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a lot of this talk is the same as last years
if anything there's less new content

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I can't buy a 5090

when is this retard gonna announce some gamer shit

rx 570 8gb (rx 580 2048sp under device manager) is having driver hang up issues, ive reverted back to 24.1.1 but has returned. i've downclocked on adrenaline by 1 percent which has worked as a band-aid so far.
if it persists should i just keep reverting to older drivers until they stop spazzing out?
>t. poorfag neet

>>107774823
That sounds like a dying card

>>107774817
there's a rumour they're gonna unveil the rtx 3060

>>107774812
moonscorched

>>107774817
bad news anon....

>>107774812
I can't buy ram
I can't breathe

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>>107774817
different presentation on twitch in 9 or so hours

>>107774823
Like other anon said sounds like a dying card. If you have no morals sell it and buy something else. If you have morals keep it.

Remorseful waitfag posting his list:
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bnh6v4
Please come laugh at me and tell me everything I did wrong. This rig is for working on video editing/grading and 3D at home, not gaming.

The density is insane

>>107774854
oh brother this guy STINKS

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>>107774786
Thank you based Nvidia. Even with a card that's several years old you still get updates and features for quality and performance.

>>107774868
>This rig is for working on video editing/grading and 3D at home
Good luck working with fans blaring, adults with a real job to do use an aio in the year 2025

I wanna pee....

>>107774868
>This rig is for working on video editing/grading and 3D at home, not gaming.
Make your employer pay for all this, unless you're self-employed.

>vera rubin discovered dark matter

The thing we haven't even found? How appropriate to name this ai horseshit after her.

>>107774890
i saved this picture

>>107774812
Why would you want to?

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>Mfw I bought a 5090 few days ago for €2700, but I have to wait for it to arrive from the manufacturer as the cards weren't in stock.

It's okay, I waited for my 3080 for 11 months.
If this arrives under 6 months then I consider it a good deal. I bet it's going to be like 5 grand at that point, so it'll feel preddy good getting it.
Thank fuck for the European consumer protection laws.
The stores aren't too keen on cancelling these orders regardless of what the price of the product is at the time it's shipped.
You get it for what you paid for.

So whats the MSRP on these trays

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>>107774831
>>107774862
maybe, but adrenaline croaks pretty hard when this happens (application won't launch) so i am hoping its just gimped amd drivers
its the XFX model off of amazon and the reviews are glowing. i am on a 500 watt supply (minimum rated for the gpu) so i suspect i might be drawing too much off of it, but my r5 5600 is only 65 watts tdp and i don't game off of my SATA SSDs, only my gen 3 NVME so i can't be drawing too much power at a time.

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suspicious lack of seethe itt and the last

do we know which cpus amd is gonna announce at ces? any leaks?

>>107774933
Finally the new GPUs! I was getting worried there for a second, thankfully Jensen is still on the side of gamers.

long copper

>>107774940
anger turned into depression already

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>>107774944
YES GET EXCITED THERE'S SO MANY NEW GPUS COMING

>>107774940
Nicotroon probably got banned for 3 days

>>107774940
not like people can do anything about it.

>>107774868
If your workload is more GPU heavy I might consider going AM4 and getting a Ryzen 9 5950X and 128gb DDR4. And using that money for a 5080.

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/rJ3zmC

>>107774940
NICROTROON'S IN TIMEOUT

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>>107774940
certain canadian is hoping that DLSS 4.5 is a nothingburger

>Ryzen 7 3700X
>RTX 3060
Which one to upgrade first, you think? I'm eyeing the 5060Ti, but I might have to upgrade the CPU first to reduce bottlenecking.

half a ton of water in a rack bah gawd

>>107775006
GPU first, they have vram in it unlike the CPU and we are in the middle of a DRAM shortage so GPU's prices are gonna increase while CPU's and mobos will decrease as demand for newer PC's its reduces because people cant afford $800 for 32gb of ddr5 ram

>>107774812
>Go to MicroCenter days ago to pick up a 9070 XT, $625 after tax
>Wanted an RTX 5080, but accepted it wouldn't happen since I didn't buy before Christmas
>At online order pickup line
>Two enormous ham planet dudes are lining up some Asus Astral 5090 at the counter
>Tfw I paid maybe 4x less and am not obese, but the fat guy got to go home and plug in that absolute monster in his PC
It's a unique feeling alright.

>>107775006
I mean a 5700X or 5800XT is a cheap upgrade for a Ryzen. Don't worry too much about bottlenecking. But I'd say CPU pricing will remain the same or might even drop a bit. While GPU pricing will only go up.

So I'd say upgrade the GPU first.

>>107774939
Keep the GPU core frequency downclocked by 1~3% if that keeps the card stable at any driver version.
Your chip's degraded.

