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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
*On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcb/ for every use case and budget!
Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yem_iEHiyJ0
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tell it to me straight bros... is it over? did the prime bros win? should i have bought a ryzen 7800x3d after all?
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>>107934432
I manually set a bunch of my motherboard's voltage settings, it's as proactive as I can be.
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Someone pick a gaming PC from Microcenter please for me ? Something less than 2Gs
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>>107934449
Tell me your microcenter location.
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>>107934454
Chicago
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>>107934449
Okay but after I pick it I'm going to buy it and take it back to my house.
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>>107934464
PowerSpec G758
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>>107934470
>>107934464
and if you can't afford that, then PowerSpec G730
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Waitfagbros, what were we waiting for?

It should've been plainly obvious that data centers were eventually going to need to scale exponentially...
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>>107934480
>>107934470
>>107934464
Just realized the G730 is sold out at your store, so your backup in that case would be the PowerSpec G457 it has an intel CPU, but still a decent value for the price and the best prebuilt at that location for under $2k besides the G758 I mentioned above, which is $1999, so maybe beyond your budget

But in any case, buy soon, they'll raise prices very soon.
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>>107934480
>can't afford that
you mean can't afford to replace the cpu after it dies a horrible death outside of warranty. the 7800x3d is the reliable choice for reliable gamers. the 9800x3d is a tranny cpu meant to off itself just like the buyer after he realizes that he will never be a woman.
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I've narrowed down my choices to build a new computer with some Microcenter bundles, but I'm not sure which one to go for.
>ASRock Challenger 9070
>Ryzen 7 7800X3D
>ASUS B650E-E TUF
>Crucial Pro 32GB DDR5-6000
The total for these parts is about $1,050. My other choice is.
>ASRock Challenger 9070XT
>Ryzen 7 9800X3D
>MSI X870E-P Pro
>Crucial Pro 32GB DDR5-6000
The total for these would be about $1,450.
I'm going for a high end 1440p rig to play some modern games that I missed out on and I don't know if the extra $400 is worth it. Would I be missing out on anything by getting the cheaper parts? Any advice/opinions would be appreciated.
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My pc is re-assembled with the new parts.
Despite a strange coil whine from the psu when the computer is off and me ruining the thermal pad of the ssd's heatsink everything seems fine, only thing left is playing some games and see if the meme connector catches fire or not.
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>>107934432
Get a job spamposter.
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>>107934528
>>Despite a strange coil whine from the psu when the computer is off
I get this shit after gaming for long
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>>107934532
get a better cpu and board first. prime bros won. 7800x3d bros won.
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In that same boat with prebuilds, my budget is 1,700 anyone got picks from Newegg
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>>107934514
personally I would settle for the 7800x3d but get a 9070 xt from sapphire/powercolor/xfx
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>>107934534
it's your caps and coils shit talking you behind your back after your performance in ranked.
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>>107934514
what's your video card?
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>>107934542
You're just making up bullshit, fearmongering faggot. Net cafes in third worlds don't count.

>Forgetting 2 years of oxidation and microcode issues
I was using Intel before you assume loyalty, I just hate faggots like you making a 0.0001% factor into something bigger.
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>>107934563
intel is not the reliable choice for reliable gamers. that wasn't my point.
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>>107934554
>9070 xt from sapphire/powercolor/xfx
The cheapest one like that I can find is a 9070xt Reaper for $720. The ASRock 9070xt is $650 currently at Microcenter. Is it worth the extra $70 assuming I go with the 9070xt?
>>107934561
>what's your video card?
Currently a Vega64.
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>>107934489
i was in just after the second image when they went from ~150 to ~200 overnight like over two weeks before black friday
oh man i still can't believe how close i came to being the last image
I really was not taking it seriously for a while there
and another thing that whole thing about companies raising prices before black friday to lower them to normal price is a total fucking lie
Obviously it was NOT true for RAM, but it also wasn't true for anything else I bought on black Friday, the prices on black friday were either the lowest or one of the lowest all year, or there wasn't a price drop at all.
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>>107934578
i have the reaper and its nice, i can't imagine what I would pay an extra 70 bucks for regarding anything outside of the gpu itself. It has 3 fans, keeps cool, and doesnt make any noise.
maybe if it had a miku sticker on it...
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>>107934578
I'm not so sure, that's a big difference
If you're not missing any feature go for the ASSrock, I would probably pay the premium like a cuck because I'm paranoid
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>>107934554
wouldn't 9070 + 7800X3D be fine for high end 1440p?
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>>107934418
>Humiliation ritual poverty box for $1500 GPU
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>>107934629
9070 vs 9070xt. you can make your own mind up about the value proposition.
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>>107934617
Never used anything ASRock before. Are those lesser quality than the other brands?
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How much RAM do I need in a gaming PC?
I have a gaming PC, and a server PC, and because RAM is expensive right now I'm trying to figure out how to arrange the RAM I currently have across the two machines.
I have 2x16GB in the server, and 2x8GB + 2x32GB in the gaming PC, so in other words I have 16GB + 32GB + 64GB to play with.
I've been hard pressed to find any game that actually needs more than 16GB of RAM, and I only ever play with just the game itself open and nothing else (the gaming PC is just for gaming, all my other computing happens on Linux laptops). On the server I'm going to be running lots of different containers, and also doing some filesystem stuff that will require a fair amount of RAM, so really the more there the better, and the quetsion comes back to how many GB of RAM I should have in my gaming PC.
Thoughts? 16GB in the gaming machines and 96GB in the server?
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>>107934629
>wouldn't 9070 + 7800X3D be fine for high end 1440p?
the 9800x3d is 100$ more expensive but runs on the cheapest chinkshit cooler
why do people still consider ryzen 7000x3d?
cucked thermal, cucked multiplicator
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Avoid underclocked 9070XTs.
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>>107934639
oh ok. guessed that the 9070 would roughly be 14 to 17% behind the 9070 xt. value wise nowadays is more widening though...
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>>107934661
the challenger is always their cheapest model, if you're buying a low end card it probably doesn't matter but on the upper range I would rather have something better
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>>107934684
Some autist on here is now obsessed with the recent 9800X3D dying reports coming out and is insisting that it MUST be a batch issue from AMD or some larger issue with 9800X3Ds in general, despite the relatively small number of people who have had issues.
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>>107934702
no i just like to dunk on republic of gaymers scum. nothing more to it.
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>>107934702
feels good living in a land where manufactureres are forced to uphold two years warranty
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I recently changed my second screen to a random DELL IPS that I got from work. Both my screens are 1080p still, my main monitor is that AOC 24G2U5 (75hz model) that I got like 6 years ago. I'm fine with 1080p, but the dell monitor from work seems to have better colours. Comparing the same image on both, the colours just pop a little more and especially images/scenes with a lot of black look way better. However, it's only 60hz. But now I'm getting slightly annoyed at the colour difference and my main screen feels like everything is slightly washed out colour wise.

So I was looking at monitors specifically for colours. Am I right in thinking that I'll probably want to go with mini-led or Oled? From what I'm reading I'm leaning toward mini-lead, because I spend most days in games and programs with a lot of static UI elements.
Also, I'm getting the feeling that 27 inch screens are kind of the standard now? I'm not seeing many options for 24 inch mini-led or oled screens, if any at all. The 27 inch monitors also seem to come in 1440p mostly it seems. Is my 5060ti & R5 5700 combo going to struggle with that if I'm aiming for like 100 fps? I don't play many games where high framerates are really needed.
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>>107934723
get a super duper ultrawide
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>>107934716
I mean, I haven't even heard issues with people getting warranty replacements even in the US, it's just annoying for them to have to go through the effort.

So yeah, it's not even really a big problem, but mountains out of mole hills, per usual.
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>>107934723
It's a waste of money to buy anything under a 40 inch OLED.
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>>107934744
true because they font are going to look shit on either display with current tech. at least you get a tv out of it were it doesn't matter.
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>>107934723
>Is my 5060ti & R5 5700 combo going to struggle with that if I'm aiming for like 100 fps?
dlss and don't tell me you won't run it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw1Ly7-nVzc
for accurate colours it's old unless you have $30,000 for a pro grade IPS production monitor
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>>107934738
>but mountains out of mole hills, per usual.
i was one of the unc's with a first gen ryzen chip that crashed some linux compiler kek, i remember the shit flinging
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>>107934723
>mini-led
it's a scam
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>>107934835
>acer
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>>107934716
Only 2? I thought CPUs had 3 years as standard
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>>107934563
nigga thats a copypasta the jeet spams every thread just report it and ignore don't shit the thread up by giving it the time of day
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>Mini-LED
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>No S-tier 32"

I suffer
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>>107934489
at this point, buy a prebuilt 5090 or double down and wait for 6090
anyone who actually wanted a pc desperately already bought no?
I was just waiting and thinking if I REALLY need a desktop and have time for it right no, so no buy
the meta right now is simple, stop neeting, get off your ass, flip burgers for 18 months, buy 6090 on release
and you will finally be on the forefront of the GPU housing market
sell 6090 on 7090 release (3 years later btw, longer release cycles from now on) for an appreciated or same money, the more you buy the more you save, screencap this for proof later
there is no escaping

>>107934723
>colorcuck
QDOLED is your only option anything else will be a step down

>>107934911
shit list based on assumed pricing and other retard metrics
TVs are 10 years ahead so they should be SSS+ tier
it's over
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>>107934964
What OLED TV did you buy for your PC
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>>107934981
Not him, but LG G5.
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Would a 9070xt pair well with a 5600x? I was worried about bottlenecks, but I've been looking at some benchmarks and a lot of the games I want to play seem to be at 60+fps at 1440p. If I can get by with just upgrading my GPU, PSU, and monitor, I'd be pretty happy.
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>>107934964
The 6090 is dead anon
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>>107935027
It's not ded it's going to be expensive.
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>>107935004
But that's not qd-oled
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i spend almost every free minute i have sitting on my pc so honestly it doesnt matter how expensive pcs get ill always build them.
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>>107935066
I don't like fringing text.
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I am asking again for the existence (or lack of thereof) of any ray tracing game containing large amount of transparent object with refracted light.
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>>107935096
weird fetish anon
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Curved OLED monitor suggestions anyone?
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>>107934666
If you have it already just test it. Start with 16 max and if that’s not enough switch to 32
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>>107935096
Cyber punk is current peak Ray Tracing and even it doesn't have many refracted lights.
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To the anon last thread lamenting 5070ti’s: monitor Best Buy’s website for a day or two, they will pop up occasionally at msrp but you have to buy quick or they will get scalped in minutes
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is a 5080 really worth an extra $450 over a 5070 if im at 1440p
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>>107934723
>if I'm aiming for like 100 fps? I don't play many games where high framerates are really needed.
L4d2? 10000 fps easy
Wukong? 10
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>>107935159
If you can get one near MSRP I would. You can resell it for profit later.
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>>107935159
No.
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>>107935159
the 5080 is a substantial improvement but the difference probably won't start paying dividends at 1440p for at least a couple more years.

