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>>107862381The AI future is bright.
>Tower coolers
>Long time of painstaking copes and research>All roads might lead to the LG G5 55" after all>>107861912>>107862041
>>107862506that pic is giving heavy frogb*ygaming vibes ngl
>>107862493I’m looking at a prebuilt with a 265kf, 5070, 32 gb ddr5 for a deal. Only catch is its refurbished and final sale. Thoughts?
What's the cheapest way to get 48GB of VRAM?
>>107862606Radeon.
how long has msi been using that batman forever font?
>>107862612Any cards in particular?I was already looking at 2x 7900XTX as an option.
Would one of those full copper axp coolers be better than something like the phantom spirit?
>>107862606Tesla
>>107862606AI max or M4 pro mini PC.For gaming, stick to 8gb if you are going to pirate everything, no good games that require more than 8gb exist ATM (like yeah, you need more than 8gb if you want high graphics settings, but that's not a NEED, that's a WANT, it doesn't change the game much, half the games I pirate I don't finish to completion, do you really think if I had a 12/16+gb GPU I will now finish that game?).For AI, stick to openrouter, if you are a pro linux user you could technically rent a GPU (vast.ai / huggingface? it's like a 50 cents for an hour of 48gb, priced per minute, but if you accidentally leave the instance on for a day, you could easily end up paying like $200 depending on the GPU you are using), but openrouter is astronomically cheaper for LLM's.
>dropping $1200 on an upgrade consisting of 5900XT/PS120/5070 to get 2020 levels of performance would cost me as much as a brand new PC in 2015Fucking A financial decisions I got for not buying into a DDR5 platform eh?
>>107862746Welcome to the party pal.I anticipated this in 2020 with GPU shortage due to crypto faggotry and the lockdowns. I doubled my saved money for my next PC with this knowing how fake and gay the world has been with globalization and FOMO.
>>107862778At this point a 5950X plus 3090 plus 128GB of DDR4 3200 might be the endgame forever until it breaks PC for us who were too patient waiting on AM4.We'll see how much value those extra cores and extra memory/cache will give in practice especially if you're 3dfagging or video editing or whatever.
>>107862793i can find 3090s here in my cunt at really good prices so i started thinking its time to get green againoutside the intlel tier temps is there anything wrong with ampere? also its the last heterosexual gen that had 8pins instead of the poz connector so why isnt everyone rushing to buy them?
I wonder if AMD will ever allow this into an actual productWorks on intel toohttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/chipsets/pcie-card-unlocks-amd-chipset-power-on-intel-motherboards-or-you-can-turn-any-b650-motherboard-into-an-x670-one
>>107862903yes but im not going to setup my own video streaming platform so ill keep using youtube
1480€ LG G5 55" w/ StandCall it
Maybe don't spend your hard saved 1200$ one 5 year old parts? Jesus fucking Christ, what has this place come to? You could buy so much other stuff you forgot about or might need more with that money. Like a car, furniture, home infrastructure, gadgets, tools, human interface devices, anything more practical than to just make line go up a little more...But maybe this is better for that other thread...
>>107862960No one cares monitor schizo. Fuck off.
>>107862960c5 for $700
>>107862995false, everyone cares about displaysone random complainerschizo does not change this fact, but you will have your undeserved (You)>>107862996if you are referring to 42" it's more like 820€ also out of stock on LG site, which means it's 930€ from other retailersnot to mention it can't compete being 3 tiers lower in brightness and before we get to tandmeme panels
Why is it that 2160p professional displays are so horrendously laggy? Paying a grand for 60hz and 25ms of latency on top of that feels miserable even in desktop clicking around or dragging my cursor.
>>107862960Yes. I love my LG G5 and 5090.
>>107862960Don’t do it, the Samsung 49” is under $1k on Woot rn. Better panel. Better price. Better warranty. >mine will be here next week
>>107863124What makes it professional?
>>107863146G5 has a 5 year warranty on the panel.
>>107863160It's got accurate colors via LED backlit IPS in multiple color spaces and wears Eizo/Viewsonic/Dell/BenQ branding I guess and some fancy buttons, that's your typical professional video monitor.
New motherboard comes with some newfangled WiFi antenna connectors, now I have to find and buy adapters for this shit.I hate these board designers.
>>107862493I'm seething, I hate my motherboard, AVOID an MSI X870 LIKE THE PLAGUE Insanely long boot times, weird instability, video driver issues, typing this out on my Steam Deck because the WiFi is literally in an irrecoverable state where it won't connect to Wifi, can't connect to internet via Ethernet, I HATE this fucking thing.I need help buying a new AM5 motherboard, price "is" an issue, I don't want to spend more than the what I've spent for the board I already have (£250) but otherwise I don't know where I can get similar specs to the Tomahawk.
>>107862606https://groq.com/pricing
>>107863253Did you upgrade your UEFI/BIOS to the latest stable release? It could be that.
>>107863064>he lives in a country where they add taxes to the pricethats a you problem.
>>107863253Have you tried downclocking your RAM.
>>107863308Are you saying the latest bios is what's causing the issue or are you saying an non-updated bios is the issue?My board is on the latest bios>>107863310I reset the CMOS and it's still giving me issues. As a compromise I don't mind saying I got a bad model and I just buy another and replace it with the same, but this has fucked with me non-stop since I've got it.
>>107863324Just order another from Amazon then return your defective one. Tell them it's fried, DOA.
>>107863324Do yo have another stick of RAM to try?
>>107863355that's the plan but the idea of a second bad board fucks with me>>107863361No but it's not the ram
>>107863384Tried different slots? Unstable RAM does weird shit.
>>107863253Shoulda gone GIGABYTE. many such cases...
>>107863324What's the bios version? AMD recently made big changes between version 1.2.7.0 and version 1.2.0.3g in AGESA. Mostly, you can't go back from version 1.2.7.0 to previous versions and you have to pray for the next update if you have problems there.
>>107863411point at the board and I'll look at it >>107863403it's not the ram just type X870 tomahawk issues
>>107863423ahhhh I'm a faggot I'll install the newest bios was on the november bios
>>107862493Why don't they machine some cooling fins into that bracket?
>>107863439>>107863423installed the newest bios I'm fighting with my system even more
>thinking of doing a 5950X+3090 build or buying a 4090>remember I only got two 750W PSUs at my disposal Fuck... maybe I will have no choice but to buy a 5070 instead, but I want that VRAM. Are you sure that I can't just daisy chain two PSUs in one system like some cases which support dual PSUs?
>>107863253You should have chosen the X870E Nova, it's a rock stable board with supreme cooling and 5 x M.2 slots, no lane sharing with GPU slot, 2 x 40GBit USB4 ports. Just don't crank up the PBO Scalar in BIOS over factory limits. Don't do this with any AM5 board or CPU.
