Everything is already from China, but here we discuss the cheap chink shit you see on various sites.1st rule of /csg/: If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.Useful links>TWS IEM reviews: www.scarbir.com/>Guide: csg-guide.neocities.org/>Wiki: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Chink_Shit_General>What headphones/earbuds should I buy?>>>/g/iemg>I want a cheap smartphone what should I buy?>>>/g/spg/>I want to buy some sort of emulation device>>>/vr/hhg/>NewsMaybe laterPrevious thread:>>107879375Thread before previous:>>107831469
my chinese stuff is still stuck at airport transitand 2-3 items got returned to the sellerat least I received some items already but oh my god
import customs clearance started means it's in my country, right?
>>107928866think so unless it goes through a middle country somehowbut that would be "international waters" would it not kind of like you are not in the country until you leave the airport area
The chinks truly are living in the future.
>>107928606>News>Maybe later
>>107928866Yes
>When I tried to log into AliExpress by clicking on the sign in button, it gave me the registration form even though an account already exists under the supplied email address. The only way to sign in is to click back and then try again or switch to the mobile view.looks like th niggas at tdwtf take more than a year to publish shit
Has anyone in here bought any of those handheld sewing machines? I'm looking for something that can handle flannel and some random thin fabrics for making curtains and tablecloths
>>107930241the site is so unbelievably bloated and fucked and I was thinking about it during my last purchasefor such a big money printer you'd think they'd hire someone with more skill than a 6 year old to make it not shitthe games on mobile are also just so laggy and painful I can't be bothered
>>107930342I've never seen a large site like this constantly falling back to times new roman (or whatever the browser's default font is) on random pages
>>107931344>>107930241I miss when websites were designed for computers
>>107931748as opposed to websites being designed for salt shakers
>150 dBsomehow I doubt that
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Following items arrived:-MECHANIC PCB cleaning fluid-Leaded solder paste, with RoHS mark-GD-2 thermal paste
>>107932005just a little more anonyour shiny new thing will be with you soon, stay strong!!
>>107932561>-Leaded solder paste, with RoHS marklol
>>107932711one of my orders is 14 items with the same tracking numberso if they dont get delivered and end up returned it will be really tedious to wrangle the refunds
>>107932901environmental welding >>107926002
>>107932561>-MECHANIC PCB cleaning fluidwhat. why. Did you buy ultrasonic cleaner fluid for some unexplained reason?
>>107932561>Leaded solder pasteplease tell me you're not the anon that was looking to learn to solder.
>>107933448I bought it to clean flux off from boards, at least I hope it's correct stuff.>>107933485Nope, I am that Superbuy one.
>>107933521i was curious what that PCB cleaning fluid actually was and uhh... i think you bought the wrong product.i don't even know what this is for, you can just buy rubbing alcohol for cheap at a local pharmacy or something instead if you just wanted to clean flux.as for the guy commenting on you buying solder paste, that stuff is mostly used for ball grid array surface mount chip repair. there's nothing stopping you from using it to just repair a regular connection with it but you could have just bought a cheap spool of wire to do it instead since solder paste is way more expensive than wire. you can just put a glob of it on a connection and touch your iron to it.
>>107933485what's wrong with that?
>>107933674i wonder what exactly that snake oil is? it would be neat if it was trichloroethylene as that shit has gotten way too hard to get as a civilian and my estate sale stash is running out
>>107933674I do have rubbing alcohol, but this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqofdpe744 video is main reason why I bought separate cleaning fluid + better to stock up before EU fucks up regular Aliexpress buying.It just gets confusing because title and feedback tells it to be good for flux cleaning.
Should I buy an android TV box from AE? Which one?
I know it's a horrible time to build a PC right now but the chinks have been selling mobos with a 7845HX tacked on for a while now, which is basically just a soldered 7900X. It's like $250 I think, anyone here have one?
>>107935776never heard of it but if it's actually a 7900X in performance that's a pretty good deal.that motherboard looks like they cut every corner possible on it though.
>>107935776i'm building a pc as well. if you need it then you need it.with your build just know that you're at the endgame with the cpu and 2x ram slots
>>107935940That's cool, I'm fine with my 5600 for now but in 8 years when prices are corrected I'll keep this thing in mind.
>>107932561>-MECHANIC PCB cleaning fluidthis is what I use. it's the best since it doesn't dump a shitton of VOCs into my apartment when I use it.
>>107930294go to a thrift store and buy a sewing machine from the 60's. clean it up oil it and voila!
>>107936067my shithole doesn't have any thrift stores, I really wish someone brought over something like goodwill or cash converters over here. flea markets are filled with asshats trying to fleece you everywhere
wens chang giv sooper dizkunt agin?
>>107936067I have a need for a lot of old cassette players (over 1000) and am debating on weather to go with Ali-Baba. My last interactions with large wholesale orders was less than encouraging as I was frequently and blatantly lied to about the price, timeframe and quality of materials. Is there anywhere else to go to buy a flatpacks worth of new old stock?
>>107936590anniversary sale end of march
>>107934634https://coreelec.org/Get something with an Amlogic chipset that is supported by CoreELEC. Even if you don't actually use CoreELEC (you probably should, and you can dual boot with Android) Amlogic stuff has the best community support in general.
>>107934634>>107936722I should add, if you want low end take your pick, S905W, S905X, it really doesn't matter. If you want high end an anon over in /ptg/ summed it up well:>the only right answer is an amlogic S922X-J set-top box running coreelec with full dovi p7 support, which you can get literally only get this way or with a high-end Blu-ray player.
>>107936634>prices go up 42% before sale >super big sale cometh!>19% off plus 6.3% coupon
>>107936996depends on what you're buyingi'm eyeing a ryzen 5700x that i know will jump up to the high $160-70s while cheap household items and smaller computer peripherals are going down
>>107928606Thanks god it's back.
Have the chinks made any cheap but usable thermal cameras yet?
Watching YouTube videos about FM transmitters has sent me down a rabbit hole that could end up starting my next great chink shit adventure.https://youtu.be/EB-AheEHKl0?t=802This thing he has found seems to be exactly what I am looking for. I want a decent yet cheap FM transmitter with MPX input. The idea is that I will do all my audio processing with Breakaway Broadcast. I'd like to set up a pirate radio station in a secluded site with an old PC running Windows 7 (not connected to the internet of course) playing music running off solar power/batteries. So I'd need the PC to have a 192khz sound card and not consume much power.
