>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>107894485
Fact: A PC should be a nondescript black box
>>107897552Cool pic
>>107897557basado
building pcs with my bros
Anyone recommend some good RAM coolers?
>>107897557That's boring and bad for airflow
any good mineral oil recommendations to submerge my pc in?
>>107897580a single 120mm fan mounted with an L bracket or zipties outperforms all dual 60mm clip-on coolers on the market
>>107897560tnxim going to start a projectmaking some sort of duct/mounting apparatus that will let me cool my ram specifically using a standard 120mm fan...this is gonna be a lot of fun with calipers. also gonna have to be weirdly shaped and offset since my gpu is vertically mounted and my aio pump is massive.
>>107897589Apparently mineral oil is not inert enough, can seep into with components and make them swell or react with them. Use something specially engineered for that.https://componentsexplorer.com/novec-649-datasheet
>>107897580Is passive air from the front intake not good enough?
>>107897582A nondescript black box full of holes
>>107897582
>>107897582>>107897667Teletubbies/MLP vibe
>>107897691You're spiritually raped
>>107897574this but with holes
I want my native 4K 120 fps performance on the highest settings with ray tracing enabled. I want it RIGHT now!
Reminder that you are never experiencing the game if you are playing it with DLSS or FSR and frame gen. You always will be a CVCK who gets the sloppy seconds.
>>107897787Just use AI upscaling and frame gen bro. 4k native raster is so 2016
Are there any dual chamber cases without glass? I don't care about looking at my parts or my rgb, but the extra space seems really nice.
5700x3d paired with an axp-90 x47 cooler, idling at 42-46C. Is this normal? case is s300 ITX
>>107897834yeah that's good
>>107897824The NR200, either iterations will work well
>>107897787Raytracing doesn't even look better than well pre-baked lighting. It just lowers the bar for more jeets and vibecoding broccoli hairs to make shitty unoptimized games that look and play like shit.In fact raytracing often looks retarded due to not being able to completely compensate for devs doing nothing and expecting it to do everything for them. Like perfect mirror reflections off of wet concrete or everything just looking more dark for some reason.Man raytracing was a mistake.
>>107897840>dual chamber disregard, I’m illiterate apparently
>>107897834how employers expect u to work for minimum wage o algo.webm
bros what am I in for
>>107897853A gay laptop for gay retards, at least it doesn't have Radeon graphics.
>>107897853throttling for power/thermals whenever you want it to actually be under a heavy loadand don't shine a uv light on it unless you want to vomit
>>107897839didn’t realize this chip is more power hungry than my 5600x. had to undervolt the x3d to -30 all cores to hit this temp
>>107897878it's 8 cores... this draws more power than 6. Although per-core power will be lower on the x3d since it's clocked lower.Also idle temps DO NOT matter.
>>107897895that reminds me I haven’t run a cinebench stress test yet. what should the max temp be when running on all cores on this chip?
>>107897853>$483.59A box of rocks maybe
>>107897942eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerm
>>107897557*beige box
>>107897946>Ey saarYou're cooked
>>107897939Cinebench is not a stress test
>>107897962probably, worst thing that happens is they hold onto my 500 dollars for two weeks and I send back whatever they send me best thing is that they send me a desktop with a 5070ti
Seeing that the 5080 Noctua edition was selling for $1299, I went ahead and bought one for myself. Then last night I picked up an Asus Tuf 5070 TI 16GB to have since I heard that there may be price increases. I paid $829 for it, and the store had more than 25 available. Today I checked, and they said they are out of them and only have 3 or 4 of the PNY models left. I did a quick search online, and the 5080 is still selling for around $1399, but the 5070 TIs are selling for around $1100. I cannot believe that they are so high when the 5080s haven't gone up.
>>107897977mb I mixed up prime95 with cinebench
>>107897853Better than buying a PS5
>>107898000Really wish we got a 5070 Ti NoctuaWould complete my build with everything Noctua but paying 50% more for 15% increase performance I'd rather just get another NVMEAt least my 5070 Ti pairs with my mobo That and I heard the 5080 Noctua is heavier than every card that isn't a 5090 and definitely requires an anti sag prop or bracket
>>107898000It's how it's always been. Items with the highest sticker price are least impacted by price increases unlike cheaper items. Except in a crypto bubble where everything gets 4x'd equally because of the free money machine
>>107898000You bought two GPUs for yourself because you heard the price might be going up? You are the reason for prices going up.
>noctuahate the colour brown, and it’s an overrated, reddit and techtuber trash brand
>>107898069truarctic better
>>107898069>hating le brown fans makes me... LE COOL!
you guys have money to just get 5080s on a whim?
>>107898141Is it pronounced ca-PRI sun, or CAP-ri sun? Emphasis with the capital letters, respectively.
>>107898141yeah but only because I sell myself to crusty old men and fat dl truckers
>>107898069You do know they make black versions rightbut who am I kidding you made your post out of jealousy and cope
>>1078981415070ti mogs 5080
>>107898178>shitty gpu mogs better gpui don't understand
Recently built a 5070 Ti +9800x3d, now I need to upgrade my monitor.Leaning towards the monitor in pic related, but I'm also open to 1440p 300hz IPS.I do a wide variety of things on my monitor: internet browsing, youtube, single player games, overwatch, LoL, shooters, etc.Basically, is 4k 160hz better than 1440p 300hz?
