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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
*On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
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>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
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German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
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>>107939715
What the hell is that, never seen it
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>>107938785
>5050 only available gpu left
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>>107939773
From a cheap rack-mounted Inter-Tech case. No English manual, and German manual is worthless. I'm gonna assume one is enough if I don't notice any strange stuff then.
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waitfags are finished
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So assuming that everything is going to get much worse and wont get better until maybe 2 years from now, should I just cut my losses and spend around $2,000 or so on a powerful new pc that would hopefully last me 10 years or so? I know I waited into the worst possible time, but I feel like more waiting will just fuck me over harder.
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So Nvidia are just like
"Yeah, VRAM is pretty expensive now, so were just like not gonna make any RTX graphics cards, so, yeah that's it.
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>>107939798
Fall of Waigpuon
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>>107939728
Just view it, no need to read.
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>>107939808
reminder that MLID is not a reliable source
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>>107939773
creates mustard gas
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Buying a card when you're midgen at the exact same price it launched at feels the fucking worst. Like, what was even the point not buying directly at launch.
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>>107939808
well they get more money from AI so its that easy.
why bother with gamers when others pay 2x-3x etc. more
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>>107939832
you could have bought at launch that's on you tbdesu
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>>107939835
why bother with gamers when crypto was booming
oh right because these things are cyclical
datacenter demand will drop off a cliff and nvidia will be forced to come crawling back as always, because gamer demand is steady and reliable in comparison to hype bubble bullshit.
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Rate my build?
So far this is what I have

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600MHz CL28
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16G
SSD: Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD
PSU: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850W 80+ Gold
Case Fans: ARCTIC P12 PWM PST (5 Pack)

All I need is a 500Gb ssd for the OS (maybe a windows 11, or maybe a linux) and a case. Any good ssd for the os?
And what's a good case for this? I like the look of the Silverstone FLP02, but I want to use all 5 of my case fans. The Lian Li LANCOOL 216 fits the bill, but I dont like the rgb lights on the front

Also I'm thinking of an AOC Q27G4ZR for a monitor, is it a good idea?
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>>107939832
launch products have a much higher chance to have some sort of design oversight or defect like missing ROPs, asus astral back fan noise etc.
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>>107939835
AI companies are basically chasing foxes out of the chicken coops except all chickens are dead and what's left is infighting over property. All of this will implode within a matter of years if not less. We should really get an apology from Jensen after AI is confirmed dead. Won't get one though, they'll just hush back to gaming without batting an eye like Japan's stance on the rape of Nanking.
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>>107939728
A friend has asked for help on laptops, he reported a target budget of 500 yurobucks but it seems too low for a decent pc
Are ThinkPad e series okeyish?
Or are regular lenovos better?
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>>107939894
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>>107939801
>like more waiting will just fuck me over harder.
you are correct, unless you have 2 years to spare buy now or never
I'm getting old and the amonut of titles I missed waitfagging is a bit depressing
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APOLOGIZE
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>>107939866
>HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM
are these CMR still? I know my was but that was 8 years ago, also how much it costs?
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>>107939905
NVIDIA is unironically one of the few that will come out unscathed after the bubble bursts and the stock market dump-off begins since they've already sold everything through to AI companies. They have nothing to lose.
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>>107939905
>No revenue growth or cost savings
It's literally only helped banks
Every other business has seen ZERO growth or profitability or productivity improvements shoving these retarded AI chatbots and other crap into their systems.
And when I say AI has helped banks I don't mean the shitty chatbots they've added, no they've used it for fraud detection and prevention tracking which it's been great at. Nothing customer facing all internal. Visa as evil as they are have done actually useful shit with it. Everyone else is getting totally raped by these dumbass AI LLM garbage.
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>Asus Prime 9070xt OC for $720
>Powercooler Reaper 9070xt for $750
>Asrock Challenger 9070xt for $650
Which should I go for fellas? I've only ever used MSI cards so idk about these other guys.
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no reason to be depressed about lack of gpus its not like there is GTA 6 coming out next month
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>>107939988
nice bait
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>>107939948
ST2000DM008
ST2000DM005
are both SMR

ST2000NM000A
ST2000NT001
are both CMR
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>£829 for the cheapest in stock
THAT SHIT WAS £679 A MONTH AGO
WHERE IS ALL THE STOCK
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>>107939948
>BarraCuda
LOL NO
you need EXOS at the minimum
Even Ironwolf is sketchy
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>>107940030
5070tis are discontinued
Suck it up or wait for prices to get even worse
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>>107940040
IronWolf Pros area always CMR, it's the non-pros you need to worry about.
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>>107940030
Just go to micro center ;^)
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>>107939808
>>107939835
Why bother procuring GDDR6 chips for Radeon dGPUs when AMD can't even get them at competitive prices?
Especially when AMD is better off letting Sony get those GDDR6 chips to purchase PlayStation 5 & Pro SoC?
The PS5 Pro's SoC almost certainly costs less money to produce compared to a 9070/XT's GPU, given their die sizes (279 mm2 for the entire Pro SoC vs. 357 mm2 9070/XT GPU).

RTX 3060 production never stopped, and RTX 5050 also uses GDDR6 chips. These are the cards that will be installed in high-volume entry-level gaming PCs.
AMD is under far more pressure for GDDR6 memory chips, and their BOM cost to AIBs reflects this.

No other major GPU designer can get a better deal than NVIDIA's GDDR7 supply terms.
You retards need to stop acting like NVIDIA's the only company that will adjust gaming GPU distribution during this memory storage.
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>>107939984
You'll get fuck all performance difference between models with the same GPU, so it's almost entirely about overall build quality and warranty.

I'd check a review on the Asrock given that Asus is notorious for having diabolical customer support.
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>>107940030
>WHERE IS ALL THE STOCK

I ate it.
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>>107940060
>but at least you can get 5050 gamers why u mad

fucking hell what a times we live in
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What are the 5070Ti cards to avoid? I've read horror stories on the Gigabyte one's, so much they had to pull out a V2 of their shitbox. I think another model/brand also had terrible issues.
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>>107940030
Bongistan ouch.
Germanistan keep winning.
I think you can order it to UK
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>>107940074
I'm not talking about the performance or worthiness of the RTX 3060 or the 5050.
Those are the types of affordable RTX cards that prebuilt PC sellers buy in large quantities.
AMD is directly competing against NVIDIA & Sony for their GDDR6 memory procurement needs.

