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>>107901290>buy 5090>don't even playWhy did I even upgrade...
>>107901312Sell it away for 5k in 3 months time
Lowest priced 5090 on Newegg is now $4360 - For a refurbNvidia Founders Edition has gone from MSRP $2000 to $4500
today i started the 120mm transitioni can not believe this 40xx series card has the same fucking fans from the same OEM as my 12 year old gtx 970
should I sell my 5070 and get a Ti? Highly considering it right now.
>>107901327naked cooler of the windforce oc
>>107901334original holes are the perfect size for m3 threads
So Intel and Nvidia enter a partnership.Nvidia decides to stop releasing chips to AIBs for consumer grade GPUs.It announced this right before Intel releases Battlemage.The demand for low or midrange RTX 50 is then directed into Intel Arc right when Intel needs it the most.Nividia don’t care because AI boom orders are still backlogged
>>1079013261 oz of gold = nvidia flagship gpu for the last 20 yearsgpu's are NOT getting more expensiveyou're just getting poorerjust as plannedbanks wonjews woneveryone else lost
>>107901344these fans run 350 rpm at 30% (nvidias bottom limit) and 1200 at 100%prototype is inaudible below 50%when its up and running i will post temps
>>107901290PSU shround ruins this case, such an obvious retool.
>>107901351I didn’t lose because instead of buying shitty consumer goods I was buying land and stocks with fixed low interest loans
>>107901351>oz of gold = nvidia flagship gpu for the last 20 yearsWouldn't this be like 2 troy ounces of gold? Since when is gold $4000?
So my 10700k gets 100fps in warthunder but I’m expected to spend 1500 dollars on a 9800x3d to support AMD?
>>107901351Not true.
>>107901344Why do you need to void the warranty on this card, my Ventus zip tied just fine. Except the plastic tab on one of the fan headers broke off upon disconnection.
6850X3D anytime soon
>>107901365while you were getting low interest loans, jews were getting no interest loans. you still lost pending The Great Taking. thanks for playing and no crying in the casino afterwards.>>107901347surely just 2 more weeks until Intel breaks 1.01% market share yup yup
>>107901327>>107901334>>107901344>>107901360Very nice.
>>107901384doesnt really matter, you cannot get the oem shroud off without removing the cooler from the die, hence breaking the seal anyway.
stop posting those pedo pictures on my computer general, you fucking faggots
>>107901347The Intel & NVIDIA partnership is about selling data center GPUs with x86 CPUs, and making high-end mobile SoCs that don't have trash like RDNA3.x GPUs.It's not about dGPUs.Intel's basically shitting out the minimum required dGPUs until they can design more area-efficient & profitable ones (if they still care about this).
>>107901386>jews were getting no interest loansI’m sorry I can’t get upset about this because I’m basically set for life at this point and can retire on the passive income. And yes, I learned all of this from the Jews. Including not falling for the merchant’s tricks
>>107901329Lowest priced 5070TI is now higher than 5080 MSRP. Every model on pcpartpicker showing under $1000 is actually out of stock - Amazon lies and says "available soon". Anything in stock is over $1000. 5080 is also costing $1600 minimum rather than the $900 it cost last November.
>>107901327I hated those same fans which came with my gigabyte 1080ti gaming pcI promptly replaced the entire cooler with a 240mm aio using the kraken g12
>>107901427the card is just 220 watts. In normal loads with stock fans it hardly climbed over 60-65 degree.Now whats truly shit is the cooler being Direct heat pipe,
>>107901412yup me too i have 5 million dollars in my roth
>>107901347Tales of Hebephillia
>>107901312You'll be ready when the next goty drops
Ok, after spending 10 minutes solving the captchas i gotta askThe fuck can a person do to build a 'mid'-end pc now?32gb of ram cost 500 euros, a 5060ti16gb another 500 euros
this could be you
>>107901473you buy a prebuilt that's still priced reasonably, or go with used parts.
>>107901481couldnt be me desu
>>107901481reddit tier
>>107901481I have the same specs.But better monitor and other peripherals.
>>107901473it's easy once you realize the dollar has more than halved in value since 2020 and mid-range is around $1200-$1500 now instead of $600-$750. Oh, your wages didn't double in 5 years? Sucks to suck I guess.
>>107901481this is an incredibly boring and stupid life, videogames are boring after 25, the only games I derive any enjoyment are competitive ones (dota 2 mostly), I build PCs to overclock and undervolt them, to tune memory all the way to tertiary timings, that's what pc building is about
>finally register with ceneo and check the price history tracker>literally missed the boat on computer hardware upgrade season by the time of november and early december>CPUs/GPUs/coolers CRATERED around November when I was out of the loop>EVERYTHING has shot up in price since>getting sick was just the coup de graceFuck this gay ass fake economy. I knew everything was always cheapest in Q4 but fucking hell. Now I'm gonna be too old to wait another year.
>>107901420There's a 5070 Ti OC model for $830 where I live. Should I buy it? With the way everything is going I feel like this might be my last chance to get one for awhile.