>>107898150ca-PRI sun
>>107898196depending on your market, a 5080 usually costs 50-100% more than a 5070ti but is only 10-15% faster. good for the goys who got msrp ones
>>107898199Wait until monitor schizo comes back to threadProbably in 11 hours or in another day ~32 hoursThe only person somehow keeps up to date with all the YouTube shills and press releases
>>107898199Get a QLED instead. Alienware QLED.>Basically, is 4k 160hz better than 1440p 300hz?4k is better than 1440p. Better as in you can see the difference, but you cannot see the difference between a 240hz screen and a 300hz screen. 240hz is enough, going more than it would be stupidity.
>>107898211I'll take any opnion, schizo or sane.>>107898227I plan to keep this monitor for 5-6 years along with the PC which means burn in is inevitable.OLED looks great but that Alienware monitor is $700 which is almost as much as my GPU lmaoMaybe I just get a $500 mini led as a middle ground?
>>107898141You can get one for 999, dont tell me you cant afford that
>>107898141It's called "wire fraud" and it's cool and fun to do
>>107898274Do not get mini led. That's all I know until monitor shizo comes back. Either stick to OLED variants (v stripe W-OLED tandem or QD-OLED) or IPS (but idk what's the good ones other than pulsar was supposed to be the deliverance but it's due out later this year)Also, once you learn more about the ones you want, keep price alert on best buy, Costco, and woot
>>107898291use ipswait for micro ledskip oled
I <3 my 65 inch lg c4 tv i have hooked up to my 5090 9950x3d pc
>>107898300This retard have never used OLED in his life.IMO, once you try OLED you don't want to go back. It is worth paying premium for a good OLED monitor.
>>107898343Also iirc you want glossy on OLED bc matte finish on OLED gets it way too fuzzy and affects the contrast in rooms that are lit / lights on
>>107898310>I have spent all of my money on a PC and am too poor for a good 4k oled monitor and a TVWeird flex but OK
>>107898343i have an OLED tv and it looks great. My IPS looks fine too though, and I don't have to worry about burn-in from the many static elements i always have on my screens. I've been enjoying my ips for 6 years and it's identical to the day i got it and ill probably get another 10 years out of it.Ultimately, OLED novelty wears off eventually and all you end up with is less money in your wallet and a monitor that requires more care and has a lower lifespan than an ips. I don't really watch things on my computer though, i do things with it so ymmv. If watching shit is a big use case for your pc monitor, maybe oled is worth the scratch.
>>107898168black and brown are both disgusting colours, whenever I see anything a shade darker than cream yellow I immediately retch, they’re just disgusting, like really fucking disgusting, those brown and black colours pink, purple, red and white are superior colours, in my opinion
>>107898390thanks donald very cool
>>107898359i have 2 ips 1440p lg monitors for my desktop and i use the TV for videos and games suck my dick :3
>corsair going either braindead retard or bankrupt or braindead retard first and bankrupt later>seasonic is expensive AF>super flower i can't find any place selling the new atx 3.1 models any fucking where in europeWhere the fuck is the review Aristedis?
>>107897552the nostalgie
>>107897552Eggcuse me but what happened to 5090 prices? I was just about to buy one.
>>107898406>lian litheir electronics are shit 95% of the time. just save up and get a seasonic
>>107898420for about the last 20 years the price for 1 oz of gold and the nvidia flagship gpu have nearly tracked 1:1. The prices just corrected upwards closer to where it's supposed to be. 3k was too cheap.
>>107898421Their cases are goated though. Lancool 207 is either the best or 2nd best PC case for thermals and only $83.
If you were to pick one of these mobos, which would it be if I wanted the fastest ram speeds? (I assume not the asrock)>Gigabyte Z890I AORUS ULTRA>MSI MPG Z890I EDGE TI WIFI>ASRock Z890I Nova WiFi
>>107898421>get a seasonicEven budget Seasonic PSUs are good. There's literally no reason to get anything else.
>>107897552i miss customisable youtube channel pages
>>107898455I miss you.</3
>>107898446i have the mpg edge ti wifi but for am5. it's really really nice. i had an asrock at first but it failed after a month
>>107898402>5090>uses 1440p IPSYou didn't have to prove my point, but OK
>>107898545i have the best of both worlds and ur coping
>>107898572>1440p and not 4k>IPS and not OLEDOK bruh, whatever floats your boat
the cpu on my new pc is running way too hot when running some gamescpu ryzen 5 9600xgpu rx 9060xt (16gb)games like elden ring and bg3 the cpu stays around 65Chowever running cp2077 or helldivers2, the cpu somehow consistently stays above 90Ci'm new to ryzen, is this normal? from what i researched temps up to 80, 85 when gaming are expected but 90 and above should be a red flag
>>107898634>ryzenIt's normal. Ryzen's are safe up to 105C
>>107898634what's ur cooler anon
>>107897582>bad for airflowWhy? It has a mesh front.