NVIDIA gets the best high-volume memory order terms because they are Samsung/Hynix/Micron's high-priority customer.
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A few months ago I bought a 5090 and had to return it. Can I reuse the superflower PSU 600w cable if I ever get another 5090 or should I buy a new cable?
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>>107939948
Nah its SMR, I'll use it for video, movies etc. Basically cold storage
I paid 71 euros for it.
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>>107940077
>only managed to get gigabyte 5070 last minute

am i fucked too
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>>107940113
If you're using the same PSU, then why not?
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>>107940118
It's fine the problem were with the first batches of higher end cards
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>>107940077
You should be fine if you don't vertically mount Gigabyte RTX 50 or RX 9000 cards; the thermal putty they've used could slip out after a few heat cycles.
If the card is noisy, undervolt (+OC to retain stock performance) & power limit it.
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>>107940062
>You'll get fuck all performance difference between models with the same GPU
So I guess the OC aspect of the Asus is a bit meaningless then?
>I'd check a review on the Asrock given that Asus is notorious for having diabolical customer support.
I checked the reviews for both and honestly they seem very similar. Some people say they're incredibly quiet while others have loud fans and coil whine. Honestly not sure if they did something wrong or got unlucky.
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>>107940030
When shit gets real, people are willing to pay the GeForce tax.
Better to overpay now than be stuck with a Radeon card for the next five years.
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Is pic related still good? Or something better has come out at a similar price?
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>>107939905
I work as a tech consultant, my main focus is network and infrastructure working. Basically the middle man between a company that needs that shit and the big tech guys who provide the tools.
There was a HUGE push from like 2022 onwards for all these great and amazing AI tools and features in existing tools.
Broadcom, Splunk, Logicmonitor... it took until 2025 for most of our customers to realize that all the AI shit in these tools was mostly just marketing and useless or not even working properly at all.
Now there's barely any push for it anymore.
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>>107940086
>Germanistan keep winning.
what the fuck are you talking about, these were 800€ 3 weeks ago
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>>107940183
If you don't care about the fan quality (noise/rattle), sure.
I have no personal agenda against Thermalright coolers, but dBA =/= noise or sound characteristics.
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>>107940200
Then is there something with better fan acoustics at <50$?
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>>107940193
they are at least at stock
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>>107940211
be Quiet Pure Rock 3 Pro, but the Thermalright heatsink cools AMD CPUs better.
It's not going to be a big difference for a light-medium CPU load daily system (gaming PC).
https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=pure+rock+pro+3
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amazon still hasn't published my monitor review so I can't get the resident evil key
fuck how long does this take
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is it over for nvidia now?
https://wccftech.com/the-claude-code-has-managed-to-port-nvidia-cuda-backend-to-rocm-in-just-30-minutes/
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>>107940303
I mean ZLUDA is already a thing, and ROCM already has a CUDA interpreter.
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>>107940247
It is under 50 bucks at my local retailer so I will probably get it, thanks.
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Foiled again.
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>>107940183
Been using it for 2 years, no fan rattle whatsoever. Noctua fantards are certifiably insane.
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>>107940353
some people from this general would be dead if it wasn't for stickers like that one
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>>107939801
well your other option is to come to this general for the next 2 years and whine about the prices like everyone else
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>20% of RAM is always in use
Should I be worried?
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I wonder if I should have ordered a 5080 instead of a 5070ti for blender stuff
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>>107940455
You should use Firefox if you're worried, then it'll be used as it should at 80%! RAM not used is wasted RAM, you know the drill.
And your GPU VRAM at 40% just for a few tabs!
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>>107940455
Unused RAM is wasted RAM, your OS knows this and WANTS to put your RAM to work.
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>>107939957
This nvidia is the guy selling shovels during gold rush
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>>107940455
It depends. 20% of 4 Gb of RAM is not so bad. 20% of 64 Gb, that should be raising alarms.
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>>107940464
Yes obviously
The difference between the two isn't much when it comes to gaming but it's quite significant at CUDA shit
But I'm talking when the gap is $250 at MSRP prices
Right now 5070ti is like $900 and 5080 is around $1600
I don't think that's worth it
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>>107940186
That explains Nutella and Jensen extreme shilling recently they can clearly see customers aren't buying this useless trash
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>>107940498
>20% of 64 Gb, that should be raising alarms.
Lol no

Even 20% of 1TB wouldn't really be a concern.

Unused RAM IS wasted RAM.
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>>107940464
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/2025-consumer-gpu-content-creation-roundup/
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>>107940519
i only use 50-60% of my 96gb most of da time
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>>107940303
so it found zluda and reposted it
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>>107940517
I still that one time in 2024, fucking core memory, we were presenting "crazy, great, insane AI tool" to one of our customers, it was like a regional boss, some department leaders and some tech guys and at the end one of the department leaders during the Q&A asked the question
>so... what about this was actual AI?
and it even caught the representative of the company developing the tool offguard lmao
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>he didnt install his monitors driver
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i use the alienware command center app to change the color of the lights underneath my monitor and you cannot stop me
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>>107940557
I did tho.

They also have an ICC profile in the driver package, and calibration software if you have the right hardware to use with it.
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>4070 Ti's going up to $700 used now
>3080's at $500
crazy
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*thanklessly protects your hardware from power failures/voltage excursions*
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>>107940557
>>107940609
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>>107939905
lol the funniest thing is that literally nobody can put the brakes on for this shit because they booked all the contracts in advance
and it's not like world governments don't want all the hardware to themselves for ai surveillance after all
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>>107940183
the other anon is correct that different fans have different noises.
I bought a thermalright se 90mm cpu cooler for $15 because it had better noise characteristics compared to alternative fans because a youtube video actually compared a bunch of fans against eachother.
But this was for a 12100f and the stock cooler was simply faulty because it did not have a smooth fan curve, it had steps for no reason. And the $15 90mm fan is overkill for the 12100f, I can run this 12100f at 100% load and the fans never go over 50% while it's at 70-80C.
But the fan you are looking at is a lot better than mine because the contact plate is flat, and it has 2 fans, and it's 120mm, so there is a chance that you will also only run at 50% fan speed, depending on your CPU.
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>>107940617
Do they make any of these big enough for a dual PC setup?
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>>107940617
i can't use lead acid UPSs, they die within like 12-18 months because my power company is shit and has regular brownouts/voltage droop where the batteries kick on for 5-10 minutes, which causes a "cycle" on the battery, and those cheap lead-acid units for UPSs are only rated for 300-500 charge cycles anyway.

