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full travel linears
>MX2A
>Gat KS-3
>Oil King
>Vertex V1
long pole linears
>Epsilon
>Ghost Dragons
>BSUN Raw
>BCP
>V2U
tactiles (anything)
>MX2A
>Lichicx
>Haimu
>Gateron

rate the new set up i just purchased

- KBDFans Holy80 anodized silver kit
- Cerakey crazed white caps w/o legends
- Zealio v1 redux 62gs

I know the cerakeys are a meme but the crazed whites looked too good

>>107932694
Based as fuck
esp the Zealios

>>107932716
thank you anon, i wasnt too sure on switches but my friend who is more into this stuff had them and i liked them. im coming from a shitty hyperx board with cherry blues and im looking forward to less noise

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Let me guess, you need more?

i need keyboad avaliable in white mans land that may be similar to k63 but i do not need media buttons it can be white or whatever just not overdesigned shit

>>107932891
All you need is Gateron Browns

>>107933324
Classic TKL
>>107933417
Cherry only

Consider the Evo80 as well

>>107933435
>Cherry only
We aren't in the early 2000s anymore. China surpassed the west. Accept it. Cherry dropped their quality hard.

>>107933468
Sure, that's why every Asian with an endgame keyboard uses MX switches.

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shitty and out of date meme i made comparing the two extremes of keyboard quality lol

what is the best board and why will it always be model fs. any model f chads in this thread?

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*Cherry MX Blacks

>>107933891
F1 only
or W1-AT for your meme IBM style layout

>>107932411
How has none of you faggots posted the new thread in the old one. Just did it myself after I've been sitting there for hours now.

>>107932694
I heard those don't sound good because they're literally filled with holes but I don't want to shit on your parade. I'm sure it'll be fine.

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GMK sexxo

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Beige sexxo

>>107931669
>>107931795
Does that mean that I need to specifically design my PCB and case in a certain way so that it thocks if I want tasteless people to buy it? Are there design guides for that or do I need to hire an audio-engineer for that?
>>107931687
Who?

>>107934176
A mechanical keyboard better be life changing

>>107934342
Spoiler: It's not.

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on a 75 keyboard where should the Del key go?

Top right?
Above backspace, like in laptops
Diagonally down right, closest to full size position

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>>107935024
on the right side of a split backspace

What's up with Taiwan mogging the fuck out of China in just about everything these days?
China is becoming the new Africa.

>>107935408
How so? They shifted keyboard manufacturing to Taiwan or what?

>>107934228
That's trappychan.

asking again, is there anyway open source alternative to the akko cloud driver? I know use via keyboards instead, my other one is via

>>107932411
gone thru several mechs over the last 6 years but i still enjoy using my 2010 macbook’s keyboard the most. far as i can tell they use scissor switches though? any similar external keyboards out there?

>>107936231
Nope.

>>107936223
Nope, but you can always make yourself a qmk usb to usb converter.
https://yaowei.dev/posts/usb-to-usb-converter/

I am so thoroughly Lichicxpilled now that I can't imagine going back to POM on Nylon

Why should a bottom-out be harsh and noisy? Why shouldn't it be soft and bouncy and semi-silent? Isn't this just better?

>>107936334
not even the magic keyboard? that sux

>>107936338
ah probs not worth it, I saved it to my keyboard already. I'd love to look at reverse engineering this POS software eventually

>>107936231
Make one out of an old Macbook
https://youtu.be/dVQKl-HVnoI?t=93

>stab keys wobble left to right
we should use shims on 1.6mm PCBs as well
fucking piece of shit stabs I hate them
gonna make it tight and warp all my caps
fuck yeah Baion take that

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GMK DMG clones arrived. They're not 100% accurate to GMK's but they're close enough that I'm not gonna quibble about it. Dark blue type on the alphanumerics is black on the clone set. Otherwise it's pretty spot on, the pictures are accurate but I sort-of ignored them.

Not bad! Pretty damn close to GMK quality for $50 instead of ~$200, and comes with novelties like Start/Select lettered keys and the d-pad arrow keys.

>>107936542
Based clone enjoyer.

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>>107936542
I'll also note that the novelties you can buy for this clone set are basically everything but the windowed Caps Lock keys, and I did find a separate listing for similar keys: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806647384783.html
DMG clone came from here where I bought the "all in one" kit that included novelties: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807901326907.html

>>107933468
This post reeks of poverty. Buy just as good aliexpress brand keyboard with E- bin Cherry switches and assume you know what it's like to touch Leopold.

Hint: the stems aren't supposed to look melted

>>107936531
use switches with LY stems on stab keys

>>107936667
Replace Leopold with Geonworks and you have a point. Leopold is cookie cutter. Why the hell would anyone want to touch it?

