water cooling is a meme

What are my prebuilt options ? I was looking at ebay and newegg for something less than $2,000 ?

Nicotranny thread OP with removed info for Intel microcode and biased GPU section again

>>107942752
>removed info for Intel microcode
If you buy pootel you deserve to have your shit break so that's based actually

>>107942682
>*Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems
This is honestly mental illness

Seek help OP.

I watched the recent hub ram video and it seems like 16 gigs is still fine 99 percent of the time so fuck it I'm gonna do it. 32 is just too much so I'll just buy another stick like 10 months from now if I need it

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>>107942795
>*Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems
its true tho
pic related your RTX when it driver timeouts

>>107942812
you don't need anything buuuh, like what games are worth playing right now?

USA, Budget preferably under $350
I've been playing around with AI image generation with ComfyUI on my laptop with a 4050 Mobile 6GB, it's cool but the VRAM is limiting of course. Looking to get a desktop GPU to put in one of my PCs so I can use larger models. Need a GPU with 16GB of VRAM (or more) that can do the job on the cheap, doesn't need to be fast, just effective. I was looking at older workstation cards on eBay but don't know much about those.
TL;DR: best value cheap new or used GPU with 12-16GB+ of VRAM for AI image generation? May also end up using it for video editing and encoding.

>>107942812
why are you taking PC building advice from p*rn hub?

>>107942812
I've been thinking similar but for ssds. How bad would it actually be to with a 500 gig only instead of 1tb which is often called the minimum? I got fast interest to uninstall and reinstall shit lots so it should be okay right?

Ok you fuckers panicked me. I got 5090, 128 gb ram, 9950 x3d, and other crap. I basically bought it all in one shot. $10k. Damned if I wait damned if I don’t.

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My PSU is an old 850W EVGA Supernova G3 purchased around its release date in 2017 (heavy usage, mostly gaming, since then). I was thinking of upgrading my graphics card to a 9070XT, but I know that PSUs degrade over time and that newer cards have bad transient spikes. Also iirc EVGA is dead now. Should I replace the old PSU for the 9070XT as well? Or am I just being paranoid?

>>107942849
I wish I had that kinda money to throw around. Have fun bro.

>>107942821
AMD cards work good in comfyui now with rocm on windows and latest driver has a bundle to set it all up for you even. So you could go 9070 or 9070 XT being as 5070 ti prices have gone insane again.

>>107942821
Renting AI gpu's is better.
Obviously the only reason why you would rent is because you are generating porn, because the free AI image websites don't allow porn (well, they have a lot of anime AI models that could make porn, huggingface spaces has some nsfw spaces running wild, but they say it's against their TOS, unless it's a corpo model like nano banana).
So you could rent like 48gb for like 50 cents an hour (I think it's billed per minute).
I personally don't mess with image generation, I only do LLM's. But I'm sure there is a youtube video that goes through everything you need to setup through "vast ai" or huggingface (you need to duplicate a space, and you host it youself?) or whatever (lambda labs? I never did any research on it).
For owning hardware, gaming is the best benefit.
You should probably just wait, rent, then buy when ram prices go down (ideally after the AI bubble pops).

>>107942870
why does the concept of saving up for something just not exist anymore? people act like its an impossible thing to do

>>107942790
That actually looks pretty beautiful, all about not having as many cables as possible I guess.

>>107942898
$10,000 is a lot of money to drop on a computer. I could if I really wanted to, but I don't make enough money to justify spending 1/3 of my bank account on it. If I won the lottery or had an insanely lucrative career it would be a different story.

>>107942876
Oh cool! I have a 5700XT right now, maybe I will give that a shot. Sadly, 8GB VRAM. Honestly, it might be sufficient for the size of models I've been using. Just wanting to get an idea of other options, and I have the itch to buy dumb bullshit recently.
>>107942881
Yes it's for porn gen lol. That's a thought, idk though. I'm very new to this but maybe it will be worth it when I'm better at prompting so I get the most out of it.

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I just ordered this for $130. Am I retarded?

Apparently this card uses a chip meant for laptops. All the "enthusiasts" are shitting all over it.

I don't play any modern popular AAA slop games.

>>107942849
Damn dude, that's about as much as the inheritance money I got for my 18th. Still haven't spent any of it.

