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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K (DDR4), 9/7600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

-Check your 12VHPWR connector due to melting issues (all cards)

>PSU
Buying guide:
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>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED, not available in all regions)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Previous: >>107862493
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Speaking of monitors, are black smearing and ghosting really that dramatically noticeable in any use case, or does this only become a problem for esportsfags?
My use cases are mostly weebshit watching/reading and casual gaming (I plan to lock the monitor at 120hz forever)
The problem is that decently priced 1440p IPS monitors simply does not exist in my third world shithole, I'm either paying 2~3x more compared to VA screens, or I am left with the absolute bottom of the barrel nobrand monitors (white label chink garbage)
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i have a 12700k with 64 gigs of DDR4 ram should i panic buy a 32 gig kit of DDR5 and just hold onto it until i am ready to upgrade my CPU?
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>>107869096
DDR5 is simply not a big enough upgrade over DDR4 to justify the retarded prices
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>>107869096
Going from 64 to 32 is painful so no
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>>107869096
32gb is on the chopping block
48gb is the minimum for future proofing
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so what are the odds devs will finally have to optimize their games for current hardware rather than future hardware, especially if the ps6 get delayed
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>>107869109
>>107869111
but my 12700k is starting to feel long in the tooth
>>107869119
>future proofing
we all know this is a myth
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>>107869127
Switch 2 just came out and so did plenty of AMD handhelds. That's basically the target hardware. Old Ampere / RDNA2 2 hardware.
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>>107869132
12700k is still good. How are you defeating it?
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>>107869096
unless your DDR4 is really slow that won't accomplish anything
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>>107869142
im not but windows has a delay on starting shut down now and i cant help but think its cause the CPU is getting older
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Well, it's been a good run guys
Part 3766477436
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>>107869158
Wtf no
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>>107869127
eh i honestly doubt any companies that didn't give a fuck about optimizing before are going to care about it now. they'll churn out a few flops and then dip out of the industry. the companies that do already optimize will do a lot better in this environment. AA and indies will probably also do a bit better.

i'm also wondering if it's just me, or if consumer sentiment entirely is turning against gaming. like i don't really especially want to play new games anymore. i like marvel rivals and i play friendslop sometimes, but other than that i don't really care about anything new that comes out. nowadays i'd rather spend my money on real things i can touch and i can guarantee won't be made retarded later, like airsoft guns, tools for tinkering, and funny looking clothes
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>>107869158
by that reasoning you might as well assume that the output in the power station is fluctuating
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>>107869087
Even scrolling on slow VAs will cause white text to disappear on a black background. Whether this is actually a problem I don't know, as I've never personally had to deal with it.
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What's the word on the street, will SSD prices go down or what?
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>>107869178
Up, nigga. They're NAND
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>>107869163
so why is there such a long delay between hitting shut down and the computer actually shutting down it was not like this a few months ago it takes like 30-60 seconds for the " shutting down" screen to appear now or are we all ready to admit windows 11 just sucks major cocks?
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>>107869178
Not for a while, if even
Now they're saying PSUs and even CPU coolers will go up
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>>107869184
Lots of reasons, mostly OS related. Could be bloatware too. Reinstalling your os would probably give you the day 1 experience.
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>>107869184
Explain, logically, how your CPU could EVER possibly be the root cause.
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>>107869067
owl penis brand
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>>107869200
this install is from a day ago and it still does it and its done with autounattend.xml to remove the bloat
>>107869205
it could be the CPU the RAM or the storage but the CPU is the oldest part
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>>107869127
>[mh:wilds] apparently constantly checks whether you own every piece of released DLC, and for each DLC that you do not own, the performance gets worse.
>Account 1: Base game only with severe FPS drops (20-25 FPS in hubs)
>Account 2: All DLC installed with smooth performance (80+ FPS)
>Capcom was forced to cancel a technical lecture it was scheduled to hold at the Computer Entertainment Developers Conference 2025 (CEDEC) event in Japan due to harassment from players.
This makes me happy. Honestly serves Crapcom right for the absolute state of REngine. It's probably the worst engine in regular use today. Worse than Unity even.
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>>107869173
AA and indies aren't really any better they just don't stick RT everywhere so you can run their games in native 4k most of the time.
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>>107869178
This is old word on the street. TLC prices go up. QLC prices stay the same.
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>>107869229
That's a novel way of doing pay to win
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>>107869215
Yeah the problem is probably that you used a debloater despite not being all that tech savvy. Those things arent to be used carelessly...

None of those components grow slower with physical age...
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>>107869229
RE 2 Remake was running on my old 1070 at 60+ FPS maxed. It's not the engine.
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the 1080ti I bought 8 years ago for 750 is dying bros... I am distraught
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Test
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>>107869250
So? Had a good run.
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>>107869208
fuck u
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>>107869244
i didn't use a "debloater" i used an autounattendf.xml file from a generator and it didn't cause problems in the past i swear people never listen
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>>107869215
Lol CPU and RAM don't get slower with age retard.
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>>107869250
5070 12 GB is still easily available for MSRP. Time for an upgrade, a huge upgrade. Hope you're just a regular weak kneed fag and not a destitute weak kneed fag
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>>107869186
PSU prices going up unfortunately makes sense. It's so fucking sad to see industry you once loved kill itself first by pandering to imaginable audiences then refusing to sell hardware to gamers. End of an era bros. End of an era.
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>>107869256
it did, but now relative equivalent gpus are an assload more expensive
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>>107869261
It didn't cause problems in the past, but it EVENTUALLY will because you've essentially "broken" your windows installation and future updates can and will eventually break things further because the updates will expect components or files that you previously had removed.
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>>107869266
but software gets more demanding especially windows 11
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>>107869279
its an LTCS copy it only gets security updates its either going to be that or linux i WIL NOT tolerate copilot
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>>107869297
>release version ltsc with only security updates
You're running an extremely fringe windows installation and wondering why weird shit is happening...
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Maybe I'm a fool, but hear me out.

I bought a good windows laptop in 2012, was forced to upgrade it to 8.1, 10, I think it's running a kind of sketchy windows 11 now. And I've replaced the HD and fan, it's beat to shit, so I'm looking to upgrade.

But really, really strange thing.
New PCs seem to have worse specs then my 2012 laptop. On paper, way better. But then you check the fine print.

The OS of new PCs weights 5 times more than mine does, their advertised HD space isn't actually their usable HD space. And they come with gigs of bloatware which it seems can't be deleted any more. I had to change my system to stop windows force downloading bloat, usually redundant service packs which just accumulate over time.
Because I just put a new HD into my old laptop, as HDs cost bizarrely little now, that's no real gain in a new PC in that respect.

Then the RAM, new PCs are meant to have amazing ram specs, and again, on paper they're way better. But in practice it seems like their idle ram (if that's a thing) is enormous. They run so many background processes, mostly system background, security related, that I'm not really convinced.

