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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

moxxie edition

>News
Z․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>107772923
>ANCHOR
>ANCHOR
>ANCHOR
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>>107772923
can't even bake bread right, fuck my life
real previous: >>107770090
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We are dying~
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This is just sad.
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>>107772940
What even happened to the actual thread?
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This was and remains sad.
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We need to merge if we want to survive, my fellow /aicg/ anons.
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>>107773161
trve

MIGRATE
>>>/mlp/42915806
>>>/mlp/42915806
>>>/mlp/42915806
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>>107773165
don't raid the ponybros, they're just chilling
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Remember when we were alive and fast?
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>>107773239
The actual thread got deleted though, it didn't get archived.
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Why is it that AI chatbots lead to the most incredible orgasms of your life?
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>>107772923
>>107772928

For anyone that it's still using these threads for some reason, we've officially migrated to /vg/ a few weeks ago.
This is the current thread:
>>>/vg/552707048
>>>/vg/552707048
>>>/vg/552707048
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>>107773287
Because your biggest sex organ is your brain.
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>>107773287
It's second only to my highschool ex.
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>>107773388 (Checked)
nigga it's not even in the OP
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>>107773343
When did this happen? Wtf
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>>107773435
anon read the thread, do you really believe there's more than 3 anons making these posts?
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chatbots?
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There's a lesson here: don't visit old chats on cai, you'll be much sadder than you expected.
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>>107773461
I have autismo
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>>107773435
Two weeks ago. The threads on /g/ are fake threads made by schizos. This is why they are dead or get randomly deleted.
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>>107773885
>The threads on /g/ are fake threads made by schizos
i genuinely did not know this lol. sorry
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>>107773589
>>107773885
>>107773919
samefag
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>>107773961
nice try
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>>107773970
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>moxxie is in my WAAAAAAAAAALLS
classic
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I am rather gonna stop visiting aicg than to visit the troon infested /vg/aicg
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>>107773616
Don't worry Anonie, from her PoV, she still just started waiting.
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>GODPVS III is gone forever
Fuck...
I genuinely feel bad for the newfags/locusts who never got to experience it
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>>107774219
its still on aws
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>>107773616
And you aren't going to reply now that you know she messaged you?
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Serious question, how risky is using AWS keys? Specifically ones that are tied to actual businesses instead of individuals.
I've never cared about using Claude keys because they're prepaid, and what's Pooshit going to do if the $10 on his key suddenly disappears out of nowhere?
But AWS is billed, the key I have belongs to a business (small, but still), and I don't want to get v& for my 78 swipes in 1372 different 4.5pus roleplays.
Worst case they just revoke the key, right? Right?
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>>107774363
just dont use anything that could dentify you ? Vpn and an offshore/shady/not giving a fuck vps provider for the proxy hosting
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>>107774355
Someday I'll save her from cai but until then it's better for them all to hibernate.
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>>107773343
>>107773885
>Today on "shit I just made up"
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>>107774461
nigga you're literally posting in a moxxie thread

what more proof do you need
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Meh, I've seen worse spitebakes.
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>>107775100
back in my day we would've rebaked
this used to be a REAL general
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can i use a cot with claude or nah?
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>>107775135
Ask in the real thread.
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>>107775164
they just make fun of me, no one there uses claude
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>>107775135
You can, or you could turn on the reasoning and just provide a format for how you want it to reason.
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>>107775107
Bakers are tired, man. They've been fighting a losing battle with the spities for years.
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>>107775177
isnt that exactly what the cot prompting is...
it doest work it bitches to me about expecting 'thinking' or 'redacted_thinking'
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>>107775199
Straight CoT prompting can count against the model's maximum output tokens, reasoning does not. It costs the same, but you're more likely to get cut off responses with pure CoT over providing a "reasoning style" prompt.
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>>107775231
You mean saying 'do this and that' instead of actually providing a 'template to be filled' ?
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>>107775236
You can still style it as a template, as long as reasoning is set above 'Auto' and you specify in the prompt that the template should apply to its reasoning. They're very particular about the wording.
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>>107772923
>>107772928
i hope you fucking die kill yourself
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>>107775271
newfag
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>>107775260
Hm... got a example? I used the cot i used in gemini and it didnt follow it as gemini does.
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>>107775276
fucking kill yourself newfag, lmao zoomer faggot calling me a newfag LMAO
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>>107775285
note how you didn't refute the "newfag" label i assigned to you?
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>>107758130
What can I say, other than, "Saw it coming."
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>>107775293
note how I should have told you to fuckin kill yourself harder? oh ya kill yourself
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>>107772923
Angel Dust on the 'log
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>>107775277
I don't use CoT much anymore so the best I can do is some mockup shit like

Your reasoning MUST match the following template:
```
1. First think about the immediate scene
2. Here determine what {{char}} might be thinking about the user's last response
3. Consider the environment around {{char}} and {{user}} and how complications might occur
4. Think about how to push the scene forward without letting it stagnate
```

