>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>107871569
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soonNvidia to stop production of some Ti variants due to the RAMpocalypse>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
>>107874663Specifically how do graphene pads perform for 9800X3D? Some sources say they can match or even perform better than paste
I LOVE nvidia
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be tring a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems"remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
Should bake faster before the nicotroon could
>>107874703it claim jumps by starting the threads early.
>>107874696pads is better than paste yes
>>107874696Honestly from best to worse is less than 5 degrees. Who cares. It doesn't matter. Reliability is more important to many.
>>107874756Go get a fucking job loser.
>>107874756thanks, but im staying
>>107874756Why are you so mad?
>>107874696https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niAQs8dZohE
>>107874696
>>107874802>5 years oldsurely the technology has gotten better since?
>>107874756fuck off faggot stay in your AMD thread
>>107874696I tried Kryosheet for my latest build, was easy to use, works as well as or better than paste. Supposedly it's also re-usable but I'm not going to bank on that years down the line.It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over time, so you should be good with anything you pick as your thermal interface.
>>107874756No, thank you, saar
5070 ti EOL, 5060 ti about to EOL. Radeon card prices spiking again.Dark times getting darker.
>>107874838>Dark times getting darkerIf you snooze you lose
>>107874827>It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over timeIt does but it varies by paste and it might not matter to you if you'll replace it anyway. There's also the pump out effect but again that might not matter to you.
>>107874838ti's are the vitims of the RAMpocalypse, and Radeon prices are up for the same reason. Dark times indeed.
i knew nicotrroon was the retard spamming amd gpus on /v/ now he is back
>>107874851>>It is apparently BS that pastes degrade over time>It does but it varies by paste>also the pump out effectany links that review this things? anons would like to know.
>procrastinated on buying this and it only keeps getting hiked higher and higherI'm doomed ain't I?
>>107874808For me it's Halnziye HY810.
>>107874861I saw the same earlier today as well on /v/. All the same shill and cherry picked 6+ month old images.
Do i need more than a 850w psu for a 9070xt+7800x3d? Thinking about getting an rm850x.
>>107874912You don't need more than 850 for anything
>>107874888whateva. it's just 4chan after all. only a fool would trust /pcbg/ for advice.
>>107874912>Do i need more than a 850w psu for a 9070xt+7800x3dNo>>107874939This anon doesn't own a 5090
>>107874861Was going to get an amjeet cpu for productivity but ended up getting a core ultra 9 just to spite that faggotfuck him and fuck all AMDrones
>>107874939>You don't need more than 850Use case? What-if some weirdo wants to have a dozen NAS drives for >>>/g/hsg stuff?
>>107875002AMD is for gaming anyways.
i sure hope this vendor i bought a wd green from still has stock cuz the other ssd i was looking at just went tits up to $160 wtf man.
>>107874881Probably. The Samsung 990 Pro 4tb is now $550.
Where did the other thread go?
>>107875052Pruned for OP violations, I would presume
>>107874700I've been shitting on them too much due to AI faggotry but at least their drivers work unlike AMDs.
kek i cannot for the life of me how anyone could /mod/ here and remain sane>the shill thread got pruned>i've been a naughty boyfact is often stranger than fiction
Which handhelds do you recommend?I wanted to get a Deck 2 when it came out but seeing as they aren't coming out until at least 2028 and RAM/Storage prices are getting out of hand should I just get a Deck OLED now?Are the other handhelds worth considering? I assume the Windows ones are shit and I should get a SteamOS one? How's the Legion Go S for example?
>>107875062><generic brand faggotry>no one cares.
>>107875081you cared enough to reply
>>107875077Lenovo Legion S with SteamOS and 32gb of RAM, it also has hall effect sticks and triggers.
>>107875052what other thread? this is the true /pcbg/, the only /pcbg/
Now can we talk about cool things like monitors
> tried registering my GPU> get this message
>>107875077They're all kind of shit rn tbqhThe deck 2 is severely underpowered and has less than 100% compatibility because of loonix and the only other oled model is too bulky/overpriced
>>107875113Certainly. Allow me to plug this monitor. I love it. Dell UltraSharp U4025QW
>>107875113oled still too expensiveAnything else has been in standstill for a decadeMy IPS is 6 years old and still better than 99% of chinkshit of same price on amazon
>>107875098I’m just surprised that they even deleted it
Is there an actual science behind capping 3fps below the refresh rate for gsync to work well or is it just a random number thrown there? Or is it dependent on the monitor itself being able to handle it?I have a 360hz monitor and I'll be honest, I don't think I ever play anything that reaches those FPS except old games. I have a 4070 super and except for multiplayer games I don't play such as marvel rivals I don't think I get 200fps on almost anything (well, maybe I can get games like Falcom garbage to play at higher framerates but that's about it). If something, I'll be using 360hz sometimes with RetroArch and that CRT simulation bullshit, which doesn't work well with FPS caps.However I'm checking that people are just throwing out sometimes -3fps, sometimes -24fps, I don't fucking know what the cap is supposed to be or if it's some placebo bullshit that is already handled automagically but some people are stuck in the past, like hundreds of other tweaks out there. What is optimal and not bullshit here?