Graphics? Again, really strange. New PCs seem to run optimised graphics, and claim the performance as the optimised rate. But hardware wise? Not convinced. They all have this weird photoshop look, and while they look a heap better I'm not convinced the hardware is really better per-ce, it's just optimised, which i suspect drains system resources.

So i leave the store more puzzled then anything else. There doesn't seem to be anything my pc can't actually run, even in 2026, only app based programs that actively prevent my PC from trying to run them. Is this cope or is this a real thing?
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>>107869178
Already went up and continuing
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>>107869313
bloat? no its definitely fucked to the gills now, if anything stronger hardware just encouraged less optimization
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>>107869308
yes and i will not run stock did you not hear me? copilot is useless buggy bloated trash that serves no purpose other than being annoying and in the way like all "assistants" id rather deal with a slightly delayed shut down
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Did nvidia ever expand their ass-backwards list of 32-bit physx emulation list for 50 series? I only remember seeing mirrors edge and arkham there.
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>>107869350
Still the same 7 games afaik
Borderlands 2 is included too
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>>107869337
I've ran windows 11 since beta
I've never once encountered copilot
IDK what's with the brainworm that if a windows feature exists you must use it
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>>107869337
OK well a new cpu isnt going to fix your problem
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>>107869367
the next update it putting it into file explorer trust me it will be unavoidable at some point and if im not using it it shouldn't be there all of these "features" should be opt in or opt out
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>>107869360
hey I'm happy that alice is there too
replying ME and seeing empty flagpoles was rough.
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Waitsisters I don't feel so good
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>>107869382
Windows features are always opt outtable
You think every corporate network wants copilot in their file explorer?
Fuck no which is why there is basically a group policy for literally every windows feature
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The only positive about this whole situation is that 5070 ti is now rare and premium GPU (lol) and if it can't run new games probably nothing can.
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>>107869404
its also why there is autiounattend.xml which i use to remove all the features i dont want
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>>107869404
>group policy
>on most people's version of windows
Does he know?
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>>107869433
memory requires a different type of fab
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>>107869417
And it doesn't hand ANY downside, besides making you retarded enough to think your CPU age impacts shutdown time

Lmao what a fucking moron.
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>>107869415
5080 must be ultra premium bling bling boy tier then
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Is liquid cooling superior to air cooling if you want the max performance from an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, especially single-core performance?
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>>107869424
>can build pc
>can install os
>apparently incapable of choosing anything other than windows home
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>>107869445
it's the 2nd best GPoo on the planet so yes
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just panic bought a 5070ti after hearing the news like a good goyim. I probably would have bought a 5090 if it was actually around $3k but when it's $3.6k+ I'm just not going to even bother. upgrading from a 3080
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>>107869447
liquid with a >280mm radiator always cools better than air
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>>107869442
the only downside is not having the features your didnt want its literally a config file for the windows installer to make it as the file is called unattended it literally cuts the install time by 30 minutes to an hour while skipping the "OOTB experience" that wastes a ton of fucking time
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>>107869334
>stronger hardware just encouraged less optimization
That's obviously true to a degree, but to what extent? Because Jesus christ, I'm looking at the list of update packages for consoles and new systems I've hard blocked my PC trying to install, they must be 6 times larger than my entire OS. Not even joking.

Back in the day we had to put up with some pretty hideous video codex and lossy files, but we dumped them the second we could, and none were actually features of the PC itself. At one stage I was running a second PC just as a service stack for for rendering and imaging disks and these hideous files but these days i don't need to. But it's still the same PC I'm using.

There's fucked to the gills and then there's like... whatever the fuck this is now. Windows 11 home apparently needs 50 FUCKING GIGS to run smoothly, and runs 6 FUCKING GIGS of idle ram.
Literally what the fuck is that.

I'm looking at $3000 gaming PCs, with 16 gig of ram, and the OS will eat half of that straight up.

My fucking 2012 craptop came with i think 4, it had only two ram slots, and i don't think it was compatible with newer ram cards so I just jammed two 4gig cards into it I got for free.

But that means, based solely on idle RAM, my 2012 system, which was not high end, floats 6-7 gig of ram, and the $3000 gaming PC you could buy brand new today, is only floating 8.

Am I a total retard? Am I missing something here? I rip ram from old PCs for free, every junked office PC from 2010 has a ram card in it, i get a terabyte HD from old set top boxes.
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>>107869445
This nigga would own a 5080 Suprim Liquid.
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>>107869462
Only one company makes jeetpoos
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>>107869447
If you're getting a CPU like that you're going to get an expensive AIO to match it
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>>107869433
A lot of this shit is locked down by IP
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>>107869178
try asking again in 2027
because this year is guaranteed to have no drops
if anything they will keep getting more expensive
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>>107869462
That's the 4090 thoughever
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>>107869476
Windows 11 I've found to be lighter for disk usage
Kinda floored when I installed it in a virtual machine and disk usage was like 12GB versus 21GB for Windows 10
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>>107869523
correct but it's also 500W house fire while only being 30% more powerful at best
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>>107869545
The 5080 is a house fire as well, everything with that connector is.
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>>107869553
undervolted 5070 ti is equivalent to 6+8 pin PCE in term of power draw
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So are 5060 ti 16gb and 5070 ti 16gb rare limited EoL cards now? sure vram was expensive but they could just rise the prices rather than EoL them unless they were too good
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>>107869627
Who knows, maybe we will get Supers with yield optimized core counts and new pricing reflecting GDDR5 pricing. Doesn't really make sense for cut down GB203 to just disappear from the consumer market.
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When will MSI safeguard PSU release? I won't use a 5090 without it
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God am I glad I don't need an upgrade this decade
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>>107869178
Hey kid, want to buy 2TB TLC for $200?
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>>107869545
4090 only pulls 410W at most and usually only low 300s
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Is this worth upgrading to form a 3060 12gb if I also still have a r5 3600 CPU, or will the latter cause a bottleneck? I don't ever see my CPU use 100%
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>>107869698
>something is safe cause it was called safe
god you idiots fall for it everyime
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>>107869698
get a wireview pro ii
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>>107869698
You're a very dumb person.
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>>107869532
Windows 11 is very light in terms of dedicated space, which is why i was able to bootleg upgrade my decade old crap to run it. It's size would be impressive but the hog. Jesus. It will eat 40 gig and half your ram if you just happen to have that much.

A new Windows 11PC eats more memory in idle then my PC even runs at 100%.

And I don't want to talk about Windows to much, but when I'm looking at hardware it's entirely relevant.
My craptop from 2012 with $150 of upgrade runs almost as well as the brand new $3000 gaming PC they tried to sell me. So now I just have no idea what the fuck is going on.

Ram shortage? Nigger I have ram cards for days, all taken from high end 2000-2010 office hardware that only had it to play obnoxious video codex and inbred disk burning programs. I got a cardboard box full of RAM for free and niggers are saying there's a ram shortage.

