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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

Is there any reason to get an intel over an amd cpu?

>>107949969
Cost or you have a specific usecase (need a low idle power server)

>>107949969
If you're not a gamer, intel is still competitive and in some use cases, is superior to AMD consumer CPUs

>>107949969
Intel is pretty competitive for non-gaming applications, I guess.
I guess there's a budget argument with DDR4.

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Looking to buy a new 4tb SSD. This is the cheapest one I can find. Is the WD BLACKED SN850X worth 500 or should I go for something else? Im on a budget but willing to spend extra money on a better 4tb SSD if its available. Mainly play video games, light video editing, and organize my extensive hentai collection

>>107949969
Intel quicksync works better than AMDs igpu bullshit.

>>107950037
Their own webstore has it at like $1100.

Just FYI these are getting bought up by AI datacenters as "hot" storage to feed training data into RAM/HMB.

8TB are basically all gone, 4TB are in and out of stock with the prices climbing.

>>107950037
i'm sure people are sick of hearing it but good god i hadn't realized storage prices too had gone up quite so much. i paid a hundo less for a 4tb sn8100 only a few months back

This is such a shit time to build a pc. When CES26 ended I immediately panic placed an order for a 5080 at 1127 euros, and seeing as how they are all 1500ish now I kinda don't regret it.

My 5700X3D kind of bottlenecks it a bit though.

>>107949920
Why the hell are you recommending water coolers? Pumps will die in less than 7 years and after the 3 year mark it will start to gunk and reduce the performance of the AIO cooler because the anti corrosive inhibitors are degraded.

>>107949920
>It's now safe to turn off your computer.
Kek, I remeber setting that up as my wallpaper on a Openbox machine with no taskbars or icons. The cursor gave it away, plus the fact that computers weren't showing it for several years, but not that far back enough that people didn't recognize the prompt anymore. Many keks were had.

>>107950229
7 years is like the warranty. They last as long as a fish tank does which is between 10-20 years. In that timespan your components/fish are dead we're on AM7 or some new Intel socket that makes yours obsolete.

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I undervolted my 4070Ti finally, I ended up losing zero performance from stock (since I also gave my memory a +1000Mhz boost).

Stable in steel nomad, gonna play some games over a week or two to confirm, but should be good.

Temps dropped 5-8 degrees and peak power dropped like 55W.

>>107950229
I feel sorry for Americans and their capitalist dystopia of not having warranties unless they pay extra for "insurance".
Over here, if shit stops working after 3 years, you complain, and they're legally obligated to send you a new one.

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I redeemed. Ill be sure to post how shit it is once i get it set up, i just hope that Intel does not trick me and adds the ir sov support soon otherwise I will have big regrets.

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OP here.

>create no self-deletion edition /pcbg/ because someone was trolling /pcbg/
>drunkenly shitpost and get banned
>/pcbg/ wins?

>>107950229
It's a copypasta sticky and a lot of people use AIOs. We serve anyone here, including people like (me).

>>107950242
I like you more than the rest, and I love all of /pcbg/.

>>107950169
Same, I panic bought a 4TB T500 in early december for just 280 yurocoins just so I'd have a spare around. That's slightly more than I payed for my 4TB 990 Pro a while ago so they had already gone back up. Roughly the same drive going for almost double that just a month later is pretty horrifying.

Never used a liquid cooler before, but the MasterLiquid 360L cooler is only $60 right now. Is that a good cooler or should I go for something else? Any solid air coolers that wont break the bank?

DON'T LISTEN TO HIM, IT IS NEVER SAFE TO TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER, EVER.

>>107950356
Agreed. All systems get more stressed and prone to break when you cycle them on and off too often. Thermal expansion and moving parts are a bitch.

T. HVAC

>>107950259
thanks for the concern but that's not how it works here at all. like, at all.

>>107950385
Why are they always trying to sell me warranties when I buy shit from the US?

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>>107950037
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BM584Q2C

>>107950259
You also pay twice as much for your shit in the first place. I'd rather have the option to choose if I want to pay for a warranty or not, instead of just having it forced on me.

>>107950414
Not since the tariffs. :)

>>107950421
Yeah actually, still since the tariffs. Our shit is still cheaper than it is for you, by a mile, even with the tariffs. Cope more.

>>107950431
Tariffs makes US goods more expensive. Not items in other regions.

>>107950344
No, it's shit. Almost all of the AIO that I've seen get leaks are Cooler Master, Corsair or Deepcool. If you want cheap go for the Thermalright Frozen Edge.

>prebuilts are cheaper now than building your own

It's over. It's never been more over.

>>107950408
Is this as good as WD or chinkshit

>>107950406
>sell me warranties
This is not only for electronics. There are third party companies that work like insurance exchanges selling extended warranties for anything - can be a car, your house, new or even used PCs and PC parts, you name it. They reap huge profits from this. Some of them are legit and some are shifty scams. It's pure capitalism. Caveat Emptor!

>>107950447
It's cheaper for NOW since their supply chain takes longer to feel the impact.

The prebuilts being sold in stores today were built 2-3 months ago.

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This is my SSD after 2-3 years of using my current Windows 10 install, I'd say it is getting raped far less (about 10 times less) than my MX500 from 2019-2023.

>>107950437
You're retarded and illiterate. What a surprise.