>>107938265Just so it's clear in the video he's not recommending the transmitter being reviewed, he went off on a tangent about some other thing and started to show it off.
>>107938265chinks cant into radio equipmentthey make fun toy radios like baofengs and quanshengs but thats about it and why bother with any of this? if you want cheap, all of this has been solved by sdr in the form of hackrf clones
>>107939476Well it shouldn't be that complicated to make a decent exciter, and as he got at in the video it seems that's what they did:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007567535154.htmlNormally where all the chink FM transmitters go wrong beyond all the spurious output is the sound quality. They are not made for professionals so the stereo encoder is built in (and sucks) and you don't get MPX input.Now it does seem like this could be a possibility with something like a HackRF and there has been one mention of it:https://hackrf-dev.greatscottgadgets.narkive.com/lTPPzvrv/fm-modulating-external-mpx-signalBut not a lot of actual info on how to actually get it done. The reason why I would bother is proof of concept and fun more than anything. If I can make something that sounds better than professional FM stations I commonly hear on the most pathetic budget ever that would be a source of pride. But beyond the exciter I'd need an amplifier and probably a filter to clean up the output from the amplifier.
My chinkwatch came. All the threads have insane tolerances. The bracelet is great. The polish on all the indices and hands are aligned to shine at the same time. I would definately buy another shartin'
>>107938265I would like a personal fm radio station and personal cable tv channels running on the coax in my house
>>107939732I'm autistic to the point that I can't do 12 hour watches, but for some reason only raketa makes halfway decent movements and they're not cheap. Why hasn't chang copied that? I know there would be at least a few half dozen sales.
>>107939754https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010686000996.htmlThey have you covered for analog TV, should be easy enough to get FM going too. If your goal is only to cover your house you don't need a super powerful transmitter. I used to pull it off with the $1 ones. I stuck one in the back window of my house before and it was heard in every room. I used to also listen to it while I was sitting at the bus stop quite far away (but line of sight) waiting to go to work.
>>107939761I mean this is a gmt. Just set the red hand identically to the normal hour hand and it's a 24 hour hand.
>>107939949I saw that, but it's still more complicated than picrel.
>>107939976fug
>>107939986those are soo cool, but really expensive to get
>>107939976>>107939986It's literally just another gear. They don't make them commonly because they're low demand. The chinks put seiko, miyota, and seagull movements in everything as well as pt5000/sw200 eta clones. None of them make a 24 hour movement. You can get vostoks (russian watches) with it under $200 though.
>>107940120
>>107940120bc they only make sense in the polar regions, space or some other weird situations in which you dont have a reference of the day-night, so you cannot know for sure which time is it just with a 12 hour clockand nowadays we have digitals
>>107940185Or just generally military. That said plenty of cheap chronos have a 24 hour slave subdial for that purpose. Anything with a vk63 movement will have a 24 hour subdial
>>107940217I wish they would add a gear to the seagulls like this to at least make the lower subdial 24 hour as the vanity mirrored one to the regular hour hand is attrocious. Seagull really should make this a thing like the vk63 on the ST19, just add a small gear and call it the ST19-24
>>107940250Pic related, that lower subdial is literally the exact same as the normal hour hand and it's just a dealbreaker, it's horrible.
>>107936590February 17th is chinese new year. I wiuld definately think then would be a sale day.
>>107940185>bc they only make sensedo you know where you are?
i guess lunar new year is the next big "sale"?
>>107939761>>107939986There are somehttps://aliexpress.com/item/1005008626013337.html
>>107940959i recall it being very average last year, almost the same as the first of month choice days
can watchdogs explain why most watches have this fuckhuge bezel?it looks like shit and reason why I never wear a watchwhy don't they make anything with thin or no bezel?
>>107941874watchfags*lol
>>107941874The bezel was originally a thing for divers. it's meant to rotate only one direction and mark the minutes of remaining air. It's since become a feature stable and its original use is questionable at best. A lot of divers I know (all three of them) still use it besides having their more modern computers.
>>107941906I see
>>107942145Basically disregard my explanation and have a read.https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/watch-101/dive-watches-use-rotating-bezel.htmlIt's almost friday and I had a liquid lunch at the office. the one way rotation is so that it can only reduce the dive time rather than accidentally go above where it was set. ABC watches can use the bezel to maintain a heading, but that's a level of autism I'd rather not get into atm.
>>107940636mechanical watches are already niche, this is just more complicated with no real reason, so its a niche of a niche.and thus it has a couple of companies on it no more
>>107942442And that's why I said several half dozens of us. Not quite 24 of us I don't think. But probably more than 18.
>>107941874If you want no bezel you want bauhaus design watches. The seestern one of these is an "homage" of a nomos and the one that says omos will actually say nomos and is an actual counterfeit watch.
FiiO original earpads upgrade, supposedly real lambskin.Left - stock FT1 Pro hybrids, Right - replacement.Looks legit, obvious fakes are missing the small FT1 logo on the rims and/or use the same smooth plastic "leather" for main surfaces as on the rims.Feels legit, leathery, but internally more stiff foam than originals.Smells like chinese factory.Sounds less different than expected, only a bit boomier but less punchy bass, surprisingly seems to be mostly caused by stiff foam affecting fit and seal rather than leather reflections, manually pressing on earcups changes sound to be closer to stock. Will make a better review after a couple more pads arrive and I wear them in some more. Any way I can check how real is this totally real leather, other than destructive tests like cutting or burning?
>>107942546>nomosHere is how much the original msrp is. I quite like the colors of the seestern knockoffs myself. They have fun accents on all of them.
>>107942546>90 bucks for a watchgod damn. I'll just keep using my phone
>>107931881Whistles can be insanely loud.
>>107942660yeah but 150dB?
>>107942768But at which frequency? Do they tell?You can blast 20khz at 200db; I still wont hear shit and neither will you.
>>107942950pretty sure 200dB at 20khz is going to make you deaf even if you cant "hear" it
>>107942971Do they specify at which frequency?
>>107942950>>107942971i am pretty sure that 200db is considered a shockwave, way in the range of mayor physical damage
>>107943004Gemini says thermal damages for 300khz
>>107943000well I did not click it because I do not want ali to suggest me more flutes
>>107943115Naturally, neither would I.