Considering we might be in for literally a 5-6 year pc winter may as well bite the bullet on the 5080 just to be safe

or the 5070 ti
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I don't really get why the US isn't making more fabs if there truly is a computer parts shortage.
>b-but muh factories take 5 years to set-up doomerism
If the shortage is projected to last for a decade, someone should probably start building more fabs now. LLMs obviously aren't going away but their consumer base will dwindle and will opt out if the hardware shortage problem isn't solved.
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>>107934418
Do you guys put the motherboard in the case before adding ram/cpu/M2 or do you do it in the cardboard box?
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>>107935129
msi curx or cup
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>>107935216
Because the memory companies don't WANT to build more fabs if the AI bubble bursts in 3 years then they're left holding multi-billion dollar foundries with no customers.
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when?
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>>107935159
I don't think so, no. ti maybe, but even then. Eh.
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You can go to the nvidia app, global settings activate DSR factor and select 1440p and you'll see how your setup does at 1440p, personally i think you'll be fine if you use DLSS, it will actually look much better , DLSS performance at 1440p looks better than DLSS quality as 1080p, lastly reemember to OC/Undervolt your card for easy 10% extra in all games without extra power or increase temperature is really easy you just need to download msi afterburner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyejyMt0u9A
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>>107935292
meant for >>107934723
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>>107935124
>>107935143
Reflections can be convincingly approximated with the likes of cube mapping or screen space reflection, refraction is mostly represented with a shiny opaque crystal, it would wow me much more seeing some of these in real time, with the world behind the object morphing.
Looks like there will still be some time before that happening.
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>Waitfagbros, what were we waiting for?
For new GPU releases to either introduce something I want or push down prices of old cards. Hopefully ClosedAI crashes and burns in the meantime.
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can someone post the pic with the cats face being pulled back
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being a poor neet does really suck because i shouldn't be trying to shave off $200 from my build when thats just pocket change to a regular person
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>>107935246
Are they fucking retarded? People ARE going to want memory if everyone discovered they can train and run LLMs locally. Large datacenters will collapse but the demand for memory will still be there. The subcontinentals currently running Silicon Valley can't think of second and third order consequences of what the fuck they're doing.
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>>107935246
It actually has nothing to do with that, new fabs are being build but they take time, so they'll be reayd in 2027 h2 . The thing is we are about to move to DDR6 which is expected to launch also on 2027 and will be mainly for enterprise customers so it make no sense to go all in trying to create enough fabs to satisfy both customer and enterprise ddr5 needs when the market is about to decouple them when enterprise cutting edge gets moved into DRR6
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>>107935159
For video games I don't think it's worth it.
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Thank you for making me buy a new SSD before this shit went insane.
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>>107935322
Intel.
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what 2 hdds do i buy for my NAS i bought
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why the fuck did I even buy a 5070ti, I don't even play modern games
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>>107935442
Generate porn
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>>107935442
Resale. It's an investment.
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>>107935442
For me it was
>i need 16GB VRAM
>I need 16GB VRAM
>I NEED 16GB VRAM
>buys GPU
....
I did not need 16GB vram

and now its starting again
I need a 4k oled monitor
I NEED A 4K OLED MONITOR
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>>107935328
Try not to think about it. You can run windows unactivated indefinitely.
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>>107935461
just use massgrave and activate it
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I can't find any 5090 under 3K no more, is it over for me bros?
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>>107935442
Local AI image/video generation
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>>107935442
>>107935457
>Kinda want to play some modern slop.
>Any significant upgrade will cost a shit ton.
>Any minor upgrades wont really be worth it.
Honestly unless the 9060xt goes for less than $300, I'll stick with my 6700xt till everything else gets cheaper/we all die.
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>>107935328
just buy it
there's zero point in shaving budget if you have it
just spend it
$200 is nothing even to a poorfag neet
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When is dedotated wam going to go back to normal
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>>107935472
>or me bros?
They've been pushing $3300-3500 for at least a month or two already anyway.
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>>107935472
surprised you can still find it for that cheap, they start at $4300 on newegg
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https://us.msi.com/Promotion/resident-evil-requiem-game-bundle

950 keys are left
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>>107935486
$3400 on Amazon
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>>107935472
You know what they say, if you can afford a 5090, you can afford to pay 3k
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>>107935478
You could try intel’s gpu’s
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what can I build with $2000 today? I'm not actually building a pc. just curious how fucked the market is
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>>107935552
You can buy a 5080.
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>>107935546
i think the b580 is slower than his gpu anon
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>Get curious and look up 5090 on Amazon
>See this
Something seems fishy.
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>>107935552
I use 50% budget goes to GPU and right now that'd buy a 5070ti, a couple months ago that'd bag you a 5080.

Of course that rule means nothing now as SSDs have double and RAM quadrupled so...maybe a 5070 is all you're getting now
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I fucked up and completely forgot about the VRM, so I got a 5900x for my b550 ds3h motherboard. How can I make it more stable?
I tried to lower the PBO params, but I'm still getting some crashes:
PPT: 142 W
TDC: 90A
EDC: 140A
Any other suggestions? When I try to match the PBO params to the 65W eco mode values someone suggests in the internet, its even more unstable.
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>>107935552
A used 5600x+4070 build would be on the table
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Lol the modern wraith stealth with full aluminium construction and zero copper heat pipes is hot trash
I tried using one on a 5800x3d recently and the CPU was idling at 75C and would spike up to 90C while only pulling 28W of power
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>>107935580
Zip tie a 120mm fan on the top left area of your motherboard where the vrms are located to cool it down.
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bros it turns out toothpaste isn't good thermal paste
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>>107935130
Good suggestion. I wanted to minimise how often I'm opening these machines up, but the server needs cracking open for a new drive anyway so I should just get on and do it.
Thanks.
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>>107935582
you are recycling, not building
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>>107935592
the wraith max is still one my favourite stock cpu cooler of all time. close second would be the intel extreme tower cooler from x58. i just wish they had non shit coolers for their cpus. i would love to have a giant amd or intel logo on my cooler. would go great with the whole build.
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>>107935616
the logo is just the wrong way.
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>>107935601
The temps show it doesn't go above 85C, and I don't have an stability issues actually when running multicore loads.
It tends to fail when doing single-core intensive work.
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>>107934666
24gb is good for modern gaming without needing to close background hogs ime, 32gb is good for casual dev with inefficient trash
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>>107935624
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>>107935616
I have one of the original wraith spires that came with the 2700. It has a copper slug and is much higher quality than the wraith stealth that came with my 5600 prebuild
Kinda wished I'd boughted the 2700x instead and have the wraith prism tbqh
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I somehow forgot you need ton of storage for loras and models and only bought big VRAM gpu last minute.
now I am stuck with 1Tb for next 5 years or so
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>>107935656
>wraith prism
they cost like 5$ on ebay here but the intel one was rare all the time.
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>>107935661
store in btrfs and enable compression
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>>107935442
hello other me
take a seat
welcome to the club
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Currently have
>Ryzen R5-1800X
>Radeon RX590 8GB GPU
>2x16GB DDR4-2666MHz
I was going to upgrade to the Ryzen 5800XT because it's $220 brand new right now, my motherboard supports it, and It's impossible to find X3D Chips on AM4 without paying stupid money. My question is how much performance would I lose because my RAM is only 2666MHz? What would be the best GPU to pair with this for the price? Intel Arc B580 12GB for $260, 9060 XT 16GB for $360, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB for $460? I'm gaming at 1440p.
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>>107935701
unless you are going to play cpu limited games the ram shouldn't matter all that much.
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idk if this is the correct place to ask for diagnosis, point me elsewhere if so
my rig recently started hard shutting off. no errors or warning, just hard power off like the plug got pulled. only two things i can think of are a cpu critical temp limit, or my power supply failing.
it cant be temperature, i have a readout in my taskbar at all times showing its fine
on the other hand, my power supply is several years old, 850w and running a 9070 xt and 5900x... am i beating it to death? ive ran this hardware on this psu for a year and it was fine until a week ago. hard shutoffs everyday.now, always when under load
i cant think of any other reason than this. both windows and linux have showed this behavior
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GTX 1080ti, am I going to have to upgrade for Onimusha Way of Sword and Phantom Blade Zero ?
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>>107935679
is that image real or ai?
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>>107935711
Improper / loose connections, problem with wall socket, there's a gremlin in your case.
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>>107935711
you psu is dead
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>>107935748
ill swap out the cord as a precaution and change the outlet just in case
hard to tell since the 850w should in theory just about still handle my pc. its 8 years old so maybe im asking too much of it
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>>107935637
24GB would be ideal for me, but I don't want to split up the paired sticks of RAM. Maybe I'll just pick up a 2x4GB set and not have to think about this anymore to get me 16GB + 8GB.
>without needing to close background hogs ime
I don't have any background hogs personally. This computer is used for just gaming and literally nothing else except watching video, which I don't have running while gaming of course.
>casual dev
Gonna offload that to my server but yeah I agree that's about right for anyone else wondering this.
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>>107935457
4k oled is wonderful for shaderglass familia.
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>>107935777
I hooked up a budget 4KTV (Not oled) to see what DLSS 4.5 ultra performance would be like and I wish I didn't. Not only did it look pretty good, shit was running above 70fps in every game I tried maxed out, even cyperpunk path traced.

