>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Are adata ssds that bad bros? I keep only hearing negative shit about them, but storage is expensive, and they're more affordable than most brands, I just want a 1tb ssd to use as a secondary drive for storing unimportant but large files like AAA slop which I touch once per month

I still think we should add 2x24GB as a budget workstation option, in this market 2x32GB is getting to be painful.

>>107794238
with ram prices these days, 2x16gb is good enough for budget workstations

>>107794238
not linking the OPs post when suggesting you /noob/

I'm setting up top and front fans on ATX case. The power supply is located at the bottom of the case and vents through the bottom. I assume the fans on the top of the case should blow upward, should the fans in the front of the case blow outward or inward?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlIlFt2Fj1c&t=854s

INTEL WON

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>>107793940
>If you look into the archive and type in DELL 4080

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>was going to buy the pg27ucdm
>the day I was about to go down to microcenter the pg27ucwm was teased
>Release date: idk lmao sometime before June maybe and maybe not even in your region XD
Fuckin hell man. Should I even be a waitfag this time around?

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>>107794282
This is what Noctua recommends for a tower cooler
Your configuration may vary

people talk and glaze graphics all day, sure
but do people treat games like graphical wandering simulations?
I feel like I wouldn't care about graphics if the game play is ass anyway, as a gameplay enjoyer
but maybe it's because I'm not running a 5090 + 77" oled + 12k upscaling
maybe I would enjoy graphics then

>>107794322
>running a 5090 + 77" oled + 12k upscaling
you should /consoom/ and try it, anon

>>107794322
Graphics are cool as fuck when the game is actually good, runs really well and has a fantastic art direction. It turns an 8 or 9/10 into a 10/10. There are very few cases of this happening, usually it just turns a 5 or 6/10 into a 6.5-7/10.

>>107794322
at least for me the games i enjoy playing have ass graphics while the graphical games i "play" to test out my 5090 when it was new usually arent that fun

>>107794321
Interesting so the idea there would be to have a bit more positive case pressure.
Which way does the CPU Cooler blow in that configuration? Mine flows back to front of case when it's plugged in. Which to me seems backwards.

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>>107794278
>what do you have right now and what do you feel it is not enough to need to change?
picrel but in words:
>Asus X99 deluxe II
>i7 6800

I upgraded my GPU from an old 1080 and the new mix just dies when it starts any 3d and sometimes even 2d stuff. It barely even boots to OS.
This mobo has always been flaky as hell and even the 1080 had a lot of issues on this system.
The component that I'm definitely dumping is the mobo, I could reuse the CPU if I stayed on LGA-2011-3 though Xeon E5s are cheap and probably a little better so I don't really care about that, I feel like CPU isn't going to be a bottleneck either way.


full list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k4mN8Q

I guess I'm looking on recommendations for a good gaming mobo that can reuse my RAM and has a healthy serving of peripheral slots to handle everything else.

>>107794336
I could have before but now ran out of money and prices went up even more
will make the experiment with the 6090 era maybe

>>107794353
>Graphics are cool as fuck when the game is actually good
and when is that

>>107794359
>at least for me the games i enjoy playing have ass graphics
yeah... yeah

>>107794371
typical tower cooler configuration is front to back

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After witnessing a price increase of 7 euro I boughted the 5070, you won this one Jensen
I hope the order doesn't get cancelled

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https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/06/dell_52inch_monitor_four_screens_in_one/

>would

>Vincent (HDTVTest) said that the PG32UCDM3 had a regular old diamond shape subpixel structure (he was infront of the damn monitor on CES)
>Official asus site says it's V Stripe RGB
who fucked up here

whats a good woled 27 inch monitor right now? no qdoleds please

>>107794412
>benjamin franklin staring at you 247
>btc chart 247
oh he moneymaxxin

>>107794371
CPU cooler should be exhausting out the back, never the other way. you want intake and exhaust.

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>>107794423
the peegeetwentysevenueeceedoublejewemmgee (due Q2 2026)

>>107794399
Okay thanks. Looks like I'll need to remove the cooler and reverse the fans then. The coolers on the right orientation based on the one sided finger clips but the fans are working the wrong direction

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>>107794445
minus the gee, it had no gee

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>>107794322
>maybe I would enjoy graphics then
all that matters in graphics is render and raster + the art

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I give up, Jensen won. This went up 50 quid in the 5 minutes it was in my cart. There is no stopping njudea.

>>107794468
with any luck they will just crap out their GPU unit as a spinoff, wouldn't that be fun?

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>>107794468
You had no choice

>>107794468
DO NOT REDEEM THE 5090 SAAR

>>107794515
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS

I have a 5800x3d and 7900xtx. Would it be retarded to cram my stuff into an itx build like a fractal terra? Objectively I gain nothing besides aesthetics but it looks so cool

>>107794322
The issue is that as the boomer that work on these industries get older they realize that unless you have a certain level of visual smoothness you'll eyes will be way too fatigue and strain under any game and you'll lose interest very fast, is why Nvidia is obsessed with motion clarity, frame gen, pulsar IPS panel ,etc in order to retain their customer they somehow need to deliver an experience that the boomer that have expensive money can enjoy, the boomer that can afford a 5090 and an oled games on a oled tv and a controller while the gamer that cares about fps on their dota 2/cs2 can barely afford a low range AMD GPU like the 9060 xt let alone AAA games (which by the way suck which hurts nvidia too)

Personally even FSR4 was too blurry on movement and strained my eyes compared to DLSS 3.8 when i tested it and im not even that old

any 5070 tis to avoid?
I need to grab one quick, theyre selling out

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What am I missing out on by not using the NVIDIA APP?

Will it work on all my pirated games?

>>107794619
It's a retarded idea alright

>>107794445
>gayled
no

my psu fan is now a bit louder, even after cleaning out dust (the model is msi mag a650gl)

how concerned should I be?

>>107794644
>Will it work on all my pirated games?

Yes, for some games you may want to use DLSS Swapper or DLSS inspector though to be able to force DLSS 4.5, the nvidia app is actually decent if you ever want to use super resoluition to watch youtube/animu/porn in 4k on a 1440p monitor, it hold HDR autocalibration tools and if you are very autistic You can set your own upscaling presets like utlra quality (75%) or balanced ultra performance (40%) while regular quality is 67% and utlra performance is 33%

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So when will it be a good time to buy a monitor? Q2 2026?

