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>>107799920No they arent. Its mostly Americans... and somehow Israel.I have the data leak. But i wouldnt post it here for obvious reasons.
feels nice to be free from the jeet ops for at least the next 2 days...
>>107800006Why would the OP omit the 9800x3d?
>>107800029im not op but i assume because it's just not sensible when the 7800x3d brings 92% of the performance for like 75% of the price.
>>107800039It's a viable budget option, but the 9800x3d runs cooler and boosts higher.
>>107800039I just copy paste the thread since the pajeet faggot might hijack this general again
nvidia features dont work on linux or mac
>>107800055Nah that wasnt me
>>107800045sure but boosting higher and running cooler still amounts to only 8% performance for a significant price hike. That's just not a great value. Gotta be my assumption tho, like i said i didnt make the op. If you want a 9800x3d because "it's the best" go for it but i dont think we need the op recommending people subpar value parts for that. Someone like that doesn't even need to be given recs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/Ald3Zsr25fNvidia drivers bad now
Why does this build make this general seethe?
>>107800082>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/Ald3Zsr25fnice self-reporting brownbro
>>107800086im literally seething now reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>107800086No idea. Me, I'd go with a better cooler, but it's probably OK.
>>107800086Looks goodBut the price of 32GB 6000MT 30CL ram being higher than the 9800x3d physically hurts.
>>107800096What cooler would you go with?
>>107800086my build has that ssd and psu and gpu but everything else is different.i'd say it's pretty alright for what it is. a shame to settle for the bare minimum ram capacity on a 3kusd build but that's how it is now.
>>107799639But the 5070 generally performs better than the 5060Ti doesn't it? How important is that extra 4GB of VRAM
>>107800103Just a basic 360mm AIO. For like another $30-$40, you get a lot more cooling. But, I'm paranoid about PC temps. Your results may vary,
Good morning sir im in india an me need a pc for gaming budged is $300 thank sir
CES has been SO FUCKING SHIT
>>107800122check out a used steam deck
>>107800113Doesn't matter much YET but might matter a lot when it comes to futureproofing. Although the current dram shenanigans means the devs might be forced to learn to optimize so that 12 GB could be sufficient for a long time. Otherwisei it's just Jewidia pushing you to get the TI for 16gigs.
>>107800122>$300Watch out everybody we got a Dr. Brahmin Funbucks over here. Good morning sir I believe I can get you an i5-8400f, gtx geforce 1030 and 8gigabytes of ddr sdram for this price. Please send the funds now.
>>107800086because it's a terrible build for the price?
>>107800105its only bare minimum if you are a retard and run windows 11 though
>>107800140build looks fine imoi assume you're not up to date on current pricing
bullying amdrones is boring nowi hope intel's new shit is good
>>107800122Redeem the raspberry pi
hory shiet nvidia won again
>>107800029He's got his own retarded biases and caters to utterly retarded poorfags
>>107800158>Winlel 11
>>107800086looks good but the only 2 memes are>thermalright coolerokay its a semi-meme>NZXT PSUnot a meme, that brand is DOGSHIT bro, buy a seasonic gx-1000 on woot if not already gone, like literal garbage PSUotherwise its fine
>>107800214>not a meme, that brand is DOGSHIT bro, buy a seasonic gx-1000 on woot if not already gone, like literal garbage PSUthey don't make psu's retard, it's a perfectly fine CWT unit. Outed yourself as a brandfag though.
i blame linus, steve, and jay for poorly educating zoomers about computersbring back ncix and logan and not the tranny abomination he has become
>>107800147Yea it's like punching a toddler at this point.
dlss 4.5 might be oversharpened but it is actually insane how well smaller details are preserved
Please stop me from pulling the trigger on picrelCrazy how there's absolutely 0 (zero) sales on low end 120hz~180hz 1440p monitorsThis low end 4K is currently 20% cheaper than pretty much all of them, but I'd be locked to 60hzI never experienced 120hz+ btw, am I missing out too much? Should I keep waiting?
>Bought 32gb DDR4 ram for $60>Sell 16gb DDR4 ram for $20Im a fucking idiot. I should bought 64gb ram instead.
>>1078002604K is a waste.Find a 2K monitor with at least 100hz minimum. 144hz is nice but more than that is unnessecary
guys should i grind item drops on cs2 so i can buy a steam machine? im assuming ill need around 800 drops. how long would that even take
>>107800284jesus man just get a job
>>107800278Perhaps, but 1440p doesn't scale linearly from 1080p. Without a spare 1080p with equivalent image quality, 1440p can be counterproductive for legacy support and video playback.
i think im going to use preset m with dlaa and 4x fg from now on
>>107800309hell no. imagine having one life to live and working for the man.
>>107800325people like you are genuinely sad. i'm not joking. i actually feel bad for you.
>>107800235yes the vendor nzxt likes to use cheaps the fuck outspotted the upset retardPS i don't own a Seasonic, I just knew that woot deal was $150 and a much better product
>>107800315Nah you can just play 1080p videos just fine
My AMD cpu is always hot as you can tell.Sometimes, the graphics driver crashes or something, and whole screen blacks out and the windows come back like they were from windows 7. Restarting fixes.I underclocked and undervolted my GPU which kinda helped.And i was thinking of getting an entirly new computer in april/may, but in the mean time would getting a different CPU fan be worthwhile or fix a lot of things?
>>107800006Did Seasonic just discontinue all their lower-level Prime PSUs? I just want an 850 watt gold but the only thing available anywhere are 1200 watt+ titanium psus.Also for a Noctua cooler is it better to have two fans or two towers?
>>107800338you should look up reviews because by calling a good psu you shitty you just look retarded to people who know things
remember that dlss quality at 1440p is 1707x960 or less than 1080p
It's totally insane my £1700 PC costs £2400 nowI built this shit 3 months ago
>>107800364and?
>>107800360China wall is good for its mid ass price point. Why buy a rebrand under NZXT when you can get better for cheaper? Also nzxt warranty sucks assSeems like YOU don't know
>>107800373you're better off just running native 1080p or dlaa 1080p instead of some retarded resolution that doesnt play nice with videos
>>107800355
>>107800355Basically yesNo 3.x ATX Prime under 1300w iirc
>>107800382you don't know what you're talking about
>>107800382but that looked worse and dlaa has less frames dlss 4.5 ultraperformance works amazing on my 3060
>>107800389You didn't read - PRIME this thread is illiterate tonight
can someone please explain what the hell all these presets are
>>107800405See >>107800401Illiterates, the lot of you. Use AI at this point if you're that brain cooked.
>>107800411k I'll just use AI and post it here for later reference
>>107800405Don't anon they make mustard gas
qube 500 case is a really nice case and is super fun to build in haven't heard anyone talk about it. comes in pieces and you have to put it together while building it really fun and makes building way easier.
>>107800246Why all the doom and gloom? We are living during the spin up of one of the greatest computing periods humans have ever seen
I paid $135.This kills the waitfag.
ok i'm back the AI lied to me and made shit up
>>107800442what you put it together like before attaching the side panels
>>107800260Absolutely do not buy a 60 Hz monitor
>>107800442Neat. Shame about the cooling limitations.
https://x.com/BlooHook/status/2008744270849864166/We are in a post-resolution world
>>107800447i read one too many stupid questions today
I can 100% guarantee that AMD is finished They've got nothing left
>>107800382Dont care. 4K is a meme. 1080p too blocky. 2K Good
AHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAMAHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAMAHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAMAHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAMAHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAM
>>107800489Buy it!™
>>107800471But whos gonna prevent antitrust from breaking nvidia if amd isnt around to ""compete"" with gpusnvidia owns part of intel
>>107800459is path tracing even worth it ouside of screenshots?