Now I've been doing nothing but searching for what oled to get...I DON'T WANNA SPEND ANY MORE MONEY AHHHHHHH
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>>107935769
>>107935637
>my 4090 isnt enough for dev mode
HUH!?
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please help a retard. i want to build a pc with a 9070xt and 9800x3d. which motherboard do i go for?
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>>107935798
>4090
We are talking about RAM, not VRAM.
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>>107935358
The companies themselves have said they're NOT ramping up production as high as possible because they're worried about oversupply like they had post COVID where Samsung lost like $11B in one quarter due to oversupply.
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>>107935793
the only game you should have been testing dlss on is a latency testing camera. 4k is for CRT emulation I have an exbox huge 4k but i kind of wish I saved my money with the 27" 500hz slop coming to town.
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i got a free optiplex 3010, with a i3-3240, what CPU should I upgrade to? This website is telling me that for the best compatibility I should get the Intel Core i5-3470 but I need a second opinion.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Dell-OptiPlex-3010/2323
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>>107935807
oh, then yeah I have enough at 128 easy. (ddr4 dont get too excited)
the real problem with the ram spikes for me is I cant build a modern less intense htpc anymore. all my ram is registered and cant be set into consumer boards at all.
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This thread used to be full of people making gaming pcs and still is but now there are also lot of people who want to use their computer for AI.
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>>107934639
>200W vs 300W
>only 12% better
how does a 9070 XT make sense?
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>>107935799
b650e
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>>107935847
i'm trying to update my computer for star citizen, not ai stuff
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>>107935847
no refunds
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>>107935847
>/pcbg/ doomers cried of a dead general
>a guy came on here earlier looking for advice on his literal $90,000 PC
>said everywhere else online told him to rent a server and didn't help him

It seems this is the only place left for people looking to build a PC of any budget to get any advice
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nah it's clear this cyberpunk game is made for bigass 4K OLED screens
my IPS isn't cutting it
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Pulsar user reports trickling in, it might win after all if you wanna cope with a small screen
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>assembling pc for nephew.
>None of the leftover coolers fit.
>Case is really made for ITX boards
>Cutout on the back doesn't cover the full CPU backplate
>ATX standoffs don't fully screw in either.
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>>107935847
can you even create anything worthwhile with AI? other than crappy porn
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>>107935899
If it doesn't overheat
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>>107935908
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>>107935920
its a voice changer
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>>107935767
"Several" and "8 years" is quite different. Is it a 12v-2x6 card being used with its included PCIe adapter?
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>>107935908
that don't look like an itx case
matx maybe
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>>107935924
I'm not connecting cables before I've got everything in.
I should swap the RAM though!
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Is eye strain supposed to be a QD OLED thing? My WOLED is just business as usual for me. Also somehow less blinding to the eyes in the dark without changing brightness compared to a previous VA.
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>>107935936
Either way, it's a problem.
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text looks so sharp on my small 168 PPI side monitor it makes me unable to appreciate the 27" 1440p (that's a puny 109 PPI) main one
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>>107935930
im using a 9070 xt, which just has 8+8 pin PCIE. no adapter in use
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The RX 9070 XT prices have jumped tremendously in my country (roughly about a 250$ equivalent) in just these last 10 days. What is the situation in your country?
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The GPU I was gonna buy increased $300 now.
I am gonna rope bruh
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>>107936001
Some 9070s use 12v-2x6 connectors, that's why I asked. But we can cross out that possibility then. Culprit for a hard power off is still going to be somewhere along the power supply chain, total software crashes are going to produce some output (frozen screen, looped sound) rather than no power. Unless its something funny like a stuck power button.
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>>107936066
I will recommend you wait until either AI upscaling tech becomes better or we have a new generation of gpus from both Nvidia and AMD. I myself have a RTX 5080 combined with Ryzen 9950X3D, I cannot run most games on 4k Native RT without using DLSS (which ruins the experience as some pixels ghost, ignore the sloptuber). We just lack the proper tech right now. So wait.
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>>107936074
i use my power button once a month at most so it hasnt been used enough to get stuck, my pc never switches off kek
i swapped out the power cord at least. and no, literally no hint, error or crash leading up to the switchoff. literally the same as if you pulled the plug out. when it happened the other day, i put my hand to the back of the unit and it was pretty warm
gonna have to ask next, what PSUs are good to upgrade to? is seasonic still a reliable choice
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Just use DLSS 4.5 there's no downsides native (actually TAA blurfest) is even worse garbage
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>>107936044
>>107936061
>prices increase despite negative headlines coming from njewdia
>courtesy of AMDunboxed
lol even after steve slanders their competition so they can have a chance, they instead increase prices, AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity
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>>107935237
I do all that first as some of the M.2 heat sink covers are a pain to access once it's in.
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>>107935808
anon you need to stop listening to gamer nexus and MLID https://www.igorslab.de/en/micron-accelerates-dram-expansion-through-cooperation-with-powerchip/
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>>107936139
The Radeon division is full of double agents.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs

its funny how they make a good point about current gen amd being fine, even if its objectively worse than nvidia, but then go "oh and if you own last gen you're fucked so think about your life choices a bit more in the future"
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>the 5070ti I ordered on Jan 15th has already jumped up more than $100

thank god I just decided to buy it instead of waiting
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>>107936123
All the big names are still a reliable choice, another new Seasonic will do fine. Warm as in the fan isn't working and its the PSU shutting itself off for safety, or its really one step away from melting down warm-hot?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?pru=AAABnAfA1vE*sgPH0zF5CResSqAQ5lJAug#gid=1973454078
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>>107936139
*Tim
This time Tim cannot escape culpability as he did the entire video presentation.
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>>107935701
You can always try overclocking the ram to 3000/3200, maybe even all the way up to the 3600 sweet spot. Just dont go past 1.4v and don't be afraid to loosen the timings. There is somekind of ryzen memory app that lets you figure our the correct settings.
Also don't attempt such an overclock on the 1800x because newer gen Ryzen's have better memory controllers.
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>>107934578
I also have a reaper and can't believe how quiet it is relative to its size (it's a true two slots card)
told myself I would deshroud it but for the first time ever I don't really have to
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>>107936196
to be honest they are half right, main point of DLSS 4.5 outside of making 4k gaming performance better ( both preset work the best in 4k to be honest ) is to agressively up scale from really lower resolution to make pathtracing viable on lower end gpus, realistically the only GPU on amd side that can do entry 4k is the 9070 XT, and thats also the only one that has some pathtraced performance but its even 20% slower than a 5070 so you beg to question why would AMD make their FSR 4 model heavy to improve only ONE gpu on their stack right now, altough i think the real answer is they are busy doing PSSRR 2.0 update and making sure fsr runs on the exynos 2600 on the samsung phones
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>>107935922
>Asus
Ive never had a good experience with Asus. Id probably get one of the other brands. But after the price drops for these monitors to like 300-400.
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>>107936168
Won't be shipping DDR5 until Q3/4 of 2027 at the earliest, and it's likely intended for the AI market unless the bubble collapses between now and then.
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>>107936309
Anon DDR6 is coming on 2h 2027, stop listening to those retards, it will only hurt you they are just selling drama and hopium
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>>107936358
Retard, that's from YOUR article

> Micron notes that initial relevant production volumes are expected in the second half of 2027.
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>>107936363
its not intended for the enterprise or AI market because those will be moving to DDR6, as i said stop being a big overgrown baby and accept the reallity
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>>107936249
you know the temperature of a cup with hot water inside and the outside of the cup is mildly warm? its like that temperature
and the fan filter had a ring of dust so id take that as the fan still works
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I need to ask, do any of you guys get annoyed that front IO expansion is essentially dead? I get that having something like a blu-ray drive is essentially pointless (I only got mine because I have a big movie collection that I barely use and it still took me like two years to justify buying one) but it's not like being able to add extra USB ports or hot swap SSD bays on the front is pointless, my case literally didn't have support for USB-C and I realised the problem of needing to unscrew my SSDs everytime I needed to replace them.
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>>107936372
Lmao

