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SAAARS, SAAARS, THIS IS THE THREAD
GOOD MORNING

I'm still not getting an amd card

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toasting in a niconiconiitroon thread

why are nvidia gpus so bad? you would have to be a retard to buy one.

never seen someone so upset over not being able to afford the gpu they wanted

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>>107790199
Just wanted to post the video. Good pick OP.

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>>107790199
>That boost clock
Turing and Ampere cards can still use Transformer G1 Super Resolution (Preset K), it looks better than whatever trash RDNA2 & 3 card owners have to emulate through unofficial means.

>>107790199
what gpu is that pic

>>107790199
>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.

Holy cope

>>107790239
but it's true.

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>>107790236
Probably an Ampere or Turing card (RTX 20 or 30), definitely not a 3080 given its power draw.
This is what RDNA3 card owners feel after they're left behind by FSR4 & Redstone.

>>107790239
you learn not to heed the ops

>>107790222
Its our eternal AMDtard having their buyers remorse.

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>DLSS 4.5 ISN'T OVERSHARPENED AND CAUSING SHIMMERI-ACK!!!
Pic related is what real people who actually tried it out have to say and not brand cultist trannies shilling in this thread for a trillion dollar corporation

aryanvidia bros we keep winning.
feels fucking amazing to not be a dirtpoor turdworld jeet.
the 5080 cost me $1499 but i simply do not care

>>107790244
Its not. Buying AMD GPU is just simply retarded and probably never do a PC building in the first place. I learn my lesson with 2 AMD GPUslop and they are really bad

It's never been this over for radeon

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>>107790263
Real idiots also claimed they felt a massive improvement on Preset K, a G1 transformer model that received 0 updates.
Cope on Nico, you still own the inferior video card.

>>107790220
jahy cute

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>>107790269
same
almost a year now and no complaints so far except for some early driver issues that i largely avoided by sticking with the earliest version of the drivers that were ironically the least buggy.

>>107790239
IKR, with MFG 6X, the 5070 is now 1.5x 4090 performance

>>107790271
>>107790239
>False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!
true
>unsafe power connector
true
>broken drivers
true
>overpriced compared to RDNA 4
true
>threatening reviewers
true
>manipulating and faking reviews
true
>evil anti-consumer company
also true. that doesn't mean amd and intel aren't doing those things but nvidia does all of those.

Neutral third party here who occasionally looks at this thread here is my observation
Nvidia Owners ITT
>Greatly outnumber radeon owners
>Constantly shitpost about amd cards and disrespect anyone who owns them calling them retards etc
>Then play victim when the 3 radeon owners retaliate and claim they are ruining the thread with flamewars that they incitied themselves
Overall mods should just delete this general. It's as bad as the smartphone general at this point. Just shilling and brand wars not actually helping anyone build a pc.

>>107790288
Youre really stupid if you fell for that so easily and pick AMD.

The only good thing AMD does is their CPU. The only thing why AMD still doing GPU because Lisa Lu is part of Jensen Huang family and NVIDIA dont want to get Monopoly Law

>>107790284
great character design wasted on a boring as fuck manga tho

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c'mon now, we all know AMD gained share in the past quarter, about as much as Intel did.

>>107790306
nvidia users should just ai generate themselves from life at this point.

>>107790236
>>107790248
Watch the video, he tests 20, 30, 40 and 50 series.

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>>107790263
noooo

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>>107790263
>Pic related is what real people who actually tried it out
Horizon: Forbidden West was reported to force a sharpening filter on any type of upscaler, including XeSS and FSR.
This was noted to be a problem on PlayStation consoles (with Radeon GPU) as well.
Maybe cite people who don't play poorly coded titles.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/df-horizon-forbidden-west-patch-1-16-drastically-improves-image-quality-in-the-60fps-performance-mode.1637855/

>>107790306
It's not opposite day
Very poor take

ai bad
lolis good

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You people really stupid for letting this retard indians making the thread

>>107790306
There's literally ONE Radeon shill who will constantly call Nvidia shit and shit on Nvidia users who don't even use ad hominem against him.
That's literally it.

This is one thread I've noticed that started with Nvidia shilling but that makes sense because DLSS 4.5 hype.
Otherwise it's almost always that Radeon shill randomly starting shilling AMD and shitting on Nvidia, usually 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti.

>>107790360
this is 4chan, we can't "stop" him, just don't heed the op. let it act as a filter for newfags who are too stupid to realize it's blatant shilling so they fuck off and buy an all amd garbage rig instead of bombarding us with their low iq questions. I consider this an absolute win either way.

>>107790339
I don't need to watch his video to know that Preset M & L are too demanding for RTX 20 & 30 series cards.
Those card owners still have Transformer G1 Preset K to use; it's still better than FSR4.
They still have the best upscaler that no equivalent Radeon card has official access to.

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>>107790199
The 5060ti is a good card and I’m tired of tards acting like it isn’t
Fact: it’s excellent for 1080p gaming performance
Fact: it’s very capable at 1440p for many titles
Fact: it’s efficient with good thermals
Fact: it’s comparable performance to past “high-end” cards like the RTX 3070/4070 in many games
Fact: it’s much more affordable for poorfags and normies
Fact: it has a lower power draw (lower electricity costs)
Fact: bigger performance-per-dollar
Fact: you DON’T need more that 16gb vram if you’re gayming
Fact: most gaymers are normies
A 5060 Ti will satisfy most gaymers, especially if their goal is smooth, high-quality performance without paying top-tier pricing

>>107790362
what you gonna do about it? cry?