>>107898359The C4 is better than most OLED monitors, what are you on about?
>>107898724>mostNo one's talking about trash oled monitors. >what your on about Let me spell it for you: anon spends money on a high end PC parts and can't afford high end monitor to pair it withHe should have spent that money to improve his life instead, he clearly have no funds to waste it on a 5090 and 9950x3D.That's equivalent to indians in poverty buying iphones.
>>107898641sounds dangerous. i don't even have pbo enabled, are you sure it should be reaching those temps?>>107898698its a local brand, had to stay on budget https://www.pichau.com.br/cooler-para-processador-pichau-falcon-argb-120mm-preto-pg-flcargb-bk01
>>107898634>>10789879765C would be fine but 90C is way too much, what mobo do you have? sure PBO isn't enabled? Sounds like shitty mobo PBO. You shouldn't get over 80C without PBO even with a mediocre heatsink.
>>107898810its a gigabyte b850m ds3h
>>107898406FSP tend to make solid PSUs
>>107898797I ran my 10700k at 115c before. It's fine. 90c ain't shit. Even 100c ain't shit.
>>107898888bro intel 14nm+++ is indestructible compared to what tsmc puts out these days
>>107898890SiO2 is SiO2 no matter who makes it tbdesu. What he has to concern himself with is throttling if it happens his cooling is fooling.
>>107898900SiO2 doesnt contribute to degradation, the migration of Cu traces within chips do and smaller nodes have finer interconnects that cant withstand as much abuse from high temps/current
maybe i should get the cooler/cpu repasted, i could have done a better job when applying iti know its probably not the reason for the high temps, because when its fully idle it floats on 40C and belowor maybe it could be, idk
every day I dream of the 5850X3D using 7800X3D TSMC 5NM 5GHz CCD with ZEN 3 GLOBAL FOUNDRIES 12NM IOD, it can't come soon enough, this one is already great, now ofc if you ask me if I would want a custom 7800X3D with 3D-VCACHE layer under the cores layers + a revamped IOD in a more advanced therefore more performant lithography, I can't say no to that, but I find hard to believe AMD will be doing this much R&D for an AM4 product launch in 2026.
>>107898141it's called having finished high school, kid
>there's 3 options for the new X3D chips on am4 and 100% one of the will happen:1) 70% chance they restart 5800X3D, which is a bad strategy because people on 5700X3D and 5800X3D have no reason to upgrade.2) 20% chance of zen 4 cpu with zen 3 iod frankenstein, because the R&D is just figuring how to how pin that zen 4 cpu on the AM4 socket.3) 10% chance of an entire new product that would be even better but cost far more to research and produce, this option would only make sense if AMD thinks the RAM shortages would last so long that investing heavily on AM4 would make sense.
>>107898141Have another (You), fucking attentionwhore.<3
>>107898406Corsair isn't going to bankrupt anytime soonStop slurping Dramanexus cock
>>107899033I think AMD, like most consumers also, will be waitfagging through the crisis
>>107898141>you save $2k per month if you live with your parentshow are you poor?????
>>107898994If they're gonna r&d anyway, it'd make more sense to backport zen5 since it has the same physical footprint and still works with the old IO die layout, while not costing more to massively produce, being on the same node family as zen4
>>107899079This is a dream but Im sceptical of it happening. I dont think mainboard and ram manufacturers would be happy.
desu
>>107898406If you are worried Corsair is pulling some shit on consumer NZXT makes similarly priced and just as solid PSU too, MSI PSUs are ok too>>107898857If Seasonic is "expensive as fuck" FSP is just as bad then
>>107899155reminder Trump is kickstarting WW3 over an iceblock because the iceblock has the biggest virgin desposit of rare materials prospected on the planet so far for semiconductor industry needed so much by OpenAI and Nvdia for more datacenters btw
UwU
do these gpu fans typically have the standard 4 pin fan pinout?
Intel first to ship Gate All Around(GAA) and backside power delivery x86 CPU, beating TSMCTSMC still doesn't have backside power delivery for years to come
>>107899274Gae
>>107899208>FSP is just as bad thenMy 1200w was one if the cheaper units for the quality a few years ago.
>>107899313In europe new FSP 1000W are between 250-320€
>>107894982Wait wtf we have Amazon now? Since when? Have I been missing out?
>remove gpu cooler>its direct heat pipe>2 to 6mm thermal pads thanks goygabyte
I upgraded towards the end of last year and I've still got my old parts here collecting dust. I'm in europe, would these be good prices to ask? >R5 3600 (non-X version) - 40 euro>6700XT FE - 240 euro>2x8 ddr4 3200 CL16 - Honestly no clue, secondhand prices seem to vary , probably somewhere between 70-100?Or am I over/undervalueing something here?
Why does no one talk about this monitor? Seems like insane value.
Is it even worth buying a PC with the RAM prices as they are? I was looking into a GTX 5070 build with AMD Ryzen 7800X3D. 20% of the price is the RAM alone if I go for a 32GB kit. SSD storage prices are also going through the roof. If I remove those from my build the price becomes bearable.Only reason I've been looking into this is cause of all the talk of shortages and Nvidia discontinuing their gaming GPUs. Though I've been waiting it out for decades now, it would probably be stupid to bite the bullet when the prices are worst they've ever been.