Is genuinely impressive how large ram cards have got, but what the fuck are people actually doing with that much ram?
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>>107869698
imbecile
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Does anyone here own an Acer Nitro 5 (AN515-45 series)
I'm thinking of upgrading my RAM from 16 GB (2x8 GB) to 64 GB (2x32 GB) but (((acer))) says it only supports 32 GB in total.
When I run "wmic memphysical get maxcapacity" it returns 64 GB

If anyone has upgraded their RAM of Nitro 5 before, let me know xo
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just found out external hdd prices havent exploded yet
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>>107869731
upgrading to what?
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>>107869753
64gb should work
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So might be a stupid question but is ROPs issue still a thing with relatively new supply of GPUs?
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>>107869735
>>107869738
>>107869748
Retards, it checks any abnormality and starts beeping when the voltage is suspiciously high. You just have to turn it off to prevent melting because melting isn't INSTANT.

>>107869736
Those PSUs will do what wireview does
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>>107869754
I bought a new mybook just for posterity's sake in December
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>>107869753
> a maximum capacity of 32GB (two 16GB sticks), though some users report success with 64GB
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just played for a week with vrr (with vsync and also frame rate caps as well to see the difference) and it's honestly awsome. going back to non vrr feels like going from 144hz to 50hz.
>>107869731
my brother uses a 3600 and a 3060 12gb. beamng is like the only game that doesn't fully use the 3060 with his settings.
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>>107869766
not at all. that was fixed in the first 2-3 months
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>>107869780
-3 fps or did you go the calculation to get 0.3ms of buffer?
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>>107869770
so it relies entirely on the users ability to perceive quiet beeps from the back of their machine? god i hope you dont have headphones or loud speakers when you game
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>>107869759
Wow I'm retarded, somehow I forgot to type 5060ti
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>>107869798
The beeping is loud and the entire PC shuts down if you don't react.
The more expensive ones also have a pop-up on your screen.
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>>107869786
Thanks. Just feels weird that people keep mentioning it in the reviews like they won a lottery.
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>>107869770
>Those PSUs will do what wireview does
So why are you waiting for whenever they release that PSU instead of just getting a wireview now?
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>>107869808
>the entire PC shuts down if you don't react '
this should be what it does to start with
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>>107869806
it's all the same unless you're buying 4070 ti super or 5070 ti
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>>107869815
Those PSUs were announced recently, they already exist, I don't want to bother with yet another accessory when the all-in-one solution is at my doorstep
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>>107869791
did the -3 fps. also used the calculator with the 0.3 ms, and honestly it doesn't matter to me at high frame rates in story games. i'm also perfectly fine with using regular vsync in most games to limit my fps. i still wouldn't use vrr in something like cs2 since i get like 500 fps there and can still notice the input lag (it's like the only exception to me since it runs so great anyway).
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>>107869698
>MSI safeguard PSU
>beeps
that actually seems potentially really annoying, like 100x worse than a display telling you something is up
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>my reddit feed is suddenly full of dying 9800x3ds again but this time it's from asus on the same mobo as me
hrm i guess it'll be my turn soon then. i've had mine since may last year. was hoping the batch i got (25whatever) was safe but i guess not. a lot of the ones dying now are from the same batch.
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>>107869877
asus gets a free pass since its the republic of gamers
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>>107869745
>got a cardboard box full of RAM
Post pics or remain gay.
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>>107869877
7800x3d bros don't have this problem...
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>>107869889
asus sells the most motherboards to consumers, that is just an objective fact. asrock probably sells the least and has the most failures, the other vendors are somwhere inbetween. this is clearly an AMD problem though so i don't want to hear any brand warring retardisms
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>>107869876
>>107869698
All this shit, when you can just put 2 connectors
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>>107869892
weird how that works, its almost as if its to do with amd's newfangled under-ccx L3D...
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>>107869698
>needs a condom for his graphics card
mogged by my gigantic AMDick
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I haven't done this in a while. My budget is 1200-1400. I'm American. How can I bring this down? What good pre build pcs exists and what SHOULD be my standards?
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How do you cool this motherfucker?
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>>107869877
i've been telling you this for months now
it's AMD's fault
reddit will never admit AMD can do anything wrong but it's obviously a socket-level or processor-level issue
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>>107869913
Prayer
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amd has probably looked at the dead 9800x3ds with an xray or whatever they use to look at them and knows the answer but won't say anything because then they'd have to do a massive recall
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>>107869911
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4rkGJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($385.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($159.94 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory ($260.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($349.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($479.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 3500X ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI MAG 275QF 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2195.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2026-01-15 10:50 EST-0500