"just trust me bro" nah I'm good.
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>>107936377
And by the same logic the inside of that PSU is probably pretty hot, especially since its components have a large air gap in between them and the shell unlike a cup. It's probably the PSU at this point. Don't skimp but at the same time PSUs aren't that expensive anyway. Give a new one a try and see if that resolves your problem.
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>>107936414
Yeah I was annoyed when I couldn't find cases that had more than two USB front ports. Never used any front drive bays but I think the cooler master case I had had one on top.
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>>107936414
>hot swap SSD
Not exactly hot swappable but I like asus' dimm.2 expansion slots that they include on their apex and extreme boards. It's come in handy quite a lot over the years
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>>107936414
Some of these cases are putting them on the bottom. It makes sense as some people put their PCs on the desk, they are called desktops sometimes, but I don't have that current luxury and have to put mine on the floor. But they can't be in the middle like they use to be because you need that for front fans these days.
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>>107935908
>>107935924
??????????????????????
assemble the cpu fan before putting it in the case
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>>107935342
> if everyone discovered they can train and run LLMs locally.
It's only few nerds. Use judgement, not wishful thinking.
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Can someone tell me what PSU to get for a 7600X 5070 build? I can't read these tier lists. There's gotta be one that isn't shit for $100
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>>107934418
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i fucking hate this shit. Just when I thought I should finally build a computer with relatively good specs, the AI faggots decided to double the RAM prices, GPU price became inflated(again).
Fuck AI
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>>107936526
Corsair RM850e Gold
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>>107936529
Tell me about it. I've been waiting to get a better job, compsci grad, but life continues to fuck me over apparently.
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>>107936529
kek, you think ram is expensive now?
personally I am concerned over HDD prices going crazy I think the sky is the limit there too
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I passed that used Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB deal and bought an used Samsung 980 Pro 2TB with heatsink for 27 USD more at 141 USD.
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>>107936580
Well I was talking about most components, SSD and HDD prices also soared. Fuck the AI.
I hope the bubble bursts so hard it fucks up the elites, but we've seen the bubble burst before, it's the consumer that foot the bill for their stupidity.
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>>107936587
That's the price I bought my 980 Pro 2TB brand new a couple years ago. But I also bought my 970 Evo Plus 2TB for $250 several years ago. These flash prices really go up and down.
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>>107936597
they'll get bailouts and we'll suffer
as usual
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>>107936603
Now I just need a 4TB HDD. But I'm out of budget. My 1TB and 2TB HDD is running out.
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>>107936633
they don't make them like this anymore
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>>107936637
You better find that budget soon because those have already been going up in price. Shit's ridiculous.
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>>107936637
HDD's are so god damn expensive right now, I'm so dumb for skipping the black friday sales, myself I am not out of storage yet but who knows how long this will take to resolve
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>>107936633
I might have had this one.
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>>107936644
well they still make this one. my problem was always the cpu cooler height with those cases. this one supports 160mm towers which isn't too bad.
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Is it just me or has SSDs become more expensive alongside RAM?
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>>107936633
Wow, yeah. I love cucking my airflow for some slow ass drives that would be faster on USB these days.
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>>107936682
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can’t like, the FTC do something about these corpos jacking up prices? :/
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>>107936677
they've about doubled in the last six months maybe more even
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>>107936690
lol.lmao.
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>>107936685
Probably tplink
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>>107936414
Are internal BDs better?
Seems like USB gen 2 has better transfer rates than SATA so no reason to buy an internal one. And event then it's better to use an external HDD plug(with no cover to allow 5.25 to plug) rather than worrying about a 5.25 bay.
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>>107936705
Maybe if you're frequently burning discs it's better but just reading them it's not really noticeable. I also don't occupy a USB port by attaching it with SATA and I don't exactly run the risk of knocking it over if it's part of the computer. I do admit that the thing is barely used and I mainly got it because I have a large disc collection I won't give up because I realise streaming is too unreliable. In most cases, it's probably best to use an external one. I have yet to use it to burn anything, the one scenario where I imagine doing that is create backups of my GOG EXE installers in case my other storage devices fail.
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>>107936685
that’s a man
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>>107936414
>>107936432
drives me nuts with all these flat-fronted cases. give me slots for whatever the hell i want to put in, give me extra USB ports, i will genuinely take a cd drive.
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>>107936526
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DT2V39K4
(A) 850W $100
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FF8K7CLD
(A-) 750W $90
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBX9VS3B
(A) 750W $95
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQVP6SS
(A+) 850W $100
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16817701033?item=N82E16817701033
(A-) 850W $110 with a $10 mail-in-rebate

Based on your specs, the above PSUs will be overkill, but opted for 750W/850W since that will allow you to re-use the PSU if you decide to upgrade in the future. All are very high quality units, the be quiet! ($95) and MSI units should be fairly quiet, as I recall the fan profiles are set to be as silent as possible. The be quiet! should have better build quality/protection features than the MSI units, but don't have access to the PSU database to guarantee that (whoever is hosting the database is down at the moment). Not familiar with the ADATA unit, so I can't say much about it.
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What's a pretty decent liquid AIO? I hear the Artic III is pretty solid. Anything else?
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>>107936414
It bothers me how some cases cut down on USB 3 A offering only a single port for some reason when the 3.0 connector can support 2 fully.
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>>107936587
I know my drive has more writes but surprised it's at 93% compared to yours. Came form the factory with the fixed FW too.
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Any case recommendations in the $60 range? I don't care about looks just want something that isn't junk
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>>107936509
Retard, do you know how many small and medium tier businesses are eagerly dying to set up their own hyperspecific industry LLMs but can't because of the shortage right now?
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>>107936895
fractal north is pretty good on the looks department
practal meshify 3 is probably the best for cooling perf
torrent is a bit old but decent
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what the hell is going on, hwbusters is down, cybenetics is down, I need to look up psus
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>about to buy corsair psu
>hear about recent corsair news
Great, now I feel like buying something else. And yes I know all companies are shit, but I try to at least get products from the least shit one.
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>>107936942
What happened with Corsair?
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>>107936942
The only PSU I've ever had die on me was a Corsair one so there's that
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>>107936947
>laid off a bunch of employees because they're trying to get into the "enterprise" business(AI)
>canceled orders on ram and nvme drives because the price was listed lower than the current market value and tried to play it off as some "error"
>laughable pr responses
They did fix some of the issues with the canceled orders and such but still. Oh and apparently their stock market value has been tanking which could mean that if you do buy one of their products, you may not be getting any support on it if something goes wrong if they go under.

>>107936986
Sounds good enough for me.
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>>107936942
I'm side grading from a Corsair rm1000i to a seasonic FX focus gold 1000w atx3.1 because their 12vhpwr solution is pretty bad. The split 8-pins dont like to be current balanced and are a huge melting risk
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>>107936986
Same for me, I had two PSU die on me, both Corsair.
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AMD Ryzen 7
32.0GB ram
ASRock X870 Pro RS
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
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>>107936988
nta but i don't see how that's relevant to the psus, though. if they're quality products, who cares if they're messing with their non-psu items?
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>>107935828
it's pure ewaste, maybe you can use it to create a usb installer for another PC if you don't have any other PC's.
not really worth buying a new CPU for unless you found the CPU for like $10 but I don't think it would actually fix big performance issues.
You are dealing with a PC that would run windows slower than a phone (and I think some android phones have displayport ALT-mode, and android 16 has desktop mode, which lets you use it like a chrome book?).
For gaming, the steam deck is still a valid option. But th steam deck has terrible perf, also not viable to plug as a desktop replacement since it lacks dp-alt mode, but windows handhelds like the legion go should support DP-alt and run a bit faster, but they cost a bit more than a steam deck).
if you want perf, new parts are usually better bang per buck than used (it's not, but we are talking about things being like 30% cheaper with the same performance, you are losing the 30 day return policy, the 1/3+ year warranty, fast shipping, and a 30% discount isn't even that good). Sure you pay MORE, you could pay $100 for a piece of used trash that gets 1/10th the performance of a $900 budget PC (a 5060 TI + 16gb of ram, or a slightly worse laptop, the macbook air is like $1000? $900 with a student discount, sometimes it's cheaper on other sites), but you get what you paid for.
The main issue with the old intel is no nvme slot (~10x slower speeds with sata, the speed actually doesn't matter as much as you expect, like whatever, bootup is 2x slower, but you physically can't use nvme ssd's, even if you get a pcie to m.2 adapter that usually works, and it will work, BUT you can't boot from it, since the bios is old and updates wont add it).
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>>107937014
I always heard Seasonic is good. I better look into them.

>>107937030
It's about the PR and customer support responses. They've fumbled the whole situation, and it creates a lack of trust.
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>>107934911
are you dumb?
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I'm looking to upgrade my monitor this year. I'm interested in high refresh rate, low latency, for gaming. I'm thinking 240 hz is good but I'm unsure about the resolution or panel type.
I have a TN and IPS monitors, and I prefer the TN with the brightness cranked all the way up to the point it looks a little washed out in some scenarios over my IPS monitor. the IPS has the problem of simultaneously being too dark to see things properly in shadows, and too bright to see things properly in light.
I have a 7800X3D and RTX 4070, but I may upgrade my GPU on the next-gen, which should be 2027 with the consoles.

any recommendations?
any good videos to get me all caught up with the pros and cons of the latest panel types?
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I'm so happy bros. I have been using my AM5 rig for a week now and it is perfectly stable, boots instantly, dead silent. The parts are :
Mobo :Gigabyte b650 eagle ax brand new 130 euros from Amazon
CPU : amd ryzen 5 8400F 75 euros used from vinted
Ram : 2 x sk hynix 8 gb SODIMM 5400 MT 47 euros used from Vinted
ADAPTERS : 2 brand new from Aliexpress 10 euros each
cpu cooler :, be quiet dark rock 3 used from vinted 20 euros