>>107942929
>Am I retarded?
yes you bought a new card without driver support

If you want answers come here, ignore the Nicobabby shill
>>107942773
>>107942773

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>>107942682
naw pcb is cooked

>>107942943
It was released ~4 years ago

>>107942929
Do you get a return period or is it a final sale?

>>107942929
yes, but if you already have a shitty PC that complements it, you got what you paid for.
Like, a 3050 6gb would cost like 30% more, but it would be 30% faster + DLSS would help a lot if you pirated cyberpunk (but amd is probably a tiny bit more comfy on linux, but the 3050 would get better fps in linux).
And a 5060 TI / 9060 would cost 3x more, but it would be 3x faster.
You could have done worse honestly. Like at least you didn't get a GT 1030.

>107942947
Salty loser that's mad this OP is slightly different so be made a spam thread. Just ignore

>>107942717
600w GPU disagree.

>>107942943
Latest adrenalin has fixes for 6000 and even 5000 series in the notes. Stop lying in these threads making people feel bad for nothing

>>107942834
It's about 3 modern games installed at the same time or 2 modern games and about 10 to 100+ indies/retro so yeah there's room for variety assuming you store your movies, own videos and lossless songs somewhere else on your phone, tablet or media center.

>>107942929
Tbh shouldve just got a used 5700XT for a similar price but double VRAM and almost double performance, it does draw less power though at least

>>107942961
I think it's RMA only.
>>107942968
>cyberpunk
I only play low end shit like Hades, my monitor is 1080p 75hz. I am not sure I needed a more powerful card

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are the drivers stable now? is it safe to update?
I have a 4070.

>>107942943
>>107942980
>>107942958
Mesa is still getting driver updates for GPUs as old as the PS4 GPU.

>>107943033
Only solution if you want 100% stable drivers is to buy a 9070 XT. 4070 is garbage anyway, it's time to upgrade.

>>107942870
I don’t consider $10k as an impossible expenditure. I literally saved it up over several months

>>107942995
you should upgrade your monitor, the 6500 XT is too strong for it honestly.
you could hold onto the monitor if it has freesync (VRR), but if it doesn't, get any new $100 1080p monitor with more FPS.
If you like movie/film a lot and want a monitor that "looks better", since after all, a $100 high refresh monitor will look SICK due to more fps, but the actual panel is still IPS so blacks still look the same. This monitor is only in the US, 1440p isn't that big, your 6500 XT can handle it if you enable FSR or you just lower the resolution of your display (I think the AMD adrenalin tool has a setting to enable Fidelity FX for all games, so even old games can be upscaled but the fonts will look crusty).
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn

>>107943049
NTA but you're living in a bubble or being very obtuse. For most amerilards this is unaffordable as they live paycheck to paycheck. If you didn't know that just google it and have a better understanding of your country's current turmoils, but if you knew that already then stop flexing on an anonymous forum where everybody can be anybody.

>>107943047
I'm being serious. fuck off with the brand war.

Just ordered a 9070xt and a 9800x3d. Will an 850w psu will be enough? I have a vr headset that I sometimes use so I just want to be sure I don't fuck something up.

>>107943055
*I forgot to mention it's a $350 mini-led (I had a stroke writing that).
so normal LCD displays just have one big LED in the back, but a miniled has zones, this one has 1000 zones.
But for $150 more you could get a qd-oled (it's objectively better, but has a purple color to it in a bright room). But the concern is that it needs to be replaced faster due to burn in, and font clarity.
And apparently the option in adrenalin is not called Fidelity FX, it's called RSR (Radeon Super Resolution, but it's technically the same thing).

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MLID HUB in shambles

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-reportedly-raises-geforce-rtx-50-distributor-pricing-asus-and-gigabyte-to-follow

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>>107943097
>brand war
AMD gpu are garbage, he said he will do this until we send him enough for a 5070 TI because his mom got him a 9070 XT, do you even realize how useless their garbage are to the point their marketshare is on single digits? unless an anon specifically wants to run linux you should never recommend them if the nvidia alternative is even remotely in price, with the exception of the 9060 XT 8gb over the 5060 if you have an anient mobo wit hpci-express 3.0

>>107943142
>dishonest misinterpretation of what was claimed
based retard.