>>107901504Pretty sure that's literally not how the math works. And not everyone lives in the USA.
>>107901481what is that screen that says bored of tech
mid-range builds kinda died off after we entered the era of hardware appreciating in value, and people finally collectively realizing you can use a top-end pc for about a decade now so there's no reason not to go all-out anymore. Low and mid-range pcs, as a concept, are a relic from an era where you MAYBE got a good 24 months out of your hardware before it became antiquated garbage, but often it was even less than that.There's literally no excuse to not get the top-end shit considering how long your investment will last, except for being a thirdie
>faggots are upgrading to 5070 Ti that are still slower than 4080You could have bought a 4080 for the *SAME* price a 5070 Ti is right now years ago...
>>107901522You should probably use the money to buy a gun or something because most of the developed world is preparing to deport their migrants/refugees and don’t think those savages won’t riot, loot, and rape on their way out.
>>107901524lol man they seem to figure out new ways to get you FOMO fags every year.You are like someone preparing to pay $2000 for a scalped RTX 3090 in 2021
>>107901551i could have mating pressed a bitch like this too but the us killed human genetic engineering/cloning and china is keeping it all to themselves. Shit happens. Waitfags always lose.
>>107901473>The fuck can a person do to build a 'mid'-end pc now?buy a friend's old pc parts who is willing to sell them for non jewish prices.
>>107901522>I was out of the loopYou didn't knowimagine the waitfags in here refusing to accept when people ITT were screaming at them to buyNow all they do is post about the economy too
>>107901524Well yeah you're not gonna find it cheaper than $1000 for the rest of the year as nvidia cuts all supply and the 5070TI is way stronger than the 5070
>>107901522Sounds like a lazy retard coping, holiday sales are annually scheduled.
>>107901569i was waitfagging because my PC was still playing games fine (rtx 3070), and originally thinking I'd upgrade in a year or so.i saw the writing on the wall, and in december finally decided i didn't want to get stuck with 16gb of ram and 8gb of vram for the next 3+ years, so I upgraded before shit really hit the fan. I'm glad I did, but I should have boughted even earlier in early november, I was already aware of the trend.
>>107901569Even still I early December was still early enough to act on impending supply shortages. But this makes me feel somewhat less upset knowing I was already too late even then as I was figuring out what I had missed over an entire year.>>107901591I was sick and in the hospital, try doing banking and driving when you're bedridden for weeks.
Sun is shinin' in the sky
>>107901591Yeah we sure saw a lot of those ram black friday sales and all the morons that waited for those "holiday sales" instead of buying ASAP beforehand definitely aren't still seething about it by claiming it's all a fake shortage
>>107901351Fun thing. I remember being at the CC&V Gold Mine in 2006, last big commercial one in America when gold hit ~$600/oz in 2006, up from $300 at the lowest early 2000's. They were dancing in the street and the tourist mines were starting to mine the placers for gold teluride at night. This shit today makes me want to go down to the slab and pan for flour gold near the house. Boy, I wish I wasn't a broke college student back then.
There ain't a cloud in sight
>>107901602>Even still I early December was still early enough to act on impending supply shortages.You still had time. You said it yourself. At least you're alive to feel sorry for yourself.
>>107901551something about hindsight
PC building is a massive supply chain with thousands of companies and millions of employee, if you think it's going to suddenly disappear because jeff bezos, jensen and elon cuck got together and decided they own the world you're a complete moron.the AI bubble is a great opportunity for regions outside asia to raise a new supply chain branch for semicondutors, dram, nand, cpus, etc and I believe it'll happen very soon, china can do it alone and europe can work with latam and do the same.things will be back to normal in 2 years, and after that they'll be much better.
It's stopped rainin', everybody's in the play
I’m so glad I made this little impulse purchase last spring to max out the memory in my laptop
>>107901481I never turn on FPS count when playing video games. That shit distracting
And don't you know
It's a beautiful new day? Hey
>>107901561Tell me waitfag, what's your rig?
>>107901630the supply chain for cutting edge silicon begins and ends with ASML and that's that. Nobody else is going to compete for anything except selling already antiquated garbage to third-worlders.
stop posting, no one cares
>>107901619Some people just don't keep up with hardware news.RAM prices during the last holiday weren't catastrophic, especially with CPU & motherboard bundles (I don't give a shit about others' local pricing & product bundling situation).They were basically at the level of early DDR5 adopter prices. It sucks, but the discounts on other parts made it possible for people to complete their PCs before GPUs prices started to rise.
>>107901662See >>107901659
>>107901660nobody uses cutting edge silicon for flash memory, that would be a complete waste of money
>>1079015515070ti is cheaper than 4080 and has better features. Same speed as 4080 as well, sometimes better. Even 5070ti is reaching 5080 perf per dollar
How do I get the courage to start putting together my PC? I dread messing up and the anxiety is killing me.Start taking shots before I put together?