>>107800006>tfw girl raises her arms over her head to grab the headboard>nut immediately>she makes fun of you for your pit fetishFeels bad man. On that note, thoughts on pic related? I need a transportable ITX case and it seems fine. It would need to house a 5800X3D and a 6950XT.
>>107800506It looks fantastic in cyberpunk especially in HDR.
I feel pretty comfy with my Series X (bought for $400 during a sale) and Haswell-era ThinkCentre shitbox that I got for Valve titles. Was actually considering building a mid-range PC but I guess I was too late.I do wonder though, is part of the whole price-gouging operation (besides AI) to get people over on consoles again so that more control can be exerted on users? Is that reasonable?
>>107800489Indogs here. Same man. I should fucking buy 64gb instead of 32gb 4 motnhs ago.I bought this ram for only Rp 900.000 Now its a fucking Rp 5.000.000
https://youtu.be/WsCrKGY9F1oI couldn't even finish the AMD keynote. Once some OpenAI guy got up there I checked out
>>107800523I thought AMD were the good guys.
>>107800489You probably don't need it32GB is an absolute must nowadays though
I crave the boombox 5090
>>107800523LUIGI MANGIOLE SAVE USSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
maybe gpu's having swapable vram wouldn't be so bad.
No AI market correction in sight.
>>107800523The government glowie was worse.
>>107800523Kek
>>107800523I pretty much immediately checked out of AMD's keynote. Extremely boring, nothing interesting
Please Jesus Allah Buddha Brahman let Nvidia be the next Intel
>>107800523>linus mocking them>AMDunboxed raging at them >niw gaymers nexus So AMD is no longer the underdog I take it? How long before they start shilling Intel and their GPUs?
>>107800523How the turntablesIt used to be the AMD presentations that were straight to the point, short and really interesting back in the zen1-zen3 days
>>107800601Your wish is called off because you forgot about shiva
Alright I'm putting a new graphics card in today. It's an AMD card and I'm going from a Nvida card. Do I need to uninstall my old drivers? What are some things I need to know before I go poking around?
do I really need to install the 591.74 driver to use dlss 4.5? currently on 591.59. can’t I just grab the dll files and hook it into games manually?
>>107800601nvidias market cap is 10x intels historical high
>>107800653why are you asking about something that requires clicking a button twice
>>107800334>this is what normies actually ""think""hollow_wojak_head_HELLO_hello.jpg
>>107800640If on windows, download the latest amd drivers and DDU, boot into safe mode and DDU your nvidia drivers and shut down. Then swap to your new amd gpu and boot up with the wifi/ethernet plugged out and install the amd drivers offline
>>107800523wtf AMD is pro-trump? Why would they have someone from his administration there?
>>107800672All of tech is pro trump now keep up
>>107800672Sucking off Trump is how you get full approval to rape the goycattle without oversight, they couldn't give a fuck about the rest of the politics involved.
>>107800665I'm on Linux Mint. I always forget to mention that.
>>107800672>AMD is pro-trump?No, they're pro-whoever is in charge. Always been this way.
Got this kit from another retailer for under $300. Honestly would have thought the situation would get much worse by now. That sale makes me wince though. I guess the GPU market is where it gets really fucked
>buy ultra extra expensive gpu so you can enjoy high fps and amazing graphics>insane coil whine when you're going above 60fpslike seriously wtf is this bullshit?at this point just get a 5060ti since you don't want more than 60 fps anyway.has anybody ever managed to return a card with ultra loud coil whine and get it fixed?this is unbearable.
>>10780071032GB is basically holding stable at around $300-$400. It's 64GB and up where it gets into insane pricing because AI ghouls want higher capacities. Pretty much only gamers are buying 32GB and they've seen they'll crack and buy at that price. They certainly won't buy 16GB.
>>107800006is this op a reference to that cool webm posted a few threads ago.
>>107800654For now
>>107800718What card? We keep telling people brands actually matter no matter how much poorfag shilling happens over on reddit
no coil whine on my msi 5080 even when full tdp utilization
>>107800735>We keep telling people brands actually matterCoil whine is a lottery regardless of brand, you could get a 5090 Astral that whines louder than a FE 5090
>>107800755its not a completely random lottery since the board design and inductors selected by the AIB greatly influence how much coil whine there is. for the last few generations, brands that use lower rated inductors like pny, zotac, palit and gigabyte has had much less coil whine than brands with MEGA OVERCLOCKER parts from msi, asus and nvidia FE
>>107800735asus tuf 5090
>>107800755I know later Astrals have different pcb revisions compared to earlier ones I wonder if they also have lesser coil whine
>>107800214>>NZXT PSU>not a meme, that brand is DOGSHIT bro, buy a seasonic gx-1000 on woot if not already gone, like literal garbage PSUAccording to the guide in the OP it's one of the best 1000 w CPUs. You definitely are brand fagging.
>>107800780my astral 5090 has more whine than my aorus master 5090
>>107800781ummmmmmmmm have you considered nzxt is... le evil?
>>107800787Both my Gigabyte 5090 and 5080 are quiet.
They are even AI slopping game requirements>i5 9500Klmao will be good with my GTX 7700 XT
>>107800817>recommend 3060TI>recommend 12GB VRAM????
Who else is gonna pull the trigger on the 9850x3d?
>>107800000
>>107800834I am not leaving my 5700x3d until it physically dies on me
>>107800260You will forever regret buying 60hz.Never do that.
>>107800817>i5-9500klolegrim though, means there was quite literally no hardware testing done
>>107800602Everyone would be glad to shill Intel if they stop delivering ewaste
I also love how asus has a support site for coil whine and is like>nothing we can do about it>deal with it lmao https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1050014/imagine paying $2300 for a gpu and yet they still use the same cheap parts they use on their budget 5050.this is a fucking joke.
>>107800515Is all you have saved to your computer 4000 images of this character? I’ve seen you posting the same shit on like 5 different boards and threads.Since I’m obligated to answer the question now, they don’t give a shit about controlling consumers, it’s just so they can sell more to enterprise because it makes more money. Marketing to richer entities in general, even if it alienates basic consumers seems to be making more money either way in this economy.
>>107800910nta but len is extremely cute, i would ravage him and his sister at the same time.
>>107800781Yeah just like corsair they get their PSU right but nothing else
>d3d_device_lost
>>107800602Well i hope they shill intel nova lake with theirt bblc cache enough so we can get affordable 3XD CPU's dont care if they are Zen 5 or Zen 6 but we went from having $200 Ryzen 57003xd to them still selling 78003xd for $400
I'm just going to wait. If prices come down, I win. If prices never come down, then PC gaming is dead, so either my current build is my last or this new build would be my last. What does it matter either way? Making fun of waitfags is like making fun of someone on death row who chooses taco bell as their last meal, while you, also on death row, chose a steak. Yeah, you're really a lot better off, aren't you?
>Ryzen R9-5950X>Asus Pro Art X570 motherboard>128GB DDR4 3200MHz (some Corsair 4x32GB kit)Guy wants $650 for the entire bundle. The CPU is the top possible CPU you can get on AM4, the board itself is crazy top tier with stupid levels of connectivity, and the type/amount of RAM is self explanatory. I use my PC for video editing, VMs, code compiling, etc. Any reason not to get this combo?