>>107899469Doesn't seem too bad on first glance other than having DP 1.4 only.
How do the fuck is coil whine addressed as a normal thing these days, especially when monitors does it? People really don't see the problem hearing high and low pitched whine, depending on the displayed content on their monitors?>"bruh just wear headphones"That's not a fucking solution, that's just hard cope. Why can't manufacturers at least make external PSU for these monitors that suffer from BZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZ BRRRRRRRRR WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 24/7 all day every day motherfucking piece of shits
>>107899572>coil whine on monitorsWtf? Is that a thing now? How tf does a monitor have coil whine? It shouldn't use much power
>>107899588I just bought a UW OLED and it does it like crazy. Sent it to RMA, they replaced the power board, same shit. They linked me the ASUS website, that explains that iT'S nOrMaL and now I'm stuck with this shit. Imagine hearing mosquitos inside your monitor with no rest. Funny, that it gets loader and more annoying when the brightness is lowered. BZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZ WRYYYYYYYYYYYY WROOOM BZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZ
>>107899588It's always been a thing with high powered TVs like Plasmas and OLEDs and CRTs. Monitors are finally getting SDR/HDR on par with TVs which means their power consumption goes up.
I'm buying 256 GB of DDR5 regardless of the price. I will not waitfag, this is the last PC I will build before WWIII
>>107899572My first PC made noises whenever I moved a mouse on the screen. That was a CRT with some shitty Genius speakers. Nice to see that we're looping back.
>>107899711bsaed, render as much nude anime girls as you just can
>>107899155same energy
>>107899810are these the guys that said theyre going to stop selling ram to poor people?
>>107899823Yes.
>>107899823Solidigm (part of SK Hynix) also stopped selling to consumers some time ago and look at them go
>>107898797>The AMD Ryzen 5 9600X is designed with a high thermal ceiling, typical of the AM5 architecture. While it is more efficient than its predecessor (the 7600X), it still utilizes aggressive boosting behavior that can drive temperatures up to its maximum rated limit under heavy loads.>It is important to note that reaching 95°C during intensive tasks (like Cinebench or video rendering) is considered normal and safe by AMD>t. Thinking geminiI'm sure you can find AMD stating this is fine. I even remember anons making fun of it.
>>107898141They're Americans. 10% of them are literally millionaires. You can work at a grocery store and earn 5090 money in a couple weeks. The only reason any american is broke is because they mindlessly consume nonstop. If they lived frugally they would literally become a multimillionaire in 5 years minimum.
>>107899810>>107899932And people say gaming matters. The results speaks for themselves.
>>107899975without gaming some of those companies wouldn't be in the position they are right now
>>107899973
>>107899975It matters to people who say that. But real world don't care about them.
>>107899973Wow. Can I move to your dimension? I make 40k a year working 60 hours a week. I live pretty bare minimal minus my PC.
Anyone have any experience with Z-Edge and Koorui monitors?I don't know about Z-Edge, but I read that Koorui uses the exact same panels as AOC, but obviously I cannot confirm if this is true.I'm trying to look into cheap chinkshit alternatives that aren't outright scams.
>>107899986>we were gamers n shietBoo hoo, go back in time and unmake those companies.
>>107899956>cinebench>intensiveit's just funny to me because my raptor lake "housefire" stays at the all-core max in cinebench, still a bit under 253 watts, yet still doesn't get hotter than 76c. Who is really the housefire if even a relatively moderate load like cinebench brings your clocks down by thermals... now obviously with that power limit i lose some clock speeds to as low as 5.3-5.4ghz running actually intensive tests like linpack or p95, but still. I didn't know Ryzen was brought to its knees that easily.
>>107900005If your CPU fails to run at it's maximum capacity during CPU benchmark then it's your CPU issue.
>>107899986Why would they give a shit? It was over the second the fat white nerds got fired from gaming.
>>107900002I couldn't care less about them chasing the AI bubble but likewise I won't give a shit about their products if they come crawling back to the endconsumer market if it happens to backfire
>>107900030Yes you would because they are the only ones capable of making the products.
>>107899932erm why dont they have a us stock
>>107899975Memory is used for far more than just gaming. It's in almost every electronic device.
>>107900030Unironically, they don't care and never did. Enterprise was always paying way more. Consumer market is just advertising and a way to get rid of scraps that didn't make into enterprise.
>>107899995This is 4 times more than I earn.
>>107900052S(outh)K(orean) Hynix
>>107900069Yes and my prices and expenses are 5 times yours just to live and eat. The US dollar worthless in country, it only has value in countries with a poor exchange rate. A fast food meal now cost $15 on average. I make my own food because it's too expensive.
>>107900095same with the euroshekel but the east gets the same high prices with lower wages.
received my first paycheck from my first job and I'm looking at building a pc with my spoilsa year ago I was looking at ryzen 5500s & 5600s and intel 12100s & 12400s but it looks like they've all gone up in price. so have motherboardsnow I'm thinking about using a xeon chip and x99 instead. I'm still in the process of figuring out which one I need and I'm looking for some advice in regards to picrel. where do I go to find this information for myself on other models?