Had to buy a Lithium UPS since the batteries have 2000+ charge cycles to them.
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Be real with me

How bad is a glossy QD-OLED monitor in a bright room? I CANNOT light control my room. There is a massive window behind me. I like it open. All room lights are behind me too.
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>>107940640
Yes, though it would depend on the PC.

Most consumer units max out at around 1500VA/1200W, but there is chinese UPS that is fairly new to the market that offers (somewhat) affordable 2000VA/1600W capacity.

That should be fully capable of running two simultaneous heavy computer loads at once.
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>>107940617
i used to have one and one day it randomly popped and smelled like burning so now i'm back to rawdogging it.
it was actually really nice a few times when the power would flicker during a storm but not quite nice enough to bother to buy another
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>>107940642
i think we went over this. get an AVR unit and those voltage drops won't cause it to switch to battery (unless they are really severe, like lower than 90 when it should be 120...)

>>107940640
my pr1500lcd runs my nas, my 3d printer, my pc, my router, modem, and 10gbe switch no issues. It's 1500 watts, so most dual pcs will run off it if, unless they are extremely beefy pcs running at max load.

The one in the image i posted, however, is only 1000 watts albeit it 1/3rd the price of mine. You could run a couple of low-mid range pcs off of it but definitely nothing higher end. Or just one high-end pc.

If you really are running 2 high power pcs consider a 2200-3000 watt unit but these start to get very expensive...
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>>107940676
You say that until one of those little flickers corrupts your OS or kills your PSU.
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>>107940681
>i think we went over this. get an AVR unit and those voltage drops won't cause it to switch to battery (unless they are really severe, like lower than 90 when it should be 120...)
Anon, I always used AVR units, and they don't work that low, they ALWAYS pop over to battery right below 115V.


Pic related, changed the batteries on this fucking thing FORU god damn times until the entire unit died in 2022.
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>>107940656
daymn 1600 watts. i kneel
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>>107940694
>Anon, I always used AVR units, and they don't work that low, they ALWAYS pop over to battery right below 115V.
pretty odd because mine does not switch to battery unless it goes under 90-95 or above ~140-145. Maybe mine just has better avr because it's more expensive, IDK. Hell, my AVR doesn't even click on until around 113/127v, it's okay with small voltage excursions, since i set it to be a little less sensitive than it could be.
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>>107940557
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>>107940695
Check ebay. Cyberpower has a store front that sells refurbished units for a good discount.
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>>107940649
it probably depends on the monitor.
something something true black rating might help.
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>>107940720
im good, check the top of the image, i got it for around 500 new.
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>>107940704
Yeah, and it wasn't even my first unit or experience with those issues.

I had an APC unit for several years experience the same problems, also an AVR unit.

I'm pretty sure my local grid power is just dogshit.

I'm in a really old area of the US which probably doesn't help as the infrastructure is probably old as hell.


Haven't had really any problems with the GoldenMate lithium unit I picked up last month, but it's only been a month, so not really long enough to tell for sure.

The upcoming big snow/ice storm this weekend might be a test though.
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I'm in Asia temporarily and I can get a 5080 for $1436, tax included. wonder if it's worth it to get it and bring it back home to the states? I have a 3080 back at home. looking at the US prices, it seems a few hundred cheaper but I could be wrong
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>>107940649
>I CANNOT light control my room
LG OLED for you then.
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>>107940735
>The upcoming big snow/ice storm this weekend might be a test though.
that's why i thought to bring up ups's at all
>I had an APC unit for several years experience the same problems, also an AVR unit.
my first UPS was some amazon basics crap that was ostensibly a rebranded APC unit, it was junk, it simply didn't work. That's why when i went with a proper oem ups i decided to go cyberpower instead. So far it's been flawless. Just a couple of times where the voltage has gone too far for avr to correct really.

as u can see here ive gone as high as 140v in the last 29 hours and battery has not discharged at all.
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>>107940777
oh yeah it's also at 137v apparently (avr fixing it to 120) and it's not on battery. I just have to assume APC avr is dog ass.
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>>107940735
>>107940704
>>107940777
Found my APC order on Newegg. Only 2 years before the Cyberpower and I think this one, I got it, batteries died within about 1 year, i replaced them, then they died again so I said fuckit, and tried the Cyberpower unit for a while, but it had the same issues.
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>>107940785
both our choices were shaped by bad luck it seems
hopefully both our current shits last for 10 years
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>>107939728
is afterburner still the best thing to use for what it does?
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>>107940821
also holy kek they finally released 4.6.6
is it gud? still on .4
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Do TVs have drivers to install?
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I just want to say, I love this clown world.
I hope you do as well.
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>>107940113
Dumbest poster award. I hope you're joking.
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>>107940118
i had a gigabyte windforce (lowest end model) 960 that ran with absolutely no issues from 2015 to 2022 and it was always on and got dusty as fuck.

It's luck of the draw no matter what brand you get.
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>>107940617
I love my CPL1500 sinewave. It has let me have PSUs that last over 10 years all the time. Worth the $250 every 4 years.
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>>107940885
4 years damn, and i thought i was being stingy with mine. I'm going for 3 years on each battery, gonna grab a new one first thing 2027.
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>be me on the op
>install the PSU
>install the GPU
cleaned the tower inside too
>after about 2 hours
>press power on
>everything just works
>got extra power
>got massive graphics upgrade
>feel tired and bored to play any games
What the point of it all?
>>107939728
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>>107940183
Get the Phantom Spirit, it's an upgrade over the Peerless Assassin.
Ignore this retard: >>107940200
Phantom Spirit is inaudible in my case even under load. Pic related, my build. Entire system is whisper quiet.
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>>107940821
i wish there was a decent alternative. the ui is a trashfire and if you ever an issue googling will eventually lead you to the dev answering questions in a forum or on reddit and finding out he's an autistic turbofaggot
not a dealbreaker for a random utility that you kind of set and forget but all things being equal i'd use an alternative if there was one
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>>107939728
>Pulsar
>>107937191
I watched a few videos on this, they're giving it high praises. pcpartpicker doesn't have a filter for pulsar yet. it essentially sounds like an OLED with forced G-sync and new backlight strobing tech? so it will still suffer from burn-in, and this tech will probably be rolled out to freesync displays in 2 years?
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>>107940923
All pulsar monitors are IPS for now so no burn in
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>>107940899
Any guides on how to replace the battery?
Mine still has about 5 minutes @ 4 years bc I have reliable power but ofc I err on side of caution for surges and sinewave current quality
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>>107940923
and looking around, it looks like these are going to be very expensive for a while. newegg only has these 3 models.
amazon has nothing because when you search pulsar monitor it shows you pulse oximeters, which is a medical tech for measuring your pulse and oxygen saturation levels by clamping to your finger. what a shit website amazon has become.

