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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Previous: >>107874666
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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia to stop production of some Ti variants due to the RAMpocalypse


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
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>tfw bought 5070ti a week ago
>Few hours ago 5070ti / 60ti supply being discontinued

Glad i didnt wait.
Also wtf is this captcha
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i last serviced this machine 8 years ago when i bought it off my friend. did my 21 y.o. ass put too much paste
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who do I get tech news and hardware reviews from now that Tech Jesus has gone full schizo?
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>>107880673
He didnt sell out like Linus and hes about to out of job soon
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>>107880646
>We continue to ship all GeForce SKUs and are working closely with our suppliers to maximize memory availability.

Directly from Nvidia. Doesn't make sense to not have cut down GB203 chip on the consumer market. The only way Nvidia stops producing the 5070 Ti is if there's a 5070 Ti Super that supersedes it, possibly with new higher pricing because of the RAM shortage
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>>107880673
You should be supportive of his jihad on jews
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>>107880664
Seems fine if the paste isn't electrically conductive.
The dies are fully covered with the paste.
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>>107880646
its not discontinued but they're dealing with the jew situation
nvidia has to estimate the chip demand when the prices are up and they might not be able to quickly use their existing tsmc capacity for anything more valuable
if they ship only the gpu but not vram the 3rd party manufacturers might go "we literally cant buy vram" and not buy the chips from nvidia and say something like supply is discontinued
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>>107880673
You just float above the melee, unless you want entertainment, in which case Tech Jebus is your preferred source for outrage and corporate hate
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/high-capacity-nvme-ssds-are-quickly-becoming-as-expensive-as-gold-by-weight-we-ran-the-figures-heres-what-we-found

lol
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>>107880687
Honestly in retrospective the 5070ti was never going to get discontinued as why would nvidia give up free ground to AMD considering the cards trade blows in some games.
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>>107880701
>No. There have been no major changes in how NVIDIA manages memory with its customers.
>They still receive the aforementioned GPU+DRAM combo.
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>>107880673
It's not schizo to address the world as it is.
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>>107880701
>>107880687
Even if its true, 5070ti prices are fucked and 5070ti super will never come
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>>107880524
I used to use +1500 memory on recommendation from ImWateringPSUs, him saying that just about any 5070 Ti will run with that without issue. I backed it off 10% just for longevity's sake, however I had no frame of reference for what they can do on the upper end. If 2000-3000 is viable then I guess I can bump it up.
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>>107880736
people are super sensitive to the situation and any news of "BUY PC HARDWARE NOW OR YOU'LL NEVER BUY IT" actually makes people rush to buy 5070 ti and some shops literally run out of stock due to it
as in they'll take a loan or buy the gpu on credit due to fear of missing out

releasing supers would be insane at this stage
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>>107880673
how about you actually name these retards because you zoomers exhaust me like I should know these talking heads by pics alone
context, nigga, context
not all of us jerk off to social media
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The 50 supers were cancelled. They were going to be the current cards but with a vram upgrade, you really think they're going to be giving precious vram to those lacking AI for their video toys?
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>>107880687
I honestly feel like im taking crazy pills, less than a week ago Asus themselves announced new SKU's for the 5070 TI and 5060 TI on the CES for their ROG division.

Why the fuck did anyone sane would have believe Steve that somehow managed to spin a PR response from an Asus sales guy in Australia into saying the 5070 TI's are EoL
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>>107880648
>at least the 32GB kit prices have settled near $300, which is around the DDR5 early adopter price.
Liar or a fool. Pic related is from mid 2022, prices were never this retarded.
>buy cheaper DRAMless/QLC drives as secondary storage if they need more SSD.
The lesser drives are now almost as expensive as the best ones, there's little to no choice.
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>>107880754
5070ti super are 100% cancelled at this point. They focus that on 6070 instead
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>>107880715
Well after the panic now the prices for the 5070 TI are retarded again, even the 5070 is above msrp now on amazon, fuck steve and fuck tim
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>>107880745
>If 2000-3000 is viable
Don't follow 5080 card owners' memory OCs btw.
The 5080 has faster spec'd GDDR7 chips compared to other cards, including the 5090 (32Gbps vs 28Gbps).
Those 32Gbps-rated GDDR7 chips on the 5080 are also downclocked to 30Gbps at stock.
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>>107880754
This is actually happening IRL. Retail and online sale volumes have confirmed. Pretty sad. I get that people want a good card, but if you couldn't make due with a 5060 Ti 8 GB @1440p, pretty sad. Almost no one is on 4K where more VRAM occasionally helps, at least not nearly enough that the recent swarm of buyers are mostly 4K enjoyers. They're probably mostly 1440p or 1080p FOMO retards who bought the fearmongering hook, line and sinker.

I'm not saying there's not a NAND shortage, because there is, but it'll be rectified in 2028 and I think most people can easily hold out until then.
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>>107880725
>generic anti-corpo ragebait
>schizophrenic anti-corpo conspiracy theories
>anti-progress (anti-AI)
>now inserting political beliefs into his videos
he's completely lost it. he's an out of touch redditor.
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>>107880858
even if current situation makes nvidia look like they made the correct choice with vram on their gpus from software perspective its absolutely insane to buy an 8gb gpu since year 2022
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>>107880673
I just pay attention to MLID now. I may start watching some Daniel Owen too, I've seen some of his videos in the past and he seems to have good advice.
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Anons I am getting worried that everything is going to shit and I won't be able to upgrade my 10 year old desktop..

I was planning to upgrade it later in the year when the next gen of AMD CPUs and the next gen of GPUs are released. The timing was so the pc would be a generation newer than the next set of consoles And I would be able to play games that have been ported over comfortably.

But everything is going to shit now. I have a perfectly good laptop I can use but if that dies I am worried I might be cut off from my hobby.
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>>107880911
>looking for a non-schizo outlet
>take a look at this even more schizo outlet
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Why is nvidia panicking about 5070Tis being sold out and climbing in price again, isn't it good for them
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>>107880858
it's worth mentioning that the Steam Deck has 8GB total RAM, and the Steam Machine will have an 8GB GPU.
techtubers once again being out of touch elitists claiming 8GB is too little, ignoring that most people play esports or old games, and are not on 4k. or if you just need to replace a GPU that essentially functions as a display adapter in an older system.
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>>107880942
they dont want the negative pr
they make 95% of their profits from AI datacenters and gamers being very mad doesnt help them any
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Is the 5080 future proof for 5 years yes or no be honest no memes or bullshit
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>>107880942
>Why is nvidia panicking
It isn't
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>>107880913
RAM shortage will be over by the end of the year.
AI "bubble" won't pop anytime soon though. it's too prohibitively expensive to make a startup, unlike the .com bubble, so there isn't 9,000 AI companies without products.
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>>107880324
You don't need a new monitor, you need a job. Who the fuck still buy 1080p in 2026?
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>>107880942
Bro Nvidia is not a Gaming company anymore
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>>107880967
Micron exec said 2028, and I don't see how supply catches up with demand without more fabs, which will take time to come online. Obviously the memory companies saw this coming in advance, so the new fabs have been in the works for a while
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>>107880959
Check the prices in your place first. If 5070ti is way cheaper. Pick 5070ti instead. Otherwise 5080
For gaming yeah but for AIslop probably only last for a year
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ASUS CLARIFIES

WE ARE STILL SELLING THE 5070TI WE JUST HAVE NONE TO SELL HOPE THIS CLEARS THINGS UP KTHXBYE
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>>107880598
What are the most important things to know or look for/consider when building a Dual GPU system?