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>>107794659
Jewfus confirms Pulsar2 360hz looks worse than 500hz oled
the best lcd has to offer has been officially cancelled
it's cooked, over, finito, donezo
it's over

>7800X3D
>5080
Would a 750W PSU be enough?

>>107794873
Huh?
Nvidia make monitors now?

>>107794880
not for long

>>107794880
5080 is a 420W card, 850 is plenty unless you're using like a 9950X3D

>>107794882
they make the pular2 new goysync module
pulsar2 hardwarelocked you need a nv gpu too

>>107794895
Meaning it would cause excessive wear on the PSU?

>>107794882
It's strobbing tech. This has existed for a long time. It looks bad because it looks like VRR flicker.

>>107794906
>These new G-SYNC displays are the first to be built in collaboration with MediaTek, enabling G-SYNC technologies to be incorporated directly into the display scaler, bypassing the need for dedicated G-SYNC modules. This streamlines production, making G-SYNC more accessible for monitor manufacturers, helping us bring G-SYNC technologies and displays to more consumers faster than ever before.
Pulsar is not a new module, it's a VVR standard.

>>107794906
They are IPS panels no? realistically they should be less expensive so produce than an oled

I fucking can't wait for the 6090 no matter the price
I've found my 4090 to be lacking and the 5090 is such a meager upgrade I have to feel cucked for even longer
Unbearable

So basically Nvidia
>Here's some technology we're releasing for free that lets your GPU generate frames in a way that's almost as good as native, your midrange card can now basically do 4K 60fps now
>Also we released some free technologies that make LCD displays look almost as good as OLEDs in motion so cheaper displays can hold up against expensive ones.

And you guys are mad and calling them Jewish???

>>107794959
>He thinks the 6090 is going to be a substantial upgrade
lmao the 6090 is going to be a 5090ti at best

Now that buying ram isn't a good idea and not knowing when the price increase will stop I decided to upgrade the CPU and GPU.

This is what i have now:Ryzen 5500
-Asus Prime B450M-K II
-DDR4 16GB 3200 MHz
-MSI GTX 1080 AERO
-Seasonic 850 W

What cpu and gpu should i buy to able to play at 1440p 60fps? I'm fine with used or something from the prevous gen.

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>>107794981
DLSS 4.5 its also really good for 1440p poorgaming, now you can upscale from 480p

>>107794997
Bro, you've waited this long and missed literally every chance to get a good upgrade for cheap. Why not just keep waiting?

>>107794930
ok so there is no dedicated module but the scaler which enables this shit is new from mediakek
same shit

>>107794950
599 starting price

>>107794981
>free technologies

>>107794981
But AMD will have an inferior version out in 2 years so take THAT NVIDIA.

>>107794990
5090 is the feature upgrade like the 3090
6090 will be the performance upgrade like the 4090

>>107795021
The verbage makes it fairly ambiguous as to if Pulsar is coming to other G-sync displays. It just states that the ones being released today are ones that also have that ambient light sensor on them.

Holy fuck all these OLED monitors that you can't buy in the US or are insane ripoffs.

>>107794880
its fine

>>107794990
It absolutely can't be worse than the 5090 "jump" (more like hop)

>>107795082
Consumer performance upgrades don't make the AI line go up and the bubble isn't bursting before the 6090 is finalized. 7090 is what you should /wait/ for

>>107794959
>nvidia cancels the 60 series
>promise to bring back beloved gpus from the past with AI features instead
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-hints-relaunching-older-gaming-gpus-new-technologies-future-of-graphics-is-neural-rendering/

You'll upscale from 480p and you will be happy

>>107795108
the trick is that the xx90/titan card is only a consumer card in name. it serves a dual purpose as a budget AI card and workstation card so nvidia never holds back on upgrades on those and will price them accordingly.

>>107795114
Nvidia has a monopoly on gaming, they won't turn down the easiest money there is

While waiting for this thing MO27Q28G for $600
(2k tandem woled)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0G631LBJT
(Which is now showing out of stock again the page, though my order still says January 20th-February)

this slop MO27U2-27 came down to $650
(4k 3rd gen qd-oled)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FDL8QKDW

I think I mentioned this yesterday or the day before.
Bit conflicted, the latter is 4k after all. I cannot find much detail on it, let alone a comparison between the two. That said the date for the latter is even further out so I'm probably not gonna go for it

>>107795114
Literally nobody was expecting 60 Series this year.
50 series isn't even a year old.

>>107795133
You dont need that much performance if you are using neural rendering and AI to upscale 480p to 4k, Samsung nodes from Amepere generation and 12gb of VRAM is the best gamers will get

>>107795114
People believe any headline. Jensen Huang wants to ride the AI line before it returns to the mean so he's hyping up AI and saying he's going to be AI-only for a while, but I doubt they're going to stay that way.

>>107794423
I have a Sony Bravia 8 II QD-OLED TV and it looks great, I don't know what everyone's issue is.

The fact that you can get a card with 32gb of vram for less than 3 grand (for the next few weeks at least) is criminal, you're literally stealing from poor Jensen with deals like that when gamers don't even need more than 8gb anyway

>>107794997
9070 and 5700X should suffice

>>107794455
release date?

>>107795114
People shouldn't hate this really
GPUs only got ridiculous precisely when they went on cutting edge nodes and fought wafers for DC shit.

Consumer GPUs need to decouple.

>>107794997
dont listen to that other retard recommending a 9070 with a 5700x as you''ll just get bottleneck, the 5700x bottlenecks a 5060 ti let alone a 5070 or 9070, if you want a aymd gpu get a 9060 XT 16gb at max anything more powerful than that or a 5060 ti will bottleneck a 5700x

hows the 5070ti aorus master?
I like the idea of it displaying the temps, or a little gif

How do you optimize your fan curves?

I just want to set one profile in the bios and forget it. If you have some sort of guide I'd love to check it.