>>107800900its the opposite, cheap parts ironically coil whines less >>107800764
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/580689/dlss-45-super-resolution-faq/Well, NVIDIA says DLSS 4.5 is optimized for Performance (Preset M) and Ultra Performance (Preset L) and says the Turing and Ampere owners will suffer a bigger performance penalty because the model runs at FP8 precision. They recommend to Turing and Ampere owners to stick with Preset K aka DLSS 4.
DLSS4 MFG is the best thing ever.with this I still have 240 fps but almost no coil whine while without it the coil whine goes crazy.it's also adaptive coil whine because whenever I look to the sky or the ground I get different kind of frequencies and loudness.awesome feature dude.can't wait for 6x multi frame generation to get even less coil whine.best shit ever.
>>107800973Preset M on 'Balanced' looks better than Preset K on 'Quality'.
Should I get the $750 PNY or the Zotac SFF 5070 Ti from my Microcenter?PC is going to be a normal build size.
>RTX 3080 10GB
>>107801008truly the best value gpu ever released
>>107801008I have one of those, what's wrong with it?
>>107801007Anything > PNY >>>>>> Zotac
>>107800988Yeah but if you have an Ampere or Turing GPU it will run like shit.
>>107801007Zotac does the worst stuff out there.With PNY you have a chance to not get fucked in the ass.
>>107801015as long as you dont exceed the vram limit its fine
>>107801033Good thing I don't.
>>107801050RT + hdr and amd frame gen really dont like the cards vram budget
>>107800973by the time this gets out of beta i would not be surprised if the both preset M and L get reserved for when you upscale from 720+, unless you are playing a game with massive ghosting issues the difference between running DLSS quality with preset K and runing the heavier models at balance or lower gives people around the same fps and even if the image quality is better retards seeing their fps tanking massively will not be happy
>>107801074At least for me in GTAVPreset K at Quality and Preset M at Balanced gives me roughly identical FPS and image quality, but Preset M doesn't have horrible ghosting issues, so it's a no-brainer.
>>107801021>>107801038Thanks anons. Do you think it's worth for me to wait for another Asus 5070 Ti $750 sale? They had another today but I sadly missed it.I'm not in desperate need of a pc.
R8 my build m8CPU: Ryzen 9 9900x (I'll mostly be doing engineering/science work, not gaming, so the extra cores are nice)GPU: Nvidia RTX 5070 ti zotac SFFCase: Fractal Torrent Compact (my current case, not buying a new one)Mobo: Asus TUF X870E-Plus WifiRAM: 64 gb of G. Skill ripjaws 6000/CL36 (got it for a decent deal in the beginning of the RAM crisis before prices skyrocketed. I don't really care that ripjaws is "for Intel." It'll work).Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB for windows os drive. Biwin 7400 black opal 2 TB for Linux OS drive. 2x4 TB WD Black SN7100 for project storage (already own these, just bringing them over to the new PC).PSU: Corsair HX850w Platinum (in my current build, and I didnt need to buy a new one).
>>107801107Prices will be going up next week or the week after.Buy now.That card could be $900-1000 soon
>>107801111>5070 Ti>850w PSUJust get a 1000w nigga. S tier ones are only $99 nowadays and it's the most common part to fuck up your build. 850w is cutting it very close.
>>107800871I mean there is the 9500 / 9500F and 9600K, might just be a typo if they tested on one of these, or they wanted the number to line up with the 3500 idk6c/6ts are pretty rarely heard of nowadays>>107801008consider that you're still doing a lot better than all those buying brand 5060s / 5060tis and 9060xt 8gbsand even in raw performance you're still a solid step above a stock 5060ti, vram nonwithstanding
>>107801107>>107801123Refresh your browser. Prices are already $1200
>>107801084It is a no brainer but the average retard will feel bad that their GPU which used to be able to run DLSS quality now has to render at a lower resolution, is an ego thing if you are forced to use perofrmance mode you feel like your hardware got worse
>>107801128It's not cutting it THAT close.Even a 9900X3D + a 5080 is ~680W at absolute peak draw. Throw in fans, RGB shit, drives, etc you're looking at ~750W even if you managed to get every single component drawing 100% peak draw (basically impossible).
>>107801144Lies
>>107801111it's fine with the exception of the PSU, what the fuck you want us to say?>>107801128This, PSU issues can grenade everything and it's easy to have random poweroffs when you're running it close to full steam and PSUs are cheap in comparison to everything else.
>>107801157if your psu is dog shit sure but good ones can handle 20%+ over rated current draw.
>>107801123>>107801144At my local Microcenter 5070 Tis have been going for $750 for months now. Still at least 30 in stock atm. You can afford to be picky if you live near a Microcenter.
>>107801171Prices are still going up in the next week or two, trust me.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T2fymCI do a bunch of video editing (Davinci Resolve), VM work, and occasional gaming. CPU/Mobo/RAM is a combo from a co-worker. I asked about it earlier but I decided to jump on it before someone else does. There's no way I'm getting a modern CPU, top tier motherboard, and 128GB of good RAM for anything sub $1200 these days especially with RAM alone being like $900. The hard drives marked as purchased are from my current build. There's nothing wrong with them so I'm moving them over.
>>107801107Buy the pny asap
>>107801174>You caught me in a lieTrust me, bro
>>107801191Look retard, the prices WILL go up in the next 2 weeks because the MSRP from the AIB partners are all going to go up in the next week or two.Microcenter MIGHT keep cards low for a few days longer, but they WILL increase prices in the next few weeks, I can basically 100% guarantee it.
>>107801198>Refresh your browser. Prices are already $1200Remember that time when you posted that?>TRUST ME, BRO
>>107801188There's still 25+ PNYs though, not at risk of going out of stock and I check the site daily.Think I'll take my chances and wait for another Asus sale.
>>107801219What could possibly go wrong
>>107801164But why even have it be a question when you could simply spend a tiny bit more. Especially with an expensive build like that, it's a drop in the bucket.I wouldn't be giving him shit if it's some ultra budget 8500g system, but he had the money.
>>107801219LolLmao
>>107801211I didn't post that. This is me>>107801154
>>107801219Yep. ALWAYS wait. You're going yo find a deal below msrp so long as you wait. Waitchads have never lost
>>107800973This preset shit is causing a ton of confusion amongst normalfags.
>>107801252lmao
>>107801252BASED
>>107800325What noteworthy have you done with your life? With so much free time it's probably something impressive.
>>107801157What's wrong with the PSU? The Corsair HX850 Platinum is a pretty nice PSU that's an A tier on basically any PSU tier list. 850W should be enough for an Ryzen 9 9900x and an RTX 5070 ti. It definitely doesn't need 1000w+.
>>107801313S tier 1000W Gold+ PSUs are only $90 and will last you a decade. No reason not to upgrade and risk it.
>>107801313Eh, I like to oversize. You are running relatively close to max wattage with that build, and it's cheap to oversize your PSU. Also efficiency tends to be best when you're sitting around 50% of rated load.
>>107800489That'll be $500, sir.
>>107801362what do you need four ram kits for?
>>107801362$500 is a pretty good deal for 64 GB of ddr5 right now lmao.