Obviously the power demands are much greater, would an 850W power unit be alright handling say, 665W TDP?
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>>107880942
Because 5070 TI's and 5060 TI 16 gb are the most popular configuration SKU's (mostly being bought for local AI. Both for OEM's and AIB's You have no idea how many of those are solld to companies so they can be "AI ready" Steve saying that they are EOL because the DYI segment in australlia is not getting them from AIB's one week after these companies announced new models and made new deal during CES is not a good look
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>>107881016
>we're hypothetically selling these models
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>>107880942
Because it makes them seem weak and look like they're giving up the midrange market to AMD
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>>107880700
ye bit of a spill tho.

well, that oughta do it for another 8, fingers crossed
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>>107880913
Next-gen consoles won't be that powerful, console gamers want an affordable device.
The PS6's GPU might not even be as strong as an RX 9070, it will heavily rely on upscaling & frame generation for 4K gaming.
Next-gen console's CPU won't have a 3D-Vcache because of the added cost and time to package that cache.
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>>107881017
If you're buying decent cards, they'll each need a 12VHPW connector, meaning you'll need a PSU with 2x
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#J=2,4&sort=price&page=1
Lowest wattage pcpartpicker has for that config is 850 W in a no name SKU, but most are 1000 W. But yes, 850 W would be fine for a 665 W power draw.
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>>107881036
Both PNY and MSI restocked and are taking orders for 5070 TI's so once again Steve was lying and farming ourage
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>>107880959
>Is the 5080 future proof for 5 years yes or no be honest
Not at all, unless you only play esports a lowest on 1080p but then it's your CPU that matters most. Only the 5090 is future proof but if you cannot afford it (or won't buy because price is retarded) then it's moot.
If you can wait then wait for late 2027/early 2028 when they release 6000 series, that'll likely be around 50% stronger than current gen due to node shrink alone. They'll also release DLSS 5 for those if you use that. If you need something now get 5070Ti/9070XT at around MSRP, it is 87% performace of a 5080 and same VRAM.
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>>107881036
I keep seeing this meme you gonna bait me to watch Dexter
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>>107881054
>The PS6's GPU might not even be as strong as an RX 9070
Base performance could be a little higher, we'll see. Biggest bang for buck will be plenty of fp8 TOPs for fast, high quality upscaling
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>>107881016
PR backpedaling while NVIDIA points a gun to their heads.
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>>107881070
>>107880959

5070ti/5080 obviously gonna last for 3/5 years. Except AIslop
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>>107881016
Hardware unboxed are the retards that claimed RDNA4 was outselling blackwell, why would anyone take them seriously
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>>107880989
companies bought all the ram they need, and they only wanted high capacities. retards trying to scalp 16GB kits are already stuck holding the bag.
how are AI companies going to make consumer products if consumers have no electronics?
this was all fueled by OpenAI buying 60% of the RAM over the next couple years, and everybody else panic buying because they thought OpenAI knew something they didn't.
this isn't a consumer driven demand, like the crypto boom, it will be a much shorter shortage.
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>>107880996
I already have a 5080 but im debating getting a 5090 if its not future proof

>>107881070
> that'll likely be around 50% stronger than current gen

even the 5090? what about the resell value of my 5080 when the 6000 series comes out.
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Nvidia is a meme. Their RTX 4000 cards still shit themselves doing DSC.
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I got a good friend at Microcenter in Chicago right now who might be able to buy some stuff and deliver it on his flight back. I myself went to Microcenter last year during Christmas but didn't buy anything. Wondering what the best things would be to buy right now.
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>>107881108
No and no
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>>107880598
Shit is fucked
Shotgun to the face of fucking Sam jewman
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>>107880942
NVIDIA doesn't want an unhinged PC gamer from doing a Luigi on Jensen or other high-profile employees.
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>>107881104
The 5090 is the TITAN of this year. Its definitely gonna last you for 5 years. If you can afford it + your PSU can run it
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>>107881104
next-gen will have 1-2 node shrinks over current gen so you can expect it to be decently quicker while requiring much less power to do so
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>>107881120
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1ooytii/does_the_alttab_delay_still_exist_when_using_dsc/

>Does the Alt+tab delay still exist when using DSC?

>Only if you are using a pre RTX 5000 GPU. RTX 5000 and RDNA 2/3/4 don't have that issue since they have larger display heads.
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>>107881103
wrong the consumer market gobbling ram its because of block swapping which allows you to run large models on consumer/workstation gpu's as long as you agressively use system ram as cache, same goes with NAND and SSD as the key to run the recent SOTA large models is to have 128 gb and tons of space so you can use both virtual memory and ram memory to store the newer models on it cache
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>>107881079
The show fucking sucks
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>>107881103
>how are AI companies going to make consumer products if consumers have no electronics?
Everyone already has an AI capable edge client. A $50 Android phone can use Gemini
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>>107881079
stop after s4
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Why are retards believing Steve from AMDunboxed? Fucker lied about the 9000 series outselling Blackwell, and now he’s lying about 5070 being discontinued
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>>107881113
>5070 way below the price of a retail 5060 ti and 7800x3d at the price of a retail 5950x in poorland
I fucking hate the taxes they put on electronics in Europe sometines.
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>nicotroon got banned and now has to spam the thread from his phone
lmao
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>>107880913
next-gen is 2027, not 2026.
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>>107881097
>I only play at 1440p at best with AI upscaling and frame generation so it's fine
Those cards cannot even do 4K at 60 FPS native in current games. 16GB VRAM is the minimum now, not premium. It's only going to be worse.

