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>>107761296

hey faggot the gpu and cpu section have been adjusted multiple times now to a new version and you keep reverting it. this is a community lead OP. no one cares you think the 9800X3D is bad value and calling 9070 xt and 5070 ti 4K cards with no disclaimer is misleading. you don't have a monopoly on the OP stop reverting changes people make nigger

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How bad would 16GB of RAM fuck me with a current GPU with 16GB of VRAM? (I will close all my tabs)

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>>107764257
>RTX 5070 ti Super 24gb
>RTX 5080 ti 32gb

Waitfags won. Vramlet RTX 5070/5080 lost ahahahahahahaha

TOTAL
BUYFAGS
DEATH

>>107764292
Intel, you might have some issues with demanding games. But still probably OK. On an AMD x3d, you're good. The large L3 cache makes reliance upon system ram less of an issue.

>>107764296
Yeah, sure pal. And the Sugar Plumb Express will hand-deliver one to you for $600 and $700 respectively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ISJm2O4jw

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anyone else put their uncrustables inside their pc so it can thaw faster?

>>107764305
So all the crap that's in the VRAM doesn't necessarily block space in the normal system RAM too and gets loaded straight from the SSD?

>>107764292
>(I will close all my tabs)
In general you're fine

>>107764338
More of a case that CPUs with large L3 cache can process instructions locally without needing to go to system ram as much.

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I have two options

wait for the PG27UCWM and consoom it (will never price drop due to being asus, will increase in price due to announced price hikes from asus)
or buy a G5 55" and ride off into the sunset (will cost same or less AND look superior)

>>107764325
>uncrustables
their what??

>>107764292
just buy 2 extra sticks if on ddr4
if on ddr5 and boughted 16gb ddr5 ram... its over

its such bullshit that you cant use the same ram,
so i have 32 gb of ram now
i want more ram in the future
i hsve 4 fucking ram slots on mb
you're telling me i cant just go out and but two mor e 16gb rams
it's bad enough i can't buy two 32gb RAM addon
but I have to basically throw away the 32 i already have if i want to upgrade? dumb

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>>107764364

>>107764284
silence troon

Yeah, PC market for mass consumers is dead.

>200€ for 2 TB SSD

It's gone.

I hope the gayming industry fucking implodes.

My RAM that I got for $360 3 weeks ago at microcenter is going for $750-900 today

Might've gotten fucked compared to early/mid 2025 pricing, but at least I didn't get fucked fully.

>>107764379
I...I think I would just avoid them all together.

>>107764375
on ddr4 its fine
ddr5 yeah sell it and buy a new kit unless you wanna run slow speeds

>>107764399
>consooming for consoomers is ded
nothings gonna happen

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>>107764257


>Buy expensive GPU
>Play Dave the Diver, ViewFinder, Hollow Knight, Dead Cells, etc

Why the hell i bought a GPU

>>107764379
This is what 5.25" storage trays are for.

>>107764403
The waitfags are all on suicide watch now. I grabbed 32gb 6000 CL30 for $206 at the beginning of the crisis. It's like $400 now.

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Looking for some input on the housefire 12v hpwr cables.
So my old mobo and psu setup, the 12v rail averaged a touch over 12 volts, and under load would dip down to 11.8 for the HVPWR, this new bobo does not have an explicit PCIe 12v sensor, but I'm assuming the 12v sensor should be accurate enough. As this new mobo has more power requirements, I'm wondering if my PSU is having a harder time spreading across this many cables, hence the initial voltage on the 12V being 11.9ish. Given that, should I be worried about the 11.7ish volts on the 12VHPWR sensors, since the "droop" is not as severe, as the initial voltage is lower?
It was my understanding that the melting cable does not specifically come from lower voltages, but instead comes from a substantial voltage loss due to resistance of a failing/incorrectly plugged in cable?

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>>107764405
your loss

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>>107764423
>>107764379
Forgot pic

>>107764296
>RTX 5080 ti 32gb
why would they shoot themselves in the foot like that?

>>107764438
Won't happen. Nvidia isn't even supplying vram with their chips now. Board partners were told, officially, "Go fish".

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i spend everyday reading about monitors becsue the wait for this piece of shit is unbearable. I'm hoping to come across something that will free me from waiting for this shit
monitor companies are fucking gay
this things has been out for like 2 months already everywhere in the world and its "out" in the us but i can't even tell because even though i search about it daily no one else is mentioning how unavailable it is so it honestly feels like i'm just not in the know and im on the wrong page or something, or americans just dont want this monitor or theyre able to get it from somewhere else i don't even know

My only hope is that it's so unavailable because they are busy fixing all the grey banding issues, so that byt the time it's actually available that is a thing of the past.
I think gigbyte was supposed to release this since like septemeber too or earlier, wtf is going on i need a fucking monitor already

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>>107764426
eu side 32gb 6000c30 is 600$ 64gb is 900$ if you wanna buy in stock from a retailer
the only way to get good priced ram is to wait until summer shipments for mystery ram from amazon from random brands that may or may not be fulfilled

>>107764426
I admit, I panic bought and when I found that RAM kit at microcenter for the price it was (probably should've been $480-550) I couldn't hold out any longer.

I was trying to wait for next gen intel or next gen Ryzen in 2026, instead I panicked on a 9800X3D, 2x24GB DDR5, and a 4TB NVMe drive and 22TB HDD.

Every component except the motherboard and CPU have gone up, the RAM by basically double, the NVMe drive by $40-100, the HDD by $50-100, and I expect the storage to go up further in 2026 along with the RAM continuing to rise.

>>107764296
they're going to cost 2 and 3k if they do that

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>>107764436
I used to hide my airheads in there

>>107764469
It's like conspiracy theories- the difference between those and fact are 6 months. Panic buying is now "shrewd purchase" 6 months later.