I built my first ever PC (that should last me 10+yrs) like mid last year before all this ram shortage/high prices slop
>>107863802high price shit started in 2018 with the RTX 2000 series lil bro
>>107863802>that should last me 10+yrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnWWz5jPvQhttps://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1768388916>Last year, we heard reports that Samsung is accelerating the development of QDEL, also known as EL-QD or NanoLED, for use in TVs to outmaneuver Chinese TV makers. With this technology, the quantum dots themselves directly convert electrical power into light and color, effectively acting as the light-emitting diode instead of OLEDs or LEDs. While last year's report about Samsung claimed that it is targeting commercialization "within a few years", Nanosys sees 2029 as a realistic timeline. "And last and perhaps most interest to people is QDEL. We think 2029 is a reasonable target for when we'll start to see those in the market. That is QD electroluminescent displays," said Jeff Yurek.QDEL IN 2029. JUST 3 MORE YEARS UNTIL THE END OF PANEL BURN IN.Maybe less if Samsung is super aggressive in rolling it out to keep the Chinese from eating them alive with cheap inkjet-printed RGB OLED.
>>107863253E models don't have this issue seems like a you problem.Also lmao if you think ASrock or Asus are any better for that same chipset.
>>107863931uh what about microLED, haven't you been waiting for that since 2018
what's up with mobos still using old 3.2 gen 1/2.0/1.1 usb instead of all of them being 3.2 2x2 or usb c??are 2x2 fucking $100 each or something'?
>>107863976>uh what about microLED, haven't you been waiting for that since 2018I never had any faith in MicroLED since it was first talked about. They will never get the module pixel density under control at decent with pick-and-place to make a panel any smaller than 100". Earlier I had hopes that QNED (Quantum Nano Emitting Diodes) would be the thing to unseat OLED before Samsung mothballed it (article from 2020):https://displaydaily.com/are-quantum-nano-emitting-diodes-qneds-the-next-big-thing/Now it's looking like QDEL is the easiest to commercialize and Samsung have redirected all their internal R&D budget into it since last year.
>>107864041>>107863931can they just figure out how to make cheaper OLEDS chinese already forced to drop their margins massively by selling $499 oleds and the goal for them is to release $399 oleds this year
>>107863856idc still got in before they got even higher >>107863901dumb nigger I had a 2001 overheating laptop that still worked over 24 years, i think the modern gaming pc I built can survive, especially with the type of games a play (league of legends)
>>107864025There's a hard cap on total concurrent throughput for everything using your chipset's PCIe lanes, like USB ports. Namely the (usually 4) PCIe lanes connecting chipset to CPU.Which is different from devices using the CPU's PCIe lanes (rather than the chipset's). Like your primary NVMe drive, and the PCIe slot for your GPU.
[spoiler]>>107864101>can they just figure out how to make cheaper OLEDS chinese already forced to drop their margins massively by selling $499 oleds and the goal for them is to release $399 oleds this yearhttps://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Response-Compatible-FreeSyncTM-LS27FG500SNXZA/dp/B0FNQDNGXYAlready down to $380.And believe it or not the V-Stripe RGB QD-OLED is actually going to be cheaper to make than the Triangle RGB QD-OLEDs because they have optimized the ink fill chemistry to be more efficient which reduces BOM cost. They couldn't have gotten V-Stripe working this fast at decent brightness otherwise.https://www.avsforum.com/threads/news-displays-and-their-technologies.3218193/page-263#post-64415148
>>107864101Chinese didn't do shitIronically it was Samsung and LG that put monitor prices down.China only does LCDs for monitors.
>>107863250no fucking way kek. what mobo is it?
is 16gb of ram enough?
>>107862493I can get the regular sn850 2tb for £79.99 on sale right now. Is that a good price? I literally only need it as a downloads folder because my C: drive is only 256gb. And also background recording with shadowplay. I've been looking for a cheap 2tb ssd for a while and I'm willing to compromise a bit because prices are insane right now.
>>107864358No really
>>107864209how much lower do you think they'll get in the next 12 months and will this force IPS to even be cheaper to compete?
>>107864383Grab it fast. I don't know the exact exchange rate from euros to actual money, but that's gotta be a great deal.
>>107864383Make sure there's no catchMake sure not refurbAnd when you get it and unbox it, record it in case someone swapped And check disk in CrystalDisk / firmware apps to make sure it's legit
>>107864479I bought one and a £5 heatsink off amazon.Here's the deal if anyone else is interested:https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4794121
Talk me out of buying used 3090 tomorrow right now.
>>107864490It's from SanDisk directly so it should be legit
>>107864499Same performance as 5070 non ti, possibly worse in newer titles and in DLSS.Old, power hungry, out of warranty, and worst of all, possibly mined. Only worth it if you get it for 5070's price or below and be certain it's not mined, but so far all those I've seen are well within 5070ti's price range.
>>107864499The 3080 is the only pre-40 series card worth considering, on the used market. 3090 is way too power hungry for the performance.
Does anyone have a Logitech G502 X PLUS or similar? Do I have to run G HUB software for the profiles to work. I absolutely hate the Razer shit I have now since stored profiles don't work without the software and RGB goes full gay.
Alright /g/I got all my parts finally.Shall I post a pic of all of them here or will I get roasted and/or seething judgement?I can't start building until this weekend bc work is absolutely draining and I don't wanna fuck up anything after already being up 11-12 hours. Getting old sucks ass. Plus it's already dark as shit by 5pm here due to the mountains cutting off sunset//dusk.
>>107864572Let's see... you could post a $12k pile of parts, and you'd still get roasted.
>>107864572Post a photo
>>107864518>Only worth it if you get it for 5070's price or below and be certain it's not minedThis is my case 2 months ago and still remains so for the moment. I can be reasonably confident my target card, a 3090 Strix was taken care of well by its owner whom I have tested a 3090 from personally to my satisfaction before.>>107864533The only reason I am even considering a 3090 is to have a VRAM stockpiled. My heaviest tasks consist of path traced 3d rendering, video editing, particle simulations, and rarely some SDXL or Minecraft with shaders..
>>107864572>will I get roasted and/or seething judgementwell, yes, it's what we specialize in here.>Getting old sucks shaddap noob.>the mountains cutting off sunset//duskwest coast faggotry.
What should I look for in a monitor that will mainly be used for text (i.e coding, papers) but also for video editing?
>>107864598get it thenif it was a evga/gigabyte 3090 then i would dissuade you because of their unreliable pcbs
>>107864624IPS Black productivity monitor. Dell makes some nice ones.
>>1078646245K OLED
>>107864409>how much lower do you think they'll get in the next 12 monthsI expect them to break sub-$300 for 1440p models by Black Friday/Amazon Prime Day.> and will this force IPS to even be cheaper to compete?Non-MiniLED IPS will maybe get another $20-40 cheaper at most as they are already about as cheap as the tech will allow. But 4K/MiniLED IPS panels could drop by another $50-150 and it wouldn't surprise me.
RAM is expensive but Its really not that bad, It will pass as supply meets demand. For now 16gb is fine. You can game with 16gb on any game and if you need to stream you probably are a streamer that can afford 32gb of ram for $270, It's not that big of a deal. Newegg literally just did a bundle deal for $240, 16gb of 6000mhz DDR5 and a AM5 moboJust dont use winblows 11 spyware that takes 5gb of ram just to open firefox and boot.Kubuntu uses 1.7gb with two firefox tabs and a 1080p video playing. 1.3gb on cold boot.
>>107864644>because of their unreliable pcbsAssuming of course that the 3090 in question isn't going to spontaneously suffer from death due to PCB damage from either a crack or something else, since I see many of them even the best ones show up after service consisting of laminate repair.