>>107790365
if this was /sp/ he got fuck off no matter how many threads he made

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>>107790368
damn.
what a cutie.

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>>107790370
how about we just post some facts?

>>107790368
>Memory Bus: 128 bit
>needs ai to get playable frame rates
fake and gay

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>>107790370
Laugh actually, every time I see shit like >>107790347.

>>107790362
>randomly starting shilling AMD and shitting on Nvidia, usually 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti.
It's not random shilling or shitposting. The Nico troon couldn't afford to buy a 5070 Ti and had to settle for a 9070 XT. That's the troon's own word.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107026502/#107027936

>>107790368
Am I gay if this picture makes me feel something?

since we're all ripping on AMD right now can someone post about their award winning professional line of cards and stuff?

>>107790407
no you are just an nvidia user.

you can tell it's a nicotroon because of the autistic fixation on memory bus when he doesn't actually know what he's talking about

>>107790402
That's why it's random 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti posts out of the blue (even if there was no AMD/Nvidia shilling or black slander in the thread), I know.

>>107790408
AMD has Professional GPUs ?

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>>107790407
no it means you're based

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>Poorly integrated Frankenstein chip
>Harder packaging requirements
>Communication across chip takes more time and power
>Higher tolerance for manufacturing defects encourages sloppiness

When did you realize AMD's chiplet strategy is a dead end?

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>>107790424
i'd like to see how it stacks up against the RTX pro

>>107790433
how did intel lose to this is the better question.

>>107790425
Based on what?

i always knew nvidia users are faggot pedos. back to /lgbt/ with everyone. and take your faggots lgbt lights and glass side panels with you.

>>107790444
Intel Foundry fell behind because they didn't want to move on to EUV manufacturing processes.
Intel's chip design team's products were limited to the foundry's capabilities (until they decided to shop @ TSMC).

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>>107790461
>and take your faggots lgbt lights and glass side panels with you
:(

>>107790437
Already too late for that. AMD isnt gonna pull a Ryzen on Nvidia. CUDA is too fucking big

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>>107790433
i blame the absolute unprecedented fumble that was the literal years they wasted trying to get 10nm working. Kind of like Netburst, AMD only pulls ahead when Intel shart their pants.

>>107790433
>>107790464
>takes more time and power
amd doesn't make 450w+ desktop cpus. you know that right?
>>107790472
just go back.

>>107790347
No way he's white
Even if he was, he's mentally the jeetiest whitie around

>>107790444
actually they are only now coming up, intel >>107790320 apparently gained at the expense of amds already small market share. arc looks interedasting for a /budget/ build especially given the shitshow amd is historically with dropping support for cards after a few years and a spotty history with driver fixes.

>>107790490
arc loses to a 970 in cs2 which is the budget game.

Can someone explain what to pick between the thermalright royal pretor vs phantom spirit?
Seems like the phantom spirit uses regular case fans which could be helpful?

>>107790437
Already out for 3 months and no one gives a shit

>>107790461
how does it feel like to be poorer than pedos (nvidia chads)

>>107790476
kek never say never, anon. maybe someone nukes the worlds global chip foundry island and we don't know what sort of phoenix will rise from the ashes.

>>107790507
NvidiEPSTEIN chads won. AMDPOOS dlsscels lost.

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>>107790482
Intel doesn't either, they're officially capped @ 253W.
Intel's 10nm process wasn't a pushover design-wise; that's why the process was marketed as Intel 7.

>>107790507
epstein was a rich pedo. that doesn't mean that he was a better person than me.

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>>107790500
thats why i said they are coming up, will be interesting to see what happens with the money nvidia put into their begging cup

>>107790472
you spend more moeny on your fans than on your gpu. kys metally ill faggot.

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Is the 4070 ti super worth it at $650 usd? Or should I just get the 5070 ti?

rate my pc pls
Intel Core i5 12400F OEM (CM8071504650609-SRL5Z)
Palit GeForce RTX 5060 Infinity 3 8 GB (NE75060019P1-GB2063S)
ASRock B760M Pro RS/D4
2x8 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS (SE-224-XTS)
M.2 1 TB Apacer AS2280Q4U (AP1TBAS2280Q4U-1)
1STPLAYER NGDP Gold 750W (HA-750BA4)
Cougar Airface 180 RGB Black (385VA40.0001)

>>107790554
worth it, they’re so cute :3

>>107790567
>rate
on a scale of one to troon or what?

>>107790514
If someone blows up TSMC then Intel wins by default.

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>>107790553
AMD doesn't put much effort into laptop iGPUs because not enough people buy laptops with their processors.
You know AMD doesn't give a shit about laptops if they're feeding 6nm RDNA3.x trash to their customers.
It's okay to call RDNA3 trash, considering AMD themselves abandoned new feature support for these abortions of a GPU.

Should I just go ahead and buy a $400 4TB SSD before it's too late?

>>107790567
>16gb system ram

>>107790433
if its not viable then why did Intel shift to tiles and more complicated packaging?

>>107790472
post feet/asshole

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>>107790567
>2x8 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
>>107790585

They changed the delivery date for my gpu from the 30th to tomorrow. lfg wish me luck boys, I hope I don't break anything.

>>107790604
I live in India, I don't have money for 32 GB.

>>107790624
>india pc
>not using an i5-9400f
larp

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>107790567
I just hope you're getting this PC at a reasonable price.