>>107881104
>even the 5090?
It'lll be much faster, the 5090 is already 30% faster than 4090 in the same node, 4090 is 80-100% faster than 3090 due to new node.
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>>107881136
I have a 40 series card and a 4K 240 Hz monitor using DSC, no delay with alt tab. Try again, poorfag
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>>107880984
rude
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>>107881173
>native
Who gives a shit
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>>107881173
Stop playing Monster Hunter Wilds
Stop eating 4k meme
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>>107881171
he always spams the thread from his phone
must be excruciating, i could never shitpost on a tiny phone screen
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>>107880959
maybe the 5090, but anything else? questionable depending on what you play. the next gen of consoles aren't far off. 50 series use the same nodes as the 40 series too, so the 60 should be a huge jump with it's node shrink
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>>107881137
>128GB is consumer/gamer
32GB is enthusiast, 16GB is budget. anything higher than 32GB is professional.
>>107881157
>phones don't break
so again, shortage will be over soon, unless you're going to try to argue that phones don't use RAM or storage?
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>>107881160
yeah hes nuts, always telling lies to get the goyim to buy <underdog product> while he enjoys <leading product> at a cheaper price in the comfort of his home
he literally tricked people into buying slower zen+ and zen2 cpus 6-7 years ago too
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>>107880959
Raster is a meme, upscaling is going to continue to get better. never listen to /pcbg/ for advice
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>>107880984
>Who the fuck still buy 1080p in 2026?
by the way, that would make me the first, already placed the order anyway
might regret my choice if some 1440p sale happens soon, but I can't really regret whatever performance I get because I never experienced 1440p anyway
first time going to experience the jump from 60hz to 120hz though, I don't know if that's going to be more significant than missing out on the much better image quality from 1080p to 1440p
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>>107881079
like that other anon said, stop after s4. You can also skip s3 and jump to 4 watching a recap 2bh, s3 is not very good either.
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>>107881056
Really.dumb advice. Do not rec a 650W+ load on an 850W, ever hear of transients?

If you're doing dual GPU then go 1200W like anyone I suggest with a 5090, unless you know your shit and undervolt and lower max power draw.
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>>107880959
For gaming yes
>At 4k with path tracing?
No. That's only the 5090.
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>>107880959
>can I play future games at max settings always
No card is future proof, upgrade every generation.

>can I play future games at min settings
Class 80 card will last you 10 years tops
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since 2026 won't be the year of building a new system, what's all the monitor tech I should be paying attention to when looking to upgrade this year?
is OLED still plagued with issues like burn-in and screen finish?
is there any other good tech?
I want a high refresh rate monitor to upgrade to.
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>>107881288
He said total power draw is 665 W. That's not 2x 5090. Also transients have been minimized in RTX 40 and 50. Modern PSU are designed to handle transients anyway
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>>107881290
5090 is a 720p-1080p pathtracing card today and a 360p one in 5 years
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>>107881051
>pea sized
Anon its a GPU, slather that thing. Do a Gigabyte on those chips.
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>>107881056
I bought 2 5070 TI cards just before Christmas, I assume they are the kind of cards that need the 12VHPW connectors?
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>>107881341
Yes
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>>107881079
S1 and S2 are absolutely kino, not going to spoil any further but it begins dulling from S3 onwards (because the "meme black man" gets "reasonably" written off the show) and as you can see there is a very general consensus that it goes downhill after S4. Not going to tell you to stop there though because I personally hate halfassing shit.
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>hunt: showdown

man the most recent game i play is from 2018, and the last time i upgraded was mid 2023, this is getting depressing
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>>107881312
>is OLED still plagued with issues
no

>is there any other good tech?
no, maybe pulsar if you care about sample and hold motion blur above all else
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>>107881407
I purchase less than 1 game per year.
but I needed to upgrade because my system was way too old. core i7 860 -> 7800x3d. only wish I bought a different GPU, 4070 is cheeks.
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>>107881381
S4's ending is perfectly good and later seasons just insist upon themselves and flanderize everyone, stopping there isn't half assing it at all.
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>>107881313
Okay, if you think so
I rather pay over on my PSU because it's the "heart" of the the system imo
Less noise, less ripple, lower transients, better efficiency when you go plat+ on a well reviewed model by psutier or hwbusters
Also no excuse when there's really good 1000w platinum PSUs showing up for $150 on Amazon and woot (brand new)
Literally no excuse
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is it the year of the mini-PC yet? I want a mini-PC APU system with under 100W system power that can still game at 90+ fps.
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>>107881448
This all just FOMO, but on the part of these companies using AI right?
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>>107880795
>sloptuber make up ostentatious schizo claim
>get news coverage by every tech site and other sloptuber rehashing said slop fact
>backpedal later
>free exposure already ran it's course
>nothing negative happens
>repeat for profit 500000 times later because sloppers never learn and normies forget
>print money infinitely
why aren't you slopragemaxxing in 2026?!
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>>107881448
i hope none of the 18tb hc550's in my raid array crap out during this bullshit..
who am i kidding we're gonna print a lot of money and hardware will permanently be 300% more expensive than it is now and gold will hit 12/ounce... and wages will go up like 13%. We're just fucked.
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>>107881312
burn-in will never not be an issue but they last a lot longer now. think tandem oled monitors have been out for a while now too
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>>107881479
it will always not be an issue for me because i don't use an oled!
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>>107881475
mech drives will recover a lot faster than ssd's, i'm not worried about that. ssd's will be shit for probably at least 2+ years in comparison
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>>107881262
It isn't.
Frame rate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resolution
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>>107881160
Are there even any accurate public sales numbers for either amd or nvidia for current gen cards?
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>>107880879
>generic anti-corpo ragebait
Which is to be expected when corpos are face-fucking your hobby/trade.
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>>107881534
Best we have is the steam hardware survey, which even if actually believe the amd cope that neither the 9070 XT or the 9070 are being detected still shows that Blackwell is the best generation ever in terms of selling even above the cryptoboom
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>>107881262
How do you not have the $275 it would take to get an HDR capable 1440p 180 Hz monitor
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I quit gaming I'm going all in on stonks until I can afford hardware again
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>>107881448
There isnt even a shortage, they just buy everything
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>>107881448
Really starting to get pissed here. I've been needing more storage, but been trying to be responsible with money too. Yet I'm getting fucked over anyway.
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>>107881557
i guess all the negative press about the 50 series like the performance and melting cables didn't actually do anything
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>>107881582
Why would you need new hardware, what about your backlog of games from 95 to 2010
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RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti would be the sweetspot GPUs with 24/32GB of memory, the efficiency when undervolted is crazy. Shame the Workstation cards cost $1500 still on sale.
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>>107881651
For AI, sure. But those are gaming cards
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>>107881646
my last upgrade was from 512mb vram to 6gb vram MOBILE gpu true I can play modern games now
I don't need more
I'm set
I'm good
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>>107880795
Steve was correct and you're fucking stupid.

Australian Njudean supply stock is VERY low, and if the tarrif-free country is not being stocked up with gpus, everyone else is fucked soon too.

How fucking dumb are you? honestly, all the desperate goyslaves were dilating in excitement of Njudea announcing the Super series at CES, but they announced nothing for gamers instead. Also the AIB's like ASUS (who i also hate) had to scrap announcements THEY had regarding the Super cards. Moore's law is dead channel covers this.