>>107943162
remotely close in price

>>107943162
ok but are the nvidia drivers stable now? as you can see I haven't updated in over a year. >>107943033

>>107943097
What brand war? Nvidia owns 94% of the market, AMD 6%, Intel 0%.

AMD need to stick to playstations.

>>107943100
yes

>>107943180
566.36 is still the best for everything before RTX 5000

>>107943210
that looks like complete shit for how much performance it demands holy fuck i thought it was some point and click

>>107943162
Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

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>>107943181
>Nvidia owns 94% of the market, AMD 6%, Intel 0%
lying FAGGOT. As of last quarter, Nvidya lost 1.2% market share mostly to Intel.

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bros my 5070ti just came in

>>107943210
>5060 ti 116
>8060s 38
radeon APU's have no access to FSR4 anon, the 5060 ti can archive a much higher frame rate than that while matching the image quality on the left and you know it, even though i think what happening there is that the 5060 ti is having vram buffer issues which again can be fixed lowerin the textures or using a more agressive upscaling method

Take note of all the amd-positive shillposts in the thread and enjoy.

>>107943238
Pics with timestamp or it didn't happen.

>also sharpie in pooper

>>107943238
grats bro, enjoy it

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>>107943181
>AMD need to stick with the foundation of gaming

>>107943238
nice bro, 5070ti's are ike $1000 now

>>107943238
Dang, how'd you get a deal like that? Is it because that one is refurbished?

>>107942795
>This is honestly mental illness
The 12vhwpr connector is dogshit and does melt there are thousands of post regarding that unsafe connector stop being a faggot shill

>>107943275
Out of the millions of Nvidia GPUs sold THOUSANDS had issues?

Wow, why hasn't everyone started buying AMD instead?

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>>107943275
Yep it's a shitty design.

>>107943275
it's because they're pushing more power through it than the previous safety standards.
stupid decision, but whatever, this is where we're at now.

>>107943262
its a refurbed prebuilt so likely it didnt post or something happened that caused it to be returned

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>>107943244
>>107943247
>>107943254
thx bros
>>107943262
nyes bro, ive bought multiple laptops from acer and every time they arrived like new, even this pc is like new, the plastic from the pc isnt even ripped off yet

>>107943285
>Somehow more 9070 XTs are burning than 5090s.
How the fuck is this even possible? Are AMD boards just that badly made?

>>107943392
>more 9070 XTs are burning than 5090s
Doubt. But in general that connector is a shit design.

the downfall of the connector is, the margins are so tight there is zero headroom for shit crimps on the cable. Then people buy questionable Chinkshit for looks and run it without measuring, putting their faith in nonexistant chink QA

>>107943238
Nutty deal

>>107943234
Am i a schizophrenic? Yes, i am.

>>107943392
statiscally more nvidias are burning because they all come with the connector now. you will only find the connector on 3 specific amd models (sapphire nitro, asrock taichi, some other premium model). the rest are safe with double or triple 8-pins.

Intelbros won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkcyIggMGEs

>>107943485
wtf I love Intel now?

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so depressing even when I secured myself PC and backup for now I just know it will be long time until the PC building heals

>>107943485
>more panther lake shit
I don't care
Just get to Nova Lake
why are youtubers acting like anyone gives a fuck about laptops

>>107943033
Driver 581.57 has no issues as far as I'm aware. Been using it on my 4090 FE and I can still use DLSS 4.5 Preset M and L.

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>all gpus in my country are 160% MSRP except the fucking 5060ti 8gb
It's over

>>107943033
>he has spyware on his pc
do nvtards actually?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/698930/powerspec-g457-gaming-pc

Looking at this one, any opinions ?

So I'm recycling my old build, just bought a mini mobo and case to keep it by the tv or something, what's a good GPU to handle old games and streaming and stuff, at first I was thinking a 16 gig 5060 but damn son I didn't realize how bad it gotten maybe I need a 30 series?

>>107943638
looks pretty solid bro, now that 5070ti's are worth $1000 its even better

>>107942862
> Or am I just being paranoid?
Yes.

>>107943641
3060 is the old games king, 3080 is the old games god king

get one of those

>>107943638
It's fine as long as your microcenter doesn't have the 7800X3D or 9800X3D versions of that same prebuilt, which are generally better for gaming.