>>107801367To farm for (You)s on /g/, of course.Plus it never hurts to have options for my new build. Think I paid around $1700ish total for that RAM.
>>107801335>>107801341I guess it gives me an excuse to get one with flatter PSU cables. The one thing I really didn't like about that Corsair HX850 and Fractal Torrent combo is that the HX platinum has super chunky snake-style cables and the rear side panel of the fractal torrent compact really does not have a lot of room for the thick ass cable snakes that PSU comes with. What do you think of the MSI MPG A1000GS PCIe 5.1 version? I could get it at a local shop for $109, which doesn't seem too bad.
>>107800350You probably just have to repaste the CPU & GPU.You might have to repad the video card's VRMs if they tear off during disassembly, and get the cooler's mounting pressure correct (even & sufficient amount of pressure).
Thinking of grabbing this 3in1 combo with the MSI board on the right. The RAM kit appears to be the Crucial 2x16GB 6000MHz CL36 kit of RAM. For $50 I can get a kit of G-skill FlareX of the exact same speeds and timings if I care about brand for whatever reason. Tbh I might grab my entire build there now that I'm looking at prices. Only like 1 or 2 things are slightly more expensive like the Arctic 360mm CPU cooler being $130 instead of $100 to $110 online.
>>107800489>AHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT 64GB RAMIf we really want/need 64gb should we just pay the $900 and get it over with? There is no way they are coming down this year right?
>>107800355Seasonic did change their product mix.ATX 3.1 Prime PSUs are limited to PX & TX.The Vertex, Focus, and Core series have the gold-rated GX units.
>was looking at RTX 5070 Ti's last night >overnight one of the cards I was considering went +140€Pretty cool.
>>107801433>MSI MPG A1000GS $109Pretty good at that price.
>>107801445Why would you spend $50 on the MSI board? Motherboards generally don't matter. Better off spending that $50 somewhere else in your build.I'm planning on buying the $680 combo myself.
>>107800355>Also for a Noctua cooler is it better to have two fans or two towers?If you're getting a Noctua CPU cooler, go full retard and buy the new NH-D15 G2.Maybe the U12A if there's size constraints, but don't buy anything older.
>>107800489man.it feels good to be a BuiltEarlier chad.
>>107801448a year is a long time niggaprice increase is already slowing down a lot
>He dont have Super Flower PSU in their countryKek
>>107801473she looks like she steps on the balls of men thrice her age
what's the deal with HDR monitors
>>107801456are old PSU's worth keeping around? I have a 650w from Seasonic. Their Prime Titanium model. It just doesn't have the grunt needed for powerful modern builds. I could always use it for like a low power media PC. Efficiency would be super high. I'm trying to justify keeping it because it was like a $250 PSU when I bought it.>>107801465I have nowhere else $50 would matter. To upgrade from one GPU to the next above it is $250 minimum. A better monitor is +$300. The 2TB Samsung SSD I want would be double the price for a 4TB, etc. Why I want it is simple. Newest CPU + newest chipset and features = long term purchase. What's $50 to gain X870E which is the top end chipset of this generation vs B650E which is budget enthusiast of last gen and just about B850 equivalent?
>>107801491>are old PSU's worth keeping around?Those top tier PSUs are worth selling if you can be bothered with the hassle, beats having it lay around in storage if you're never going to need it.
>>107801491I would say read reviews of each of the mobos. Better power delivery is worth paying for.
>>107801219>Think I'll take my chances and wait for another Asus sale.ASUS literally announced they're raising prices of practically all of their electronics starting this Monday.
>>107801505waitgods hold fast
>>107801482They are brighter and have better color definition. Honestly, the only HDR gaming monitors I've seen that actually seem worth it are the expensive OLED ones. For a little while HP actually had a really good HDR 100 Hz non-gaming oriented IPS monitor that was the "go to" for color accuracy if you wanted a cheap monitor for color grading.
>>107801505Yet they just had another 5070 Ti sale 7 hours ago...
>reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1q3qsc0/the_core_ultra_9_285k_is_not_a_failure_it_is_a/>The Core Ultra 9 285K is not a failure, it is a necessary architectural sacrifice that exposes the limitations of the ring bus in a disaggregated eraCope or fact?
>>107801523Go back
>>107800006how the hell do i use dlss 4.5 without the nvidigoy app? is it available in some games that do have dlss 4.0 or is it possible through the control panel?
>>107801523the limitations of the ring have been understood since they first started expanding it beyond 4 cores and it began having constant crashing issues resulting in downbinning in a lot of scenarios.It was made for quad cores, that's where it performed best. That's where it should have stayed. Don't think arrow lake exposed anything except the disastrously shit chiplet latency they introduced. I blame having two teams working on it that barely collaborated (the texas and israel teams)
Even Intel started to shit on AMD's RDNA3.x trash iGPUs.
>>107801497I would but its missing some of the wires it should have (one of the sata cables i think). Being open box and missing some stuff means people would cowbell the fuck out of me. For the $50 someone might offer me, ill just rephrase it. The more I think about it, the more I think im just going to make an HTPC with it. A sub 120w PC would run perfect on it.>>107801498Looking at reviews the MSI board is perfectly fine even for holding the 9800X3D in max PBO for extended periods of time provided your cooler can keep up. It seems to fit the bill perfectly for me. No RGB cancer, no hyperinflated Price with gamer shit all over it. Just a plain motherboard with a solid IO and the newest chipset.
>>107801538rdna3.X is trash but intel's handheld socs are below even that in perf/w and absolute watts pulled
>>107801541The new iGPU included with Panther Lake will have no issues dealing with whatever garbage AMD shits out with RDNA3.x (given the same mobile, SoC form factor, no dGPUs).
>>107801523The 285k is a competent but not at all exciting option for how expensive it is. Unless you absolutely need Intel quicksync, there is basically no reason to spend $589 on an Intel 285k when you can get a Ryzen 9 9950x for $549 and the Ryzen will walk all over the 285k in most workloads.
>>107801445I got the Asus bundle back in early december when they were still offering 6000MHz CL30 2x16 kits, and also picked up a cheap (for the time) 2x24GB kit as well. I gave the 6000MHz CL30 2x16 kit to my brother. The asus board is overkill, but I enjoy the fact all my USB ports are 10Gbps+.
>>107801540>The more I think about it, the more I think im just going to make an HTPC with it. A sub 120w PC would run perfect on it.Yeah I'd definitely keep it if you have a use for it, it'll be rock solid for something like that.
>>107801555the problem i have with all modern intel socs other than lunar lake is that they pull a lot of power in light workloads and have worse battery life than the equivalent amd soc
>>107801523It's both.It's factual and highly accurate, but it's also cope.He's ultimately sugarcoating a failed product. A consumer high-end 'K' CPU failed to deliver higher performance to the primary demographic for that consumer 'K' CPU compared to the previous generation 'K' CPU in gaming.
>>107801523>This chip represents the most significant paradigm shift since Alder Lake introduced the hybrid architecture, but unlike the 12th Gen, the 285K is suffering from the acute growing pains of decoupling the compute complex from the uncore in a way that creates a distinct latency penalty that enthusiasts are mistaking for regression. >creates a distinct latency penalty that enthusiasts are mistaking for regressionits a cope
New grad, living with parents, down to my last $2000, desperately looking for IT work, 6 year old gaming PC going to shit.Would I be retarded to buy right now? I have no expenses, don't pay rent.