>>107764357
>will increase in price due to announced price hikes from asus
Those are only for ram related shit.

>>107764459
Why not 4k?

>>107764416
>nothings gonna happen

Nah, this meme does not apply anymore.
PC is now a niche market, and it will of course influence the console gaming market as well heavily.

>>107764257
Why are only AIO coolers recommended, wtf?

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>>107764257
The PC I built in February of 2024 for $1500 is now worth nearly $3000. Not really how I wanted to get a $3000 PC but whatever.

>>107764522
OP is personally editing things despite community agreement.

>>107764459
save up and buy a true rgb stripe subpixel 4k day 1
soon enough

>>107764502
I mean it's asus so it's astronomical anyway but yeah

>>107764518
nothings finna happen
another wave of price hikes
people will cope, people will seeth
nothing ever changes

>>107764540
One of mine went from $1530 to $2500. Crazy days.

>>107764538
I can dig myself out of this miserable situation by one simple tactic... earning more money
I will only need to remind myself of this fact

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>bought 5080
My bro wants to give me his 13600k since he upgraded but I heard online its better to get the 9800x3D for 4k high fps gaming.
Is this true? Haven't bought the MB yet so I am tempted to get the Ryzen CPU. I have the money

>>107764550
The easiest way to earn more money is to spend less. Seriously, everyone can cut their spending some and have extra cash.

>>107764522
Noctua, A720 or Thermalright if you can handle the buzzing/rattling

>>107764569
The answer is always nvidia.

>>107764569
At 1080p it makes a big difference. At 1440p, it makes some difference. At 4K it makes no difference. As resolution increases, the bottleneck shifts to the GPU.

>>107764512
theres no 4k 27 tandem woled
i guess there will be see >>107764357
but I can't wait long enough for that and it will probably be very expensive, 4k 27 inch of the same quality QD is already over 1k, i feel like this might be approaching 1500

To be honest, I saw there was a deal a few days ago for this
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1q1f24c/monitor_giabyte_4k_qd_tandem_glossy_oled_display/

$649 for a 4k QD-OLED
The glossy might be a problem for me, but I might have taken the chance on it if I saw the deal, that is only $50 more than the 4th gen tandem 1440p WOLED.

all i have rn is 32 samsung 2013 tv, i dont have a monitor

>>107764538
bro is that a jet engine?

>>107764569
>4k high fps gaming.
You're not going to be consistently seeing massive differences between a midrange and high end processor when you're gpu bound.

>>107764589
Can't you get a 32" 4k? There are some fairly cheap options.

>>107764569
13600k is 30% slower than 9800x3d in gaming but only when cpu bound. if you're playing at 4k you're gpu bound instead.

Buildies, I found this pre-built on newegg
https://www.newegg.com/avgpc-blizzard-gaming-desktop-pcs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-amd-ryzen-7-9700x-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-av-ww-r7-5070ti-b-black/p/3D5-002N-000D4

Your thoughts? 5070ti and an ASRock motherboard seems decadent for a grab-bag prebuilt.

>>107764668
These random prebuilts from non big companies always have QC issues because they hotswap parts without testing. For instance they throw a 5070ti in a Mobo with ancient bios that has problems with PCIE5. Normie is going to return it because it doesn't POST.

What is a good desk depth for 27" monitors?

I have a 24" depth desk currently for my 24" monitors. Should I go with 30"?

>>107764716
Ah that explains the reviews. Would buying something like this and putting in a known-good Mobo like an MSI B650 be worth it or would it be better just to buy the parts individually at this point? only asking because parts are crazy right now and I don't know which is or isn't good enough to pull.

>>107764573
>The easiest way to earn more money is to spend less
this doesn't work if you have an income problem
this is literally the worst way, it's no way
do you tell dead end third worlders to spend less money too? you will never escape the pits of hell
you have nothing to save
niggas who say just spend less have never been terminally broke

>>107764589
qdoled is a gamble, way more prone to give eye strain/headache/vomiting/nausea than anything
if you can cope - you win
if not - back to woled

>>107764865
32" is a basich bitch desk depth isnt that available
27" placed 3" back should be the same size as 24" or some shit like that

>>107764538
I never thought I'd see the day when electronics became an actual investment. Nice build by the way.

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Why there arent any 2K OLED ???????

>>107764942
fucking cardboxes cards are investments, digital coins that don't even exist and some fucking pngs at some point lmao
if anything electronics makes way more sense

>>107764573
no no
i've learned this the hard way
i fell for the you get rich by being a miser meme
no, people get rich and make money by making money not avoiding spending it.
That's why niggas like gabe newell can spend a trillion a year on frivolous yachts and garbage because they make a ton of money.
saving is actually very secondary to making more money. Of course, I'm not saying to OVERspend, but being ultimate saver with no little income is pointless, the energy spent saving will always be better put to use making more

>>107764569
13600k is fantastic for free. LGA 1700 MB are cheap now.

>>107764296
in how many hours is the nvidia ces show?

>>107764873
Its probably an okay purchase if you know what you're doing but most normies dont they see debug led and freak out

>>107764953
you referring to 1080p?
just buy a 1440p or 4k one and either use custom res mode 24" size and you will get an above 1080p setting or use alt mode 480hz
they already exist
no, nobody is gonna make a 1080p native panel, that shit is for cucks

>>107764957
that's what I said
the Js are preventing me from flipping burgers
it's all so tiring
I would have already made my 5090 + 128gb ram build
but now I have to suffer

bought a second nvme ssd and from the looks of things my gpu's blocking that second slot completely. will i need a heatsink in that case or is it fine naked?

>>107765026
Put a heatsink on it or its getting cooked

>>107765026
Nah, worst case it'll throttle, which won't happen unless you write absurd amounts of data on it very quickly.

Any recommendations on an easy to clean mouse pad? My current one is gross. I've seen hard mouse pads, are those good?