this will definitely be something to keep my eye on though since I want higher than 1080p with all the autism of benq TN panels.
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>>107940957
look it up for your unit, usually it's just a couple of terminals you have to connect. Dispose of the old one properly don't bury it in your backyard :)
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>>107940116
>think this is still a bad deal
>mfw I check current hdds prices
oh god if something breaks I'm FUCKED
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>>107940845
I DON'T
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>>107940708
>>107940618
>>107940609
>>107940557
You guys are updating your monitor right?
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>>107940845
>>107941062
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>>107941072
One of my monitors from ~2015-16 got a firmware update in like 2018 i installed, but nothing after that.
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should I change my shitty decade old monitor NOW?
I can see this madness spreading everywhere even cheap chink keyboards
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>>107941106
What are you looking to upgrade to? And OLED? I don't really see monitors increasing in price unless it's just from companies using RAM prices as an excuse to price gouge.

OLEDs are in a good place. nVidia™ Pulsar™ is great, but brand new and really only applies to LCD for now.
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>wait for a discounted ps5 pro to pop up in outlet section of retailer
>up all night because can't sleep
>wake up later
>when I was asleep multiple ps5 pros listed and sold out
can a nigga live?
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>>107941106
less people will build this year so peripherals should decrease in price as stock piles up.
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>>107940679
nasty vaxxed breeder cattle
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>>107941106
The OLED & miniLED monitor market is improving every year.
Shame you can't say the same for regular LCD monitors. Pulsar isn't using a special IPS display; it's a novel strobing technique that is compatible with VRR.
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>>107940923
>this tech will probably be rolled out to freesync displays in 2 years
It will never get to freesync (as in, gsync modules on AMD).
And I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia patented their solution (since they really only showed pulsar working last minute, they announced it like 1 or 2 years ago).
ULMB monitors have first came out in 2015, yet AMD has not made any equivalent (Benq dyac doesn't depend on the driver to work, but it does not have VRR, and something about older solutions being not at bright as pulsar).
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>>107941106
How are they supposed to turn monitors into a streaming service bruv. Do you mean because of the components and processing going on inside? I think you're fine.
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why do so many enthusiasts think you need more than 8gigs of vram? most games are designed around that… and even if they aren’t you can always lower your resolution…
is it due to tech tuber influence?
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>>107941248
mohunwilds is pretty much the only game that justifies 16gb.
you can't run over 60fps without a 9800x3d, so increasing graphics settings is the only way to improve the game.
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>>107941248
tech tubers are out of touch. that's why the steam machine is going to ship with an 8GB GPU.
fat lazy developers stopped optimizing their games and as a result all the AAA studios are going out of business.
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>>107940845
I DONT FUC K THIS NIGGER DEMON WORLD
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>>107941227
Pulsar might be rolled into a VESA standard.
Nvidia gave up g-sync once the open standard became good enough.
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>>107941106
I'm going 4K OLED but only because this PC I built literally snoozing on my current monitor setup.
It's actually criminal how little its having to work especially compared to my old PC that was shitting bricks when I tried to play new vidya on it. I thought about a new IPS but ngl, I think my current decade old professional IPS has better picture quality than current models. I don't see any value in buying an IPS monitor again.

My mate said upgrades require upgrades and now I get what he meant ffs

I DON'T WANNA SPEND MORE MONEY
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>>107941321
pulsar requires special type of panel backlight, a specific scalar chip + nvidia gpu support
its kinda niche so im not sure
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>>107941248
I saw someone call a 5070TI a good 1080p card.
I don't know what's going on any more
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>>107941335
The main hurdle is the Nvidia software lock which makes it DoA since OEMs didnt want to deal with licensing modules or buying Mediatek.
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>>107941350
theres some insane inviduals who make mentally ill posts
its not that difficult to spot them
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>>107941335
It's only super specific because it's early in the adoption.
Early G-sync was a specific hardware module because VRR in itself was an entirely new concept. Waiting on scalers to adopt it would delay the new tech coming out.
Scalers did eventually integrate VRR where no specific module was required, and after Vesa VRR matured, Nvidia dropped their specific VRR tech.
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>>107941356
IDK why people act like gsync was never a thing despite following the same exact formula
Also you assume monitor manufacturers actually have an issue with mediatek or that they already aren't using them
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>>107941248
>Uhm the video game still boots, so it's fine, why would anyone think this is bad?
That's not the point retard
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>>107941356
>3d wasn't real
>gsync wasn't real
YOU ARE HERE
>pulsar isn't real
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>>107941350
not wrong if you are talking about internal resolution.
1440p is the new 1080 when you just upscale it to 1440p.
>>107941321
>Nvidia gave up g-sync
ulmb was the main reason for displays to use the dedicated gsync chip.
nobody used ulmb because VRR is better.
Because if you can't hit your monitor's refresh rate, no VRR makes stutters worse.
but people using VRR probably don't get the best experience of VRR, because VRR works best when combined with a frame limiter. VRR itself does not actually fix stutters unless you hit the monitor refreshrate (which then vsync might interfere with cause a stutter due to it's added latency, which is why people set a global frame limit to just below their monitor refresh rate).
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ting ting. you have 10 seconds to post the game that you're currently playing to justify your overpriced GPU purchase
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>>107941403
deadlock.
4070 FE doesn't lock it at 144 fps in 4k on highest settings, so I still need a better card. (or I just need to optimize my settings but I can't be bothered with a closed alpha game)
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>>107941393
>to use the dedicated gsync chip
The hardware module was required for any type of VRR when the tech first came out.
Some monitors continued to use it for ULMB after G-sync became available on other scalers but the module's existence wasn't just for ULMB
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>>107941403
kcd2 runs at like 70 fps on 4k on my current gpu so I kinda wish I had 5070 ti
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>>107941403
hypnospace outlaw
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>>107941403
modded skyrim and starfield :p
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>>107941393
>but people using VRR probably don't get the best experience of VRR
Games with native DLSS Reflex or Radeon Anti-Lag 2 support are supposed to take care of everything you mentioned.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/418E-7A04-B0DA-9032
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>>107941403
RTX3080 and Dungeons & Dragons Online.
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>>107941403
KCD1. Next I will play the second entry. Im taking it slow and I built my box for the future. I hope to squeeze 10 years out of my parts. During summer I wont turn it on at all, so it wont see much action at all.
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>>107941403
Please don't push me away from upgrading. Im tired of being a waitfag.
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https://blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-monitors/