>>107775006
>>107775020
You can also use a trick to reduce the cpu bottleneck with nvidia cards using DLDSR or dynamic super resolution to run games at higher resolution on 1080p or 1440p monitor without performance cost because it runs on the tensor cores rather than the cuda cores so you'll just want to use the 5060 ti at higher resolution until you can get a better CPU

>>107775006
Well you missed the cheap platform upgrade window, but gpus are still at/below msrp (probably not for much longer), so I guess do that first regardless of potential bottlenecks.
I guess after that you keep an eye out for local deals on something that's x3d or alder/raptor lake

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>>107775046
I pray that at least CPU prices won't get fucked. The dies are so small that AMD has to turn a decent profit with them even compared to AI shit, right? No clue if Intel even has the option to use their fabs for AI stuff.

>>107774939
Still really sounds like a dying gpu. In my experience once it's not stable at stock it's going to just rapidly get worse with use.
Would maybe try a more strict underclock + undervolt to extend the life by as much as possible. (or don't, could also just get a job/steal something and buy a new gpu)

its over

>>107775078
yeah he's getting to how much HBM these gpus will be using now
it's beyond over

It's over

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>>107775078
Geforce bros, was DLSS 4.5 not good enough for CES

>each GPU will be going from using 1TB of HBM to 16TB of HBM over network
it's over

I feel scammed..

>>107775091
What the fuck is a Geforce and how does it help AI?

>DATACENTERS WILL BE GETTING POWERLEVELLING
>NO POWER SPIKES
BUT YOUR RTX GPU WILL STILL PULL 1300W AND MELTDOWN BECAUSE THE CABLE IS 0.01MM OUT

>>107775113
>1 million dollar gpu
wild times

>>107775070
If the DRAM shortages cause overall DIY PC building demand to drop, CPU manufacturers will cut back production to maintain or even raise prices to make up for the reduced sales volume.
Watch motherboard and even PSU prices go up next.

>>107775114
Why bwo

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/g/ told me Deepseek would be the end of Nvidia and Nvidia has used it to make a trillion more AI dollars and pump out even more AI models and spin up 1000 AI startups

THANKS CHINA

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/rubin-platform-ai-supercomputer

NVIDIA WON

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>>107775114
>>107775137
He thought Jensen was going to waste his limited lifespan shilling GeForce cards & features in 2026.

>>107775137
I expected some GAYMER announcements

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/vera-cpu/

THIS KILLS THE X86

now that waitfags have been btfo for all eternity explain why (You) did not buy

Now the peaceful time between the keynote and the youtube videos seething about the keynote

>>107775195
I couldn't justify $3k+ for a 5090, and my 4070Ti will probably last me until WWIII or the end of the RAM shortage, whichever happens first.

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HE DIDN'T WAIT FOR RTX 60 GPU

NGMI

>>107775223
>He doesn't know
50 series is the last ever RTX GPU

>>107775031
>>107775076
damn, sucks if thats the case. i ordered it not even a week ago so im just gonna run it into the ground and then return it i 'spose. im downloading april 2021 drivers now and will install them if i run into the same issue again, and if im still cucked at that point then idk

Yet another new AM4 processor to be released mid year

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LISA SU YOU UP NEXT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbfAhFxDomE

3 HOURS LEFT

>>107775242
Return the defective chip if it's a brand-new card or if you still have buyer's protection from a used goods transaction.

>>107775195
I didn't buy a $1k MSRP 5080 Zotac card because I hesitated at the huge $1k expense right before Christmas. Next day, all the stock was out at my local MicroCenter. No options otherwise except hard-fought 5080 drops on Nvidia's site after that. I ended up buying one of the $580 ($625 after tax) 9070 XTs insteaf because I desperately needed something that'd just work, and didn't want to double down on waitfagging just to pay more. I feel I made the right decision with my available options so far.

intel is cooking
https://youtu.be/pGLg9AghJao

I'm gonna eat nothing but goop for a year to be able to buy the rest of the components I currently lack (mobo, CPU, ram, SSD, I don't mind going caseless)

>>107775256
if they announced a 24gb (gddr6) gpu that'd be pretty cool now that nvidia is exiting the market

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>>107775223
We were always gonna get some gains from the 3nm node but honestly i really doubt we'll see the same gains, considering how much is that performance is probably down to the massive HBM4 and NVLink advancements as we dont have any of that on consumer GPU's if i somehow become rich i'll try to get a 6090 though unless it leakded that it somehow hass less vram than a 5090

>>107775266
>ram, SSD
You're NGMI, you need to Klarna this shit and pay off the debt before the interests kick in.

>>107775265
whoohoo arrow lake boys get in here all 12 of us

>>107775278
Klarna is 0% interest, just pay on time to avoid the jew penalty fees

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>>107775265
>>107775279
>Error Lake-Refresh announcement

>>107775266
JUHOR is calling

>>107775265
jesus christ these niggas are in the basement

>>107775262
Use case for the 5080 over the 5070ti? Being completely earnest here since I have the latter.

>>107775265
jesus they all look like the yare about to cry in the middle of the stage

>>107775303
In CUDA workloads it's a lot stronger

>>107775313
Thanks. I figured it was something my retarded ass wouldn't think of. They're all out of stock here anyway.

>>107775278
That's not a thing in the third world, also what's the difference between using that and using a credit card with interest-free monthly installments, I do know Klarna has their own shop tho
>>107775299
Maybe

>>107775265
>cuck cores

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>It sounds like they left the memory controller on the SoC tile
ONE FUCKING JOB INTEL!