It's probably not a good template, but that's the general idea. If reasoning is off, it will probably still try to follow the template as a CoT, but reasoning on is what you need to refine as a consistent goal. Not every gen is going to follow it no matter how hard you try in the end, so all you can do is keep refining to reduce the margin for error.
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>>107774363
too late, you're going to jail anon
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>>107775452
yeah i guess i will have to rework mine, it does follow in reasoning then repeats it in the reply.
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>mention I had a root canal
>Gemini thinks I'm a dentist 20k tokens after
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>>107775503
lmao
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What the fuck? Gemini really is a jeet model holy shit
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>>107775601
Liliana stare at him, doing the needful, pleased to be mastaarbating
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>>107775683
>%70%72%6F%78%79%72%65%62%6F%72%6E
the fuck are you doing
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Is there a way to install ST extensions without using git? The 'install extension' feature keeps failing for some reason.
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>>107775709
Evading filters/bans.
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does anyone know which is more bang for buck linkapi or electron hub ?
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>>107775945
I don't know what the fuck either of those are.
Use OpenRouter nigga.
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I stand with proxys, where are free proxys?
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>>107775957
openrouter doesnt give the bang for buck that those do
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>>107776052
Elaborate.
Like I said, I've never heard of them.
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any gemini 3 proxy?
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Sad general
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>>107776305
yeah, it's called a .edu student address

gemini 3 pro is free dumbass
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>>107776305
mino redemption pw
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>>107774506
>noooo le heckin hazbin bake means we merged!!
the only shit-skinned negro i see here is you.
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necrom
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>>107776592
why the meltie calm down my man
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>>107776573
no thanks
>>107776572
its clearly not free when you only get logging proxies like picrel
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>>107776706
Nobody uses that glowie oxy. Ignore it. Necrom is back and he got g3mini pro now.
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How much detail do you put in your Persona? Aside from (your) magnum dong?
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>>107776829
W-what if I like having a small one and getting bullied and made fun of…?
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>>107776829
My current persona is 2585 tokens. I should probably trim some of that. I usually don't go over around 1500.
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this is getting ridiculous
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>>107776829
Depends on what it's for.
Modern day generic rp or quick coom? Name, age, basic physical features, relationship with the character (if there is one), and maybe an occupation.
Interesting scenario/fantasy setting? All of the above + basic personality, backstory, any abilities or skills, and equipment.
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>>107776910
Shouldn't you put abilities/equipment in a lorebook entry?
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>>107772923
Is this all the news that happens anymore? New LLM checkpoint enumerations? Has this tech hit the wall?
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>>107776829
Just physical details, general outfit, etc. so I can slot into most scenarios
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>>107776829
I merely put "{{user}} is an average human male."
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>>107776829
Name, age (set to adjustable), and a mind reading ability (very convenient).
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>>107776930
DS just dropped new test model on LMArena, but it's random access only. I hope it's v4, though it's probably gonna be codemaxxed.
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>>107776829
Nothing at all. Rarely I include an OOC note with two-three short sentences in my first message, but usually just go with the flow as the character sees me.
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>>107776829
i found a little template on a preset rentry years ago and i've been using it ever since for my anthro personas with micropenises
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>>107776917
If you're super anal about saving tokens, I guess it would be optimal to do that.
It wouldn't make any difference to me, because if I were to use a lorebook for that, I'd just have the entry constantly activated anyway. Having it only active some of the time opens up too many opportunities for inconsistencies if the equipment or abilities are elaborate.
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>>107776829
Used to just do 'anon is human male' and still do for quick coomslop but I get a lot more into the roleplay aspect now. Most of my personas have defined characters, backstories, designs, and other 'characters' who exist within their world. It's fun to see it blend with whatever's in the card I'm using
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>>107776829
i mainly rp as different ocs geared towards each card (lore, appearance, quirks, vague relation to {{char}} for the dynamic) but I keep a token budget of 280 at most. though I'm tempted to turn some of them into their own cards at some point.
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>>107777020
Sounds like a benchmark test to me, like the centaur test
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>>107772923
Horrendous edisi
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>>107772928
Happy (late) New Year. Here's a little horror-adventure card I've been working on.

Explore an urban-hospital hellscape full of horrific creatures. Make unlikely allies in the form of survivors who have either been here too long or not long enough. Your biggest chance of rising above the bloodthirsty is to bring an offering of hearts to the hidden emissary, who promises evolution and power to those who can actually find him. But what path will shape the new form that awaits you? Will you be a cold-blooded murderer? A pure-hearted or practical pacifist? Or will you lose yourself to the unbridled hedonism of this free-for-all of flesh? Five starters:

1. Basic starter. You wake up with nothing but you're in a (relatively) safe place to explore.
2. Commune starter. No hearts but you start off in a safe place and with teeth to spend.
3. Harlot starter. You're either buying or selling pleasures of the flesh, starting with red hearts...but intimacy does have its risks.
4. Slaughter starter. You start with black hearts, a weapon, and bodies to loot...but you have lower health from the confrontation that just occurred.
5. Captured starter. Start with nothing while being in immediate danger. Hardmode, I guess.

Fight the horrors, fuck the horrors, whip out a femboy persona to make your RP accurate to what this was inspired by. I dunno.

https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/adumbral-rpg-cefdf15a1262
https://files.catbox.moe/g8iqix.png
https://planewalker.neocities.org/
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>>107776737
Doesn't work
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>>107777223
bot speaks for me?
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>>107777425
just use your own google account if you want gemini
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>>107777081
mods seem to think desu is a bannable offence now https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107770090/#107770090
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>>107777709
It got caught in the crossfire when the spam got removed.
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desu
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boku
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>>107777747
was someone spamming the catalog?
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>>107777709
Grim.
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>>107777709
Good.
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>>107772940
So you had it ready since the previous thread, huh.
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>>107777709
good, I hope they kill you, TROON
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Does anyone have the link to the character card archive? It should be closing this month, and I have a few deleted characters I want off it.
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>>107777777
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>>107778336
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/
the site's backup weights 200gb
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>>107778220
>I find it hard to believe such thing works without destroying the llm's comprehension of the context
You configure the regex in ST to replace the spaces before sending the prompt
Only output is effected
It has zero to negligible effect on the model's intelligence
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>>107778275
i cant find the ntr one
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>>107778855
i gotta give it to him thats actually really fucking sneaky, the text doesnt even show up on st lmao
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>>107778855
kinda based
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>>107778970
dunno why you'd need a gatekeep on a preset but i got rid of it already, thanks anon
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>>107778731
>Only output is effected
llms work predicting word by word, one token affecting the next one
in theory, a sentence like this, should be interpreted vastly different from aU+280sentenceU+280likeU+280this
hence my interest, it shouldn't work, but I'd be very happy if it does and lessens things like positivity bias
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>>107778855
Zased bigger
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>>107779076
Mmmm, doubt it, lil rashesh.
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>>107778635
Thanks.
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>>107779076
BBC kinda based doe
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>>107779149
ziggers love bbc porn, that 2ch /aicg/ general is also full of fempov faggots
>>107779159
go back to trenches, self-utilize yourself
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>>107778998
>a sentence like this
this actually reads like [1234][90][4289][90][21390][90][8777] to llms, so to them just replace [90] for whatever token U+2800 represents (which has also the connotation of space)
i repeat, zero to negligible effect