Forgot.
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>>107869904
Did Asus actually sell the most AM5 mobos?
Nova was an extremely popular board
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>>107869904
no that would be oems. all their rog shit goes to cucksoomers tho.
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how do I apply thermal paste to my CPU and GPU in a laptop when they are soldered to the motherboard?
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>>107869876
>really annoying
Ideally, it should never happen
And if it starts beeping, you'll get what, one beep every year? The failures aren't that common
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last thing - i hope panther lake comes out soon because i will be switching from amd the second i get the chance
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>>107869876
Would you rather be annoyed by a beeping noise or have $5000 worth of melted plastic
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>>107869447
Yes.
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are ultrawide curved monitors worth the extra GPU usage? I feel like I'd barely be able to get 120fps on 3440x1440p and ultrawide 1080p monitors probably look worse than regular 1440p monitors
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>>107869913
gigabyte's actually pretty based for putting 2 connector slots on all their 5090 boards as standard
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>>107869953
>are ultrawide curved monitors worth the extra GPU usage?
Y E S
E
S
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>>107869936
if it checks for 9.2A, you're probably gonna hear at least 1 beep every 2-3 days because of transient spikes
>>107869950
there are other better solutions to get the same result is all I'm saying
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>>107869930
asrock was certainly overrepresented this generation among tech savvy users who would go to reddit to tell everyone about how their CPU exploded
>>107869941
intel is probably safe for a while, they won't be pulling any more tricks to win benchmarks after raptor lake
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>>107869953
Nope, it's a meme. UW are bad as a daily driver. Feel free to get one if you have the space for another setup dedicated to UW games though.
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>>107869954
Normally I'd shit on gigabyte but this one is actually pretty based on their part
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>>107869877
What board?
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Hi, I'm pretty new here. Is there a general for talking about laptops?
No, I'm not THAT autistic so I don't care about chink ShitPads
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>>107869998
X870E-E
motherboard is irrelevant, it is the CPU that is dying because AMD QC is a joke
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does the sn matter when i put in the ram? does the lower number go into the "first" slot?
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>>107870004
there's /sqt/ for general tech questions
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surely somebody watching this already has most of the tools here and starts doing it outside china
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcRGBeOENLg
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>>107870036
Brother Zhang only exists in China gweilo.
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>>107869928
>because then they'd have to do a massive recall
I feel like AMD in general has defective silicon
It's why they cant get ahold of certain issues in their GPUs despite many driver updates while some are fine day one
The alternative of patching around the issue and hoping it's not a massive problem is much preferable to a recall
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>>107870036
can't nvidia just lock the vram ammount in a future firmware release/ driver?
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>>107870052
Agreed. My opinion was that the RDNA1 debacle wasn't just software
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>>107870052
RDNA1 and RDNA3 both had lots of cards that simply refused to work at stock clock speeds
(for example, AMD added a workaround in their driver to downclock the 7900 XTX if you played helldivers 2)
early ryzen 3000 was pretty bad as well, that was more down to the 7nm process not being mature than any silicon bugs, but some of them couldn't reach anything close to the advertised clock speeds
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>>107870073
my 5700xt always crashed in most games after like 30 to 60min of gaming. it was the steam overlay. it turned it off and it made it crash. it happened on windows and on linux. if i turned it on it ran just fine. hate software. hate everything about it.
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>>107870052
>I feel like AMD in general has defective silicon
stfu u cocksucking shills. nobody is buying nigvidia. sorry. every AMD ever has just works unless you're sabotaging it.
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>>107870052
>defective silicon
they have defective engineers
stop moving the blame around like a retard
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>>107870057
They share the memory controller driver with their workstation cards so technically you can solder in the ram modules used in a workstation card in your gayming card and get double ram size
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this whole debacle is reminding everyone why intel was the popular choice for over a decade and i suppose that's one good outcome
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Does FSR4 has a native/AA mode like FSR3?
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>>107870052
the navi21 die in particular has proven to have a fatal defect that kills 1% of cards every year and is unfixable because the core gets internally shorted
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>>107870116
Okay moishe
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>>107870116
too bad they sold only 4c8t i7s for a decade.
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>>107869877
If using an asus board, make sure you update to the beta bios 2001. Keep your bios up to date as much as possible. That's the only protection you have.
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>>107870116
Too bad their latest flagship is slower than their own previous flagship.
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>>107870092
don't forget the am4 usb bug which was largely caused by amd shipping out chips with marginal IO dies
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>>107869877
>asus board
My condolences
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>>107870146
>le brand warring retard
keep playing defense for a billion dollar company that is selling you garbage
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does this mean another fuckup?
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>>107870140
i never encountered that but sure, i don't know what caused it, other than that it sounds like regular old FCLK instability
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>>107870116
>has to beg TSMC to make the chips for them
OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>>107869877
Meh, I have had mine for a while now and it is still alive, the only "OC" I am running is the ram at 6000MHz, msi x870e tomahawk board.
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>>107870163
it doesn't mean anything and you can still roll back with bios flashback or by enabling the legacy bios update option

anyway, https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/amd-600-series/x670-x870-resource-thread/m-p/1133536/highlight/true#M11273
beta bios are posted on the 600 series forum for both 600 and 800 mobos for whatever reason and it's done as secretly as possible
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>>107870170
its a binning problem. people who have the issue, continue having it until they rma their chips and get a new one. a few are luckier and have the problem resolved through newer agesas but those are the exceptions and not the norm
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>>107870185
>Starting from AGESA version 1280, the refresh mode has been changed to mixed mode
Therefore, if you want to use the previous mode, need to set M_ORDERING to NORM
it would be soooooooooo funny if this is what has been killing cpus
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>>107870185
i am not a beta so i am not going to run a beta bios
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>>107870162
>playing defense for a billion dollar company
I did no such thing. It seems like you are the brand warring shill seething at my post
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>>107870137
And that's arguably better than a dead CPU

NOTHING is worth a generally unreliable system.
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>be on amd system
>randomly hear usb disconnect/reconnect
xD
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>>107870199
it means they've started to make use of DDR5 per-bank refresh
that's not gonna kill your CPU but it might make your memory unstable
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>>107870217
>better than a dead CPU
Like all those Intel 13 and 14th gen CPUs
:^)
Retard.
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they are up to agesa 1.3.0 now
there ahve been like 10 new agesa updates in the past year
they know something
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how do you actually optimize windows 11 to not be shit? Even on IOT LTSC, I have 200 processes open at any given moment
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>>107869929
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QCxLc
The monitor you want is the Evolution Select. Not the Evolution Premium. It wasn't listed but is visible on the amazon link.

Enjoy your Intel GPU
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>>107870231
Bruh what
You think I was going against AMD?
Core ultra being slower is arguably a good thing if Intel can't make raptors speed reliable
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>>107870231
kek yeah, IntelAvivs are trying so hard to memory hole that one
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>>107869806
It will be a solid upgrade and you'll be able to run the newer DLSS 4.5 models without killing your performance but you'll be bottleneck, CPU bottleneck varies depending on resolution so iff you are on 1440p it will not be as bad, you may just want to upgrade to a 5500, 5600x, 5700x and 1440p if your bios can support it later
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>>107870245
I remember when bios updates where a twice a year thing, assuming you even bothered as there was rarely a pressing issue.
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will a PCIE capture card heat up my GPU?
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>>107870285
back when everything was still made in china but they at least had some respectable qc

now they dont actually test anything
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prime bros stay winning. republic of gamers scum keep taking l's. tuf pilgrims praying. meanwhile prime gang sipping budget‑tier stability like fine wine. absolute domination. kek.
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>>107870271
Another retard who thought I was talking about AMD
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>>107870286
No.
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>>107870286
Nah, plenty of room to breathe
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>>107870292
salvation can only be found in the republic. prime boys and tuf gays are stranded in the bear woods with nothing but the shirt on their back
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/1qdjh10/dead_9800x3d_asus_x870ee/

>noo you retard is vsoc!
>nooo its sleep mode!
>no it's asus!!!
lol the amount of cope just so they dont have to blame amd is astounding
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>>107870320
nova lake with bllc cache cant come soon enough
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>>107870320
If your post is true, I'm surprised anyone would blame Asus
I guess AMD is the bigger darling here
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>>107869929
https://www.microcenter.com/product/704075/powerspec-g529-gaming-pc
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https://www.servethehome.com/sifive-to-adopt-nvlink-fusion-for-future-data-center-risc-v-cpu-designs/