>>107775355
Shhh look at the igpu

>>107775303
Just throwing money out for more performance at 2160p in my case. That said, for professional workloads, CUDA.

will be interesting what the new msi claw panther lake handheld looks like

>B390 is an IGPU
it's over

Anons, please tell me Intel will just blindside us with a sudden dGPU with a fuckload of VRAM and competing with the 9070XT/5080. I know it's unlikely, but let me believe. I will return my 9070 XT for an Intel card if they big dick it.

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>multiframe generation for IGPU's
but why

>>107775384
They want the third world audience that buys prebuilts with igpus to play league and fortnite

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Imagine demoing game performance @ CES 2026

>>107775397
>with a fuckload of VRAM
No one will sell them VRAM right now for a reasonable price, even if they wanted to offer it.

>multiframe gen on battlefield
this is just as retarded as AMD adding ray regeneration on cod

>>107775310
Say what you want about Jensen's faggy jacket, least he realizes no one wants to fucking see or hear from the rest of the losers at Nvidia.

>>107775404
Intel care about us gamerbros...

Seems that intel remembers that this is the consumer electronic show.

>>107775397
Intel is now a maoist money hole on par with boeing. Expect nothing from them.

>>107775402
Non-igpus will no longer exist soon. There will be igpus and llm-bricks.

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>>107775408
Just let me believe, fuck.

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wtf is that
intel are making a handheld???

>if you have any interest on mobile gaming
>you have to get that pc
intelbros, this is embarassing

I have a 8 year old 750w modular PSU from Seasonic. If I buy newer and beefier 850 or 1000w PSU from them will I be able to reuse the old cables?

>>107775274
The Jeetsen said as much, less of an increase in transistors over last gen but better performance because they vertically integrate everything else in the datacenter rack. Those efficiency gains doesn't translate at all to regular graphics cards.

>>107775436
seriously that's one of the worst looking products I have ever seen

>>107775436
AI generated image slop like all the other presentations.

Pasting CES 2026 schedule posted in >>107756604

CES 2026 Schedule: Keynotes & Demos to Watch (By Day)

Day 2 – Monday, Jan 5 (Media Day & Opening Keynotes)
Busiest news day
LG World Premiere (8 AM): 2026 OLED TVs, “Affectionate Intelligence,” AI appliances.
Qualcomm (9–11 AM): Snapdragon X Series, Windows on Arm.
Nvidia (4–5 PM): RTX 50-series (Blackwell), DLSS updates, Project GR00T.
Sony / Sony Honda Mobility (5 PM): AFEELA EV, creative tools, PlayStation integrations.
AMD Keynote (6:30–7:45 PM): Ryzen 10000 mobile CPUs, AI PC roadmap, data-center AI.
Also: Bosch (9 AM), Hisense & LEGO (10 AM).

Day 3 – Tuesday, Jan 6 (Show Floor Opens)
Enterprise & industrial AI
CTA State of the Industry + Siemens (8:30–10 AM): Industrial Metaverse, digital twins.
Show Floor Opens (10 AM, LVCC).
All-In Interview (2–3 PM): VC and AI strategy.
Lenovo Tech World @ CES (5–6:40 PM, Sphere): AI-native ThinkPads, Yoga dual-screen devices.

Day 4 – Wednesday, Jan 7 (Industry Day)
Heavy machinery, health, sustainability
Caterpillar Keynote (9–10 AM): Autonomous mining, electric excavators.
Digital Health Summit (All day, Venetian).
CES Foundry Celebration (4:30 PM).

Day 5 – Thursday, Jan 8 (Policy & Governance)
Senate Perspectives on Emerging Tech (11–11:40 AM): AI safety, privacy, chips.
Also: AI You Can Trust (11:30 AM), Workforce Development (1 PM).

Day 6 – Friday, Jan 9 (Startups & Discovery)
Shark Tank Open Call (8 AM–5 PM, Venetian).
Eureka Park Deep Dive: 1,400+ startups, best day to explore.
Show Closes: 4:00 PM.

>>107775440
>missed out on iphone
>missed out on entirety of smartphones
>missed out on gaming consoles
>missed out on VR
>missed out on AI

Intel bros...

>>107775303
Slightly faster chip. Not much else.
>>107775313
No, it is not. 5080 is only somewhat faster than 5070Ti at compute.

AI Hell

>>107775480
A company ran by marketers.

>>107775478
>Caterpillar Keynote (9–10 AM): Autonomous mining, electric excavators.
wooooooo

>>107775445
Email Seasonic customer service for the most reliable answer. You need to share the exact product models (including year).
This CableMod compatibility list is also handy.
https://cablemod.com/compatibility/

>>107774933
Kiddies, this is why DRAM prices are spiking. Each GR100 has 8 HBM chips that use stacked DRAM dies.

Every time these dorks go from cool shit into ""AI"", I get so bored. I keep intermittently looking at Asian bitch buttholes because that's more appealing than actively listening to this blatant faggotry. Damn. "Consumer" my ass.