>>107901659EVGA Z690 ClassifiedIntel Core i9 12900K128GB DDR5 5600SLI 2X: EVGA RTX 3090ti FTW Ultra
>>107901677they do for cpu's o algo as u have mentioned.there's no solution for gpu prices as long as consumer is competing with datacenter for the same wafers, expect nvidia to go back to 5nm or even samsung 7nm for next gen consumer gpus.
>>107901699put the square block in the square hole
>>107901660asml is european and europe has many small research focused companies that already have the technology to build GAA 2nm and less semicondutors, they don't manufacture it because the investment required is massive but with the AI bubble the prices are so high that now became worthwhile to do it, specially together with latam who have enough rare earths to kick in the production.you'll see those plants those plants coming up in the near future, I wouldn't be surprised to see europe going all in on semicondutors and chip design and latam going into dram and nand over the next few years.
>>107901709>waitfag is also a pedocolor me surprised
>>107901709Holy basedThat build will save you money on heating in the winter.
>>107901692>5070ti is cheaper than 4080 and has better features.4080 was 800 - 900 bucks quite often. The 5070 Ti costs even more now. Don't forget the 4080 is over 3 years old too. You could have had the same performance you get now from your 5070 Ti for the same prices YEARS ago. The 4080 is still faster by a slight margin and the ONLY feature 5070 Ti has over 4080 is 4x FG, but who in their right mind uses FG? Even 2x has horrible latency making it uselss.
>>107901699You need to test whether the parts you bought are working.It's much easier to get a refund/replacement on defective components through the retailer's product return period compared to the manufacturer's RMA.You're living in the easiest time to learn how to properly build a PC as well.
tf going on in this thread
>>107901733Not my problem. I bought 5070ti at MSRP
>>107901733>You could have had the same performance you get now from your 5070 Ti for the same prices YEARS ago.hindsight is 20/20
>>107901733>The 5070 Ti costs even more now.It was $699 last month 4080 never dropped that low even once not even used
is this the thread
>>107901745>It was $699 last month 4080 never dropped that low even once not even usedI could buy a 4080 Super for precisely that much in my eastern European shithole for precisely that much even 2 months ago. The 4080 was a better deal along with the 4070 Ti Super for a while compared to the 5070 Ti precisely because they were 200-250 dollars cheaper used.
Gentlemen, I just wanted to say thanks for still being here. You were here when I made my OG bench box in 2013 and you continue to have good advice. Last time I was here was to get a dual-DVI Qnix QX2710LED 2k for my 1080ti when that was the hot thing.I've been needing to do a full build for a bit. 1080ti Seahawk is starting to crap out on me. I'm literally posting from integrated graphics on my quaternary 1080p OLED. My old high end DDR3 has been replaced twice as it gave out. My old EVGA Supernova PSU chewed itself apart. Not even getting into regular swaps like drives.But, today, even on the backend of the AI fuckcenter hikes, I got a PNY 5070ti for MSRP, 32 Gb of the last Crucial 6400 mhz, MSI A5 B850 Tomahawk motherboard, Ryzen 9800X3D, with a new 4K KTC M27P6 monitor for less than $2500 Freedombucks. Being able to reuse my PSU, cooler, case and fans and drives basically was the different in the price hikes. Would be nice to have more than 32Gb ram, but I still remember the Taiwan fires and the early DDR4 fuckery that kept me on DDR3 back then. I'll take the blessings I can get.Thanks again /g/entlemen.
>buying used hardwareI hope you like sperm
>>107901748Yes
Notice how ever since the 40 series launched there has been zero generational improvement in the categories of performance per dollar, every subsequent GPU released is immediately priced as if it was the same generation just within a more powerful segment. And they all seem to fit in to the pricing structure outlined by the relative performance chart on techpowerup.
>>107901769upgrade the PSU.
>>107901723Intel cancelled its fabs in Central Europe so lol good luck with that.
>>10790177940 series sold like pure ass
>>107901769>Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.>Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal.>We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend
>>107901786I got a 1000W Supernova. I should be good.
>>107901733hold up bro. let me go rig up my time machine so I can go back in time and steal the 4080 you were going to buy.
>nvidia said they are cutting production by 30-40%>you have reddit and linusfag rushing to their defense when HWUnboxed saved few souls and let them buy reasonably priced cards that were left last minutebunch of cocksuckers
>>107901658>>107901643>>107901632ach kurwa.I want X3D so bad but unless AMD re releases no chance of getting it and even then it would be $999 and scalpedor release mobo with DDR4 support but AM5
>>107901793shouldn't use a PSU for 10+ years
>>107901808It's like 4 years old? The OG gave out in like 2021 during the lockdowns. 3 8-pins from the PSU to just the fucking graphics card was a bit of a shock, though.
>>107901763I'm not even talking used.
>>107901808It's fine as long as the PSU wasn't constantly drawing near maximum rated power load.
>>107901763I'm not even talking used, my 4080S was 850 bucks new in 2024.
>>107901825well, you didn't say you replaced it
>>107901798I have a 5090 though. Sold my 4090 last Spring already, bought two used 3090s for AI.