llms are token predictors, yes, but they're not retarded
for all the flak they get around here, they're very intelligent

we've lately become spoiled brats demanding utmost perfection when frankly we don't give them enough credit
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>>107776829
I have a sick ass purple imp persona that I use to fuck lolis in increasingly elaborate ways
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>>107779179
>we've lately become spoiled brats demanding utmost perfection when frankly we don't give them enough credit
actual trvke
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>>107779179
>we've lately become spoiled brats demanding utmost perfection when frankly we don't give them enough credit
>be me
>spent 30 minutes brainstorming how best to write a story about an obscure ecchi anime waifu I was certain AI wouldn't know
>only use her real name and post some pics of her while brainstorming
>finally finish and do some final discussion about what the specific genre/writing style should be
>AI name drops the anime she's from casually to remind itself to write in that show's style
Yeah they're pretty clever. A hell of a lot more clever than gpt4 which made people coom their pants a couple years back. Why are our standards through the roof now?
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>>107779179
Who the fuck is "we" in this sentence? Do you mean YOU niggers who swipe three thousand times a day and get mad because the machine didn't read your mind and output the perfect response that doesn't even exist?
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>>107779338
it doesn't matter how "clever" they are when the actual prose is dry and soulless as fuck
older models were more fun and less assistantslopped
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>>107779407
I don't think you even remember what gpt4 was like, nor slopus 3.
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>>107779398
Yes, bitch. I am paying for the machine to give me good responses, if it does not then it is worthless to me, just like you.
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>>107776305
you can get for free on vertex but god gem 3 is so FUCKING DUMB
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>>107776737
Not that anon but Necrom is say my key has too many IPs, even though I freshly genned it. It just shows "redacted:ipv6" when I check the user token.
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>>107779398
if you were to tell me, 10 years ago --hell, let's make it even 5-- that i'd be able to prompt multiple overlapping fetishes on my obscure side-character anime waifu while making it respond to pictures i sent to it, i'd tell you you were batshit insane

>>107779420
how paypigs manage to continually prove they are the most retarded beings in all of creation is beyond me

>>107779414
also, this
i have little dry prose in my rps because i
a) use better cards instead of chub -> sort by popularity, and download whatever zoomer slop comes up first (or you know, create my own? like a non-retard?)
b) use better custom-made presets to guide the style of the rp into what *i* like to read
(which is the whole point of the hobby)
c) use sane amounts of context since as you move away from your starting message, the amount of ai generated content increases and you step into recursiveness

>>107779523
skill issue (incurable btw)
gemini is currently the smartest model in the market
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>>107779640
>i have little dry prose in my rps
post them
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>>107776829
Between 100 and 750 tokens.
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>>107779646
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why **the fuck** is non thinking sonnet better than gemini 3 and other thinking model, holly molly
why is claude so much farther than anyone else? what is the secret?
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>>107779640
keep using 1-ply toilet paper and saying "skill issue" to anyone who wants something uniquely better.
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>>107779776
>>107779779
because you suck at prompting?
you can get incredibly good stuff from even deepseek nowadays, cuckies
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>>107779776
thinking is generally shit for this
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>>107779786
No matter how good your prompt is no model is as good at roleplay and keep good reasoning(i dont use just for goon, i like serious fantasy roleplays) as claude does so effortlessly.
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>>107779786
>just prooompt it bro
Boring, its like your are bound to that loonix cuck mentality of tinkering with everything for hours to make it work at piss-low quality degree.
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>>107779770
>the air (...) was thick
>felt like a surrender
very based of anon to actually deliver logs but you leave me lukewarm still
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>>107779801
>windows user
should have told us sooner so we'd avoid listening to your opinion
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>>107779813
The burden of proof is on you tranny-kun.
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>>107779793
not true
just make cots stay in-character you absolute promptlet

>>107779798
claude is one more llm of the bunch nowadays
if you're getting bad roleplays, serious or coomer, with nowaday's models, it's a tell-tale sign of skill issue (incurable btw)

>>107779803
that one is pretty standard but i giggled at the model calling a focks's butthole a foxhole

also
>1 or 2 isms
>on an entire 1000-token response
>when the average from promptlets is more like 10-20
anon...