>>107864719evga has qc/design issues while gigabyte has a vrm implementation issue which impacts reliabilitytheres also the risk of user error causing cracked pcbs but that's a general risk you have to stomach when buying used
>>107863423you can always go back to older bioses if you're flashing via the physical flash button on yoir MB
>>107864624Avoid monitors with non-standard sub-pixel layouts that fuck up text rendering. For editing if you want an actual professional monitor idk, otherwise it's just color coverage of what you work in, ideally with decent out of the box accuracy (and non shit contrast)
>new AIO>bequiet silent loop 3Install, boot PC, pump has a LOUD rattle soundI auto assume it’s broken whatever I’ll returnTry calibrating fans/pump with FanControlRattle goes away completely - everything is silent nowIs this normal?Testing temps with Cinebench brings all cores above 90CI usually get somewhere between 85-95 with other AIO’s
>>107864738Just think there's something wrong with this board, it causes system interrupts, massive issues with the GPU. The list is long and extensive, should really just suck it up and buy an X870E board.
>>107864807>bequiet silent loop 3Just get an Atmos Stealth and set pump max to 80%...
my ssd is at 65% health fackwhat do
>>107864567g102 but yea use g hub.
>>107864853Constantly back up or use it as a "who cares what happens" scratch drive until it diesBuy now or suffer later this year
These motherfuckers really couldn't bother to give the 5070 3GB chips instead?
>>107864844yea nigga fo shoBut the issue was the weird loud ass rattle I heard from the pump that magically disappearedJust wondering if that’s normal on first boot with some AIO’s or not
>>107864856So I can't store profiles and turn the software off?
>>107864731If the Strix has had PCB damage in a problematic area I don't trust that shit to not be a ticking time bomb for some reason no matter how good the service pros were, all that reliability of the design will mean nothing. I should buy a 5070 instead if it turns out that way and force myself to live with the lack of VRAM.
>>107864261It's a MSI, but apparently Asus and Gigabyte all do it too. Fuck 'em all.Apparently MSI is using SMA quick connect and Asus is using MMCX, dunno about Gigabyte.
>>107864869Rattle could have been the waterblock and thus the pump not having any fluid in it, which would work itself out by circulation. But, there could still be an air bubble trapped in there reducing effectivness.
>>107864807>Rattle goes away completely - everything is silent nowIt's pretty normal behavior. You have to run your AIO for an hour or so for all the bubbles to settle and distribute across the top of the radiator for the noise to go away upon first use.
>>107864869Rattle? NoGurgle due to first time cycle and air being eventually displaced? I think soI went back to air but I have Atmos Stealth as the bookmarked one to buy for most reliable and quiet Then again I'll probably buy Noctua's overpriced AIO when they release itBut I will probably wait a year to see if there's any hiccups
"oh yeah, it's all coming together"
>Wanna get a 5070ti>Don't wanna replace my PSUHow bad are these adapters? Seems like every tech tubers spergs out about them.
>>107864888>>107864892>>107864901Makes sense, thanks.Regarding temps, I’m noticing that they will randomly jump up during idle from 30-35C all the way to 50, 60 even 70 then lower back down.Hasn’t happened with any other AIO I’ve tested.What would this imply?
>>107864924I have 10 of these in my case. They're pretty good. Almost $400 in fans made me feel silly at checkout though
>>107864927Why the fuck does a 5070 need one when two 8-pins could power it fineFucking NVIDIA being stalinists on AIBs
>>107864933Air bubble is preventing the heat from transferring to the fluid.
>>107864927Buy a cable that does 2x PCIe (6+2 pin) [from PSU] to 1x 12v-2x6pin [for GPU]Ideally figure out what side the clip of the connector is for the card so you can get a 90 degree connector or just get a straight end (for GPU) and make sure not to bend for at least 30mmThen you're goldenIf anything multi PCIe to (GPU) 12v-2x6pin is THE best for load balancing transient spikes 5070/Ti don't spike above 360 so unless you have less than 850w you should be fiiiine
>>107864937Same. I got 7 plus two in the cooler.I'll probably buy 1-2 more for the bottom part of the case one I work out cable management.
>>107864927what PSU do you have? because Seasonic sells a 2x 8pin to 16pin cable that can handle a 5090 without issue.
>>107864927you dont like fun? just play the connector gatcha goy
>>107864960Why would you need 850W for a 5070 or TiThese cards can be undervolted to a hilarious degree
>>107864853>my ssd is at 65% health fackHow long have you had it for?
>Put a 3D printed badge on your AIO cooler anon!Well that's a fucking disaster waiting to happen.
>>107864945Two 8-pins could also power the 5070ti. At least Nvidia had enough shame to not have a one 8-pin to 12v converter for the 5060.
>>107864983huh
>>107864924I hate having 300 fan cables. That's my only gripe with traditional fans.
>>107864982>>107864861I'm worried cuz I can't find this SSD in stock anymore
>>107864972A Corsair RM750
>>107864994That's why I bought this. However I realized I will have to give Corsair another 20+tax for another SATA cable since they're assholes who only give 2x (4 connector) SATA cables for their PSU. I don't want the fan controller on the same cable as my SSD nor my 2x HDD (6/10) cable in case.
>>107864877Logitech has an option for running it off saved profiles on the mouse. Not like GHub is a heavy program anyway.
>>107864993
>>107865015Thanks. I'm just soured by this Razer shit is all.
>>107864995Well that's because it's 8 years old and everyone like myself bought used MLC asap once we saw NVME prices skyrocket Should've gotten a higher capacity SSD 860 so it could suffer more wear
>>107864998Buy Corsair or cablemod cable off AmazonJust figure out if you're Type 3 or Type 4 by using Corsair website
>>107864856>>107864877look up logitech onboard memory managerportable app that lets you set the profiles and never have to deal with ghub
>>107865026>>107865048Oh just to clarify, Ghub itself also has the controls to save the current profile settings on the program to the mouse. I think it also allows managing multiple? Haven't touched mine in a long time.
Can we use these threads to organize raids on local RAM shipments?
>>107865064https://videocardz.com/newz/south-korean-design-office-hit-by-thief-who-only-stole-ddr5-memoryahead of (you) buddy
>>107865048>>107865058Thanks. How are Logitech mechanical keyboards. I was looking at a keychron as a replacement for what I have.
I just need vram to do 3Dfag shit. I absolutely hate that I need the same thing """adults""" who play video games (made for children) and AI nigs who are a blight on the earth. I should have bought the 4090 when I had the chance. cant believe I might spend $3k+ on a 5090 since I have no other choice
well I waited too long and now the 5070ti is up like 100 bucks in Europeits over
I have waited long enough, brosyou owe me an answer>31-32inch>4k>not oled>30% work / 30% browsing the internet / 30% gaming>not too old>not the m32u or m32up>not that one fucking LG with the loud fan
Maybe putting important industry in other countries and ONLY in that country was a bad idea innit?
>>107865064lol.. unfortunately, there's little DDR5 to steal. The fabs are now all making HBM ram which is entirely incompatible with DDR5.
>>107865205its not like the the US doesn't have fabsand that doesn't really have anything to do with the price increases
Well, I spent almost 5k on a 5090 build. What should I do now anons?
>>107865258play emulators
>>107865258Why not two?
>>107863856>he doesn't remember crypto
can he really make this happen...