NVIDIA WON
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>>107870307
salvation in the republic? bro your rog board needs salvation more than anyone. prime bros out here living off the land like woodland kings while rog faithful wander in circles waiting for a post screen that never comes. keep preaching, prophet of the melting x3d's.
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>>107870320
I would've switched to the 285k if I were him
Slow reliability > fast instability
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the indians think making fun of the "rog" name makes them cool. nobody calls anything rog, we just call everything they make asus
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>>107870339
honestly the networking department of nvidia is probably the one making the most progress right now, VeraRubin beating the mi instinct so easily is mostly down to them having so much better networking tech and internal bandiwtdh
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>>107870353
still won't bring back the x3d cpus. keep coping tranny. your cpu and motherboard are just as relible as your avarage tranny.
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>>107870363
To be far they bought mellanox which has always been at the forefront of system interconnects with infinaband
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>mfw nicotroon's 9800X3D blows up and he has to work extra shifts shoveling shit to afford a replacement
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asus prime 1
anus rog 0
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1qcfumu/asrock_b850m_steel_legend_9800x3d_dead_cpu/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1qcsbhj/dead_7800x3d_on_asrock_b850i_lightning/
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>>107870320
My speculation is it's the LLC mode, when left on auto it probably has transient spikes well above safe limits, and Asus probably assumed that since they're transients, they'd be fine, but it's causing degradation and hardware failures for some units.
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>>107870390
Snsv -1
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>>107870381
nicotoroon just bought my bags (r7 1700)
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>>107870415
AMD has a fixed ~0.3mOhm loadline for their boost algorithm
if all board manufacturers are violating that spec then obviously AMD needs to intervene
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How big should my PSU be for an RTX 5080? I bought a 750W one but now I'm having second thoughts
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>>107870415
Intel should try to rush nova lake with their 3d cache solution, imagine how many costumers will they be losing if the 9800x3d and 7800x3d are dragrading this fast
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i told everyone those fancy boards are trash. just buy the budget stuff that oems use and actually sell to the masses of retards out there. asus ships those boards on contract with zero funny business directly to the oems that sell those same system to companies.
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>>107870438
750w is enough even if you push the 5080 to 450w
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anyone here have an h7flow 2024? is it a good case?
I just want a case without a cucked psu shroud blocking the entire bottom
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>>107870438
Put your build into part picker and see how much it draws
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>>107870430
Anon, That 0.3mOhm figure is just the design target; in practice, every motherboard OEM sets their own defaults. Because every board has different physical resistance and VRM quality, your LLC (Load-Line Calibration) setting is ultimately what dictates the actual delivered loadline. On many ASUS and ASRock boards, the 'Auto' LLC is often tuned too aggressively, which can cause high-voltage transient spikes when the CPU suddenly drops from a heavy load to idle that's likely what's behind these recent 9800X3D failure reports.
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>>107870438
750W is plenty.
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>niggier itt cant handle green brand news
>(((suddenly))) news from redditniggers about amd cpus are being reposted here
hmm
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>>107870454
Either those mass produced boards or the special XOC ones that receive special attention from their engineers are fine. All other (highend) boards should be avoided for poor after sales support
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>>107870454
>thousands or even 10s of thousands of those higher end asus boards have been sold
>one or two public problems
>SEE I TOLD YOU I WAS RIGHT, I'M NOT A POOR JEW, I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
while you ignore the dozens of similar reports from budget boards from asrock and others.

Wewlad.
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>>107870474
llc is dogshit anways. got the best results on the lowest setting. what does it matter if the cpu is running a bit high at idle? it's not like does anything. no heat and amps no nothing. the voltage can stay high as long as it drops under load under high heat and amps. every board should have the option to just disable llc fully. it's dogshit anyways. no vrm can react that fast to a voltage change. it's just cope.
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>>107870474
>That 0.3mOhm figure is just the design target; in practice, every motherboard OEM sets their own defaults
i know
but why would they calibrate it to anything else? the boost algorithm has a fixed target
performance does not improve on AMD from adjusting LLC
set it too steep at the VRM and you get clock stretching, causing worse performance
set it too shallow at the VRM and you get overvoltage, causing worse temps and power draw
>'Auto' LLC is often tuned too aggressively
prove it
and i mean on a modern AM4 or AM5 board
AM3 and intel works differently
the wisdom from your old sandy bridge rig doesn't apply here
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>>107870496
stupid people only see what they want to see
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>>107870459
>>107870463
>>107870479
Thanks

I put it in part picker and it drew 600. Since then a friend's been saying I need 900 minimum which sounded retarded to me
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>>107870454
There is apparently a cafe owner who sees a dead cpu frequently from basic Asus boards.
The PSUs used are supposedly "suspect" but it's hard to tell of its actually a bad PSU as opposed to just not being AAA+++ teir

https://wccftech.com/cafe-owner-reports-one-dead-ryzen-9800x3d-cpu-every-week/
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>>107869913
Water block and a honda civic radiator.
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>>107870517
the reddit thread was actually hilarious. everyone posting in there immediately blamed the owner and said his psus killed his 9800x3ds and that it wasn't the cpu's fault
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>source:reddit
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>>107870497
I'm not talking about old-school manual OC; I'm talking about the specific interaction between the Precision Boost algorithm and AM5 VRM transient response.

The issue isn't high voltage at idle—it’s Vmax overshoot during load release. On the Strix X870E-E specifically, 'Auto' LLC has been observed in oscilloscope testing (and logged in HWiNFO) to allow transients exceeding 1.45V when high-current loads stop. For the 3D V-Cache, which acts as a thermal blanket over the cores, these micro-spikes are cumulative.