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Cute boys use MX Blacks L/F/SS/BI

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>>107935260
what if theres no split

>>107932411
What keyboard is in the OP pic?

>>107936881
Geonworks F1-8X V2

>>107932411
where can I get keycaps that look pretty much just like this but aren't expensive as shit or require me to set an alert on r/mechmarket

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>>107937135
"9009" colorway
There's an HK Gaming set on Amazon under this colorway for like $15 with Prime shipping

>>107937135
Buy once, cry once.
Get a gently used PBT set or something from GMK.
It's literally beige but you need to pay up to get something that looks sexy in person and feels good.
DON'T BE LAZY BEIGE IS EZ TO GET TRY DISCORD

>>107932411
So i managed to fix my water damaged filco majestouch 3 by tearing it apart and cleaning the pcb, but i already bought a blank snow hhkb hybrid type s, should I return the hhkb?

>>107937260
If you asked, you don't want it.
You wouldn't ask if you wanted to keep it.
Listen to your inner Baion.

POM on nylon coom

>>107936813
then it might be time to upgrade to something with more autism

Thoughts on Type Rs?

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>>107937135
Xmi, use taobao

>>107937950
Sexy af

one of my keys is on the frits and i tried ordering some cherry red switches and it looks like everyone is backordered with some saying for like six months. are things really that bad?

>>107938338
Wtf? Just get mx2a blacks

>>107938338
no just cherry's doing that

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>I love getting bottomed out by long poles!

>>107936707
That's a man?!

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>>107941167

>>107934169
yep i have no idea desu, company is paying for it so i just said fuck it

>>107941183
trappychan

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What is a mechanical equivalent of mx keys?
wireless, quiet, multidevice, as light and slim as possible, full size
I want a less retarded key layout like a space between Esc and F1

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>>107942251
>What is a mechanical equivalent of mx keys?
>wireless, quiet, multidevice, as light and slim as possible, full size
Literally the mx mechanical.
>I want a less retarded key layout like a space between Esc and F1
No idea then

>>107933891
I got a repro one but you have a leftist meme tier amount of words
in the model f text, delete everything except the first or maybe the first two sentences

I wish there was a version of Charybdis but with a finger trackball (i.e. above the thumb cluster)

does the aula f75 come with a switch puller?
if not what can i use to remove them?

>>107937135
aliexpress. YMDK has some good sets (been on my keyboard for years).

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i want a keyboard that doesn't have a fucking computer inside of it making the buttons get all weird and requiring me to reset. i can't get this fucking thing to work anymore one of the shift keys doesn't work and resetting doens't fix it so im about to smash it. very cool reliable mechanical dumbass garbage fuckass

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>>107943292

lgbt lights pissing me off = FUCK YOU

computer inside rearranging the buttons and pissing me off = FUCK YOU

broken ass goddamn shit for $150 = FUCK YOU

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>>107943292
>>107943385

my tofu 65 v1 from 2020 still going on strong

>>107942554
A switch puller. They're dirt cheap.

>>107943424
Based Tofu.

>>107943292
Get the F1-8X V2.
It has nothing inside it except the PCB.
No software, no wires, no BS.
Get your G on

>>107944301
yeah but i get the keyboard tomorrow and i dont want to wait another day to fuck around with it

>>107933891
Made in America by Americans vs some toxic trash made in some shit hole by slaves.

>>107944319
You'll just have to wait.
>>107944342
>made in America
>2026
get with the times, faggot.

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Gehirn

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Synovia

>>107944437
>get with the times
oh yeah i forgot we're living in nightmare world where boomers sold away all of our prosperity to make pennies. let me just compete with sweatshops and suicide nets

i don't want a keyboard i have to assemble myself i already know how to solder because im not a baby

>>107944649
Don't be a bitch, then. Assembling is half the joy. Get your G on
>>107944536
Now that's cope. Every single endgame keyboard today is made in China.

>>107932411
i bought the g901 or whatever and the keys are so sensitive i spend more time deleting letters than typing them out,

>>107945045
take the mx black pill

https://youtu.be/IU4ByUbDKNc

>>107944934
>Don't be a bitch, then. Assembling is half the joy. Get your G on
this would be true if i was a little baby faggot who thought putting these together was some kind of mysterious adventure but its not

>>107945185
If you can't be bothered to put in one hour of effort why should anyone here have to read your whiny faggot posts? You're not one of us, so fuck off

>>107945185
Go zen about it in your mind. Enjoy it even if it's no mysterious adventure.

>>107945045
>>107945048
Based MX Blacks enjoyer.

>>107942251
One of those scissor switch Keychron B keyboards

Baion bad

Actuating MX Blaecks

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Here's your 1:1 GMK clones bro

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Pay the fuck up and get the real deal.

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So fucking hot

The north-south wobble on the YIKB stabs are atrocious.
Fucking dogshit won't work with most keys anyway.
Always sinking left and right when it's not wobbling north or south.