>>107764955
>if anything electronics makes way more sense
Only in this moment in history. Advancement has stagnated and scarcity is high. Traditionally the next best thing makes the last gen obsolete. We are far past that. Even 3090s are hanging on to value.

>>107765042
3m precise mouse pads

>>107765039

The controller will throttle but the pmic will die

>>107765079
From what? In normal use the thing sits around at basically idle load

>>107765109
It sits right behind the GPU which gets 300-400w of heat blown on it.

>>107765134
300-400 w of heat in the form of ~45°C air

>>107765042
just wash with soap and let it try
glass pad you have to use an armsleeve like an esportsphag
plasticpads? do they exist anymore? they are just densely woven clothpads now
idk
just wash the shit man

>>107764296
they arent announcing shit

>>107764895
>do you tell dead end third worlders to spend less money too?
They should not be building a PC.

>>107764957
>people get rich and make money by making money not avoiding spending it.
Wealthy people spend wisely and invest the rest. They don't buy PC parts on a credit card with 30% interest, so they can upgrade from a 4060 to a 5060.

Do I need to use one of those fancy space age thermalpads for my CPU now, or is thermal paste fine? I can only find random chinese ones in my country's stores, no clue if those work.

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Should I buy another case? This is the one I bought. It's small but wiring management is a bitch.

>>107764957
bro's comparing buying a graphic card to a fucking yacht
touch grass

>everyone shills AYYYYYYY. M.D.
>few mention the insanely long post times on Zen 5 for things like "memory training' whatever the fuck that is.
Think this is the last time I let 4chan influence my buying decision, never had this shit with Intel. Literally minute and a half POST/reboot times. Not into my OS, I'm not a retarded cavefaggot luddite like some niggers are, I'm talking about rebooting and entering the BIOS not even Winblows. Once the POST/memory training is done everything else loads up fast but the total cold boot time is insufferably bad.

I'm totally at a loss for words. Never have I ever encountered such a retarded out of box state on a previous PC build. This is insanity. Is this what late stage enshittification looks like? I assume I can go nuts and tweak 30 fucking things to try and speed this up, but wow. What a miserable default. I'm not even running meme RAM speeds or anything. Not even using 4 DIMMs.


Guys, just keep your old PC.
Being a few generations old is fine.
Zen 5/DDR5 clearly ain't it.

>>107765425
You're doing something wrong, or something in the PC is wrong. 9800x3d/4080 Super and my boot times, cold, are like 20 seconds.

Failing to identify the issue, you can always go into bios and enable fastboot. That skips memory training. But, I suspect something else is going on.

>>107765425
If you'd like, I can offer some suggestions that can help speed things up. Unless you were only here for one post to vent.

Just put a Powercolor Reaper 9070xt in my living room PC. Seems to be running great. Question though - when I boot, after selecting my OS in GRUB, after loading the initramfs, there is a flash of red/green/blue. Its only for a second. Is this anything to be concerned about? Temps are fine, FPS are fine. I have the latest stable arch kernel and latest mesa. Just didn't happen with my 6700xt.

>>107765601
thats the driver loading in before the desktop is ready. probably has to do with load order of your compositor. its nothing to worry about if everything works. on windows it would be a black screen until it loads the basic display driver or real driver.

>>107765601
Did you completely remove the old drivers? Can you get DDU up and running? Do that after you download the latest drivers. Run DDU and load the new driver with internet disabled.

The 9070 XT is still the best card on the market. Stop being jewed by Nvidia

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>>107765425
>he found out

>>107765647
Define best.

>>107765649
>Microsoft Edge
You're dismissed.

>>107765425
enable memory context restore in OC/AI tweaker
>>107765601
doesn't happen for me
>>107765640
bot post

Is there a good atx case that doesn't have a glass panel?

>>107764257
>Silent King
>12 fans

>>107765691
>enable memory context restore in OC/AI tweaker
Getting way ahead of things. First step is checking for a dead CMOS battery. He already said he didn't enable EXPO or anything, so he wouldn't know if it's starting bios fresh each time... with an initial memory train. Next would be to update bios. Early AM5 motherboards were notoriously long to post, which has been addressed. But, your suggestion would be next on the list.

>>107765709
North has a mesh side option. Though the gayness can still shine trough.

>>107765724
>Early AM5 motherboards were notoriously long to post
because they didn't enable memory context restore by default

>>107765739
Yes, in part, but there were other optimizations.

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This is 95% of retards who screams poorfags to everyone on 4chan

>>107765751
You keep posting that. How far in debt ARE you?

>>107765760
No Debts. Literally Zero. I dont even have credit cards like Visaar and Masturbatecard. Only Paid in Cash

>>107765760
it's fine, he can pay later

>>107765768
But it's my gpu and I want to pay NOW

>>107765766
Heh, I was like you. I was so proud of being debt-free for years. Then I went to buy a car. I must have great credit since everything's on autopay!
>You don't have bad credit, you have no credit
Paying on time doesn't help you, but paying late hurts you. Oops. Now I have 2 cards which I use all the time. Bigger purchases, I take the 0% interest option. Everything else, I pay off right away and take the free perks. Just buying a monitor on Amazon got my $80 in Amazon Super Fun Bucks. And, the 0% interest stuff, I generally pay off in 4 months instead of a year. My credit now is excellent. When it comes time for a mortgage, I'm set.

>>107765751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es

>>107765804
>mortgage
>credit

Did people really cant do good old savings anymore ?? Aka put a coin in the basket until its full and buy what you want ? Because thats how i bought my house.

>>107765804
Why bought a car you dummy. Buy a bike instead. Or better, use your feet

>>107765830
Do you have any photos of this basket?

>>107765830
I could pay cash, but that's retirement fund money. Once it goes in, it never leaves. And if you're making 10+% a year, paying even 6% on a mortgage means you're still making money. And rates are going down. When I can get a 4% note, then I'll buy.