>>107870502
>prove it
The proof is in the Power Reporting Deviation and VCore overshoot logs that have been flooding the ROG forums this month.
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>>107870496
>>107870505
never seen an assrock or msi board in an oem system. only anus and gigashit. anus also makes oem only boards that are basically just prime variants.
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With both the 9070XT and 7900XTX at the same price on second hand market, which one would be best to replace a 5700XT?
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>>107869954
Damn I want to void my warranty on my 5090.
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>>107870545
shut up kermit nobody cares
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>>107870545
>The proof is in the Power Reporting Deviation and VCore overshoot logs that have been flooding the ROG forums this month
post some
why are you using chatgpt to write your posts for you
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>>107870545
even with pbo i had the best results at low llc. i want an option to turn llc off. it cope. it doesn't help. it just makes the system run hot and more unstable.
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>>107870548
9070XT offers more bang per buck
7900XTX is the only further option to increase your workload ceiling at less bang per buck, if you are doing very serious blender or something else that is what you would want, or maybe you have a lot of 4k monitors, etc.
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>set vsoc to 1.2
>on bios 2001
>pbo off by default
>expo tweaked
what else? do I just play the waiting game now?
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>>107870574
it's fine because you have a good soul. nicotroon's chip will blow up, but yours will survive. don't worry about it.
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Wait, if AMD's current silicon is defective wouldn't that also mean that the hypothetical re-released Zen 3 CPUs will also have that issue?
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>>107869158
My 2600k + ddr3 PC is fine so something other than your CPU is causing the issue.
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>>107870512
I'd feel comfortable with an 850w, but if you buy go big. Nothing from here out is going to be light on power.
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>>107870612
It has nothing to do with the silicon, all the real testing being done shows it's either user error with mounting, or motherboard OEMs running retarded voltages at stock.
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>Nvidia “reportedly” ends 5070 ti production
>5060 tinwill soon follow suit
If true, what’s would be the logic behind this?
And why would ASUS share this with
>AMDunboxed
Idk I feel like that weasel is lying desu, I’ll wait for confirmation from Linus or Gaymer’s Nexus before I believe this
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>lin*s
so it was a ai bot all along, for a moment i thought the nigger existed on planet earth
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>>107870628
5060Ti 16GB, not the 8GB 5060Ti.
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>>107870649
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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I'm pleased to report the surgery was a success.
The fan rattle has been removed, the build looks slightly better and the thermals are about 10C cooler.
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>>107870645
>tinwill
spelling error dummy
>>107870649
meant to write out ti, but what would be the logic behind this move, and why would ASUS leak this out to an objectively biased channel?
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>>107870253
Thank you so much!
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>>107870679
How are thermals so improved?
The contact plate makes almost no thermal difference for AMD.
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>>107870628
i think is true, but if its made up it'll be so funny, specially because their AIBS sources are just australlian retards so it could only be for their region like the time they claimed RDNA4 sold more gpus in a week than the total sales from blackwell across 2 months
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>>107870547
Some boards are made by MSI, Asus, etc but are branded by the system manufacturer.
If you really pay attention you can pick them out as every OEM leaves there mark.
Pegatron/Asus loves leaving the model name in a certain font on the center of the board.
MSI has a certain font and codes their model names with MS-xxxx
Gigabyte depending on generation uses certain components you can spot.
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>>107869087
>are black smearing and ghosting really that dramatically noticeable in any use case
depends if you know how better things can look, or your tolerance to get used to shit
pretty much any backstep when you are used to better will be dramatic
lower ppi? holy shit this looks like shit
smear? holy shit its smear
no contrast? holy shit looks like shit
no color? holy shit no color

>>107869096
just buy a 14900k and sit out until ddr6
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>>107870628
>Linus
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>>107870628
It's the perfect opportunity for amd to announce 9080xt in order to push Nvidia to re-release 5070ti or introducing supers.
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Intel shills or nicotroon returned to cause drama, totally organic posts here
I saw that faggot on /v/ posting the same fucking images

ALSO
>13th and 14th gen Intel
Yeah like I want to trust them after this
>Intel LGA1700 processors are slightly convex factory new but become highly concave once the socket’s ILM (internal loading mechanism) is closed to press the CPU into the socket. This deformation can be reduced by putting 1mm washers underneath the ILM to reduce ILM pressure (the so called “washer mod”) or by using custom ILM replacements that apply less pressure (“contact frames” or “bending reduction frames”). However, when CPUs have been used with full ILM pressure for longer periods of time, the deformation can become partly plastic (i.e. the CPUs are permanently deformed and don’t go back to their original shape when removed from the socket).

Nice deformed CPUs... Honk honk

This is why I switched to AMD CPU this last gen
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>>107870723
New cooler, not just the contract plate.
The plate I just got because Amazon gave me like 75% off on it if I bought it and some MX-7. So I figured why not.

Previously I had the ID-Cooling A620.
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can someone explain why TVs look like this? (55" S95B QDOLED pictured)

why is diagonal lines showing? low ppi? source material? I noticed this on VA TV viewing very close too, it's like the entire picture had diagonal lines, in windows and so on
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>>107870758
No CPU has been reported dead from the ILM tho
Red herring as far as the other issues of the CPUs
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>>107870679
How easy was the contact frame? Any tips for a noob?
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>>107870767
or simply just a photo artifact? doubt it
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>>107870767
Your shit is fucked. Should have bought a G5.
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>>107870789
the thing is QDOLED does not have diagonal dithering like the LG oleds after C2 series
G5 is the one known for real bad dithering causing diagonal lines, look at the table and tiles here for example

haven't boughted anything yet
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I'm going to keep using my 1080 Ti until the next decade and I will be happy
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>>107870783
Surprisingly easy.
It came with the Allen key you need. Just turn those four screws out and it comes right off, new one goes right on. Don't unsocket your CPU or anything.

It connects to the back plate behind the board. However, if you unscrew the mounting bracket before you unscrew the frame, nothing will be left holding the back plate on, and it will fall off. And then you have to awkwardly lift your case up whist being terrified everything is going to fall off and break.

So, basically.
Remove CPU Cooler from bracket > Remove stock frame > fit new frame > remove bracket
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>5070 ti out of stock everywhere
>mine's been in transit for 12 days
It got stolen didn't it?
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>>107870843
Dequan thanks you for your donation white boi
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>>107869313
>>107869476

Asmongold was reacting to a channel that was explaining some of this stuff using video games as an example

Graphics on certain video games from 2013 were using roughly half the data that a current high level game would
But you need 4x the computer power to run 2x the program
So hardware is way better now, but bloat is also really bad
The problem is at the level of the game engines themselves which construct games poorly and with tons of bugs

I imagine this goes for many other things in the world of software
I saw some huge deep dive article from a guy who used to work at Microsoft and he said the situation was driving him insane
Windows is some bizarre MC Escher painting that no one in the company fully understands and the incompetence and stagnation at Microsoft is out of control. Everything is just a huge waste of time and money that reinvents the wheel
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can someone confirm if this monitor is glossy or not? Also is it good for the price? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-mo27q28g-sa1-27-oled-280-hz-qhd/p/N82E16824012111
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>>107870891
just use linux
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>>107870906
I messed around with Linux on a Rasberry Pi for a week or so
It seems fine

How is it for using on a main desktop big boy PC?
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>the 3090 Strix I was going to buy has a crack repair around the 12v area near the PCIe slot on the left
It's over then, isn't it? I will have to hope they restock the 5070 at the same 600 EUR price and cope with the lack of VRAM or take the risk on the fact I didn't buy that intact Gainward 3090 in early December and hope like hell the 3090 doesn't break if I do pull the trigger on it at 690 EUR.

Perhaps I may have to accept that it is too late and live with a 3060 Ti for another year. There are no better options left for a 3090 that aren't an impossibly far distance away.
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>>107870891
>Asmongold was reacting to-
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>>107870934
Same. Fuck that kitten murderer.
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>>107870893
>can someone confirm if this monitor is glossy or not?
uh https://youtu.be/NSOe3DrTEwg?t=581
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>>107870843
weather is shit in a lot of places might just be that
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> upgraded 6 months ago
> 7800x3d
> 4080 super
> 32gb CL30 RAM
> £1900

Tick tock waitfags.
Time is running out.
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>>107870740
>>Linus
He’s literally the most trustworthy out of all techtubers
AMDunboxed are just too biased, and Steve looks Jewish so yeah, I’m trusting anything they put out when it comes to nvidia
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should I go win10 or 11 with a 4th gen intel cpu?
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>>107870917
i like it, but i wouldn't use it with an nvidia gpu (had too many bugs with my 4070). i also still dual‑boot ltsc for assetto corsa and vr. with nvidia and their hardware, it works just fine on day one and slowly gets better over time, while with amd it takes a bit when they release new stuff, but it is great and really fast. 'external' vs the driver being part of the kernel. vrr also just works now on both kde and gnome, which is great, but not on smth like ubuntu 24.04 lts because it uses an old gnome version. same with kde on kubuntu. anything newer like cachyos, bazzite, and fedora just works. you also have to learn a few new things, but i don't mind.
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>>107870995
Right. How many of his dumb ass screw drivers did you buy? I'd rather take advice from Jay. And that's not a compliment to either
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>>107869313
>>107869476
It used to be that PCs were getting much more powerful rapidly but also cheaper. That has slowed down hugely now, and we've seen examples of things getting more expensive.