>>107880815
potentially, assuming they're allocating anything for gamers at all until they stop making money off of AI slopfarms. And even if they are, you won't see the 6000 series until NEXT year, at best.
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>>107881471
Indirectly caused by "ai". Surge in datacenter ops means more servers stuffed into racks, means more HDDs consoomed.
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>>107881176
>>107881120
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>>107881136
Nvidia sucks dick wow who would buy their shit /g/?
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>>107881635
The negative press got the discerning buyer to verify the data, figure out themselves its bullshit, then proceeded to buy them out of suspicious-spite, as in, suspecting that someone is trying to hold them out on a good purchase via trickery. You have to remember that latest-GPU buyers do have money, and they often have money because they have half a brain (usually).
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>>107881671
>Njudean
Opinion disregarded
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>>107881441
always ignore the spergs who screech about buying PSU's with much higher wattage than you actually need. The price increase is negligible, and the long term benefits and additional peace of mind is worth every penny.

Also, getting those extra transistors can keep your pc alive and stable during micro-blackouts or power surges.
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>>107881312
Pulsar monitors vs OLED monitors vs OLED TVs
pick your fighter
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>>107881603
>I've been needing more storage, but been trying to be responsible with money too. Yet I'm getting fucked over anyway.
Exactly my situation.
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>>107881717
don't oleds last long enough now? why wouldn't you pick oled?
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>>107881441
>really good 1000w platinum PSUs showing up for $150 on Amazon and woot (brand new)
Point me to them, I need two, one at least 850W and one at least 1200W.
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>>107881671
Still seething becaue your parents didn't buy you the 5070ti almost a year later. Fucking hell man get a life.
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>>107880984
i did.
got two of these 16:10 bad boys for 20 bucks.
colors and blacks are insanely good, has ton of features like every video port you will ever need (i got it because of that, i can plug in whatever i please which is useful for electronics testing and repair), mic and headphone lines, two USB ports, excellent stand etc.
one thing bad about it is 60hz, input lag and shitty ghosting but i use a NEC diamondtron CRT monitor for gaming so i don't give a shit. all this monitor does is run apps and sometimes games that are too pissy about my monitor being 4:3.
also since it's LED ips display it's gonna last forever, i don't have to worry about burn in or whatever else
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>>107881717
Id never, ever buy an IPS panel again
my old ips panel that went into trash was relatively bad but whod want gray glowy blacks when using a display in any case?
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>>107880598
Has anyone in this thread actually had a 5090 wire melting incident? I'm kinda paranoid to install mine...especially since the new wireview pro is incompatible with my model
I know you should definitely undervolt but what else can you do?
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>>107881709
well, yes but no. If you are penny-pinching then it's always better to buy a good quality PSU that is "right sized" for your build than to buy some cheap chinkshit that advertises high wattage but is made with shit components.
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>>107880858
>I think most people can easily hold out until then.
I waited enough and there's a good chance prices won't fully recover
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>>107881809
The hype is overblown, a very small percentage of cards with the 12VHPWR/12V2x6 have had the problem (both nvidya and gaymd cards). Just make damn sure your shit is plugged in correctly and that there is some airflow, you should be fine. If not come back and post pics, we love that here.
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>>107881809
>the new wireview pro
wait there are now specialized gadgets to help against melting cables? are you serious?
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>>107881809
If it does melt you'll be the first one here to post an original picture
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>>107881809
I've had both the 4090 and currently the 5090 with thousands of hours of 4k gaming on them at stock - no undervolt - with no issues. Just invest in a high quality psu and use the cables that come with it, and make sure the cable is all the way in.
The internet just blows things out of proportion as usual.
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>>107881603
>bought 4tb ssd, 16tb hdd last year
>buyed 5070ti 9950x3d last year
>boot 64gb of ram
see u all in 2030
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>>107881809
I've had mine for about 6 months without a melting cable. I check it every other month to make sure nothing wrong and it's still fine, so I can only assume it's a loud minority as usual. I ordered a wireview for peace of mind but I'm pretty sure if you use an actual trustworthy PSU with an actual trustworthy cable you're probably fine.
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>>107881731
Seriously fuck this world, man.

>>107881868
I'm happy for you, but I hate you too.
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>>107881809
also cablemods apparently fixed their newer 12vhwpr cables for better contact
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>>107881705
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>>107881705
>shills for Njudea
assumed white-status disregarded

>>107881884
i did the same except i kept my 7900xtx, i don't buy Njudea, never have in 20 years of pc gaming, never will.
Frankly i don't know why everyone who frequents this general DIDN'T do exactly what i and the other anon did this time last year, it was the perfect time to upgrade, the components were as future-proof as they can get, everything was reasonably priced.

You had no excuse other than being poor, or having a poorfaggot mindset like the waitcucks, who will happily accept dogshit gaming experiences, for YEARS, just so they save 5% on MSRP buying a midrange card or cpu. You only have yourself to blame unless you just got your first job or something a month ago.
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>>107881889
it only took what, 3+ years for any psu or cable manufacturer to try and fix that dogshit connection? lmao.

>>107881877
>he bought a pc product where he has to manually check it monthly in case it catches fire, dies and burns his pc + house down
sounds like you got buyers remorse there bud.
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>>107881961
>Frankly i don't know why everyone who frequents this general DIDN'T do exactly what i and the other anon did this time last year, it was the perfect time to upgrade, the components were as future-proof as they can get, everything was reasonably priced.
for once we agree AMD faggot. the best time to buy was this time last year before the economy shat itself and the AI bubble got even fatter. now every poor waitfag is priced out and a high-end PC that can run games is a luxury item
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does the warranty even cover melting wires for your 5090?
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>>107881989
sure
your insurance does if nothing else
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Bros, is this a good deal?
I currently have a ryzen 5 5600g with 16gb ram, but I have no use for the mobo and aio included in the sale.
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>>107881312
>burn-in
Yes, still a thing as it always has been.
>screen finish
Not sure what you mean with this. Do you mean the raised black levels in lit rooms or something? I believe that was being addressed by some models that were announced just recently.
>is there any other good tech?
Like something with no disadvantages or inherent issues? Not really, unfortunately. The alternative is mostly mini-LED LCD. Those can go brighter and do not degrade with use since they don't burn-in, but the downside is that you can get haloing in particular scenes (extra light around bright objects on dark backgrounds).

Recently so-called GSync Pulsar screens were also announced. These are screens with a strobing backlight that have much better motion clarity and much reduced motion blur. That's their advantage and selling point, but as far as I know these are all IPS LCD and I don't think they have mini LED local dimming or proper HDR support. No OLED Pulsar screens either, at least not yet.