>>107942642This is most of what you're paying for. It's $30 on it's own before you get the case, hands, dial, stem, crown, strap.
>>107942768nta, but a chainsaw reved up all the way is about 130db, and i can say with absolute certainty that the whistle referees use in soccer matches is way louder than that
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006175964407.htmlcute!
>ETA for package is the 26th>received everything but a single item the 22nd
>>107942552wait and see if it flakes. honestly cow skin isn't supposed to be super rare and expensive
>>107942642bruh. Watches are jewelry for men. You wear them when dressed up for a wedding, funeral, or other normie formal event. It makes you look more professional.Earnshaw watches aren't cheap, but they look incredible and are very stylish for the pricetag. The ones linked in that other image are actually quite nice for the pricetag also. If you're paying over a grand, you're overpaying for any watch, unless you're a rich idiot buying rolexes.
>>107944146I guess I'm too autistic to get normalfag fashion.
>>107935776Slightly related, the chinks are also selling rtx2000m cards, the ampere one, might be a good choice for low cost encoding or slopping, it has 8GB of vram and doesn't eat much power, there's also an LP version.
>>107942546How do you even find Omos's and such on there?
>>107944146>Earnshaw watches aren't cheap$149 for a watch in TYOOL2026 is kind of cheap
>>107945712Yeah, $149 is cheaper than a lot of Timex and Swatches, lmao. That's not "dress watch" territory unless you genuinely don't care about watches. That's actually fine then. I will buy Timex and Swatches, I like some of them. Just don't get caught out wearing mall kiosk dogshit (divers, especially) like Fossil.
>hey we noticed you liked our store>heres an expired coupon c:
I bought this "hall effect" replacement stick for my drifting joy con, but I'm gonna guess the only way to check if it's actually hall effect is if never starts to drift?It's working for now though, and I'll probably be selling it for a switch 2 eventually so I guess it just needs to work until then.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009253060041.html
>>107946768Seems way too cheap to be real, maybe you can try sticking a strong magnet near it?
>>107946768unless they went down in price a ton, those are not hall effect.you can feel the hall effect ones, they feel different
>>107937704I’m not sure of the safety of what’s shown here (I thought you’d need to be way further back), I’m a white helmet who’s only allowed in the tunnel long after the dust has settled, but as a tunnel rat, I quite enjoy that webm.>>107937954Yes, they have. I’m quite happy with mine. >>107942502That’s 100% not gonna look anywhere close to this render. >>107944146Open heart/skelelton watches are neckbeard/fedoracore cringe. Even more so when they’re cheap. For a few $k? Still cringe, but who cares, you’re loaded, but cheap? lol, nope. If you wanna go cheap, do it with honor!>I’m keen with the hygiene!
>>107936619OK, ill bite, why the hell do you need THOUSANDS of cassette players? Im genuinely curious...
>>107937954i have a thermal master p1, phone usbc camera, surprisingly sharp and sensitive and cheap enough, around 110€
I bought a USB-C to USB-C + 3.5mm adapter for my shitty new phone. I want to keep it inserted at all times to minimise wear on the port. Unfortunately, this disables my phone's speakers, even if no headphones are connected.Is there an adapter which will only disable the internal speakers if headphones are connected?
>>107947442holy autism... not to be rude but surely a wireless charger would be much less jank than having this thing at the bottom of your phone 24/7?Not to mention this shape causes a lot of mechanical wear on the port. Even a small lateral force on either end of the port causes huge torque on the phone port.
>>107947442are you sure there isnt a sotware option for that? maybe it is in developers mode
>>107947452A wireless charger doesn't solve my problem. I'll still have to keep removing the dongle to use my phone speakers, no?
>>107947510A wireless charged would allow you to attach an adapter to your headphones instead.Then your phone is free of adapters, and you can just plug in your headphones when you want to use them. The adapter can stay on the headphones 24/7.>I'll still have to keep removing the dongle to use my phone speakers, no?I never used one, but I don't see the difference between plugging in your headphones normally and plugging in "the dongle that's on your headphones".Note that this dongle has a flexible cable, which is much better for preventing wear on the port than the stiff one in your pic.
>>107947442But anon, how are you gona stop this from wearing out? Time to order another dongle!
What is the best cheap tablet? All I want it for it to watch YouTube in my kitchen.
>>107947523I don't care if I have to replace disposable joke.>>107947522>The adapter can stay on the headphones 24/7.No, because the main reason I'm using these headphones is that I'm also using them with other devices which do have 3.5mm jacks.
>>107947552*junk
Just came back from a year long hiatus.Are the games just a scam now?0.001% progress per 100 ml in Prizeland is just abyssmal seeing how you get like 80 ml per day from the dailies.
>>107944146what if "jewelry for men" is boring?
>>107947528xiaoxin padyoutube is one the few things it does well, that's why it's cheap
I dont get why my package status keeps getting dates updated and the status circles between sorting center and airport transit and consolidation warehouseI dont recall if any of my packages that eventually arrived went through this or if this means the order will fail and get cancelled
>>107948788Those go for around $280 USD in Temu. Most Samsung tablets go for less than that, which kinda defeats the purpose.
>>107949026nta>temuits 140 on Ali, if I'm searching for the right oneI was gonna say Poco pad cause its better spec and I got it for 180 last year but it looks like it doubled in price, damn
What is the best item to farm diamonds? I found a few cheap items with free shipping but it doesn't look like the store is going to ship the items :(
>>107947172bunkerbro?
>>107948772>>107944709
>>107949287>wants to wear jewelry but only the approved jewelry that doesn't make you seem gaythat's pretty bottom gay, man.
>10 games of gogomatch to sign into the gem world travel game100k gems, very much like kisses, don't come for freeat least it's not 10 games of shelf sort i hate that shit so much
>>107949414>social norms dont exist
>>107949484social norms are just conformist stereotypes that don't let you express yourself.I'm not saying go out naked wearing only a tie, I'm saying that suit + watch is just boring. people cling to it because they associate it with success. and people buy expensive trinkets because they want to show off status. it feels like the most cucked thing in the world.
>>107949619I didn't read past your first sentence. I'm glad we agree that they exist, Your preference for them is totally irrelevant.