>have am4 motherboard>need to upgrade cpu>buy 5700x3d>update bios to the latest compatible version upon delivery>won't post>reseat ram, cpu, re-flash with two different USB sticks, flash using the flash button on the back, jump JDAT, unseat cmos battery, try original bios>STILL won't postwhat the fuck. do i just buy am5 now or what
>>107865258Cyber Punk maxed with HDR.
>>107865258Upgrade
>>107865339>what the fuck. do i just buy am5 now or whatPerhaps rethink buying used parts from Temu
>amd recommends liquid coolingUh, so do I do it? How long do these things last now? How long until you see performance on them drop and it's not cooling any better than an air cooler?
>>107865258AI image generation and LLM. Make your own sexbot.
>>107862793does video editing use all that ram? I have 128gb hynix CJR at home in 2 different PCs, was thinking of making an workstation machine with it and getting a 5900xt, but I don't need it so I don't do it, what would it be useful for?
>>107865323Cloud computing will be cheaper for the vast majority. I've talked about this before, but it's just like robotaxis: you don't use your car all day (probably), so it doesn't make financial sense to pay for one that's just sitting around. It'll be way cheaper if that car is someone else's that you use occasionally
>>107864358on linux 16gb is enough, on windows it isn't
>>107865111sorry you have to spend so much to 3D model your big titty fox slutspost tails
>>107865468This is fucking retarded because everyone wants to use the cars at the same time. Same shit is going to happen with computers.
>>107865471I have a craptop with w11, and it uses 1.5 GB on startup
5850X3D when?
>>107865501
>>107863743and it may or may not torch your CPU
>>107865471>>107865501Now is the time for our hero to arise.
>>1078653913 years, 5 years, who knows? Maybe once Noctua is done with theirs that model could be a guaranteed 5. Some might fail on cheap pumps, some might last a lot longer and just require a refill and have ports to allow for it (usually behind the warranty sticker).If you buy a budget AIO from big brands like Thermalright, just plan to get another one in 3 years and have it on hand when the old one fails. They're cheap enough. Or have an air cooler handy as the backup instead while you wait for a replacement AIO.
it's worse at higher resolutions
>>107865339Long shot but try mashing the BIOS key like DEL or F2 even if nothing comes up on the screen. I kept getting a black screen with my 5700X3D upgrade until I started mashing F2 way longer than usual.
>>107865391Nah, ignore their advice
>>107865339reset cmos and it'll post
>>107865582Yeah after reading this >>107865529 I barely want to bother. Maybe I can just undervolt it pretty low and that will help with the temps.
>>107863411it's funny how gigabyte has this reputation for making trash, but at least for AM5, they've had a lot less issues than most other manufacturers as far as I know
>>107865339Check to see if the ram is loose. When I move my 5800x3d build the ram always falls out and won't post.
you don't need water cooling for a single ccd cpu, you never did, people buy it because water cooling is cheap nowadays, thermalright pa140 or royal pretor 130 ULTRA is enough for 9800x3d
>>107865606I don't think their motherboards were ever really the primary driving force for their negative press, it was their exploding powersupplies and poorly cooled GPUs.
AM4 MOBO (MSI X570 Gaming Plus)32GB Ram (DDR4 2667MHZ)NVIDIA 3070AMD Ryzen 5 3600I've decided the CPU is the next upgrade. While staying on AM4, what would be the most reasonable upgrade? Use case is primarily gaming but I've been getting into local servers and locally hosted services. I have zero interest in a threadripper, but want to stay on the AMD platform. I'm also alright waiting and hunting for a deal. The 3600 does the job but it's getting a bit long in the tooth and would be best served moving to a secondary rig. Budget: $250Country: US
>>107865339unplug the psu before resetting the cmos
>>107865606I have a haswell era gigabyte motherboard that still works perfectly, almost 15 years old, it's in my nas
>>107864995its crazy how the 860 evo goes from 250gb at the lowest to 4tb at the highest
>>107865617wait for x3d am4 new inventory, it's coming
>>107865339Try reseating the ram sticks, fiddling some more with the cmos battery and spamming the bios key during startup. Had a similar issue recently and just did random shit until it posted.
>>107865562>24gbdamn that makes 32gb feel limitingi guess 48gb is the sweetspot for future proofing
>>107865599>Maybe I can just undervolt it pretty lowNo, you will not. You can try though.>crashes
>>107865562Unused RAM is wasted RAMDoesn't actually need all that RAM
Should I buy the 4 year protection plan if I buy a 5070 Ti?
>>107865663No because you get a three year manufacturer's warranty for free
>>107865663none of us will be alive in 4 years, drumpf is not going out without a bang
>>107865667calm down klaus shcwab
Almost bought Nvme SSD 2TB for 185€, feeling disgusted right now.Its just fucking storage memory.Delete some old games on your drives, stop data hoarding.
>>107865637There's a reason I said maybe.
>>107865674>Delete some old games on your drives, stop data hoarding.No. Kiss your sister.
>>107863931>JUST 3 MORE YEARS UNTIL THE END OF PANEL BURN IN.nanorods are still a burn-in type tech, they develop a coating, though i don't know if it was from use or just over timemicroled is also a burn-in tech by the way, just nothing is as vulnerable to burn-in as oled which burns in to human perceptible levels after a scant 3 months of screen on time
>>107865674>t.
>>107865622yeah I think an old PC of mine with an AM3 gigabyte board still exists at my parent's place, and never stopped working>>107865615I think some have a particular hateboner for their mb software suite, but pretty much all of those are shit
>>107865682ROLL TIDE
>>107865468>but it's just like robotaxis: you don't use your car all day (probably), so it doesn't make financial sense to pay for one that's just sitting around. It'll be way cheaper if that car is someone else's that you use occasionallyWhat the fuck country do you even live in?50% of America unironically thinks a man is gay if he doesn't drive some kind of pickup truckThe only places where robot taxis will take off are the same places regular taxis do, dense metropolitan areas where many people don't even own a car now
>>107865674>Just accelerate the decay of your (as you say) ludicrously expensive drive by constantly rewriting 100+gb every week
>>107862493i hope you all have boughted your gpus before the gpu winter
>buy sff 5070ti cause I was paying attention to the price more than what it was>it doesn't come with any weight supportI'm guessing they think it's not heavy enough, but I still feel like it should need one. Now I have to buy my own.
>>107865674Condolences for being unable to buy in 2023, when SSDs could be had for a song. It was a beautiful time, but alas it couldn't last.
>>107865738RTX 3080 tiRTX 4080 SuperRX 7060 XT 16gbI'll weather this all out OK.
>>107863901im still using my 2500k/650it. so not sure what you're laughing aboutokay wtf this captcha is literally impossible. mine are getting hard every day something is fucked
>>107865782hiroshimoot is getting a little too desperate over getting more 4chan pass subs
>>107865757This is what they took from us
>>107864995870 EVO is the successor.
>>107865782How are you doing them every day and STILL getting 3 different tasks?
>>107865782i was GONNA say this user has been confirmed as a robot but wtf is thisi got it eventually but it genuinely looked like four lines at first
>>107865782tfw you just have to select two shapes that don't belong
Hey guys hypothetically speaking, just how many fat old truckers dudes would I have to suck off before I’m able to afford a 5090? I’ll charge $20 for each blowie
Well, this is frustrating trying to buy a couple of NAS drives and multiple stores are limiting them to 1 per customer. I might just have to suck up shipping costs from several stores.
