Baker editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Snowsky Melody (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>107770750
Does anyone know if there are shops in Mumbai where I can try some of these iems?
>>107788861>techs>look inside>it's actually just more treble
EDC Pro won.
>>107788449 which one of you posted this
>>107788923i know yall be lovin this shit right herejd vance pic unrel
Endgame.
>>107789366how's the m3 plus?
>>107789385It does the job for now, but has an audible noise floor that I can hear when nothing is playing.
>>107789569fuck meat least battery life is good right? right?>inb4 less than 20 hoursit's either tanch or miku
>>107789598Kek thats not me, its the surfans faggot who got butthurt i called his pos out for being a hissblaster.M3 plus is great, no hiss at all. They also optimized the OS or something cause scrolling and stuff is way smoother than otber SD665 daps.
>>107789569>>107789625i'm not a chronic iemgtard so i'll trust neither of you
>>107789639That's a good idea because the M3 shill is known to just hallucinate random bullshit.
If another /iemg/ anon buys R2R and tubes I'm leaving this general forever. I can't take it anymore. I'm literally shaking.
>>107789711you don't know how to shit on obvious memes? skill issue
>>107789788It was funny the first time. The second, third and fourth times gave me PTSD.
>>107789711I used to post tubes ironically, did not expect anyone to actually fall for it. Crazy turn of events.
>>107789829Because of you, this thread is infected with absolute degeneracy like RU6/RU7, TA-66, B4-X, ADV, K11R2R and Darkvoice. What do you have to say for yourself?
>>107789867I underestimated how retarded the average chud here is.
>>107789915Absolutely abhorrent. I just threw up in my mouth a little. You're literally raping the FR.
>>107789927>You're literally raping the FRit was already raped before it touched the amp. and besides, couldn't you just easily say you can eq back to 'normal'?
>>107789934Might need convolver at that point.
>>107789927Rape? That's not rape, this is rape.
>>107789939to do what exactly?
>DSEE Ultimate Using Edge-AI (Artificial Intelligence), DSEE Ultimate (Digital Sound Enhancement Engine) upscales compressed digital music files in real time. And the evolving algorithm now delivers even greater benefits for CD-quality (16 bit 44.1/48 kHz) lossless codec audio. Restoring acoustic subtleties and dynamic range, it provides a richer, more complete listening experience. Sony won
>>107789953you gain no extra detail or information at all with upscaling. you've been had
>>107789953Even if you upsampled your music, the auto-upsample in the SigmaDelta DAC chip makes it pointless in the end.
>yes i know more than sony engineersomg this general is comic
>>107789953I'm a Sony Engineer, can confirm this is marketing bullshit.
>>107789990This. Their masterpiece, the MDR-R10 is a techs monster and only a faithful replication like the Hifiman HE-R9 can provide the scientifically-proven techs to the unwashed masses.
>>107789990arguing with yourself (and losing) again?
>>107789953>bro it's AI, that makes it better than PGGB-RT>it's AI bro. we fed the upsample algo through chatgpt so that makes it extra gucci
>>107789964>yes i know more than sigmadelta engineerslaughing at your post/life
>>107790027where does upsampling fit into 'bit-perfect' playback?
>>107790317I fvcking KNEEL
>DSDshit>looks inside>it's just PCM with gender dysphoria
>>107790517is the DSD here with us in the thread right now
>>107790168sigmadelra chips upsample because engineers decided upsampling = techs. and you think your jobless ass knows better than professionals
The Jeet Mind Cannot Comprehend The Time Domain
>>107790562if anything, those 'r2r' dongles could be a downgrade from anything people normally use/can afford since the difference in sound is slower transient response, softer bass impact and noise floor issues with sensitive pos. don't be butthurt about facts
>>107790612Again, you believe you know better than the chip engineers who decided upsampling = techs over 20 years ago. And your credentials is being a NEET poster on 4chan.
Estrogen enhances listening experience
>time domain>transient>still not a single chart with time x axis
>>107790634>upsampling = techshow is that your mantra when you're obviously avoiding this point >>107789964 ? you can't name one thing you gain upsampling that was otherwise not there in the lower sampling rate.
>>107790686Why else would the (professional) engineers mandate upsampling in the chips if not techs?
>>107790709upsampling adds zero new information or transient speed, it only does noise shaping with cheaper analog filters. just tell me what you think the benefit is.
>>107790738I trust the engineers. Not a NEET 4chan poster.