>>107801434>repaste the GPUYou have to repaste the GPU!?And how can i get to the VRM?
>>107801647>last $2000Yes you would be.
>>107801647Pretty stupid to spend your last $2000 on a new PC if it won't be used to generate any income, especially with the inflated memory & SSD prices.
>>107801647you can buy individual components as upgrades, its a pc.say you buy a mobo+cpu + ram combo on a sale now which can be used as the base for future while reusing old case and gpu and such
>>107801647what's your specs? best to upgrade than build a new one with your last $2000
>>107801650>>107801653>>107801659What if I just buy and sit on a $750 5070 Ti and wait to buy the rest of the parts once I'm financially solvent? Reading this out loud makes me sound like an addict though.>>107801661Just an average 2070 super build for 2020, 16 GB ram
>>107801664if your ram and cpu are fine then sure, gpu is a good choicebut Im guessing your ram and cpu suck, in which case its better to upgrade to am5 first
>>107801647>looking for IT workyeah about that...
>>107801647Spend it, buy it NOW. When you don't find work you're gonna in the future think >man i wish I had spent my year (years?) as a NEET enjoying myself with a nice computer instead of being stuck on this old piece of shitadvice from experience>>107801664that said you are nowhere near as bad off as methat pc is like 100x better than the shit I needlessly wasted my time with for years
>>107801522Seek help
>>107801664if you already have 32gb and an am4 board, 5700x3d + 5070ti will last you for years. no need to pay significantly more money to upgrade to am5
>>107801664Do you even have any new games you want to play?Maybe RE9 will be fun, but I'm expecting at least three months of bug fixes to improve performance.
>>107801664>16 GB ramIf this is a DDR4 memory with at least 3200 or 3600 MT/s, it will save you $100~200.
>>107801649You'll have to do some research, plenty of forums & YouTube guides out there.Buy soft thermal pads if you plan to do this little project, you want them to squish a bit to prevent the memory chips' solder balls from cracking under the mounting pressure.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUND6kRqzIYou need to get the thermal pad thickness correct for the VRM and the memory chips.If you want to avoid replacing the thermal pad, run a light benchmark like Unigine Heaven for about 10~15 minutes to warm up the pad & paste and disassemble the cooler carefully.You'll just have to repaste the GPU's thermal interface if you're lucky (I'd buy spare pads in case the pads rip off).
>>107801669My ram and CPU suck, planning on doing a full 5070Ti + 9800x3d rebuild for $2000.>>107801672Yup it's completely fucked, gonna join the military for IT work if I don't find anything soon.>>107801678>>107801688Probably will just get the GPU and save a bit more, there aren't any games I desperately want to play but can't rn. Mainly looking forward to Marathon which launches in March.
>>107801687I have this except 5800X3D and just ordered the 5070Ti. Feels pretty good my dudes.
>>107801687>>107801697No it's 16 GB total, so 2x 8 GB ram. Planning on a full rebuild with the microcenter CPU, RAM, Motherboard combo. Board is a B450 Tomahawk.
>>107801647Use your RTX GPU to generate Loli or Furry porn. Insta $$$$
>>107801781>Insta $$$$
People really need to stop looking at AMD like they’re your friends. The amount of “team red” cringe I see is honestly shocking.
>going back to uni to finish my masters>Been squeezing what I can out of my current gaming build (old) and it just can't do what I want anymore for my needs>Need the ability to run a shit load of VMs >Means a lot of cores and a lot of RAM>Need to be able to push 3x 1440p monitors>Also need a passable laptop for note taking while at uni>$2000 budget for everythingAnything past $2000 and I start cutting into absolute last resort emergency savings. Anything beyond those savings and I'm taking a loan and I'm almost done with my masters, no college debt at all, so fuck that. I found a Dell Poweredge T420 tower on eBay for $600>2x Xeon E5 2470v2 CPUs (10c20t each, 20c40t total)>96GB DDR3 REG ECC 1600MHz RAM>2x 750w platinum rated hot swap PSUs>480GB SSD (Intel something or another, server grade though)>8x hot swap HDD baysI figure I>add 2x WD Blue 4TB HDDs for storage and redundancy - $150 - Newegg>Nvidia Quadro P4000 (single slot, can handle shit loads of monitors at high resolution and refresh rate) - $130 - eBay>3x ASrock 1440p IPS 180HZ monitors (cheapest on PCpartpicker) - $140 each, $420 for them all. - NeweggAfter shipping, taxes, the parts, the new tower, monitors, and triple monitor stand, I'm looking at around $1500. Leaves me with enough to get some piece of shit laptop that's just good enough for notes and videos. Anything wrong with this plan?>inb4 hardware is oldI know but I'm not gaming on it.
>built a new PC>moving old hdds and SSDs to new PC >stripped the m2 screwcut my life into pieces
>>107800350Speccy is shithouse and might be reporting the hotspot temperature whereas the average is likely lower.use HWInfo64 instead.if you've got the stock CPU cooler then yes, it will be running hot but also if you haven't touched the paste since you built it, it probably needs fresh paste.
>>107801874how fucking hard were you cranking on that thing? jfc. Unless you cross theaded it and even then, damn calm down you fucking gorilla
>>107801864Gaming is your last priority given the situation, GL with completing the master's program.
>>107801887I don't know. past me is a retarded fucking idiot and I want to beat him to death with my bare hands.
>>107801844>AMD CPU>Nvidia GPUis this the PC version of idort?
>>107801893yeah gaming isn't even a thing I'm worried about. My parents got me a PS5 for Christmas last year so if I'm really itching to play something I got that. honestly though I just lift and go on hikes these days. It's like the more I work with tech, the less I want to be around it. >GL with completing the master's program.Thanks. I'm going to lurk the thread to see if anyone has any worthwhile objections to my plan, see if I'm missing something from an angle I didn't think of but if I don't see any major red flags, I'm ordering all this shit tonight.
>>107801912The best attitude for Pc hardware has always been>What gives me what I want at the price I want to pay, when I want to pay it.You should be as loyal to companies as they are to you.
>>107801912no, no one give a shit about cpu and it isn't equivalent because nvidia doesnt make cpus equivalent of idort would be having both an amd and nvidia gpu, but that's also stupid, so the real pratical version of an idort would be someone who switches each time they buy or as needed
>>107801934the only company I'm loyal to is Mazda (maybe that will end if Toyota makes them turn the Miata into bloatslop)
>>107800006Upgrading 12500f to 14700, on MSI b660m-a. Updating to newest bios broke my onboard audio. Took a lot of back and forth with bios versions to get it working again. I'm at the first bios that added support for 14th gen, from 2024-09-14, before microcode updates.How important are microcode updates for a non-k chip?
>>107801942Meant from 2023-09-14
>>107801941I want to get an RX-8 one day.
>>107801948I hope you get your dream car soon. RX8s are pretty cheap in my area but I guess you'll have to save up to handle the maintenance.
>>107801934this is the attitude I have with PCs and always have. Looks mean nothing. I don't care if we go back to hardware looking like pic related with old school green PCBs or even further back, yellow. Whatever performs the absolute best. Going into a windowless case anyways.
>>107801941>>107801948>>107801955I had a Ford Probe GT. Was essentially a fun little go-kart that I loved right up until I had to drive it to the junk yard with 320k miles on the odometer. Underneath the hood, it was 75% mazda, the 626. One of the last Ford/Mazda collabs that meant anything and one of the last Fords I ever thought was a good time.