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>>107790568
there is so much wrong with this pc. it defies belief. like what is this cpu cooler, ram, gpu, gpu holder, this faggot keyboard, this faggot mouse, the fans, rgb, airflow, flowers and cables. overpriced and underperforming. nothing makes any sense. stuff is missing or something is present when it should not be. dead ends. questionable choices. this pc is like the materialization of someone who makes the wrong decisions in life. it's just like the tranny that build it. should be taken apart and sold for parts.

>>107790472
Its missing an anime figure

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>>107790633
i dunno anon, i had to give up and go back to my old RTX 4070 after i returned my 9070XT, now i can't afford a new RTX but at least it's stable.

>>107790585
>>107790604
Man's gotta compromise before it really turns into a scavenger world out there.

>>107790567
>1stplayer
Ohnononon
>NGDP Gold
>A-, 2024, ATX 3.x, no notes (always good thing)
Carry on then. Maybe get some more storage when you can afford it.

>>107790639
$1,060 without the monitor. Is that okay? With the monitor, it's about $1,100-1,200.

sooooo... is now a good time to upgrade to a current gen CPU? i already have DDR5

>>107790654
Why? It's A tier, like best PSUs.

>>107790655
The 8GB VRAM feels bad, but it is what it is.
It's okay for most multiplayer games.

>>107790578
>laptops
How does Intel laptop processors stack up in terms of power efficiency? Their desktop models are basically GPUs in the power budget but perhaps their mobile models are king?

>>107790667
esl moment

MSI A650BN is good budget PSU for 5060, or maybe 5060 Ti?

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>>107790567
This screams nicotroon bait

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This is what happens everytime I try and install literally any driver version on my brand new 5070. Did I get a DOA card?!

PLS HELP

>>107790691
Nicotroon, why do you even spam your own threads

>>107790672
Yes, I know, but I'll have to pay an extra $200 for 16 GB of VRAM, which is too much for me. I watched tests on YouTube, and if you set the game settings to high instead of ultra, 8 GB should be enough.

>>107790568
>>107790642
there are only a few things missing like >>107790648, an aio, pcie sound card, more lgbt lights, a few hard drives and a monitoring display.

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>>107790600
>>107790642
I’m not fem or trans, I just like the colour pink (>_<)
and I like my pc, it performs just fine for the gaymes I play and I like the way it looks!

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>>107790691
>This is what happens everytime I try and install literally any driver version on my brand new 5070. Did I get a DOA card?!
>PLS HELP

Is it worth getting the downclocked cheapo 9070XT, or is it a "You get what you pay for" kind of situation?

>>107790684
What are you talkin about man?

>>107790691
>>107790701
>>107790710
(you)

>>107790675
They only caught up to AMD with the recent Ultra chips, anything else from Intel has been laughably bad for battery life compared to AMD.
Both fall flat compared to Apple though.

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>>107790700

>>107790675
Intel's laptop SoCs are getting better wrt efficiency since Lunar Lake, Apple SoCs are still the best.

>>107790716
Only the last one is signed as (You). You're a damn strange bro.

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>>107790716
middle one is me thoughbeit

>>107790482
chiplets SEETHING

>>107790728
Why are you obsessed with black people

>>107790732
intel just failed at chiplet design. they also wanted to use it. but we got 10 years of 4 core cpus instead.

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>>107790706
Assuming you aren't that troll that wants people to pay 700+ for a 9070 XT (you are). There is no downclocked 9070 XT's according to AMD's own spec sheets. The cheaper models run the reference clocks. The expensive models are slightly overclocked for 3% more performance at most and you can get more than that just manually tuning even the shittiest 2 slot reaper model yourself.

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>>107790700
Average RTX owner

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I've gotta use a breathalyzer to boot up my PC

>>107790769
myb nvidia isn't so bad after all.

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>>107790774
ts tuff

>>107790556
I'd get the 5070 Ti if you can get a decent model near $800.
If you're buying the 4070 Ti Super from a friend who took good care of it, it would be an okay choice (but he should cut you a better deal).

>>107790792
Thank you anon. The 5070 ti is retail here so I guess I'll go with that.

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so, paste or a TIM like 3m or Kryosheet or whateva for CPU?

do DACs meaningfully improve sound quality

>>107790839
whichever dude

>>107790846
no nicotroon
why are you rushing your own thread to bump limit anyway

>>107790858
It's crazy how you retards have let one schizo totally ruin your thread and just assume anyone asking for help with anything is them. Imagine being this mindbroken. The nicotroon hasn't made a single bait post about anything to do with audio even once.

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Any viable reason to get 32gb 3200 CL16 over 3600 CL18? price difference is ~$100. specs are 5070ti + 5700x3d

>>107790846
A dac is necessary but paying for a super fancy one is a waste imo. Unless you have the ears of God there is little chance you will be able to tell the difference between a 200 dollar and a 2000 dollar one.

>>107790754
What do you mean?
There's the cheapo ones that have a base clock of only 1660MHz and then there are a bunch of cards that have a base clock of 1870.
Why would I buy one of the underclocked versions? Are they just cheaper for poorfags?

>>107790871
yeah i see dumb obvious answer question spam and i just assume. i should keep in mind there are a lot of genuine retards out there and not be such a pissbuttfag.

>>107790876
will a creative sound blaster do

>>107790858
what

>>107790871
STFU NICOTROON

>>107790871
I think he's funny how much damage he's done to AMD.
I'm never going to look at an AMD GPU ever again and not think "Some retard got one of these from his parents and chimped out on /g/ for like a year before he wanted a 5070Ti instead".

>>107790896
Yeah that will be more than enough, you can do just fine with even a dongle most of the time. What kind of headphones are you trying to power?