>>107765849
Too lazy to get outside and post my national bank

>>107765830
yeah that isn't really how it works anymore gramps, prices are much higher and compensation is much lower than ever. The current meta behind housing prices is how many indians you can get to split rent in a 2 bedroom house. Currently it's around 40.

>>107765842
Let's see... 30 minute drive to work. Average 150" a year in snow. No, I think I'll drive. Plus, don't you like to travel at all??

>>107765869
Oh i forgot this is american website.
Breed a horse then.

>>107765882
What a great idea. Take a horse from NY to North Carolina. Why have I never thought of this.

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If you wanna resolve all the detail of 4k a 55" tv is peak gaming since you need 3,5-4feet distance to resolve the detail
rendering 4k on 27"/32" you will have a hard time resolving all the detail, text will look ridiculously better up close and less aliasing and all that shit yes, but for content and gaymen you will actually have a hard time resolving detail
did TVs unironically win?

55" is not a tv size, in fact, a monitor size, unless you are a boomer that watches low res upscaled slop
to go for a tv and 4k, you need to get giant fuck huger, how far away do you wanna sit?

thoughts and opinions of my late night realizations?

>>107765898
120 years ago people can do that

>>107764257
>>107764264
OP is a massive fag, recommendations had been fixed

I'm a retard and I don't have a screw that fits for a new M2 SSD. What size screw do I need? I can't find a concrete answer on what I need on Amazon. Will this work? https://www.amazon.com/SGTKJSJS-M-2-Screw-NVMe-Mounting/dp/B07Q3DLCJ4

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Still use my old Cooler Master case from 16 years ago and dont plan to change it probably for the next 60 years until i die

>>107765930
My case is coming up on 11 years old and it's showing its age.

No USB-C front panel, still has 5.25" bays, and tons of HDD space. Airflow layout is okay but not amazing.

>>107765904
120 years ago, people would have taken a train.

>>107765910
It should have come with your motherboard. Lose them or toss them?

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>>107765944
>still has 5.25" bays, and tons of HDD space
thats exactly why I'm never ever ever going to change my Antec case, it actually has the space for everything

>>107765902
nice markov chain tier spam nicotroon, it almost made sense

>>107765960
I lost them unfortunately, I thought I knew where they were but no luck. Will the ones I linked work? I heard that it's really specific to motherboards, I'm pretty sure I'm using a B760 or something similar.

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>buy loadsa RAM and SSDs on Pay in 4/Pay Later
>sell those SSDs and RAM at a small profit
>money in bank account to buy more RAM and SSDs with Pay Later
Perpetual profit machine.

>>107766027
Find your exact motherboard, go to the manufacturer site and look at the user manual. It should be listed.

>>107766036
What a genius idea. Now go get a huge loan and play the stock market. Buy Carnival Cruise stock. I have a good feeling about them.

>>107766068
If you only invested in NVIDIA 5 years ago Jensen would have given you a free 5090.

so is pc building really going to be dead soon?

>>107766144
no

>>107766155
so nigvidia is going to continue making reasonable priced for consoomers?

>>107766136
I don't have a ton, but I have like 65 shares of Nvidia. I have a lot more Apple stock. Not huge growth, but steady growth. I bought 10 shares of Micron stock at $200 and it's $315 now. I might sell half tomorrow.

>>107766163
shut UP

>>107766163
I just went to the store and bought some reasonable priced.

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>5070ti I wanted to buy is sold out now that I finally have money
I'm actually so fucking pissed off, why can't I just ONCE have something I actually want without having to compromise and get a shittier model? Now my only options are fucking MSI, Gigabyte or PNY and none of them have the features the ASUS Prime has. And I'm not paying an extra $300 CAD for one with those features.
I feel like killing myself. I should've bought it yesterday.

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>>107766210
sorry little bro

>>107766210
5070ti super with 24gb will be announced tomorrow at CES

>>107766210
Chin up anon, sadly the entire hobby is about compromise.
You wind up being throttled by your ram or your GPU or your CPU, it's always something. In your case I would grab the MSI or gigabyte and lock the fuck in because we're just going to see more sold out shit

>>107766216
I was going to get it from BestBuy because I just had a 2TB HDD arrive from Amazon in a fucked up box because the subhuman jeets who transport packages are, well, subhuman jeets. I absolutely do not trust Goymazon to deliver me a $1000 package in one piece. At least with BestBuy I could pick it up at the store.

>>107766225
holy cope. thats not happening

>>107766230
meh doesnt matter. Amazon will give me a full refund if i get a brick instead of a gpu. im not emotional about it

>>107766225
I can already barely afford the 5070ti, I wouldn't be able to afford a Super version unless it was like $200 more (and they wouldn't sell something with more VRAM than the 5080 for less than the 5080).

>>107764296
>$2000 RTX 5080 Super

No thanks

>>107766225
Nvidia stopped supplying vram with their chips. Do you really think board partners are going to scrounge up 24gb of DDR7 for a 5070?

>>107766225
a 24gb card wont be announced for the next 2 years

>>107766225
lol xd

>>107766231
>>107766246
>>107766249
It will happen and the seethe from Buyfags will be delicious. Finally i have my revenge

>>107766263
What colour is the sky in your world?

>>107766263
It's more likely you will be waiting, again, for something that will never come. Affordability is dead.

>>107766263
won’t happen dumbass

last thread was unanimous in telling me me I should absolutely panic-buy this pre-built

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-gaming-desktop-pcs-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2-tb-nvme-ssd-ssd-st-prism4-1796-b-al-black/p/3D5-000Z-002F0?Item=3D5-000Z-002F0

After comparing it on partpicker I came up with this build that has a better motherboard:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ny7kkf
For pretty much the same price. Am I misunderstanding something, and how does this list look?