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are the quality of these deskpads from deskpads.gallery any good? they get shilled a lot and while some of the design choices are questionable, but others seem ok

>>107946966
Get something from Aliexpress

>>107943292
>i want a keyboard that doesn't have a fucking computer inside of it making the buttons get all weird and requiring me to reset.
That's not possible with any USB keyboard. For that matter I'm not even sure it's possible with a PS/2 keyboard but I don't know for sure.

>>107946966
They're all the fucking same. The only time quality matters is if you're gayming (Artisan Hien) or if you specifically want a felt pad (keebmat or whatever it's called).

>>107947221
None of these issues are real. His keyboard is probably a rust bucket.
He needs to throw it out and go custom.

Alu

mini

What side-lighting keycaps for a full sized black keychron q6 max?

>>107948180
Anything you like. Anything from Amazon. There's no quality premium or brands to consider for side-lit keycaps.

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>let's change the colours around a bit
>here's your totally different kit bro
>that'll be $499

Baion says GMK screwed up Nerve.
Baion bad.

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GeON OnLY

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I MEan GMK onLY

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>$200 mech and the usb port became unsoldered on it
>$150 mech and the left shift key stops working
>$90 bluetooth mech from alibaba and the connection drops every few minutes and its unusable
>$50 bluetooth mech from alibaba and the connection drops still and its unusable
>$10 and pic related still works 20 years later

>>107932411
how do you live without the super keys

>>107948798
Geon only mmkay

>>107948787
That's nice, dad.

>>107948787
>i don't use alibaba crap!
>only bargain bin dell keyboards
Strange little man you are.

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Auto Geon Ejaculator moment.

>>107947280
use case of felt?

Trouble in paradise. My Lichicx raw silent tactiles have developed a bit of spring crunch, which is more noticeable on this kind of switch.

I've never done anything with the springs on these, they're still dry. What do you guys (particularly those of you who have used silents long-term) recommend? I have Tribosys 3204, Krytox 205g0, and 105. Should I bag lube with 105, donut dip with one of the greases, or lightly brush the ends with one of the greases? I tried donut dipping one switch with 3204 and lightly brushing the other with it, and the donut dipped switch had more crunch eliminated, but that was minutes ago so I don't know how that will hold up over hours/days/weeks/months/years.

>>107950323
Bag lube with 105, don't be afraid to go heavy
I don't like donut dipping because theres always a non zero chance I get some lube in the hole while putting the spring down.

>>107950141
Nothing. Just a different look and feel compared to the usual desk mats.

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Geon hoohooohoooo

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I am about to drop 570 leaf loons on a MoErgo Glove80 after experiencing debilitating nerve pain in my right hand for the past two weeks
someone talk me out of it

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>>107946415
that t without a serif at the bottom stares intensely at (You)

>>107951738
Do it faggot

>>107951738
i own a dygma defy so I can't judge

>>107951789
None of them have a serif. GMK is sans-serif.

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>>107951738
I could make you a dactyl considerably less. Things like the angled thumb cluster make more sense imo. That said you should do things like talk to a doctor, or adjust the rest of your setup so you can type with a proper posture first before plonking down a few hundred dollars on a new board.

>>107951946
damn thats sick it kinda looks like some galaxy pattern

>>107951959
The filament is prusament galaxy black so yea that checks out.

>>107952100
i will beat the shit out of you if i ever find you

>>107951902
dygma balls

What happens when you reach endgame? Do you start all over again and hoard a million F1s or do you accept the emptiness and neck yourself?

>>107952377
i kinda reach "endgame" with my idobao80.... i dunno I want my next kb to be something "new" not just another 75% 65% layout. like something with a cool quirk, like i saw a 65% i think, with like an extra space at top for f1-4 (i forgot what it's called), like something like that, something that's just another standard brick.

>>107952377
You start discovering things wrong with your "endgame" board and just continue to get more and more neurotic and picky

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>>107937135
shenpo are good and cheap
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004124258598.html
mods are a touch fuzzy but i like them

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>Baion
>Lichicx
>Topre
I love trans girls.

>>107937814
I appreciate the Type Rs and love the lack of pre-travel but using them for a few weeks has reinforced that I like linears much more lol.

Coomed hard to MX Blacks

>>107944524
clean y2k look

>https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1alt71r/pbtfans_keycaps_quality_and_retro_100/
LMAO
no wonder there's no PBT sets at endgame tiers

>>107952710
hammerworks crp

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>>107952710
PBTfans caps are not pure PBT either. You can also nitpick GMK to death in the same way.

>>107952727
based crp poster

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Fuck you Geon
I'm using a numpad on your stupid fucking TKL
got my G on right here

MX Blacks on Alu fuck YES

Baionzilla

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>BFMA?
BFMA.
>AILI?
I so fucking liked it.