>>107865887140-200. Depends on the exact model, sales tax, etc.
>>107865892Gigabyte Aorus Master Ice, for an all white build
Are KryoSheets worth it?
>>107865750Just buy them. Those aluminum screw tube supports are dirt cheap. Supports built into cases should just be standard practice.
>>107865830But isn't it asking for the lines in between the shapes? Man I want to get some of these more esoteric puzzles, am I the only one that enjoys this a little? But I'm just being given a lot of the same odd-one-out puzzles.
>>107865919https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768452199582496.webm
>>107865839only until your cookies get reset...
>>107865967its not fun and breaks my 4chan appim never buying a 4chan pass hiroshimoot
>>107865919VERY but not that overpriced one. just get the cheapest one. it's so good not having to change paste be careful putting it on, it rips
>>107865967no, the shape is shown with what's supposed to be shadowsthis one got generated with a lightsource low and aligned with the edge, so you can only see some of the edges
>>107865950I plan to, just wish I got an "official" one just because. I hear they're better to be put in the middle though. Maybe I'll buy two, maybe even three. Maybe I should buy one of those vertical holders instead.
I'm still running a gtx 1060, so it's time for a new computer.A Linux machine for 1440p 144hz gaming with a three monitor setup.Buying in Sweden with a budget up to 50000 sek, but I'm not looking to spend big bucks for marginal improvements.I've spitballed a build to the best of my lacking abilities and would appreciate any input on compatibility issues, bottlenecks, overpriced parts, etc etcCase: Fractal Design Meshify 3 XL Svart SolidCPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9900X 4.4 GHz 76MBGPU: ASUS Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB TUF Gaming OCMotherboard: MSI Pro X870E-PRAM: G.Skill 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL32 Flare X5 Svart AMD EXPOStorage: Samsung 9100 PRO M.2 NVMe Gen5 2TB with heatsinkStorage: Toshiba MG10 Enterprise 20TBCPU cooling: Noctua NH-U14SPSU: Corsair HX1200i 2025 ATX 3.1 1200W
>>107866235do you need a 12 core cpu
>>107866124I have two, one that came with my card and another tube type bought later. Case is a fishtank so there's little room for the first to hold it up with fans in the way, being a wide-base type. Bought the 2nd to prop up the front of the card, it is sitting in between the front two fan bodies.
>>107866235>he's going AyyMDead in the age of DLSS 4.5Ohnononono they never lear
>>107866244I don't really know. It's not a too steep increase in price, and afaik emulation requires more from the CPU than the GPU.
>>107866315emulation requires faster cores, not more cores, parallelism is limited
>>1078663159900x is a bad choice since its logically a 6+6 cpu where using more than 6 will have negative performance scaling in emulation because of NUMAif you want an emulation cpu, the 9800x3d is the best choice for am5
>>107866324So I'd be better off with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 104MB or Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 40MB?
>>107866359I think you should wait 2 weeks for the 9850X3D and get that one.
>>1078663696 weeks you mean? only the review embargo is up in 2 weeks while the actual launch is on 28 Feb
>>107866416I'd wait
>>107866369Cool, thanks.Trying to get a handle on all different components and manufacturers all at once only every ten years or so is hard enough without keeping track of upcoming releases.
at this point I fully believe the 5850X3D is going to be a thing.
>>107866359>>107866369>>107866443>but I'm not looking to spend big bucks for marginal improvements9850X3D only has a minor clock speed upgrade for better or worse, which technically does give emulation a leg up but it will also cost more with worse value. I'm waiting for its release to see how useful or useless this refresh model is for RPCS3/Shad/Xenia/Xemu emulation. If it's not worth the money then I'll grab a 9800X3D off of Aliexpress in March in time for their anniversary sale.
>>107865782>>107865830yall motherfuckers are DUMB
>>107862493It's in CAD but any opinions on the budget distribution on this "deal" I got? Ram came out surprisingly cheap. Thinking of parting out half of the parts and spending a small premium to upgrade them with better parts
>>107865512>>107865562Oh mein Gott
>>107866702>5080>SFF model>52%NGMI
>>107865692why would you ever install ANY brand of software for the motherboard? none of them are good, all 1gb+ of random shit that u dont need.
i fell for the QD OLED meme...
My memtest only fails on the block copy test, nothing else, is this a speed issue or a timing issue or both?
Didn't you guys get the memo that there's a conspiracy to take away your PCs and make you use cloud terminals
Which of these two laptops would be better and why?https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0FMYJK33Bhttps://www.amazon.in/dp/B0FN4L7DHD/Thanks
>>107866702>asus prime MB>zotac GPUholy fucking poorfag
>>107867041I have a similar HP victus model and if you put pressure underneath the trackpad it presses the button which is annoying
>>107867041>https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0FN4L7DHD/This one. Intel processors, especially a few gens old are power hogs.The Ryzen can also get you better FPS on integrated graphics if you're running on battery.Lastly, every HP I've had was terrible unless it was a business laptop, although all consumer grade laptops are kind of shit.
>>107867095>>107867091thanks, not really looking for gamingneed a laptop in this budget for AIML and Cybersecurity work
>>107867109That make it even easier. There's an NPU on the ryzen laptop.
>>107867128>cpu aioh nononono
>>107867152Hope you like 45 minutes of battery life then. At that point, why are you getting a laptop.
>>107867128>>107867167That wasn't meThank you
Anyone here uses a KVM switch? Specifically this ugreen one?I'm thinking to buy a DisplayPort one to finally connect my monitor to my company issued laptop so I could finally utilize my setup but my main concern is this might not be able to stream HDR high refresh rate content.
>>107867242I just swap inputs on my monitor with deskflow for kb and mouse.
>>107865339>>107865339sorry everybody. turns out the issue was uefi/secure boot settings making my boot drive unreadable. discovered this through testing whether or not a ventoy live usb would boot. had to reinstall my boot loader and that fixed it. yay :D
>The RTX 5070 Ti Has Been Killed Off>5060Ti 16GB is dead tookek
>>107867456>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yteN21aJEvE>its realmfw
>>107867242High bit rate video connections are incredibly finicky, so you could very well be right that adding extra shit in-between could fuck it up. I don't use that KVM but I've messed around with some HDMI switches and getting anything beyond 4k 60Hz to work properly and reliably is a giant pain in the ass.For your use case I would suggest just using a USB-only switcher for your mouse / kb and 2 separate inputs on your monitor. If you have something that can do HDR and high refresh rate then I'm sure it's not some absolute bottom of the barrel shit with a single input. Yes it will be more of a pain in the ass to fiddle with the monitor's input selection as well but it's better than potentially having something unreliable.I have a monitor that can do 4k 144Hz HDR over HDMI and after fucking around with several HDMI switchers, many different cables, including optical cables which should theoretically not suffer signal losses, my ultimate conclusion was to give up on the switch and just plug shit into the monitor's ports directly. Kind of sucks but it is what it is, video bitrates have gotten so high that even moving that shit around over inexpensive cables is a problem.
>>107867499I love this clown world.
>>107866786to turn off rgb lol
>>107867545openrgb does that and uses like 17mb of ram
I used to have buyer's remorse about getting the RTX 4070 Super, and now with the GPU shortage looming, I am lucky to get a decent GPU before the PC market goes to hell. I am going to use this GPU for all it's worth, just as I did with my GTX 1060 6GB.