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>>107775478
>Nvidia (4–5 PM): RTX 50-series (Blackwell), DLSS updates, Project GR00T.
Geforce bros we made it to day 2 at least

local microcenter has a bunch of 5070 tis left. should i finance one?
>t. poorfag with a 1070

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>>107775447

>Those efficiency gains doesn't translate at all to regular graphics cards.

Which means that 6000 will probably be at tops 20% faster than the 5000 series, while costing $500-$1000 more at launch, who knows how much that is in real life, and they will have the same amount of VRAM.
Then they're going to be scalped to oblivion due to the low launch numbers and people will be saying they should have bought the 5000 series cards now while the prices were still somewhat reasonable.
The gayming market is done and waitfagging is stupid.

Yeah I've had my fill of AI for the evening

>>107775522
5070 Ti or 5080

>>107775303
It performs slightly better for a lot more cost. If all you care about is performance and have money to light on fire it may make sense.
For anyone who is asking this question on this board, it almost certainly does not.

>>107775522
Unless you need the raytracing shit, you can probably find 9070 XTs for $580-$600 with ease. That's the case for my store anyway. As a poorfag, the savings would make sense imo unless you're needing CUDA or you really want DLSS.

This is sad. Everything is just slop now.
The whole world is just slop.

>>107775540
AI slop no less. The worst kind.

Ive embraced the slop i use my 5080 to generate porn during my jerkoff sessions. How's that for vertical integration.

>>107775538
As a poorfag it makes no sense to buy AMD because they support the hardware for only 4 years, you will hit maintenance mode in 3 years and have to buy another card

>>107775523
why do you even need GPU at home?

want to play - use GeForce NOW for a fraction of price
LLM - ChatGPT
blender - entry level GPU, also CPUs are performant enough

the best part is that it will still be cheaper and you don't have prev gen hardware to throw away. i don't really understand all this faggots outcry in the gayming community

>>107775522
its now or never, just get one that is at msrp

>>107775436
Ai generated looking ass handheld

>>107775562
GeForce Nigs will always have unbearable latency i would just quit video games instead. Fortunately I'll always be in the continually shrinking % of people using a desktop as the decades go on. Even when it's sub-1% I'll be in it. Not too worried.

>>107775557
You should generate Tau. I need it for research purposes. You must understand the xeno to halt their blasphemous existence.

>>107775522
>poorfag with a 1070
Honestly if you're willing to finance you might as well get a whole new pc, we know a 1070 wasn't inside anything modern.

i cant beleive intel had someone that not only looked like a hobbo but when speaked he sound like they had a potato in their mouth ramble for 10 minutes

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>>107775562

>>107775589
This hurts in ways I can't even express.

https://download.intel.com/newsroom/2026/CES2026/Intel-CES2026-Core-Ultra-Series-3-Press-Deck.pdf

INTEL WON

FASTEST iGPU EVER

>>107775562
Ah yes, own nothing and be happy.
Ignore the fact that you can easily get 5+ years of gaming out of a good build and if you play more than 100 hours a month you would have likely paid for a great PC in 5 years of fees.
Ignore that any multiplayer game where you care about ping will be miserable to play.
Great choice anon.

>>107775599
where is the b770 24gb vram 5060 ti equivalent?

>107775599
>multi 4 times framegen from 30 fps
Kill yourself retard

>>107775562

>Just buy a subscription service, don't own anything.

Lol no.

>>107775599
Finally, some competition.

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i dont think we are getting new GPU's announcements this CES

intelbros...

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>>107775562
>>107775575
ooops we lowered hours you can use. AGAIN.

>>107775633
XD

>>107775581
i'm running a 5600X. too late to upgrade to zen 5 now isn't it with ddr5 prices being insane?

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AYYMDEAD IS DONE

Gamershit
https://youtu.be/1O4as35G6yA

>Intel available tomorrow
Do I need to return my new 285k?

in a year you will be thinking "fuck i should have upgraded to a 5070 ti last year while they were going for MSRP"

>>107775648
only if you want an underpowered laptop

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>>107775622
You vill buy nuzzing and be happy.

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>>107775599
>t. brainlet
Too retarded to even realize that they never compare against AMD's top end laptop processor the 395 it's all 365, 370, and 375.
Basically all the slides are about fake frames and fake pixels.

>>107775646
>1080p
ick

>>107775641
Not that anon but way too late if you truly are a poorfag, a 5600x will bottleneck anything above a 5060 ti 16gb/5070 so maybe get that and a 1440p display

>>107775641
Not unless you can find a pre-built still in stock.

>>107775522
Yes.

>>107775622
The c stands for clownworld

>>107775641
Yes, but the 5800x3d is still good if you can find one used for a good price.