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Best keyboard I've ever used, and I tried thinkpad t430 keyboard and some random mechanical my friend owns (I dont rember which one)

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I finished my pcb and sent it to jlcpcb a few days ago. I based it on the Silakka and basically just moved a few keys around (more pinky stagger and moved the thumb area out) and adjusted the outline. I think I now know enough about KiCad to do the next design completely from scratch but for now this should be enough.

>>107954115
iktf

>>107954124
Sexy af

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>>107951738
I have one and never liked it. kept thinking "well I just have to practice and get used to it"
got the cyboard imprint and it's miles better than the glove in both comfort and function. the only thing is if you really need it to be super flat, it can't do that.
I don't have any issues with my hands or wrists so it's hard to gauge how important the whole flat thing could be. I just know that preventing injuries is much more effective than dealing with them after the fact. Plus, the concept with these things just makes sense.

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>>107952377
you just get on with life and wonder why you still even bother entering these gay ass threads anymore

>>107954327
>get on with life
what life?
I'm possessed by it.

Baion's gonna cut you down.

>Budget
150-250 EUR
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
Silent tactile
>Layout
ISO or ANSI.
>Form factor
75-80%
>Backlight
>Previous/current keyboards
NONE. All I used are Thinkpad keyboards.
I will play with changing switches, BUT I WANT A GOOD/GREAT/BEST keyboard base.
Dont care about luxury bs. Just a very good solid keyboard base.

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>new model f beamsprings have normal MX stems for keycaps
Fuck.

There goes my tax return.

I've actually got quite a few mech boards but I feel like none of them are that special (except for my refurb'd Model M and Dell AT101W that I stole from a job).

>>107954874
Here you go
https://monacokeys.de/en/search?q=tkl
get the Tofu or Neo
https://deltakeyco.com/products/lichicx-raw-silent
get this switch

>>107956396
That's nice, dad.
Maybe dip your toes into more current offerings vs shit that came out during the Clinton administration

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holy shit
there's also this bad boy

Reminder that Unix layout is objectively and undeniably correct.

>>107956486
I'm saying anything newer I have is also not that special or remarkable as mech keybaords go.

>>107956631
Based Alps Chad

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Has anyone bought from gmkkeycaps.com before? I'm interested in a GMK DMG clone that's listed on their website but I can only find that color on this listing https://gmkkeycap.com/product/173-keys-gmk-dmg-bingsu-cherry-profile-double-shot-keycap/ and only under a SKU labeled "wob" at the end of the list. I don't think it's actually WOB because they have other WOB/BOW listings on the site that actually show WOB in the picture, but I can't be sure and I don't want to order Game Boy keycaps and get a white set instead.

How long until we get TMR and HE boards that aren't just the usual ANSI/QWERTY 60 - TKL range of shit? I use a LP ortho split because it helps me manage my very limited space and comfort better, but seemingly NOTHING exists like that with modern tech, even for something Planck/Preonic-like. There are a handful of low-profile magnetic boards, but they're all in standard layouts, and those hurt to use. Fuck, I can't even build from a kit or whatever. It wouldn't matter if durability/reliability of mech switches wasn't so dog-ass.

>>107956629
Based, if you don't use r3 control you're a normie

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>>107956814
lmao don't ever buy shitty ass clones, you'll regret it.
Get some other keycap set that isn't a clone, and never buy from that dumb website.
Alternatively, man up and buy a used set or a new set from GMK. Stop chasing clones and fakes, you deserve a blowie.

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1500g springs what the FUCK
bottom me out on that fuck my ass

>>107957182
Putting bed-springs in my keyboard for the ultimate tactile thock

>>107944319
got the keyboard, it came with a switch puller
ripped out all the switches and put hmx toast's in them
night and day difference to my old kb

>>107957360
Fuck yeah
based HMX enjoyer
have fun anon

Opinions on Gateron Type R's?

>>107957669
someone just posted them ITT
ctrl + f

>>107932411
Baby Kangaroo V2, opinions? is it better than MX Clear, is there something similar or better out there?

>>107957736
>i like linears more :3
SHIT FEEDBACK
NEED TACTILE ENJOYERS

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>>107957669
They are really good. They feel like you're pressing rocks under your fingertips, the tactility is beautiful.
Unrelated note but I've been meaning to post this here for a while as a PSA. I'm sure everyone knows it already but seeing the difference like this really drives it home.
Top pic is the switch installed in a hotswap PCB while it was still mounted in the case (my F1 here). Bottom pic is the same switch installed in the same PCB except it's outside the case and I've got my forefinger pressed against the hotswap socket on the rear. The difference speaks for itself.
Never install switches in hotswap PCBs without taking it out of the case, and always stabilize the hotswap socket with your finger when installing or removing a switch.