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>>107943638
Looks okay but these used to be $1500-1600

>>107943651
Did people mine on those? Much risk buying used?

>>107943711
the paste likely pumped out by now so you have to repaste it

>>107942717
a friend's PC idles louder than my water loop is at full blast

>>107943033
Let me help you:
https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

Is there any reason to not get the 9600x over the 7600x? It's a $10 difference

>>107943751
erm its well known amd stops updating their old gpus when new ones comes out unlike nvidia

What's a good hard drive for storing files? I heard SSDs aren't great for long-term file storage and I'm weighing my options.

>>107943759
Nice FUD lying nvidiot scum shit
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-1-1.html
Latest driver release yesterday has fixes for rx 5000 even

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>>107942929
grim

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https://www.techpowerup.com/345503/amd-officially-confirms-ryzen-7-9850x3d-msrp-usd-499-launching-on-january-29

>>107943919
Is it really just a slightly overclocked 9800X3D?

>>107943759
>>107943792
Ja they do stop supporting old hardware sooner than nvidiot but the truth is nvidiot rarely has any actual "improvements" in newer drivers for old releases.

Just buy what you think is best for your usecase and budget.

>>107943919
What happened to 9600X3D??

>>107943956
>9600X3D
why bother when nobody buys the 7600X3D
90% of Zen5% sales are the 9800X3D there's no point releasing anything else

>>107943180
if it works stay on it
these new ones are suspicious and often unstable
e.g. debian still did not include any drivers for blackwell and in few months it will be a year since they were released

hopefully by the time (if) ram stuff gets sorted out intel will have decent gpus on offer.
not a fan of ngridia anymore.
and amd is the same but worse hardware.

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>Nakato described the current NAND market as a “high-end, high-price phase,” and linked the squeeze to AI investment. Nakato also said the shortage is spreading from enterprise SSD demand into the consumer market.

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>>107943790
A helium filled HDD with large capacity, 18-24TB. Small capacity HDD make no sense. I like Toshiba, others prefer WD, nobody trusts Seagate.

>>107943595
only 160%? what an lucker

>GPU in cart
>price goes up $70 as I debate buying it
Violence.

For a 5070 should I go with the founders edition, PNY, or Gigabyte? They're all the same price

>>107944098
>nobody trusts Seagate
I've had no problem with Exos and Ironwolf Pros, just don't buy their consumer stuff.

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>5060ti 8Gb for 600 euro
>people are buying as it disappears from shop

>>107944212
>day1
+50 from smrp
>day 2
+100 over msrp
>day3 now
+220 over msrp

>>107944213
gigabyte used a meme thermal gel that leaks, in theory they fixed it now but you might never know what you get

>>107942929
I bought this card during the pandemic when I was desperate to to play some multiplayer games with friends and I was on an old RX 460 in a prebuilt. Honestly, it worked better than I thought it would at the time. For today? Do not try this with any AAA made after 2020 and even some high end indies.

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>>107944215
>>107944098
I had one of their drives show up DOA, sadly I didn't bother checking it for 2-3 months so I couldn't return to amazon, so having to do an RMA, so but so far it's fairly painless, just had to pay for shipping which kinda blows, but better than buying a whole new drive.

>>107944034
it was leaked by AMD like 7 month ago
seven
months
ago

>>107944249
The last good Seagates I had was Seagate Cheetah 9LP 9.1GB Ultra2 Wide SCSI drives in the 90s. Made the noise of a buzz saw though.
Later Seagate qt deteriorated and I eventually stopped buying them. When I made an exception in 2016 I immediately regret it.

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>>107944234
gigabyte was only one I could buy
I knew there was reason for it
fuck
might as well return it and be without gpu for next 5 years

for a win 7 build
64gb ddr4
1080ti
i7-6700K
ASUS STRIX Z270H ATX LGA1151
1 TB SSD
4TB HDD
DVD RW

thoughts?