is this website just outdated (2018 post date, no mention of last edit) or is this really the best list of the least blurry monitors? there are no 240hz 1440p displays listed on this page.
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>>107941403
TWW3. It's good to use max settings for once.
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>>107941477
The monitors in that list probably use some Blur-Buster-approved backlight strobing tech, it's irrelevant with OLED + Pulsar.
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>>107941350
Yeah you need a 4090 MINIMUM for 1080p
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just installed my new Phantom Spirit
Bloddy hell, these fan smell like cancer, thats something nobody ever talks baout. Glad i wont use em
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>>107941517
where's the 9000 and 5000 series?
9000 series AMD finally added RT hardware to their cards. and I think it will be an even larger focus on RDNA 5 since that's going to be a large push from Sony on the PS6.
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https://testufo.com/#count=4&background=stars-hdr&text=color(rec2020_0_3_0)&pps=960

testing the blurriness on 240hz oled looks so nice but when your gpu cant push that many in games its a real bummer
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New AMD driver fucks up lately got me puzzled. I'm don't know if I've got driver, issues or hardware. Eitherway I keep disconnecting from my monitor
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>>107941403
that's outdated as shit man we are
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>>107941403
>3080 Ti
>Thief 1/2 fan missions
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>nvidia has driver issues
>nvidia can't get their ARM APUs to work
>nvidia releases new DLSS that decreases performance
have they lost?
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>>107941403
Playing tarkov in 4k
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>>107941403
3d mark
its almost like game right
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>>107941403
modded skyrim, anything else is just a bonus
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>>107941584
nah
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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
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>>107941596
>intel colors
it's over.
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>>107941598
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
Opinion discarded
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I've given them a year to figure it out. is it safe for me to finally update this shit or are they still unstable?

I have a 4070.
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dlss 4.5 god tier
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>>107940030
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>>107941608
>Only offers slow budget cards (their fastest gpu only competes with an rtx 4060)
>Dogshit cpus that are worst than AMD in everything except cinebench point whoring with a 300 watt overclock
Objectively the worst pc you can build
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>>107941596
>>107941607
>Jensen Outlines "Largest Infrastructure Buildout in Human History" During WEF Q&A

seems we are not stopping for few years
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>>107941584
>>nvidia releases new DLSS that decreases performance
Reminder that RDNA3 card owners still want the less performant FSR4 to be officially supported for their buggy trash.
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>brandwarring resumes
boring
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>>107941649
fsr4 on rdna3 doesn't perform worse than native, dlss 4.5 performs worse than native.
I really hope you're being paid for these posts, otherwise this behavior is just sad.
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>>107941638
Not only false on both counts, but they are the best horse to bet on with what the future currently holds.
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>>107941663
>dlss 4.5 performs worse than native.
Not for the cards with actual hardware to support it.
You can stay retarded.
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>>107939728
Found 32gb DDR5 6000mhz Cl30 for 150 dollars should i buy? It's way too overpriced, a few months back i found one for like 100 dollars.
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>arguing over fake frames and fake pixels
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>>107941675
>cards with hardware that doesn't exist unitl rtx 6000 series
ok.
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>>107941649
DLSS 4 and 4.5 can't even render shadows without flickering in cyberpunk you stupid whoreson
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DLSS 4.5
ULTRA PERFORMANCE
PRESET L
FRAME GENERATION
GOD TIER 4K GAMING
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>he boughted njeetia and now will have to spend the long hardware winter of 2025-2030 using microslop spyware 11 getting doxxed left right and center by palantir while amdchads will be cruising on linux powered and maintained by valve software
big yikes right there, super cringe
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>>107941684
Stay in your retardeon lane.
DLSS 4.5 is 1~2 quality levels above what DLSS 4 offers.
Forget about FSR4.
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>>107941687
Searching for posts with the image hash ‘c5rxZN/s2Va7Qlc63Rh0mg==’. 38 results found.

39 now
here comes the endless spam until he falls asleep again
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>>107941705
>posts an image proving my point that dlss 4.5 is worse than native on ALL NVIDIA GPUS
bro...
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>>107941682
>Brand wars pre 2018 were about which card could run a game the fastest with no tricks, value for money, and overclocking potential
>Post 2018 brand wars are schizos posting 500 percent zoomed in still frames arguing over which fake upscaled pixels look better
Nvidia ruined the fun of shit talking about computers forever
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>>107941680
Link it so I can
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>>107941687
>and 4.5 can't even
Classic Retardeon®, posting stale as fuck WEBMs.
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>>107941705
Why are you posting a game where your shitty DLSS makes all the vegetation shadows flicker? >>107941687
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>>107941564
I think you replied to the wrong person.
so where am I supposed to find autism regarding low blur?
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oh my god DSR is so GOD TIER
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>>107941722
Prove it's fixed stupid fag. Until it's proven that nvidia fixed it the webm will remain valid no matter how many desuarchive screenshots you spam
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>>107941716
>is worse than native
Retardeon can't even read AMDUnboxed's charts properly. Brain damage confirmed.
DLSS 4.5 Performance & Ultra Performance provides better image quality and motion stability compared to DLSS4's equivalent settings.
It's a net-positive.
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>>107941628
you said this about DLSS 2 too lil bro
and then when AMD beat it, apparently it was shit all along
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Is it worth it upgrading to am5 now, disregard the ram prices.
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AMD never beat it lol especially not with any FSR garbage
don't @ me again I don't entertain nicotroon's nonsense
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DLSS also broken in BF6 and Nvidia still never fixed it either LOOOOL
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>>107941744
>Prove it's fixed stupid fag
It's fixed because you can't find that same blurry source on DLSS 4.5.
Reminder that plenty of 9070 XT card owners are contributing to the RTX 5070 Ti and 5080 shortages by switching over to these cards before the industry-wide video card shortages hit.
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>>107941745
it's ok. nvidia can make mistakes. I bought them at $13 and I have a 4070. it doesn't mean that 4.5 isn't a performance loss, or that their ARM APUs haven't released, or that drivers weren't extremely unstable when the 5000 series released.
retard.
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>wherever I am I must spam
>nonstop just spam spam spam
>I wish I didn't get banned for posting my nicoshit avatar spam
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>>107941757
You might as well wait for Zen 6 -X3D CPUs, but I would buy an 8000MT/s kit with good timings if you find a good deal for it.
Rumors are saying Zen 6 will support faster memory speeds with a new sweet spot.
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>>107941773
>It's fixed because durrrrrr
>Retarded statement he has no proof for
Take yourself out of the gene pool with castration or a rope downie
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>>107941785
I can post nico or any other love live whenever i want. It's crazy the stupid headcanons you guys come up with. Haven't been banned once for posting a love live girl.
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>>107941782
>4.5 isn't a performance loss
Even 1440p DLSS 4.5 Quality isn't a performance loss vs. native for a 4070 Super.
The 4.5 presets are meant to be used on Performance (M) or Ultra Performance (L).
They're faster than native when you follow the recommendations.
4.5 Quality is faster than native and looks better because it cleans up TAA.
Stop being retarded.
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>>107939728
I tought PC prices were supposed to be fucked? This looks like a great deal though.
That's CAD too.
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>>107940695
You think that's huege? Check out enterprise rack mounted ones, specially with extra batteries. Can literally run whole room with a 2kW load for a day.
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>>107941797
Why can't you post the same area with DLSS 4.5 presenting the same flaws? Because no content creator can replicate it.
Most of all, you're too poor to own a 5070 Ti to test this out for yourself.
Enjoy being stuck with that regret for the next 5~10 years, that's your poorfag upgrade cycle.
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>>107941813
Literally 0 point in upscaling if you get 2 more fps vs native lmao. This shit is worthless for anything except 5090 at 4k pathtracing stop shilling
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>>107941840
>Literally 0 point in upscaling if you get 2 more fps vs native lmao
It looks better than native TAA, that's the RDNA3 card owner's argument when they're begging for FSR4.