>>107790746you can't even cite them. so you ARE arguing with yourself. I accept your concession.
>>10779075799% of chips upsample as a result of engineering decisions. I accept your concession.
>>107790832>"I trust the engineers">still can't name 1 benefityou thought you were cookin this whole time too
>>107790746Don't forget the original intention of using earphones is to enjoy music.
Upsampling is used because it's cheaper. 1 bit is used because it's cheaper. It's like SMPS vs linear power supply. Literally nothing to brag about, the opposite actually. Playing raw PCM with non dogshit quality still costs thousands of dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dCXhLgQVPg>kilobuck after EQholy zased
>>107790590Today I will remind them.
>>107791083>>1077908691. PCM63 doesn't cost thousands of dollars.2. Cheaper than what? What is upsampling cheaper than? There are NOS chips like TDA1541. But most are OS. This is intentional and you're acting like engineers didn't engineer it to begin with. I accept your concession.
>>107791110And EDC Pro is a Mega7 with EQ saaaar
>>107789949Zamn!
>>107791262>PCM63Lower quality than apple dongle. >What is upsampling cheaper than?Than not upsampling. A good hardware low pass filter for 44.1kHz is too expensive. Much cheaper to oversample, software low pass at 44.1KHz and then have a cheap hardware low pass somewhere in the MHz range. 1 bit is cheaper than 16 for self-evident reasons. >TDA1541It has 4x oversampling.>This is intentionalFor price reduction, yes.
>>107791320Oh and the way 1 bit works is through noise shaped dithering. Good in the audible range but 6dB SNR outside of it. Little ultrasonic hiss blasters lmao.
>>107789711The best part about R2R and tubes is knowing that their user doesn't EQ.
>>107791467The best part is they can't eq when using dsd.
>>107790634>upsampling = techs>$0 DACs are techs Nigga never heard techs in his entire life.
>>107791274it gets surprisingly close for $3 vs $450, especially in terms of tuning / frequency range balance, of course it doesn't have the same bass/treble extension though.
>>107788861New DAC day. Send playlists.
>>107791935Isn't the noise floor pretty meh on that thing?
>>107791745Price is inverse to sound quality ;)
>>107791935>>107791962should've bought an m15i.
>>107791894that is because mega7 is a dogshit scam try a real iem next time
>>107792488what's a real iem to you? I'll order it this weekend.
>>107792498obravo ra c cu
>>107792500it'll take 3 weeks to arrive, but okay, I will try this out, so far the mega7 has been the set I enjoyed the most as it works with all my music, every other TOTL is gimmick and only works with a few genres at most.
I'm considering getting the ibasso dx270
>>107791962lol
new pos just dropped i think its a game changerit even has an anime card in the box
>he spent more than 20 bucks on pos
>>107792526Update; I just finished work and did some more research, this thing is a meme/scam set and it's blatantly obvious, nice try anon lol, unfortunately there aren't any good all rounder sets, mega7's tuning seems to be the best at all rounding irrespective of price point.
>>107794246Nigga just get yourself a daybreak or a diablo, if you're willing to spend money on scams then you can get a decent mid priced set
>>107791935nice balls. i like mine too but find it could use more density and anchoring. transients/leading edges feel a bit naked on it. i guess its what people love about it though
>>107794373Obsoleted by EDC Pro + autoeq
>>107794394Kunten mogs edc pro and you know it lil cuck
I'm in love.
>>107794373I own a daybreak already, it's nice with EQ but after 15-20 minutes my ear starts to hurt and if I woefully ignore that the entire day; it will eventually bleed, idk why everything is made with such a fuckhuge nozzle.
Guidezo, you can filter out hps and download oratory data via AutoEQ's repo. Please update.https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/measurements/oratory1990/data/in-ear
>>107792498realest pos is EA500LM
>>107792450>ESS DACNo thanks, anon. Do you know of any good AKM DACs in a similar size?
What's the best iem discussion forum for me if I think apple dongle (EU) + $5 shitbuds eq'd to perfection is endgame, and that everyone who drives his iems with tube amps is mentally ill?
>>107793317love moondrop slop, not so good for my neck paint tho, heavy
>>107795137/r/hifiadvice>>107795124will buy this and EM6L next month, not in a hurry for shitgot stuff, I tried their ew300 once from a friend and it just sounded cheap.