>>107795244
Gigabytes GCC is a buggy mess
Tread carefully
The lcd on the x870e Aorus master x3d is precisely the reason why I didn't buy that board

>>107795114
3070 Mark II soon

>>107795095
>The verbage makes it fairly ambiguous as to if Pulsar is coming to other G-sync displays.
needs the new chip and controller to control the strobing and all garbage
so you are just saying even more pulsar monitors are coming out?
I mean

>>107795098
what

>>107795108
7090 will be a housefire wait for 8090

>>107795143
v stripe qdoled or rgb woled or bust at this point my kneegro

>>107795221
everyone said Q2

>>107795262
that's all you need anything else is bloat and fancontrol is a virus

>>107795278
damn, I still want to get a gigabyte because of the recessed power slot, any recommendations?

>>107795242
i’d be insane recommending a 5800x3d of all things and i ran a 5700x with my xt all year last year before swapping it out for a 9800x3d last month. unless op’s going for more cpu intensive titles the card will be doing most of the legwork anyway especially at 1440p

>>107795288
No idea about 5070ti clearance, sorry
I just thought I'd warn you since GCC was the worst thing about my 5090 Aorus master ice

>>107795288
All AIB software is a shitshow
It shouldn't be a huge consideration when picking a card.

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I have a 6800XT but I’m thinking it’s time to switch over to nvidia. I do 95% rendering ,CAD, and modeling and 5% gaming. And of the games I do play almost all of them are pre-2020.
Should I save up for the 5090s or is that overkill?
Otherwise I have an AMD cpu and 32GB of Ram

Most used programs:
Lumion
3dsmax
Blender
Rhino
Sketchup
Enscape
Davinci Resolve
Lightroom

I really don't know if I should shell out 3200€ for a 5090

>>107795312
5090 and 4090 are your only choices

>>107795297
thats because you are retarded, anon asked for 1440p 60fps, and said he wont upgrade anytime soon with the ram, why the fuck would you make him waste $200 extra on a 9070 instead of a 9060 XT if the best he can get is a 5700x at least post some benchmarks in which the 5700x is not bottlenecking the 9070 at 1440p

>>107794412
>129 pixels-per-inch,
Meh. Why not just slap 4x 27"@4K panels (163 PPI) on a VESA arm instead at that point? Actually why can't they just make one giant panel with that pixel density already if they can't do it at mid-sized monitor sizes (just glue'em together like they do with MicroLED modules)?

>>107795314
You're gonna be able to sell it for €5000 by summer if Nvidia really are ramping down consumer card production

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Hey bros, I've been looking to buy a 5060ti, but I've noticed that some models, such as gigabyte's non-max models, have a shorter pci connection. Can anyone tell me what the hell that implies and whether these models are recommended or should be avoided by all means?

>Tech board discussions
>White guy wants thing
>Openly posts about "wife said no"
Do people actually live like this? what goes on in that persons mind?
I cannot in my wildest dreams conjure up where that is defining decision being made on that opposite side
a disgust is triggered within me for a person I don't even know
tech related, just had to let that out

>>107795330
When a price increase is announced as being that certain, it usually doesn't happen because everyone who want the product are actually buying it at the current inflated price

>>107794414
>Vincent (HDTVTest) said that the PG32UCDM3 had a regular old diamond shape subpixel structure (he was infront of the damn monitor on CES)
>Official asus site says it's V Stripe RGB
>who fucked up here
ASUS. It's already confirmed the PG32UCDM3 still uses last year's Gen4 QD-OLED panel, just with the new more scratch-resistant BlackShield glossy coating that helps with ambient contrast instead:
https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1q63at6/pg32ucdm3_next_to_its_predecessor/
Only that 34" Ultrawide is getting the Gen5 RGB panel so far that we know of.

>>107795334
From the 50 series and onwards nvidia is using only 8 lanes on the PCI-express instead of 16, gigbayte just shorten de connector instead of disabling it like others manufacturers do, it has no impact performance wise unless you are on a PCI-Express 3.0 or you get the 8gb model which you should not get at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcYGH1Tqc0

>>107795339
>Do people actually live like this? what goes on in that persons mind?
It's shorthand for having had a discussion about how much of the household budget can be assigned to discretionary spending and coming up with a number that was less than the price of their gaming peripherals.

>>107795339
There are unironically a lot of guys who live out of cupboards because the traded all their free time and money for some pussy.

>>107795358
Oh, then why the hell is it slightly cheaper?

>>107794707
noise got super bad, had to shut it off
removed all cables, thankfully no burn marks
The following video was done on a sacrificial test board
https://litter.catbox.moe/cdyafvscdckllyth.mp4

>>107795339
Bro don't read home automation discussion forums
every other post they allude to how they "couldn't implement X because the wife said no, they had X until the wife said they couldn't have it anymore, they had to compromise on X because the wife couldn't bother
on the positive side there are the ones where they did X and the wife came around to it and started liking it
>haha happy wife happy life lole

it was kinda sickening

>>107795373
Gigabyte earlier cards had a problem with the thermal paste so no one is buying them in case is one of those, they claimed the issue is fixed though but its why you usually see them having discounted cards https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/1kg0efk/more_rtx_50_series_owners_report_thermal_gel/

>>107795312
can I have the 6800XT?

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>>107795339
>>Do people actually live like this?

>>107795401
I fucking hate cabinets so much.

>>107795401
He doesn't need a 5090 and 3 oled monitors to be happy, why do you?

>>107795393
>>107795373
Also people just prefer having the whole 16 lanes, other msrp models do have the full pcie 16 lanes even if only 8 are enabled

>>107795339
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor
This is unironically why big speakers look like furniture btw
I don't know why Speakers are the #1 thing they hate. I suspect they are threatened by the only thing that can be louder than them

>>107795318
>look up 4090
>$3200

Jesus Christ
>>107795399
Man a single new gpu costs more than my entire build plus every single upgrade I’ve done since 2016. I got my 6800xt for $600 and I thought that was insane

>>107795284
>v stripe qdoled or rgb woled or bust at this point my kneegro
Got any bets on if LG's new RGB OLED will finally equal (or surpass) the color volume of QD-OLED?
Will it suffer the same non-uniformity and viewing angle deficiencies of previous WOLED panels?