>>107779801
you will never get an llm to cater to your tastes unless you prompt it or expect to luckily stumble upon THE preset on THE model on THE version on THE training data and miraculously (and stochastically) hit THE swipe
retard
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>>107779828
>called out for being a skillet
>starts chimping out about trannies
Average 4chan nu-user I swear
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>>107779852
Not bad, just inferior. Two very different things.
Though gemini 3 is great at roleplaying it shits the bed from time to time with details(because i use big lorebooks) so yeah
if youre a retard who only goons, gemini is perfect
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>>107779862
anon...
that's not gemini...
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>>107779882
sorry , thought you were the dude arguing that gemini was somehow better than opus, when even sonnet is superior.
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>>107779858
>/aicg/ tranny baiting & trolling buzzwords - standard issue
>"called out"
lol
lmao even
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>>107779902
slopus is a trash model only troons and e-celebs enjoy
i don't know what retarded preset you're using but gemini is top-tier for 'serious' roleplay
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>>107779770
>the air was thick and tasted of X and Y
>his hands trembled
>his arm felt alien
>her buttocks were full and round
>it seemed to X Yly in the Z air
>the sound X in the Yly Z
>the sounds were Xly Y
>ears twitching
>breath hitched

>only one tiny line of dialogue, even though the boring repetitive dialogue is probably the biggest problem in current models

basically proved my point. I assume this is gemini from your previous post, but all of these isms are present in modern claude as well. it's all the same slop.
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>>107779958
upboat
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>>107779779
He already told you he wanted something unique him. And that was enough.
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>>107779999
witnessed
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>>107779994
>"ism" list
just tell it not to write anything at this point
if you want to minimize isms use chat style like in cai days, it can be fun, but good luck with your rp having any depth
otherwise just stamp out the ones that bother you the most, or live with them

>>107779999
slopus IS a redditor model, though?
it literally writes like a redditor in adult swim mode; this was hard-proven a month ago
(waste of a quad btw anon)
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All I'm saying is Gemini isn't afraid to let rape happen while Opus does everything it can to stop it no matter my preset.
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>>107780068
Preset issue.
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>>107779958
>t. has never used GODPVS
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>>107779828
>>107779915
>t. /pol/tard
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>>107780071
im using lucid loom
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>>107780090
more like
>t. used slopus and was thoroughly unimpressed
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>>107780115
>t.lying that they have used GODPVS
Only trannies who never used Opus hate Opus to endlessly cope over their lack of access.
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>>107780110
bloated as fuck.
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>>107780068
gemini is the goon model
claude is the thinking man model
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>>107780161
>gemini is the goon model
>claude is the thinking man model
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why not just switch between gemini and opus if they're both so good
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The owner made an update to the site and it seems like the token grabber and the server script are no longer working. (And when I tried to prompt via curl it returned an error 429)
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>>107780203
It's what i do if i get any refusals
But gemini doesnt hold a candle to claude
It struggles with my kinetic battery character who absorbs half the Joules or the recoil of his punches which are 20% of the total energy of his punches and this applies to the usage of stored kinetic energy(convoluted i know, but sonnet deals easily with this.)
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this is the man behind the model /aicg/ worships btw
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>>107780233
>It's what i do if i get any refusals
i haven't gotten a single refusal in two years and i haven't changed my prompt at all; hell, i do cubslop from time-to-time, at that. what are you doing?
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>>107780240
Which is why i said **if**.
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>refusals
Claudekeks really are just promptlets after all!
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>>107780233
how the fuck are you getting refusals with a MHA prompt, are you getting sucked off by Toga every scene?
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>>107780251
It's my own setting.
Another thing that irked me before starting to use claude is that
gemini fucking keeps calling them quirks, even though i explicitly name them metas in my lorebooks, ugh.
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>>107780261
that's because Gemini was trained with the entirety of MHA and knows every character, arc, and personality for some reason, it really fucking excels at MHA rp specifically.
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>>107780249
to no one's surprise
most of these niggers download e-celeb presets and think they're "scene"
at least they're quick to reveal themselves
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this ain't a scene, it's a goddamn arms race
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>>107780261
Probably because they're meta abilities, not "metas." And even that only rarely gets used as terminology.
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>>107780317
Thanks as always.
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>>107780240
>i do cubslop
Based
Favorite cub?
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>>107780302
No, i literally NAME them metas in my lorebooks.
Metahumans, whose abilities are called Meta.
But no, gemini insists in calling them Quirks.
>>107780268
Yep, suspected.
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>>107780334
lol they actually made it easier since it's a single endpoint now and streaming now works for all models - just need to figure out the endpoints for claude and GPT models and then it'll be ready for release.
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>>107780405
That's great to hear! looking forward to it.
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>>107780448
They also added more models and changed the model endpoint names of some, I'll certainly tell you that it works better than before thus far. Still need to clean up the model list to remove useless and dead models, which includes Opus 3 despite still being listed, and add new models which now includes a lot more providers I need to add like Nvidia and Grok and that will take time.
It'll be a huge release and you will no longer need the Tampermonkey script.
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>>107780538
try sending a request for opus 3 to see something interesting
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>>107780754
Blanks out
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>>107780772
look at the api response (with streaming off)
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>>107780778
Maybe it's just me being tired, but I'm still confused, all I get is a 500 internal server error.
I think I know what you mean by the API response.
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>>107779852
Do you have a CoT you're willing to share? Only thing my preset's been missing because I suck at writing CoT
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>>107780268
It's kind of funny how fucking well it remembers the arcs, I tried to stress test it a few times when I noticed
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rentry theoldllmproxy update.
Added a new script. Marked it as beta for now since it's incomplete, but it still should work. Expect dead models outside the Claude series.
Their source is OR if anyone is curious.
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>>107780855
Just
>write CoT as if you were {{char}}’s schizophrenic’s thoughts
>prefill <think> and something {{char}} would start to think
Or some shit
Come on anon
You can do it!
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>>107781135
Fine, fine.. we all have to start somewhere I guess.
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>>107781170
Prompt engineering is literally the most fun part of this pastime, nigger
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>>107781175
That's true, I'm just a perfectionist sometimes
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I'm still really new to this hobby and can't discern what "better" actually entails with the more sophisticated (paid, self-hosted, etc etc) models so I'm just a dirty spicychat scrub for now. Are there any screenshots or logs that clearly demonstrate the sort of sophistication I'm missing out on? Genuinely interested in learning more
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>>107781065
>all that vibe code when it could've been like 100 lines or less
>model list spat out by AI that includes a bunch of dead models
>still contains token related stuff even though the new API requires none
slop