>>107944213
>>107944234
They fixed it within launch month and it was only ever an issue if you vertically mounted your GPU which you shouldn't do if you care for thermals

>one obsessed AMDdrone has managed to destroy an entire general
congrats I guess? but I’ll be sure to buy anything but ayymd from now on, just to spite xer

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>>107942925
You might need to save up a little more. You can gen on AMD cards but there's no way around how much slower it is. Your only real option for cheap + good VRAM is the 5060ti 16gb. They're marked up after the panic buying but they're still easier to find than 5070ti cards.

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I feel like a cuck for paying +55% msrp for a 5060ti....
being third world SUCKS

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>>107944329
checked SN of mine and its made in November well past the recalibration of putty machine but still mad af for having memegel card fo the hardware long winter
>>107944366
dude we in eu pay +35% default over msrp even without all this ramgpussd shit no reason to feel bad only americans have it good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yhstxg

Going to reuse an SSD from my current build. Anything look out of place? Only thing I'm concerned about is the motherboard. Maybe a better case too?

>>107944329
>might as well return it
don't, the chances you got an old card are low

My 9600x went to sleep and never wake up because I had an ASSrock mb. Sent them both to the shop and got new parts. The dilemma is: buy a new mb from another manufacturer or risk it and go with the new ASSrock and pray? Bonus question: what is the best manufacturer ( the one with lower chance of killing my cpu, that is)

>>107944098
What are your thoughts about WB black? I bought a 10TB last month. Should I have gotten a helium version??

>>107944393
Just get a Niggabyte board. Those seem to be among the least issue-prone for AM5.

question why are thermal pastes used instead of silver squares the size of the cpu that are a few mm thick? The bolts would give it complete surface contact anyway and it's optimal heat transmission? It does not melt until 961.8 degrees?

>>107944412
I am leaning towards Niggabyte too, too bad my aSUS AM4 is still fine but I heard they also got issues.

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>>107944390
its still ticking gel slipping failure

>>107944422
followup even if you doint want to use a sperate piece of silver why not siver plate the bottom of the heat sink with a few mm of pure silver??

>>107944329
You can stop posting pepes and imaginary purchases with hypothetical returns now. Leaking gel is excess spilling, not the gel beginning to fail to do its job.

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>>107944422
>silver squares the size of the cpu that are
in the sticky as >Kryosheet

>>107944451
Indeed. In fact you can do this at home with some simple homebrew electroplating. Have fun, kids!

>>107944422
There will still be microscopic air gaps in between, and silver won't fill that gap unless you melt it first, besides the fact that spilling silver would mean some catastrophic shorts.

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How long until Novidea halts production of all RTX cards full stop? What's the point of keeping the production lines running to output 30 cards a month? Or will they use "defective" (lower binned) chips only?

>>107942682
Thoughts on moddiy? My first time getting custom cables, this shit is expensive even on sale jesus christ.

>>107944645
quality

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I see pics like this and want to go OLED so much

>>107944655
IPS looks so fucking ugly once you go OLED. It's like stepping back to last gen you notice how washed out everything is.

wtf, microcenter has a 5080 at $1200. this unironically seems like a good idea unless I'm missing something. might cancel my 5070ti order as it was only $200 less than this

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>>107944730
Depends on your local microcenter's stock.

>>107944730
$1000 for a 5070TI is retard shit
cancel that and get the 5080
Seriously the 5070TI is $800 card at the max

>>107944730
Yes a 5080 is worth $200 exta.

>>107944730
>>107944747
>>107944738
its still retarded. only 10% faster than 9070xt which goes for $650.

>>107944736
Why is everyone saying the 5070ti and the 5080 or 90’s are selling out? Going by amazon and my local Microcenter, they’re always in stock, but if they happened to sell out, they’re always restocked, like almost a week later, are the people saying not in North America?

>>107944755
Yeah you could buy AMD + OLED for that money.

>>107944755
>>107944762
Nah, rather get a 5080, it’s worth it for DLSS, cry more

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>>107944761
It's getting pretty bad outside NA with remaining models all inflated

>>107944755
Yeah but AMD has no drivers

>>107944761
To be fair, last week and the week before they had 25+ $799 Zotacs that are all gone now, and they had a dozen+ $1100-1200 5080s that are all gone now.
>>107944755
11% at 1080p, 17% at 1440p, 20% at 4k.
And that's before we delve into DLSS and other Nvidia features.