Basically it's a pick your poison kind of situation, everything has strengths and weaknesses so choose based on what's most important to you.
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>>107881981
Every other month means 2 months and you should be checking your PC regardless of what GPU you have. Go clean the pubes out of your fans right now.
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>>107881961
>assumed white-status disregarded
>i did the same except i kept my 7900xtx
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>>107882000
not bad for 500 us, x3d is the best you'll get even on zen 3 since it trades blows with Intel's top chips. That's a premium mobo too. I'd snag it
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>>107882000
>is 700 a good price for x3d upgrade + 16gb more ram?
lmao
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>>107881813
Which neither him nor I advocated you retard. I said to buy a quality plat+ with good reviews from hwbusters or psutier. I also know some Espanol (Spain) reviewer websites that are helpful too.

>>107881748
Give me an hour or so I am at work and will look quickly to see if anything good is on sale
850/1200 , got it
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>>107882014
(not any of those assholes) btw
no context needed
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>>107882019
if anon is a igpu gamer with the 5600g then it'd be an upgrade to get a x3d and a gpu but i don't know their situation jej
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How fucked is my GPU?
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>>107882044
About 7
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>>107882044
You mean if you use a broken cable, or what? Obviously, don't. Buy a replacement cable.
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>>107882015
>>107882033
Sorry forgot to mention that I already have a 4070. My current mobo is an msi b550m pro vdh wifi
>>107882019
I honestly can't tell if this is good or bad
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>>107882044
thats a cable, not a gpu
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>>107882044
you seemed to have fisted your wire really good somehow but it doesn't look melted so your GPU is fine. just get another cable and make sure it's not some cheap garbage. get an OEM 12V-2X6 if 50 series or 12vhwp connector
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@107881961
>woah dude look at me I got all the stuff I could at the right time aren't I cool? :^)
Just fuck off already.
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>>107882050
>>107882055
It's the cable that connects to my GPU and I just discovered it so I'm not sure how my GPU is still running with it.
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>>107882087
theres redundancy
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>>107882000
Yes that's a pretty good deal in 2026. If anything is going to carry you until the bubble bursts without AM5 it's the 5800x3d
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>>107882051
i personally found that having a 8 core x3d chip made my games less stuttery and some games like factorio even faster so ymmv.

it basically depends if your GPU is being bottlenecked in your current system. You can test this by looking at the GPU usage and CPU usage while you play a heavy game. 4070 is still a good GPU. x3d will help with stutters and 1% lows over your current 6 core. it's more like a side grade than a upgrade but it can be worth it
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>>107881534
sometimes vendors, like the equivalent of newegg in other countries, will talk numbers, but don't expect to see anything all-inclusive.
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>>107881635
the lack of supply did something. AMD did outsell Nvidia this generation, in DIY.
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>>107882094
>>107882095
Thanks. I'm having some trouble running CPU-intensive games, that why I was looking to upgrade.
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>>107882087
IIRC those cables have 3 12V pins and 3 GND pins which carry the power, then the other 2 are for sensing or something like that. If you break some of the 12V or GND pins, power is still connected so the card might continue to work. You should not use such a cable because if it's missing wires that means current over the ones still connected is going to be too high and they could burn / melt.

If it hasn't burned up or melted yet then the card should be fine, but obviously you should not use that cable anymore.
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>>107882114
how do mobo + ram combos look at stores for am5 + ddr5 in your area?
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>>107882114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN-n38dGP2Q
i'd check out benchmarks as well of people comparing your current CPU to your new one to get a better idea of what you'll gain. From what I see CPU games get the biggest boost
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>>107882044
GPU?
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>>107881748
1000w (for your 850) $160 gold
https://www.woot.com/offers/seasonic-electronics-vertex-gx-1000-psu-2
1200w $200 platinum
https://a.co/d/a5Q0UNt
SuperFlower VII

Both 10 year warranty
Both 3.1 ATX
Both reliable imo (never used SuperFlower personally at home)

Both rated well at hwbusters
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my worst mistake was buying a thermaltake psu and it fried my motherboard
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>>107882178
see>>107882087
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>>107882087
it should be obvious to you to replace that cable as it is a fire hazard in your PC
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>>107882124
No idea. I'm not looking to upgrade to am5 cause the prices of ram are fucked, and we don't have a microcenter in Canada lol. I just wanted a better cpu, but that pic I posted earlier also includes better ram and mobo than the ones I currently have, that's why I was interested.
>>107882173
Thanks for the link. I'll check out some benchmarks right now.
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>>107882217
can't be worse than my shitty corsair psu...
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>>107882217
It's weird how many PSU makers there are and how many of them are literal garbage bin recycling failing grade D/E/F products. Who even is buying some of these things? Ultra cheap company work machine builds instead of just laptops?
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>>107882242
but youre willing to spend 700 on a redundant am4 system
surely theres some electronics shops selling combos
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>>107882249
Corsair is fairly good unless bought some old ass RMe 2.x ATX... Their current HX/HXi are really good.
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>>107882287
NTA, 500 USD is solid for that combo especially in this market. Going DDR5 x3d would be at least double the price at 1000 USD.
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>>107882189
Thank you, anon.
I saw the Super Flower previously but this review dissuaded me since I can't really roll the dice, any other good recommendation in that bracket?
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>>107882315
For 1200 what do you feel is your price range if not $200?
I got more suggestions just hard to min max prices while on a phone at work.
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>>107881524
i see
>>107881566
i could shell out the money but there's probably nothing interesting i can do with it considering my current hardware anyway
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a 64gb kit of ddr5 memory is more expensive than what i paid for my lg c4 65 inch
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>>107882339
OpenAI has a plan, they'll surely do something with all the silicon wafers they purchased that aren't even finished RAM kits...
they have a genius CEO who doesn't know how to raise kids without the help of ChatGPT.
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>>107882314
I guess the prices are out of control in there and literally no good options exist
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I have an i5-12400
Switching to AM5 clearly won't be an option for me any time soon so would it make sense to upgrade to an i5-14600 or something?
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>>107882333
I don't think I'd go over $200, and at that point you're looking at Corsair models.
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>>107882422
14900k is the best ddr4 cpu there gonna be
if you already have the ram there is no other option
then ride off into the sunset that is DDR6
you already missed out on free 14600k's so might aswell
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should i sell my ram
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>>107882315
https://a.co/d/20ZhhHq
$220
FSP
Platinum

Also you run a risk with any psu
That's why you should have a PSU tester on hand
But I agree on Super Flower I find them too limited as a sample rate
FSP is not bad

Gotta get back to work sadly
Can post more expensive ones later
Be wary be Quiet pure power 13 series has an issue of blowing up too

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/6/
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>>107882434
y
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>>107882434
just
use it
?
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I forgot how to reinstall the side fan for this case. What are the chances of my PC overheating? Since it only has one fan now.
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Why the fuck do we use TAA again?

