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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia to stop production of some Ti variants due to the RAMpocalypse


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
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>>107874663
Specifically how do graphene pads perform for 9800X3D? Some sources say they can match or even perform better than paste
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I LOVE nvidia
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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be tring a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems"

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
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Should bake faster before the nicotroon could
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>>107874703
it claim jumps by starting the threads early.
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>>107874696
pads is better than paste yes
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>>107874696
Honestly from best to worse is less than 5 degrees. Who cares. It doesn't matter. Reliability is more important to many.
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>>107874756
Go get a fucking job loser.
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>>107874756
thanks, but im staying
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>>107874756
Why are you so mad?
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>>107874696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niAQs8dZohE
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>>107874696
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>>107874802
>5 years old
surely the technology has gotten better since?
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>>107874756
fuck off faggot stay in your AMD thread
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>>107874696
I tried Kryosheet for my latest build, was easy to use, works as well as or better than paste. Supposedly it's also re-usable but I'm not going to bank on that years down the line.

It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over time, so you should be good with anything you pick as your thermal interface.
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>>107874756
No, thank you, saar
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5070 ti EOL, 5060 ti about to EOL. Radeon card prices spiking again.
Dark times getting darker.
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>>107874838
>Dark times getting darker
If you snooze you lose
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>>107874827
>It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over time
It does but it varies by paste and it might not matter to you if you'll replace it anyway. There's also the pump out effect but again that might not matter to you.
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>>107874838
ti's are the vitims of the RAMpocalypse, and Radeon prices are up for the same reason. Dark times indeed.
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i knew nicotrroon was the retard spamming amd gpus on /v/ now he is back
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>>107874851
>>It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over time
>It does but it varies by paste
>also the pump out effect
any links that review this things? anons would like to know.
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>procrastinated on buying this and it only keeps getting hiked higher and higher
I'm doomed ain't I?
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>>107874808
For me it's Halnziye HY810.
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>>107874861
I saw the same earlier today as well on /v/. All the same shill and cherry picked 6+ month old images.
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Do i need more than a 850w psu for a 9070xt+7800x3d? Thinking about getting an rm850x.
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>>107874912
You don't need more than 850 for anything
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>>107874888
whateva. it's just 4chan after all. only a fool would trust /pcbg/ for advice.
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>>107874912
>Do i need more than a 850w psu for a 9070xt+7800x3d
No

>>107874939
This anon doesn't own a 5090
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>>107874861
Was going to get an amjeet cpu for productivity but ended up getting a core ultra 9 just to spite that faggot
fuck him and fuck all AMDrones
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>>107874939
>You don't need more than 850
Use case? What-if some weirdo wants to have a dozen NAS drives for >>>/g/hsg stuff?
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>>107875002
AMD is for gaming anyways.
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i sure hope this vendor i bought a wd green from still has stock cuz the other ssd i was looking at just went tits up to $160 wtf man.
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>>107874881
Probably. The Samsung 990 Pro 4tb is now $550.
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Where did the other thread go?
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>>107875052
Pruned for OP violations, I would presume
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>>107874700
I've been shitting on them too much due to AI faggotry but at least their drivers work unlike AMDs.
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kek i cannot for the life of me how anyone could /mod/ here and remain sane

>the shill thread got pruned
>i've been a naughty boy

fact is often stranger than fiction
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Which handhelds do you recommend?

I wanted to get a Deck 2 when it came out but seeing as they aren't coming out until at least 2028 and RAM/Storage prices are getting out of hand should I just get a Deck OLED now?