>>107766225
>>107766263
The hilarious thing is, on the remote possibility Nvidia DID solve the memory crisis and DID announce it, this goofball still wouldn't buy. He'll find some excuse why he's not buying a $1750 5070.

>>107766226
>In your case I would grab the MSI or gigabyte and lock the fuck in because we're just going to see more sold out shit
I keep reading that the Ventus is a piece of shit with a shit cooler and bad hotspots. I don't want to spend $1k on something that's going to burn itself out in 5 years. And apparently the "thermal gel" on Windforce cards leaks.
And neither of them have a dual BIOS or a clock as high as the Prime.

How can I make a formal bet with this anon

>>107766271
>>107766278
>>107766280
>>107766297

TOTAL BUYFAGS DEATH
I WON
SCREENCAP THIS POST
5070 TI SUPER 24 GB WILL ONLY $50 MORE EXPENSIVE THAN 5070 TI 16 GB

I'm looking to upgrade from a 3060ti to a 5070 for 1440p gaming for games like Total Warhammer 3 and Monster Hunter Wilds, will this be a large performance boost?

>>107766309
I'm enough of an oldfag to remember when 4chan trolls actually put in the effort.

>>107766309
8GB of VRAM alone costs more than $50 you fucking retard.

>>107766287
That looks fine. I don't the the prebuilt was that good a deal, but I was looking at prices from a few weeks ago.

>>107766316
It should be. And Warhammer does NOT play nice with Radeon cards. So, Nvidia is the right call.

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>>107766309
based. it’s happening

>>107766323
That's fair. I'm still on the fence if I should upgrade this rig (It's a 5600X ) or just beef up the graphics card and call it a day.

>>107766337
AI slop

>>107766341
Yea those Alienware 5080 prebuilts went up almost a $1000 since two weeks ago. I think the ship sailed.

>>107766301
The number of shitposts from people who don't actually have a ventus is infinitely higher than those who do.
Gigabyte can have issues too, but I personally consider both of them more reliable than PNY.
Going back to the point of compromises, these things are consumables, treat it well, repaste it if you need to down the line and go from there.
If you were planning on penny pinching this much and are worried about a card burning out, you never should run it at a higher clock or consider/worry about bios flashing.


I'm adding these newlines for emphasis.


If you only pay attention to one thing, please let it be this:
None of these prices are going to improve. Maybe there is a chance that the card you want will come back in stock for a couple hours, but you can't guarantee you will be in a time and a place where you can even buy it. If your goal is to actually upgrade to something you are going to have to compromise and I can tell you with great certainty the compromises are going to get worse and worse the longer you delay given the current situation.

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>>107764296
Lmao not a chance in hell.

https://youtu.be/juJNnZbQW9g

>>107766369
even for RAM? should I just cough for 350$ for two sticks of 16g ddr5 rn??

>>107766382
Best Buy has 2x16 Crucial 6400 CL38 for $293. Not ideal latency, but the price is good and... they have it.

>>107766369
With my luck, if I ever have to repaste it, I'll brick it instantly. Which is another reason why I wanted the Prime because it has thermal pads instead.
But I guess I have no choice at this point. Gigabyte Windforce SFF or MSI Ventus 3X OC Black?

>>107764399
I bit the bullet and bought a $160 ish 1TB samsung 990 pro now in case my computer OS drive suddenly failed in the year 2028 when it would then go for $1299 per 1TB. Buy what you think you will need today and insure yourself.

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>>107764431
Make sure you leave enough straight clearance on both sides of the 12V-2x6 cable (minimum 30mm) before you bend it sideways.

Anyone know if a usb-c to HDMI2.1 actually works to run 4k120+ from a usb-c dp1.2/dp1.4 port on a tv?
Considering if it will run dsc anyway
Sounds insane it it would work

>>107766316
>Total Warhammer 3
yes if your cpu is good
>Monster Hunter Wilds
no nothing is

>>107766352
What a shame.
So just upgrade to a 5070 TI and let the wind blow in the meantime?

>>107766412
For whatever it's worth I have a 5090 ventus coming in the next week or two, partly because that's all I could find at vaguely MSRP, but also after looking into the cooling concerns they didn't seem super well-founded.
As far as which I have had gigabyte cards before this, I would maybe edge them out slightly but I'm not super familiar with the leaking issues, I would see if any other anons chime in, or alternatively focus on which has better warranty, something I have personally had issues with gigabyte on in the past.

>>107766301
Gigabyte thermal goo issues are overblown. It actually works really well and keeps the components cool. It's only an issue if you got a card from launch month and are using it in a vertical mount position
The Ventus complaints are justified. MSI cheaper out on the number of heat pipes on the Ventus and it resulted in a card that needs to run it's fans near max rpms to keep it just under the throttling point. Just check out techpowerup's 5070ti ventus review if you doubt me

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>>107764460
>open up mystery RAM box
>it's all 4GB ram DDR3
>none of them work

>>107766392
Just checked, sold out, sadly.

>>107766441
tldr; if it depends on the USB port.

My motherboard for example limits video output over the USB-C ports to 4k60hz, even though there is technically enough bandwidth to allow 4k120hz with DSC. But not all motherboards limit you, so it would just depend on the device that is supplying the USB-C alternate mode connection.

But theoretically, if you had a USB-C to HDMI 2.1 active adapter and your USB-C port supports the proper output resolution/frame rate, there is no reason it wouldn't work.

is Formd T1 the most reddit case?
The “people” in the sff discord are incredibly pretentious

>>107766475
Well, that sucks. It literally sold out within the last couple hours.

>>107766463
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/testing-a-cooler-of-a-cheap-rtx-5090-msi-ventus-oc.339317/
>5090 ventus
>5 heatpipes
holy shit lmao other vendors put 7 pipes on a 5070 ti and they think 5 is fine on a GPU with double the TDP.