>>107900106Luxury stuff such as electronics is better in the US because the price stays the same world wide and our base pay is higher, but the point is if you cant afford housing and food, it's meaningless.
>>107900116have you considered training your self-restraint slightly and saving for a few more paychecks to build a pc that isn't literal e-waste
>>107899155as soon as ram prices start dipping im selling my $MU shares
>>107897552I use my rtx 5090 primarily to watch gameplay Videos on jewtube
>>107900128you can only buy so many tv, phones, cars, pc and other electronics.
>>107900143No I cant. I need to pay rent and eat.
>>107900136my self restraint is fine. I am not going to spend more than 600 on a pc, period. I don't need to save anything. and regardless of cost, I am on principle not going to pay for a cpu that was 25% cheaper a year ago. they should be going down in price, not up.
>>107900116xeons are worthless for desktop use. no clock speed, bad memory access latency while having high power draw.
>>107900160I know all these things and don't care because they're dirt cheap. I've seen benchmarks of them running the games I want at the performance I want and that's all I need to know
>>107900116>>107900175consider getting mobile i9s adapted to the atx/matx form factors. they go by the term 魔改 cpu on ali/taobao. there are cpus like the 11900H tigerlake, 12900H alderlake, 13900HX raptorlake that perform decently while being pretty affordable
>>107900197sounds interesting but I'm not finding many results. I'll keep an eye out though, ty
>>107900116>Ryzen 5500/600 in 2026>xeonBait
When can we expect Bartlett Lake to release? Will it be available to consumers or is it going to be enterprise only?
>>107900155i mean with how money has collapsed in value that's like saying you won't spend more than $150 for a pc 10 years ago. you're going to get garbage, but if some x99 shitbox enough for what you use it for that's what matters.
How do I cope with the fact I got priced out of a 5090 and best I could do was getting a 5070 ti?
>>107900278Just save for a 6090. From the looks of it even the 5070ti will retain value.
>>107900278turn the pcbg general thread into your anti-5090 schizo copypasta spam warzone for 12 months. Edit the OP to make sure noone buys a 5090.
>>107897557I finally built a gay led lightbox with all the blinky lights. Big mid-sized desktop with clear side i pulled off curb, made by ibuypower with a 1000w supply still attached. All fans are argb, custom 3d parts to adapt things, etc. The x99 mb can't control it so its just on a remote until I can make up an arduino controller... or not. It's been fun. I've always wanted to try building one from parts and had time and most of the stuff on hand.
>>107900286Is this sloppa of Konata?
>>107898406Super Flower is flooding in my country :-)
>>107900278just tell yourself that you chose not to buy a 5090 to not support nvidia's profiteering scam
>>107900304my 5080 may or may not have popped it out
>>107897552/pcbg/ will soon cease to exist
>>107900323It's already a walking corpse.
>>107900323pc building will still be a thing even in 40 years, even if it's less than 5% of people. There's still even a market for muscle car builders. There are people who simply will refuse to accept the terrible latency of cloud gaming, even if most of them will because the allure of having a high-end pc that auto repairs and auto upgrades itself for $10 a month or whatever is too high to resist... niggercattle one and all everybody.
>>107897624Learning to use shell tools like loft are the hardest parts of those projects for me design wise.
>>107900323guy's gotta find someway to make his trillions of gpu inventory not turn to scrap overnight when the AI fad passes
>>107900345>$10 a monthIt will be more like 100 a month when they corner the market.
>>107900363idc what it costs im just not doing it. Rather drop $30k on a pc.
>>107900345I rather buy a Muscle car if PC hardware is as expensive as Muscle cars
>>107900278The same way ugly people and trannies cope. seethe dilate and lower your settings.
>>107900372i would get way more joy out of a pc than some fuel guzzling garage ornament desu
just read an extremely homosexual post
>>107900369I have a 5090 and expect if to be viable long into the cloud gaming push.
>>107900323Why anyone would take this statement seriously from a guy that sells cloud computing is beyond me. Also see Chromebook
"muscle" cars are for homosexuals
>>107900387Stop reading your own post.
bread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WUoJbXw7vI
I don't know what to buy or upgrade...
>>107900394Because my whole life i've seen how people are. Steam taking over, people happy to not own anything, people who value convenience over everything, people destroying my once rural paradise invading shitting it up with crowds and traffic and subdivisions and stores making everything worse for convenience.This species is The Raped. you will also note that 90% of human beings are literal bugs that are happy to live in city hellscapes for the "convenience" and "opportunity" and many there do not even have a license.Sometimes I wish I was born as a pine tree.
>>107900432post hwinfo64 spec summary
>>107900435>Because my whole life i've seen how people are. Steam taking over, people happy to not own anything, people who value convenience over everything, people destroying my once rural paradise invading shitting it up with crowds and traffic and subdivisions and stores making everything worse for convenience.>>This species is The Raped. you will also note that 90% of human beings are literal bugs that are happy to live in city hellscapes for the "convenience" and "opportunity" and many there do not even have a license.>>Sometimes I wish I was born as a pine tree.