>>107775652
My 7900XTX from 3 years ago is better

>>107775699
used 58003xd are marked up anon, they go for above $800 https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-legacy-ryzen-7-5800x3d-chips-now-sell-for-up-to-usd800-more-than-a-new-9800x3d-am4-chip-costs-twice-as-much-as-msrp-as-enthusiasts-flock-to-old-ddr4-memory

>>107775712
>from 3 years ago
didnt they already cut support for it

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>>107775712
in 1 more year the 5070 ti is gonna get DLSS 5 and you are gonna still be stuck with FSR 3.1

>>107775717
That was RDOA2, RDOA3 is entering maintenance mode in 2027

>>107775025
>>107775041
>>107775046
Good advice, thank you.

>>107775733
>4 years and its already in maintenance mode
>meanwhile nvidia supported 1080 ti for like 20 years
anon..

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>>107775046
>>107775070
nvidia announced production cut up to 40% so buy while you still can lads

>>107775695
THE BEST A GAMER CAN GET

>>107775670
>5060 ti 16gb/5070

man i dont know which one to buy. they both are kinda crap. wish i could get 4070 Ti super

>>107775622
Bro we're not getting new GPUs ever again period, the 50 series is the very last commerical cards they will ever make. Shame they ended on a stopgap generation.

>>107775714
That's why you find them used on shit like FB Marketplace sold by people with no clue about PC hardware pricing or take a gamble on ebay. I can see a bunch on ebay under $400.

>>107775769
4070 ti Super had a msrp of $799, to put that in perspective a 5070 ti msrp is $750, and would also bottleneck your CPU, if you think you'll be able to finance an upgrade to am5 or am6 in the future you can always go for the 5070 TI but if you are truly a poorfag that will not be able to upgrade in 5+ years then you are better with either of those cards and a 1440p display

I want to go back to my old PC

Man I can't believe I was gonna buy a used 1080 and wait for Supers/60xx series instead of just getting a 5070ti (actually got a 9070xt tho)
Really dodged a bullet there

>>107775775
im glad AMD is done, imagine how much better the thread will be from now on even if its just intel making IGPU's.

just give me my $249 3060 12gb re-release

5060Ti would be a 32% improvement at 1080p and 42% improvement at 1440p.

5070 would be a 59% improvement at 1080p and 88% improvement at 1440p.

how come vram isnt king here?

You know, outside of the /g/ and /v/ shitposts, you hardly hear about Geforce Now. You would think the 5-Trillion dollar company would advertise the shit out of it.

>>107775887
Maybe they do, do you look at ads anon? I certainly don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foltcapx62E

4 HOURS TILL DLSS 4.5

>>107775907
DLSS 4.5 is about to create dozens of nicotroons

>>107775756
The FUD is if this is a complete break from consumer cards or just a wind down so that 60XX series can ramp. So far everything points to the former.

>>107775899
like what? paying some padded-cell inmate to write shitposts on the basket weaving sites?

>>107775887
NVIDIA doesn't need to shill GeForce Now, they're enforcing monthly hour limits & additional charges.

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>tfw bought 5070ti
>RTX 6000 series basically announced at CES
Fuck..............
I should wait ffs.

Who the fuck is using them? oh no they raised prices on the 3 idiots using geforce now instead of the 27 million users on steam at this second. And about 73% of them using some nvidia GPU in their machine instead of some buggy cloud service.

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>certain canadian put his alarm to watch amd ces presentation
>wake ups to see DLSS 4.5 being announced

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I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO /PCBG/ AGAIN
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

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>I waitfagged/bought rdna
How did this happen? How did things get so bad?

radeon e-waste buyers have always been cucked
and no matter how many times it happens they will keep making the same mistake
because nvidia needs a "competitor" to prop up so they don't get broken apart by antitrust laws.
Nvidia thank you for your sacrifice, Radeonchuds.

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No new GeForce GPU announcements @ CES 2026, you trolling faggots.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-confirms-no-rtx-50-super-gpus-at-ces-2026-but-promises-updates-for-gamers

>>107776068
They just announce the chip

>>107776068
no new gpus, just $199 3060 12gb re release tho

>>107776074
Those aren't GeForce gaming GPUs.

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To be fair, do consumers even need more advanced CPUs and GPUs at this point?
Wouldn't it make sense to cease production of newer units and just manufacture current gen for cheap?

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-unveils-rubin-cpx-a-new-class-of-gpu-designed-for-massive-context-inference

>It features 128GB of cost-efficient GDDR7 memory

Rubin is RTX 60 and Nvidia reuses the same GPUs for GeForce, RTX Pro workstation GPUs and server GPUs

>>107776110
>just manufacture current gen
they can't even do that right now

>>107776110
making the current gen cheaper generally means porting them to a new node so you get more chips per wafer. At that point you might as well design something new.

>>107775986
Anon you do realize rtx 6050 will cost like $1000

>>107776129
>Anon you do realize rtx 6050 will cost like $1000
and it will have 8gb of vram

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>>107776114
Look at how much HBM memory a rack of them uses, then consider how many DRAM stacks it takes to make one HBM stick, then consider we are in the middle of a shortage until 2028, if RTX 60 happen in 2027 i'll be extremely surprised, i expect everything from UDNA, to PS6 to RTX 60 being pushed to 2028 or late 2027

>>107776124
It can also be new old stock they're trying to get rid of, but not in this economy.