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>>107795284
>needs the new chip and controller to control the strobing and all garbage
There's no dedicated GSync Pulsar module, but monitor manufacturers have to source a specific Mediatek display scaler IC that supports Pulsar.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/mediatek-g-sync-displays/

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>>107795427
The next best is trying to find a 5080 at $1000 but that'll be hard
And it's a cucked card that should have 24GB to begin with

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>>107795424
To be fair I like the wood look of old speakers. Some had real veneer on the outside which looked great when clean and sealed

>>107795432
Any chance this tech makes it to cheap 180hz IPS panels that usually go for around $200? paying $600 for this when people were able to get OLED's for $399 on november seems retarded

>>107795326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cl45ylsGQA
well over 60 on most of the titles on there. you make it sound as if it’s some horribly imbalanced mishmash of parts while i was more into the upper bound of what he can achieve on his board, and obviously he can always scale down depending on his budget. goddamn dude what’s got your panties up in a bunch

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I'm still pissed the 5080 is only 16GB VRAM
I could take all the other cuckings but fucking over the VRAM was pure greed

>>107795427
4090 are like 1800€ in europe

>>107795432
It's HORSESHIT that Nvidia is able to lock this down to their GPUs only as its entirely Monitor-side hardware. What can actually stop End Users, Monitor OEMs, or AMD themselves from hacking support into Radeon cards?

>>107795447
they're launch msrp is only like $599 so they'll probably be around half that by November

>>107795451
>Shadowseven
brother those benchmarks are fake

>>107795401
Never marry a person who doesn't accept you have hobbies and a desire to do them.
This is one of the topics I'll go full /pol/ MRA on. If a guy ever tries to limit a woman spending her own time and money on interest and hobbies, he's a terrible abuser and she can do better.
If it's the other way around, the guy is a man child who needs to accept responsibility and not enjoy anything.
It legitimately drives me crazy.

>>107795452
What would you use that extra VRAM for, anon?

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now this is the video I was waiting for to drop
time for tv sperging

>>107794839
There is never a good time because a better one is always coming soon. The next best option is to buy what you can when you can and stop paying attention until you need a new one so you don't experience fomo.

>>107795489
Nothing
I just wanted 24gb gddr7 for $1000

>>107795461
>be first one to support something
>wahh your locking it down

>>107795452
They just like fucking over xx80 cards for fun
3080 was also supposed to be 20gb from the getgo

>>107795489
Generating AI pornography

>>107795515
What kind?

>>107795532
Nvidia fucking amd

>>107795468
well i don’t have any i can personally hand out now since i sold my 5700x last month but the one title i can vouch for in that video is cyberpunk, those frames there would handily drop to the 30s with ray tracing on. if anon’s interested in battlefield 6 then we’ll have some issue there since that title’s cpu heavy it seems

I wish finding cooling specifics wasnt so ass

>>107795401
What is a "Woge"?

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I ordered a pre built PC with a 5090 and an addtional 2x2TB SSD drives. I feel fucking dirty.

>>107795626
>A pre built that will only stay top of the line for one year

Rumaooo

>>107795661
Nvindians are not the sharpest tools in the shed.

>>107795285
>fancontrol is a virus
What do you mean?

>>107795284
>v stripe qdoled or rgb woled or bust at this point my kneegro
I'm not waiting 6 months for a monitor that they're actually gonna delay for another 6 months and then is gonna take another 3 months to come out in the US and then is gonna take another month to be actually in stock and delivered (and that really remains to be seen)

Can't believe people tried to make me think these were gonna be out Q1, that was impossible
XG27AQWMG this still doesn't even HAVE a US release date yet

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>>107795661
>>107795717

Does gpu cooling even matter?
Im looking between the windforce and the gaming on the 5070tis and there is like 120 euro difference, or 140 for the aorus master
I genuinely cant tell if its just set dressing or there is a meaningful difference in cooling or something

>DLSS was created because GPUs can't keep up with game performance demands
>latest DLSS 4.5 tanks your performance 10% or more

I swear this industry just fucking hates you lmao

>>107795751
probably depends on your case

>>107795661
>>107795717
Considering all you peasants can hope for now is a 3060 or some AMD trash with broken or no drivers... I think anon will be fine.

>>107795738
It can cause your fans to spin up so fast your PC takes flight and flies itself to a location where a hacker can swoop in and steal your RAM.

People are waking up from the qd oled meme. Many of the new panels at CES so far have been IPS

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i like windows 11

>>107795751
Not a whole lot honestly.
GPUs run very cool and efficient these days.

>>107795752
DLSS 4.5 tanks your performance by 10% or more on 20/30 series cards, 40/50 series are USUALLY sub 10%, but it's still a game by game basis, and you're also comparing the performance of DLSS 4 to DLSS 4.5, not DLSS 4.5 vs raw non-DLSS performance.

>>107795782
What do you like about it?

>>107794187
>4.5 mogs FSR
>4.5 L model gives competitive players 50-100+fps with useable ultra performance
>dynamic framegen possible game changer

Is it actually over for AMD? If this new dynamic framegen is good should we even be recommending them going forward?

>>107795509
It's not even support. Nvidia quite literally spearheaded this technology, just like with VRR in the old days. Nvidia does what AMDon't

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This price rise hype actually made me interested in PC gaming again. Just ordered my first build since nvidia 210. After lots of head scratching went with 9070xt, 5070ti is simply not worth almost 200$ extra for a mere 5 - 10 % improvement.

>>107795791
Whatever. A 10% hit is substantial. That's like a difference between a Ti and non-Ti card.

>you're also comparing the performance of DLSS 4 to DLSS 4.5
What else am I gonna compare it to lol

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Is it really over for us 9070xt buyers?

>>107795829
No, think of all the money you saved that you can spend on your HRT treatments instead! Yay!

>>107795816
...are you retarded?

You compare DLSS 4 to non-DLSS gameplay, but then you compare DLSS 4.5 to DLSS 4 and act all shocked when it's performing worse, when the WHOLE point of DLSS 4.5 is to look better than DLSS 4, not give you higher framerate than DLSS 4.


To be fair you need to compare both DLSS 4 and DLSS 4.5 to non-DLSS gameplay.

DLSS 4.5 will be higher FPS than non-DLSS, while looking superior to DLSS 4.