Are the other handhelds worth considering? I assume the Windows ones are shit and I should get a SteamOS one? How's the Legion Go S for example?
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>>107875062
><generic brand faggotry>
no one cares.
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>>107875081
you cared enough to reply
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>>107875077
Lenovo Legion S with SteamOS and 32gb of RAM, it also has hall effect sticks and triggers.
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>>107875052
what other thread? this is the true /pcbg/, the only /pcbg/
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Now can we talk about cool things like monitors
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> tried registering my GPU
> get this message
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>>107875077
They're all kind of shit rn tbqh
The deck 2 is severely underpowered and has less than 100% compatibility because of loonix and the only other oled model is too bulky/overpriced
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>>107875113
Certainly. Allow me to plug this monitor. I love it.
Dell UltraSharp U4025QW
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>>107875113
oled still too expensive
Anything else has been in standstill for a decade
My IPS is 6 years old and still better than 99% of chinkshit of same price on amazon
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>>107875098
I’m just surprised that they even deleted it
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Is there an actual science behind capping 3fps below the refresh rate for gsync to work well or is it just a random number thrown there? Or is it dependent on the monitor itself being able to handle it?
I have a 360hz monitor and I'll be honest, I don't think I ever play anything that reaches those FPS except old games. I have a 4070 super and except for multiplayer games I don't play such as marvel rivals I don't think I get 200fps on almost anything (well, maybe I can get games like Falcom garbage to play at higher framerates but that's about it). If something, I'll be using 360hz sometimes with RetroArch and that CRT simulation bullshit, which doesn't work well with FPS caps.
However I'm checking that people are just throwing out sometimes -3fps, sometimes -24fps, I don't fucking know what the cap is supposed to be or if it's some placebo bullshit that is already handled automagically but some people are stuck in the past, like hundreds of other tweaks out there. What is optimal and not bullshit here?
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>>107875151
logic behind it from what i’ve read is it ought to draw less power while still performing better since it doesn’t render frames you’re not seeing. it’d be wasted on you if you can’t hit your monitor’s refresh rate, though
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>>107875151
Uh oh nicotroon melty
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>>107875151
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>>107874881
Every major retailer jacked up their prices on Monday. Even entry level SSDs have breached $100/TB.
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anons, OP here, good luck with all this noise. i had to add a badge to my smite counter. you idiots >>107874703 are on your own.

>i swear it's a thing between us, anon just won't admit it.
>shillanon, don't worry, i'll be back some other time.
>i know you miss me when i'm gone.

just remember to know what you're doing before you spend your shekels, all you larping /pcbg/ /faggot/ anons
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>>107874808
>>107874827
Just bought Kryosheet 33x33
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>>107875128
Neat
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eh just wait for 6070Ti, 2 node shrinks at once means it'll perform like a 5090 at 200-250w
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>>107875351
No a 6070ti will perform like a 5070ti plus 10 percent, but for an extra $300.
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>>107875351
i will 6090 for $10000
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>>107875262
is that pic insinuating that nicotroon sages his own threads? idgi
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Should I buy a new paste tube or re-use my 8 years old Manhattan thermal paste?
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>>107875391
6090 will be a GeForce Now exclusive. $10000 sounds about right.
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>>107875409
if it ain’t solid just use it
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>>107875351
and it will have a 192bit bus and have 18gb of vram for $1200
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Lol and Lmao @ anyone actually building a PC now
it's OVER
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>>107875416
Just tested it. It still spreads so I guess it will do for now.
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>>107875427
I got a GPU, ram, and storage last October. I can build another PC any time I want.
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>>107875427
I already own 3 PCs I can build a PC any time I want
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>>107875427
I have a PC, I can take it apart and build a PC any time I want
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>>107875427
I have a 9070XT 32GB ddr5 in and a backuo spare 32GB ddr5
I need to upgrade CPU though
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>>107875242
I can't.
What 1TB models can you recommend?
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welp my local microcenter ran out of 5070tis KEK
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>>107875517
Mine still has them, but not a ton.
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>>107875427
I have some sand in my pocket right now that's at least 2 CPUs and 1 GPU die any time I want
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so it was fud
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>>107875536
>PR corp speak that means nothing
Sure deboonked 'em.
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>>107875536
>asus
>on the ground actually supplying 5070ti boards to global markets
>nvidia
>high on AI fumes and doing damage control to maintain their 90% monopoly on the gaymen market
gee, I wonder whose word I should take more seriously
j2c proves to be a mega tard once again
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>>107875548
>very clearly says they are not ending the sale of any gpus
>le corp speak
no it's just proper english and a very clear answer
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>>107875536
Nvidia says they are shipping all SKUs
and yet board channels say different
and AIB reps say different
and several stores say they cannot restock especially high end GPUs
I even saw one store saying they'll buy old gaming rights off you
and stores with stock have raised the prices on them

but i'm sure nvidia is deffo shipping all these GPUs out, and still gifting the AIBs the VRAM for them too

yep they sure are still shipping off 16GB VRAM to stick on 5070TI and 5060TIs
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>AOC 24G4/P 24” 180Hz 0.5ms IPS
>$128
>AOC AGON QUAD Q27G4F 27" QHD 180Hz 0.5ms IPS HDR10
>$280
is 1440p worth the price difference
if these seem overpriced to you it's because they are, tech market is terrible in my third world and this is what they cost after converting to usd for reference
and these are basically the cheapest ones as far as reputable brands goes
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>>107875536
Jay is always wrong. So that means it really is over for the 5070ti.



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