Have to think the price of the 5070 is going to go up now that the 5070 TI and 5060 TI are having their production lowered right?

I hate being a poor NEET and being concerned over $150

>>107944767
>worth it for DLSS
Gol dang DLSS 4.5 has everyone creaming themselves over it. Maybe I should fire up some sort of /gayme/ to see what it's all about, it does fuck-all for CAD so I've never seen any sort of DLSS or whatnot in action.

>>107944782
don't be concerned
just spend it
you'll live

>>107944767
shitposting aside, I would unironically grab a 9070xtx that has more vram and if it’s priced appropriately

I have decided to get a 5070ti over a 9070xt. It' only $200 more, but that seems worth it.

i picked up a 5070ti for msrp a week ago. I thought I was just falling for fomo.

>>107944679
The solution to that problem is to not go oled

>>107944851
was a bit weird that nobody but the shill bothered to bake even when we reached the bump limit

>>107944767
>>107944773
>>107944774
Not worth it when you can get a GPU + 0.03ms display instead of just a GPU.

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32" 4K for immersion vs 27" 4K for pixel density
discuss

>>107944782
>I hate being a poor NEET and being concerned over $150

I'm a poor neet and bought a 5090. Just don't eat for a few months. Or rather have a 4090 to sell and buy 5090 at price of 5070

>>107944834
You got scammed, bro.

>>107944915
There's another, proper thread up. Report this one for brand warring and migrate
>>107942773
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>>107944761
I live in LA and everything is gone within moments of restock. The panic buying is real.

>>107942849
What is the “other crap”? Microcenter had a prebuilt with 5090, 9950x3d and 64gb of ram for 5k

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>>107944915
I just can't be assed half the time to bake. You take care if it next time, k?

>also there are three generals running at the moment.

>>107944374
>Standard +35% above MSRP.
Such is the price of being the superior breed. I walk around town and everybody is like a statue chiseled by a classic era Greek. They need their cheap GPU because it's their only chance to access beauty, even if only for a mere game session.

How soon do you guys think these price hikes will be reflected in the used local market? I'm trying to find a mid range graphics card to complete a budget build

>>107946030
Last week.

If a 3070 Ti can use around 300W, why do people recommend 650W+ for one?
Wouldn't 500W be enough for one with a 7600X CPU and an NVMe drive? Not going to be plugging in 15 hard drives or 40 case fans or something. Just a simple 3 case fans 1 air cooler and 1 NVMe drive.

Never ask this retarded general advice. I could've gotten a 240hz 4k OLED for only 535€ but these faggots told me not to get alienware and now the price jumped to 600€, kill yourselves

>>107946878
I would still not buy 27" 4K monitor even if it's cheap.

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>>107942815
the sales are timeouting too for the next 6 months

>>107946878
The Alienware QD-OLED screens are complete shit. Dim as fuck with worse color fringing shit firmware. Asus or MSI.

How much did the 9800x3d go for at launch?

>>107947310
$480-550 maybe
i remember that stock was fairly good and it was easy to get one on launch day if you wanted it

if I DID want to pull the trigger on a 5090, what is the best course of action to do so? do they hit a certain price at a certain vendor at a certain time or? looking to get the least jew'd as possible

>>107947348
the earlier you buy the less you have to pay unironically

I can never understand you fellas spending over $1000 on a single GPU

>>107947302
Mines doesn't have any of that. What's more important is to check when your panel was made it could be made this year or been sitting in warehouse degrading organic layer since 2023-2024.

>>107947348
The 5090 has quite literally never dropped in price

Buy at launch or buy on 0% credit (yes, even if you can pay for it all at once) are the only reasonable options.

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>>107942682
where are the cute gpus at :c

>>107947348
search up one of those discord servers that pings you with a notification when cards restock. got my founders edition for the msrp $2,000 doing that
the ones that linger in stock are basically pre-scalped prices and not the actual restocks you want

>>107946916
This shit makes me think they wont even bother making a next gen consumer card anytime soon and that it is completely over.

>>107947348
You shoulda boughted 3-6 months ago. They are racing to $5000 this year so either buy mega expensive now or buy giga/tera expensive soon

>>107947504
Every day that passes buying a RTX PRO 6000 becomes a more sensible decision, probably Nvidias intention to begin with.