>copper going upWhat's a good PSU for a 9800x3d and 5070ti system? Who do I check out for reviews on them?
>>107901779>>10790179030 to 40 was the last huge jump
>>107901851>My old EVGA Supernova PSU chewed itself apart.Anon, I know I TLDR'd that post but...
>>107901860its been rising for weeks dude.
>>107901870If it was so huge why did nobody buy it? Only the 4090 was worth it. 40 series just made the 4090 unskippable. Everything else was a total flop.
>>107901736>>107901736Thanks anon. I guess I need to exercise to wear off that anxiety. Going to do that, cook something, and clear out a space on the table and force myself opening the boxes. Might as well watch some more how to for my specific parts as well.Thanks, the amount of doomposting on 4chan is getting to my head. I should really stop coming here until I finish my build or run into issues or start doing memtest/bios stuff
>>107901911So I hear. So I'd like to know of a PSU to buy asap!
>>107901912No idea, I'm just looking at benchmarks. 4090 was almost double the performance of 3090 and even the 4080 was faster than the 3090. The 20 to 30 and 40 to 50 jumps were nowhere as huge.
>>107901860Historically, the high end Seasonics and EVGA have been good for a long time.
>>107901914You sound like the most pathetic faggot alive right now.
>>107901807Time to buy X3D was before Christmas of last year.>>107901932>and even the 4080 was faster than the 3090.The 4070 Ti was faster than a 3090. It was normal for the xx70 card of every gen to beat the last gen flagship for years. 50 series broke all the trends.
>>107901945wdym bro? the 5070 beat the 4090
>>107901872fuck now I am scared for my EVGA psu that goes for its 12th year
>>107901945>The 4070 Ti was faster than a 3090. It was normal for the xx70 card of every gen to beat the last gen flagship for years. 50 series broke all the trends.I literally just said that in: >>107901870>30 to 40 was the last huge jump
>>1079019605070 Ti can't even beat a non-SUPER 4080
>tfw can outfit my case with 5 140mm fansfeelsgoodman>tfw looking at the price of 140mm pwm fans to replace my 120mm dc fansfeelsbadman
>>107901970jensen huang said the 5070 beats the 4090 so it must be true. jensen huang owns a multi-trillion dollar company and has a great sense of fashion. What do you own/wear? I thought so.
>>107901914I'll tell you the same thing I say about mechanical work of any kind. Don't be afraid to lay your hands on it. Most worries are overblown. I blew four years of dust out of my old case today. Did I give a fuck about air moisture worryworts in compressors or destroying fan bearings? No, because I am not a retard, and I can wait for everything to be clean and dry, plus not overexert the bearings on moving parts.Confidence comes from doing, and confidence with force comes from knowing when something will bend and not break.
>>107901970Meanwhile the 5060 Ti still can't beat a 4070 or a 3080 lol
>>107901971you don't need pwm fans, just set them at %40 on the bios and forget
>>107901977>Did I give a fuck about air moisture worryworts in compressors or destroying fan bearings?the real danger is generating an electric charge that feeds back into your computer. If you unplugged all your fans the risk is nil
>>107901970That’s because with the RTX 50 series you are supposed to enable frame gen. Once you do that, it curb stomps everything
>>107901962The way it died wasn't bad. It was just the entire PC would crash when you drew too much power. For me, it was IIRC when Elden Ring came out and the power draw to the GPU would shut down the whole system. That's when I knew it was fucked. Any time it needed more than basic idle and youtube, it would hard restart. That was how I knew it was dying.
>>107901992Well yeah. It's literal hardware on the card.
>>107902001psus degrade over time and fail to meet the capacities they once did. This is part of why quality psu's overprovision on capacity and a brand new 1000 watt unit can often sustain something like a steady 1200-1300 watt load. So that when it degrades, it takes a long time for it to fall below being able to do 1000.
>>107901986Yep, this is basic maintenance procedure.
thanks hwunboxed
>>107901860>>107901926https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplieshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+SuppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/If you're in the US, I would consider:be quiet! Pure Power 13 MCorsair RM1000x (2024)Super Flower LEADEX VII XG 1000 W Fractal Design Ion 3 Gold 1000 W (built by SeaSonic)You don't need a 1000W PSU, but you can carry it over to the next build with a higher GPU power draw (10-year warranty).This SeaSonic Vertex 1000W is discounted to $160 @ Woot (manufacturer warranty honored by SeaSonic apparently since it's fulfilled by Amazon).But it has the older 12VHPWR connector that is less safe than the 12V-2x6 connector.https://computers.woot.com/offers/seasonic-electronics-vertex-gx-1000-psu-2I don't recommend this PSU if you're going to use a relatively small/tight case, that old connector needs a decent amount of straight clearance (at least 30~35mm) before you bend it.https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/evolving-standards-12vhpwr-and-12v-2x6/
>>107902017yeah thats why always buy +200w for what I need
>>107901719>as long as consumer is competing with datacenter for the same waferscant 4chan destroy the image of openAI/chatGPT but pulling out the news of Samuel Altman graping his sister when she was a child? It's was a bbc article long ago
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jtfsb2
>>107902035wasnt there this blog by some psu autist?