https://imgsli.com/OTQxNjY
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>>107882478
because you play vibecoded AAA jeet games that run like shit
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>>107882287
The only website I know that does combos is newegg. Haven't looked at other stores.
Idk how the offer in picrel for example compares to the 700 one I posted earlier
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>>107882477
Fans are the simplest shit. Post pictures or continue to be retarded.
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>>107882189
>>107882443
I see Thermaltake GF A3 and MSI MPG/MAG models, what do you think of those?
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>>107882494
No on Thermaltake
MAG is hit and miss, look up cons on hwbusters.
Can't say unless you state what 1200 is for - server? Gaming?
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>>107882357
>ayo chatgpt, fuck do i do with these wafer thingies?
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>>107882476
Why do you save gay race meme images? Stop being a like-nigger. Bleached is just as niggerish as blacked.Stop being a nigger.
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>>107882490
yeah the ram prices are 5x from the norm so that screws things up and they offer like -10% from that 500% price when its in a combo, cool

I guess sticking with am4 is sensible then
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>>107882477
without a proper fan setup you could get a dustier PC and more heat. just open it and install the damn fan. it's really really easy to do
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>>107882476
fine... i won't scalp some poor soul baka
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Weird how no one has mentioned this either

Maybe this will help with prices in 3-6 months who knows only 5% reduction

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/u-s-slashes-taiwan-tariffs-in-new-semiconductor-trade-deal-washington-to-reduce-tariffs-to-15-percent-in-exchange-for-usd500-billion-stateside-manufacturing-investment
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>>107880598
is this a good OLED? https://www.amazon.it/LG-UltraGear-27GX704A-2560x1440-DisplayPort/dp/B0FTPCP6S1/ref=sr_1_1

Or is oled in general a meme and I should just buy a 1440p IPS? I'm in the market for a new monitor since I've ben playing at 1080p for ages. I don't want to spend more than 500€
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>>107882568
prices are never going back to normal
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>>107882575
Go OLED at that price range
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>>107881809
If you're ultra paranoid about it you can buy a cable a solid bend and in-built thermometer.
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>>107882593
Possibly
Once China learns how to make their own RAM Nvidia is gonna get fucked
Right now they can make domestic GPU but not the gddr ram

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nvidia-china-market-share-to-drastically-decrease-from-66-percent-to-8-percent-analysts-claim-export-curbs-and-homegrown-success-to-blame

Excess stock means lower prices or more yield to consumers , especially if the AI bubble slows in q3

There is hope
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>>107882614
>Once China learns how to make their own RAM Nvidia is gonna get fucked
What's stopping China from selling their RAM to datacenters instead just like the rest?
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Is there anything I can do to fix PSU coil whine?
Should I just take it back to the store and ask for a replacement?
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>>107882607
any suggetion?
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>>107882614
>domestic GPU
yes but it's still shit tier, an Arc would be a better card
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>>107882630
Well knowing China they will want to supply domestic first so they can beef up their entire state
Also data center ram sticks different and require different ICs etc than consumer

Once they get those two squared away they will probably want to export for $$$
Also China will have tariffs slapped on them until USA fans are up and running in 5-10 years
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>>107882634
Nothing for PSU unless you're an electrical engineer
If in return window get replacement
If you're getting near the maximum wattage that's not a flaw, then bump up your wattage and look up reviews
Higher capacity plus better materials and construction= less chance of whine and then less chance your GPU gets whine
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>>107882655
Domestic is domestic
In China it's probably $50 to them b2b sales
Remember they have import tax too
That's why China is all about domestic production even if it's inferior, it's dirt cheap due to the state controlling all business dude
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Do you install the PSU with the fan facing up or down?
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>>107882686
if the case has a vent then down otherwise up
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>>107882686
Down, fan is intake. Mesh side is exhaust. Unless you want to sacrifice your PSU to have hot air as intake from case (fan up), point it down or have it face an intake hole.
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>>107882686
Down, assuming the case has a vent on the bottom.
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>>107882667
Yeah, it's way under capacity.
I'm gonna try re-seating the cables to see if that helps. Then try returning it and hopefully it's not related to anything with the motherboard.
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>>107882507
Home server with dual GPU.
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>>107882724
You're on the ball, that's exactly what I'd suggest. Curious, what's the make and model?
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>Price for XG27AQWMG came out and it's gonna be $649.99
https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/
So much for the $599 price they were promising
I have enough for it but I've been waiting for a month and idk if it's even worth it. If you go on reddit, you see a bunch of people complaining about the banding and I don't want to roll a dice for a $650 monitor. I could wait or I could go ahead and buy another monitor, maybe even QD-oled. What 1440p 240hz QD-oled monitor do y'all recommend, or should I just wait for this monitor to come out?
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>>107882732
Then go with the FSP imo , $20 dollar difference
I'd have to dig more into this as the dual GPU makes me wary, last I checked Corsair will also be a good fit (HX) plus iCue remote monitoring there are some downsides iirc and EMI issues (at least for SHIFT series can't say it affects 2024/25 RM or HX non shift versions)
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>>107882751
Can you check if there any good deals that dropped today?
They dropped A LOT of monitors recently

https://www.woot.com/category/displays-projectors

Fucking work today sucks so much news happening
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>>107882641
AOC Q27G41ZD 27" 1440p 240hz monitor because it's the cheapest one.
AFAIK most of the OLEDs with those specs are using the same OEM panel so it's just a matter of pricing & how you like the stand.
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>>107882763
And what do you think of https://www.amazon.com/MPG-A1250GS-PCIE5-Server-Grade-Capacitor/dp/B0DT2Q53TH
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>C-China will save us!!
I don’t think anons really comprehend just how greedy and duplicitous the chinese people, their companies and their government are…
they’ll be 10x worse than these current companies
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>>107882737
It's a Corsair RM850e
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>>107882811
I just want them to flood the market with cheap shit that "just werks" to break the fucking monopoly that current tech companies have.
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Is it a bad idea to use a KryoSheet on my GPU?
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>>107882657
*until USA fabs are up and running in 15-30 years plus tip
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>>107882751
Tandem WOLED is overrated. 3rd gen QD OLEDs are dropping in price and more than usable
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/alienware-aw2725d-27-qd-oled-qhd-280hz-0-03-ms-freesync-and-g-sync-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-hdmi-displayport-black/J3K4L6RFPL
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>>107882836
>cheap shit
anon if and when they do, they’ll only undercut their competitors by about 5-10% and call that a deal, and dummies will sadly fall for it
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>>107882686
I have mine installed facing up even though I have a vent downwards but I think unless I flip a button on it that turns the fan always on it barely ever runs anyway.
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>>107882798
No one really has reviewed that only A-GLS models
Or A-GL

Btw that model literally only comes with 1x PCIe so I hope both your cards have 12v-2x6pin

That's why I leaned towards FSP
Plus if that model is it's like it's sister from last year it will be noisy
https://hwbusters.com/psus/msi-mag-a1250gl-pcie5-atx-v3-1-psu-review/11/

>>107882813
Yeah those can be hit and miss sadly
I had RM power supply in 2010 and it was good but it appears Corsair priorities HX now
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I know this is a stupid question, but how can I see the most recent files changed on my C drive?