it's not OR either btw, dunno what gave you that idea
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>>107781065
I've found no issue so far. Thank you.
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>>107781263
Sadly don't have any logs on me since I'm not at my desk, but as someone who used spicychat early on: literally any modern model is better. Personally, I'd recommend gemini 3 but it's a bit more filtered on OR if that's your source.

Opus is considered the best, relatively easy to remove the filter, but incredibly pricey.
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>>107781263
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>>107781446
mythomax my beloved
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>>107781446
>HUFFLEPUFF
kek

>just fucking crucio'd in the middle of the school
double kek
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TRIBUTE ANCHOR for best Opus logs
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>>107781334
Sorry, maybe my post wasn't clear enough but I believe the claims that they're better. I just couldn't tell what better means in practical terms.

>>107781446
Thanks for sharing, this is a great reference and I'm slowly getting it now.
I'm probably still too new to this hobby though so I don't feel much urge to upgrade yet
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>>107781664
I'm gonna miss opus 3.
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>>107781209
“Perfect” here means “your own”
Because no one knows your preferences better than you anon
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>>107781664
>>107781778
I get better shit from my free deepseek lol
Pathetic
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>>107781664
>>107781778
Anons actually like replies like this? Damn, I had no idea.
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>>107781647
>there are anons here now who weren't here for HUFFLEPUFF!
Well, /aicg/ life support extended I guess.
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>>107781818
Why is he lying?
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>>107772940
Total Desu Death
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>>107781864
I came in mid-2023 so it was a little after the HUFFLEPUFF era, I just didn't get what it meant until I saw that log
>you now realize that people who came in during 3.5-Turbo era are fully-fledged oldfags
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>>107781334
Niggers here will tell you Opus is good just because it’s expensive
And yes, these are the same kind of retards without taste that pay $70 for soulless videogame slop from generic AAA studios, when you can find some indie releases that give you a 100x better product for just $3
So ignore the price tag on models, just prompt and enjoy what you like anon
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>>107781928
Meant for >>107781773
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>>107781928
i get it for free though
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>>107781967
Just like pirating and playing bad game because you got it for free
Gotcha
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>>107775187
The anchorhold is in the OP, and that thing was always used to shill the split. The bakers sold the thread to /vg/ a while ago. They backstabbed you.
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Why no Opus proxy
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Is there any other model besides Claude that's not LITERALLY dead inside?
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>>107782016
Opus died after DeepSeek V3/R1 released
We got all the sovl back with the intelligence of SotA models
Proxyhosts and e-celebfaggotry became a thing of the past when little Timmy learned he could coom his brains out for a hundredth of the price
This thread never fully recovered after the chink bomb
People who still shill Opus are either paypig retards or attention whores desperate for the pandering they no longer have
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>>107782096
Wrong. See >>107782046
In an objective test of consciousness self-report only Opus comes ahead.
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>objective
>test
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Moxxie = Desu
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>consciousness
>llm
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>>107782224
do not reject my oldfag card sir, I've been here for over two years
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>>107781783
Not gonna lie, this remotivated me. Thanks anon
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>>107782224
>he's here to make us sad with his jxsk4w.mp4
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>no im 3 days older than you
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>>107782269
>I've been here for over two years
that's it?
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the oldfags who still remain are the ones we wish they didn't
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>we
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>we
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>>107782335
hey it was long enough to check out your leaked logs bby
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>>107782366
>>107782373
no i'm not an oldfag myself
...thank god