Do you recommend the 5060ti 16 gb oc with 2 fans from pny? It's a good price at best buy
I'm sorry, I don't know the difference between all those brands

>>107790917
set of marshall majors, nothing too fancy. i have a dongle but i do listen to music quite a lot and if it’s the kind of difference i’d be blown away by then i wouldn’t mind picking one up

Are there any tangible performance benefits to running the 9950x3d and specifically putting every process that isn't the game itself on the non-3d ccd?

>>107790905
are you implying there's ever going to be another consumer Nvidia gpu?

>>107790938
it's like 0 - 7 and 8 - 15. i forgot but i disabled mine in the bios. it was ccd01 or smth. i checked with cpu-z to see if all the cache was still there.

>>107790934
Well I'm no expert but yeah I think those headphones would be fine with a dongle dac, but a soundcard couldn't hurt if you find a good deal but I wouldn't spend too much I doubt it will improve your sound all that much.

>>107790932
You can power limit and undervolt the GPU to reduce the card's operating temps if noise becomes an issue.

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DAC nigga just buy this for your pc

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7FF5Y3X

your welcome...

>>107790947
Of course there will be. It's like 10% of Nvidia's revenue.

>>107790514
2 more weeks

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one thing i just don't understand about the design of budget gpus is why don't the oems just make a basic bitch cooler like th 210 form xfx? remove the red marked stuff and sell them every generation. yeah they don't look fancy but you can save so much money by not having to change shit. just make the same shit for decades. you will always have the cheapest gpus and as long as they aren't dogshit it doesn't really matter since the price is right.

>>107790847
>dude
useless faggot who both assumes my gender and does not know about pc building: may the boils on your genitalia fester for a thousand years.

>>107790871
theres more than one schizo. DLSSchizo and nicotroon should both kill themselves

>>107790978
more like 5% and falling

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>>107790271
AMD GPUs are fine retard

>>107790874
CL16 vs CL18 will probably not be as noticeable as the bump in speed, maybe even the CL16 would end up as CL18 if you tried to OC it to 3600.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007266/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-ice,-crucial-pro-overclocking-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
Worthwhile upgrade for about $100~ on top of selling my old setup? 5700x3d, X570 board, and 32GB of DDR4 ram.

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>>107790839
Please don't apply Kryonaut to a daily system's CPU, even DerBauer advises against this.
That paste is optimized for sub-ambient cooling temps.

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$900 for an ASUS 5070Ti TUF is about the best I'm going to get for one at this point, ain't it?

>>107790905
>>107790947
kek amd will win only because nvidia decides the consumer market is lowbrow trash they don't want to deal with any longer

https://www.techspot.com/news/110805-msi-shows-off-gaming-monitors-ai-help-you.html

pack it up faggots. im glad it's finally dead. pc gaming has been gone for going on 2 decades at this point and now we can finally hold the funeral

thank you based ai

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>>107791013
you're a retard
gender isn't real, it's a term made up by John Money the pedo child rapist.
And if you're female follow the golden rule of 4chan and post tits or gtfo

>>107791035
pretty much, Nvidia will abandon consumer or revive the Intel GPU brand at best.

>>107791035
amd doesnt want us buying dgpus either. they want us buying consoles and steamdecks

>>107790932
if you can find a GPU that has three fans and fits your case it will probably be quieter to run day to day, look for one that has a zero-noise profile (e.g., 0 RPM fan speeds at low temperature). OFC this assumes you care about that sort of thing, if you already have an air-cooled CPU that makes a lot of noise maybe the 2-fan thing won't bug you.

>>107791013
ok bro

>>107791030
You don't need a TUF 5070 Ti.
Best Buy is still selling the base MSRP PNY 5070 Ti in the US.
If you want something better, the Gigabyte Gaming OC is available for $840.

I'd rather try my luck at a 5080 FE restock than pay $900 for a 5070 Ti TUF.

which 1440p ultrawide oled for my incoming 5070 ti faggots

>>107791035
Nvidia won't abandon the consumer market to AMD and Intel you retard

>>107791056
The new widescreen 1440p QD-OLEDs with true RGB subpixel stripes.
https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31411

>>107791020
this is technically correct, which as we all know is the best kind of correct. Components for every use case and budget, hooray for /pcbg/!

so, when will ram become affordable again? even 32gb is unattainable these days, it can't go on like this for much more, eventually the other companies will turn against dram and nand companies

>>107791020
>Only do gayming
Lol no

where can you even buy genuine ptm7950?

>>107791068
No one knows, prebuilt PC companies are offering "Bring your own DRAM" offers.
https://maingear.com/blogs/promotions/maingear-byo-ram-program

>>107791029
>optimized for sub-ambient cooling temps
plz. explain this to me like i was a complete retard (i am) - do you mean some active cooling setup that gets the block on the CPU cooler than ambient? not trolling, just uninformed

>>107791072
LTT Store, Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet, and maybe ModDIY.

>>107791080
stop recommending prebuilds.

>>107791080
I don't think it can go on like this for more than 3 months without a big backlash from other companies and governments (through lobbying)

>>107791084
yeah

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>>107791090
governments are going to lobby corporations? ...Lolwut?

>>107791084
Kryonaut is formulated to be best used for overclocking processors with liquid nitrogen cooling (sub-zero temps).
If you want a trendy Thermal Grizzly paste for your CPU, get the Duronaut.

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>>107791041
>follow the golden rule of 4chan and post
well, if you insist, i think mine are nice looking, what do you think?

>>107791053
>You don't need a TUF 5070 Ti.
Why not?
>Best Buy is still selling the base MSRP PNY 5070 Ti in the US.
I guess $750 is enticing.