The rig came to 300 euros more or less, coupled it with an rtx 5060 brand new from Amazon for 269 euros (black Friday). I don't play the latest goy slop and this pc will last me a decade easy.
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>>107937114
Congrats. Am5 has been pretty stable for me too despite using supposedly cursed parts like an Asrock b650 mobo and 9800x3d and a 6000mhz 1.40v ram kit
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>reports on asus boards killing the 9800x3d
Is my 9800x3d going to be okay on the B650e asus board I got? I think I did get a warranty on it...
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>>107934633
You haven't seen shit.
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>>107937086
I guess I forgot to specify, I'm mostly interested in the good tech that I should keep an eye on for good sales this year.
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>>107937131
Worrying about a 0.001% chance of something bad happening is a waste of time. And there's a 2-3 year warranty to protect you from this anyway
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>>107937131
sooo, multiple reports of Asrock motherboards supposedly burning 9800X3D, and now reports of ASUS motherboards as well? At what point to you lay the blame on AMD? seems like a Ryzen issue here
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>>107937086
The new gsync pulsar monitors are interested if you have CRT clarity autism.
But it does not work for linux atm. So buying a cheap oled is probably fine. I think budget tandem woled's are worth waiting for.
OLED's are better for motion clarity and it's the only monitor that will make your monitor look better than your old one (especially for horror / sci-fi / DARK content, since all IPS displays have this glow when your whole screen is dark AND you are in the dark).
Here is a list of monitors, not sure when the cheap woled's will come out.
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
Gsync pulsar smokes OLED in motion clarity (but you might not feel the display "looks better", because it's the exact same tech). They have already released at around $750 (maybe stock isn't good).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXwXGYhi8_I
There is also mini-led, but it's not better than oled. But at $350, it's cheap, and it avoids that glow effect. BUT zones have artifacts that are more noticable in dark scenes in a dark room AND for web content, but you can disable local dimming. This monitor is only for the US (it might need a $30 vesa stand).
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn
There are cheap qd-oled 1440p displays for like $500 (maybe the sale ended), but they have a purple glow which you may notice in a bright room.
BUT oled's have other issues:
-text clarity isn't good due to pixel packing (rtings shows you the text clarity), new RGB layout oled's exist but expensive. 4k at 27" suppresses this issue (but expensive).
-oled burn in is no joke, your monitor will expire faster.
-some people are paranoid about burn in, and run the OLED at low brightness or enable automatic pixel refresh cycles which happen every dozen hours. This might ruin your experience.
-It's glossy, which is GOOD since anti-reflective coatings work really well. but I like my matte IPS display, even if matte makes direct bright reflections more annoying.
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Damnit price dropped even more on the s95f with deals
>55" 1 395 EUR
>77" 2 325 EUR
>77 more cost effective
Considering the next year's s95h is kinda botched with the bezel and same panel it's gonna be atleast another year before design change
The s90h will be better too and only qd in 77 in eu region, allegedly
This is the last opportunity to own the best display on the market that's not even more pozzed
Once again tempted
55 is 100 eur more than a pg27ucdm for goodness sake

The tv pill is calling again God damnit
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Got a mini itx board coming, never built small before, what am I in for?
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>>107937191
>Gsync pulsar
interesting, but I do have some Linux/AMD systems plugged in to my displays too.
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>>107935237
on top of the box first, always
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>>107937233
money? = wasted
time? = stolen
temps? = high
upgradability? = gone
fan noise? = loud
status? = over
welcome to itx
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>>107937129
Thanks BRO I'm so happy I can't tell you. I got every part separately so I wasn't sure they were all functional (except the mobo and gpu of course)
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>>107937150
No. It's mobo manufacturers. They don't know how to code proper bios and don't listen to what amd tells them. They try to get max amount of oc juice and touting GAYMING PERFORMANCE
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>>107937036
You’re assuming I’m even planning on installing Windows. It seems fine on Linux, just needs a little clean-up with compressed air and an 2.5 SSD upgrade. How fast does an OS have to boot anyway…? Either way I refuse to believe its e-waste.
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>>107937300
wtf I was told small cute builds were the future
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>>107934418
>Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)
Tell me about these bad mounting solutions.
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hello lads, retard here
about to flip the switch and power on my very first (and apparently cursed) build
wish me luck, and hopefully I'll see you after the POST
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>>107937324
>Cursed
Nani?
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>>107937319
should have constructed the monolith
>>107937324
RIP motherboard
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>>107937324
remember memory training makes the first boot take a little while, depending on the board it might be uncomfortably "i fucked up" long
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i heard stories about people flipping on their new pcs and the psu just going off, like breaking. how true are those claims, and why not just plug it in and jump it instead? why connect the rest of the pc and risk it?
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Has RAM always needed this so called "memory training" or is this new to DDR5?
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>>107937324
ANON PLEASE RESPOND
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>>107937317
I think that windows 7 runs better than linux on 4gb. Because I used windows 7 with 2gb and it ran like a champ with the torture I put it through (99% of my issues came from the intel graphics driver, I don't know why by there are youtube videos that would consistently cause my computer to bluescreen...).
If you have 8/16gb, that's probably fine for linux web browsing (but since you have a i3... 4gb PC's are not uncommon).
The problem with linux and memory is that windows only allocates memory that exists.
Linux will over-provision memory, so it will give out more memory than what exists on RAM, but it's assuming that the memory isn't all committed (aka, if most of the memory is zero, it will use zero memory, since the address is virtually mapped, and pointing to the same zero page).
So, what happens is that when you run out of memory on linux, it kills processes based on an algorithmn.
Windows 10 and 11 fucked things up, it can't handle low memory situations, and it already uses a lot of memory.
out of memory errors still exist (and not all applications handle it well).
Overall, I wonder how well your linux driver for graphics is (if it's a nvidia/amd dgpu, it should be fine, but I remember installing linux on a old core 2 duo laptop with a dedicated intel graphics chip, and it was a HUGE downgrade over windows 7, I think I saw screen tearing and went back to windows 7, I imagine the driver might be better on your igpu).
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>>107937131
tfw my 9800x3d and 5090 build is an actual timebomb
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>>107937365
New to ddr5. Ddr3 and ddr4 needs no training. But once it trains it boots jormally (unless there is a shortage or change in ram/ssd and cpu)
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>>107937424
ddr4 does need training, specially if you're tuning the memory
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>>107937326
>be me
>retard
this is important

>decide to build first PC
>on a whim
>on black friday
>order parts from newegg
>boughted ROG Astral 5090, intel 14900kf, asus mobo, random RAM sticks, noctua NH-D15 G2 cooler, 1300 watt PSU
>holy shit this stuff is expensive, these black friday "deals" are ass
>$9001 later
>remember hearing about intel cpu issues delaminating or something, idk
>change mind
>begin ordering parts for AMD
>return other parts as they come in
>notice cooler has "shipper exception"
>contact shipper, get "prease to be checking email gweilo, we send new tracking numbah"
>coming from fucking Hong Kong
>supposedly shipped from US
>order same unit from newegg directly, a week later
>$100 cheaper, arrives a week before other cooler

>drain bank account (predictably) before refunds come
>two days before Christmas, need $2500
>call banker for unrelated business, expecting no answer, actually get through

that was lucky but it gets worse
>open case to poke around
>remove plastic wrap
>touch case
>static shock so loud i heard it SNAP
>o well good thing the cables are insulated amirite lol
>fiddle with case some more
>find accessories bag
>leave it alone, assuming i will lose something vital
>because retard
>find manual
>includes suggested build instructions
>review, find section for PSU install
>max length 205mm
>huh, wonder how big mine is
>check
>210mm
>FFFUUUUUUUUU
>return unit
>take to UPS store
>buy box
>box is comically oversized, at least 2x
>immediately imagine returns receiving crumpled box with pristine PSU inside and laugh
>get refund well before PSU is received

>new PSU comes
>start by putting together mobo
>get CPU & RAM installed
>EZPZ, retards can build PCs too
>mount cooler
>follow instructions, including thermal paste application guide
>wtf what fraction of a burger is 1mm
>that looks like the picture, i guess

>>107937329
don't worry i boughted a spare
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>get 9800x3d
>think about getting a new ole faithful noctua
>see the current prices
Man what the fuck? Okay what's the next best heatsink for a 9800x3d that isn't trying to price gouge me?
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>>107937482
your life sounds difficult
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1000$ NAS + 2 HDDs or 1 external desktop HDD for 300$?
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>>107937482
>14900kf
I'll be honest anon I stopped reading right there, I'm not sure I believe anyone in these threads would have recommended that given the money you were spending on everything else.
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>>107937500
nas are supposed to be old pcs, you should just be paying for the drives and maybe an HBA card if you're a stinking nerd
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>>107937482
you sound like a retard.
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>>107937365
Yeah, it just used to be faster. Ddr5 introduces several new types of training not present on ddr4 which is why it takes longer to boot
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>>107937482
This anon has no concept of a thing called 'planning'
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>>107937482
is this the being rich experience?
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Reminder that people who cannot plan (or are pretending they cannot plan on basket weavers forum) have the money for a 5090.
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>>107937326
>>107937482
cont'd

>also got NVMe drives in
>have to build in carpeted bedroom, nowhere else in house is safe from herd of grandma's herd of cats
>only light is poorly positioned can light, can barely see most of the time since i have to stand between light and case to work
>get cooler tightened down
>shift fan for RAM clearance
>sit satisfied with myself for a few minutes before getting ready to drop it in the case
>delicately place on standoffs
>better get at that accessories bag so i can get my mounting screws out
>take out individual packets
>handy guide in case manual shows drawings of each screw type with amounts of each included
>go through bag
>there's the accessory screws, HDD lag-type screws, PSU mounting screws, PSU mounting screws--
>why do i have two sets of PSU screws, there's only space for one PSU in this case
>where the fuck are my mounting screws
>scream a little
>it's so fucking hard being a retard u guise