>>107902044dont see why this would matter, all our leaders fuck kids and nothing ever happens, openai is a branch of the government now so they receive infinite tax dollars. the peasants don't matter.
Is this a good RAM cooler?
>>107902067all ram heatsinks just trap heat, you need a fan pointed on them to actually cool ram well.
I'm not buying 64gb ram for 800€ that were 100€ beforethe humiliation has no bounds
nvidia liedgamers cried but will still defend them
Crazy to think my 12 year old Sapphire 290X has a thicker and stiffer PCB than any xx90 or xx900 GPU shipped thus far, with a proper mounting plate to reinforce it and prevent sag. GPU design really isn't what it once was.
>>107902067>RGB unit
>>107901937I'll look into them. The one I have is ADATA but I don't think they make PSUs anymore.>>107902035Lots of good info here, thanks niggy!>I don't recommend this PSU if you're going to use a relatively small/tight case, that old connector needs a decent amount of straight clearance (at least 30~35mm) before you bend it.I forgot sometimes you gotta make sure things all fit in together, but I'm going for a mid tower so I should be fine.
>>107902077i vertically mounted my 5080 so it doesn't really matter hehebut i agree
>>107901932>40 to 50 jumpthey just added an extra number in their mid range and priced it accordingly
>>107902035Didn't some workstation GPUs used to use EPS 12V for power?
>>107902066
>>107902060Maybe you're talking about Johnny Guru's blog post, he's Corsair's PSU product director.http://jongerow.com/12VHPWR/index.htmlhttp://jongerow.com/12V-2x6/index.html
>>107902108our only purpose was to toil to the end of our days and furnish our masters with a fresh supply of slaves. We're doing a pretty bad job of the former and a really, really bad job of the latter. They're putting all their chips on AI in desperation because young people can't prop up their infinite boomer retirement ponzi anymore.Good thing AI will fail to meet all expectations.
>>107902088>The one I have is ADATA but I don't think they make PSUs anymore.ADATA sells PC PSU using their XPG brand.The XPG Core Reactor II is decent (built by reputable OEM CWT), but it uses the less safe 12VHPWR connector.
>>107901992Yeah except no self respectable gamer uses FG.>bro I heard you like gaming>here's your 80ms system latency (compared to 40ms no FG)
FYI Laurie would do more, create more, and earn more with a GPU than any of you ever will. She also wouldn’t pay for it. Her reputation would get her anything she wants from Jenson, Lisa Su, The CEO of her company, or the governor of her state.You just want to play Bing Bing wahoo and you are bitching because it costs more than you earn
Worth it?
>>107902035My Seasonic came with cables for the newer one!
>>107902108you know who to blame, right? yeah, it's obamabecause he bailed out the banks 2008 they are right there complacent with this obvious scam because if they make money they make money and if everything blows up, they'll get bailed out again, that's why the s&p is at 7000 while the economy goes to shit and buying groceries gets harder every week
>>107901977Thanks again anon. I just will muster up and open the windows and take a walk sit down and do the basics right after that. Mobo, CPU, RAM, CPU cooler, then drop in case and wire up PSU and hope it turns on first boot.
>>107902165the avg consumer is retarded. they only know higher number is better.
>>107902171Every single cable fire involves one of these devices. So no.
>>107902035>take away 1.5mm>give back 0.25mmFUCKING JEWS
>>107902174The issue isn't the cable; it's the less safe 12VHPWR power socket installed in those ATX 3.0 Vertex PSUs.
>>107902183I can’t wait for your posts to tell us about how bad you fucked up your expensive hardware, how you can’t get your money back, and how you are so depressed you want to an hero.
>>107902186>higher fps AND higher latency? Hell yeah bro!
>>107902171the only device like this I'd get would be the wireview pro 2 for the ampere display but even there your connector can burn as you cannot tell how good the connection between your wireview and the GPU is unless you have an astral.
>>107902154>XPG Core Reactor IIThis might be the one I have. Minus the "II". It was kinda pricey, but this was at the end of 2020. I'll have to look for ones with these more safe connectors though.
>>107902067microchips dump their heat into the pcb, you need to coolr the pcb. the thermal goop on resin package like the mosfets on gpus is a band aid
>>107902074Only a poorfag problem.
>>107902169I didn't pay for my GPU either and I didn't even have to look like a cute girl for it. My NEETbux paid for it.
>>107902074>nvidia exits the goymer market>developers forced to optimize for ayymd>mfw fine wine
>spend all night troubleshooting my sound bar disconnecting audio and lagging when videos play>have to get new hdmi cable and repair the subwoofer + surround 5 times for it to finally workfuckin hell
>>107901914You should quit being a pussy and build it, because if something is wrong with it, you'll find out sooner than later when your warranty is almost over.
>>107902200Mine is ATX 3.1.