No one's forcing people to use DLSS 4.5 presets (M, L) @ Quality or DLAA.
Those people are running the model outside NVIDIA's recommendation.
That's why it's DLSS 4.5, not DLSS5
4.5 improves DLSS4's Performance & Ultra performance presets; it's never meant to be a complete upgrade.
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>>107941403
Arknights Endfield
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>>107941813
this is pathetic bro. get a real job. the pennies you're earning from this won't help you afford a PC.
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Dude wtf I finally bothered to update to the latest driver for my 5060 ti and now I'm getting a fucking timeout after 20-30 minutes on games. I already did DDU and reinstalled, did not resolve the issue
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>>107941350
If you play with all the gaytracing pathslop at max, even the 5090 becomes a 1080p card
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>>107941884
Not that anon but he is not wrong, even the biggest amd shill like ancient gameplays said that dlss 4.5 improvements are really good, you have to remember that DLAA 4.0 is still upscaling from TSR ro TAA that are blurrier in motion, so 4.5 DLSS quality its actually improve DLAA 4.0 K in terms of image clarity
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why is nicotroon obsessed about the 5060 ti
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>>107941884
I don't need a new PC, I don't have to settle for Radeon cards like you needed to.
You had to settle for a cheaper 9070 XT model than the Hellhound you originally wanted because you couldn't afford the premium, and your poorfag case was too small for it.
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>>107941898
Grats now your setup is bricked. We warned you about those drivers bro.
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>>107941908
never use DLAA because I don't have a titan class card. so it literally doesn't matter for 99.99% of gamers if this is just a DLAA boost.
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>>107941922
the point was from now and in the future if the model becomes heavier than native it does not mean that it cant improve over native to justify it on top end hardware, if you have a 5090 playing on dlss 4.5 preset L on quality unironically looks better than 4.0 k on dlaa and is heavier too
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>>107941918
>admit to having a 4070
>retarded bot can't break programming so projects a 9070 xt onto me
based AI.
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>>107941930
>>admit to having a 4070
Except I don't own a 4070.
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>>107941919
I have that card and on the latest driver and i have 0 timeouts, nicotroon or the german canadian shitposter that has a 4070 and a 9070 XT seem obsessed about that card lately
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It's a bad time to upgrade right? I wonder if I should buy a prebuilt upgrade or one of those configured builds before prices for those skyrocket too
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>>107941929
ok but the 60 class is their highest sales in every generation, and nobody is running DLAA on a 60 class.
I'm happy that the 0.01% of gamers that have a titan class card have a new screen blur filter, but if that's all 4.5 is it's completely irrelevant for gamers.
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>>107941935
I'm not using that PC anymore and have a new one that costs more then the shack you live in pajeet.
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>>107941935
>>107941940
proof that brand shills are ESL being paid pennies per hundred posts. amazing they haven't replaced you with AI yet. I guess you're still cheaper than the amount of power it takes them to do it with a bot.
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>>107941961
ASUS Prime is not better than the Hellhound you originally wanted.
>'If you call me out as the mentally ill retard I am, you own a 4070, and you're an Indian!'
I accept your concession.

These are all the perfectly sane ramblings Nico shared at the end of last year.
He probably had a meltdown seeing all the affordable 5070 Tis.
https://voca.ro/13vv77kPdIQd
https://voca.ro/1cNaaihxvNC4
https://voca.ro/1pweR7oU7bhR
https://voca.ro/12B7YHnAYj16
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>>107941953
Anon the performance of 4.5 gets lower the most agressive upscaling you use, at performance mode on a 5060 ti 16gb tier card the performance hits is less than 5% , daniel owen tested it on a 5060 ti 16gb at 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7goOdiaSU