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5090 owners loading up DLSS 4.5 knowing the peasants will never be fed.

>mess up one thing
>confidence destroyed
>nervous about things I never thought twice about before
Feels bad guys

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>>107775883
look at bandwidth vs dimension scaling
youll see the diff for like for like

>>107775195
There hasn't been a good game since Skyrim so no need

>>107776144
Me when I scratched by gpu a tiny bit

>>107776142
Fsr4 for rdna3/3.5 when

>>107775986
>RTX 6000 series basically announced at CES
Chat, is this true?

Still babbled to me that native rasterization is gonna be a thing of the past in AAA(A?) with how the dev times are going.

>>107776268
modded skyrim needs a really good CPU+GPU

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amdbros......... why did we fall for the youtubers' shilling.....?

>>107776292
so a 5600 and a 3060TI?
Really does it need more? what, did modders actually got RTX working on it or something?

>>107776302
none of the games i play with dlss have any suffixed number, meaning they are 2 or earlier

>>107776302
thats why you do AMD cpu + NV gpu you silly goose

best cpu best gpu

>>107776320
well my old 5800X could just barely push 60 FPS in populated areas
and i think my setup performs better than most premade modlists
14700K does ~95-100 FPS (so 60% more) which i would consider good enough
the engine has a hard drawcall limitation when there's too many objects, lights or NPCs on screen at once, it's better than starfield but it's still the same old bethesda jank

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>>107776339
>thats why you do AMD cpu + NV gpu you silly goose
this

>>107776302
AMDbros, surely they will not abandon RDNA4 next gen, right?

>>107776226
shame about 12Gb of vram

>>107776331
You can use the NVIDIA app and often force a game to run current DLSS model.

>>107776339
im gonna... im gonna TROOOOOOOON AND HIJACK THE NEXT OP TO MAKE ANONS BUY AMD GPUS, I CANT BE THE ONLY ANON SUFFERING, I WON'T BE ALONE IN THIS MISERY

>>107776372
thats why you go 5070 ti
192 bus with 16gb

>>107776381
this*

*= unless you live in a country where a 5070ti is basically almost the same price as a 5080 anyways

>>107776339
most reddit cpu most reddit gpu

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>>107776378
what about Tron?
i mean, we can discuss the differences between the 1982 and 2010 film... lets not bring up the jared leto soulless disney slop...

>>107776358
>5800X could just barely push 60 FPS in populated areas
??????
wtf fucking modlist are you using for that piece of shit? GPU? are you actually using 16k assholes???

>>107776372
12gb does suck but the issue is greatly exaggerated. 12gb now probably isn't going to age at the pace of 8gb on ampere, think more like 8gb on Turing or something.

>>107776387
okay im not going to run a xeon for a desktop chip mkay anon
its time to grow out being a contrarian, you will have to do it some day

>>107776392
Kek

>>107776302
The 1080ti... Betrayed...

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I've bought both a 265k and a 285k
They're good, and if you disagree you're a redditor

>>107776422
The goat.... Forgotten....

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tl;dw CES 2026?
Anything interesting for /pcbg/? AMD high end GPU? Nvidia super GPUs? I'm only aware of AMD double 3D cache CPUs

>>107776433
see >>107776302

>>107775020
>while CPU's and mobos will decrease
I want to believe that. A better CPU wouldn't hurt.

>>107776292
I play raw (AE)
Good mods?

>>107776443
Voxels and CPU rendering will make a comeback at this point

>>107776433
9850X3D might be announced later tonight.
I'm not expecting anything new out of Radeon.

>>107775664
>comparing to the one laptop that also costs $1500 more than these will
You are the retard

>>107776442
Will this be the kick for AMD to do the same?

>>107776393
it's normal in places like riverwood with many mods, like i said it's an engine limitation
GPU was not at 100%, but ENB is pretty heavy as well in places like forests if you increase the shadow and AO quality, and use features like complex parallax
if you use those modlists you can expect even worse performance because they think higher mod count means better so they cram as much shit in there as possible
>>107776425
yep... i'm thinking based
>>107776445
anything you want
if you want nipple dicks and moon rockets in your game then go ahead
just do it yourself, there's inevitably gonna be some shit you don't like if you download a premade list of 2000 mods

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>>107776268
Wrong

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>>107776425
they're not the best though, and they're VERY jewish. So you're still a goyslave for buying Intel-aviv.

Someone post that news of German retailers running out of RTX card inventory because they're buying them ahead of the pricing shitshow that's about to happen.

I hate chiplets so goddamn much. Why does everything have to be built for third worlders who can't afford actual yield intensive chips that don't have signaling latency problems created by introducing unnecessary solder points? I hope monolithic shit is available again in the 2030's when i have to upgrade again. At least my current pc has no shitlet garbage in it.

Im genuinely considering getting a 5070ti just as a spare at this rate, before the entire gpu market goes to shit

>>107776537
memes aside
you should

>>107776535
What happened? I remember everyone liked Mama's Su chiplets and everyone were mocking intel for not having them

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>>107776502

I'm a poorfaggot, I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy a hiksemi sata sdd 1tb for almost the same price of a 480gb kingston one
I'm aware the kingston one is not good either...
Do any of you guys have experience with hiksemis's ssds?