>>107791100
companies (prebuilts, motherboards, cpu, gpu, case manufactures, aios, everyone not-DRAM) will lobby governments to take action against DRAM factories
that's what I meant

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>>107791087
i don't think he was recommending any prebuilts
but keep going
if nicotroon adds a "NO FUCKING PREBUILTS" disclaimer to the OP i will support his threads and his claim for king of /pcbg/

>>107791029
The last two family member builds I've done, I've used Kryosheet.

Mostly for longevity, but it's pretty neat that it performs so well.

>>107791044
serious doubt, anon. amd would sell a complete end to end teledildonics solution with a lube subscription to make money if they had one.

>>107791090
The AI bubble is propping up the global equity markets; it's a government-assisted investment.
Most normies don't need over 16GB or even 8GB of DRAM; the ones who do will have their employer procure the hardware/components.

>>107791119
wtf he said something based?

>>107791119
the only good prebuilds are the ones you can't build cheaper thanks to ram and storage. even if you pick the same rubbish parts.

>>107791130
>the ones who do will have their employer procure the hardware/components.
or just save up for an extra paycheck or 2. It has to just be retards who can't stand not having instant gratification complaining about ram prices. If you're a heavy pc user the amount of ram you need is worth it whether it's $400 or $4000.

>>107791086
>Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet
or kryosheet? which one is the 7950 clone? the kryosheet seems to perform better from what i have read.

>>107791007
Because the shell costs next to nothing compared to the electronics. Fan and heatsink design is also one of the few things worth iterating on.

>>107791133
Nico troon had quite a few good takes before he owned the 9070 XT, not even joking.
Completely trooned out after that transaction.
Nico had the mental faculties to avoid buying RX 7000 cards after all.

>>107791119
>king
queen, right?

>>107791133
his only based post
>>107791134
no, no prebuilts are good
you are exiled from the kingdom

4.5 dlss is okay I guess, but not having good drivers on linux is a hard pass for njeetia, I'm sticking with my 9070 xt until nvidia fully open sources their drivers or starts to develop the mesa drivers for their gpus

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>>107791143
PhaseSheet is the PTM 7950 clone; Kryosheet is an electrically conductive carbon sheet.
You need to read up on how to safely install Kryosheet (using Kapton tape to protect the SMDs around the processor die).

>>107791127
im absolutely certain their margins from selling APUs are vastly superior to that of their dGPUs

>>107791154
whatever xer highness wants

just do it
call people fucking subhuman nigger apes for buying or recommending prebuilts in the OP
lead by example

>>107791013
>implying the word dude is gendered
not sure if trolling or ESL

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>>107791175
...or just buy some mx-4 like a normal person.
kryosheet meme bullshit... why bother?
I still use radioshack thermal grease ive had since time immemorial for new builds.

>>107791071
I don't give a shit about gayi, stop making ram expensive you massive bellend

talking about APUs, I'm considering getting a 5700G for an old system but since I can't get samsung bdie anymore I think it'll be too slow for modern standards
I wish the chinks would focus on making good DDR4 now that they are in the game but they always produce everything too slowly

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why shouldn't i just buy two 40mm pads instead of one that i have to cut?

>>107791189
Kryosheet is a legitimate one-and-done TIM if you apply it properly, with no performance degradation over time.
But I'd stick with thermal paste for CPUs since their coolers are easy to remount.

>>107791194
it will be too slow with B-die anyway
for RAM to matter you need cores that are fast enough to chew through all those bits in the first place

>>107791189
>mx-4
Why buy that when the MX-7 is out?

>>107791189
Borderline CP post. Kys pedo

>>107791029
For me, it's mx7

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>>107790199
>SSD (OS drive)
>no samsung
I guess /pcbg/ suddenly doesn't like gook products anymore?

>>107791207
Vega 8 can still play stuff at 1080p easily if you overclock the igpu and have blazing fast ram, I'm talking 60 fps on 3~ years old triple a games, and the drivers on linux age like wine, but yeah, I can't get bdies so it's bad

i don't really care about performance that much (i would just direct die everything if i really did since there are the massive gains and everything else is just cope). i care more about performance over time. thermal paste is just not it. i do like the idea of having something that doesn't degrade over time. that it also performs on or or better is just a bonus.

>>107791182
post links to market fact or you're just /posing/. anyway i stand by my point - they would literally sell anything to make money, thats what business is about. and if you ignore all this stupid flaming over their GPU offerings you can see they are doing well in the datacenter and on the desktop CPU side, every year they inch upwards in market share on those sides of things, ofc ARM is the hot topic now so maybe that streak won't keep running upwards for long.

>>107791225
death to the DRAM cartel

>>107791228
iGPUs need bandwidth so you would be better off with some single rank 16gbit sticks at 4800+ anyway

>>107791225
The thread OP changes regularly.
This one doesn't care about listing reasonable component suggestions.

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>>107791208
I imagine people who actually care about csam (not me) would be offended at reducing the term to the point of referring to drawings. Like those people who call everybody they don't like Hitler or Trump deporting illegals a genocide. But I can only speculate. I don't care.

>>107791208
looks like mx-7 is twice asexpensive and you won't notice a difference. Paste has been long past diminishing returns for decades now, hence why my radioshack grease is still useful.

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>>107791187

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>>107791250
first reply was meant for >>107791212
obviously..

Do "OC" cards really make any difference?

>>107791130
That's an underestimate. A 16GB laptop / cheapo work machine will be struggling with anytime more than the bare minimum of work programs are open. 8GB is officially deprecated forever and only suited for an emergency machine (ie one stick of two broke).