>>107795829
When I first started researching building my pc I fell for the propaganda and thought I was going to get an xt. Glad I took my time and finally wised up and went team green.

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>>107795799
>>107795829
stfu kill yourselfs shills
raster > your micropenis

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>>107795793
I like paint and the notepad better and also the settings menu and ease of access to everything. I like the mutiple desktops and better personalization options than in windows 10.

>>107795804
That's more correct
Nvidia made the shit, so they have it first
Nvidia is going to leave it up to VESA to standardize it as was done with VRR

>>107795752
You are supposed to use preset L and upscale from 540 p see >>107795007 it also really helps in CPU bottleneck situatioons involving hardware RT and pathtracing on mid-end hardware like a 5070, and for high end you run ultra performance on 4k which is 720p to 4k

>>107795851
>the notepad better
I'll give you this one.

>>107795401
>marry a women to which her only value is giving you pussy
>get left forced into situations like this
kek

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>>107795752
DLSS 4.5 Presets M and L were tuned for 4K DLSS Performance (M) or Ultra Performance (L).
You can't stop retards from running DLAA or Quality with those presets.
https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf

>>107795885
SHOW ME RASTER YOU CHINESE BEAN EATER

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waitCHADS we won

>>107795885
You're 100% the same retard that started that dumbfuck reddit thread.

Kill yourself, you're an obvious AMD shill assblasted by DLSS4.5 and making it your mission to sow as much disinformation on DLSS 4.5 as possible.

Preset M is the new default, yes it was tuned for performance, but if you're on a 40 or 50 series card it SHOULD be the new default no matter what setting you use (Quality, Balanced, Performance, Ultra Performance).

The only reason to use L is if you're doing 4k Ultra performance, otherwise if you're on 40/50 series, just use M for everything.

And just like before, some games will have issues with specific presets, if you notice issues, change to preset K, but you should be defaulting to M first.

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>>107794187
I'm wanting to build a personal RAID 10 volume for my Debian PC. I already have the 4 SSDs I want to use but what I'm looking for now is a drive enclosures. Most of the ones I find are either expensive as hell or are dubious chinkware that will probably bottleneck the hell out of performance. Any suggestions? This one seems ok from the reviews.
>https://www.adorama.com/qntr004.html

>>107795900
>The 1080ti will become the best card once more

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>>107795840
>don't compare DLSS to the previous version
retarded take

>DLSS isn't for performance gain
also retarded take. DLSS+FG whole point is to fake performance.

>DLSS 4.5 will be higher FPS than non-DLSS, while looking superior to DLSS 4.
see image lmao. might as well use native

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>>107795892
>'You're not supposed to use RTX features you paid for!'
Just because RDNA3 card owners don't use the trash FSR3, it doesn't mean people shouldn't use better upscalers.

>>107795858
I don't deny it looks better but is it worth 10-20 lower fps? Absolutely not. If people wanted fidelity they can just use native or DLAA.

>>107795905
>if you notice issues, change to preset K
So preset M is not the default, I accept your concession.

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>>107795900
Wonderful, now all us peons are granted a pittance to use while all the 50 series cards sit unused in a warehouse somewhere.

>>107795909
Spotted the retard right here.
4.5 model's improved where Preset M's 4K Performance mode looks better overall than Preset J/K's Balanced or Quality modes.

>>107795912
>Nvidia literally puts hardware on cards specifically to do these things
>It doesn't count because AMD can't do that.
They should disable the X3D cache when comparing intel CPUs to AMD CPUs.

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>>107795935
>>107795900
>>107795907
>We're going back to 1080Ti's, 3200mhz ram and HDD's.

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/

Is the AIO overkill? Should I go for a regular cooler?
I just want silent as possible cooling

>>107795976
pablo...

>>107795976
Fuck me

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/PQ3Pt3

>>107795906
I have the TR-002.

It's fine, but I had to replace the power supply to handle higher capacity HDDs (20TB+) since two of those intializing at once can draw 50w+ and it only has a 36w power supply, but I imagine the 4 bay version comes with a 70-90w power supply. If you wanted to do 4x20TB+ drives you'd probably need a power supply upgrade though, just FYI.

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>>107795976
>>107795987
Depends on how much you're sensitive to AIO pump noise and how hard you plan to run that 9800X3D.
You don't need an AIO for gaming loads; air coolers will run loud during shader precompilation and will be fine afterwards if you manually tune the fan curve.

>>107795909
Even DLSS 2 Performance at 4K often has better image quality than 4K Native TAA
You're showing a 30% performance boost with 4.5 so yes you'd have to be retard not to have access to DLSS, including the older versions such that you can balance performance and image quality the way you want it

>>107795921
If you have a 40 or 50 series card and a 1440p or 4k monitor try ultra performance mode with preset L, is unironically better than performance / balance with preset K, the issue is retards are either testin preset M or doing pathtracing cp benches forgetting rayreconstruction replaces preset M or K for preset E which is special for ray reconstruction , 60 FPS pathtracing experience is finally possible

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>9060xt 16gb
>Just works
>Play mainly older games
>But occasionally newer ones
>Can game at any settings I want

Dang. I'll finally move over to Nvidia the next time I upgrade.....about 40 years from now, but I am comfy with my purchase. I have literally thousands of games in my backlog and can use my GPU to edit and do 3d animations just fine. Peak comfy PC build. Literally all that's left is the 5800x3d CPU which will presumably come back given that AMD is now moving back to am4.

I voted for this btw.

>>107796052
>the issue is retards are either testin preset M
Because Preset M is the less computationally demanding model to run than Preset L.
Preset M + Performance or Balanced will look better than Preset K's Quality/DLAA.

Has the new Geforce app version with DLSS 4.5 be released yet?

I honestly don't notice any difference between actual 4k on a 27' and DLDSR 4k on a 27' 1440p monitor
That shit is black magic

>>107796064
9060 XT is all you need unless you play at meme resolutions.
It will be a card that's still viable a decade from now as long as you stick to 1080p/1440p.
AMD Fine Wine technology will likely improve its performance over time too.

>>107796078
Next week or later, you can participate in the beta to have access to it now.

>>107796077
now that's bullshit, K quality and especially DLAA still looks better but M performance is a very nice upgrade albeit oversharpened

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>>107795339
It feels sooo comfy not being married with kids.