>>107867499Ayyamdee will fumble this opportunity so hard
>>107867499inb4 5090 gets EOL'd and the $1800 5080 replaces it as the flagship
>>107866457If they released that for $250 or so, it would sell pretty well. I'd certainly buy one and stay on AM4 well into the 2030s.
>>107867584I would not be opposed to EOL the *90 card and Nvidia shifting all of their AI GPUs to the latest bleeding edge node while keeping their consumer series segmented out the prior mature node next-gen. A reset to when the *80-class card was the flagship consumer card (no Titans, or *90s) that had a $699 or $799 MSRP while the cards meant for non-gaming like the old Quadros/Teslas were something else entirely that didn't cannibalize stock for gaming cards.
>>107867550openrgb has pretty limited support for ram modules
>>107867499nice, my 16gb is going to be stretched into a few more years of being good enough due to ai retards.
5080GODS... we won
>>107867499>bought a 4070 tis for genshin so I could play 4k60hz on my brand new tv>people laugh at my decision >1 year later, this happens
>>107867629Nice prediction, maybe they'll re-launch the 4090 on 5nm as the rtx 6080 and just skip the 6090 entirely.... possibly a few tweaks here and there to support newer features but largely gamers will be forgotten.
I boughted a 5070 Ti in June.all smiles
>>107867653Nvidia only makes something like 8% of their money on gaming now anyway so it would make no sense to keep their AI & non-AI cards on the same node fighting for wafers. Let the Enterprise/DC market whales pay through the nose for the absolute latest tech lithography with their mountains of bank loans while gamers would be fine with the same or only slightly better performance if it came with massive uplift in stock allotments and reduced prices.
>>107867499As soon as I saw my supplier of outlet 50-series GPUs raise his prices on 5070 Ti's from $800 to $1000 I knew I hesitated too long.
>>107867499RIP waitfags
>tfw passed on an outlet 5070 Ti for 690 Euro last month5070 FOR 600 EURO HERE I COME
>tfw hoping my amazon order for the 5070ti prime is going to go through and not just suddenly be canceled
>ask chatgpt about what it thinks about this latest news >shits all over nvidia's "artificial scarcity" strategy causing a bad market forcing bad decisionsFRIENDLY FIRE FRIENDLY FIRE
>>107866664last time i was here it was still sliding letter window captchas and now it's "comprehend specific instructions to proceed" bots must be getting wild
>>107867653A 384-bit flagship that doesnt need 666W to operate would be a welcome upgrade
>>107865919Getting one when I buy my next cpu
>>107866416Isn't it 29th January? That's what I've been reading
>>107867875thats only for the review embargo, yes
>>107867879Review embargo is 28th
>>107867770>5070 at 600 euro out of stock in proshop TOO LATE
>>107867770>>107867938time to look into getting a used 4070ti
>>107867499>5070ti is killBut Jensen said AI was gonna make things better
I have a Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2motherboard and a Seagate FireCuda 530 1Tb ssd (I got it for free brand new a few years ago).I know the ssd has its own heatsink, so I must remove the mobo's heatsink.But can't I use a naked 500Gb ssd for windows, that will use the mobo's heatsink, and use the firecuda ssd for games in the secondary ssd slot of the mobo?If so, which "naked" ssd should I get for windows that suits my motherboard? I just need 500Gb since it'll just be for wondows and softwares. The games will be in the firecuda.That way I dont "waste" the motherboard's heatsink.Sorry if its a dumb question, the last time I built a pc was 12 years ago, I'm unfamiliar with ssd.
>>107868091WD SN 7100 or SN 850x(if close in cost)
>>107867499I bought 2 MSI modes yesterday. Gonna wait a few months and sell it for double
whats the best 5070 ti model? might just say fuck it and buy it while it's around $800 before shit hits the fucking fan even harder
>>107868113ASUS or MSI if you need cool and quiet model. Cheapest one if you use headphones.
thinking about getting a WD My Book 8TB to store random files, videos and movies. good idea?
>>1078681135070ti is being kill right now, go forth with utmost speed
>>107868130Just wait 2 more weeks and gpu prices will lower
My 5080 doesn't overclock that good. ;_;
>>107868101Thank you anon, will look them up. Goddamn, ssd prices are expensive. I knew I got lucky paying my ram sticks on its original price, but I didnt know how lucky I was to got the ssd for free as well.
>>107868137...to $0 cuz no stock lol
>>107868137https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yteN21aJEvENumber go up
>>107868125HDDs are a bitch. I would just buy a cheap m.2 enclosure and toss a 4 tb drive in there.
AMD GPUs are shit.
>>107862493>Prebuilt fag (2,000 USD PC)>Took ram off just cause>Oh shit can't put it back in>Pressure ample enough but motherboard might break, ram still won't go in>Apply more? Shit! Ram still won't go in>Maybe I have to take the motherboard off the chassis?>Remove GPU>Unplug some wires>Second guess myself and try to put ram back in again>Still wont work>Maybe if I apply some support on the motherboard from the back of my chassis which has the motherboard's other side exposed? >Apply support on one hand and push ram back in on the other>It works>Put it back in and reattach gpu and every cable>It doesn't work>Go to crisis mode>After ten retries of turning it off and on again and praying>It worksTechno Magic is real you guys.
>>107868142what absolute clockspeed though? that's the only number that mattersmy 5090 taps out at 3400mhz in gpu-z's render test which is pretty bad. good ones can do 3500mhz
>>107868142People even bother with ambient GPU OC?
>>1078682843150 core clock.
>>107868327oh nyo....oh the bright side, +1600 memory on the 5080 is 33.2Gb/s which is decent
can someone find me a 5090 for $3k? how do I get one for that price
>ASUS reportedly says RTX 5070 Ti is no longer being produced, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB to followit's so over. their next super series will only have 8gb of vram I bet
really glad i bought my 7900 XT when i did
>>107868402why?
>>107868394HU is, not joking here, one of the most unreliable tech youtube channels there is.
>>107868394>Asus snitchedWill we see Asus slowly getting phased out of the GPU business by Nvidia
>>107868410>5070 ti out of production>5060 ti 16GB model is next>only 8 gb cards available meanwhile i can ride it out with this 20 gig card that plays anything i actually care about
>>107868402If nGreedia didn't try to scam people with pic related and released 16GB 4070Ti S from the beginning I would buy that instead of 7900XT.Still no need to upgrade until 2028.
>>107868469the 7900 XT is far more powerful then a 4070ti
>>107868394Holy shit I hope everyone upgradedhttps://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-new-geforce-rtx-50-allocation-scheme-prioritizes-the-top-sku-in-each-memory-tier
I dont understand how people can in 2026 pretend fsr3 is fine and gpus that are limited to it are a good buyit gets kinda assholey territory to shit on people for spending money on a thing but those products havent been recommended in these threads for example for like 5 years unless you're on linux
>>107868091I have the same 9070xt. It's nice if you uv, set a power limit and customize the fan curve, but the stock settings are insane.
>>107868486I would not go that far, they are often within 10% of each other.4070Ti should simply not exist.
