Use NixOSUse FlakesIt's Linux, but perfected.
its so unfortunate that nix is a incredible idea with absolutely atrocious toolingthe rise of llms is the only thing that makes working with it even slightly bearable
Nah. I can't be bothered to learn how to use yet some more new shit for no reason.
Use DebianUse nix + home-managerSet targets.genericLinux.enable = true;You now have a base system that never updates, and the most up to date userland you could hope for.
>>107800119linux users can't even handle middle click paste anymore and you think they can handle flakes?
>>107800119>dude like run Firefox and the same shitty bloated electron software you always use but make it harder to set up and configure!???
>>107800463>Use electronWhy not just use a browser?
Why would I want this over arch
>>107800362I use keyboard. No need for middle click paste. I always wear out my middle click by opening links in new tabs.
>>107800532It's reproducible or whatever. I just make my own iso and install the packages I want with it.
>>107800536>>107800562Arch that is. just using archinstall and installing all explicitly installed packages from the old system onto the new system after adding repos and setting up yay.
>>107800362arch shitters - no,linux users? yes.>>107800463i don't have firefox or electron installed. anon you're deranged.
You know what sucks about NixOS, and is making me think about switching away? CUDA.Passing CUDA to custom packages is an absolute nightmare. I can not get StabiltyMatrix working consistently, and I'm tired of maintaining it. Considering moving back to Arch, even though there is a lot I will dearly miss.
>>107800588anon this is what nix-shells, or develop if you're using flakes, were made for. they were flawlessly for any application i've come across.
>>107800612Oh yeah? You want me to freeze my version of cutting edge software while I build up the nerve to go through hell again? When I could just grab the same thing from the AUR in two seconds?
>>107800663anon why are you freezing your versions if you want the latest and gapest njudea slop?
>>107800697Are you retarded? Have you tried packaging a dotnet application for Nix? The dependencies alone will make you want to kill yourself.
>>107800119Once you get it working, it's great.Once you run into needing something custom, you're fucked. ChatGPT is decent at writing nix code. >inb4 rtfm
>>107800252That sounds like a cool idea
>>107800119its called containers and theyre better
>>107800713i haven't used .net since highschool in the aughts. i see microsaar ported it to linux. going to fuck around with it tonight.
>>107800782Best way to run hyprland on Debian stable. You can use home manager and flakes to pull and build hyprland straight from the devs github repo and it doesn't interfere with your base system because it's separate from the base system.
I heard Nix nukes your drives
>>107800960usecase for drives??
>>107800960if anything it saves them since you can pin to a release for 6 months. archtards come by and rebuild unstable every day and wonder why they have 30gbs of write a week.
>>107801014How is that any different than just choosing to not update any other distro for 6 months?
Nah, I've used Debian for too long at this point and it works perfectly fine. Why would I care about learning a new distro.
I just installed NixOS today on a spare computer to tinker around. Coming from Arch this is definitely some wild stuff.. lots of learning ahead it seems. Any good video tutorials out there? I'll read the books or whatever but maybe a video tut to get me started would be nice
>>107801347https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMDnZWXjn4&list=PLko9chwSoP-3MLKgbuwh3n_x3HVzoZujp
>>107801411Sweet thx man. I'll watch these tomorrow with a hot cup o' tea
>>107800119Nix as a secondary package manager on a distro that respects FHS is a superior experience to NixOS itself from my personal experience.
>>107800209>absolutely atrociousI can see you've never used Slackware
>>107801443>hot cup o' teaYes u sound like a tranny. Arch user I bet. You like to customize your body like you do your distro, right? >>107801443
>>107800119More hassle than containers, none of the security benefits.
>>107801347https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwbNhSxLd4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3nUU1OVx8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUB2rwDUm5A
>>107801673nix has namespaces, i'm sorry you only know how to use docker, anon =(
>>107801347>I'll read the books or whateverEnjoy scavenging conflicting documentation between "classic" nix and the "flakes" way, outdated forum posts, and troon blogs to cobble together a half-baked understanding of a system that's held together with duct tape and hopes and dreams.
>>107801668No one has
>>107801690>very first guide>it's a pedophileShocking.
>>107800119>https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/476263overcomplicated troon garbage that can't even do basic stuff. what's the point if it can't even handle a postgresql upgrade. complete useless retardation.
>>107802001anime website
>>107800119>Use FlakesDetSys shill thread detected
It's certainly the perfect linux for me, at least.I don't use flakes, but recently I've started using something called devenv, and it's been fantastic. My limited understanding of flakes is that it might act similarly.
Nix is good, shame that it's so trooned
>>107801902I'm just s normal cis white male, but that's wild "hot tea" can set you off like that lmao. You need aome help, man
>>107801668ive used it a long time ago, dont really recall much except that it seemed to use a lot of bashbut i dont think its the same problem, slackware has a bad foundation, nix has a good foundation but very bad tools
too complicated to do basic shit
I've undestood that nixOS is relatively difficult to pick up for most linux users, because of how different it is from most distros. Is it difficult for a beginner, for someone who has no experience with linux in the first place?I've been thinking about building a linux workstation, as I slowly try to migrate away from windows. The reproducible deployment stuff is what attracts me to this distro. I'm fairly confident that I can get most of the essential software to work, and there's no need to ditch the existing windows machines any time soon
>>107800119just seems unnecessarily annoying like Slackware or to a much lesser extent, SUSE.