What is the type of sound these switches make called? poppy?

https://voca.ro/1j6WlU730wtb

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>>107957873
FUCK YOU ZOOMIE
LEARN TO SOLDER LIKE A MAN

all you need is MX Blacks on Alu
lubed and filmed and spring-swapped
SOLDER IT LIKE BAION SAID

CHERRY CHERRY CHERRY CHERRY CHERRY

>>107957360
man this piece of shit is starting to piss me off
the software is so fucking bad
>dont have german keys with the standard software
>the special iso-de online only version deletes other random keys
>cant even alt tab anymore
fuck you chang

#1 argument in favor of tactiles imo is that linears will make you totally neurotic about any perceived lack of smoothness in the switch travel. I'm using linears right now to break them in for a friend's build, and at first they felt great but the more I use them I'm not sure if it's a factory lubing that's redistributing or I'm just getting pickier but I'm beginning to feel like the stroke is a little obstructed and I just keep getting less and less happy with the state of them.

>>107958861
You bought a Chinese closed source firmware ANSI board with the expectation you could add German keys to it? Are you retarded? Nobody in this thread would ever have recommended that to you if you had stated this use requirement

>>107958910
they sell a ISO-DE version
its not an ansi board
their shitty software defaults to ansi and you have to use some fucking online version of it which is still ansi but atleast has some german keys

>>107958934
>they sell a ISO-DE version
Did you buy that?

>>107959060
nah i got the iso-es version since that was the only one in black

>>107959091
So it didn't even function as an ISO-ES board when you got it? Because the keyboard language layout is determined by your OS and not the keyboard firmware, so in theory it should have just worked out of the box right?

>>107959119
nah it works out of the box
the problem is that i have to rebind right control because i need right alt and the fn key
but if i rebind then the software overwrites some other random keys and they stop working

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>>107959145
Sorry for calling you retarded. Epomaker does have a bad reputation for firmware, but even I wouldn't have expected it to be that bad

>>107959145
okay i made it work somehow???
man fuck this
hope i never have to mess with it again, if the typing wasnt so nice i wouldve sent it back

>>107932411
Is it true that Chinese keyboards have onboard firmware to capture keystrokes and send them back to communists?

>>107958910
What linears? I honestly never had this issue with any of my pre-lubed stuff. It's not Keygeek, is it?

>>107959228
I've had it happen with many linears. The last two times were Tecsee and Gateron. This time... I'd rather not say until I'm sure it's not just my imagination.

>>107959223
100% correct. You can disrupt this by typing the following manually, then they won't record you anymore.
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How many WPM could you do and was it really necessary to have a π key?

>>107959223
You can verify this yourself instantly with Wireshark

Long story short, no, if that were true you can bet Dell and other OEMs would have already had that shit on every office membrane keyboard ever fabricated, way more valuable data that's way easier to get ahold of than trying to trojan a keylogger into QMK firmware or even a "dumb" microcontroller for a mechanical keyboard

>>107932411
is that a boy?

>>107959172
No qmk/via no buy.

>>107958190
marbly creamy clacky thock

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>>107959317
Get your G on

MX Blaecks

>>107959298
Oems would be tested by a major company
Who is testing and monitoring what niche keyboards do in a tiny market

>>107959982
Obviously the assumption is Dell or other OEMs would be the ones doing the data-selling if they thought they could get away with it, anon-doko

"Your shitty Chinese mech is KEYLOGGING YOU!!!!" is paranoid conspiracy theory

>>107959982
These things are impossible to hide.

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/mkg/ I need some help
I have a Blackwidow v4 75% (I dont know better)
im getting key chatter (no input double inputs) Ive seen people have success replacing the switches but ive also seen people throw the oranges in other boards after and they work fine.

My question is it the PCB or the switches? considering its a 200 dollar paperweight after less than 6 months of use If I could fix it and maybe mod it a little that would be a nice consolation

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>Norbauer designs are retro-futurist meditations on alternate history, for those of us who still long for that fading reverie. They come from a happy parallel 21st century, where computing equipment didn’t yield to cheap manufacturing methods and where our hopes for the promise of the personal computer endure. Join me on a wistful voyage of rediscovery: to a forgotten future, and the ultimate in computing luxury.

>>107960351
>is it the PCB or the switches?
Impossible to tell without testing both. You will need a multimeter.

>>107960351
Is it hotswap? Remove and insert the switches again, but only after unscrewing the PCB from the keyboard. See if that helps.

>>107960384
>>107960379
Ill try that it seems to be a super common issue with the razer orange switches I might just pick up a set of Jupiter bananas and swap them all worst case I have another keyboard they can go into. that I was gonna mod anyway. Thanks for the help

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I love this board so much.