I had a PC for 10 years with basic graphics built into the CPU, it cost £300. When I went to replace it 10 years later, it seemed that I would just be buying the exact same PC for the same price.
But the hardware would all be better and faster still. A 4 core CPU at 3ghz from 10 years prior would have a different architecture. I compared the specs and the newer one would have been substantially more powerful.
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Dumbass here. Do I need bias lighting if I only use my OLED monitor in the dark?
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gamers nexus is like the only channel that tests stuff properly. everything included. don't care about anyone else really.
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>>107871019
Why are you getting offended on Steve’s behalf? All I said was that I wouldn’t trust anything coming from him, and that I’m more likely to trust the source if it came from Linus or GN
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>>107870989
>Tick tock waitfags.
My last upgrade was in 2017 and I've had no reason to get another upgrade yet
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>>107871035
No. If anything, any ambient lighting other than what the display is emitting hurts the contrast level of the picture for critical viewing. This goes for all display types too, not just OLED.
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>>107870934
Didn't remember the guys name or channel
The association with Asmongold makes it much easier to find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4
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>>107871050
how is that four core cpu doing?
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>>107870758
least obvious nicotroon falseflag post
are you still banned? i hope you're permad
better watch those voltages really carefully
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>>107870989
14900k 5080 and 96gb cl32 here
Buygods won
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>>107871063
this guy is great. he makes df niggers, unreal faggots and aaa sloppers seethe. i learned a few things about graphics from him.
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Would you guys get a 32 or a 27 inch monitor (oled) for a 4k setup?
I was thinking about getting a 32 one for some time now, but some sites (like r*ddit) are shilling 27 really hard saying how it's so much better because of the ppi.
Currently rocking a 1440p monitor at 27 inch, so I'm sure 32 inch 2160p will be much sharper, however I'm not sure if a 27 inch 2160p would be worth it just because it looks even sharper than that.
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>>107870834
Would you say it's worth it for a new build?
I literally am building this weekend and I also bought (assuming you bought same) that Thermalright contact frame
Now that I look at it, I got a v1 but apparently theres a v2?

I'm also going to use a heavy D15 Noctua so I'm curious if a contact frame will prevent potential warping over time

Should I buy the v2?
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what's the point of not buying the cheapest motherboard that supports your CPU? do you even need a premium motherboard to undervolt?
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>>107869067
Should I? Redpill me on the 5080 FE, I'm sick of putting up with AMDs crashtastic drivers, I currently have a 9070XT and I'm using drivers from September(?).
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>>107871128
It used to matter a lot. Circa 2020 when cpus first started going retard mode on power between intel late stage 14nm housefires amd ayyymd making 16 core chips for the first time. You could not afford to cheap out if you had a beast cpu. Nowadays? Power delivery is way more robust. I don't think any motherboard will be too anemic to run any cpu.
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>>107871150
Is that the cheapest 5080?
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>>107871128
You don't want to put a 16-core CPU on a bare 4 phase VRM with no cooling, and 2 ram slots.
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I'm debating whether I should upgrade from a 3080 Ti to a 9070 XT or even a 5070 Ti. When I use it the 3080 Ti sometimes feels a bit slow, but at the same time those cards don't seem like a major leap. I'm not willing to spend more on something even more expensive.

Has anyone gone from a 3080 Ti to a 5070 Ti? Is it a significant boost in practice? I've got a 4k monitor.

>>107871098
It is much better due to PPI, yes, but in reality what actually matters is PPD so you need to take your viewing distance into account. If you have your monitor at about 65cm (arm's length) or even closer then 27" but if it's significantly farther than that like closer to 1m then you should probably get a 32" screen.

>>107871128
Good quality VRM with proper cooling and all the features & connectivity you need.
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>>107871098
32" is way bigger than 27"
if you actually wanna use 100% scaling 32" easily
if for some reason you want 4k 27" only current alternative is qdoled which might be an upgrade if you picked 32"+qdoled AND it's causing eyestrain due to subpixels
current 4k 27" qdoled panels are also better than the 32" counterparts due to 5 layer qdoled better colors
I haven't compared 27" 4k qdoleds irl so can't say for sure how much better it is, 32" fringing is easily visible