>>107804890Nix is perhaps less intuitive because people are used to interacting with systems (and the world) in a stateful manner, i.e. you install program, configure it via GUI or more rarely via some config file, and move on to something else. In NixOS you configure almost everything in your system in a single text file (though you can split it into several files if you want).To people like me it's the holy grail, because you can know exactly what is going on in a system and its packages by looking at a single file, something you impossible to keep track of in a regular OS unless you write down everything install and the configurations you change in each program. So the state of a system is always clear on NixOS, and easily reproducible.I slowly started migrating all my machines to Nix after the MS Recall bullshit. There was some learning curve, but it was doable because I've used Linux for work my entire life. But plenty of people give up all the time and I've seen hilariously butthurt posts on forums ("I'm going back to Arch, which is a MUCH better distro than this garbage!"). These days AI will make things much easier for you, and strictly speaking you won't be doing more than installing packages here and there and it shouldn't be that much different from other distros, but the problem is that if you want to install something outside of their repositories, it may have problems running on nixos because they break some conventions. It would be much safer to start with something else, to be honest.
>>107805245>the problem is that if you want to install something outside of their repositories, it may have problems running on nixosThat's not necessarily a major issue, as I can run the problematic stuff on another machine (or a virtual machine). The important computationally heavy stuff I can compile from source if need be, or are there some problems with that compared to other distros?
>>107804890I only dabbled with Arch and I'm currently trying out Nix. As far as I can tell, I would be reading, breaking and tinkering tons of stuff on my own, and it's just the platform and the context that changes.All that to say that it makes no difference to me. I'd be reading and learning anyways, might as well do it for something I care about.
>>107801673Containers were never secure to begin with. That nix can also build them if you want that, better than most tools out there right now.
>>107806234>I can compile from source if need beThe problem is that you'd have to write nix code to set up all the dependencies and build process correctly. For someone brand new to Linux, this can be fairly difficult.I'd recommend running a more standard distro, and then you can install nix as a command line utility. You can still use it to define virtual environments for specific packages and any custom stuff, while learning how to write nix code.Once you get confident in how that works, you can try running nixos, so the whole system will be defined in nix code.It wouldn't be any good if you start trying Linux on a difficult distro like nixos, get fed up with it, then go back to Windows or MacOS.
>>107800119Why should I use NixOS when Arch Linux just works?
>>107800119>tranny distrono
>>107808821Thanks for the insight, I'll contemplate on the matter. Enjoy this image of a dog posing with a pipe
>>107808832arch is for shitters and retards. you should keep using arch.
>>107800119I use it for the servers I have in my closet but I'd rather stick to kubuntu+nix package manager on desktop
I put NixOS on my USB key because of this thread. (I'm looking for an alternative of windows.)I tried using the KDE version at first, it couldn't even connect to my wifi. I tried a dozen different KDE distros this week and it's never been an issue so far.The Gnome version worked but Gnome is horrible, I'm never going to use it.I'm not going to look into the OS any further because if I have to troubleshoot literally the first thing I try doing after booting up, it's just the tip of the iceberg.
>>107809531yes, nixos is not for you. try mint.
>>107809538yeah I tried mint alreadyit's the least worst so far but it's too buggy for meI made this thread btw >>107801139My plan is to wait 5 more years with windows 10 LTSC and when it stops getting updates maybe linux will be polished enough to use. (Probably will use SteamOS or Mint).
>>107809569ok, try again in 5 years.
>>107809227Dogs don't smoke you flippin' g00se
>>107809569I installed windows 11 LTSC on a vm to check it out, it's hilarious how much better it is compared to the regular version. But it's scary that even without all the bloat, the install size is still 25 or 35GB IIRC. What the hell is MS is putting inside that?
>>107809620But do they pose doe?
Why would someone use NixOs with kde over Fedora with KDE. redpill me on any benefits.
>>107810152none, go back to slopdora.
>>107810185yes massa thank you massa
I don't understand why the linux community hates flatpak so much. >sandboxed app>dependencies all included>compat across all distros.sounds pretty good to me, so why all the hate
>>107810216because anytime a flatpak needs access to something outside of its little sandbox everything breaks. Flatpaks are really only useful if it is an application that never needs to interact with anything else.
>>107810242>Flatpaks are really only useful if it is an application that never needs to interact with anything else.ie: most applications
>>107800119Guix, close enough>>107801668Weirdly true, I know Gentoo users who are scared of slackware and consider it to be harder
>>107810259>I know Gentoo users who are scared of slackware and consider it to be hardernta but I used slackware for years. it is NOT harder than Gentoo, not even close. Slack's installation is harder than something like Fedora's automated install, but no where near as hard as something like Arch's manual install. Using slack is just "run of the mill." What makes it "hard" - and I put that word in quotes for a reason - is its out of date / out of touch dependency management. there is no package manager to tell you what dependencies are missing, so you have to painstakingly track them down.which is really moronic in 2026. the slacker community acts like this some badge of honor or something when you waste 4 hours of day trying to get steam working. also, it's poorly managed now. I mean really poorly managed.it was one of the very first distros to hit the "mainstream" and back then it was pretty amazing (for its time). Now? it's a mess, it's a dead distro that hasn't realized it's dead yet.Gentoo is a 100x harder than Slackware.