>email Fractal on saturday
>email tag the rest of the week, get screws shipped on thursday
>they arrived monday
>fucking FINALLY
>get home from work
>go pull glass cover off case
>shift mobo on standoffs, where it's been sitting all week, to make sure everything is in place
>pick it up, check standoffs, none need removed
>get screws out
>only have tiny short "precision set" screwdriver
>have to balance phone flashlight on case and cooler tower to get light into case because overhead light blows
>fat fingers make tight spaces tough
>first few go okay, since i started in the open areas
>get to socket next to IO bridge
>tight space, right at top of case
>screw slips out of socket before i can start
>rolls under IO bridge assembly
>two more slip out before i get one to thread, all rolling under this immobile block of metal squatting on the PCB
>no other choice
>pick up case, begin shaking til three screws fall out onto desk and i don't hear any more rattling
>78% positive i got all the loose screws i lost, and it's not rattling
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>>107937574
Is this what not having a father figure does to a nigga
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>it gets worse
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>>107937574
Damn anon please don't let this discourage you, I know we are bullying, but everyone starts somewhere and you are at least building.
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>All 5090 cards sold out except for like 100+ Gainward 5090 cards and some liquid cooling cards
Priced at like 2999€, what is wrong with Gainward? Is the quality so extremely bad nobody wants them?
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>>107937329
slava monolith
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>>107937495
it is hard being retarded, do not recommend
>>107937505
bold of you to assume i sought any advice at all before making this substantial purchase
>>107937509
it's nice to be recognized for my achievements, thank you
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>>107934418
Is there any guide/list/anything you /g/urus recommend for laptops?

A friend asked me for help but I frankly have no idea about them
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>>107937654
Insight is the first step towards improvement.
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>>107937637
Nothing, at worst they're just fugly cards
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>>107937656
Lenovo good
Asus, Acer, hp, dell bad
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>>107937546
oh come on, anon, i know what woodworking is and how a planer works
>>107937566
i just have some savings since i mostly stay home
>>107937570
reminder that being able to save less money than a retard is definitively a skill issue
>>107937588
idk anon, but shouldn't your father have passed on some money or skills so you wouldn't have to be so poor and angry?
>>107937597
appreciate your kindness, anon, but i have lurked long years here, i knew what i was in for when i posted
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>>107937664
one day, after much practice and effort, i will become a better retard
thank you for your encouragement
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>>107937654

its interesting how im glued to the internet and follow pc hardware news and some people who spend their time doing other things have completely different perspective on how to do things
like this guy randomly buying shit that pops into their feed based off of nothing but his own insight

I was watching joseph anderson streams, and it was a bit similar.He doesnt follow pc hardware news, and instead of buying stuff when its affordable he just one day decides today is new pc day and its time to google some hardware that feels good. Also no amd cpus because the brands icky.
>how much does the best gpu cost today?
>oh..
>how much does 64gb ddr5 ram cost today?
>oh...

Reminds me of the fog of war when I was a teenager and had to navigate building a pc with no frame of reference.
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>Sudokoo SK700V
Any here have this cooler?
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>>107937637
These days, Gainward, GALAX, and KFA2 are just brands belonging to Palit. Some Gainward and Palit GPUs are basically identical.
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>>107935571
>https://us.msi.com/Promotion/resident-evil-requiem-game-bundle
>something

>msi
>nvidia spelled with god knows what letters"
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>>107937439
Never happened to me and I have a lexar 32 gig with expo enabled
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>>107937656
force them to get an apple laptop unless they NEED windows
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>>107937705
i have a friend who watches gamers nexus and a few other tech presenters, like jayz two cents
my buddy was the one talking about the intel thing, which was awhile ago and i randomly remembered (after buying, of course), and intel didn't seem too confident they'd resolved the issue by that generation so i figured i'd switch. i don't know enough to have brand loyalty
i only found out about the price hikes on RAM over the past few months when i saw the prices were so damn high, but i had to buy it anyway since i wanted something top of the line
>64 GB
128 actually, and i decided that i didn't need the other 64 so it's sitting on my shelf as a backup in case of failure
the first mobo i bought came out to almost $700, i got fucking SCALPED
but i found an identical one on sale for nearly half what the other cost, so i bought two and sent the original mobo back
so now i'm thinking i might buy myself a less expensive GPU, PSU and AM5 CPU so i have backup parts on hand, or another computer to build if i need/want
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>>107937014
>The split 8-pins dont like to be current balanced and are a huge melting risk
Source? Aris from HardwareBusters seemed to prefer the dual 8-pin over the native cable.
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>>107937794
whats your source of income?
Inheritance?
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>>107937708
Have it but haven't finished the build yet so can't comment on effectiveness.
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>>107937826
Shame. I might just get it anyway. What's the worst that could happen?
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Is there a reason to get a platinum rated PSU besides you have more money to spend?
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I want an ultrawide monitor.
Anyone got any recommendations?
Is the GIGABYTE G34WQC2 any good?
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>>107937825
i received a modest inheritance, enough to buy a well-cared for used vehicle and a low 5 figures which is invested, when my mother died. i've lived with family my whole life, so i never paid rent out of pocket, though a lot of my time and some of my money went to upkeep on the house and family needs
i save on bills by living with my grandmother. she has nobody else to look after her after grandpa died, so i moved in and look after her. i don't pay rent, but much of my free time and my future is sacrificed in exchange for that boon.
my day job, quite ironically, is as a janitor
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>>107937841
Pretty much my exact thoughts when I bought it, kek. Saw how it performed in GN's and KitGuru's tests, thought it looked interesting and figured "Why not?". It'll be a nice change of pace and if it's not up to snuff, not the end of the world.
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>>107937890
neat
its always good to look after old people instead of ditching them into hellish old people homes
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is it worth getting a 5070ti over a 9070xt for $350 more if i don't care a lot about productivity?
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>>107937963
fuck no
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>>107937918
yeah, i'd never be able to look myself in the mirror if i ditched her in a home for some underpaid turds to maltreat
family is a wonderful thing, and a burden at the same time. she's sacrificed a lot to give me the life i've had, so the least i can do is sacrifice some of mine in return.
i won't be taking any more than a day or two away on vacations or anything terribly fun for the foreseeable future, so instead i bought a nice computer that should be able to run any kind of digital escape i might like to enjoy for the next few years.

putting it together was a hell of a lot of fun, despite the struggle, and it's running now. i've been clicking through the BIOS settings program for awhile, testing drives and such. just got my RAM up to speed. i think i'll install the OS
wish i didn't have to infect it with win11, but i think i have much choice.
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>>107937114
funny how vinted is this hidden gem for hw but I know only it for women clothing swap
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>>107937975
thanks, all i needed to read
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>>107938014
desu i did wonder if because of the rabid amd shill /here/ you'd assume anyone that suggested getting a 9070xt wasn't saying it in good faith but that price difference really is heinous
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>>107937963
Just so you really know, not at fucking all.

t. 5070ti owner
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>>107937896
If you happen to build it within the next couple of days, post the results here!
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>>107938037
honestly? based
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>>107938036
>>107938037
thanks, guys. i guess it's because of AI shenanigans, but i can't find a 5070ti below 1K. it looks like the 9070xt will do just fine for 1440p vidya, which is all i really want. also i'm upgrading from a 15 year old gpu lol. i belive the difference will still be night and day.
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>>107937801
My 5090 astral and the cumulative 2 hours I spent this month trying to get it not grossly unbalanced
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>PC dies in early December
>need a new one before prices soar even higher
>had previously sold $15000 worth of Nvidia and AMD stock, a few weeks earlier
>decide to withdrawal $3000 for PC upgrade, leave $2000 liquid, and then invested the remaining $10,000 in a gold index.
>check the gold price today
>up $2000 on the gold investment
Well you win some, you lose some.
At least the PC I ended up building would cost $500-1000 more day today than it did last month.
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>>107938107
AMD is much better for Gaming-only cases
superior 0.1% lows
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>>107938115
im still way to stingy to pay nu gpu prices
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>>107938130
Believe it or not, the GPU was the one thing I didn't upgrade, as I already had a 4070Ti and that should suffice for the next 2-3 years until the 60XX series is available.

Still ended up spending near $3k due to needing nvme and HDD storage, which alone was $850.
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>>107938097
Tbf I upgraded recently and I got the 5070ti because I snagged one at msrp. I was looking at both equally.