>>107766461
I guess. I don't have a good answer. If you find a decent deal on one it cant hurt to buy one and try. They won't get cheaper anytime soon.

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>RTX 5090 gpu
>Top tier ryzen cpu
>OS : Linux

Why retards do this

>>107766531
Why would it bother you?

>>107766522
Got it. I was going to just buy at MSRP because I'm worried about them going up, unless that's just an unfounded concern

JUHOR chinkram looking more viable by the day

>>107766549
>JUHOR
It's at least innovative. Imagine the R&D in creating ram with built-in spyware.

>>107766463
>>107766471
Looking into it more apparently Gigabyte PCBs have cracked at the PCIE mount. Though at least I don't have to worry about the thermal gel leaking because I have no plans to mount it (or any GPU) vertically, ever.

Is DDR4 still viable? asking because it seems so much cheaper to upgrade to the best DDR4 build I can get, I have plenty of DDR4 RAM in my old build, and AFAIK all of the new graphics cards are still compatible. It's just a CPU bottleneck at this point.

>>107766514
Yeah that was one of the posts I read before I bought.
Anyone posting that they "feel" the temps are bad deserves the bullying the following replies provided.
If it's super bad and kills the card, I'll get a warranty replacement. Realistically, if that does not happen in the first 3 years I'll be fine.

>>107766545
>I was going to just buy at MSRP because I'm worried about them going up
I seriously doubt prices will go down. If you were thinking of buying now is the time.

>>107766562
Although I'm not going to say Gigabyte is in no part responsible, I am pretty sure it's mostly heavy cards installed without a support bracket.

>>107766562
I have a gigabyte 5080 and 5090. I have no issues.

>>107766505
>rectangle case
>pretentious AF font for logo
>truncated English as company name
yeah

>be in florida
>order gpu from newegg
>it's coming all the way from fucking ontario
>estimated eta friday at earliest
man....

>>107766611
I feel your pain. I saw a keyboard I liked, on sale, and it said "pick up in 1 hour". I pulled the trigger and awaited the text that it was ready. When the text did not arrive, it now said.. arriving Friday. Sigh.

>>107766581
>>107766591
Gonna go with that one then

>>107766514
It's impressive that they managed to make a 3 slot card that sounds and feels like it has a 2 slot cooler
>>107766562
That was 100% an issue with early production 4080 and 4090s because of the pcie slot area cutout they did. They have since fixed it with late batch 4080/90s and their rtx5000 cards aren't affected

5070 12gb or 5060 ti 16gb? Can't afford 5070 ti sadly.
I don't think 12gb vram is gonna be that much of an issue for 2k if I am not really care about playing at highest textures or something.

>>107766630
Good luck anon, I really hope that this is all a ruse and prices drop, but I just don't see it happening, Best we can do is get what we can while we can

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>>107766568
yes
and it's not like you have a choice anyway
get the best DDR4 kit you have and overclock it as hard as you can

>>107766640
3060 and 5070 are too popular not to support for the long term.

"Hi, welcome to CES! I want to first address the people who say Nvidia have abandoned gamers. It's NOT TRUE! Today, I am announcing the RTX2 5045 ti Super! It will double the fps of the 5090!! For $1000, you will have access to our new AI cloud ram subscription. With one low monthly donation, you can leverage 24gb of super fast HBM memory!! And this card will have DLSS-AI that quintuples frame rate! And, remember, at $1000, the more you buy, the more you save! DO YOU LIKE MY JACKET??"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ISJm2O4jw

>>107766670
AMD will have all the same but shitter features for $950.

>>107766687
But, not the jacket. And, THAT is the difference.

How much do you think I could get for an EVGA 2080 Super? Only one fan spins on newer Nvidia drivers but all three still work on drivers from 2024. Other than that the card is in good shape.

>>107766706
don’t pay over $150

>>107766652
is non-ti 5070 actually popular? I remember people were shitting on it hard due to low vram

>>107766717
I think he is selling.

>>107766717
I'm asking how much I could sell it for

>>107766729
no its shit and will be outdated in less than a year from now

>>107766740
This guy thinks there will be new cards and higher spec games in less than a year from now.

>>107766746
found the vramlet 5070 owner lmao

>>107766753
Still no 24gb 5070 ti Super announcement tomorrow, Skippy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ISJm2O4jw

>>107766568
honestly feel like i coulda rode out my 5700X a little while longer had i not sold that particular build last year. you'll be fine on AM4

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>>107766225

looking forward to nvidia announcing a 12gb 5080

>>107766729
5070 has the highest install base out of all RTX 50 series cards according to the Steam Hardware Survey.

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>>107766740

>>107766788
this desu. either skip this gen or get a card starting from 5070 ti and up

>>107764296
if it happens then here is the problem:
- excuse will be made to increase price due to ram shortage
- price increase will be around $370 (american) for base models

prices will not go down
therefore not worth buying
therefore you have to wait until they get sold as used

>>107766778
VRAM-less 50 series with cloud ram.

My FAST RAM comes tomorrow and then I can finally post how cool I am to other anons...

>>107766830
>wait until they get sold as used
Like the $550 used 5800x3d CPUs?

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Why AMD cant just put a RAM or SSD slot on their GPU ? Thats gonna beat NVIDIA

>>107766832
Are we going to see a resurgence of "50 hours FREE" CDs like the old AOL days?

>>107766861
AMD will never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

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>some of the gpus on amazon aren't even available any by amazon
Okay I just need to make to get one asap. So vote!
9070xt
or
5070Ti

>>107766878
How badly do you need good ray tracing? That is your only question.

>>107766878
5070ti is better especially if you like raytracing (but even if you dont, its still better)

>>107766878
I'd take a 5070 over a 9070XT just due to DLSS, let alone a 5070Ti.

>>107766867
Add dial-up modem noises as login sound.