>>107776502
>>107776554
AMDGods...... I kneel... I wasn't aware you guys were this powerful

>>107776535
you can do chiplets with low latency
AMD did it in laptops and with RDNA3
it's just that AMD has been cheaping out on the same basic design since zen 2 and intel somehow managed to fuck it up even harder than AMD
it's not like monolithic designs are completely immune from latency issues, memory latency increased on alder lake when they increased the number of hops to accommodate the E-cores
>>107776552
everyone on reddit did that because AMD is a religion to them

>>107776569
>everyone in reddit
But I never was on reddit

>>107776535
>>107776552
chiplets are the future but we're still in the early stages. they're only 6 years old to consumers.

>>107776575
7*

>>107776574
you literally called her mama su
i know what you are

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>>107776552
i've been hating them since their inception. First it was a return to northbridge memory controller but with extra steps, now it's a fucking multi-socket design with a northbridge mc with extra steps. This isn't about innovation, chiplets make everything about chips worse except the economics (i.e the ability to sell to thirdies)

I'd gladly pay more to not have to deal with shitlets but it's just not economic to even produce monolithic anymore since most people are niggers.

>>107776575
were shitlets the future when intel released the Pentium 4 Emergency Edition? No, it's not new tech, it's not impressive, it's regressive. It's just trying to drop prices at the cost of quality and performance.

>>107776569
>everyone on reddit did that because AMD is a religion to them
chiplets were what dragged us out of the
>if you want more than four cores buy a server/weird extreme socket board and pay through the nose
age. It's what allowed AMD to use one individual chip for everything from the cheapest customer option to 32 core server CPUs. Considering they were on the verge of bancruptcy they probably wouldn't have had the capacity for multiple monolithic desings.

Does it matter what 5070ti I buy?
Are there shitter manufacturers or something?

>>107776604
asus was very mean to me with an RMA once. I think cooler wise it doesn't really make much of a difference anymore, which is funny considering we used to have autistic comparisons between all cards with relevant differences not so long ago

>>107776604
Something cheap.

>>107776586
But we used to call her mommy..?

>>107776600
yeah i know
i bought a 1700X shortly after launch, i did more to save AMD than anyone who goes on r/ayymd and praises "mama su"
>>107776619
lmao

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>>107776604
I strongly recommend that you pay the extra $50 or so to avoid the louder models.
It might be worth gambling with the $750 base MSRP tier PNY card, but they had some QC issues in the beginning.
These are the three options I'd consider today in the US.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XRvscf/pny-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-vcg5070t16tfxpb1-o
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hP3WGX/gigabyte-gaming-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-gv-n507tgaming-oc-16gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HW4Pxr/pny-argb-epic-x-rgb-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-vcg5070t16tfxxpb1-o

>>107776600
no AMD are just scalping now and maxing margins. They don't NEED to mix and match 70m3 logic dies on everything. Intel could sell 257mm raptor lake dies for $369. AMD could easily make a 16-core ccd with an imc but their margins wouldn't be as high and no, they wouldn't have to charge thousands of dollars for it either. Everything is just shit now for the sake of it. I hate shareholders.

So, where's the toolbag from yesterday that was swearing up and down there would be a 24gb 5070 ti announcement today?

>>107776632
>saying you fell for a troll
look up at the ceiling anon

am i cucking myself by buying cl36 ddr5 ram? cl30 is just too expensive..

>>107776655
No one fell for it, fren. But he was persistent.

>>107776656
If you have an X3D CPU it's okay, you'll suffer a bit in 1% lows, but not that badly.

If you have a regular non X3D CPU, then you could be hurting.

>>107776656
Not really... it's literally a couple of frames when you're in the 100-120fps range.

>>107776557
I did some research, and HIKSemi is a consumer storage division of HIKVision that makes surveillance-grade SSDs.
Their SSDs are probably reliable enough for general PC needs.

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>>107776654
True, I'll avoid that brand
But not gonna lie, shopping for a sata sdd is so confusing, I just learnt what the difference colors of the add means, basically green is budget, blue is a bit better, and black is for gaming, there's more like purple and gold but those serve other purposes
But there's also a lot more other brands like hp, verbatim, patriot etc
I'm so confused right now

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>>107776422
Still HODLing my 1070ti.

>>107776675
>>107776656
Average FPS difference would be 2-5% worse with 1% low difference of 5-10% worse when using a 9600X/9700X/7600X/7700X

With an X3D CPU it would be ~1-2% worse average FPS and around 2-4% worse 1% lows.

>>107776691
Yeah I did some research as well, I do know that, but I also found another website where I'm finding more ssds at a very decent price (reliable website) before I was shopping on Amazon and the prices are kinda high, so I have more options now

>>107774786
I'm running a b450 I got back in 2021. Should I upgrade before mobo costs become medieval as well? Or will that last me?