>>107801955You can get them kinda cheap, but really I'd want an R3 version, and then you've got to pay to fix the 20 years of indifference on it.
>>107801941>>107801948>>107801955>>107801966I'm a Ford guy, I want an FC RX7 (with a windsor V8) but they're all gone.good chat /o/
>>107801959Why is the RAM trans?
My old 2k 240 hz monitor is dying again. Which monitor should I get while it repairs? I'd only want a monitor at or above 240 HZ/2k res, any suggestions?
I upgraded after a long time I went from i7 7700k to i3 14100f and now I have pcie 4 nvme and ddr5 ram. However because of money I only have 16gb ram so I am thinking of going back to my old setup. It's main issue was reportedly my i7 7700k was holding back my RTx 4060 at 1080p. Shall I go back? It is really troubling me. Also I can't upgrade I am extremely poor (I'm not a 3rd worlder just a old neet) I need advice. My old setup has 32gb ddr4.
>>107801647>average American spending habits
I'm genuinely hesitating between whaling in gacha or splurging for a 5090Feels like the most retarded, slop-eater dilemma ever
>>107801992it wasn't uncommon for some boards back then to have 2 slots for DDR2, 2 slots for DDR3 to make the transition to a newer system less painful on the wallet. It doesn't know if wants to be DDR2 or 3, so it represents that with trans flags. #ally
>>107802006That's so brave and valid. Where are these DDR2 and 3 sticks now?
>>10780202550% of those systems are dead in recycling centers and landfills and the number grows as time goes on. Oh well, what can you do? Eventually it will hopefully reach 100%
>Nvidia GPU>Idort CPUThis has always been the prosumer way. Never get left behind in either technological component. Intel is currently the "underdog" as far as home consumers are concerned so its tempting to instinctively support them, I will be happy to return to Intel if their next few chips provide something AMD doesn't.>the captcha is giving me the star points now, please have mercy on me captcha san
>>107801994Tandem 4th gen woleds. There's like 3 models in existence sharing this one 1440 panel design, you'll find them. Not sure how much the ASUS one has the ASUS tax but the Gigabyte one is well within the budget range of pricing. 280hz.
>>107801994In my experience all modern monitors budget to mid range especially ones geard towards gaming are Chinese trash and all the specs are buzz words and lies so bear that in mind.
>>107802073Which monitor would you personally suggest?
>>107802000Gachas are never worth it since there's always the next banner to whale on. At least with the 5090, you can somewhat get your money back by selling it off.
i'm going to put the 9850x3d in my asrock mobo
>>107802000Depends on the gacha
>>107802000Never spend money on video games.
>>107802095If you are in the US then, as a backup monitor, you can hardly do better than something like this (1440p@240Hz Fast-IPS) for $170:https://www.amazon.com/CRUA-Computer-Supports-Freesync-Mountable/dp/B0F7KC4XGJFor $60 more you can bump up to ~320Hz with the KTC H27E6 for $230:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS1PWJHKSpending anymore than that isn't advised as you quickly run into 1440p@240Hz OLED ($360) territory which crushes any LCD at any price for colors, contrast, and motion response (240Hz OLED = 360Hz LCD in MPRT clarity):https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27GAZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0FTS1KC43
>>107801995Please help I need advice or validation or something I have OCD and this ram situation is driving me crazy.
27 inch or 32 inch oled?
>>107800006What happened to this artist?
>>10780242227" 4K as the higher pixel density masks color fringing the best.
>>107800006I refuse to participate in a marketplace that is barely aware of retail demand and incapable of catering to it, so I'm building my gayming PC as a DDR4 build. I already dropped the money on a 5070Ti so that's covered and the rest ought to be affordable.Choosing a CPU...I think it's going in picrel which seems to be the top of the DDR4 boards these days.Is a Ryzen7 5800XT the sweet spot for AM4 processors these days?
>>107802438Yeah seems like the consensus is 27 inch at 4k is best image quality. I was eyeing a 32 inch that was $1,200. Even if I work full and have no financial obligations, that is still too much for me on a single item.
>>107802486the sweet spot is on ebay for $500 a piece
>>107802438u think it’d be worth going 27” oled from 27” ips kinda feels weird switching to a panel of the same size but maybe the ips can be repurposed i guess
>>107802486don't overpay for an AM4 board with flashy lightsdon't buy into AM4 at all in 2026you can get a used 12900K and Z690 for $300 on ebay
>>107800006>>SSD (Keep firmware updated)>Budget: SN7100, NM790>High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)>Premium: SN8100>https://borecraft.com/>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>(Windows)What does that mean? Not recommended for Loonix?
>>107802537Don't know. It's pretty outdated, those aren't even the product names for those items any more.
>>107802537samsung's gookdrives perform at a fraction of their performance in loonix
>>107802487>Yeah seems like the consensus is 27 inch at 4k is best image quality. I was eyeing a 32 inch that was $1,200. Even if I work full and have no financial obligations, that is still too much for me on a single item.Agreed, it's funny that with non-RGB OLED panels the cheaper 27" 4K model ends up having the least compromises. For 32" OLEDs to be viable they either need to switch to Stripe RGB or up the resolution to 5K as HUBTim still notices slight color fringing on the 4K 32" OLEDs he's reviewed while it was imperceptible in the 27" 4K OLEDs he had to review with an 4K 27" RGB LCD side-by-side for comparison.>>107802510>u think it’d be worth going 27” oled from 27” ips kinda feels weird switching to a panel of the same size but maybe the ips can be repurposed i guess>Perfect contrast>Perfect viewing angles (no color and gamma washout washout/shift off-axis)>Perfect Colors>No IPS Glow or VA Smearing>Perfect pixel response times1000% Yes. I've long said apart from going from a spinning HDD Boot Drive to SSD, going from a backlit LCD to a self-emissive OLED is the single greatest upgrade the Home/Gaming PC user can treat themselves to. If you scroll through /r/OLED_Gaming/ you'll see countless threads of new owners being blown away by the side-by-side comparisons with their old monitors and kicking themselves for not making the jump sooner. As in >>107802258 they are now pretty reasonable @ $360 too:https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27GAZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0FTS1KC43You can repurpose your current IPS as a secondary monitor (VESA mount both on separate monitor arms @ $20/each) that you can use for static content and then watch video, read manga, and game on the OLED.
>>107802486The only way option if you actually want to go with DDR4 is looking around for an 5700/5800x3d the isn't going for insane amounts used
>>107802555Which monitor model are you using?
>>107802526>don't overpay for an AM4 board with flashy lightsI don't care about the flashy lights so much but gaming gear usually has a bunch of features and loads of ports which means not making compromises on how much shit I can plug in or needing adaptors or hubs etc.>you can get a used 12900K and Z690 for $300 on ebaypicrel is $100 and seems like it will do the job.I don't need to go poverty-tier, I just don't want to pay $2k to replace my RAM with DDR5 when there's no way ram speed is going to force me to play in medium settings.12900K CPUs aren't dirt cheap but I guess I can find something at an acceptable price.