>>107960351
>is it the PCB or the switches
Take a switch that doesn't work, swap it with a switch that does work. See if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it was the switch. If it does, it may be the PCB.

The spacebar goes deep on this one, no foams ofc
>https://voca.ro/1eJ3ONaqGlGk

You know what I haven’t seen so far. Hobbyist with their TGRs, Singas, and Keycults complaining that they don’t think GMKs are worth it and would rather use clones or keycaps from unknown manufacturers.

>>107961646
its always from the keychron thock gang

I've still never bought a set of GMK (MTNU doesn't count) because they haven't run a kit that suited any of my boards since I first got into this hobby a couple years ago

>>107961803
Unless you're looking at your keycaps under a microscope to check for imperfections, GMK is wholly unremarkable as a keycap manufacturer anyways. I do see MTNU as a high-brow answer to Akko ASA, or a low profile answer to MT3, though.

>>107961803
I'm still waiting until MTNU sets come with an ergo kit myself.

>>107962018
I don't know if that's true. My MTNU set made a very strong impression on me by the depth of its colors and regularity of its shape.

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Speaking of MTNU I'd really rather they have a BOW/WOB or some other basic bitch color scheme available at all times just so people can try the fucking profile. Group buy/limited stock only sucks.

>>107962082
True. To add I'd take an ergo kit that was just blanks if it helped get it out the door more easily.

>>107954124
Neat. Post pics when you get the PCBs

>>107962082
BoW would be nice. Never seem to be any good PBT BoW sets around

>>107954874
tofu tkl with hmx blue stars

>>107952514
shenpo is perfect, thanks anon

>>107957669
For me I think they're overhyped and you can't tell the difference between most other modern tactiles that already aped U4Ts and pandas. Not surprising because Type-R's have the exact same force curve as several previous tactiles... just with the 0.3mm of post travel cut out, whoop dee doo. Shit you wouldn't notice when actually typing anyway
Also louder and personally a bit more grating to me than even rattly clickies because they are higher pitched sounding in a similar way to fingernails tapping on a tabletop.
Zeal needs to get on that new switch that's supposed to be SKCM Brown inspired I've heard about, instead of being a coffee faggot or whatever he's doing nowadays.

>>107954874
https://deltakeyco.com/en-ca/products/lichicx-raw-silent
https://deltakeyco.com/en-fr/products/neo80-keyboard-kit
https://deltakeyco.com/products/pre-order-dcs-wob
Ok it's over budget, whatever. Beautiful keycaps, great switches (if you're ok with small bump), pretty good keyboard. And all in-stock from the same vendor.

>>107962018
>GMK is wholly unremarkable as a keycap manufacturer anyways
nice cope

No one else is spending the time to make intricate double shot molds for novelties for sets like Kaiju or Mictlan. No one else has the same breadth of colors in double shot keycaps either. The knock-offs are all poorly dye-subbed keycaps where the color fades halfway down the side of the keycap and the colors aren't close to begin with.

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seethe

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BFMA

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AILI

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>Budget
~$50
>Location (continent at least)
SA
>Preferred switch type
Linear > Tactile
>Layout
Indifferent
>Form factor
100% > 1800 > TKL
>Backlight
It would be nice if I can turn it off, or at least a single color like white
>Previous/current keyboards
ThinkPad's
I'm beginning to slowly build a real PC and eventually retire this stinkpad, but I'm not really in a hurry for better specs so I am just looking to improve QOL instead
Already ordered 27" external monitor, wireless mice is next, wireless keyboard would be nice too but I imagine it won't be possible in this budget range (actually low priority compared to wireless mice)
I am a complete newfag to mechanical keyboards, but when I asked about it a while ago, the advice was to get the cheapest board possible and replace the switches with Gateron KS-3X47 for my use case (relatively light typing, some MMO and rhythm games)
I don't know if the advice is still accurate, but I guess I need the board to be 5-pin switch compatible?

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Is MSI Vigor GK30 good budget option? Wanted to try out mechanical keyboard, is plunger switches significantly different from membrane?

>>107964043
KS3s are goated so that's nice
and yes get a keyboard with hotswap compatibility, all the new ones support 5 pin switches.

>>107964098
If it's sub 50 buckaroos then you can try it. It'll feel different for sure

Where are people getting the wave75 for $100?

I did research and it said the rainy75 was the best keyboard to get, they had them on drop cheapest, but drop only has the white in stock and the other colors have been out of stock forever.
I then read the wave75 was better and cheaper, but I'm not find it it for the prices people are saying online, not on AliExpress either anyway.
I don't know what's better, they say evo75 but it's almost $200 that's a bit much.
I didn't see much mention of these in the archive here besides the rainy75 though.