>>107875151logic behind it from what i’ve read is it ought to draw less power while still performing better since it doesn’t render frames you’re not seeing. it’d be wasted on you if you can’t hit your monitor’s refresh rate, though
>>107875151Uh oh nicotroon melty
>>107875151
>>107874881Every major retailer jacked up their prices on Monday. Even entry level SSDs have breached $100/TB.
anons, OP here, good luck with all this noise. i had to add a badge to my smite counter. you idiots >>107874703 are on your own.>i swear it's a thing between us, anon just won't admit it.>shillanon, don't worry, i'll be back some other time.>i know you miss me when i'm gone.just remember to know what you're doing before you spend your shekels, all you larping /pcbg/ /faggot/ anons
>>107874808>>107874827Just bought Kryosheet 33x33
>>107875128Neat
eh just wait for 6070Ti, 2 node shrinks at once means it'll perform like a 5090 at 200-250w
>>107875351No a 6070ti will perform like a 5070ti plus 10 percent, but for an extra $300.
>>107875351i will 6090 for $10000
>>107875262is that pic insinuating that nicotroon sages his own threads? idgi
Should I buy a new paste tube or re-use my 8 years old Manhattan thermal paste?
>>1078753916090 will be a GeForce Now exclusive. $10000 sounds about right.
>>107875409if it ain’t solid just use it
>>107875351and it will have a 192bit bus and have 18gb of vram for $1200
Lol and Lmao @ anyone actually building a PC nowit's OVER
>>107875416Just tested it. It still spreads so I guess it will do for now.
>>107875427I got a GPU, ram, and storage last October. I can build another PC any time I want.
>>107875427I already own 3 PCs I can build a PC any time I want
>>107875427I have a PC, I can take it apart and build a PC any time I want
>>107875427I have a 9070XT 32GB ddr5 in and a backuo spare 32GB ddr5I need to upgrade CPU though
>>107875242I can't.What 1TB models can you recommend?
welp my local microcenter ran out of 5070tis KEK
>>107875517Mine still has them, but not a ton.
>>107875427I have some sand in my pocket right now that's at least 2 CPUs and 1 GPU die any time I want
so it was fud
>>107875536>PR corp speak that means nothingSure deboonked 'em.
>>107875536>asus >on the ground actually supplying 5070ti boards to global markets>nvidia >high on AI fumes and doing damage control to maintain their 90% monopoly on the gaymen marketgee, I wonder whose word I should take more seriouslyj2c proves to be a mega tard once again
>>107875548>very clearly says they are not ending the sale of any gpus>le corp speakno it's just proper english and a very clear answer
>>107875536Nvidia says they are shipping all SKUsand yet board channels say differentand AIB reps say differentand several stores say they cannot restock especially high end GPUsI even saw one store saying they'll buy old gaming rights off you and stores with stock have raised the prices on them but i'm sure nvidia is deffo shipping all these GPUs out, and still gifting the AIBs the VRAM for them too yep they sure are still shipping off 16GB VRAM to stick on 5070TI and 5060TIs
>AOC 24G4/P 24” 180Hz 0.5ms IPS>$128>AOC AGON QUAD Q27G4F 27" QHD 180Hz 0.5ms IPS HDR10 >$280is 1440p worth the price differenceif these seem overpriced to you it's because they are, tech market is terrible in my third world and this is what they cost after converting to usd for referenceand these are basically the cheapest ones as far as reputable brands goes
>>107875536Jay is always wrong. So that means it really is over for the 5070ti.
>>107875585>Is the beginning of the endDoes he have his little asian onahole write video titles for him?
>>107875536So these retards will redact their videos and put up new ones to correct the record, correct?
>>107875550ASUS rep (HUB claims) from a certain chain in aussieland, no way representative of the entire company as a whole
>>107875601It think that's Anustechtips you are thinking of. Jay has some white chick.
>>107875585yeah, that's the biggest reveal herei guess 5070tis ARE being discontinued
It's so disgusting the amount of nvidia shills/fanboys we have in this thread doing 24/7 damage control and disinformation. Why the fuck should anyone trust what nvidia says? They would never admit current gen consumer products are being cancelled becsuse it's a terrible look and would just silently stop supplying the chips to AIBs then deny anything is cancelled when questioned which is exactly what they are doing.
>>107875559it probably depend on the AIB's smaller AIB's need less chips to keep operating at full produciton while Asus would need a signfiicant more to properly supply board partners, 5070ti's and 5060 TI's will probably be SKU's mainly done by smaller partners and will be sold in premmium cards while big AIB'S like MSI and Asus will focus on the SKU's in which they can secure enough ships to leverage their contracts and logistics
>>107875674people would rather listen to a narrative from a megacorp than think about what's happening in front of their faces (e.g. stock clearing out, getting priced higher week on week etc.)