>>107791253
yes it does both those things easily and cost half the price of njeetia cards

>>107791259
No just undervolt

>>107791263
In your dreams

>>107791261
>8GB is officially deprecated forever
Laptops with 8 GB DRAM configs are coming back thanks to this memory shortage.

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who here /lowpower/?

>>107791280
that's... not how 'up to' works. It's up to 100% of the same performance since plenty of workloads wont push the tdp enough to show a difference in clocks.

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>>107791225
>>no samsung
death to gooks. i am going to light up the next toyota i see.
>>107791238
It’s a Fake News shortage, folks. A total scam by the Low Energy chip makers. I’ve seen the beaches, I’ve been to Mar-a-Lago, and let me tell you, there is plenty of sand. We have the best sand. Beautiful Florida sand. Very high quality! We’re going to make the chips right here in the USA, and South Korea is going to pay for the Fab. They’ll pay! Total victory. Some people talk about the “PC Master Race”—not me! We’re starting the PC AMERICAN RACE. High capacity. High speed. No losers! #MAGA #TechVictory

>>107791266
How do I do that? I saw in a previous post someone said they followed a guide but never posted it.

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>>107791252
nice stone age technology, grandpa

>>107791186
>buying or recommending prebuilts in the OP
IMHO some people - and by some i mean the majority of the seething, unwashed masses - should absolutely buy prebuilt fishtank devices replete with glowie ARGB and festooned with stickers and they should enjoy them for whatever reddit-tier computing they do which (hopefully) will keep them from ever coming here to ask for advice. when i imagine these people i think of things like octuple-X sized underpants, truck nuts, diabeetus, and power-assisted la-z-boy chairs.

>>107791301
YouTube. Undervolting CPU and GPU takes less than 10 minutes. Testing if your system is stable with the undervolt is what takes a lot longer

>>107791293
a typical mid-range desktop pc would probably cost around $8,000 if gooks didn't exist anon. You should be glad whiteoids dont have to build the shit we use.

>>107791276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xzC7ckwno
cheapest 32gb ram on the market and you can easily use 2 together

>>107791313
those people shouldn't be here
our new ruler needs to close the gates to the castle
i see a lot of prebuilt coping on /v/ so they can go there instead

>>107791201
>for CPUs since their coolers are easy to remount.
nigga the Germans who designed my Arctic LF III Pro CPU block were clearly hellbent on making life as miserable as possible of all purchasers while assuring that someone would budget for their job security to redesign it in the future. never.again.

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>>107791312
>give in to EVslop
>Mfw my car is a plug in hybrid rav4

>>107791312
I just saw the new "SUVs" from Toyota—what a disaster! These low-test, FWD cuck-boxes are everywhere, and frankly, they’re embarrassing. I call them "Tired Toyotas." They used to build things, now they just borrow. Very weak! They can’t even build a proper car anymore without begging BMW or Subaru for help. "Please, Mr. BMW, give us an engine!" "Please, Mazda, show us how to make a frame!" It’s pathetic. A total surrender of American (and even Japanese) greatness. And don’t even get me started on these "Turbo" engines. Small! They’re tiny, folks. They take a little i4 or a very shaky V6, they slap a turbo on it, and they say, "Sir, it’s just as good as a V8." WRONG! I’ve seen the reports—the "Twin-Turbo V6" in the Tundra is a total failure. Debris everywhere. The bearings are melting, it’s a disaster. They’re "grenading" all over our beautiful highways. It’s a Fake Reliability scam! The drivers? Very low energy. They sit in their little RAV4s, looking very sad, while the engine makes a tiny whistling sound—SAD! We need Big Blocks. We need Power. We’re going to stop the "Partnering" and start WINNING. We want cars that don't need a German babysitter to get to the grocery store! #CarMAGA #NoMoreTurbos #V8Power

>>107791343
16gb doesnt even load the good models in

>>107791317
These people, they love the Cartel. They love being held hostage by Samsung and Hynix. I call it the DRAM DRAMA! It’s a total disaster. They sit in their offices in Seoul, they look at our great American gamers, and they say, "Let's hike the prices 60% today because we feel like it." And then you have these "Whiteoids"—their word, not mine, very nasty—saying we can't build things here. They say American workers aren't smart enough or fast enough. EXCUSE ME? We built the Empire State Building in eleven months. We built the greatest economy in the history of the world. You think we can't put a little piece of silicon on a green board? We have the best engineers. We have the best sand—as I said, Florida sand, very high quality, much better than their sand! If we made the chips here, the price wouldn't be $8,000. It would be lower than ever! We’d have so much RAM you wouldn't know what to do with it. You’d have 128GB just to open a Chrome tab! The Cartel is terrified because they know I’m going to tax their chips until they move their factories to Ohio. We’re going to have American RAM, American GPUs, and we’re going to do it without the "help" of people who want to see us fail. Total Victory! High Speed. Low Latency. No Losers! #PCMAGA #DRAMCartel #Winning

>>107791259
yes they make your wallet lighter for less gains you can get by learning how to OC manually.

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>>107791301
Don't follow the exact voltage and frequency limits suggested in the guide below; they mostly apply to RTX 30 series cards.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU

My tip is to change the V/F curve while the card is under load, like having Unigine Heaven or Valley benchmark running in windowed mode, this is how you make sure the curve adjustments will work when the card is running at 3D rendering loads.