>this classic thing? heh, fucking boringebin win saar
>>107949484Unleash your autism and live your best life, anon. Autists are excepted from social norms
>>107949627many things exist, doesn't mean they're right>>107949672what's wrong with that statement?
why is it watcheswhy is it always watches which makes everyone angry lmao
>>107949791Last time it was metal beams or plates or somesuch
>>107949822if an anon won 100 million dollars and invited every /csg/er to an island i guarantee there would be less people leaving at the end of the trip
>>107949791watchfags are pretty gay, but the mechanical keyboard edgelords are way, _WAY_, worse.i miss 7d mangoes times>inb4 waiting 2 month to eat chink dried mango bits with botulismsimpler times
>>107949791cause its retarded and a waste of money but somehow its fine
>>107950012mechanical edgelords have been obsoleted by magnetic keyboard enthusiasts
>>107949748You're right. The fact that 99% of people follow the social norms is generally the good indicator that they're right
>>107950062I have a chinkboard ajazz mechanical and a chink san martin GMT
>>107950266thousands of flies can't possibly be wrong
>>107950544Explain what you think the word generally means
>>107949414The watch is a tool. In fact I consider the clothing I choose to be tools. They're just decorative tools. All the major types of mens clothing has a function and purpose for their design. Many come from sports, from jobs, from military applications. The henley is a rowing shirt and meant to give more airflow when hot and button back up when cold. The polo is a tennis shirt designed for the collar to be popped to keep your neck from being sunburned. The trucker jacket is as implied and is denim for durability when unloading or working on engines. Pretty much everything has a function in menswear. Even the suit is just an offshoot of military garments and the tie comes from mercenaries. But pure jewelry is functionless and womanly.
>>107950544Yeah you're right - the dude wearing a emo brooch on an anime website probably has the right life outlook and idea about how humanity should operate and not 8 billion people that perpetuate culture that has sustained humanity for millennia.
>>107950554usually.which I don't agree with. most people are clueless, and don't look into anything deeply.>>107950569>perpetuate culture>consumerism and business attire>>107950577so what you're saying is that everyone needs to bend the knee to conformism and never ever try to express yourself, just buy the expensive thing that makes you look successful to other conformists?>>107950576at least somewhat of a better answer, except suit has no use like a military uniform, which should be more like camouflage. unless you're implying that the function is to be homogenous, subservient and not stand out, which then would be correct.>womanlyno such thing. only womanly thing in the world is giving birth. everything else are just things.your perceptions are shaped by people that want to sell you things, and people telling you what to wear. but anyone can like and wear anything.theres no reason for the backwards gender conformism logic.a woman who's working a job which requires functional clothing would wear the same functional clothing a man does.no reason why it can't also work in reverse, where function isn't needed. aka most of your life.
I'm getting paranoid but I bought thread that glows in dark and later when I started thinking about it, should be afraid that it could be radioactive because chang wanted to somehow make it cheaper?
>>107950663do you think its cheaper to get radioactive enough material that would actually glow than some fluorescent/reflective thing?
>>107950704Stories with lost radioactive material (like that one that happened on scrapyard in Brazil) are living rent free in my head
>>107950720your next purchase will be a dosimeter though there could be diy ways to test if it radiates anything like those vapor chamber Experiment things
>>107950641>at least somewhat of a better answer, except suit has no use like a military uniform, which should be more like camouflage. unless you're implying that the function is to be homogenous, subservient and not stand out, which then would be correct.Literally look into it. It all evolved from the cravat. The reason it is all the same is that it's supposed to be a uniform.
>>107950775yeah but that was then, and today is now
>>107950799And today the uniform for doing business is a suit. It's function is simply wearing the uniform so you can be taken seriously as an ingroup member.
>>107950816but "business" isn't a functional or serious activity. why does there need to be a uniform for it? and hardly anyone who wears suits actually does business, they do it because they want to appear like they're worth something, but your worth isn't in what you wear.>>107950775and if you want to go down history, skirts were the normal attire for men for thousands of years but if I want to wear one now you're gonna call me a fag, and the guy on the other side of the coin will call me an egg, and another one wave flags at me.why do these trivial irrelevant things need to be so important to people? clothes are just clothes. trinkets are trinkets.nobles of old times used to covet purple fabrics, and people still go crazy for gold and gemstones. things that are just going to be dust in the end anyway, so why?the irony of asking this in a chinese wares almanach communion on a samurai inspired congregation isn't lost on me sorry for the autism
>>107950950I mean I'm not a suit person. I wear fjallraven cargo pants and 8.1oz flannel or a brushed chamois with an appropriate jacket for the weather whether it be a 3 layer breathable rain jacket, a lined duck canvas, a windbreaker anorack, or a fleece lined 3 layer jacket. Again I like tool clothes. I have a wool cardigan, a fleece jacket and a cotton quarter zip for layering again depending on the weather. And I have linen and cotton camp collars again dependent on the weather and practical application. I have a cheap grey suit for when I have to wear one and a cotton travel blazer for business casual and two pairs of chinos for usage with it. The travel blazer has pockets for my pen and sunglasses or reading glasses. I buy medium to high quality tool clothes. My favorite brands are ll bean, pendleton, filson, flint and tinder, duluth. My next purchase will be to round out my summer clothes and will be some blucher mocs ideal for travel that can be resoled indefinitely.
>>107951021sounds nice. I never heard of any of those I should look them up. I like some function in clothes too. though I end up just carrying some sort of bag anyway cause there's not enough space eitherway. and mostly comfort. like I like thigh highs and leg warmers and hand warmers first and foremost cause of comfort and function, and turtlenecks are also nice in winter. a breathable ventilated rain jacket would be a dream for me. they are either expensive or bad quality though, which is unfortunate. not sure why having a couple zippers added to the sides increases the price by 10 times, and all the "membrane" fabrics are a scam..maybe I should get into clothes making. I have so many ideas both for function and for looks that no one does for some reason even though they seem obvious. it feels like these things are designed by people that don't actually wear them themselves. or want to conform to some fashion that's established. underwear is another thing that's difficult both function and looks wise. function is rare and women have a lot nicer visual designs. I've posted a bunch of ventilated ones here before that I will keep shilling because the comfort is like nothing else I've tried.https://a.aliexpress.com/_EzK2GXw
>>107951108I'm married and I have to say women's clothing is horrible. I go to buy her things and everything is lower quality at normal stores. Like even at the GAP, the mens denim jacket is probably around 14oz denim, I mean it's pretty heavy. Go to the womens section and it's like 7oz or less trash. I got my rain jacket on clearance at eddie bauer, they're closing brick and mortars across the country. It was $75 and does have pit vents and packs into it's own pocket. Eddie bauer in general is a little inferior to other outdoor focused brands but this was their top of the line one that was normally like $190 or something. I don't appreciate paying a lot for plastic clothes in general. Also LL Bean, they'll have nice sweaters for men and then in the womens section they fucking add retarded synthetic materials to everything for the same price.