You can easily take a 5070 ti vs 9070 XT, 5070 vs 9070, 5060 ti vs 9060 XT and MATCH image quality and see which one ends up having way more FPS using DLSS 4.5, both ancient gameplays and daniel owen tested it and they concluded that you would have to run FSR quality to come even close to DLSS 4.5 performance to have a fair image quality comparison and as you can see DLSS 4.5 is not heavy enough to give you less fps than FSR quality let alone , against DLSS 4.0 you are still looking better than balance and having similar performance so you gained image quality rather than performance depending against which model you compare as long as you match either fps or image quality
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>>107941917
>>107941940
I fucking hate this thread and remember why I stopped coming here again now. I post an issue im having hoping someone will have some advice or help and you terminally online NIGGERS drag me into your schizo brand wars. Last time I came here for help a year ago same thing happened where I got that retarded dlss schizo replying to my post with irrelevant nonsense but at least he seems to be gone now.
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>>107941948
>>107941816
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>>107941976
Anon you have to take your meds, you cant even buy nvidia cards at the moment, every card is sold out except a 5060 8gb and some 5080, why would anyone be shilling nvidia at the moment
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>>107941976
>brand shills
You're having another meltdown because /pcbg/ doesn't give you the validation you're desperate for.
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>>107941961
>9070 XT
>calls others pajeet
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>107941990
Reminder that spamming about nvidia cards being 50 percent faster or whatever than radeon because of upscaling is the exact shitposting that dlss schizo does. This is likely him returning to the thread now that DLSS4.5 is out to shill and spam again.
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>>107941992
You are not having any issue anon, if you were you would not have specificed your card which was not relevant, seriously you are actually mentally ill
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>>107942021
Anon, ANCIENT GAMEPLAYS said it, not me, not the DLSS 4 schizo or whateer boogeyman you created to cope
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>>107941990
>5070 vs 9070, 5060 ti vs 9060 XT
You can't use dlss 4.5 on lower end nvidia cards because the performance penalty is too high. They don't have enough tensor cores. You don't even know what you're talking about shill
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>>107941990
I don't think you understand why people care about upscaling. it increases performance without degrading image quality in a meaningful way. if the upscaling is not increasing performance over native then people don't want it.
and nvidia has fucked up their marketing so much that some gamers are confusing frame gen with upscaling and are just opting out of all of it because they think it all leads to ghosting and increased latency.
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>>107942032
watch the video anon, the 5060 ti16gb performance hit using the heavier model at performance mode is 3% at 1440p and less than 5% at 4k.

Both daniel owen and ancient gampleyas have praised AMD and shilled their cards all year long
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>>107942023
Whatever go fuck yourself. I specified my model cuz idk maybe I thought that could be relevant when having a gpu related issue? I'll just go ask on reddit. This place is useless because you guys just call anyone that needs help whatever trannie shitposter you're arguing with for the week.
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>>107942050
I'm not watching a 30 minute video that tells me dlss 4.5 causes a performance loss over native.
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>>107942032
Why is this ASUS 9070 XT Prime owner telling people how to run DLSS 4.5?
A 5070 and 5060 Ti can run DLSS 4.5 at Performance just fine.
DLSS is different from FSR4; stay in your lane.
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>>107942044
>if the upscaling is not increasing performance over native

But its doing it, when you match native image quality vs DLSS 4.5 rather than focusing on the mode you'll get better image stability on motion and better fps
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>>107942056
you are not fooling anyone retard, you just wanted to shitpost
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OLED burn in acceptance end stage
>TCL miniled TV
>Pulsar monitor
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>>107941403
hellniggers
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>>107942065
the fps is the same, or lower. literally nobody that actually games cares about this. >>107941705
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>>107942075
they literally just buy another oled
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>>107942075
good thing is most of their OLED will be burnt in and ready to be disposed of as pulsar is becoming more common.
both waitchads and oledfags won this time.
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>>107942087
Anon i know that this must be difficult to accept but dlss 4.5 quality is way better than native
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PdQKJzNnU
FSR 4 Ultra Performance at 4k looks perfectly fine to me. But I guess I'm not allowed to use it because of the latest techtuber vids about dlss 4.5 and an anonymous shitposter in this thread saying the image quality isn't good enough to be matched
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>>107942100
>>107942044
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>>107941994
That's now, but who knows what'll happen as things get worse
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>>107942101
You can only use it because you don't know better.
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>>107942113
Again match image quality, DLSS 4.5 provides better image quality, stability and fps when you match them, why the fuck are you so obsessed about native, quality, etc rather than looking at the image in motion and deciding for yourself is it actually one DLSS SCHIZO or not
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>>107942124
I care about performance. just like everybody else who uses upscaling.
I do not give a shit about image quality. stop talking about it. nobody who actually plays games cares about that.
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>>107942138
but you do gain performance if you care about that, now you can use DLSS ultra performance and gain much more performance without the upscaling falling apart
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>>107942094
then they haven't reached end stage, they are stuck in the negotiation/denial phase
>the tech will have improved
>I don't care

but true, once burned oledfags have 2 options, they swear off oled forever or double down
there are no alternatives

>>107942099
I burned in my phone with a guesstimate 1000hours+ of use only
noticeable in daily use? no because the task bar
see on color patterns? yes

now people are glazing pulsar over 480hz oled too

why can't they implement this on TVs? that's the only upside of lcd tvs, strobing
why does most VA tvs seem horrendously slow these days?
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>>107942140
>graph not found
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This matching image quality bullshit was DLSS schizos whole schtick btw. No one ever shilled this way except him. He disappeared like 6 months ago because he got exposed as a pedo but now that 4.5 is out he is here to shill that 5070 ti is twice as fast as 9070 XT cuz of this shit or whatever, meanwhile his personal rig is still a poorfag 4070 5600x build with all sata ssds
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>>107942138
>I do not give a shit about image quality. stop talking about it. nobody who actually plays games cares about that.
Indian confirmed.
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>>107942162
These are the poorfag specs of this pedophile shilling in the thread right now.
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>>107942162
You say you don't care about image quality, but you've posted that Cyberpunk foliage WEBM over 50 times.
Absolute schizo behavior, or you're just moving the goalpost.
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>>107942176
He's not here anymore, you paranoid retard.
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>>107942138
>>I do not give a shit about image quality.
lol spoken like a true AMDjeet
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post specs right now and prove you're not indian
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>>107942156
Anon if you care about FPS and not image quality then you would prefer using agressive upscalings method like performance or ultra performance, and its shown here, the new model is not significantly heavier on those presets >>107942050
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>ask for specs
>posting immediately ceases
just as I thought, rajesh and gupta, you must stop fighting
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>>107942211
>an image that's so blurry you can't read it
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>>107942237
If you cant read that then of course FSR 4 looks good to you, you are blind as fuck
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>>107942243
you must have a 720p display if you can read that image.
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>>107942254
anon you need glasses
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I feel discouraged from using my pc now knowing someday it will die and I'll never be able to own a pc again
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>>107941680
that ram cost's 800$ in my country direct conversion with eu tax
during summer 64gb was 100€ too

>>107941477
just buy the 600hz tn asus or benq or just wait wait a month until pulsar monitors drop unless they have dropped in your country already which in case buy
or buy a 500hz oled if you can run 500fps in select titles
those old ass viewsonics are not even available in various regions and if they are they cost too much or some other retarded shit
paying insane amounts for an oled 1080p panel
I hate monitors

>>107940649
1) the glare issue
2) the raw nits power issue
you have glossy+only 250 nits full screen
if you have a 500nit lcd maybe you are gonna get cooked
really depends

>>107941816
prebuilts become good deals if you need a full pc and everything individually has gone up
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>>107942162
>matching image quality bullshit
many people have that take also, logical take if amd can't compete with the upscaling
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>>107942273
If your PC is relatively new, use it while the manufacturer's warranty is available.
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>>107942300
see >>107942199 prove you are not the indian with the 5080 and 5060 ti
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Q U I C K ! !
I'm upgrading from a RX 5700 XT and was considering the 5070 mainly because the AMD software has been kinda shitty for me and I've had to do a bunch of AMD driver workarounds for specific games so it's left a bad taste in my mouth.

but are these concerns kinda dated, like my card is?
Is AMD software/driver compatibility not terrible anymore? should I go for the RX 9070 instead?