I'm not downloading anything, I basically don't interact with my C drive at all, but something downloaded 10 gigs to it yesterday, and even since turning my computer on just now, another 1 gig of something has been downloaded to it, but I'm not downloading anything. Is there a chance this is a forced Windows update or something, and if so, how would I find that out?
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>>107882838
Some have been in the process since 2020
>>107882837
No but you must get the tape
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Will 9070xt be the first ten year GPU?
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>>107882811
based chinks gave me a 5700x3d for $165 USD. i am forever in their debt
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>>107882837
it should be fine
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>>107882612
>buy a cable a solid bend and in-built thermometer
where?
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>>107882909
you should ask this in /fwt/ >>>/g/fwt
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>>107882913
>No but you must get the tape
New stock comes with tape (the yellow thing) according to TG
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>>107882909
search by date limited to yesterday?
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In what situations would you buy a 5080 instead of a 5070ti or a 5090?
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Is 100 yurobucks a reasonable price for a secondhand RTX 2060 6GB? I'm about to ditch mine and figure out I should sell it for a little less.
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>>107882914
It's the 5700xt of 2025.
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>>107882950
you specifically need 2 decoders instead of 1 and you are too poor for a $3000 gpu
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>>107882914
god damn her cock is huge
also no
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>>107882917
>gave me a 5700x3d for $165 USD
Aliexpress?
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>>107882950
In the UK the 5070Ti was like £700 and the 5080 was like £960.
So it wasn't so bad over here. If your running 4K, you really kinda need the little extra performance boost.
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>>107882931
>>107882939
Okay, thanks I asked over there. Another 3 gigs has been subtracted from my drive since my original post, and sorting by date modified doesn't give me anything that looks suspicious.
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>>107883002
there was a period before amd quit making am4 x3d cpus that you could get them real cheap from aliexpress
hope amd truly gets back on making those
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my neo g8 came today and jesus christ this thing looks washed out
it seems like hdr is on even though windows says it's off
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>>107883041
if you have minileds at max brightness on sdr that might happen


then you may test out https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm?tab=readme-ov-file for windows desktop
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which 5070ti model to avoid? i am looking at the asus prime and msi inspire 3x right now. also what are those screws holes at the back for?
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>>107883068
my brightness is at 55
the entire display looks washed out in desktop
already changed DP cable, updated to latest firmware, turned hdr off/on etc
it was actually fine for like 1minute and suddenly it got this grey haze again
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>>107883078
I would be limited to whatever is being sold close to msrp and just deal with it but theres fan noise tests out there
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>>107882914
1080ti already claimed first 10 year gpu and 5070ti will be next
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>>107883078
>what are those screws holes at the back for?
it's of an mounting solution to be provided by an OEM, have never actually seen one on a consumer GPU, have only ever seen them on Quadro cards.
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>>107883078
both asus and msi are decent, i prefer MSI though. any card where you aren't overpaying is good. use techpowerup to look up reviews for your 5070ti model
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>>107883084
yeah so its either some setting in the monitor or in windows?
you may try reset to factory settings
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>>107883095
kinda looks like a lot of them have them. kinda cool but i haven't seen any cases with the mounting for something like that.
>>107883086
well the msrp is 879 eur here and the cheapest is a zotac (829) (i don't want one from them really)
>>107883101
>>107883110
thanks
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>>107882914
not your underclocked asus prime, that's for sure
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>>107882952
You can just check other listings, that seems like a good price (if it's all included with taxes and shipping).
But everyone should have at least 1 backup GPU.
When you buy a new GPU (or really anything that has a piece of silicon that gets warn), the most likely situation where the GPU dies is within the first year or so, it's called infant mortality.
The 2060 can't play AAA games (the 6 or 7 non-optimized ones), and it will stop getting nvidia game-ready driver updates this year, BUT it will still get quarterly driver updates up to 2029 or something, just like the GTX 10-series (the game ready drivers are just optimizations for AAA games I believe), and indie games 8 years from now will run well on the 2060, because we know that 90% of Gen alpha kids prefer playing games on their phones more than console or PC.
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>>107880942
>and climbing in price again, isn't it good for them
nvidia doesnt see a cent from the dealer increasing their margin. They loose out on sales due to less people willing to buy
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I have a 3080 and a 5950x (bought just a bit early and missed out on the x3d cpus). Should I buy into my doomer schizo side and splurge on a 5080/9800x3d rig or wait until the 6000 series?
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>>107883173
you can go 5070 ti or 5080 depending on which has better value offerings
buying 32gb ram at 500€ seems a bit insane tho
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>>107882922
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1kxjbvy/simple_way_to_monitor_the_temperature_of_the/

Actually you can just do something like this.
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>>107883192
>buying 32gb ram at 500€ seems a bit insane tho
But what if it's the new norm, anon? WHAT IT IF GETS WORSE!?
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>>107883208
check out ddr4 and buy an x3d cpu when amd starts making those again
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>>107883158
>But everyone should have at least 1 backup GPU.
Yeah that's called iGPU
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>>107883173
i had a 5900x (bought it right before x3d came out kms) and a 3080ti so i was in a similar position to you before i upgraded. I have a 9950x3d 5070ti now. don't go for a 5080 if you can still buy the 5070ti. same amount of vram + it's only like 10% slower and the gap closes on a stock 5080 if you overclock the 5070ti.


it would say it was a worthwhile upgrade to go up to 4k OLED tv gaming playing through shit like doom dark ages, wukong, wuchang, deadzone rogue, stalker 2, witchfire, oblivion remastered, dynasty warriors, red dead 2 etc etc etc at max settings abusing DLSS framegen. the new DLSS transformer models also look so much better than at launch (less noticable trailing, ghosting and artifacts with frame gen) so it's really up to you. you have to play games that take advantage of the new features to fully enjoy it.

the prices aren't getting any better that's for sure.
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>>107883215
prices for ddr4 have gotten just as bad as ddr5
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>>107883158
i have four.
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>>107883221
buy used 32gb
or just stick to 16gb and hope the industry facilitates you with optimizing games more
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In hindsight, this aged poorly. But the fact everyone forgot how the 5070 and 5070 were just refreshes of the 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti Super is funny.