When is Chang giving out shopping credit again? Do I have to wait until summer?
>>107951153Oh and for underwear I get buffalo david bitton on amazon. They're perfect. They don't fucking mash your dick and balls or let them stick to your leg. The perfect middle ground.
>>107951153grim...75$ for a plastic jacket is insane too. makes me want to give diy waterproofing a go. the paraffin wax oil mixture https://youtu.be/HedRbIsM75M
/fa/ is leaking huh
>>107951189When you do this it completely destroys the breathability. When it comes to technical outdoor clothing you're paying for this and it will be synthetic. The jacket is breathable while being waterproof. It also has ykk zippers with a rubber sheath all the way down it to reduce even leakage at the zippers. Another alternative you can do aside from wax is use silicone. The same 100% silicone as you would put in a calking gun. You dilute it with mineral spirits and paint it onto any fabric and it waterproofs it with silicon instead of wax which also will not breathe, but it also will not alter the color and will not need rewaxing. Motorcyclists use this trick to waterproof their gear for cold rain.
>>107951189Be warned, it's extremely sweatyt. used to own a barbour waxed cotton jacket
>>107951172if I'm finding the right ones they just look like those shorts-kind that's considered normal, but they have an entirely too long legs that would ride up and roll up for me, and I'm betting probably the issue of many mens underwear, which is having a weird diaper ass that doesn't actually conform to the shape of your ass, which is not comfortable.>>107951210its not possible to have it both waterproof and breathable unless you use vents and zips, because all the cancer filled high tech fabrics completely loses effectiveness when wet on the outside, as well as when outside humidity is higher or equal to inside, and these fabrics are insanely overpriced and filled with unspeakable chemicals, when adding a couple of zippers to a plastic jacket would cost pennies. its dumb.>>107951219I've tried many different kind of rain gear over past several years cause I cycle, and I found that everything is sweaty. if you don't have copious ventilation at proper angles you will be suffering and need to carry a spare set of clothes. but its better than overpriced *tex that will be sweaty and expensive anyway
Recently bought an Akko keyboard -- 5075 v3. Costed me 49 USD (~63 post taxes).Build quality is solid for the price, has some weight and doesn’t feel cheap. Typing feels smooth, stabilizers are decent, and there’s no rattle.(09/10)
>>107951233>its not possible to have it both waterproof and breathable unless you use vents and zips, because all the cancer filled high tech fabrics completely loses effectiveness when wet on the outside, as well as when outside humidity is higher or equal to inside, and these fabrics are insanely overpriced and filled with unspeakable chemicals, when adding a couple of zippers to a plastic jacket would cost pennies. its dumb.The way they work is by using a membrane that is small enough for gases to pass but not liquid. The surface tension is what keeps it working. Think of something like jello sitting on top of a screen door mesh. It's this except much smaller. You have to pay more for this and you probably haven't had one that does this. Cheap rain gear is just a sheet of plastic that will not breathe.
>>107951247Where did your numpad go
>>107951270I don't need one.
>>107951252yeah but that actually doesn't work. several gear fags did a bunch of tests, and that just doesn't work outside of very specific set of conditions like outside being less humid and not having too much rain to cover the fabric too. making it completely pointless.https://youtu.be/1r6rxWvZdhothat's why non breathable solid fabric + overhanded vents and zips is the way to go.
are these brown prototype boards really FR-4 fiberglass like they say in the description?I hope they're lying because I want to cut them
>>107944146>rich idiot buying rolexes.Rich people don't buy rollies. They're poorfag priced.
>>107947528I feel like you could get yourself any LCD screen and hook it up either directly or wirelessly (Raspi or on-board if it comes with it) to your phone for that, but maybe that's a nerdy answer.
>>107951365best piece of rain gear I have is a 15€ aldi bike rain jacket, non breathable but it has pit zips an overhanged big vent on the back, and the entire inner part is a mesh which makes it not stick to you and allow some circulation. I found it better than the rain poncho I got from aliexpress
time to upgrade
>>107951472you blind or something? those are clearly fr2 (phenolic paper)and you can score and break fr4 easily, no need to cut it and make a mess
>>107951365Guy is wrong.When it's raining goretex will keep you dry.When you're sweating (and it's not raining) you'll sweat less.This being said gtx for jackets is overhyped and overpriced in my opinion.
>>107951365The thing is you often wear the jacket when it is not raining and you do want the breathability. Start stop, wind etc. Mine does have armpit vents and I like organofluorines although they were unfortunately mostly regulated away from clothes. Scotch guard which I buy and use isn't what it used to be.
>>107951670More info on the soldering iron? Is it a particularly good value one people normally rec?
>>107950816>And today the uniform for doing business is a suit.Not anymore. I work in office environment higher ups are no longer wearing suits but idk what would you even call that "outdoors business" style? Suits are now reserved for politicians and high positioned govt employees.
>>107951704In general the tech industry are slobs.
>>107951247nice
>>107951700I picked it after watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXGb5q1OTAthis one was in my price range, check the video to see which one fits your needs
>>107951693if you want breathability when its not raining just unzip, 5head>>107951682you didn't actually say anything that he didn't say
>>107951829>you didn't actually say anything that he didn't sayGuy is saying goretex is not worth it because sweat can't evaporate when it's damp outside.That's true but you still have jacket that is both watherproof while it's raining and makes you sweat less when it's dry so basically two jackets in one.
>>107951871is that how waterproof breathable rain jackets work? there's two jackets in one but each layer covers a different part of your body so there's openings when you walk and the top areas are shielded from the rain?
>>107951871but don't you get that that's stupid?if its not raining just unzip it.and if its raining you're fucked unless you have vents
What is the dumbest thing you can buy /csg/? I don't mean something that is pointless, but rather something you know for a fact is absolutely a bad idea to buy. I am new to all this, but I imagine buying power strips or electric cabling is a house fire waiting to happen.