>>107868508maybe those people don't use upscaling
>>107868508i don't use upscaling in the first place if i did have an nvidia card i still wouldn't use DLSS its still fake frames to me and it still introduces a boatload of unneeded input lag and to be honest im having trouble naming a game i play that i need it for
>>107868508FSR4 isn't good either so who cares
>>107868538nta but upscaling generally lowers input lag>>107868543fsr4 is fine
>>107868517the only ways thats possible is if the 5070ti is also within ten percent of the 4070ti
>>107868538>>107868526I didnt use upscaling until I bought a 3080 and clicked enable dlss in a game and saw it look fine while fps went way up and kept enabling it.
>>107868549now you are telling outright lies >>107868554i tried it and i dont care for it i dont see any performance boost i would ever need you will never sell me on fake frames
>>107868549>fsr4 is finei have a 9070 XTFSR4 is blurry shit and i would never base my GPU purchase on an upscaler
>>107868554and I was excited to use upscaling until I bought a 5060ti and turned on dlls quality, which resulted in vegetation in games turning into a blurry mess
>>107868553Why?4070Ti is slightly slower than 7900XT, 4070Ti S is slightly faster than 7900XT.5070Ti is 10-15% faster than 4070Ti S.
I just bought a 9800x3d at the start of the month and they confirmed the release date of the 9850x3d to be 27th of January, I haven't opened the box yet so I am within a 1 month return window, should I just go swap it out for a 9850x3d as soon as they release?
>>107868562>FSR4 is blurry shit and i would never base my GPU purchase on an upscalerI wouldn't either, it's fine compared to DLSS (4 cause I haven't tried 4.5) cause that's blurry shit too
>>107868561>you will never sell me on fake framesDLSS isn't frame gen, its rendering at a lower resolution and using an algorithm to upscale it.
>>107868576Would you pay $150 extra for 4-5% higher benchmark performance?
>>107868516I've never undervolted before. But I would be using the computer for playing SM2, Darktide and TW WH3 (Jesus, they're all warhammer games wtf) and apparently they're pretty gpu intensive.
>>107868573none of this is true the 7900 xt is pretty much neck and neck with the 5070 ti infact the reason i didnt go for a 5080 is because i saw the 7900 ti something within 10 FPS of it in benchmarks and i just didn't care about that tiny of an increase bottom line is i was never EVER going to buy a 5070ti of any variety
>>107868588It's going to be THAT much more? Screw that, I'll just OC the everloving fuck out of the 9800x3d if I feel like I need to.Time to start assembling then.
http://amazon.in/dp/B092XTSPC1/is ADATA reliable?
>>107868587and that's upscaling the same trick we used to make fun of consoles for i will not use it
>>107868599It's not, you can cherry pick some benchmark like raster CP77 but overall what I'm saying is correct.Unless you are talking Linux specifically.
>>107868579>4 cause I haven't tried 4.54.5 is apparently oversharpened insteadso they're adding fake detail to hide the lack of real detail>>107868602>I'll just OC the everloving fuck out of the 9800x3d if I feel like I need toyou're cucked by the +200 boost offset limityou can never reach 9850X3D clocks without an expensive eCLK boardbut you're not gonna feel like you need to do that anyway, i just wanted to complain about AMD putting arbitrary limits in their products to force you to pay more
>>107868617it was in many benchmarks i looked at they where trading blows some the 7900 xt was a little ahead some the 59070ti was a little ahead and some it was neck and neck again ther is no world NONE where i was EVER buying a 5070 ti its av s shit tier card made for rednecks and trailer park dwellers who fuck their sisters
>>107868602It will be because you have to pay New&Shinny™ Tax and and you could buy 9800X3D below MSRP.It will drop in price but soon after launch it will be overpriced.
>>107868596Try -60 or -70mV, vram at 2700mhz with fast timings and a power limit of -10 to -15%. Resulted in way better thermals for me (hotspot delta at 20°) with no noticeable performer loss. And check if you got Samsung or Hynix vram, the former should have temps below the hotspot, for the latter it's sadly normal that they go completely bonkers (95° or so).
>>107868639Show me those benchmarks.
>>107868394Good I ordered a 5060ti 16gb a couple of days ago, it arrived at the post office today. I'll pick it up tomorrow, I assume it will have been stolen by then.
>>107867499Does this mean 5080s and 5090s are going to be cheaper?
>>107868659
>>107868651im not showing you benchmarks for an forgone conclusion like " im not nor would i ever buy a 5070 ti" what part of this are you not understanding? i already stated had i gone nvidia i would have purchased a 5080 the 5070 ti is shit
>>107868576ONLY RETURN IT AFTER YOU HAVE THE 9850X3D IN HANDYOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
>>107862493two oled questions:1. when is true rgb layout OLED coming out?2. what's the best glossy oled currently?
>>107868649>for the latter it's sadly normal that they go completely bonkers (95° or so)yep, for me it sits at 60 C on idle and rises to 90 C pretty quickly under loadi tried the linux script to undervolt the VRAM from 1.35V to 1.2V, it was actually stable at stock speed (2518 MHz) but it didn't reduce temps at allvery strange behavior
>>107868633Eh, I feel like a 200mhz boost is probably going to be more than enough if I ever end up in a situation where overclocking actually becomes necessary, at this point it looks like I'll be able to save up for years for my next build quite cozily with what I currently have.>>107868641>and you could buy 9800X3D below MSRPNot where I live, sadly, but that will affect the price of the 9850x3d as well so it not like that really matters, it'll probably be overpriced as hell.>>107868678I would have obviously done the swap in-store, but it seems like I'm not going to do the swap anyways, already started assembling anyways.
>>107868576just OC 9800 to 5400 and you'll be within 2% of 9850X3D
>>1078686775080 was the scam card of this generation, it makes 5070Ti look like a great deal.
>>107868731i dont care im not paying for a card with a paltry 12 gigs of vram on it they should never ever ever EVER release ANY card with less than 16 gigs ever again only poor fucking people who live in trailer parks have 12 gigs of vram
>>107868750Are you high? Both 5070Ti and 4070Ti S are 16GB cards, same as 5080.
>>107868691Later this yeareither the Gigabyte MO27Q28GR WOLED or the 5th gen QD OLED
>>107868692dw anon, it's officially rated for 105°C and you get roughly 2% better performance in exchange for 40% worse temps
5070ti is the only passably 4k gamer GPU with sub 300W draw. Blackwell might be garbage but the card itself is the only one that still feels like something a nerd could afford.
>>107867499Fuck this company. I'm selling off all my shares.
My PC feels slow after upgrading to 5070
>>107868759still does not mean im going tio buy it its still a fuckin 5070 ti i dont know why you are still arguing with me you know its not going to get me to buy it there is nothing you could ever tell me that would make me buy a 5070 ti i would taker out a loan to get a 5090 first
>>1078688005060 Ti 16 GB and 5070 are also fine for 4K.D L S SLSS
>>107868812nah that's just windows 11 being utter fucking trash in general its mostly vibe coded by jeets now
>>107868813I'm not telling you to buy anything. The argument was about 7900XT being much faster than 4070Ti/S which it isn't.
>>107868842except that it is none of it matter anyway as my next purchase is likely going to be a phone
>>107868827they really aren't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcRGBeOENLgWhy isnt this more common?