>>107802633>picrel is $100 and seems like it will do the jobgigabyte boards on LGA1700 had some issues with DDR4 at launch probably better now, but prefer ASUS or MSI if you can find it>12900K CPUs aren't dirt cheap but I guess I can find something at an acceptable price14600K new would be the best option if it's still available for a reasonable price where you liveeven a used 12700K would be better than a 5800XTof course KF variants are also acceptable, iGPU is not that important, look around for some deals
>>107799720>>107799820>Drink bleach monitor-shill shizo.that was not me, he copied my whole fucking FLOWnotice his negative sentiment towards mr. plasmaI will only use his likeness for comedic effect, not for negative comments like that anonanyone who think plasma is shilling for yt shekels primarily is funny
>>107802487Go for a 1440p 27' at a minimum of 360hz and use DLDSR to play at 4k when you neededThere are no software solutions to emulate very high refresh rates
>>107802687>use DLDSR to play at 4k thats not how it works retardtheres no software to emulate high dpi either
If I'm locking the framerate of a 280hz, should it best be a multiple of 30 or 24?30 * 9 = 27024 * 11.5 = 27624 * 11 = 264 (undesirable)Both would be below the cap so I don't need to turn on Vtec but would there be any kind of potential issues with certain kinds of content playback ay any of the choices?
>>107802555>as HUBTim still notices slight color fringing on the 4K 32" OLEDs he's reviewed while it was imperceptible in the 27" 4K OLEDs he had to review with an 4K 27" RGB LCD side-by-side for comparison.Tim was shilling 32" 4k qdoled as negligible and identical to lcd before too, or correct me if I am wrong, he cannot be trustedhim saying 4k 27" is identical is also wrong as people can clearly say it's nothe uses a 32" daily for the burn in meme test too, meanwhile people get their eyes fried using the samedo NOT trust his lies>>107802487700$ for 32" 4k qdoled 240hz600$ for 27" 4k qdoled 240hzconverted directly from eu price with VAT added toothese are the minimum prices for each panel I've seenas such these should be the real maximum prices for these panels >>107802438daily reminder to justwait for pg27ucwm, it won
>>107802701That's how it works, the visual increase is nearly indistinguishableI know because I used DLDSR 1440p on my old 1080p screen and when I made the jump to actual 1440p I didn't notice any difference at first glanceDLDSR is very close to the actual thing albeit with a small performance cost. Meanwhile, absolutely nothing other than actual 360hz+ can give you a taste of that incredible, unparalleled smoothness
>>1078026871440p360 means qdoled and big disclaimer if this does not fry your eyes have to be made>>107802749since they dropped a 360hz uw qdoled maybe they will drop a 27" refresh soonmaybe they will drop 600hz to compete with woled true rgb v stripe memesthat will be pretty good even with 1440p
>tfw ram i bought for 80€ can now be sold for almost 300€>tfw scams are running even more rampant than ever beforei thought seeing all those "deals" for a 4090 for 500 bucks would be the peak of scams, but i guess it can always get worse.
>>107802733>600 for 27 4kAll the ones I see are like 900
Is the jump from a 4090 to a 5090 worth it?The biggest hassle is selling the fucking 4090 without getting scammed or stabbed irl thoughAnd then not having the 5090 melt...God what a hassle
>>107802841no stop being such a consoomer your 4090 is fine upgrade 90 cards every 2 gens at the earliest and even then... probably no need
>>107802841>Is the jump from a 4090 to a 5090 worth it?No. The jump is like 20% at best and there's no game the 4090 can't handle. I don't know why anyone would ever try and get a 5090 with these prices if they already have a 4090
>>107802841What games do you play?>gacha/weeb gamesDon't upgrade>AAA game with highly detailed skin cracksDon't upgrade>Retro gamesDon't upgrade>Anything elseDon't upgrade.
>>107802850>>107802862>>107802872Yeah I guess I'd better splurge on a meme monitor for early adopters instead, ty for wake up callI'll only consider the 5090 around MSRP
>>107802841>Is the jump from a 4090 to a 5090 worth it?There has never ever been a need to upgrade a 90 card in the next gen, only people generating abnormally high amounts of AI porn give a shit about the 8 extra gb of vram>The biggest hassle is selling the fucking 4090 without getting scammed or stabbed irl thoughSell to white people at a safe trade area by a police station
>>107802895>only people generating abnormally high amounts of AI porn give a shit about the 8 extra gb of vramand I do this just fine on 16gb. More might let me do video but i jork to images anyway so I don't care. More vram isnt going to make my gens faster.
I'm kind of impressed that Asus has updated with the Crosshair X870E Glacial which is a revamped Extreme-tier board , alongside the Dark Hero. While Dark Hero boards in the past have been present (and sometimes best of their type), its nice they're making a new Crosshair Extreme tier board in the Glacial, which usually doesn't get a mid-gen refresh much less one in white. I have a X670E Crosshair Extreme + 7950X3D that has served me well, but if the 9950X3D2 looks worthwhile, I may pick up Crosshair X870E Glacial to go with it. I will have to compare it to the new shit from MSI though; I think they have a new MEG high end board returning. >OLEDI'm interested in a 4K 240hz of the newest Tandem RGB OLED, preferably at 32"; I have no idea why this seems to be so damn difficult . I read that LG has come up with the newest (W)OLED panel generation which they're just calling RGB and/or Tandem, but its a newer version than the current 27" Tandem , and is "Tandem RGB OLED" I think. I'll compare it to the latest QD-OLED panels but we'll see how it comes out. As someone with a 42" C2 OLED I've overall been happy with for a few years, I would like to move to a monitor with DisplayPort (latest 2.x) given that these HDMI-only TVs are a kick in the dick for FOSS GPU drivers on Linux, and moving to a 32" main monitor will give me more room for portable or smaller secondary monitors. I'm open to other sizes but we'll see I suppose, I just wanted to see CES showcase a bunch of new panels.
>>107802648>gigabyte boards on LGA1700 had some issues with DDR4 at launch>probably better now, but prefer ASUS or MSI if you can find itNoted. I've been a bit burnt by ASUS and MSI are generally a bit more expensive but I'll see if I can find an MSI that's comparable.>14600K new would be the best option if it's still available for a reasonable price where you liveLooks like they vary wildly between $200-400, there are probably some nuances to that pricing.>Intel® Core™ Ultra 5 Desktop Processor 245KF 14 Cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) up to 5.2 GHzpicrel at ~$200The difference between 245KF and 245K seems to be worth about $100, it's just low-power graphics isn't it?
>>107803059>I've been a bit burnt by ASUS and MSI are generally a bit more expensive but I'll see if I can find an MSI that's comparablei also think ASUS boards are overrated but for this use case they do work welli bought a TUF Z790 D4, other than some minor BIOS annoyances (like profiles not loading/saving correctly) it's finegigabyte had issues running even DDR4-3600 back when 12th gen launched, like i said it might be better now but i didn't want to take that risk>Looks like they vary wildly between $200-400, there are probably some nuances to that pricing.nah it's just because with the memory crisis people are buying DDR4-compatible CPUs, so it's out of stock in most places14600K for $200 is good, for $400 it's not>picrel at ~$200core ultra doesn't support DDR4
>>107800006kinda weird that the armpit fetish blew up over the last few years i felt so incredibly perplexed yet invigorated when that particular kink awoke in me back in high school
wtf is going on herethe motherboard cpu temp which controls the fan is lagging half a minute and 20 degree behind the cpu's reported temperature
Is a NAS server worth it? I just want a storage at home that I won't have to keep changing whenever I upgrade parts.