>>107776142
>someone holding onto a 2060 sleeps soundly knowing that even he's above the peasant class

Is there any downside to RAM that supports both AMD Expo and Intel XMP? For example, Corsair RAM with SKU CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30. It claims to support both. If it was possible to support both with no downsides, then why would anyone manufacture RAM that only supports one or the other?

>>107776746
Nope.

>>107776746
Intel charges a license fee to use XMP
AMD doesn't charge anything to use EXPO

Both AMD and Intel motherboards will generally support both at this point in time.

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Is there literally no monitors that are the same color and text quality as the Apple Studio Display/macbook (200+ PPI), but with 120hz and low ms????

>>107776781
You were already told the Asus PA32UCG-K is one of your only options besides waiting for the Studio Display's rumored replacement later this year.

>>107776628
Just seems a bit naive to expect them to do that considering everyone is in open war for wafer capacity. Intel was less affected by that with their own fabs, and it's not like they had chiplet designs ready to go.

>>107776748
Thanks
>>107776763
I've heard that about Intel's licensing. Which is why I'm even more baffled that Corsair seems to have RAM in the Vengeance lineup that is Intel only (SKU CMK32GX5M2B6000C30 for example) yet I can't seem to find any that are marketed as AMD only. It's as if they wanted to pay the licensing fees.

>>107776781
SAARR ITS NOT "SLOP" ITS SHAHI PANEER SAAAAARRR

>>107776789
the Asus PA32UCG-K has 5ms..I am going to get creamed in shooters. Plus it costs 3 thousand fucking dollars, I can buy a 5090 with that.

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Saw some guys talking in another thread about am4. I don't have the cash for a full upgrade right now, but I can afford more ddr4. Do you guys think it's still worth it to get 64gb of ram on an am4 setup?

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9800x3d bros how are we holding up

>>107776502
funny how there's literally zero "superior aryans" even making gpus

lul

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>>107776834
Yeah, it's SO much worse than dedicated gaming monitors.

You don't know what you're talking about, and you probably don't need anything close to the performance you're asking for.

>>107776840
Depends on your AM4 CPU I think. The platform is still fine, it's just limited by the 5800X3D being unobtanium.

>>107776865
I have a 5600x. Hard to justify a x3d when they're double the price now.

>>107776806
>It's as if they wanted to pay the licensing fees.
As far as corsair is concerned, it's likely a rounding error for their budget. Considering how many of their kits on the market, they likely just pay for XMP just in case someone buys it and throws it in an intel build because they're a normie moron.

might as well give that moron a 1 click XMP profile that just werks, even if they bought the wrong RAM for their platform.

>>107776849
9850X3D status? has it been announced today yet

>>107776840
>64
No
>but I need the 64 for [work]
Then you shouldn't need to ask.

>>107776870
>>107776870
you don't need your dog shit slop at 10fps faster

>>107776870
I wouldn't do it then, unless I really needed the extra RAM for something, but then you wouldn't be asking here. 32GB are plenty for the forseeable future.

>>107776870
>double the price now.
did Microcenter ran out of them? The x3d weren't that good for workstations right? I guess AMD didn't expect to be that many gamers after them.

>>107776880
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d-launches-this-quarter

>>107776781
This guy... how new is he on the internet? This unironically will make people call it slop even more. This is bad rep for MS.

>>107776840
ddr5 is like around 40% more expensive than ddr4 so yes
this video kind of puts on perspective the current market https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijAyVshtok
i wasnt aware all ryzens got a huge upgrade after some wingay11 patches, thats why numbers are different compared to release

>>107776884
yes he does.

Where can I get dual rank DDR3?

>>107776902
why does this guy always look pissed off

>>107776916
because some nigger on /pcbg/ lives rent free on his head
you know which one

>>107776889
AMD cut production of consumer zen 3 x3d chips
Those dies like everything else is more profitable to sell as server parts
>x3d weren't that good for workstations
The 7373X exists for a reason

>>107776889

Think so. The only am4 left at my local Microcenter are the 5800XT and 5900XT.

>>107775256
antisemitic micro devices conference is about to start

>>107776860
those arent even top tier gaming monitors

>>107776902
>wingay11 patches
bleg, are there scripts to debloat that piece of garbage?

Aymd is truly peak reddit

getting tranny vibes from amd

>>107776902
Does this exist as an article with pictures? I don't like videos.

Next
>>107776958
>>107776958
>>107776958

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>>107776941
the xt naming is quite dumb, the 5800xt is slighty better than the 5800x and the 5900xt is sligthy worse than the 5950x
the videocardz chart is bretty gud
tldr get anything vermeer based you can find

>>107776963
I do not like that OP.

>>107776941
>>107776939
Last am4 x3d is the brazilian/mexican one it seems.
unless you can get a gaming buddy to sell you one discounted.

>>107776943
I never said they were.

Were you expecting them to compare a 120hz production monitor to 240-540hz gaming panels?

>>107776984
>xt naming
it is just re-selling with a small as fuck improvement

lisa is iwatas sister

>>107776849
Not happy with mine to be honest, but AM5 in general has been a disaster for me.

>>107777003
you know what im just gonna wait for the apple studio update

>>107776781
MSI just announced a 27" 5k miniled display