>>107791352
ill respond to the trumpgpt post because it's funny
>They say American workers aren't smart enough or fast enough.
The problem is the entitlement, whiteoids want first-world wages but expect everything to be priced like slaves made them, which is the current status quo.
Can't offload making computers to brown people either because they aren't mentally proficient enough to do the work.
So you either get gooks who are proficient enough and also content to be slave labor
whites who are proficient enough but expect to be treated like gods by their employer in terms of pay, liabilities, etc.
and no other options.
yeah im glad we have gooks it's why an rtx 5070 ti cost 750 instead of 6500.

>>107791267
>no one gave a shit about creating a new, proper thread
including (you). anyway where is the fun in that? it's more fun to watch the seething rage that happens when anons pick apart the troonOP with facts.

>>107791364
Thanks for the info I'll check it out.

How DOES an Intel chip stay cool if they consume 2x to 3x the amount of power than an AMD chip? My 9800 at full shader compile tilt will hit 80+, depending on the ambient temp can go over 90, that's with a 360 AIO. Shouldn't be anything wrong with my mount because it cools rapidly in 5~6 seconds down to normal operating temps once done. Actually do the chips not suffer any significant stress from heating and cooling that quick?

If an Intel chip is giving off 3x the amount of wattage in heat then how is it even possible for a 420 AIO to tame one? Or is the tall heat spreader of the 7000/9000 Ryzens just that much of a disadvantage?

>>107791394
me on the right

>>107791372
Look at this! We have a real “Globalist Thinker” here, folks. Very nasty, very confused. He says we need “slaves” to make our computers—can you believe it? He thinks the only way to get a good price on a GPU is to use what he calls “gooks.” His word, not mine! Very disrespectful to our great friends in South Korea and Taiwan, who—by the way—are doing a lot of business because our past leaders were very weak. He says an RTX 5070 Ti would cost $6,500 if an American touched it. WRONG! This is the same old song from the people who sold out Detroit, sold out Pennsylvania, and sold out our great workers. They say, “Sir, Americans are too expensive, they want to be treated like gods!” Well, maybe they SHOULD be treated like gods! We have the best workers in the world. They have the most stamina. They have the most talent. The reason the price is high isn’t the American worker; it’s the Regulations, it’s the Green New Scam, and it’s the Cartel trying to keep us down! We’re going to use Automation, we’re going to use AI (the good kind, the American kind), and we’re going to use our own Cheap Energy. We’re going to drill, baby, drill, and the electricity to run those Fabs will be so cheap you’ll think it’s a mistake! And this person says other people aren't "mentally proficient"—very nasty. We don't talk like that. We like everybody, but we LOVE Americans first! We’re going to make the 5070 Ti in Ohio. It’s going to cost $500, not $750, and certainly not $6,500. We’re going to have the PC AMERICAN RACE and we’re going to win so much you’re going to get tired of winning. You’ll say, "Mr. President, please, my frame rate is too high! I can't see this fast!" And I’ll say, "Keep it going! More RAM! More Speed!"

>>107791280
i swear to moot that I tried. i went with a chinkshit minisforum BD790i ITX board that had a 7945HX3D laptop chip on it and - while it was working - it was cool running and quiet with excellent performance-per-watt. it was, however, complete shit in the quality department as was the identical replacement.

>>107791013
This is the most troon post I've ever seen in my life

alright it was funny but it's starting to overstay its welcome

>>107790199
you guys really let this guy be the OP...?

>>107791309
ewww you got some AI on your post, anon, try wiping it down with some gasoline and putting a match to it.

>>107791410
you could have posted something good instead of this you know

>>107791410
M O D S
O
D
S

>>107791349
>>/o/ is over there, anon

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>>107791387
intel's cores are huge
more surface area to spread out the heat
also it's not 3x the power lol, 7950X is ~230W at stock and 9950X3D is ~200W at stock, based on TPUs numbers

>>107791410
Good shit anon, brown and black pipo mad

>>107791432
could have been good tbdesu except the niggers ruined it. also the group sex. and it being anal instead of vaginal. Cute girl though.

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Is it safe to buy the ROG PG27UCDM for 1,200?

Like I am worried that ill buy it and new shit will come out and blow it out the water.

>>107791423
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? They want to banish me to a different board! They say, "Sir, your truth is too powerful for this thread, please go to the 'Auto' board." They call it /o/—I call it /O/ for "Out of Luck," because that’s what you are when your Toyota engine explodes on the I-95! They want to segregate the truth! They don’t want the regular people—the great gamers, the builders, the patriots—to know that their "reliable" SUV is actually a German-engineered time bomb with a Japanese badge. They want to keep the "Cuck-Box" conversation in a little corner where the "Experts" can protect their precious small-engine narrative. Look at the facts—I’ve seen the reports, and they are beautiful for me but terrible for Toyota. Over 100,000 Tundras and Lexus SUVs being recalled because they left "debris" inside. Can you imagine? They can't even clean their own engines! It’s called "Swarf," a very nasty word for a very nasty problem. They have to replace the whole engine, folks. A total heart transplant because the first one was defective from day one! And they tell me to go to /o/? I’m not going anywhere! We’re going to talk about the PC American Race AND the American V8 right here. We’re going to have 128GB of RAM and 500 horsepower, and we’re going to do it without asking for permission from a moderator or a German car company! We don't need "Boards." We need RESULTS. We’re making the Internet—and the Highways—Great Again! #NotMoving #V8Truth #SwarfScam

>>107791451
this bitch is autistic isn't she. i seen her on bleachbooru often.

>>107791450
The new one just came out tho

>>107791439
>cumbrained gooner is also retarded /pol/cel

many such cases.