Huawei FreeBuds 6i are surprisingly good for their price, I use it in an industrial environment and even then it removes almost all noise. Great battery life, case looks and feels premium. No glitches. My only comlaint is you have to download some snca Huawei app from their store if you want to update them. Also after a lomg time wearing them ears start to hurt (not as much as other earbuds I used but still)
i was gonna get a fiio warmer so >>107789711 would fuck off forever but decided i could use that money to buy an 8tb SSD instead.you lucked out this time, buddy.
>>107795153idk bout their hybrids.. apparently people really enjoy the sm4, but for a 1DD, EA500LM is plentiful in techs
looking for 4,4 to 2x3,5mm cable with plug that isnt so fucking slippery, can't unplug my shit because it sits so tight inside and handle part is so small and slippery. Any cable recomendation under 50USD ? With some sort of crosshatching or something like that on 4,4 plug
>>107796092wash your hands more. wipe down everything you touch..holy shit
>>107796092Weak ass hands tranny
>>107796156im drawing, it's a sweaty thing to do for fingers, i need some texture on my plugs
>>107796204get a razer and scratch some lines all over it then. there's your grip.
>>107796092
>>107788861Will the Aria 2 nozzle fit a Chu 2, can anyone confirm this? I heard that the Aria does not oxidize like the Chu does so I could just put the Aria nozzle on the Chu?
>>107796231>razor**many guitarists do the same thing with our guitar picks for the same reason. sweaty, slippery, etc. scratching lines into them solves that problem.
>>107796412>waste money on source that does nothing>buy shit transducers for poorfagsI will never understand this.
>>107796478there's a lot you don't understand. post your rig.
>>107796510Audiophool or poorfag, pick a struggle faggot.
>>107796231i was thinking about electrical tape but it usually leaks glue out of it. Texture like that would be perfect.>>107796411chink gave me 4,4 without any adapters to 6,5
>>107796519so post your rig, mr. no struggle>>107796536electrical tape won't do anything for grip. pic related is key. just scratch grip into the smooth plastic.
>>107796585No
>>107796478i thought you guys would like mojo 2 for its crossfeed and onboard eq? it has functions! and you can fondle its balls
>>107796478I dunno man. I sold my Monarch and Aria 2 and will sell the rest of my stuff except Moondrop Chu 2 and Tangzu wanker 2. Those 2 pos already covers most of the music I listen to anyways besides being expendable. The difference between me and /iemg/ is that I listen to music, /iemg/ is out here listening to equipment.
>>107796606that's what I thought.
>>107796720he baited you lol. he just proved he has nothing of his own and he's coping.
>>107796721You don't do much thinking.
>>107796740post rig or we accept your concession
>>107796720Why don't you sell your sources too and get an apple dongle or jcally for the full poorfag cosplay?>>107796806Too late, I already accepted your concession. Thanks for playing.
>>107795124is it worth buying ea500lm if you already have stellaris
Need an answer for >>107787313
>>107796852Yea, I plan on getting rid of my DACs like the ru7, the topping d70 pro, as well as the qudeliz if I can find it. I’ll keep the adi2 and the mojo, the smsl I need for speakers. But if anyone can answer the q in >>107796412 it would be helpful, thanks.
>>107796852>>107796740>>107796478>"I already accepted your concession">"I will never understand this.">"You don't do much thinking."well, that was a big nothing. congrats, you're useless to /iemg/
>>107796928ordering onahole from one of those cartoon child brands dont seem like a good idea
>>107796949/iemg/ is useless to /iemg/. That's why it lost
>>107796949At least I'm not selling snake oil like r2r and tubes.
>>107796919definitely. moondrop's planar from a few years ago doesn't hold a candle to any planar released lately. I would jump at the opportunity for a really good DD over that, any day
>>107796964Why not? It would be smooth and tight.
>>107796980Buy a fox dildo instead.
>>107796969neither am I, son.
>>107796980it's technically illegal where i live, if it looks the way i think it looks
KZ: retardsEPZ: pedophilesTanchjim: tranniesThoughts?
>>107792498Only fox IEM is real. Everything else is CGI.
>>107797045EDC pro enjoyers aren't retards, they just know this entire industry is a fashion industry and that it doesn't really get all that much better after just something like a good single DD; cadenza/ea500lm.
>>107797436Proved my point
>>107797451ok but fyi I don't own any kz products, I can just see the appeal of a cheap single DD that you can eq
>>107797493To a kz owner $5 isn't cheap, its actually very expensive.
>>107797436hey I agree too. value is where you personally get the most out of your gear. the dogma of "FR=everything" shows how the cope of not having anything good and not knowing shit about how audio works at the same time.