>>107795900
I told you retards, upscaling from 540p on Ampere refresh with 12gb of vram is the future >>107795152, demands is just way too high for new gpus to keep using the top nodes from TSMC, and Ampere is made on samsung foundries which are not being used, we'll get a DDR4 and AM4 refresh at the rate things are going

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>>107796087
>9060 XT is all you need unless you play at meme resolutions.
The ultimate cope.
>as long as you stick to 1080p
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

>>107796103
>oversharpened
Opinion discarded, DLSS deprecated its built-in sharpener in late 2022.
Stop testing this on shitty titles that force the game devs' garbage sharpening filter.

>>107796080
I used to use DLDSR regularly when I had a 1440p monitor. It's excellent when combined with DLSS. 4K Performance has a slightly higher input resolution than 1440p Quality, and higher resolution reconstructions always look better anyway. You'll lose a couple of FPS because of DLDSR and sometimes it can be finicky (need exclusive fullscreen or you'll have to change desktop resolution), but overall an excellent tool in the box.

The main reason to upgrade monitor is for display technology (HDR, OLED) and text clarity. Also the real estate of 32" 4K is nice.

>>107796077
>>107796103
preset M is cucked, L is way bigger and cost way more but its also way better at upscaling lower res, both models improve dramatically when you use them from lower res, but L is just stupidly better

>>107796064
Good for you, not everyone is an enthusiast

>>107796121
4K is, and always will be, a meme.

>>107796089
Thanks. I'll wait.

I'm just going to be using Quality Preset M and enjoying it since I'm not using 3-generations-behind hardware at the entry level and crying about it not being as good as the bleeding edge.

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>'MUH OVERSHARPENED DLSS 4.5'
You faggots are a waste of life.

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>>107796131
>4K is, and always will be, a meme.
Just like a fish in a fishbowl insisting that the fishbowl is the best and the sea is a meme.

>bought a 5080
>4K OLED
Time to play My Winter Car.

Take the preset L and ultra-performance pills anons

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Let Lian Li cook

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>>107796165
me but I'm playing being a dik in 1080p

>>107796170
Internal resolution's too low if it's not upscaling to 4K.

>>107795944
>>107796021
>goalposts: MOVED

shameless

also you can't do math. the performance boost is only 10% while the performance loss to DLSS4 is 20%

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>>107796087
GPUs are not even made to game anymore, people just shitpost and generate AI porn and awtch porn at 4k resolution

>>107796173
why the slant fans though

>>107796064
I'm a big proponent of Nvidia cards for the feature set, but the 9600 XT isn't a bad card for a poorfag. To me the price difference between the 5060 Ti 16 GB and the 9600 XT isn't enough to justify the downgrade (5060 Ti has a little more brute force, not just the features), but the 9600 XT will likely age fairly well. Familiarize yourself with optiscaler, that's the best way to improve image quality, and pick up a cheap 1440p monitor if you don't already have one (preferably a fast VA with a high zone count miniLED backlight for HDR). Enjoy

>>107796125
Honestly I'd say OLED 1440p 27' at 360hz+ is the best middle ground
DLDSR works wonder and you lose like 5% performance at best
27' is already slightly too big for me honestly, I kinda miss 24' and noticed it when playing fps games where I now need to move my eyes a bit.
But anyway, when it comes to screen size and resolutions what actually matters the most are your distance from the screen and the PPI
Very high refresh rates feel insane on any kind of screen though

goddamn this nigger cant live with anyone thinking something non-positive about green brand

>>107796188
Unironically not anymore, ultra performance on a 1440p display looks like quality dlls using preset K see >>107795885
>>107795007

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>>107796190
We're not the same person.
Just stay in your Radeon lane.
So funny how Radeon card owners are obsessed with analyzing DLSS image quality & performance.

>>107796207
>meanwhile I have to squint to notice a difference between 4.0 quality and 4.5 quality

I think we've reached a point where only autistic tech enthusiasts notice a difference

>>107796131
I'm running 32" 4K OLED on a 4070 now and it's amazing. Nothing wrong with staying at lower resolutions or lesser panel types if you don't have the spare cash, but 4K has actually arrived. HDR is still arriving in my opinion but I'm enjoying it where I can

>>107796220
Because you're not looking at instances where Preset K falls apart, especially in motion (trailing/smearing objects & reticle).

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>>107796183
Have they finished the game yet? I havent touched it in a couple years

>>107796165
>>107796183
I will mostly browse web and play truck simulators lol. Maybe occasionally some more demanding titles. But it just feels good to have the best and at the rate im finishing new games, my build will last me a decade at least

>>107796229
Even my 4090 isn't enough for comfy 4k
Complete meme resolution

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would a 5060Ti bottleneck my R5 5600 for a 1080p setup

>>107796190
>what are lows

>what, you dont like upscaling from ntsc to 8k? what are you some sort of ayymd poornigger?

>>107796220
No you dont notice anything because the models were specifically trained to get exponentially better when upscaling from lower resolution, If you use M above performance mode image quality is roughly the same but with less ghosting and better temporal stability on motion but stasnd the old transformer was already good enough at reconstructing things at those presets, the new model bell and whistles is that now DLSS does not break apart even when your base resolution is much lower

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>>107796245
They mostly tested games that bottleneck GPUs @ 1440p.

>>107796197
Anon basically all pc parts are made in China.

2k ultrawide >>> 4k

>>107796200
>I now need to move my eyes a bit
Sit back from the monitor. The closer you are, the more framey it looks. That's one underlying reason that TV using console plebs are fine with 30 FPS but we superior PC users require higher framerates

>>107796197
Clearly to fit those two in there in a truncated length case while still having 3 front fans. If they were flat horizontal the front bottom fan would just be blowing into the shroud area. A hell of a lot more sensible and space efficient than the giant ramp scoop design for feeding the GPU, I prefer this.

The only suboptimal thing about this is the PSU flow design which looks like its pulling in from the rear and exhausting into the case. Why don't they make a PSU specifically for this case where it pulls from internal (filtered) case air and is a straight pass-through design right out the back? They're already willing to make funky 90 degree connector designs. Actually, where is this thing even getting its power from? Is the power socket right next to the fan? Or is it sharing a facing with the outputs on the hidden side?