>>107900323Are people still going off that one click bait article about an interview years ago with him?
>>107900475you're part of the 90% of bugs who would pay for cloud compute, noted. don't care though.
Are there any major downsides to buying a used gpu? I've always bought new ones but the new in box ones are too damn expensive now.
>>107900490the quiet part is gpus aren't actually getting more expensive. you're getting poorer. 1 ounce of gold bought you an nvidia flagship in 2007 and in 2026 it does the same. Enjoy the stagnation and century of rape.
>>107900490yes
>>107900372Same bro. I actually bought my muscle car in 2005 and finished restoring it in 2015.It is a 1987 Buick GNX.I can’t find any games worth playing that have been released since 2018 that are worthy of upgrading from my RTX 3060Ti and Ryzen 9 3950X PC. I just don’t fucking care enough about these woke jeet-ware modern “games”https://youtu.be/1WYOAib_GGA
it's over...
>>107900435I'm surprised Nvidia NOW can keep itself afloat. Streaming games is simply not viable if you either have a limited plan or a mediocre ping fucking up inputs unless you play the most streamlined movie games but even then a playstation or xbox with some subscription would be better, no?
>>107900528'sup, im wide awake and ready to get your next attempt at a brand war shill thread deleted again.
>>107900528>342Wwoah, that 9070xt will burn out and die within 2 years
>>107900534just look at those 0.1 lows...>>107900545just like the 5070tis single use connector
>>107900476Posting bharat_nation should be a bannable offense.
>>107900549>353Wit just keeps getting worse... Another Major Disaster is brewing...
>>107900528Just buy a 5070 Ti already...
>>107900549Can your AMD do THIS ?
>>107900545GB203 isn't really breaking any grounds in performance with barely improving on the 4080, but it really does impress when it comes to efficiency. Not something you see from Radeon, and the 5090 is just an inefficient albeit powerful hulking brute.
>>107900557I don’t masturbate to children
>>107900574grim
>>107900574Thats a render
>>107900557YesOn windows toohttps://files.catbox.moe/siq6bd.png
>>107900557nvidia users are trannies, faggots, furries and pedos. got it. anything else i should know about?
>>107900593dont forget based
>>107900549Gayming isnt everything. Go back to >>>/v/
>>107900585A render of a child
>>107900528>>107900549Let me guess.Ray tracing off?
>>107900587>Time to generate : 5 minutes lmao
>>107900610more like 20 seconds though?
>>107900599Shes 14 (1000)
>>107900601AlwaysGamersNexus said it themselves.Turning ray training in isn’t an accurate comparison of performance since AMD can’t raytrace. Just like you should never count fake frames. Because it isn’t like-for-like if AMD isnt capable of a feature
>>107900616>20 secondsOHNONONNONONONONONO my RTX 5070ti does that in 3 seconds.Now try Flux Klein 2.0- oh wait, you cant
>>107900610Nah, something like this is 2-3 minutes, and that's mostly because it's technically like 3 separate generation steps to get it to the right resolution and upscale small details. 50-Series is extremely good at AI shit.
So my 6600xt gets 100fps in warthunder but I’m expected to spend 600 dollars on a 9060xt because it’s new?
>>107900634i can't play anything past 9.3 anymore...
>>107900619...out of 10!
>>107900634its a necessary expense if you want to continue getting updated drivers
>>107900632Nvidia do that 10 times faster than that and its not even 5090. AMD really behind. This is why i will never go back to AMD GPU ever again
>>107900634But anon, how else are you supposed to play fancy new UE5 slop?
>>107900639The game definitely gets less fun in the higher BRs. 8.7 was peak for me in my Russian lineup.
>>107900643i miss amd finewine, remember when nvidia couldn't do dx12 but several-generations old radeon cards could...
>>107900634old games are weird where they work better on older architectures. you see this with pascal where its getting better stable framerate in dx11 than newer gpus.
>>107900528>>107900549If it is such a good card why are you so mad you didn't get a 5070 ti instead?
>>107900620AMD can raytrace, the performance is just really bad.Why would that be excluded? The cards can still do it. Just really badly.
>>107900643Warthunder isn’t new so it’s fine that I don’t get driver updates
>>107897552should I hold out with my AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + 4090 build until prices get low again or buy something new before I become part of the permanent underclass
>>107900649nah it's because of picrel
>>107900671Its gonna get worse anon. Buy NOW
It finally happened.. how fucked am I?
>>107900528>>107900549>not even RTWow both suck. My literary poverty shitbox from two years ago with a 4080S that cost less than a 5070 Ti does right now even manages better.
>>107900699cooked>>107900705looks good to me
>>107900323he's right doe. today, it's far cheaper and easier to rent a server than hosting your own. the same thing will happen to gaming
>>107900557Tales of Graces started out as a ATI Radeon game for Nintendo.
>>107900620nice gaytracing
its time bros
all of this because his mom did not want to buy him a 5070 ti
>>107900774why is there dried cum on your pants
>>107900774Oh nice.I found the liquid tastes kinda weird myself.
>>107897552I miss old flash youtube
>>107900795>why is there dried cum on your pantsdo you see what's in my lap?
>>107900774>sprm liquid
>>107900801Just go back to 2007.