>>107868793i know, i don't worry about it, max i've seen is like 92 Cit's just strange how even with a -150mv undervolt it didn't affect temperatures at allpower went down a few watts so it was definitely applying
Will my 1060 and Ryzen 5 2600 still work this year? Or do I need an upgrade?
>>107868855I'm using a 4070 for 4K right now, and it's decent. No complaints. It's better than 1440p with a 4070. If you think the 4070 is a good 1440p card, it's an even better 4K card.
FACT: all cards would easily be 20% faster if windows 11 was not a complete pile of shit
>>107868800>>107868827If your card needs to put as asterisk beside it's 4k capabilities it is not a 4k card.
>>107868869>hold stethoscope up to pc caseYep still tickin.
>>107868881>If impossible would happen then . . .
i need to buy a monitor but i don't know how much i should drop on it. i don't want to spend too much but i saw a AOC 27" Q27G42ZE on sale for 160 euros but that seems too cheap.basically my needs are>240hz or at least 200hz>1440p>26-27">play a lot of online shooters and action gamesany tips on how much i should be looking to spend? i don't care about all the bells and whistles. i'm currently using a xg2402 viewsonic, which i've always liked, so i'd like something in that weight class (but with the stuff i need) >>107868576i wouldn't bother unless the 9850x3d is literally the same price as the 9800x3d, which i doubtthe 9800x3d currently blows the fuck out of any gaming CPU needs and will likely to do so for the entirety of this AI gaming winter
>>107868881If all Indians left the planet the world's would improve by 20% as well and the windows problem would follow suit
>>107867499i literally woke up, saw these news, and immediately ordered one. i was already planning to but this pushed me over the line. fuck my fomo ass
so apparently the next series of nvidia cards is due out in 2027 what will it be like?
>>107868576Name a single game the 9800x3d can't handle and why you'd need to spend even more for a 9850x3d. And no, Skyrim with 8000 script heavy mods does not count
>>107865910To match your all white insides?
>>107868857cause a lot of people don't live in chyna and don't have access to a brother john
>>107868917bro thats like 8 financial quarters away i doubt even nvidia knows
>>107868917Expensive.I hope you are ready to sell your kidney.
>>107868917>seriesit'll be one card only, and it will be $5000
>>107868917It will depend on the ram situation but it may be extremely expensive or vram starved, personally though i expect everything to be delayed until 2028 when the datacenter products finally move on to DDR6 decoupling the dram market
>>107868659all of this is caused by the upcoming vram shortage... at best they're prioritizing those two cards to even keep them in stock at inflated prices and at worst, the 5090 will get soft EOL'd and 5080 will be hard to come by
>>107868895>any tips on how much i should be looking to spend?1440p 240 Hz IPS is essentially bottom of the barrel at this point. It's supposed to be cheap. 1440p OLED is under $500 now.
>>107868902you will thank yourself in 6 months when 5070tis shoot up to $1400 and 5080s are $2.4k
>>107868917the default payment method for the 6090 will be through klarna's 0% credit option and will cost just four $3000 monthly payments
>>107868917New node, so better efficiency, which means the behemoth can be faster. Likely expensive, likely similar VRAM to the RTX 50 series. RTX 60 Super will likely get the VRAM bump a year or so later. The AI winter is here: batten down the hatches, enjoy the hardware you've got.
>>107868917Jensen is currently looking at the viability of releasing a 6090 with less vram than the 5090 but with exclusive dlss 6.9
>>107869006i heard IPS is shit for gaming but it was a redditor that told me that. basically i'm between dropping 200€ on an IPS monitor on sale or a 400-500€ on an OLED monitor. i'm just not sure if i would notice the difference (i currently have a TN monitor)>>107869010yea i am trying to think of it as an investment but it's still supremely gay to me since i don't actually need a new GPU. i assume my old 3080 will also increase in value because it has 12gb of vram
>>107869047i dont know if they would have the balls to release a flagship card with LESS vram than its predecessor. like maybe they could if they released 2 versions of it, and the one with actually good amount of VRAM is like $10k
i love watching the chaos unfold from my $3k overkill bullshit rig i built back in february.
>>107868394>Got the 5060 ti 16gb because i barely play games anymore and i just mess with AI >if i use an agressive enough upscaler setting at 1440p i can get 80-90 fps epic setttings on unreal slop or 60k high settings on my 4k 60hz tv Feel like the 5070 ti was the last chance to get into 4k epic settings/high refresh gaming but at the same time i care more about getting a pulsar monitor 1440p when the 60hz is up because my favorite games are fighting games. Hope the neural texture bullshit happens in 4 years and then i can buy a 8gb-12gb 7070 and play 4k if gayming somehow save itself but who knows how this card will age, there are even meme videos of people upscaling from 540p to 4k using dlss tweaks and shit looks decent to me
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i have a 12700k with 64 gigs of DDR4 ram should i panic buy a 32 gig kit of DDR5 and just hold onto it until i am ready to upgrade?
>>107869047>exclusive dlss 6.9Nice, one step closer to my graphics card being able to lick my balls and cook me breakfast
>>107868935just ship it to brother chang in china
>>107869081Yeah no
>>107869052Personally I would go with 4K 32" OLED. 1440p OLED is a decent stop gap if you're going to upgrade to a next gen Pulsar monitor (not the LCD crap out now) ASAP. You'll probably see some difference between your old monitor and a new IPS, as TN is the worst looking of the panel types. OLED is the night and day difference
>>107869081Do the panic buying part but on a 48gb or 64gb kit
>>107869081I'd rather have 64gigs of DDR4 over 32 gigs of DDR5 every time
>>1078691101440p is the max i want to use since im a compfagi'll try to look for OLEDs on sale and try one out for a month, then return it if i don't like it i guess.
>>107869061ThisPeople who haven't built a PC at this point never needed or wanted one.Everything but GPUs where the most easily purchased thing imaginable, even from the perspective of someone who really doesn't agree with post crypto/covid/AI pricing.Anons here could have been rocking with a $150 12900k with some discount board and 32gb of ram for cheapStill wouldn't call it their fault as I do believe RAM companies like gskill, corsair, etc are scalping far beyond the actual increases in RAM price but inaction in the last few years shows they never where interested
>>107865258see if it can run crysis
>>107865151Is the last 10% for fapping?
>>107865258sell it for 10k next year. welcome to the investor center.
>>107863146what display are you referring to? no samsung 48" is betteronly 55" can even possibly be better and only the s95fwhat the fuck is a woot>>107863129I'll probably just wait after all, not being able to run vrr currently and next years C6H will be the same panel for 1000€ cheaperidk
>>107864716streamers despite their iq already bought 64gb long ago
>>107865258spend 4-5k more on the 83" G5
>>107867499actually kek holy hsiet
>>107869081sit out until ddr6maybe upgrade to a 13900k or 14900k
>>107864887>MMCXI think my MSI mobo is using that.
If I have an OLED monitor in a dark room, do I need bias lighting? I read conflicting answers.
>>107870984maybe reduces eyestrain maybe notyou dont need anything
>>107863324i have a msi x870 tomahawk, the first one i got arrived DOA, the refurbished one i got after i RMA'd it was fine though.Once every few months it used to have a 5+min boot time because it needed to reteach itself to get the ram timings right, but a bios update fixed that.
>>107865339you probably bricked the motherboard with a bad bios-flash. It can happen. Get a new mobo.