>>107796245
Depends on the game but not that much, both lumen hardware RT and pathtracing are very heavy on the CPU but outside of that only CPU heavy games like battlefield 6 would show significant bottleneck

>>107796111
Hope it's worth it when you're being beaten by a jogger nursing home assistant in your old age.

>>107796312
Tons of old people with children die alone and forgotten by their offspring

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How do I get 5090 now? I wanted to get into stable diffusion, but don't have a back up if my 4090 dies...

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FSR 4.5 when?

>>107796275
My next monitor will probably be a 2160p UW QD-EL with a Pulsar equivalent. They don't exist right now.
t. 4K OLED enjoyer

5950x3d soon

>>107796328
Zero people without offspring die happy.

>>107796252
in 4 years when nvidia is selling the RTX 1080 TI and RTX TITAN X with dlss X that upscales ntsc images to 8k you'll laugh about this

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>>107795244
It's fine? I don't really use the LCD much because I uninstalled the annoying gigabyte software, but the card itself is great. Doesn't go past 60c undervolted and doesn't go past 63c with a decent overclock.

>>107796329
Kicking myself so hard I didn't get one when they were 2k for a while. Instead I'm stuck with a 5080 and I just know in a few years it won't have enough vram.

>>107796247
>goalposts: MOVED FURTHER

>>107796334
When Sony demands a new model, so probably with the launch of the PS6. But their new model will still be inferior to DLSS 4.5. AMD doesn't even have working FG yet

>>107796362
Just buy one now

>>107796334
UDNA launch 2nd half of 2027

>>107796367
>noooooo you can't interpret my image for yourseeeeeeelllllff

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>>107796334
When Sony needs it, unironically.

>>107796375
Can't afford it anymore. It's fine, I have spent most of my life with reduced graphics, I don't need more than medium settings and 60fps.

>>107796352
That's a projection and it's wrong to boot.

>>107796375
Not at double price. Even 3k is hard to consider. Not that you can find one from a decent brand for 3k to begin with. Might as well just get prebuilt with 5090 and swap it.
...actually, do people do that?

>>107796424
Whatever helps you cope, women get cats men get tech. At the end of the day you can't spoon your computer and your computer can't change your adult diapers and help you get in and out of the bath.

>>107796362
>>107796425
The 6090 will be out in about a year, the MSRP will be either 2500 or 3000 which would be a hefty price yes but an actual big upgrade from the actual generation. It's too late to pay extra for a 5090 when we're already halfway into the 5XXX's lifespan

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>>107796237
No not yet. There are currently 2 seasons completed and season 3 is 90% completed as of december this year.

>>107796240
I mostly play RPG's and romance games because I'm lonely and borderline house bound with no prospects to participate in society.

>>107796438
I don't even care about tech, I live without it the major part of my year. I'm glad I'm not so spiritually stunted I feel the need to have children just so they can wipe my ass, what a pathetic thought. You must be american.

>>107796446
>pic related
I feel so bad for normalfags. The shit you have to put up with and convince yourself you're winning is painful to watch.

>>107796461
You aren't able to conceptualize the future, I feel sorry for you.

>>107796438
>implying we won't have robot waifus to bathe us in 40 years

I won't lie, I have a TuF mobo and it just works.

>>107796480
For now.

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>>107796441
>The 6090 will be out in about a year, the MSRP will be either 2500 or 3000
I dunno anon. What makes you think that considering current market trends?

>>107796475
I definitely am and I know how limited and worthless a purely quantitative view on life is.
Read Cioran.

I caved about bought a 5070ti

>>107796493
Jensen wouldn't abandon gamers.

>>107796493
The market evolves incredibly fast, during the 3XXX shortage people thought they wouldn't get a GPU for a decade.
Prices will go up, that's the general trend, but it won't be as drastic as people think.

do you honestly think there will be a 60 series

>>107796526
Yes.

>>107796526
Yes. Anyone thinking it's going to be a massive upgrade and not just an even worse 4090 -> 5090 improvement are coping heavily though.

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>>107796490
h-huh

>>107796526
Of course, even if they just rebadge 50 series chips.

>>107796515
This. I remember a friend of mine bought a 3060 for $800 in 2021 thinking it was the last chance to get a GPU.
A month later the Micro Center near us had 100+ 3060s in stock for $290. People love to panic buy stuff. Don't believe the hype.

>>107796526
Yes. It will be launching in Q2 2027 and will have an average of 5-10% increases over the 50 series cards.... at double the 50 series MSRPs.

>>107796441
>The 6090 will be out in about a year,
Late 2027, so nearly two years.

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>>107796467
I'm a loser bro. I just can cope that it's due to my health rather than anything else but it's all the same in the end.

>>107796534
Nothing can be worse than the 4090>5090 jump

one thing is for certain i will not miss my chance to own an RTX 69

>>107796514
Long term (10 years), gaming will be pushed to the cloud on Nvidia servers. Not abandoned, but not supported in the way you think.

>>107796577
You're not even getting a vram upgrade with the 5090>6090 jump

>>107796568
Early 2027

>>107796515
But that was individuals for crypto. With this current run on GPUs being fueled by corporations, wouldn't you think it's more likely this time it at least lasts much longer? Same with prices; Corps will gladly pay 4k for a GPU.

>>107796534
>>107796565
New node, so expect significant increases. Also you can expect IOP increases and associated technologies so the cards will perform better in neural rendering.

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>buy a cable for $13 at moddiy.com
>find a similar cable for $3 at aliexpress the next day

>>107796618
Fuck. I feel for you. I don't know if I would ever recover...

>>107796541
>Cyptojeets setting up farms is the same as a trillion dollar scam that Nvidia themselves are at the center of and is propped up the US government

>>107796603
Supply will fit the demand, we are nowhere near a resource scarcity yet. It'll get more expensive that's for sure but what we're going through right now is a price spike because the market has yet to adjust.

>>107796612
>you can expect IOP increases
TOP* increases

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>>107796577
>>107796596
You're getting a huge price jump though. That's something at least!