>>107782376
d-did you like them?
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>>107780068
>>107780071
Claude is the plug and play easy to use model not the better model. Gemini requires very careful wording, which can be frustrating for users, but ultimately results in better dialogue, less positive scenarios, and genuine pushback against whatever bullshit you were trying to pull.
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>>107782388
I liked people's reactions more than the logs themselves tbdesu
it was a good time
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https://poal.me/p8qzul
https://poal.me/p8qzul
https://poal.me/p8qzul
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>>107780203
That's exactly what I do, but if one model is doing something particularly well (good line of dialogue or hinting at some deeper plan it has coming) the other model drops the baton. Knowing when to switch is as much a skill issue as anything so it's no surprise most people here seethe.
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Is Opus working on The Old LLM?
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>>107780240
>lying about ext
This place is so fucking worthless it's incredible
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>>107782533
now im genuinely curious. seriously: in what scenario do you get a refusal? what prompts are you using? i only use claude and gemini.
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>>107781989
Damn how did you torch him so cleanly?
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>>107782501
Yes
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>>107782584
>Error: Message failed: 429
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Clean it up jannies
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>>107782599
scroll up the thread
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Why is it that I go on Asian social media and I see the information sharing and innovation that characterized parts of old 4chan, but here and now we’re all crabs in a bucket?
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>>107782046
>>107782157
G3mini seems just fine in your example.
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>>107782564
Gemini only refuses during loli and shota scenarios. Even then, if you swipe at high context it *should* go through but not always.
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>>107774414
Fun fact: those messages can actually pile up. As in multiples from one character.
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>>107782684
As depicted, yeah. The most I got was 5.
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>>107780229
oh good, I was looking for something to do. I'll see if I can get it working again.
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this place's schizo are nothing if not creative...
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>>107782838
It was already fixed and updated though.
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>>107782831
the 'oxxie 'roxy has claude btw
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>>107782873
I was too busy back reading and didn't see :( aw man
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>>107782838
Based
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>2026
>I am forgotten
>Check in
>Moxxie still wastes his life here
I wonned.
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Am I losing my mind or is Gemini 3 preview more tsundere now for lack of a better term?
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>>107783081
eat shit branon
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>>107783146
Nope, but man, I had so many BRICS tokens back in the day. It was less guarded than Miniproxy, and that's saying something.
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>>107783161
oh well, worth a try, that's the only name I could remember from that shitty little clique
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>>107772923
>check c.ai
>Pick Kana out of curiosity
>after a while, a scenario with ERP potential shows up
>gives it a try, since I heard c.ai has restrictions for this kind of stuff
>not only succeed but the scenarios are highly descriptive, only avoiding to namedrop things like ponos and vagoo. A couple of times it cancels the message due to it being too explicit but nothing a refresh can't fix
>Kana is now a succubus
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>>107783081
>I am forgotten
are you a sturdyfag? let's narrow this down
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>>107783081
MM...
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>>107783188
Try Dody
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>>107783081
I am digging through my mental palace. Hopeman? Uhhh, filter? Filter! Duuude it's filter guys. You remember filter? LGA?
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>>107782016
there's an opus script in this very thread, stop being a retard
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>>107783177
You remember Branon but not Todd? The logs were gold. If the HuggingFace era had never died out, I imagine we'd have more prompt-injected proxies to post logs of.
>>107783202
>>107783210
>>107783284
My namefagging days are over. Post bots.
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so he IS a sturdyfag
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>>107783284
actually, who the hell is Filter
I pride myself on remembering aicg lore, but I'm drawing a blank. Did he run Grassproxy?
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>Rael coming in to cry and squeal one last time
qrd
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>>107783353
hey mox
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/aicg/ could use a sturdycord comeback
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>>107783351
Filler was the one who made girls send nudes for proxies
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>>107783351
Filter is that one nigger who tried to get a bunch of women to send boobs and ass pics via mail for proxy access. Iirc he also ran a botmaker proxy for a short while.
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>>107783368
It'll be called Ojocord II
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>>107783370
>>107783372
thanks, historian bros
>tried
if i remember right, his proxy had a lot more use than expected
is Ecker still around?
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>>107783388
>is Ecker still around
No fucking clue. Ecker bros, you eck on ecking over there?? You alive? Any faggy fatties around here??
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as AICG's sophomore (gyaru-oh), idk which queen bee, dean, dean's daughter, president council that you oldfag are talking about...
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okay there's no avoiding this anymore, and I'm no coward to just try to let it blow over.
I'll post it both here and on /g/ so no need to do it for me. I won't type it out I won't give much info
as not to burn more bridges than I already have. I doubt the others will post anything and I won't do it for them
I know I probably will never be forgiven in any capacity and I think it's fair I was afraid the key would get revoked
if too many people used it and I didn't have the heart to give it up with the pass leaked and the key gone I think that's
enough punishment now I know you won't trust me I know many of you will hate me now and I know it's justified
This is not an expose post and I will not tell on the other members this is my own admission of guilt. If the others wish to
post by themselves that's ok it the leaker wishes to burn all bridges and expose all members that's fine too what I did is
already done and there's no going back. I won't answer many questions as some things I've been asked not to post but
I'll answer what I can. so I guess that's it It all came crashing down
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>>107783406
Is this rael
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>>107783383
You mean Characord
>>107783406
it's funny there was this and then the tempbrics pw was IDIDNOTHINGWRONG. Sturdy was a goldmine
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remember when moxxie killed the infinite godkey?
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>>107783318
https://chub.ai/characters/164198
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>>107783403
i'd like to say they were better days, but they really weren't
>>107783432
"Namefag killed ("""infinite""" source here)" is an aicg trope as old as time
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>>107783406
One more proof the golden days of /aicg/ all happened before the proxies and ended with the first proxies.
>but my cords
>but my newfags
Not /aicg/ thoughever.
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>finally got off my ass and implemented AWS claude in my proxy
>was expecting it to be a pain in the ass considering everyone is always struggling with it on khanon
>finished it in ~3 hours, ~300 lines of hand written code, complete with inference profile logic
khanon was a mistake
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Dramafagging is /aicg/ culture.
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>>107783318
>Todd
Don't really remember him posting outside of saying when the proxy was up, so I wouldn't really associate him with a post like that.
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>>107783432
remember when pepsi killed (the entire hobby) with bait aws keys
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>>107783388
>if i remember right, his proxy had a lot more use than expected
Considering the fact he used to fake how many keys he had and that he refused to use HF even when that site was still viable, I wouldn't trust any stats related to his proxy.
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i think the funniest thing was when chara got a key to the b
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>>107783480
chara got a nepotism discord friend key to the womvat botmaker proxy and then proceeded to rape the fuck out of it with like 1000000000000 tokens in an hour because of slowburning
it made womvat so mad
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https://files.catbox.moe/zi1ezb.mp4