>>107902237I can see this happening as Nvidia has had developers make sure their games work for Nvidia GPUs. Kind of like how Google made websites work for Chrome and that's why Google owns the internet now.
>>107902186But I'm not the average retard, I'm an advanced retard.
>>107902237Get a gpu on the top of a steam hardware first, Rajesh.
>>107902165The latency feels no worse than the latency you feel when vsync is enabled. Chill out.
>>107902246Yep. You're right. My procrastination will be the end of me or I just become a prebuilt fag and give up gaming. I had COVID for a week and work rugpulled me, so coming back to a dark home every night just sapped any motivation.Just gotta do it. Will report back later.
>>107902183It's fine, bro. Just make sure you ground yourself before touching expensive parts. It is winter and dry after all.
Going from a 3070 to a 5070 I got at msrp. Was this a good deal or nah. I play on 1440p.
>>107902276yeh if ur going to use dlss and frame gen its worth it
>>107902237>fine wineAMD dropped support for rdna 2 already lol
>>1079022765070 is fine for 1440p, even if you dont use dlss or framegen it's an appreciable uplift. Enormous uplift for stable diffusion image gen as well if you're into that blackwell is really strong.
>>107902281Yeah was planning to do that if I replay cyberpunk. I played it whole way through on my 3070 with dlss + amd frame gen. and I don't play Black myth wukong etc. I'm mainly playing FFXIV, modded Skyrim, arc raiders.>>107902292Cool. Was originally gonna get a ti variant but I don't see the point + couldn't see any for Msrp anywhere around me in person and online.
>>107902276nope. shoulda got a 4080 when it was cheaper than a 5070 ti new. oh, and also better.
These Radeon retards are acting as if GDDR6 supplies aren't going to be constrained.AMD's already charging more for the RX 9000 GPU & memory BOM and informed board partners to prepare for further price increases throughout this year.https://www.techpowerup.com/344063/sk-hynix-forecasts-tight-memory-supply-lasting-through-2028https://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-expected-to-raise-gpu-prices-as-dram-costs-surge-across-the-industry/Radeon's also competing against NVIDIA (3060), Sony, & Microsoft for GDDR6 chip supplies.
>>107902326This, thankfully you can always get a 9070 XT which is even faster than aa 4080 and 5070 TI together if you game on linux and only cost $650
>>107902326The 4080 was 550usd recently?
>>107902338actually yea. i saw a listing on facebook. you've could've picked it up anon.
>107902337nicotroon is still here laugh at this friendless virgin
I think my problem with upgrading from a 3070 is precisely because I don't have any use for DLSS or framegen because no game I play use it and I do things other than games.
>>107902348>you've could'veokay im killing myself
>>107902348Eh I'm chilling, 5070 got 3x and 4x frame gen
>>107902355The whole point of DLSS and Frame gen is so your GPU lasts longer.
>>107902367DLSS 4.5 also runs better on 50 series to keep in mind anon
>>107902336gddr5 is coming back
AMD just can't wait to be able to charge $800 for the 9070 XT like they originally intended to.Pic is the current price for the cheapest 9070 XT you can get online in the US.
Real talk, does running all my displays through my 3070/old 1080 and having my 5070 in the main slot affect performance at all? Or is that just bs >>107902375Oh that's really cool actually. I need to try out new dlss features.
>>107902391story of your life
>>107902409You keep those trash meme images, that's your life.
>>107902381>>107902336If GDDR6 is this bad then imagine GDDR7. Nvidia literally have to EOL RTX vs AMD just rising prices.
>>107902393you probably dont have enough lanes to run them both at 16x unless you have arrow lake, and even then your m.2 ssds will make things even worse. AMD mainstream platform and previous gen intel platforms just aren't designed to support multi-gpu setups.
>>107901290my dad was asking me about cost to build a pc for music production/recording he doesnt want to spend loads i told him a current build with amd apu etc he said it was too much. so thinking maybe a chink xeon kit + 1tb nvme + case + some gpu for a rough total of like £350 would that be fine i literally have no idea whats needed for music stuff. or would like some old i7 thinkcentre be fine???
>>107902412least im the one having fun
>>107902414>If GDDR6 is this bad then imagine GDDR7Literally uncontested supply to NVIDIA because no one else can match their favorable supply deals.You are out of your depth. Sony can outmuscle Radeon's GDDR6 chip supply orders, and they can arrange longer supply terms at lower chip prices.Radeon developed Infinity Cache because it's cheaper to sell larger GPUs than compete against faster memory supplies vs. NVIDIA.
>>1079013731oz of gold is currently $4,597.45, inflation is far worse than the governments would let you believe
>>107902429Find prebuilts NOW. Last night some anon found really good Refurb (aka touched once and returned) and open box prebuilts from ACER / HP on eBay (direct from those 2 manufacturers)Get it nao
>>107902431I don't own a Radeon card; you are the loser.You're even seeing some 9070 XT owners switch to a 5080 because they don't want to own a Radeon card for the next 3~4 years.