>>107797340>Blue - Tuning process frequency response: SPL (dB)>Green - Final (official) frequency response: SPL (dB)https://huihifi.com/evaluation/95fa0ef2-e93d-4f37-96db-cbbed36a2f73new meta cucks will look down at it because the 1.5k area can't be 0.2dB higher than the target
>>107797530Holy channel mismatch, EPZ does it again.
>>107797566blue is the prototype and green is the final, retard
R2R. Tubes. 5DD.Endgame.
>>107797581>they boosted the ear rapeHoly shit lmao, sorry I'm not a chink who can read troonrunes.
>>107797039wouldn't making tanchjim onaholes illegal just convince them to go after the real thing? doesn't make sense
>>107797511FR isn't everything. Otherwise you could EQ your 1DD to have as much subbass as a Luki.
Solved audio. AMA.
Thinks IEMs can change the position of instruments in a mix btw >>107797511Doesn't eq btw >>107797631
>>107797596I bet this sounds nice for a while, but if you're really chasing clean balanced sound (which I think is the ultimate as it pushes what this hobby is really about further; exploring new music - a balanced clean signature is best to hear art nicely) this clearly isn't the path, I'm glad I completely ignored the tubes/r2r memes.
>>107797658integrated EQ is something a newcomer won't understand the benefits/trade offs for, you should probably just mention that the bunny has an 8 or 5 band limit or whatever it is which is perfectly enough for most honestly, but people will always want more; edcpro.
>>107797663KZ attracts some truly special people.>>107797606He literally wrote what the lines mean...
>>107797340It's already out, but I'll wait for a discount.
>>107797615Stolen valor, EPZ is the official pedophile brand.
>>107797615maybe. i haven't looked at enough of the research or thought it about much. but as it is i wont order a tanchjim onahole and probably wouldnt anyway
>>107797658KZ has proprietary dongle peq now too.. whole chart flow is shit>>107797663>Thinks IEMs can change the position of instruments in a mix btwwhat are you hallucinating this time?
No matter how hard the jeets try, they can't autoeq their pos into a Luki. Objective hard fact.
>>107798009>autoeqGood morning, sir.
>>107797978tree lost yet again
How much would you pay for an official Tanchjim onahole?
How much would you pat for an official EPZ dildo?
>>107796720>iemg/ is out here listening to equipment.That's where you're wrong. We only look at graphs and shit on others pos
The jeet mind cannot comprehend no amount of FR measurements and manipulation could autoeq their pos to have as much subbass as a Luki.
The history of digital audio>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
>>107798864>digital audio starts with CD Saar...
>>107798837>>107798864The jeet can't comprehend audio.
are chifi brands really coming out with their own onaholes?
>>107798837What language is this?
doesn't eq btw >>107798837
thoughts on kinetic bass tech? it's patented or lots of iems would have it i think
Gigabrain tell me which is the best sub 50 buck IEM and why. I'll wait. Time to settle this debate once and for all.
>>107799497Tanchjim owners need them, they don't have sex.
>>107799579EDC Pro
Luki is the IEM that proves FR != errything
>>107798661They're frustrated and jealous that their peqdb cannot replicate a Luki.
>>107790317Soon brother.
>>107799729>>107799740>>107799746Good morning, sir.
>>107799579simgot ew200 but you need this 1.5k usd cable to take it to the next level
>>107790317>>107799754Luki, R2R and tubes is endgame for advanced EQers.
>>107800079/hpg/ lost. Let it go. You will never be an IEM user. DNA issue.
>>107800102lol
>>107797658thats a lot of words you can just remove the ones crossed with an x
>>107800073Holly shit are expensive cables on shitbuds the current meme? I don’t have my Blanche and Hulk now so I’ll sit this one out, eqtards won this time around. I do have the hulk mini but it’s not 2 pin so I can’t use it with the Tangzu Wanker 2 that I’ve been listening with recently.
>>107800205eqtards won every round. chartjeets will never recover
>>107800205Most of the cost in producing an IEM goes into the cable tbf. Not really a meme when it's the default state
Reminder that if you believe in techs, you must also believe in cable risers and teleportation tweaks.
>>107800526They do clearly
these has no right to sound this good.
>>107800526you're wrong and arguing with yourself.>>107800610samefag
>>107800832You cannot deny the statement. You can cry out to others or insult me, but the statement is bullet proof.
>>107800656What pos is that?
>>107800856