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9950x32d-confirmed-dual-3d-v-cache-cpu-is-coming
you faggots lied, its coming after all

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>he thinks the 6090 is going to be a worthwhile upgrade and not just a 5090 card that generates fake frames even better with 60 series exclusive dlss

>>107796639
how do i undervolt prices

>>107796632
Scarcity is the expectattion though, isn't it? Again, the corps can afford to cut deals like that, and it'll trickle down in tue form of higher prices and less availability. Or is that the point you're making, and it's a matter of seeing how/when that actually occurs?

>>107796674
>bought a 4090 for $900 off some retard panic selling before the 5090 got announced
Feels good man.

>>107796674
as long as it draws a sane amount of power and not something rivaling my oven

>>107796672
Honestly what's the use case?
A 9800x3d doesnt even go above 40% usage in 1440p in any game today aside from modded skyrim maybe.

>>107796173
what the fuck is that shit

waitfags just keep losing lmao
I really hope they upgraded this gen, things will only get worse from now on

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>>107796328
I'm gonna be young forever

>>107796686
Scarcity is the expectation long-term, it's not near enough to affect prices at the moment. The industry just isn't outputting enough to fit the demand.

>>107796700
>>107796672
How good is a 9900X3D compared to a 9800X3D for gaming?
Kind of wish I looked at that. I dismissed 9950X3D since I don't do 3d modeling/graphics arts

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>>107796284

>>107796674
https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/inside-the-nvidia-rubin-platform-six-new-chips-one-ai-supercomputer/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1q5datg/a_discussion_on_the_announced_specs_of_rubin_vs/

buycucks are terrified their shitty 5090 they just spent double msrp on is going to be completely invalidated in a year, waitchads stay winning.

>>107796727
The 9800X3D is better for gaming. Cache on one die over the full 8 cores

>>107796727
Honestly if you have an am4 board with a 5700 or 5800x3d there’s no point in upgrading if you’re only using it for gaming

>>107796714
Once you hit late 30s you want to die
I was 35: I feel great
Then late 36: just kill me already

Two years later it's still the same but more suffering
Why did my body decide to say "fuck you" once I hit 35, I literally was feeling like the top of the world
Fuck genetics and haplo meres or w/e part of DNA/RNA that makes you age

>>107796173
>lian li is about to drop 4 more cases with the glass subwoofer front panel
Lancool 217 not retarded version is gonna be their last case without the glass mirror with fan carved front panel

sea of radioactive TRVTHbalt coming up
>the 5090 is the last xx90 series card we will see, Jewsen realized that a lot of professionals simply buy the 5090 instead of the RTX PRO cards and he ain't taking it well
>from this point on the bleeding edge nodes will be reserved exclusively for datacenter deals, goycattle are gonna still pay out the ass for inferior nodes so they don't see a reason to keep them on the newest tech
>chong memory and ssd's are gonna be banned from import to keep the profits of western companies artificially inflated
>the chinks will surpass intlel, tsmc and samshit in node density within 10 years, not like it matters because chink silicon is le heckin eeeeeevil and a national security risk so you won't be able to buy it.
>when the hardware bubble inevitably pops all the companies are gonna get bailed out by the taxpayer :)

>>107796754
Lift some weights and eat right, faggot.

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>>107796672
This doesn't solve cross-CCD latency.

>>107796754
damn, I have only 2 more years???

>>107796672
>stay tuned
kek

>>107796770
I was doing that. I have been never overweight in my life.
I had 3 health scares right after turning 35. Heart - SVT , had ablation. Then GI issue that was never diagnosed, lasted 2 months. Now I have skeletal muscular issues that is going on 3 months, has to be related to my posture (thanks work) and probably low dopamine(genetic, my family is all on antidepressants bc by mid 40s we start feeling pain amplified)
I'm on month 2 of supplements bc I don't want to be on antidepressants, I hate the idea of it, and saffron has apparently been an alternative to SSRI.
Thanks for reading my blog and I'm glad it's the end of the thread.

>>107796718
Wouldn't that directly affect a potential 60xx series, with scarcity carrying over? Or do you think that material scarcity won't occur, just product scarcity?

>>107796813
Material scarcity won't occur soon enough to be a problem for 6XXX, there is still plenty of silicon (among other resources)

>>107796809
Based SSRI avoider. If there is one thing I've learned in my life, it's that prescription drugs are poison. They improve one problem while quietly dealing systemic damage that exacerbates or sows the seeds for half a dozen other issues. It's like a double-edged sword except it stabs you 5 times each time you use it once.

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I find it weird how the upscaling removes the black outline on objects in borderlands

dlss performance on the right vs dlaa on the right

i think its a good guess considering nvidia is making a frightening amount of cash from ai
theres a high chance that rtx 6000 gets delayed to 2028
next gen consoles as well wont be surprised if it gets delayed too

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>>107796886
Am I retarded or something, cause to me both of these look like they have black outlines. Maybe the outlines on the left are a bit thinner, but still.

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>>107796917
Look at the trees I guess
But looking at my pics I guess the compression kinda fucked it up

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>>107796885
Same. But I may have to cave in if this skeletal muscular pain doesn't go away. It really is hampering my entire life and makes me a cranky old man at 38. Pain really eats away at you.

Also I'm 6'5" so you can imagine my issues with ergonomics

wtf is that op

>>107796842
Do you think 60xx will get pushed back and those materials will be used for more 50xx, considering the amount of money nvidia is likely making off of current offerings?
>>107796893
Consoles will absolutely get delayed. Sony will likely attempt the already rumored handheld device, possibly offer a comparably stripped down PS5 (similar to the budget console they released in Japan) and is likely to port more of their games to Steam sooner that they originally planned. MS will do what the did with ASUS; license the brand to others in the hardware scene. Likely cutting deals with Alienware and suchlike directly, but also having Dell (and suchlike)-branded hardware that is advertised as "game ready/capable". Basically not just a company's gaming line, but also their typical consumer offerings having some degree of Xbox branding. You can expect both to "remind" you of their cloud services as well.

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I can't even find PCIE 3.0 M.2 SSDs for cheap. Or are they just expensive now because they are old? I had a 2tb one selected that was coming back as $700+. This hobby is doomed

>>107794232
Relax, use it. I have ssds that are from 10-15 years ago, still on 75-76% good