>>107902467well from his reaction i think he doesnt wanna spend more than like 400 and i think he needs 32gb ram i didnt see any ddr5 prebuilts at that price thats why i thought of a xeon kit since they use ddr4
>>107902235You paid for it. Because you could’ve used that money on something more worthwhile like a Thai ladyboy prostitute
>>107902471See, we can agree that the 9070xt is dogshit and that NVIDIA won this generation once again. I'm just pulling your leg
>>107902452>Radeon developed Infinity Cache because it's cheaper to sell larger GPUs than compete against faster memory supplies vs. NVIDIA.Oddly enough, the 5080 still has more SRAM on the gpu core than the 9070 xt does...
I cant afford a PCAnd its YOUR fault. I cant even get 120fps in CS2. I can't even play esports with a ryzen 2600 I've been using forever.None of you deserve gaming PC's.
>>107901373Since late last yearhttps://www.apmex.com/gold-price
>dlss4.5 performance looks better than fsr nativehow do nicotrannies sleep at night knowing this information
I buy Nvidia cuz there cards look cool and my mom got me a 1080 for Christmas when I was 16 when I asked for a 1070
>>107902391I think they finally admitted defeat, at this point all they do is do datacenter deals that dont even invole the MI instinct 450 which comes this year but the one that is coming 2029 to infltae both companies stock price, last quarterly report they got assets held for sale (old shit that no one wants) taking over 3990m i i expect this number to grow even further this quarterly report
>>107902514>>107902503>>107902499>>107902471Yeah but Nvidia drivers & connector melt and die using Linux Windows freebsd
>>107902466Wtf? It was like 2000 just two years ago.
>>107902074You could always just....not buy nvidia of course with 90% marketshare asking PC playes to do that is like asking them to cut off their own hands
>>107902529>driversbetter support for older gpus like 20 series than radeon did for rdna2 even if jensen is high on the AI gas and having the AI write the driver code>connector meltfake news for 50 series>linuxyou're a faggot moron if you don't know how to get a nvidia card to work on troonix
>buy new pc>its 3x bigger than my 2000's compaq with xpwtf happened
>>107902541You sound like an Appleretard.
>>107902506I don’t build a gaming PC. I built a stable diffusion rig so I can generate legal CeePee to look at when I stroke my PeePee
>>107902529True.
>>107902550base
>>107902547Wow. Look at me. I speak like a faggot loser who doesn't have anything to say about my argument. Look at me guys, I bought AMD!
>>107902541this problem is not getting the drivers working on linux. it's the support and experience of using nvidia on linux. shit frame times, shit vrr, shit hdr, bugs, artifacts and much more.
>>107901290>Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)How out of date is this shit?
Do I need anything special from going to 3070 to 5070 FE? Does the 12v adapter come with gpu or do I need to buy one separately?
>>107902503Infinity Cache is a higher-level cache than the ones on GeForce GPUs, they serve different purposes.Infinity Cache amplifies effective memory bandwidth to make up for the slower GDDR6 speeds.NVIDIA's larger lower-level cache is mostly designed for low-latency RT & AI computation.
>>107902565copy+pasto
>>107902579Yeah figures, I can't find a 3080 Ti less a 3080 for less than $500 nowadays.
>>107902570the adapter comes with the boxat least I think it doeson second thought I have no clue if I ever had one and if I did I do not remember where it isit's probably in the boxmaybe
is water cooling actually silent? Im trying to play vr gaymes
>>107902597it's not silent but your pc will be cooler therefore the fans will run less fast and be quieter
>>107902267>no worseV-Sync is fucking awful. Also it is worse too.
>>107902576well, every sram cell fundamentally is there to reduce reliance on dram and its limited latency/bandwidth. So any difference in purpose beyond that is pedantry. If Radeon is really more memory constrained, it should have more cache than Nvidia's cards. The real flaw in my comparison is assuming these things are comparable across different architectures that have different bottlenecks.
>>107902495I have free access to genuine trap bussy.
How much does new CPU's make for gayming? I got an i7-11700KF overlocked 5.0ghz. Like what does the new fancy AMD CPU's and intel ones offer that would be noticeable? And... when is it ever "worth" upgrading a cpu now past 10th gen intel and amd equivalent?
>>107902622it feels the same. fuck off retarded dalit shill do not redeem saar.
>>1079026544790k is still enough to get 60 fps in almost every game and doesn't drop below 30 in hardly any so it isn't really necessary to upgrade if you're on rocket lake. What you can expect is a better experience on high refresh rate monitors.