>>107938107
Yeah you'll be fine on the 9070xt. Easier to move to Linux too if you're into that idea. The two pretty much go toe to toe, with the 5070ti only being ahead with stuff like upscaling options like dlss/fsr and ray tracing options. While there's an increasing amount of games that use one or both options, there's plenty of other games coming out that use neither. Mostly because bigger studios, aka AAA devs, are the ones that put such options in their games. Smaller or indie devs don't usually offer them, nor really need them.
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>>107938130
Same. Honestly I regret not getting one during black friday when I said I would. Now I have no clue if or when things will get better.
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none of the 5000 series cards were ever a good deal, absolute kuso generation
>750€ for a Mid range 300 Watt gpu
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>>107937996
good. 1tb was never enough anyways.
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it's interesting that the latest dlss models focus on performance dlss. maybe we should expect nvidia based handhelds and weaker mini-pc systems from nvidia over the course of the 2026.
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>>107938275
>nvidia based handhelds
we already have the switch
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>>107938244
get an corsair rm550x. they are stupid efficient at idle and great for home servers. maybe there are alternatives to it. i am not a psu autist. that's what i have heard.
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I'm looking at a used 5080FE for $900. Too good to be true. Such a good deal, but I hate buying used hardware.
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im going to anime bake soon if someone else doesn't. every minute that goes by is a moment the spammer could bake a brand war thread, you know?
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>>107938244
needs more hdds for raid
cpu is overpowered for the task
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>>107937870
mostly braided cables that come with it. never cared about efficiency since gold and plat are almost the same
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ivZpr-QLs
yikes, >40 mOhm on a single cable crimp
no wonder these shits burn, that is absolutely inaceptable
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>>107937482
almost as bad as me whenever I decided to buy gpu it was during worse times
>during crypto = paid 2x times for low end AMD
>during covid = paid +200 on basic nvidia
>during HWarmageddon = paid +100 for basic nvidia again just because 16Gb vram

only redeemer is I got good monitor with - 200 under msrp somehow
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9800X3D now or wait for 9850X3D
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>>107934730
>get a super duper ultrawide
Do you not run into issues with games/programs behaving weirdly on ultrawides? Or is that a thing of the past?
>>107934790
>dlss and don't tell me you won't run it
Obviously, I'll use whatever tools I can so long as I can get steady frames and good quality
>>107935292
Thanks for the tip

So, the consensus here seems to be oled>mini-led? Even though the KTC M27T6 (miniLED) is in the recommended monitor list. Is there any truth that mini-led can get you like 80-90% to what an oled can do, or was that just reviewers talking out of their ass?
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>>107938487
is a 2% clock speed bump worth waiting for you? Even if you only played games like stellaris and factorio i don't think you'll notice a difference. And those games are the exception. Most are gpu bottlenecked whether you're on a 7800x3d or 9800x3d, so the 9850x3d means nothing.

just get the 9800x3d if you need a cpu now
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>>107938386
there's a surplus of high quality konatas in pcbg so i encourage this action
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>>107938561
all me btw
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>>107938544
>Do you not run into issues with games/programs behaving weirdly on ultrawides? Or is that a thing of the past?
you still do to some extent, but it's the exception to the rule. you do get a unified screen, so no border or color issues. you can split the screen up into multiple zones, so you are more flexible (just have to have a high-res screen). you don't have to treat it like two 16 by 9 monitors next to each other without the border. you can also just use it as three 32:27 screens next to each other. all uniform. you may also get montion sick from looking at it in full screen gayming.
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>>107938544
>>107938597
love my ultrawide. the only games i've played recently that don't play nice with my 21:9 monitor are older titles like starcraft 2 co-op, project diablo 2, or overcooked.
some games like elden ring support ultrawide with a mod (and look incredible), but yeah most new games are just fine with it. not sure about 32:9 screens though
but absolutely love the format, wouldn't ever go back to normal widescreen
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https://shop.sandisk.com/products/ssd/internal-ssd/wd-blue-sn580-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS200T3B0E-00CHF0
https://shop.sandisk.com/products/ssd/internal-ssd/wd-blue-sn580-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS200T3B0E-00CHF0
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>>107938636
>notify me
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>>107938636
don't care. i alread got two 2tb nvme ssds.
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>>107938673
i have 11tb of m.2 ready for the pc winter bring it on sam FAGman
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>all dem bent pins
I assume this one would be unsalvageable?
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so there's new "leaks"
5050, 5060ti, 5070 and 5080 will become the only available cards
5050 targeting for always available with the latter 3 becoming rare
5060 and 5070ti will not be manufactured anymore
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>>107938722
source?
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>>107938722
5090?
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Can a game has so bad code that it can't run smoothly even with new hardware?
>putting some new parts on the PC
>instead of trying a new AAA game
>first thing I will put on will be Tom Clancy Wildlands
>and Ass Creed Odyssey
>in theory thamey should max out smoothly at 1440p
>still have doubts
Is it the Indians' fault that Unisoft games can't max out smoothly?
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>>107938728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx4kPVyZRw0
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>>107938718
if i cold get it for cheap i would give it a go with fixing. prob more fun and rewarding than modern games.
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>>107938722
what the fuck, the 5070ti is the only acceptable card out of the 5000 series
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>>107938743
hellniggers 2
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>>107938742
the 5090 is THE profitable ai card for cattle brain (normal consumer, not businesses)
obviously it will always be made
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>>107938744
this faggot is usually wrong but makes so many scattershot predictions that some of them land then he touts himself as a prophet.

Still decent content to put on as background noise just dont take it as gospel
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>>107938743
>Can a game has so bad code that it can't run smoothly even with new hardware?
It's a return to tradition.
Throughout PC gaming history, new games outpacing hardware has been the norm.
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>>107938722
>nooo it's just unsourced claims from some faggots
well so were the other "leaks" 2 weeks ago and look what happened
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>have installed this new back in the day
>modular PSU
>following the manual
>all good
>I am replacing it today with a new modular one
>hesitating about the order of the cables to replace
>do I put the new and follow the cables one by one?
>do I remove everything and just follow the new one's manual?
How do I go about replacing this? Can I mess up if I just follow the cables one by one replacing them?
Should I go clean and just remove the whole old PSU system instead?
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>>107938783
Can we max out Crysis 1 original at 4K in 2026?
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>>107938785
nooo nvidia said 5070ti wasnt discontinued so thats fake and gaaaaay
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>>107938802
I know you're just joking but some retards actually believe nvidia
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>>107938743
yes easily. every ue5 game i've played even the 'well coded' ones like satisfactory has traversal stuttering as it loads in assets and i have current top end hardware
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There is no manual in the box. I never asked for this future...
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>>107938795
>Can we max out Crysis 1 original at 4K in 2026?
I'll tell you tomorrow.
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>>107938837
it's funny watching nvidia come up with increasingly convoluted ways to reduce hardware utilization for rendering frames to the point 97% of pixels are fake, we're like 75x more performant now vs 10 years ago when counting all the njudea tricks and yet jeet outsourcing and vibecoding has accelerated poor optimization by an order magnitude above even that. It's like a race, and nvidia is still losing in spite of how fast they're going.
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>>107938862
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>>107938862
>when you know you won't like eating at that restaurant
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>Buy cheap prebuilt with iGPU to 'save' money
>*Surprised pikachu* It wasn't very good
>Buy a rx 9060 xt
>*Surprised pikachu* Prebuilt uses minimum threshold 450w so I need to get a new PSU
>Bought one of the only PSU (cooler master MWE gold V3) that is too large for the PSU shroud
>Get a new case and CPU/case fans because *Surprised pikachu*, cheap prebuilt fans are noisy even at normal speed
>Finally have everything and ready to transplant the MB
>*Surprised pikachu* Default cheap CPU cooler uses a clip-on non-removable mounting so I have to use metal cutters to get it off

Aside from that, there was no issues once I assembled it.
And I love the look of the new case, fans and cpu cooler so that's something at least.
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>>107938862
>buy from pirate brand
>manual gets stolen
>surprised pikachu
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>>107938886
>>107938890
samefag or surprised pikachu hivemind?
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>>107938890
>pay for a printed manual
>get a pdf
>money stolen
I need my $10 refund.
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>>107938864
borderlands 4 ran at sub 70 fps at 3440x1440 on my 5090 in the beach area right after the tutorial when i ran it without nvidia's game ready drivers during launch week
im not sure how they managed to make such shitty unoptimized shaders but they did a great job at that
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>>107938902
you need to see a doctor if you need a manual for your psu
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>>107938902
>single rail psu
>manual
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its super interesting to watch a price tracker of 5070 ti's and every day the price going up few % on average
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>5090
>9800x3d
>obvious LOD and pop-in in current year
baka
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>>107938912
give a programmer a quantum computer and he will program a game running on it at 720p at 30fps so he can go back to slacking off at work. not really, it's the game studio that doesn't allow optimizations to take place.
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>>107938912
people underestimate just how much performance gain was thanks to optimization and sleek/competent coding, it wasn't just a few fps, it was the difference between 1 fps and 100. Now devs have decided the hardware can do all the work for them and don't optimize at all. I suppose there will eventually be a point where the hardware is able to compensate for all levels of laziness possible, either that or ai coding will become sophisticated enough to actually produce good code, in which case this is all just an unfortunate stopgap time period of pure dog shit. The upside is that if that point happens any time soon our current hardware will paradoxically play games released 5 or 10 years from now better than games released today and we're future proof in a way that makes the 1080 ti look like a Pentium II and nvidia will be incredibly angry.
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>>107938862
That's pretty normal at this point. At very best you get a few pages with a short version.
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>>107938944
i really like threat interactive. watching their videos makes me feel smart even if i don't know what goes on when it comes to graphics rendering, at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4
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>>107938912
do i have to install telemetry app with it?
>nvidia's game ready drivers
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>>107938944
>I suppose there will eventually be a point where the hardware is able to compensate for all levels of laziness possible, either that or ai coding will become sophisticated enough to actually produce good code
It might get to the point where a handful of Carmak like optimisers have ironed out all of the functions that get called in 90% of code in the Unreal Engine or whatever replaces it.

I think it's possible that you can make a gaming framework kind of idiot proof. Just off-load as much as possible from being studio innovation to being baked-in-to-the-framework.
This doesn't solve the problem that GPU companies don't even want optimised code.
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>>107938941
>it's the game studio that doesn't allow optimizations to take place.

ofcourse because optimization = money and time
they will fix it after launch, gamers will gobble it up as always
look at Cyberpunk, it only took 2 years and DLC for them to get it to good playable state
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Hey

I have 32 GB of DDR5 RAM, but I do not have a CPU or a Mobo for it. I got it on fire sale last year and it's basically sat unused because I kept threatening to make a build but never did it.