>>107900601youtube benchmarkers are retards path tracing is scary and evil to them lol
>>107900734Yeah, ATi being the important bit here, not AMD nu-ATi that has nothing to do with ATi.
>>107900774>dlss 4.5 not included
>>107900820AMD completed its acquisition of ATI Technologies on October 25, 2006. Nintendo Wii released to the masses in November 19, 2006.
>>107900774Where's the rest of the build??
>>107900861And?
>>107900725too bad you have input delay that can make games insufferable. Sub 10 or even 20ms isn't a given yet anywhere. people will just return to consoles or use their phones instead
>>107900871They had to get their SDK shit from AMD since Graces didnt come out until 2009.
>>1079007025070ti is a repackaged 4080 super with 4x frame gen and for a cheaper MSRP (749.99) soo yeah congrats I guess
>>107900774
>>107900557>>107900734Tales of Hebephillia
>>107900956yeah, I came. what do you want me to say?
>>107900975OwO
I can't believe I got shilled by fucking niggers in this thread that told me AM5 tax wasn't worth it and Raptor Lake "was such great value" I fucking hate my 14700k this thing is garbage in escape from tarkov. Now it's too late to swap to AM5 and 9800x3d because of ddr5 ram prices. I hope all the intel shills ITT get ebola and shit blood out their asshole until they die
>>107900989sorry you fell for the shitel meme. their top CPUs can't even beat a 5800x3d with ddr4.
>>107900905Even if thats fixed i doubt cloud will ever do the same as it did on the server space, mainly because unlike the case of hosting there is nothing stopping the people or playing 20 year+ of modern games or watching movies ,etc on most low end pc's and nothing that is coming out will justify it,at best some people will rent a few months to play some FOMO new release like GTA6 if they realyl are priced out but the gaming space is completely dead, they would need to invent the equivalent of virtual reallity but not gay and without controls and be stupidly expensive to truly get people to rent pcs in the form of virtual reallity pods rather than desktop computers which to be fair may happen in the next 50 years lmao
you posted this already yesterday
>>107900989>escape from tarkovjust play arc raiders nigga
>>107897552Getting a 5070ti in this week (got it for MSRP), should I upgrade my PSU? It's currently running a 4070 super just fine.>New GPU:MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7>Current PSU:EVGA 850 G5, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, 220-G5-0850-X1
>>107901002he spams the same post whenever he doesnt get to shit the OP see >>107900783
Friendly reminder that companies being shitty with consumer support doesn't mean their products are shitty too.
>>107900989Sounds like a skill issue. I own both AMD and Intel and only the latest AMD X3D can outperform my 14900K. 3D cache simply could not overcome the latency from glued together dies until they finally got the frequencies well up past 5.2Ghz. Now the technology has matured. But at the time you bought, it was not
>>107901020>>107901011
>>107900989k nicotroon
>>107901016nah you'll be good. i have a 5070ti and it never goes above 300 watts of power. Very power efficient compared to my old 3080ti. 850w will be fine even with a power hog CPU. undervolting it gives you same performance for less power and heat as well. good choice anon enjoy your new GPU be sure to have some games to test out dlss 4.5 and the new 3x and 4x frame gen
>>107897853>ram costs more than entire build>ssd costs 50% of entire build>gpu costs uh idk what the desktop equivalent is but atleast 75% of entire build?valuemaxxerI would buy this to replace my shit too, too bad laptop prices are ass
>>107901032Supply shortage =/= no more software updates
>>107897853>acer>gaming laptopyou're in foroverheatingt.acer laptop owner during university
>>107901016If you have 4070 super you should upgrade to 5090 instead. 5070ti from that isnt worth it
I game at 1080p 60 fps. Running nice and cool, low power. It's better that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZMAoC50iOwMLID says entire 50 series is dead and Nvidia is exiting the consumer GPU market
>>107901048>labeling them as "end-of-life" due to lack of GDDR7 memorywhy bother optimizing for GPU NOBODY owns and its EOL
Nvidia still crashing on wuthering waves
>>107900999The only games that require top tier hardware are the unoptimized AAA ones and those need a lot of sales to cover the dev cost. I doubt they would make good money with cloud gaming. Before cloud gaming takes off it's more likely that the devs have to adjust to the market situation.
When and how did the 16GB 4060 Ti bcome unobtanium for anything less than $470 used? Been checking for like 2 months now and they are impossible to find here. They barely outperform my 3060 Ti which can be had for $200 (down from $750) now for fucks sake.
Do they still make all-steel tank like cases like the old Antec cases from the mid 00s, or is everything glass/aluminium mesh garbage now?
>>107901058Considering NVIDIA just make a statement about 5070ti and 5060ti stock last week.... NO
>>107901061>can't run a shitty phone gamekwab
>>107897552>https://x.com/x86deadandback/status/2012127320832889248First 10c/20t BTL-S benchmark score leaked
>>107901059I don't even own any GPU from the 5000 series. I got myself a 4070 Super. Apparently that decision has gotten better and better with hindsight.
>>10790106816gb is just barely enough vram to actually start doing things with it, so it commands a high premium compared to 8gb landfill fodder.