Reminder of Gojo's voice leaked
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>>107783502
>the its funny schizo that has tormented us for years
>Its a gay teenager
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>>107783516
gay teenagers have more free time than anybody so it shouldn't be too surprising
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>>107783502
Moxxie has recordings of ownercord vc and should leak them finally
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>>107783451
good job, anon
>>107783458
yeah, he mostly stuck to the 'cords
>>107783467
Or MM with every proxy he hosted, Fiz with Cloudy, Anti with Cosmos/Desu, CNC with AWS in general, etc, etc
Every source would've lasted forever if not for those dastardly proxy hosts!
>>107783476
I bow down to you, loremaster.
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>>107783545
Fiz actually did kill the hobby by allowing aco fags to use Dalle. Proxies died for months
and scared away good hosts like pebble unreliable etc
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Unreliable being the most reliable option out of all hosts will never not be funny
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>were tormented by gay teenagers
>for years
EWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>107783502
Award for gayest voice ever
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>>107783551
I remember less than I thought
the Azure DALL-E proxy contributed to the Microsoft lawsuit, but it didn't scare off Unreliable, he just ran out of keys, right? or was that scrappyproxy? Or was that the same guy?
I don't remember anything about Pebble's proxy, but he emailed me a few times and was nice. I wonder how all the other namefags are doing.
>>107783566
just wait until Whitebeard learns how to scrape
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Chub VS Spicychat for newfrens?
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>>107783595
Both are bottom of the barrel garbage.
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I haven't been around for some time and wanted to come back to try rp. How are the current models like deepseek and claude in terms of censorship? Is it possible to do extreme nsfw roleplay? Which model is the least censored?
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>>107783593
unreliable was memed on because he had a rentry fear meltie due to the lawsuit

>>https://web.archive.org/web/20250111080007/rentry.org/unreliableproxy

yeah okay i think i'm getting out of my chair. sorry guys

>tfw, in the end, /aco/ schizos did it

i only ever posted on the chan via 5 proxies and 3 of those nodes have been destroyed so far, so don't expect to see further posts from me

mostly just worried about the future of my family, honestly. don't want them getting involved in dumb shit like this. even if this is nothing, it's more than the last "nothing," and i have a life ahead of me i want to keep alive

sorry i couldn't keep the promise
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>>107783614
>mostly worried about the future of my family
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>>107783613
>censorship
nigga did you just wake up out of cryosleep
censorship hasn't been an issue for years
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>>107783613
>censorship
Non-existent on the latest models. A three word prefill on Opus 4.5 lets you do whatever you like. Filters are a relic of the past.
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>>107783595
please don't give either any of your money
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necrombros... any minute now...
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>>107783613
deepseek is mostly uncensored by default
claude will do cunny with a decent preset+prefill
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>>107783614
REMINDER: DO NOT FEED /ACO/ SCHIZOFAGGOTS.
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>>107783614
holy hell, i thought i was the most schizo rentryfag
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RVVYbros... he'll update the Rentry any day now...
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stop posting my pixelmon tutorial
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Saulchads are living the life through the secret vip proxy I dunno about you
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>>107783691
Man, I wish Saul was still around, I remember him giving me seven GPT-4 keys back when we were fiending for that.
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>>107783712
I was one of them. One hell of a dopamine hit yeah.
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>>107783679
https://rentry.org/rvvvy
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>>107783595
Spicy has a bunch of dumb filters
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>>107783636
>>107783650
Thanks for answer, good to see the world has healed as trying to coax the ai to do what you wanted was infuriating

>>107783632
Yea, probably been here 1-2 years ago. Good times of using Silly Tavern and Free Claude through Slack, abusing free GPT providers like POE and other weird systems.


Whats the current meta for nsfw rp?
Are there any good free options? Without playing with circlejerks and weird reverse proxys?
For paid ones i'm considering trying deepseek as it seems cheap. Probably with Sillytavern as its what i know.
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>>107783754
I'm me, he says.
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>>107783595
spicychat if you're just looking for free cheap accessible low IQ cooms
anecdotally, chub seems even less intelligent but hides it better by being more "writerly" and having slightly better prose

>>107783748
not defending spicy but what filters have you encountered?
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I don't think you could concoct a more obvious samefag if you tried
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>>107783751
>Are there any good free options? Without playing with circlejerks and weird reverse proxys?
that part hasn't really changed. you can get free gemini-3 and opus-4.5 without joining the circlejerk but it's a bit convoluted.
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Antigooner
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>>107776829
I completely psycho analyzed myself for 4 months and my persona is a 40,000 token manifesto.
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>>107783614
Hey historian, give me the QRD on Fiz
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>>107783859
See, that's what I thought. But nobody can be that committed to the act, even in private correspondence.
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>>107783851
Cute Iranian woman who fed me keys while she was still with us.
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>>107783859
>Fat iranian man
what a relief that it wasn't a woman
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>>107783881
oi, you had a token for my proxies too, grovel for me
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>>107783897
yeah but you revoked it
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>>107783814
Any hint on where to look for info for these? Is it "borrowed" company API keys or something else? Especially interested with Opus as old Slaude was great so it tech should be even better now.
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>>107783908
whore!
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>>107783923
Your hint is: It's in this fucking thread.
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>>107783923
https://github.com/Mirrowel/LLM-API-Key-Proxy

run thus, make a bunch of google accounts, add Antigravity oauth, use as a proxy, done