>>107766640
>5070
>sub 16GB VRAM
This is a crime against humanity.

>>107765425
People do mention them AMDrones just shout louder
It's Intel's own fault for losing so much trust with their oxidation/microcode shenanigans
Arrow Lake's disaster launch didn't help either
All you can do is sit back and wait for Nova Lake now, intelboomers are never going to be satisfied with AMD CPU eccentricities.

> Is this what late stage enshittification looks like?
AMD's always been like this for decades. But the people on it will help to deal with some of those issues. s

Have the paradigms changed for anyone else lately?
I used to buy middle grade hardware and try and overclock/push the limits to the extreme, but now I instead buy high-end hardware and under clock/undervolt to closer performance of a step or two down, but add substantially lower temperatures and energy.

>>107766898
Welcome! You've got RAM!

>>107766878
5070Ti for all purpose card

>>107766848
that is different, if used they will sell in low quant (by retards upgrading to 6000), yet bulk sells two-three years later

and by that time 6000 will have standard of min16 avg 24 and 80+90 at 32gb

>>107764573
Money now has more value than it does later.

>>107766928
>80+90 at 32gb
Can you explain what you mean here I'm not sure I'm following

>>107766928
I just believe the 60-series will be on indefinite hold.

Oh yeah! I've been saying for a few months the Gabe Cube will launch at $1400. I'm leaning to that being delayed, too.

>>107766938
All the more reason to spend it wisely now. And not on a new phone, fast food, and other crap you don't need.

Kill yourselves

>>107766955
Found the waitfag

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360hz 34" ultrawide or 240hz 4k 27"?

5080 gpu

fuck the new captcha btw. When does 4chanx get updated to support it?

I regret not upgrading to DDR5 when I had the chance. Now I'm stuck with DDR4 for who knows how long.

>>107766963
theres the new qd oled panel type announced around ces
just buy that

>>107766966
>just buy that when it's launched in June
ftfy

>>107766980
oled panels had 5 years of "text clarity = baad" complaints and its finally fixed
it'd be retarded to buy anything else now

I could get 32gb ddr5 4800 for $323.
should I do it?

>>107766989
Historically, any next-gen cutting edge tech announced at CES has a significant lag time until launch.

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>>107766980
>Just buy that after the bugs are fixed around Black Friday 2026
You're field testing these brand new hardware for the manufacturers if you buy them before the major fixes.

>>107766878
5070ti

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Is my RAM pretty bwos?

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>>107767010

>>107766992
That's a bit slow, what's the use case

>>107767010
Did you get the same bundle on Newegg I did anon?
I couldn't get mine stable at 7200 curious what you can do

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>>107767051
>Did you get the same bundle on Newegg I did anon?
Sure did.
>curious what you can do
Hard to say, but I'll know for sure once I have a CPU, storage, and a PSU.

>>107767041
1080p gaming with 9800x3d and 5080

are there other hidden budget gaming rigs like the AMD BC-250 APU? people have been converting them to steam boxes

man that was cheap before youtubers started showing it off but i didn't even know about it before so it's a catch-22...

>>107767080
Just random prebuilts?
Anything that wasn't supported by w11 was getting really cheap last I checked. Like I remember being able to get something with a 4770 and a random quardro for like $40

>>107766878
Are gaytracing and AI shit worth an extra $200 to you? 5070ti if yes, 9070xt if no.

>>107766649
>>107766768
Thanks guys, maybe I'll just do this and hold out for the next 5-8 years if I have to. Only real thing I would need is a new GPU.

Even if now may be one of the worst possible times to upgrade RAM, what is the best current option for 64GB of DDR4 on a slightly aging motherboard? I can't go with anything better but I also don't think I'll be able to survive on my current 32GB for the next few years until I can do a proper full new build.

Is 3060 Ti still good?
Was 3060 Ti ever good?

>>107767138
See what's available on the used market, 3200 cl14 or 3600 cl16 is best for zen 3. What do you need the 64gb for anyway? 32gb is still perfectly fine desu.

>>107767072
lmao that pic describes how I felt buying it too. make sure to post when you get there, what CPU you planning on?
>>107767073
its suboptimal, but in this economy it's not awful.

>>107767138
any 2x32 3200+ MHz kit
4x16 might give you some issues, because those could be using 8gbit ICs and then you would be on quad rank

>>107767108
You need to get HWInfo and compare the GPU core clock vs the GPU core's effective clock to make sure your undervolting isn't causing clock stretching.
If your undervolt is too aggressive, the GPU will automatically down clock its boost frequency to run it stably.

IDK for Radeoon cards, but you don't want the difference between GPU boost clock and its effective clock to be greater than 15~20MHz for NVIDIA cards.

>>107767153
I use my machine for professional rendering/video work that is already starting to bump up on the edge of my current 32GB, and I'm worried about the next few years as the demands on my machine continue to get worse rather than better.

>>107767161
I actually already explored 4x16 as an option, and the only seller that still had my current kit in stock post-shortages was a typical Chinese scam seller that repackaged a different kit in a fake reprinted box that I'm currently getting a refund for.

>>107766878
9070 xt because radeon is the morally superior brand

>>107767150
no
never was
it's like 5070 these days

>>107767173
buying a 4x16 kit could still save you some money compared to 2x32, at least where I'm at they've generally been cheaper. Just gotta make sure it's single rank sticks for the former and dual rank sticks for the latter.

>>107767203
Fuck. What do?