>>107802989I wish they'd made a white x870 apex insteadThe z790 apex was perfect in every aspect and there's no am5 equivalent to date
>>107802807normal price for those 27" 4k qdoleds are 1400$ here in comparisonjust saying what the minimums have been>>107802862if you are a hyperautist 5000 series have fixes>>107802862way more if not doing just pure raster shit though no
>>107803141Motherboard temp sensors aren't accurate at all. It measures socket temps, not CPU hotspot like the AMD sensor does
I just know something will go wrong with the shipping of my card and I will find myself facing even higher prices after wasting my time
>>107800006Fuck pit posters, now I am a pitfag too
Oh my god, I've just seen NVME prices. What the fuck.
>>107803087>14600K for $200 is good, for $400 it's notNoted.>>picrel at ~$200>core ultra doesn't support DDR4Oh fuck, it came up on a search for the socket on a MB that said it did.>>107803139>kinda weird that the armpit fetish blew up over the last few yearsSomeone drew up a schedule of fetishes they have society rotate through each year.https://youtu.be/HJT5XBT6oRM?t=105
>tfw 5900/5950 cpus all bought up>even 13700's are drying up and going up in priceTHE FUCKIN CPUS ARE GOING UP NOW SECOND HAND
My 2026 build>Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16G>Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2> Corsair RM850e (RMe Series)> G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 2X16Gb> Seagate FireCuda 530 1Tb ssd> AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Tray versionThe CPU fan (Thermalight Phantom Spirit 120SE), 5x Arctic P12 case fans and 2Tb Barracuda HDD are on the way.I still dont know the case, I'll buy it on february.Anything else I may need? Am I good with these, or am I dumb with my purchases? I just want to run Total War games to the max and futu proof my PC for a few solid years.
>>107803570>Future proof>Buys 9070XD instead of 5070ti>Only 1TBssd>B650 Humiliation ritual
>2026 build is just my 2019/2020 build upgrading to 2020/2021 partsfuck
>>107803583Whats wrong with B650?
>>107803583b650 is just fine though
>>107803535They already were doing that, try and find a 5800x3d without dropping around 500 dollars
>>107803630ship sailed weeks ago
they will be making new AM4 cpus, and I bet it won't even be 5800x3d, it'll be even better, because that would make the 5700/5800x3d owners also want to upgradeI dreamed of the 6800x3d on a 6nm node-shrink and refined memory controller and it'll be here (except for the new memory controller)
I'm thinking of taking the risk on a 3090 over the 5070 at the same price while I can, I should have done this a month ago.
>>107800006>am5 unify x that came out of left field and i totally didnt expect to see msi launch thisseems like all aibs are now taking amd's platform seriously and actually launching amd versions of boards that were intel exclusive for a long time now
>>107803699@grok turn him into a basedjak
Did I dodge a bullet by getting that spare 5070ti?Jesus christ whats happening now
>>107802989MSI is going to release an refreshed Godlike, Ace board (basically Godlike that is ATX, has less VRM and PCB layers, doesn't have the magnetic screen but otherwise is the same) and Unify board, which is OC/Apex equivalent, all three are MEG boards.I also wonder if there will be a black Glacial/updated non-white Extreme?Everyone is doing refreshes, Asus has Neo, Gigabyte has X3D, MSI has the MAX/EVO. It's mostly because everyone is now including the option to disable USB4 for more lanes, mostly for second PCIe 5 M.2 slot. Honestly the bae x870e boards are pretty meh, in many cases worse than x670e.If I was (You), I would simply wait for the 11950X3D or whatever it will be called, and the new x970e boards that would come with the Zen 6. But if you want to upgroode, you might also want to look at the Gigabyte Xtreme X3D, it's also quite interesting board.
whats the longevity on buying a case ?like, i buy a ITX case that was $120 for $50 now and then build in it 5 - 6 years later using new components that are available then, it'll work right ?[spoiler]PSU's and cases are dirt cheap in my country atm[/spoiler]
>>107803787>whats the longevity on buying a caseUntil it either falls apart or you physically can't fit your components in it
>>107803640i'm unironically all for new AM4 and 3000 series GPU's since they're near perfect, they came out 5 years ago and still work fine for 90% of people[spoiler]is what i would say if they 100% weren't going to insanely upcharge their value[/spoiler]
ryzen 5600 and 9060xt 16gb? How big the bottleneck at 1080p probably not upgrading monitor soon money's tight
>>107803803no bottleneck, 9060 xt is a 1440p card
>>107803787Effectively infinite, I guess?You can go get an ATX case from the 90s, put new fans in it, dremel out the hard drive cage to fit a GPU, and you're good to go.
>>107803811>9060 xt is a 1440p cardmaybe im not understanding you, im planning to play on 1080p for the forseeable future
>>107803826he means that card will crush 1080p like a bug
>AI is actively causing technological regression
>5090 I bought last week has gone up £180 since thenI'm tempted to just bookmark the listing and see how high it goes.
>>107803835so even if i do get cpu bottlenect its gonna be at fps so high it doesnt make a difference
>>107803782my b650 SL was supposed to be a temporary board >>107803597 while i waited for x870 boards to be released but they were so bad that I stuck with my current onecurrently, all its expansion options are completely maxed out with 3x nvmes, 1x 10gbe expansion card and 1x gpu and nearly no boards are a direct upgrade if I want a white one that has an m.2. connector on the right side of the board (for muh really short optane m.2. to u.2. adapter)
>>107803868it kinda depends on that monitors refresh rate really, like dont go expecting 240fps on whatever it is youre playing on it, but itll likely handle whatever you want without going below 60
>>107803570>2Tb Barracuda HDDyou should always avoid SMR drives even if they're for cold storage
>>107803872Asus is going to release a new board with the U.2 porthttps://www.techpowerup.com/344620/asus-intros-pro-ws-b850m-ace-se-motherboard-with-ipmi-for-home-and-smb-serversAsus Hero, Extreme, and probably new Glacial have SlimSAS port, and I think there are SlimSAS<->U.2 cables. Glacial will have two 10gbe ports too, so perhaps you will not need the card.
I have 2 smr drives running for the past 10 years daily, with tons of rewrites in both, my nas has 4 cmr drives tho
>>107803945yup, the glacial will probably fit the bill but i'm not too keen on paying $1.5k+ for a board with 2DPC.>two 10gbe ports too, so perhaps you will not need the cardthat depends on the nic. the aquantia aqc113C i used previously was pretty unreliable and had frequent driver crashes when downloading files faster than 2gbps. i'm currently on the realtek rtl8127 which has been working fine so far
You might think you're #TeamRed, but that case you're using? You have intel to thank for that ATX layout. Sit down, be humble.
>>107803962From what I read it's going to use Realtek, not the Aquantia. Probably the same Realtek that is used on the new Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme X3D.
>boughted a 9060xt after using 1060 all this time>did not boughted a support stickAm I fucked lads? Will my mobo snap? I knew recent cards were heavier, but did not expect this for a "budget" card.
>>107803929Interesting, why is that? I've built pcs before but never really looked into the why in detail.
>>107803999they are slower and less reliable than CMR, it gets worse as you fill them and they aren't even that cheap anymore
>>107803992buy the support stick
>>107803992*Snap*
>can barely afford to get a new gpu now>definitely cant afford the price hike on literally everything else nowDo I just return this card and accept that if my pc dies, its fucking over?
>>107803992*sags*
>>107803992 Bro, a support bracket is under $10. Just get one. Hell, use a pack of cards or something until then.
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>>107804079keep it and sell it later if things get worse