What is the best way to proceed if all I have is this and enough NVME to last a lifetime? Should I make a whole new DDR5 build or upgrade an older DDR4 build with 64 GB of RAM and a 3080 to the max it can perform at?
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Hi guys, so I have an anti glaring monitor, I probably fucked up and touched the screen with my greasy hands and now it has some weird marks (that don't look like fingers marks) two times I've tried cleaning it with destiled water and 2 clean microfiber cloths, one damped with the distilled water and the other dry, everyone it's alright for a day but they come back the next, wtf is going on?
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>>107938975
>This doesn't solve the problem that GPU companies don't even want optimised code.
honestly surprised i hadn't considered that before. the ideal case is actually that the bottom end cards run games pretty poorly and the top end cards don't run well enough to be comfortable through the next gen.
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>>107938987
well mobos and cpus are gonna be cheap as no one can buy them, so theres no hurry there
gpus meanwhile are going up so if you want a long lasting pc buy a 5070 ti if you can
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>>107939002
Thanks fren, I'll try to go all-in on one before the end times hit
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>>107938973
GRD is just code for driver updates that contain bug fixes from nvidia's engineers since gamedevs cant code for shit
The GRD for BL4 brought the fps up to the mid 90s from mid 60s in the same location which is pretty insane
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>>107938987
Anon. Give me your flash memory. Bury it in the soil and I shall claim it as tribute.
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a moment of silence for the anons who believed the "JUST WAIT FOR SUPERS IN JAN 2026 BWO!!" retarded shitposters and didn't build an RTX 50xx DDR5 AM5 PC in August when prices were at an all time low.
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>>107939001
>the ideal case is actually that the bottom end cards run games pretty poorly and the top end cards don't run well enough to be comfortable through the next gen
Bingo.

The newest hottest thing should be enough for about five minutes, have you raving about it online and irl and then after you've spread the word-of-mouth marketing that says hot thing 2 is great, it leaves you wanting to upgrade to hot thing 3.
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>>107939114
kek. was there ever a time in pcbg history where the waitfags got btfo harder than now? instead of "choosing" to wait, they are now forced to for more than 2 years hahaha
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>>107939131
they got btfo'd too for trying to wait for the 3070 to come to market or get better stocked instead of buying a cheap rtx2070s/80s/80ti card
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>>107939131
>>107939150
Waitfags (in other words poorfags) are never not getting btfo. They have limited time on earth and they choose to spend more of it with a pc that is apparently not fulfilling their needs or desires if they feel like they're "waiting".
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please stop reminding me that I chose the worst time to build a PC lmao
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>>107939158
You don't need to be a richfag to afford decent computers, smartphones, whatever, I earn just about the equivalent of ~1050 USD per month in my turd world shithole and if I can just buy a ton of cool electronic gadget device shit if I decide to not "save up" and instead blow all of my spare cash on coonsooming goods and services.
I'm glad I built my PC in the end of last summer August-September. My only regret is not being a clairvoyant and getting 64GB RAM instead of 32GB, and maybe a 5070 Ti instead of a 5070, just to be SURE I'm future proofed until the end of the shortage in 3029.
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>>107939190
the same could be said of investing or anything.
"the best time was yesterday, the next best time is today" And tomorrow is always a worse time.
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>>107939197
>3029
are you a vampire, anon?
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>>107939158
As a certified waitfag that's eaten shit more times than a fecalpheliac, my biggest problem is that i just pussyfoot around too much. I look at every possible option and weigh the pros and cons for so long that when I finally decide on something, something happens that keeps me from buying it. I'm just stupid frankly.
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>>107939206
I do live in the Balkans so, perhaps. Do (You) see the shortage ending any time sooner than next millenium, anon?
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>>107939197
>You don't need to be a richfag to afford decent computers
and then you say
>if I decide to not "save up" and instead blow all of my spare cash on coonsooming goods and services.
you've obviously got more sense than the average third worlder in your village. For most people, including in the USA; maybe even especially the USA, the concept of "saving up" is completely foreign. Everything is bought on klarna or credit and turned into a monthly cost which all add up to consume nearly their entire paycheck along with rent, subscription services, and if they have any money left over maybe they'll spend it on uberjeets (if they aren't also buying that on pay-later). There is no delayed gratification. Poor people stay poor because they are unable to conceptualize it. The American consumer is the most globally sought after resource for this very reason.

Doesn't apply everywhere though as we can see, saving rates in China are far higher, but their value as a consumer base is much lower as a result.
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>>107939206
anon is the legendary alchemist Fulcanelli who have achieved immortality
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>>107939219
the paradox of choice is miserable
i'm much happier making do with shitty options for <x> received as gifts over having to research and buy anything on my own
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>>107939219
Same
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>>107939235
>uberjeets (if they aren't also buying that on pay-later)
>yeah bro just take out a loan to eat fast food it's worth it be a good goy and do it
I'm poor but I'm not "order pizza on credit" poor what the fuck?
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>>107937794
>128 actually, and i decided that i didn't need the other 64 so it's sitting on my shelf as a backup in case of failure
install it anyway if its a 64gb stick since you'd be gimping your performance because of single channel
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>>107939235
the mutt goycattle are a subspecies of homo sapiens sapiens that's specially bred by the good folks living in tel aviv
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>>107939283
>what the fuck
nta but credit cards are absolutely ubiquitous here, and as a tangent for various reasons it's actually a good idea to use them over a debit card (cash back rewards, money doesn't immediately come out of your bank account if fraud, etc)
the issue is if you pay off your card every month it's all great but this setup makes it very very easy to just carry a balance and now you're paying interest on a pizza. it's another one of those poor get poorer things where people that make bad decisions screw themselves. many such cases here
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we don't have uninflated price in europe bros. And it's only getting worse, apparently. A mediocre am5 build, or entry level whatever you wanna call it, it's around 1000 euros in europe... i mean 7500f with a shit gpu and some motherboard that barely runs them, stock cooler of course. The 7800x3d is 500+ euros. 4070 super is 800 euros. Nothing is dropping lower, on the contrary.. these are just standard prices and it only gets worse
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RTX 5070 price hikes and shortages have begun here, how badly did I fuck up not buying one of these while they were at 2500 PLN I wonder.
>>107939219
Same here. I was on the verge of buying but doubt gave me cold feet at the last second.
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>>107937683
>>107937784
Their target budget is around 470 yurobucks, but I don't think that's a feasible budget for a decent laptop
How much should i push him for?
E16 ThinkPads start at 700 for the Ryzen 5
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>>107939406
the 4000 series is end of life, prices always go up when supply is non existant
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True waitlords don't feel any resentment towards the current price inflation and the progressive decay of personal DIY desktop computers.
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>>107938929
>its super interesting to watch a price tracker of 5070 ti's and every day the price going up few % on average
WOOP DEE DOO!
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>>107939451
I resent the end of the personal computing space looking imminent, not prices
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Is pic related stll the goat in value or something better has come out since?
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>>107939481
this
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>>107939437
yeah but EU prices are always +40% over msrp it was always was like that for europe and its only getting worse
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>>107939509
>>EU prices are always +40% over msrp
>RTX 5070 @ MSRP = 549$ = 470 EUR
>RTX 5070 actual price in EU = 625 EUR
It's 30% so you might've been joking but you're shockingly correct. I hate it here. Mutts earn more money than us and goods are also cheaper over there, crazy.
>muh rent
Just own a house? Did you parents not come with a house? When they die you get said house. Live with them until that happens.
>parents are on rent
USA is a failed state. My family got a house for essentially free thanks to communism and working for 4 years in the construction forces.
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>>107939509
msrp is without tax i guess
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>you actually don't need a powerful computer to create "digital" products
>you're actually not a content creator
>at the end, you're just looking for a computer to play games
>Cloud gaming services will soon change the status quo forever and you can't do anything to prevent this
>the miniPC that you've loathed for so long is going to actually be the only tech investment you'll ever need
Why are you guys crashing out about the situation? Why aren't you accepting that PC as we've known them till now are dead? Why, in a tech board which should focus on discussing the new great technologies that are waiting for you and which will make our future great, you, out of all people, are the ones who still praise CRT monitors, local components and faulty softwares? Why can't you snap out of your sickening nostalgia?
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>>107939542
only good thing about europe was "free" healthcare but that turned to shit because too many people not enough money in it.
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>america is failed state because i'm mad about being poorer than them
very common online discourse desu
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>>107939557
Better live in a world where you own your jank than a world where the nec plus ultra is only available for rent.
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>>107939572
healthcare turned to shit because feminist in power installed a female majority in medical fields but unlike their boomer precessors they dont work full time to age 70, but part time with parental leave and early retirement.
Watch it all collapse in 5 years when these fossiles are forced to retire due to old age
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bake a new thread or is there a fucking thread shortage as well
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Reminder that these threads weren't as bad six years ago, what you are seeing are a bunch of ex-snoys and ex-xbone kids that got into PC gaming during the pandemic and now they are fighting over PC component brands insteads of console makers.
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>>107939607
>go to make thread
>hurr durr gib 40 stars with gorillion spikes
>vgh fuck that noise
yeah there's a reason these all go 400-500 posts now...
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>>107939622
I was always a PC kid because a PS3/Xbox360 was too expensive for my parents to afford back in the day, while we always had a computer at home, and upgrading it slightly at my request was cheaper than a whole console that was ONLY good for games and nothing else.
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>>107939643
ps3 was a massive ripoff for sure
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i genuinely cannot be bothered to make the thread...
nicotroon please save us
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>>107939728
>>107939728
>>107939728
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9070xt is worth $300 at most. having to rely on free labor from fans to get fsr4 supported in all games using optiscaler is rediculous



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