>>107952383idk sex toys?maybe those electric cooking oil spray bottlespretty much anything that goes into your body will give you cancer
>>107952383like, chemicals, like dick growing chemicals or something>>107952400sex toys are fine... r-right?
>>107952427some aremetal ones should be fine i think? for the silicone ones you have to do the lighter testfake silicone toys will burn like candles while real silicone doesnt burn
>>107952383any foodanything that gets into contact with foodanything that gets into too much contact with your skinA syringe might be the worst thing you can buy
>>107952443id trust metal ones less...
>>107951159too many people know about it nowthey significantly cut down on the gibs
>>107951829>if you want breathability when its not raining just unzip, 5headBut I can do that on top of the fabrics breathability and the pit vents. Honestly though I bought it for travel because it packs down into its own pocket, doesn't look like shit, is loose enough to just use as a light shell with a flannel and sweater under it, and isn't so hot I couldn't wear it in a summer storm. I like to just carry on. Ideally I will buy a good carry on suitcase and find a ~30L replacement backpack that will still fit under a plane seat to get rid of the 20L fucking purse I have now. Don't get me wrong the bag is nice, it's just so fucking small and I'm 6'2 and it really does look like a purse.
>>107952024You realize that you can use it as a shell over your knits right? For wind? Like do you live in the south where it is always hot and humid or something?
>>107951159You mean on Temu? Is it actually just credit you can use on anything or is it "credit" (you can spend the money on this specific pool of preselected really shitty item). I figured it was the latter so I never bothered with it.
>>107952565that's obvious yeah?no I live in eastern and western europe
>>107951827what happened to the pinecil meme
>>107950663>>107950720
>>107951670>>107951827>portablefucking why tho? are you some kind of a repair technician that travels around or something?buy a real soldering station instead of buying these toys that compromise power and features for portability.
fuck i wish changs website wasnt such a steaming pile of dogshit!trash site hangs loading my cart and glitches out trying to enter a code at checkout these yellow niggers do near scamazon numbers of transactions daily and cant make a webpage load or a search that worksand im not installing their faggotass spyware foneapp
>>107952383ssd/sdcard/usb drives
>>107953637it's not portable, there's no battery
>>107953742>batteryThat's not what "portable" means. It works with a power bank.
>>107953637NTA but my room is tiny and I'm in a sharehouse, my soldering station is also my computer desk, Warhammer painting area, synthesizer stand and writing table.
>Listing has pictures of two similar but different items>Ask which picture is correct>Chang says he can send both types>Deletes the listingWhat did he mean by this?
>>107952383If you want to be extremely specific, probably fat burner supplements. Best case, it's capsules filled with lead-packed Chinese herbs at random. Worst case, it's DNP and you overheat and die.
There are so many counterfeits on Banggood, holy shit lmao. How could any of that actually enter the country?
Any battery bank recommendations? Especially one that won't get confiscated when traveling by plane - I'm going to Japan in a few months and I will probably need one
>>107954534The TSA posts the rules, my dude. Just check them and then go from there.
>>107947209Maybe he thinks he can sell them to nostalgia fags?>>107953277Maybe it's too old and overpriced now?
>ask question where we can buy chinese ram in the gamer nexus chinese ram thread>thread gets nukedthey really dont want me to upgrade, dont they
>>107954942taobaoit's not cheaper if that's what you're hoping for
>>107954942>>107954956>CHINESE RAM WILL CAUSE PRICES TO GO DOWN!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradoxI know you (>>107954956) are already aware that the prices won't go down, but Jevons paradox is why that is. Supply goes up to meet demand, and demand in turn rises to meet the supply and you never get ahead. While Jevons paradox doesn't apply to most things (long-term) it has a chance of doing so here given that every single tech company on the planet isn't even considering the option of turning down their RAM consumption. I don't mean by 2030, I mean ever. They will constantly burn through their RAM (you can find stats on data center churn for different parts if you look), and they will need to replace that RAM while also acquiring additional RAM for their new data centers. Sorry, my dudes, this is reality until the bottom falls out and when that happens you have a lot worse things to keep in mind. Like, your job, how you're going to pay for food, when will you be homeless? Those things.
>>107955029>supply going up make price go down goy>except when it doesn'tand people wonder why there isn't a nobel prize for (((economics)))
i just finished installing chink roof lampholy shit i thought i was gonna die trying to mount itthe mounting was fucking awful, but it was worth it
>>107955132did you twist harder
>>107955163>twistlol i wished it was like thatthis fucking shit had sliding mount
>>107955070What's hilarious is that they got so butthurt that the Nobel committee doesn't give one, that they went and made their own Nobel prize for economics that the Nobel committee treats like pic related.
>>107954534>Any battery bank recommendations?Don’t just buy the cheapest, but from an established brand like anker, ugreen, baseues etc
>>107955132where is the wall-e? what a ripoff...
>>107954534I got a 20Ah from baseus few years ago and I'm very happy with it
>>107955029when the bottom falls out, everyone will switch to the next clown-world bubble, there wont be a big collapse, it'll just be another quick recession and pivot into the next big thing.Also these things tend to balance out once globohomo conquers another resistant nation-state and forces them to adopt the poison-chalice of jewish debt-currency.
Post rare finds
they're going to boom us on the 100k gem goal in the final levels with impossible goals like>complete otter match within 5 minutesor>finish shelf sort with 4 minutes to sparechaaaaAAAANG!!
>>107956651kek that's actually pretty cute. I'd buy that for myself
>>107956651https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008645121879.htmlno idea why there are so many of these
>asian wikihow style art>teeth withening>skin whitening>wart removal>perfect figure slimming produtswtf stop suggesting thesewho puts these chemicals on or in their body
>>107957488Fent labs.
i vaguely remember somebody buying a Gamesir x5 lite, was it any good?also i've never bought from aliexpress, getting a bundle with other shet is normal?and then, what other superfluos shet should i even get??
also>that mannequin silicone foot which you just know most buyers of is not going to use for mannequin stuff
>>107957439>aero status: ruined
>>107955029>I know you (>>107954956) are already aware that the prices won't go down, but Jevons paradox is why that is. Supply goes up to meet demand, and demand in turn rises to meet the supply and you never get ahead. While Jevons paradox doesn't apply to most things (long-term) it has a chance of doing so here given that every single tech company on the planet isn't even considering the option of turning down their RAM consumption. I don't mean by 2030, I mean ever. They will constantly burn through their RAM (you can find stats on data center churn for different parts if you look), and they will need to replace that RAM while also acquiring additional RAM for their new data centers. Sorry, my dudes, this is reality until the bottom falls out and when that happens you have a lot worse things to keep in mind. Like, your job, how you're going to pay for food, when will you be homeless? Those things.anon do you know that the memory companies are not planing to make new factories? they dont count the bubble to last even a fucking ram gen
why does the coins page widget sometimes look like this and doesnt hive me the extra 5 coins when checking in?then when i remove it from the homescreen and try to add it back, it doesnt work.