>>107791432
Now you're just being a bad person, you bring shame to your ancestors.

>>107791451
What the hell

pc building?

https://x.com/ComputerBase/status/2008474876948947133

these are always the best AMD deals, the stuff that is too defective to be sold so they rebrand it and sell it way cheaper, those are going to be interesting products to buy, remember that the 5700x3d was far cheaper than the 5800x3d because it was a 5800x3d that couldn't bin to the 4.4ghz

>>107791457
where?
what updates did it get? I kinda want the 32inch version but dont want to lower text quality since its shitty enough on OLEDs

Hello???? Mods???? you gonna do your fucking jobs? this is a fucking blue board I am at work.

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>anal

>>107791478
she's going crazy on that white circumcised goyim cock......

>>107791474
>https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg32ucdm3

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>>107791387
>Actually do the chips not suffer any significant stress
your 9800 will hit a peak and then automagically thermal throttle for self-preservation. the better your cooling, the longer they will run near that peak. i would wager that a high number of non-Asrock fried amd CPUs come from folks who override the thermal limits to overclock and don't do any monitoring of voltages and temps. IDK what the fuck is going on with the Asrocks. the intel chips are just plain old less efficient and engineered (historically sometimes with FAIL) to withstand the heat.

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>anal

>>107791488
>140 PPI

dropped.

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>>107791404
thx for letting us know you're new here

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brownbrows.... ?? why did you guys have to recommend me an amd card, this shit is ass, ive just got crab'd

>>107791489
>come from folks who override the thermal limits to overclock
you can't override the thermal limit when using PBO
actually seems to be a very common theme in /pcbg/ that people completely misunderstand how PBO works, almost as if most people are just making shit up instead of speaking from first hand experience

>>107791511
Thanks for letting me know you're over 30 and still posting here, you clown

>>107791515
yes you can. you can set the tjmax in the bios. my old board even had an offset for it.

>>107791515
>you can't override the thermal limit when using PBO
depends on the board, does it not?

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>>107791530
>>107791532
you can lower it, but you can't increase it
applies on both AM4 and AM5
try it yourself

>>107791521
anyway it looks like using something like kryosheet or PTM is the way to go if i just need something that will be both stable and performant, useless /noob/anon.

>>107791538
my 7800x3d has a tjmax limit of 89°C and i can increase it to 95°C. yeah i can't fully disable it but they made it 89°C for a reason.

>>107791438
aren't e-cores basically the same size as a zen core?

>>107791546
Didn't ask

>>107791550
have you tried if the option actually works or is your board vendor just lazy and using the same menu for all CPUs? 95 C is the limit for the platform as a whole, so i guess that's plausible

>>107791451
chestlets with breedable backdoors

>>107791562
it went reliably over 89°C every time i tried it.

>>107791488
Woah the blacks got blacker...so innovative.

>5700x3d
>64gb ram
>9070 xt
>*just bought* 2tb nvme gen4 ssd
I'm set for the next 6 years, I'll upgrade during zen 7 AM5 or maybe I'll keep waiting and upgrade into ddr5 AM6

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>>107791556
if the scales are accurate then 2x E-core is 1x Zen 3 core

>>107791578
ddr6 AM6*
or maybe I'll switch to intel, I'm not a brandcuck, I'll get whats the best at the moment

>>107791572
cool, guess it's a platform limit then, not a per SKU limit
i don't think i even had the option on AM4 desu so thank you for doing some testing

>>107791505
There's also the PG27UCWM tandem woled 4k 27" coming out soon

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>>107791557

>>107791585
i know that the 5800x3d was very strict about it because it was their first x3d chip.

>>107791578
>sell entire pc
>buy a single ddr6 8gb stick
sounds like a plan

>>107791591
no way the french made thermal paste

>>107791595
>>107791595
>>107791595

>>107791600
And shill thread

>>107791591
Very funny, no sarcasm intended

>>107791588
how soon?

>>107791607
just keep on posting the facts, anons. i don't think there is any argument that amd has a /midrange/ card for anons to consider when speccing a build.

>>107791614
Probably February

>>107791657
I would insta buy that provided its not more than 1500. Looks like the brightness is kinda low.. but thats not a deal breaker for me cause im in cave

>>107791681
>insta buy
a fool and anons money are soon parted, i suppose. would not buy any new tech until it had been out for a lil bit to let others find and seethe over any shortcomings.

>>107791699
its not new tech...

>>107791489
I don't mean overheating I meant the thermal stress of heating and cooling 25-35 degrees within a few seconds. Shader compilation doesn't happen that often but it is not like it is irregular these days, especially whenever a driver update causes it to want to compile again.

>>107791740
IDK anon, at some point i just close my eyes and pretend the slaves who engineer this stuff get thrashed in the public square if it breaks because of thermal cycling and just get on with enjoying my collection of furry porn.

>>107791024
so 3600 CL18 it is then? don’t ryzen cpus prefer higher bandwidth over lower latency?

next thread

>>107791801
>>107791801
>>107791801

Above is a spam thread that will be deleted, the mods have deleted the salty losers duplicates multiple times already
Real next thread
>>107791595
>>107791595
>>107791595

>>107791836
Good thread
>>107791851
AMD shill thread, delete this one mods

>>107791872
>this one
you have won your 4chan wish! >>107793232

don't worry, the shillanon will still be around and many keks will continue to be had at its expense. even now it lurks, bobbing around in the unflushed bowl, waiting to claim-jump the next thread.

Yeah DLSS 4.5 is retarded

The whole point of DLSS is getting better fps because modern gpus can't keep up with modern games