>AMDunboxed damage controlI thought this place would be smarter than to fall for tech tubers’ clickbait :/
>>107875674Stock was fine before this forced the panic and scalpers to buy out everything based on what manager sale in charge of Asus australlia said to HUB which may or may not be the case for other markets
>>107875711Stock is always fine until its not
>>107875720see >>107875709
>>107875709>that post says the exact same thing as the video>still all trueStop debunking so hard bro
>>107875741each market has their own needs Nvidia and Asus could easily be redirecting all the 5070 ti SKU's to America while flooding the asia and australian market with 5060s and 8gb card if they think that's good but Steve is a dishonest mongolid that will nevver admit he has only sources with australian representatives
northern cali bros get em while you still can :)
Why does this thread hate the Phantom Spirit 120 SE? Is it seen as so cheap it comes across as poorfag? All reputable reviewers show it's a quiet and good cooler.
>>107875628Doesn't he have an asian assistant who fucked up a GPU review a while back, when he was on vacation?
>>107875810>this threadIt's one fag.
So currently I have a 5080, 5900x and 64 GB of DDR4.I wanted to upgrade to AM5 so in a panic I bought 48 GB of DDR5 ($400) before the prices got worse. But now I'm getting serious doubts if it's even worth upgrading and if I should return that DDR5. Would changing to like a Ryzen 7 9000 be a noticeable difference? But also on the other hand I'm afraid the prices are gonna take like 2 years to come down so maybe I should hold on to the DDR5 since it's gonna be impossible to buy later. Idk what to do.
>>107875810It's a shit poorfag cooler yes. Loud as fuck and utterly beaten by the gen 2 Noctua.
Last month I boughted a RTX 5090 32GB, Ryzen 9 9950X3D, 64GB CL30 and a 4TB SSD. Will I survive the coming dark winter?
>5070ti 16gb>13600kf>gskill royal 32GB (2x16GB) 3200 MHz tuned to 3600 cl14 b die my beloved >MSI Z790 edge wifidoes it even make sense to upgrade to 14900kf? Will I feel any difference when I'm playing in 1440p? I run 750w psu I'd probably have to upgrade for the new cpu right?
>>107875871sure
>>107875810It is just one singular pooctua shill eternally malding because he wasted over $200 to have the same performance as my chink $40 cooler.
>>107875899Is it actually good and not loud as fuck?
>>107874696Not all that relevant I guess, but these graphene pads seem to rely on a heavy clamping force between the cooler and CPU. I recently tried putting one on an ancient CPU that barely even needed a heatsink, and has the heatsink put on with a little metal clip that doesn't squeeze very hard. It worked quite poorly, considerably worse than either paste or the crappy little thin metal sheet it came with between the CPU and heatsink.They seem to outperform everything but liquid metal with modern high clamping force screw-down coolers though.
>>107875916>>107875810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKkG9Z-_3HoHe compares the Thermalright cooler to the Noctua NH-D15 G2.For comparison, Burst Assassin is inferior to the Phantom Spirit.
>>107875871only if your 12v-2x6 connector doesnt melt>>107875835yeah 9850x3d is a lot faster. keep the ddr5 k it imo, the price you paid is decent
So what's the endgame of making local compute inaccessible for anyone but the ultra rich? I get you can offload productivity tasks to the cloud easily enough but cloud gaming is never, ever going to be viable
>>107875964This is how gaming will dwindle down to a niche hobby I guessNot including mobile gaming
>>107875964there's no endgame. they're just trying to kill off AI competition in the form of decentralized local AI but that future is inevitable as long as compute keeps getting cheaper over time and it would take many trillions over decades to keep that from happening
>>107875964
>>107875964AI is going to play games for you and your inputs guide the AI rather than controlling the game directlyBoom, input lag solved
>>107875964It's mostly memory causing this, sillicon is different there is nothing stopping from nvidia to use A18 from intel or start making Ampere cards again on the samsung foundry (3060 already started production) in reallity is all about Neural Memory, neural textures and neural compression lowering vram games uses so the consumer market can use not only lower amount of memory but even LPDDR or virtual memory can be used to store them , this is from a blog they made two days ago which was posted alongside a new SDK related to the memory compressing tech
>>107875964That is never going to happen. People will find a way to bypass subscriptions. The russians and chinese will figure out something, they won't allow the western industries to capitalize on desperation.
now had to refund the order i placed for an ssd cuz there was no stock grrrrr
>>107875322Buy a roll of Kapton tape if you're planning to use Kryosheet on a GPU die; the carbon sheet is thermally conductive.You want to cover the SMDs around the GPU die.