Is ATK R1 Pro still the default mouse recommendation for poorfags? I'm looking into some similarly priced Redragon options too, but they don't seem to be as widely reviewed as R1 Pro.>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808547856718.htmlAlso I'm trying to find out whether this store is legit or if they are selling a fake R1 Pro, because when switching to my shithole, R1 Pro from here costs literally half of pretty much any other store.
Kek
>>107954705No I think I'll just ask chat gpt
>>107959384lol
>>107959384>worse than the microwave time memethat "review" was made by an american wasn't it?
Anyone have experience with buying monitors? I'm looking at the AURIA 30" EQ308C Display, WQXGA resolution. I need something with WQXGA 2560x1600, and want IPS, but the price looks too good to be true (<$100). Now I'm wondering if the resolution is scaled.
>>107959384
>>107951519I'm no stranger to doing weird shit like that, but I'm not the type of person who carries his phone around to every room.I just want to sit down to eat something or wash the dishes and have the tablet already be there.
>>107959771Lole I wonder if she thought "hmm why is there a nub on the 5 key...oh well"
>>107959771but she is right?what the fuck is this
>>107960192don't think she pressed them on properly. i changed my switches for the first time and they were like this until i went and pushed in every single one of them and now they're all flush
What are anons opinion on the RedMagic phones? Can I use it as my everyday phone since I don't take pictures at all? Or what else are the cons?
>>107959011my atk (u2) was priced ever so cheaper than what's priced on their website.i know its some cheap repo/chink shit but why not find your local store's online page instead? thats what i didcant say anything about redragon mice, sorry
>>107960786they're the notchless phone range aren't they? absolutely go for it if you have the cash
>>107958104>he needs aeroweight is where it's at
Any good bootleg joycons?
hey do you know good vendors to buy electronic component for cheap (not in crazy units for sensor and actuators, but maybe for passive component) It's mostly for arduino prototyping in robotics
>>107960786Shit software with zero support but if you like the gaymer aesthetics go for it.
>>107961507DependsYou want something that looks exactly like a joycon? All the bootlegs are shit.You just want a controller that attaches like joycons? There are a few options. Mobapad M6, coiorvis or easysmx if you want it cheaper.Note that mobapad's HD rumble is broken so don't actually spend extra on that.
>>107961213You ain’t no proper racer if you’re not obsessed with both!>>107960192>>107959771What’s up with the reverse profile of the 0? What’s that review about? Only the keycaps (so might be user error, but still, that nub on the 5 and the revers 0 are weird, or are those the numpad ones?) or the whole keyboard? In that case, that’s hilarious, unless that’s some ergo Dvoratard layout I’ve never heard of.
>>107962301>Only the keycaps Yes>are those the numpad onesYes, the entire numbers row is. Non-numpad has symbols.
one of the speakers in my blueantx2 died, only works a little when i press the middle part in.idk if i wanna spend $20 on a shitty fix, any recommended portable speakers for a workshop?
>>107962350Ok, that is pretty hilarious. Poor Chang. Just trying to make an honest buck, but gweilos stupidity fucks his score.
Just watched a video of a mystery meat third worlder solder with a $2 soldering iron while I struggle with a $40 one.
>>107964536heat is heat, temperature control is a useless meme.
>"to protect the security of your account..."FUCK YOU CHIINKS MY 10 BUCKS NOOOOOOOOOOO>they wiped my 80 days streak>got a bug where i could not play gogomatch for daysI fucking done with this shit
>>107931881you need that for minnesota or what
>>107964689You could've contacted support.
>>107964689work a job poorfag, crying over 10 bucks? you wasted far more of your phones lifespan playing shit games on the app than you'll ever make in coupons.
>>107964689>bug
>>107964689Someone in cambodia decided you nevah gonnah get this
>>107964807Heh, NTA but they did that to me and I contacted support to explain it in detail and call them lying scammers. They just said lol you missed a day.
>>107965539I missed a day and the game still let me continue my streak
>>107964920I can do both? at the same time.
could someone recommend one of those handheld blowers? (possibly ones on amazon) pc has like 3 years of dust and dog hairs in it and i don't feel like bleeding money over compressed air cans
>>107965719https://eu.wolfbox.com/products/compressed-air-duster-mf100only good one. rest is crap without pressure needed
>>107965828>119€ wait no 109€ wait no, 72€ with a discount code on the site >68€ down from 80€ on amazonjesus christ that's still expensiveshould i get it from the site? amazon seller seems to be wolfbox themselves but idk, it seems too cheap to be true
>>107965584Oh it let me do that too. Then it did the same loading "bug " for the entire rest of the day and was fixed about an hour before the reset with like a 15 level challenge.
>>107965719 just use a soft-bristle paintbrush. Works for me, been doing it for years.
>>107965584Also, that's irrelevant to begin with because I didn't miss the day. It would not load to even attempt it.
>>107965828>>107965864should i just get the mf200?
>>107966664I got the mf100. When I researched, the answer was the higher models blow harder but have less battery life. To be quite honest thoughbeithowever just get the higher model if you can afford it. Probably you aren't going to need battery life more than blowing power. Use it briefly then charge as needed. Unless you're out in the field blowing all day or something without access to charging.
>>107964689This is the chinese plan to mentally destroy the western population. Mindbreak them with aliexpress daily streaks
>>107967291I still prefer this to supporting *their* businesses.
>>107964920>He says in the cheap shit generalLol, Mayo, with a kek
i hate that by buying chinkshit i support chinks and their emigration to other countiresbut i hate more buying some shit for 2x+ price because get fucked goym
>>107968085>i support chinks and their emigration to other countireshow buying shit made in china doesnt help them stay there? wtf
>>107968098why would they stay there lol?