>>107767194
I guess if it wasn't, it would let you know

>>107767164
i don't think radeon cards clock stretch when undervolting, they just crash
clock stretching on AMD products happen when the delivered voltage undershoots the target voltage, like if you're applying a manual VRM voltage offset on your motherboard
at least that's been my experience with the 6800 XT and 9070 XT, they either work, and perform better, or they don't
>>107767173
any 2x32 kit is honestly fine, new or used
just buy the first thing you can find for a reasonable price
RAM is durable and any IC they can put into a 2x32 kit is going to clock decently well

>>107767220
upgrade to 5070ti while you still can

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My shitty third world e-commerce site sent me a fake sata sdd, they can't assure me that I'll get all my money back once I send it back, and I also saw a youtube comment of a dude that got a fake one too, but he didn't even had to send it back and they fully refunded him
I love my nigger life hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahagahahahhahahahahaghahahahaghagahahahhagahahhahahahhahagaggagagaggaggaggahhahhahhahahahhahahahhahaha

>>107767220
5070ti super is coming, wait.

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>>107767249
i want to feel her face bones crumple under my fists

>>107767252
Too late I already bought a 5070 ti. Go on without me.

>>107767249
also just initiate a chargeback if they dont refund you
>anon is a nigger who buys anything on debit
grim if that's the case

>>107767252
that’s never coming

>>107764257
5070 ti or 9070 xt for 1440p gaming? Upgrading from 2070 super and wanna future proof relatively hard. 9070 xt is 580 from microcenter, 5070 ti is 750. I'd go for the 9070 xt if not for dlss and nvidia driver support, since 1 gen old amd cards aren't getting fsr 4, plus, so many more games have dlss compared to fsr. Reddit fags say 9070 xt

>>107767282
>Reddit fags say 9070 xt
Well obviously you do the opposite

>>107767282
5070 ti is pretty good
9070 xt is good too if you want a worser gpu for some reason

>>107767282
>>107767125

>>107767240
Guess I'll try.

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>>107767279
Yeah, I did that shit
I have 3 credit cards and still did that shit
SOMEONE KILL ME

>>107767282
>nvidia driver support
that's a plus for AMD in current year though

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I don't know how any of this fucking shit works and I'm just sitting here freaking out about stuff I don't understand but know is really bad.

>>107767328
Oh no no no njeets!

>>107767328
couldn’t find a 5070 ti for msrp?

>>107767279
>>107767303
Pretty sure the banks can still do the same thing for you.

>>107767372
Also because most the time your debit card falls under a major credit company, like Visa or Master Card, the cards are run as credit and it falls under them. Or some shit like that. I think you still have to talk to your bank though.

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>>107767372
I've got a super big their world issue tho, the platform I used to make the purchase, is associated with the e-comerse where I made the purchase
The e-comerse is called "mercado libre" and the payment platform is called "mercado pago" BIG YIKES, I DONT FEEL LIKE BUYING SHIT FROM THIS NIGGERS NO MORE

Got a 5800x3d secondhand, but it shoots up to 70C doing benign stuff like downloading games on steam. I have a massive noctua air cooler, I've re-pasted it several times and still have the same issue. My old CPU has normal temps. Wtf can cause this

>>107767404
thats why you dont buy sloppy seconds
no refunds brownbro

>>107767414
If you know a place selling new ones, please let me know

>>107767404
It's on its last legs.

>>107767404
The xd3 memory is over the ccd which insulates it and retains heat
Then amd is unlike intel and tuned their cpus boost clock behavior to maximize temps

you can disable pbo in bios if you want

>>107767404
steam uses heavy compression to shrink their downloads so third worlders can get their games faster
so that's normal

>>107767440
i'll give it a try, thanks.

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>>107767404
>air cooler

>>107767455
kek observational masterclass

>>107767404
Undervolt it
-15 on all cores to start then go up and see how stable you can get it
I have my 9800x3d at -20 for now and temps dropped from 90 to 72 in Cinebench

>>107767455
nah bro in the third world we have no data cap, that's for muricans

>>107767542
thirdie doesn't understand the difference between bandwidth and data cap
it just keeps getting funnier
they dont need to cap data when you can download full speed 24/7 and barely move any data

>>107767386
RIP to you then. I'm sure you can file some lawsuit, just ask for donations.

>>107767542
i wasn't thinking about america at all
but i have gigabit fiber so it would be better for me to get the games in uncompressed form
you don't have that, you have internet over hanging favela telephone line that goes down when it's raining

I will never use liquid cooling.
>b-b-but you get 5 degrees less heat
Watch this.
>undervolts CPU
>get the same temps and same performance without a piece of trash that will eventually break or can break open and destroy my whole PC

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>>107767563
Yup yup yuparoo
Spent 25 euros on an Arctic Freezer 36 and it keeps my 9800x3d nice and cool

>>107767386
That was just asking for trouble. Use an actual bank next time.

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>>107767575
you dont need an aio for zen 5 3d because amd finally pulled the poo and blood covered bengal tiger penis out of their indian asses and did the obvious fix that should have been implemented from the start (putting the 3d cache physically under the logic die)

make a new thread sars

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>>107767550
Not possible, no one is donating anything in the third world....
>>107767577
Lesson learned

I probably will send the thing back and consider it a win if I get 80% back of what I originally paid

Btw do any of you guys know a good sata sdd? Since I'll have to buy another one

what's up /pcbg/gers I'm back at work after the holidays so shitposting is back on the menu
nvidia good, amd bad, upboats on the left

>>107767698
What about Intel arc

>>107767675
Depends. I'd recommend something like Samsung or anything with DRAM if you plan to put an OS on it. If not you're fine with anything most major brands including PNY, SanDisk, Samsung, WD, , etc.

>>107767705
The ReBar requirement kills the ONE niche it might've had - drop-in upgrade for systems from ~2016-2018 still running a GTX 1050 Ti or something, but that had a once decent 6th or 7th gen i7 or something.

>>107767160
>what CPU you planning on
Probably a 7800X3D, since I have a buddy willing to sell me one for a reasonable price. Will sell the motherboard to recoup some of the costs...hopefully.

>>107766878
5070ti because DLSS alone makes it superior

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>>107766955
Uh oh waitfag melty