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PREACH BROTHER

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based

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fuck me

Baion bad mmkay...Baion, really bad XD

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Round two, let's see if this DMG clone is more accurate on the alphanumerics. Purchased from "IPOPULAR", there's one or two Reddit mentions of successful sales from this site.

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>>107965971
Also if this clone doesn't measure up either, or I can't mix and match two sets into an accurate set, then I'm going to swallow my pride and just order the real set with my tax return.

>>107965971
BUY ONCE
CRY ONCE

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>>107966054
I did find what appears to be a Youtube video of the same set (O/X keys are the giveaway) and the alphanumerics are accurate, so we'll see. It's just up to the store to actually ship and deliver it at this point. Apparently the manufacturer is G-MKY, which either... doesn't exist anymore, or has gone even more obscure than when it renamed to Hyekit on some storefronts. Shame, too, because AFSA keycap clones of some GMK and KBDIY sets were really good, but it looks like those SA/AFSA sets do still persist on Amazon.

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>>107964043
>>107964341
>tl;dr Is picrel a good poorfag keyboard?
I can't find a budget 5-pin keyboard at all, only premium enthusiast stuff
I've been researching a little and it seems I could use a 3-pin board with 5-pin switches if I cut off the small side pins or something, I don't know if this is a smart idea
Not a fan of modding through permanently damaging something (wouldn't that make the switches useless if I were to get a 5-pin board in the future), but I could make a compromise, being THAT much cheaper, and the board has at least decent enough quality to last long
Is picrel any good? Are these Red Kailh BOX Switches a good babby's first mechanical keyboard?
It's somehow on a flash sale that ends in 9h on Ali ($60 -> $43 including import taxes), trying to find more options with this Special sale label but no luck so far
Other than that, there are plenty of Redragon options locally, some costing less than $30, which I could use for hot swapping modding purposes, but I read that they all use Outemu switches which are supposedly terrible and their boards not very widely compatible with modding (I'd need to destroy the entire fucking gateron switch just to make it fit)

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ooooof
Baion never misses (his refunds)

aaand of course his renders have splashed cum all over the fucking keys loooool
Baionsissy

>>107966271
>I've been researching a little and it seems I could use a 3-pin board with 5-pin switches if I cut off the small side pins or something, I don't know if this is a smart idea
It's perfectly fine, those plastic side pins are for increased stabilization on plateless keyboards. If your keyboard has a switch plate in any way, the PCB is only five-pin for compatibility.

>>107966070
https://kbdiykeycaps.aliexpress.com/store/1102037565/pages/all-items.html?productGroupId=40000007149010&storeId=1102037565
Found where KBDIY and all the "AFSA" keycaps they sold went!

Geon is a GOD
I need more Geon

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>>107966853
yarrrrr i gots literally three jokes and i tells them often, geonworks, baion and blacks on alu. out on the open sea there's nuffin' but a man and his three jokes for miles around

>>107966340
Thank you, that's reassuring
Is that specific model any good?
I've been looking for more options, but nothing really caught my attention so far

>>107967710
I remember hearing about Hexgears as a high quality brand but that was YEARS ago, they might be considered a dinosaur brand like Filco or Leopold.

>>107967710
GK705 is generally considered decent entry level for the price. The keycaps are shit and you may want to pull it apart and paint the red side panels it may have. Choose box browns instead of reds.

>>107960369
>where computing equipment didn’t yield to cheap manufacturing methods
Where is the numeric pad?

>>107968172
ESL?

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>>107967753
I see, I can't find and recent negative review, so I guess it is safe to give it a chance then
>>107967794
>Choose box browns instead of reds.
May I know why?
(It probably doesn't matter, but for top model there are only Red or White available, and for bottom model there's only Brown available.)

>>107968283
Browns are a better first switch to try.

>>107968437
That does seem to be a fairly popular advice
Actually it does make sense too, since I would be swapping them with Linear in the near future anyway
Alright, thanks, friends, I'm ordering the Hexgears GK705 now

>>107968283
desu if you still here i'd cancel the order and get the whites
ironically has both a better tactile and linear feel than brown and red respectively
and aren't obnoxiously loud as classic blues
box whites are widely loved for a reason

>>107968283
Reds are always ass.
>>107969504
Whites are clicky garbage.

if fullsize keyboards are (allegedly) for trannies, what's the preferredkeyboard of the chud?

>>107969989
"Stand-by" brands that you don't hear about because they actually are hopelessly outdated and expensive compared to modern offerings. Think Varmillo or Leopold.

>>107969989
Why would anyone listen to a troon's claims in the first place? Go buy whatever you want.

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I'd love to look like this.
Just to match myself with my future Geon.
It's not gay, it's just aesthetics.

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It's just how it should be.

>new board arrived this morning
>put my old switches (zilent v2) in until my type R's arrive
>forgot to get anything related to improving stabilizers
shiiiiiiiii

>>107970593
Improving them how?