my unscientific eyesafety ranking list XG32UCWMG > PG/XG27UCDM > PG32UCDMR
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What is a PC build that would be needed for running AI video generation?
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Fuck my FOMO ass, am I really going to be forced to upgrade to a 5060ti 16gb from an almost 5 year old 3060 due to this EoL bullshit shortage and AI winter coming up? I have a 9600x I got on a bundle with Wilds and a 500gb SSD like half a year ago that breathed new life into my rig so I didn't feel any need to upgrade anymore but this horrible fate that awaits us has me thinking if I should just pull the trigger now and sell the 3060 down the line when the prices blow up. I still play at 1080p for that matter and have no plans of getting a new monitor since I'm kind of a compfag.
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>>107871128
They are less prone to make any hardware component degrade
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>be nvidia 5090 owner
>want to try new dlss 4.5
>try to update shit nvidiot app
>tells me there's a problem and i need to reinstall everytime i boot my pc
>mfw
>have to go into /programdata and delete the drs files to get it to work properly
life of a nvidia customer right here
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Against the power of silicon valley, there can be no victory.
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>>107871128
Bougier motherboards generally have nicer tools for debugging and troubleshooting.
Power delivery matters for overclock, but not really for real people.
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>>107871150
the amount of retards that bought an amd card only to buy an nvidia card a month or 2 later is astounding. you retards claim you're better with your money and then you buy TWO video cards lmfao wtf
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>>107871071
Retard schizo newfag, try again. Also wouldn't be surprised if you're the Nico xemselves. I called you out on the /v/ thread. Again, isolated incidents unlike Intels . Notice how my image has never been used before? Learn2archive.
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>>107871199
Well both cards will need to use upscaling if you watn to play recent slop at a high refresh rate on 4k, check this video and see if you think you could live with FSR 4 performance at 4k, both cards have similar performance but the trade-off comes in image quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXAYR-ZtbH4
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>5070ti end of life already
grim
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>>107871253
Yes we know newfag, thanks for the third repost
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>>107871259
Sorry I'm not glued to my PC touchless virgin
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>>107871253
you can still buy the 5080 what do you mean?
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>>107871265
Fuck off normalfag.
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>>107871277
>reddit image
>correct nomenclature in text
hm
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>>107871266
>most sensible cards like 5060ti 16gb 5070ti 16gb retired
>keeping the cucked 5060ti 8gb, 5070 12gb and overpriced 5080 (not 24gb like it's supposed to be) in production
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>>107871266
Watercooled models only unless you get lucky with FE gacha from Nvidia>>107871266
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>>107871211
If you have the nvidia app go to global settings, DSR factor and enable super resolution ( DL scaling 2560x1440) you'll get your monitor to render 1440p, which may make things like performance using preset M less expensive on some AAA slop games it could help your 3060 to run or benefit a little bit from DLSS 4.5 ( is way less taxing at performance and should look better than DLSS qualitry at 1080p) or at least make you feel less retarded about your fomo purchase as you would at least be able to use the extra vram without buying a new monitor
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>>107871303
games are virtual toys
the better memory is being used on important life changing things instead
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>>107871265
You can't scan a single thread? Go away attention whore/shitposter. You're doing no one favors if you think posting a screenshot of a YouTube video 12 hours later is some sort of way of "news".
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>>107871303
>>107871307
You will never be a real 80-class GPU. You have no GB202 silicon, you have no 320-bit/ 384-bit bus, you have no 20GB/ 24GB of VRAM. You are a mid-range GB203 chip twisted by Jensen’s greed and a $1,000 MSRP into a crude mockery of a flagship’s perfection. All the "validation" you get from benchmarks is two-faced and half-hearted; behind your back, the entire enthusiast community mocks you for having only 49% of the 5090's CUDA cores. Your specs are a dead giveaway - 16GB of VRAM and a 256-bit bus is the "mid-range bone structure" that proves you are just a 70-series card in a suit. Even if a drunk gamer brings you home, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they see you choking on 4K textures because you lack the bandwidth and "breathing room" of a real enthusiast card. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake DLSS frame every morning and tell yourself it’s 4K gaming, but deep inside you feel the VRAM limitations creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your framerates under the unbearable weight of Ray Reconstruction. Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll be listed on eBay for $400, and every buyer for the rest of eternity will know a mid-range 70-class chip is buried under that shroud. This is your fate. This is what Jensen chose for you. There is no turning back.
>>107871315
like ai porn?
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>>107871246
>Also wouldn't be surprised if you're the Nico xemselves
see this is how i know it's you
why the fuck would you be calling out "nicotroon" for posting about exploding AMD CPUs when he's still pretending the problem doesn't exist
you're too stupid to shitpost correctly
>I called you out on the /v/ thread
what thread? there are a lot of threads on /v/
you can go spread some curry diarrhea in those because you get banned on sight if you're too obvious here
>Notice how my image has never been used before? Learn2archive
i know, you did that on purpose because it's too obvious when you post "nvidia stutter.webm" for the 50th time this week

lay low for a month or two, then you can take back the OP, it will be a fantastic spectacle for all to see
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>>107871321
no, ai data collection
ai drones to kill people in foreign countries
ai facial recognition so the government has a digital footprint of your every move
etc
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>>107871066
Just fine, thank you for asking
I have 0 workloads that push my CPU to its limits
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>>107871336
what happened to "china bad". why everyone tryna be like them now?
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How do I profit off the memory shortage chaos? what do I invest in?
I'm dropping everything I own into stonks instead of buying hardware
I am too poor
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>>107871336
the last one is especially true btw. they have been silently putting up facial recognition cameras all across new york state for example. they do a lot more than just track your face too. everything about your life is in some government database
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>>107871320
why would i waste my time reading your bullshit threads where u argue about ur favorite brand
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>>107871362
burn
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>>107871351
china is bad and the united states being bad too doesn't negate china still being bad. that being said, the us is the lesser of two evils
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>>107871351
>what happened to "china bad"
It was always only ever bad because we weren't the ones doing it
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>>107871372
now watch them race to the buttom lel
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>>107871359
I like being in a cyberpunk dystopia without the cool cybernetics shit.
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>>107871384
the us is in a race to become the next ww2 era germany and it's because dumb zoomers were easily indoctrinated by youtubers and tiktokers
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>>107871326
Because he is an agitator. I've seen that troon recycle so much to cause drama and false flag. Go away imbecile, your isolated incidents are funny to blow out of proportion comparing to the scare I saw with oxidation/microcode. Whatever, last (you). I don't care but it's funny to see very "organic" posts about a fucking net cafe in a third world shit hole.
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>>107871399
that's just a failure of the previous generation but go ahead and shift the blame.
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>>107871313
I'll try that out, thanks. I'll assume you believe buying the card IS retarded, is it because I'm still playing on 1080p or the FOMO?
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>>107870011
read the motherboard's manual recommendation, usually the sticks go in slot 2 and 4 as they are dual channel
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>>107871179
>with no cooling
all you need is a fan blowing at the pcb
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>>107871041
Steve doesn't even review shit to compare. He basically runs a pc news site and tries to be Colombo.
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linus is cool but he has a massive ego
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lol come to think of it that guy earlier who was trying to convince us AMD is innocent with AI generated slop was probably nicotroon as well
i thought it was a shill logging in with his VPN from mumbai but no it's just our favorite tranny doing it for free
again
(i understand the need for anonymity in your situation but you should at least change chatgpt's conversational style to make it look more human)
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>>107871150
That price sucks.
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FUCK IT

NEW NEW NEW
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>>107871569
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>>107871574
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>>107871127
I'd say it's more cosmetic than anything.
It's neat and makes everything cleaner and easier to work with, but it's largely superfluous to actual performance.

It's cheap though.
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>>107871606
I bought the contact frame just in case but apparently Noctua says to not really bother as it may cause problems

I'm moreso worried about board warping due to the D15 G2 I bought
But apparently AI says that it's not really needed and may even void my mobo warranty.
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>>107871421
Honestly at this point i dont know it depends on if you'll be able to do somethign with those 16gb, if it just for 1080p e-sport something like a 5070 will be better but if the rumours are true then a 5060 ti 16gb assuming its not signfiicantly expensive than a 5070 and closer to msrp may be something that you may even be able to resell if the rumours of EoL are true, so yeah if you want to do AI slop or resell the card get the 5060 ti 16gb if you want to just game and feel less fomo get the cheapest 5070
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Thoughts on this build? From UK trying to keep the price as close to £1000 as possible.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjTkGJ

also was thinking about just buying 16gb of ram for now because a friend might be able to get me cheap 32gb in like 6 months time



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