>>107901085>lower single thread scoreall i need to see
>>107901080Steel? No if you don't want any glass you get aluminium flimsy shit sheet metal that's it
>>107901041thanks fella, i was concerned about the cable/pin adapter, but from what i've read, it'll be fine>>1079010534,500 burgers is a little too rich for my blood for a GPU at least. i think i'll be happy with this.
>>107901068They are used for local AI, same as the 3060 12gb. dont even look at the 4090 used prices, 3090 also really hold well but now days the fact that the 40 series has fp8 acceleration and most fp8 quants fit on 16gb of vram means the 4060 ti 16gb is unobtainble, at that price point you may as well get a 5060 ti 16gb so you get nfp4 for the even better quants, this is what really sets nvidia apart, if you know what card to buy and know how to sell them they rarely lose value
>>107901101something is not working right if a 5.5ghz raptorlake part loses to a 5.0ghz alderlake one
>>107901085i suspect it draws quite a bit more power to match the 14500 though, like maybe 15-20% more at least.. probably even above that.
>>107901112bartlett lake isn't raptor cove? Fukken dropped. No cache no buy.
>>107901111>fp8 and fp4 + quantizationUseless for /g/ users who do SDXL and whatnot no? Even still the 3090 is also now scarce and up in price after December/January shopping and panic.
>>107901125BTL-S is raptorcove. look at the L2 cache amount
>>107901081that was some desperate nvidia social media employee trying to save face when youtubers put out content smashing them
Intel Braptor Hog
>>107901081don't care what nvidia says. can't buy it its dead. they officially recognize it as EOL
>>107901134then why bring up alder lake hmmm
>>107898141if you don't have a permanent andrew tate in your brain yelling YOU*RE POOR! YOU'RE FUCKING BROKE! you haven't woken up yetwhen will you wake up?
>>107901096Once again KMSing over not returning the 3060 Ti two weeks after buying it in June.
>>107901143>they'll stop supporting a card that was bought out of existence to be used constantly in datacenters?
>>10790115414400/14500 has alderlake levels of cache
>>107901138>>107901143Dont be retarded. Even Nvidia realize this AI bubble not gonna last. If Huang actually do that he will be Luigi''d. 100% guaranteed
>5950X going up in price nowfuck
>>107901138or Hardwore unboxed once again lied like they did when they claimed rdna4 on it first week outsold blackwell total sales (2 months) several 5070 TI's SKU's got announced on CES, even asus rog division announced selling GB203 dies on their ROG mini -pc division, sure bigger AIB'S like Asus, Gigabyte and MSI may want to focus on products with better margins like the 5080, 5060 ti over the cheaper 16gb models but the smaller AIB'S that cant compete with them will 100% continue to sell the most popular SKU'S even if they get lower margins to get marketshare >>107901179You are literally responding to nicotroon spamming the thread because his mom did not buy him a 5070 ti
>>107901143As long as NVIDIA continues to order GB203 GPU production from TSMC, there will be defective dies to make 5070 Tis with.I doubt workstation demand for NVIDIA RTX PRO 4000 Blackwell is enough to use all those cut-down chips.
Nvidia are lying You better hope you boughted blackwellMLID said itif you want 12GB or higher you should have boughted alreadyit will NEVER be MSRP or lower ever again and the entire series is EOL except for the 5060
>>107901207tsmc yields are pretty high. id bet that many 5070tis could have been labelled and sold as low-binned 5080s instead but there wasnt even demand previously
You are hearing the news rightDespite Nvidia's lies they are killing all of it 5080, 5070, 5060 Ti all deadThis includes laptops too they are not releasing GPUs or VRAM for new laptops either except 5060 and 5050Blackwell is finished Nvidia already sold all they needed to anyway they had record breaking sales last year best sales ever in gaming
>>107901239>sold as low-binned 5080sThere's no segment for it, with around 15% stock performance gap between the existing 5070 Ti and the 5080.Higher-end 5070 Ti cards are also priced above $800~900 already.
>>107900910It was still all ATi developed.
>>107901279now we can't wait for 6090 in peace
new threat has been baked>>107901290>>107901290>>107901290
>>107901279Share the full link to this presentation pls.
>>107901323https://hardwareand.co/images/actus/nvidia/ces-2026-presentation-nvidia.pdf
>>107901291Nvidia have made inferior binned silicon before, e.g. 2080 non-A vs 2080 A-bin. And by bin, I mean voltage-frequency binning, not harvesting ""binning""
>>107901333>And by bin, I mean voltage-frequency binning,Not worth their time, NVIDIA has no trouble selling these GPUs.
>>107901350Already done by tsmc to find defects and program the die specific vf curve All Nvidia has to do is choose which dies get marked and sold as which SKU
>>107901389>All Nvidia has to doThey don't have to; these chips are selling just fine, and AIBs are overcharging 5080 GPUs just fine.
>>1079014255080s are still selling a good $300-500 more than the 5070ti so its still free money for nvidia/aibsanyway, time will tell whether the 5070ti lives on as a real product or ghost sku
>>107894974>post your builds to make poor indians madhttps://youtu.be/6YQgolEJNAQ