>>107970608
literally anything like lube or foam stickers. i've never heard worse rattling

>>107970620
Just get knight v4s or the typeplus stabs, jeez. Save yourself the headache.

>>107970620
the stickers are trash, you don't need them

>>107969989
a $12 dell office board covered in cigarette ash and cum stains

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MX Clickiez

>>107970593
Knight v4 stabs, lube them normally with 205g0 like you would a cherry stab, and imo also get something like the c3equalz stabilizer soulmate kit, put the 0.3mm thick pads under the spacebar stabs and imo the 0.2mm under the other stabilized keys (spacebar needs the extra thickness)

I've tried Knight V4 and Typeplus and although I like both I found the Typeplus seemed a little more prone to binding, so they wouldn't be my first choice. And I haven't actually tried them with silent switches to be sure it's a good combo, whereas I have done a silent board with the Knights and I know they're good.

>>107971118
>the Typeplus seemed a little more prone to binding
that's probably because you're used to using truckloads of lube to get stabs to stop ticking. typeplus can get away with an extremely light coat of 205g. i think they even advertise that you can run them completely dry

>>107971285
>that's probably because you're used to using truckloads of lube
Oh is that probably what I did? Did I probably do that? What if I'm not fucking retarded, then is that still likely?

>>107971324
Stop eating the lube

>>107971339
205g0 is NSF H-1 certified food grade. As long as I keep it under 10 ppm it's all kosher.

>>107971324
i don't know man, you're the one with binding typeplus stabs

what do 60% linux users have tilde bound to?

>>107971395
Maybe you misunderstand what I mean by binding. I just mean the return feels very subtly sluggish on 2 out of 8 of the stabilized keys, and almost imperceptibly so on most of the others.

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>>107971399
when I use 60%, I use split backspace but grave (esc is esc on press, ~ on shift+esc and ` on alt+esc) is also common

>>107971428
any hints how to do shift+esc=~ without making a whole new layer for shift in via?
i had trouble making alt+4 = alt+f4 in via too, had to use powertoys keyboard tool but that wont work in linux

>>107971453
yeah, it's a common bind. like I said, it should be called grave. or maybe it's only called that in vial? I don't know but the bind itself is there somewhere, maybe under special. you shouldn't have to do anything funky with layers or anything like that to get it

>>107971460
thanks i will investigate

>>107971473
I just looked and there's Esc ` in via but it doesn't have the same behavior I remember. I could have sworn you could also get backticks and not just tilde. It might be a vial only thing or I might just be wrong.

>>107971507
just found it, that's ok i'll set backtick to fn esc or something, i don't use it much. thanks a lot!

>>107971324
Lmao

>>107971415
Use different switches. HMX long pole clackers fit perfectly with Typeplus stabs.

>>107971664
Well the switches I used with it are Cherry MX Browns and I think it's incumbent on the manufacturers of stabs to make sure they are in-spec to work perfectly with Cherry Brown, Black, etc.

>>107971671
In a ideal world, absolutely. But yes, I've had problems getting the best out of Typeplus with Cherry switches. KD200s are the best, I've found. Probably any HMX clacker will do it

>>107971686
I think you are confused. Cherry doesn't have to adapt to fit other manufacturers' products. They set the standard to which everyone else must conform. When Cherry switches are incompatible with, e.g., a keyboard plate, that means the plate is defective.

I don't think that Typeplus cannot work with Cherry, I would sooner blame my keycaps and the difficulties that always come with tight tolerances such as those they aimed for with these stabs. If I thought they were out of spec with Cherry switches I would simply call them worthless garbage. I don't think they're that.

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>>107954327
MEIN NIGGER.
42H1292 here.
I marrued to my IBM keyboard too because is literally the only pc keyboard i will need, same as this mouse i fix over and over because this is my 'dream team', and im loyal to them the same way we men always buy exactly the same deodorant forever because is just perfect.

>>107954327
Because you're actually unsatisfied

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HOLY FUCK

Baionzilla

>>107957815
>Baby Kangaroo
so then no tactile switch opinions?

>>107957815
Type R

Zinzinheimer

MX Blaecks

Is there a full size version of Kalih Ghost switches or something similar to those?

>>107973784
Kailh Super Speed Silver MX with O rings to bring the travel below 3mm
alternatively just get KTT Lightning with 3mm travel no modifications needed

>>107973963
Thanks man

I'm gonna let Geon lube my legs and cum all over my black nylon thigh highs.
It's the MX Black way.

oh no page 10...

>>107975850
Dw new thread is up, this one's past the bump limit.
Get your G on BIATCH

>>107976258
This one is not past bump limit, and it's customary to link the new thread in the old thread so people stop replying.

Bump to 310

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New thread wherever whatever >>107974485

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MX Blacks on Alu etc