I play 1440p and I don't care about maxing out settings I'd rather want high smooth framerate.
Seems like "enthusiasts" are hating on AI upscaling but that's another reason I'm considering Nvidia, I doubt that I would notice these artifacts or whatever when gaming.


sooo... 5070 or 9070?
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>>107942309
>prove you are not indian
>posts all amd pc
stop talking to me
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>>107942273
Undervolt your GPU and don't OC it above the stock operating frequencies if you're worried about its longevity.
CPU can also be undervolted, but it's more annoying to stability test.
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>>107942176
Uh why does he use Nvidia if he's a AMD shill?
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>>107942332
AMD's improved their driver & hardware issues since the 5700 XT overall.
RX 9000 is their first real GPU with decent RT & upscaling support.

DLSS is better than FSR4, but don't overpay too much for a 5070 if you don't need CUDA.
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>>107942332
>I've had to do a bunch of AMD driver workarounds for specific games
then look how those games run on a 9070, this time AMD won't pull the plug early because they straight up won't make new cards in the near future
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>>107942385
Nico thinks someone here is the DLSS Schizo/Shill/Spammer™.
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>>107942332
Depends on how often do you upgrade, AMD abandoned both RDNA 3 and RDNA 2 in terms of feature so i would expect them to do the same in 2 years when RDNA 5 launches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs
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Anyone else buiiiiilding this weekend?
I'm ready 2 rock
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I only come here for the 6850X3D rumours to make my build >>107942199 perfect
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if I get my dream 6850X3D which is a 7800X3D for am4 I will only upgrade when we get a real update to desktop PCs, like quad channel memory, something revolutionary
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>>107942273
how can it die if you never turn it off?
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is it just me or did SSD rpices spike for like a day and then come right back down? i swear i saw 4 TBs for a grand
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>>107942503
>>107942519
they're not making AM4 server parts anymore. you're not getting any new AM4 CPUs.
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>>107942445
RDNA 3 backwards doesn't have proper hardware for AI features like upscaling. There is no reason to believe RDNA 4 won't get FSR 5. It's like if someone said the rtx 20 series would never get dlss 2 because gtx 10 series didn't get dlss 1.0
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>>107942473
Yep..I have to before I run out of return window to Amazon by Jan 31st
>got COVID for 1 week (2.5 weeks ago)
>had to make up work
>get rear ended and now have physical therapy
2026 really isn't my year and the anxiety is killing me I hope I don't have to RMA or return anything or fuck up anything
Also work is stressful as shit and makea me dog tired after work and I don't wanna mess up building if I am tired and hurting and it's dark/no sun by 6pm
Frelling sucks
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>5 years old 6800 XT still competent for my shitty japanese ports at 4k
>Almost 9 years old Ryzen 1700 still decent for said games and overall system performance
>No need for upgrade but starting to panic due to all hardware shortage going on
Man I hate this timeline, my plan was to wait until late this year for Zen 6 and leave the GPU upgrade for next generation but now with this whole shit happening I don't think I'll be able to hold up.
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>>107942548
They have WMMA, even the psr6 which has RDNA 3.5 is getting PSSR 2.0 which is a variation of fsr4.0 based on the leak but the real kick in the nuts its RDNA2 being on the maintenance branch, look at nvidia their cards cant do fp8 but they still can get dlss 4.5, for amd is the same they have int8 there is no reason you cant official support the int8 version
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>>107942535
Stores still have old stock
OEMs are selling 4TB for that
oh wait it went up it was $999 last time I checed
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>>107942570
waitchads always win. I skipped DDR4 entirely. don't get FOMO. I went from a core i7 860 with like a gtx 260 originally, to a gtx 1060, to this. only other upgrade was from HDD to SSD.
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>>107942592
I'm considering a "middleground" upgrade, 1700 to 5800xt and get 32gb DDR4 instead of my current 16gb, keeping GPU and build a small home server with the 1700, only needing to buy an entry-level AM4 board.
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What's everyone's go-to 9070 XT Samsung memory OC?
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>>107942682
>>107942682
>>107942682
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>wanted to keep my old case running for longer since it's still good, just the dust filters are starting to shit out
>find a single store online that makes and sells custom dust filters for my case
>it's $58, but i've had this case for a decade already and I would love to keep using it for another decade so fuck it why not
>order placed on Christmas
>finally ships Jan 22nd
>it's shipping from south africa

You know what, at least it's shipping at all, I was starting to get worried.
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>>107942570
I have a similar build to yours (6600xt, 5600x), but I panicked and just ordered some new parts for a brand new computer (9070xt, 9800x3d). Probably not necessary and the regret may sink in soon, but honestly having something that'll last me a long time feels better than waiting and potentially being left in the dust.
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>>107942697
Nicotranny thread with misinfo in OP
Ingore
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>>107942732
My fear is of any parts breaking downn in the near future, as they are all relatively old (motherboard especially). I hope for that to not be the case but yeah.
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>>107942753
parts don't just randomly break. this isn't the 90's.
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>>107942753
I feel that too. At least now with a new one, my old will be a trusty spare that I can have on standby if anything does go wrong.
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>>107942764
You say that but I had multiple HDDs, 1 motherboard, 1 PSU and 2 GPUs stop working randomly at me in the past 17 years. Shit just happens sometimes.
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>>107942773
>>107942773
>>107942773

Follow me to my magical realm of unbiased shitposting.
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>>107941565
based desu
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>>107941961
>Asus prime 9070XT
NGMI
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>>107942626
2700 fast timings
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>>107944382
crashes on my machine



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