>>107961202>>107962000Yeah, I have a 7S Pro or whatever, but the software is... Yeah, and I'm extremely retarded to even install a Custom ROM, I just want a strong gaming phone(that does not heat up like crazy while draining my battery) that I also can use as my everyday phone, still thanks anons might save up for the one launching this year
>>107965584>>107964920>>107964689Ummm...is it $10 or $100? The end card says 1000k gems which I think is the equivalent of 1mil over 100 days?
>>107968103They aren't indians anon, they aren't a plague on the world immigrating everywhere constantly. They come on a student visa, steal every scrap of ip they can, take up university seats that should be going to americans, then go back to china.
>>107968358>they aren't a plague on the world immigrating everywhere constantly.yes they, they are even worse because at least indians are poor and they don't run local mafia and they don't buy land
>>107968398> he doesn't know about indian gangs
>>107968398Indians are the richest group in the US
>>107968635eat the ri... ew nevermind
fuck, these chink homages look really cool...
>>107964689Don't feel bad. Day 99 is probably going to be like "invite 5 new members to Aliexpress" or "make a purchase over $60", and on top of that they're counting on people to be unable to exchange the gems because of time zones, and especially since you have an influx of people who are looking to cash them in.Take solace in the fact that very few people are going to be able to complete it.
>>107969946All of those look really unstylish.
Ordering a bunch of chastity cages and underwear on Aliexpress, if Ali combines multiple items into one parcel will they write embarrassing shit on the parcel? Like I ordered a bunch of fnirsi electronics shit and it was just labelled ‘battery’.I’m away for work right now and my parents are collecting all my parcels from the front door.
>>107966664Do you have a collection of brand battery tools like Dewalt or makita? Get a blower that takes those batteries.
>>107971392All of my bundles have come without any external labelling in the UK, but it's probably very much country dependent. I ordered a sex toy from America a little while back and they put FUCKMASTER 5000 on it, which was very nice of them.
AliExpress you FOOLS!You thought taking away your cashback and forcing it on only fashion would make me buy your fashion productsBut instead I ordered what I wanted anyway and without the cashback, have had no reason to even LOOK at your sire to make another order. I even let met 70 day coin streak run out. I'm free! I'm free! I'm free!
Looking for DIY LIPO charge/discharge PCBs with PD 18W+. With step-up boost.I'm interested in both smaller, basic ones 18-30W for general use with phones, but it should be step-up boost so 1S (Only one 3.7v battery)and more powerful 65-100W ones for use with laptop (I understand they will need to be 2-3S, but then they should have balanced charging...I can only find one 18W PD, all 20-100W boards have no boost (they need 20V+ input) Any tips?
Thoughts on DIY-ing a frankenstein drill mixers, press or lawn mowers with these cheap chinese motors?
>>107973634it would be a ton of work and probably more expensive than just buying them but sure its doable, if the specs are correct
thats all thats left?any other coupons?
I have an idea for vibrating dildos but not a single one for pocket pussy. You can make dildos and vibrators from PVC pipe but i cant mold pussy because im an incel
>>107947717I think I might be shadowbanned from games ever since I came back since I still can't play GoGoMatch and Prize land giving practically nothing. I also don't seem to get keys from Mystery Boxes missions. Getting coins is fine though.What do?
>>107973847just buy an onahole and clone it
Aliexpress package arrived:- 8M flat CAT 8-cable- 90 degree USB-C cable - Mechanic tweezers, as I already bent previous one by dropping it- Pack of Kimwipes- Pack of screws, 8mm seems to be too short for AM4/5 socket mount tho- Lanrui P08 Explosion-proof Tin Gasket
>>107971469>FUCKMASTER 5000
>>107974469>- Lanrui P08 Explosion-proof Tin Gasketwhat are those for? for rebaling i see but not why you need them
>>107974649I don't know is it really any useful, but they claim it helps reballing.
>>107928606anybody have experience with these carbon monoxide generators?none of the reviews give a straight answer on fuel consumption per hour
>>107974690i mean i saw the photos and all the phrasing in that one is funnyshotings scenes, explosions, kek
>>107974469Henlo electronics fren. I also ordered tweezers. I ordered a pair of titanium ones yesterday. Supposed to arrive in Feb 4th.
i if order shit from a bunch of random sellers, will chang put them into the same box for me or am i going to get 10 different parcels?
>>107977657Depends on if they're in the same province. Some will be all together some will not. The ones coming from the same province will usually be consolidated.
>>107971392>Ordering a bunchdo you have a harem
>>107976508it will largely depend on what version you buy (how many kw and how large it is), and what power setting you are using on it.it is very economic to heat up a space that has been cold from a very long time (eg, quickly heating up the garage after returning form vacations in the winter time, once hot the floor radiant heat can keep it warm)i got one a few years agohttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/88093660/#88123766(second part/post has some info on fuel consumption, i cant tell you now, since ive never spent any time doing any more calculations, ive strapped a large tank to it, and fill it up quite rarely, since i dont use it regularly)i never did try anything other than straight diesel on it. saw many videos on the carbon deposits left on the chamber from burning oil mixtures and shit, and decided to abandon the idea, but if you dont mind claining it every once in a while go for it, its quite simple really. ive never had to clean it from using just diesel on it.just make sure that you put the muffler on the outside of the living spaces (it has a small hole to let condensation out).last time i wanted to tinker with it, i was about to try and harvest more heat from the exhaust using a air-to-air intercooler or something along those lines (it would generate far more condensation on the exhaust so i ended up not doing anything, jej)
>>107977657>i if order shit from a bunch of random sellers, will chang put them into the same box for me or am i going to get 10 different parcels?Almost all of the Choice items are coming in one bag. Last time I had 20 items and they were all in the same bag.
>>107977873it was one normal thing and then a bunch of choice ordershope it all comes together
>>107977873I ordered a bunch of choice stuff the 27th (december) and it is still stuck in transit at airportat this point I am convinced it will be lost/returnedmeanwhile some stuff I ordered a few days ago is already awaiting flight/leaving origin countryit may be that one of the items was a thermometer that might have a shitty button-battery in it and the seller fucked up by not shipping it separately and now the airlines are refusing it and it will end up being put on a boat or something
>>107977793excellent effortpoastthey seem to be pretty favorable with everybody. at $60 its probably worth getting just to try out and see if it will heat where i want
>>107947172what do you do in these tunnels