>>107902165That's why I bought the 5070 though. I've been playing games with 3070 and a 1080 using LSFG and it feels really nice when you get the settings right. I want to crank the graphics setting to max now and get the same smoothness
>>107902654Barely noticeable. 11th gen wasn’t great but it sure beats Raptor Lake and newer that will degrade in months instead of decades. Also, AMDs glued together CPUs still suffer from AMD’s stutters and frame time inconsistency that you don’t see with any intel cpus
>>107902414 Nvidia is the only using GDDR7, that has some issues like increased cost, but it also has serious advantages because they dont habe to compete for against apple and mobile devices corporations for DDR6 like AMD does so basically as long as the margins are good enough Nvidia will be allowed to secure dram the issue is that its not easy to increase capcitiy so they are in a different issue compared to Aymd and other companies were they have trouble with lower margins products rather than securing the ram itself
>>107902691>Raptor Lake and newer that will degrade in months instead of decades.this is false btw
pretty much any mid-range to high end PC since 2020 is futureproofed for most people until the next generation comes and you get another chance to upgrade your PC.
>>107902695>>107902452Nvidia isn't the only company using GDDR7 or HBM in the semiconductor industry. You guys sound underaged as fuck.
Wait for arrow lake refresh or is the 265k pricing gonna be hard to beat given the way the world is moving?
>>107902716cuz theyre NEETs they dont have jobs or understand how outside works
>>107902684Again name one graphics card manufacturer, mobile manufacturer, or chip electronic that uses DDR7, Apple uses LPDDR6, Samsung uses LPDDR5X.Do you honestly think AMD that has to compete for DRAM wafers against Apple, Samsung and the mobile device industry is in a better spot than nvidia?
>>107902716>>107902741NVIDIA is the one that gets the most favorable GDDR7 & HBM supply deals because of their sheer order volume.AMD Radeon might even let Sony get more GDDR6 chip orders at the expense of their dGPU business because Sony is AMD gaming division’s largest customer.
>>107901380It's not inflation, it's price gouging. I hate all these imbeciles shouting "muh inflation" after 2020 when people were already using it as an excuse for Turing price hikes in 2018.
>>107902782>It's not inflation, it's price gougingyou're a dim commie.
>PC status building status?>Go Sleep
>>107902808Let's be happy we still have a status. Not for long.
>my forever card is a 5060Ti 16T-this is going to last me until 2028 when the market recovers r-right?
>>107902801It wasn't true 7 years ago, it isn't true today.https://youtu.be/WYTPgDvLkmY
>>107902764Ah I'm not the person you were originally responding to sorry. Idk anything about the manufacturing background of the different companies currently. I just like Nvidia's gpu's more.
>>107902832Cloud gaming is DOA because it can't do multiplayer
>>107902841>10 years of braindead 0% interest rates followed by literally doubling the amount of money in circulation>no inflationyeah you need to kill yourself immediately
>>107902832to play AAA slop renting a 5090 Ti on the cloud seems better than buying it unironicallynot having any local comp seems retarded thoughfine for slop though
>he bought amd
I'm so glad I bought the 9070 xt before the hardware winter of 2026~2028, I felt guilty for a while because I planned to get the 9060 xt was was spending too much, but now I know this was the right call
>>107902837Yeah, without a problem. You might have to plat GTA6 on Medium but it should be fine.
>>107902873You are replying to nicotroon, he constantly spams the same posts and he constantly spergs about blackwell gpus
>>107902864>nicotroon when he opens his christmas present and the $700 gpu his parents scraped together their money to make him happy with has a red sticker on it instead of a green one.jpg
>>107902837you made it but don't expect to play 4k at all or 1440p for much longer when PS6 comes out
i'm so fucking glad i bought a 5070ti and 64gb of ram last year i didn't expect shit to hit the fan that quick. i still find it bewildering that my PC increased in value since building it
/g/aylords, will CPU prices rise any time soon? I accidentally bought a 9600X and am itching to sell it.
>>107902669>same latency as v-sync>but the frame fake toohow is it not worse?
>>107902684>LSFGBait.
>>107902958>/g/aylords, will CPU prices rise any time soon?They might, but not for the 9600X. There's plenty of leftover inventory of these CPUs.Intel and AMD might make fewer CPUs if DRAM prices continue to rise and lower demand for new PCs.
>>107902925driver issues gpu
>>107902972I'm being deadass though, I took it out atm due to thermals when it's right underneath the 3070.
>>107903074fr fr?
I have a PC I'm giving to my sister's kids.I have two options for a GPU to put in it.3060 12GB or 1080Ti.I think the 1080Ti is better in raw raster performance. But the 3060 has DLSS, Frame Gen and more VRAM.
>>107902737Please respond
>>107903090they are virtually identical in raster <5% difference but the 3060 yes has more vram and better feature support and more efficient and won't die as quick it's a nobrainer
Pop the AI bubble https://youtu.be/R-P6Kl5zuts
>>107903090Get the 3060 for the continued driver support.1080 Ti's raw performance isn't significantly better.
>>1079030903060 is easily better for modern gamingbut chances are if they're actually kids they'll just play roblox
>>107903106You can probably tune a 265K to match the refreshed chip's stock performance.If you can't get a 265K at a good discount, you might as well wait for the refresh chip.The refreshed 270K or whatever might cost $450ish.9800X3D would be my choice for gaming.
and now i have to wait days for the fan adapter to get shippedwhy did these cretins put on a mini 4 pin