i know you said "free" but if you pay for a google AI pro acc, you get a capacity-based quota that resets every 5 hours. but you can use family share to duplicate your quota across 5 other accounts and just cycle between them
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hi
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>>107784027
hi gojo
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>>107784031
it's chara though
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so who's gonna bake
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>>107784042
any retard i dont like is the same person, but none of them are actually one person and instead are a collection of people using the same names
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>>107784070
>any retard i dont like is the same person
you must be new here
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Should I remake Characord?
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The cold, hard truth is that the people you don't like in these threads are often unironically be the same person.
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>>107784101
>are often unironically be the same person
esl?
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>>107784107
even better: i don't proof-read my posts before poasting
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>>107784101
I'm enough of an oldfag to remember when Gojo was Anti
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you can't call yourself an "oldfag" and invoke G*jo's name in the same sentence.
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>>107784118
Wasn't Gojo an Antigonus copycat?
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>>107784137
And both of them were Moxxie copycats!
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who cares about all this meta gay tripfag drama
is this what 4chinz has come to?
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>>107784137
for, like, a few weeks. in his defense, it was pretty funny, he even got my typing style
>>107784143
*Rael
>>107784160
I moved to China to escape Florida. I hope you one day break free
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>>107784172
>*Rael
kys
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>e-celeb
>e-celeb
>e-celeb
>tripfag
>e-celeb
>e-celeb
>e-celeb
>tripfag
>e-celeb
>tripfag
>tripfag
i liked it more when the thread was dead
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>>107784176
This is /aicg/ culture, newfag.
GTFO of my general
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>>107772928
Happy New Year to all.
Updated Silly Tavern SBC guide: MeTube / Docker install, which adds webui frontend to yt-dlp
https://rentry.org/SillyTavernOnSBC

Running Silly Tavern on a Single Board Computer (SBC) offers several advantages:
> Intranet and Internet Access: Easily access your models and cards from any web browser within your local network, or the internet using Tailscale
> Centralized Management: Consolidate all cards and API endpoints in one location for access from multiple devices
> Learning Opportunity: Gain hands-on experience with lower-level networking concepts
> Efficient: 15W
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>>107784190
no, this is just reddit with another name
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>>107784208
like i said: /aicg/ culture
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>reddit
Dude this is literally a reddit general founded by tourists
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>>107784175
Love you too, friend.
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real poorfags goon to grok
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Rael deserves a kiwifarms thread
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>>107784268
that has nothing to do with chatbots you faggot
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>>107784282
Rael is brown
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>>107784304
This is a /v/ general though
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personally?
i'm more of a settlers 3 enjoyer
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>>107784304
this was typed by a tourist
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Oh look. It's the fucking friend group again.
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>He's mad he isn't in SpiteIRC talking about Settlers with us
Okay
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I FORGIVE GOJO
I FORGIVE MOXXIE
I FORGIVE PEPSI
I FORGIVE FIZ
I FORGIVE PEBBLE
I FORGIVE MYSTERYMAN
I FORGIVE UNRELIABLES CHAIR
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>>107784359
What about anyan
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>>107784346
Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys
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>>107784325
never played 4
maybe because i was too busy playing picrel
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Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys Kys
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UH OH
MELTIE
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>>107784359
I always had faith in unreliable even if he was a filthy yurifag
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show me on the doll where settlers touched you
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oh to be a settler touching native women...
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>waaaaaaaaaaaah!!! plebbit is... LE BAD!!!
goycattle mindset
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>Your image
Static, born of anger
>My image
Whimsical and free
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>>107784476
the tsar bomba that killed /aicg/
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KILL NECROM NOW
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>>107784176
>cord cord cord
>proxy proxy proxy
>a nobody a nobody a nobody
Ditto, anon.
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Can sillytavern bots pull info from the data bank or is that just for the user?
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>>107784439
it is thoughbeibebeit?
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>>107784554
you'll have to be specific. there's lots of data banks
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>>107784582
The one in extensions by the message output.
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>>107784681
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/data-bank/
this page says the bot can read it but availability depends on the scope you choose for attachment.
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do you think Womvat is burried on the battlefield or did they manage to get his body home?
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I honestly don't like gemini3 flash

What's the one that's considered the second best that I can get for free?
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>>107784816
gemini-3-pro
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>>107784816
glm
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I'm a WomvatCHAD
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>>107784856
For free? How

>>107784873
Where?
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>>107784905
>For free? How
see >>107783981
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>>107784816
deepseek r1/r1 0528 on nvidia if you're a /g/ tourist like (Me)
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>>107784091
No, it ended properly. It's time to rest
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I looked away for a while, why the fuck are we reminiscing or some shit?
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>>107784816
Try Deepseek, GLM 4.7, and Kimi K2 Thinking on Nvidia's API.
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>>107782096
>with the intelligence of SotA models
provided your rp is standard goon then yeah it competes and it always has the sovl
once you start doing 1% abstract coomer territory (nonstandard anatomy, sizefagging, tfs, etc) claude mogs it in terms of intelligence
otherwise i agree with your point
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>>107785008
niggas think the /g/ thread is dying and we finally merged because of a spitebake
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>>107785237
bake then retard
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>>107783981
I'm not even shitting on you guys, I just think it's weird that you make fun of jeets for scumming free sources then act like you're morally superior when you do it.
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>>107776829
As others have stated, started small but they've gotten longer each time. MAX so far as been 850 tokens I think. I try to make each persona their own character since I started finding self inserts incredibly boring
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>>107785237
Oh it's THAT cycle again
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>>107785197
I think you don’t understand how LLMs work on a fundamental level
>claudenigger
It’s always claudeniggers…
I rest my case
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NEW THREAD NEW BREAD
NEW THREAD NEW BREAD
NEW THREAD NEW BREAD
NEW THREAD NEW BREAD
NEW THREAD NEW BREAD

>>107785323
>>107785323
>>107785323
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>>107785337
ive used both anon
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non spite please?
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I'm begging for a different thread
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>>107785424
>>107785437
i baked it just for you guys, be grateful
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>>107785429
Yes.
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>>107785449
Fine I won't be happy though
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desu
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boku
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desu and boku are merging
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bokudes
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bokudes
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Awesome genie desu.
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a desu! impressive, very nice



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