Or how 5070 beating the 4090 should have happened historically, given the xx70 card would always beat last gens flagship. This happened with the 4070 Ti even beating the 3090.
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>>107883111
did that
turning off local dimming from auto seems to help a tiny bit
what's noticeable is that it only seems to affect the lower half of the display, changing viewing angle does nothing
maybe the panel is broken
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>>107883220
>the prices aren't getting any better that's for sure.
I think this is the part that is up the in air. Some people expect ram/ssd prices to come back down in 2027/8 so if I wait until the 6000 series that timing might not be too bad. I can still play games on high at 1440 and don't really care about 4k. I'm just concerned about the opposite scenario where parts keep getting worse and personal computing continues to become less affordable. Can't decide...
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>>107883249
drama nexus and amd unboxed were anti-consumer in how excessively they shat on nvidia in early 2025
but, its youtube, they need views to pay for their mansions and whatnot
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>>107883266
Love how corrupt both those places are that they , along with a few other names, said "oops we barely got any extra DDR5 laying around" in late November or early December
Like wtf how do you not? Do you all embezzle all your test products or give them away to family members and that's why you got no spare parts lmao?
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>>107883124
Ew don't get a zotac, if you're European you should be able to find a palit card for around the price of a zotac
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>>107883284
in early 2010s I bought a zotac blower style cooler
it was so shit
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>>107883216
the Ryzen/intel igpu's are actually a fraction of the power of a $300 steamdeck.
And a 2060 is around 3x stronger than a steamdeck in fps (but userbenchmark says that it's 6x faster in synthetic benchmarks, if I use the 760m as a reference).
you physically can't run a shitty unity friendslop game like with an igpu (unless you set it to 720p / DLSS), because the stock ryzen (like the 7600x) only has like 2 gpu cores, while the APU version (that matches the steamdeck, for example the 8500g/3600g), has like 8 cores (and probably better cores that are a newer architecture).
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>>107883259
pc prices come in cycles of overpriced and then "okay" deals. with the major american corpos pushing for cloud compute out right saying it and still pushing ai data centers i don't think things will get much better soon. enthusiast PCs are slowly but surely becoming only for the rich to afford to build. if you're not struggling to run any games then you should be fine for a couple more years since most new games aren't that exciting anymore. i went all out with my new system and sold my 3080ti system to my sister for like 500 bucks so we both have computers to last us through our 20s.
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my biggest confusion about this is how would the 3 big ram manufacturers fail to capitalize on the demand this badly

like they have zero teams evaluating how much ram demand world will have in the future
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>>107883242
>hope the industry facilitates you with optimizing games more
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>>107883327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
it's a cartel and they're perfectly happy with the current situation. it was only stopped when the DOJ stepped in which doesn't seem likely under Rump
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>>107883332
at least for gaming it'd be super weird to make a game aimed at high end pc's in this scenario
they'll target ps5 for another decade
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>>107883327
they are betting on the ai bubble bursting before new production lines are paid off
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>>107883252
>>107883111
right now it looks great again
I might be going insane
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>>107883041
the whole schtick of the G8 was it was the first 4k 240 panel
it was obsoleted the moment 4k 240 oleds dropped
plus it costs even more than 4k 240 qdoleds so its been dead for a minute
pricing is absolute ass
nothing is better
240 oleds are 360hz effective lcd refresh clarity and its competing against va, they are not even in the same competitive bracket
now u also have to factor in all the issues with it like you already know, and then factor in samsung qc and delaminating panel, cracking panel and all this

>>107883084
black eq probably fucked up by default

>>107883192
non shit bin normie bin 32gb 6000c30 bumped up to 670€ over here
things indeed got worse
brotherman im signin out
im outta this bitch
bought a laptop during miner boomer because nothing else made sense and too lazy, looks like we might buy another laptop as a cope next time around

>>107883242
>or just stick to 16gb
remember that time I was shilling 64gb for 200$ and people were kvetching and holding onto their wallets on pcbg calling me a retard and saying go for 32 at best
and this was after recovering from the ddr4 pricing fiasco and prices came down and people still didnt learn
nothing ever changes
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>>107883352
>it was obsoleted the moment 4k 240 oleds dropped
I can't use oled, my room gets very bright and I use it for office work, lots of burn in risks
27inch is too small for me and the 32inch 4k market outside of oled seems really small... there's like this one, then the g7, then the benq for 1200 bucks and some 3-4 year old IPS ones
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>>107883377
>340nits sustained sdr
it does not seem very bright
maybe u need a real cope like https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/mobiuz-ex321ux
650 nits no local dimming
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>>107883402
that's the 1200bucks benq kek
my max is like 600-700
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I built in a 217 INF and installed the PSU fan facing upwards because the CPU cable wouldn't reach if it was facing downwards, I plan to put 3 intake fans above the psu, will this affect negatively the air flow or the psu?
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Are dual-mode monitors actually good or just a meme? Sounds too good to be true.
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>>107883352
>remember that time I was shilling 64gb for 200$
64gb of ram makes sense if you have a 5090.
because the 5090 has 32gb of vram which might be duplicated in system ram.
But if you have a 16gb GPU, it really wont add any FPS in a benchmark with 64gb vs 32gb, because it's hard to make a 16gb GPU even fill all 16gb when you enable DLSS, and I currently have 16gb of ram with a 6gb GPU and I have 200 tabs with 2 browsers open, and I play games on it without stutter, so I don't really understand the whole ram thing.
I do kind of wish I had 32gb for blender water simulation (the only thing that crashes with no ram), but using less ram massively increases the speed (I can't tell if it's because of the CPU simulation or because it's going ram is going into the page file).
I bought a 16gb ram stick (for $70 canadian) so that I had 24gb (same brand, it just worked), but I returned it because it didn't fix the problem of windows 11 explorer crashing once in a while. It legitimately felt like more ram made it crash more. I don't regret it, I'm waiting for ddr6 and 4 channel memory.
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>>107883430
I don't know if this is a joke post. Did you seriously add a single stick of RAM to an existing 2x8 setup and wonder why you're crashing?

You have no authority to speak on memory or RAM if this single fundamental is eluding you.
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guys I bought a 245kf and b580 :)
I'm all intel now!!!
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>>107883327
You're now seeing in real time how all of big tech is a cartel, and because the US has given carte blanche to AI to rape whoever they want they can now price fix and collude out in the open
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>>107883447
The explorer crashed before I added the 16gb stick (and it was the only application that crashed, I use linux as well, none of my applications crash, the only time my stuff crashed was when I undervolted my 6gb 1660 TI while running blender and that would actually crash it).
I put in a 16gb stick to 2x8 for 32gb But it would run at 2000hz (ddr5). And there was no xmp support.
But after putting in 1x8gb and 1x16gb stick, I got full XMP support on the mobo.
I suppose that if I got XMP, that means the mobo QVL's the 8gb + 16gb combo.
I probably would have kept it if I got the full 32gb with 3 sticks with XMP, but I felt scammed when I only got 24gb.



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