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>>107950406
there are extended warranties if you're a sucker i guess. those first 3 AIOs in the op i looked up have 5-6 year warranties like a lot of products from decent brands. usually it's more like 2-3 in my experience.
anyway the way it works in the common case is say you order a product from amazon and discover it is defective within 30 days. you ship it back and they just send you a replacement or refund no questions asked
*after* 30 days amazon will tell you to kick rocks and then you have to deal with the manufacturer yourself. so you grumble and probably have to pay return shipping and it's a hassle but you have years of warranty on pretty much everything. they always advertise the warranty period right on the product page as a selling point

actually that reminds me of an old simpsons joke where homer is getting a crayon shoved into his brain to make him dumb again for various plot reasons and when he says "extended warranty, how can I lose?" is when he's achieved appropriate levels of retard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CbbEH_4NTM

>didn't buy a new GPU because I didn't have the time by the time I found out and got cold feet
>decide right around the same time that after 4 years that I should just say fuck it and overclock my core/memory to the max since I already deshrouded my card
how do you explain this behavior? I'm not retarded

>>107950449
nah that's a great drive, not as good as samsung or WD, but a solid drive.
It has an actual DRAM cache.

How long should I heat soak my CPU to break in the paste?

>>107950474
Newer pastes don't have a break in period they're good to go. But if its PCM or older then a couple of heat cycles should do over a few days.

>>107950449
ADATA has some shit drives but that one's fine. Not WD quality but it's ok.

Make sure te heatsink doesn't fuck with your setup.

>>107950498
>Make sure the heatsink doesn't fuck with your setup.
100% this, they use a thermal bonding agent that is NOT removable.

Even with high heat, you'll either cook the chips, or rip them off the PCB 9 times out of 10.

So yeah, if you're buying that, make sure you can fit the heatsink in whatever motherboard you're using.

>>107950449
It's taipeishit, which will very shortly be chinkshit

>>107950514
Lol delusional chink.

Any invasion of taiwan would result in the fabs being destroyed before chinese boots even touched the beach.

>>107950467
the warranty is already expired so that sounds like the right play. just go crazy overclocking and cooling it but realistically you will only get like 10% more fps.

>>107950523
The only way China would ever get Taiwan would be if the US elected a president who put a bunch of restrictions and pressures on Taiwan to the extent that a peaceful surrender to China would be the better option.

>>107950510
It's not THAT bad, but yeah its a pain in the ass compared to most M.2 drives.

The motherboard tray is not removable

I just bought a lot of parts, they should all arrive tomorrow
Shit like this makes me nervous

Should I install the OS on the M2. and games on the sata ssds or the other way around?

what nvme should i buy?
>my sabrent 4tb shat itself after 6 months so not doing that again
>my samsung drives have always been great
>apparently the 990 pro is shit
for home pc use, but i write and move a LOT of large videos regularly so it needs to be resilient. it doesnt need muh 9000mb/s read as long as its not dead slow. im still on pcie 4.0.

What is the best 32" monitor? No I don't want 27"
I have that, it's too small for my use case.

>>107950597
You missed the ship already

The 4TB SN850X for $500 posted earlier is probably your best bet.

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>>107950523
>Any invasion of taiwan would result in the fabs being destroyed
This won't happen. The Taiwanese government is already compromised.

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How reliable are these fluid PC coolers? I don't have this exact model, but it's very similar. I've had mine for like 2.5-3 years and I'm very worried that it will one day break.

My PC was expensive before AI kicked off, I can't imagine the cost of buying what I have today

What should I look out for with my water cooler? How long should I wait before I replace it with a new fan? Is there any reason to worry at all?

>>107949969
for a peaceful life

>>107950037
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBBG7CG7
$450, outperforms the SN850X in the majority of benchmarks, considered the top 3 of Gen 4 drives
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XP15XL
$470, Gen 5 drive, DRAM, all the usual goodies. Higher on-paper specs than the SN850X, but may have thermal issues because >Gen 5
Both >Crucial, but good drives regardless and cheaper than Western Digital without being worse.

How much hotter does the 9800x3d run compared to a 9600x?

>>107950685
Very

>>107950685
You can air cool it just fine, and set a lower thermal limit in the BIOS if you're concerned about die temps.
80°C limit will reduce its shader pre-compilation performance a bit, but it shouldn't run that hot in other gaming loads.

ram deals?
Ddr4?

how important is DP2.1?

>>107950596
the former

>>107950739
its more bandwidth so technically you can do absurd res+hz combos without dsc. but you dont need it unless you actually need it.

There is this prebuilt for sale for 4200€.
>AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
>Asus RTX 5090 TUF OC
>Corsair MP600 ELITE 2TB SSD
>32GB Kingston Fury RGB DDR5

Am I retarded for thinking this is a great deal?

>>107950786
thats pretty much exactly the same price you would pay buying a pimped out prebuilt from dell or microcenter.

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>Samsung S95H in europe won't have the metal bezel frame but the traditional S95F design
>Samsung S99H/S95H will drop the one connect box meme that causes drop outs/artifacts/blue rectangles stuff problems with pc use and even other stuff
Guess this is it, this is peak display, I will simply buy a 55" S95H and cope with the matte panel and that will be it
a S95F 55" (on sale) currently costs less than a PG32UCDMR (on non sale)
WOLED is done and finished, one must cope with QDOLED
unless I have a switch of mind again
to be continued, the 55" qdoled ppi fringing nightmare has only just begun

I want a 40 inch ultrawide with G-Sync Pulsar and I want to buy it for $300 and I'm NOT joking

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>>107948943
>>107949085
>>107949708
So from what I have been researching, it seems I can try the 27" 1440p monitor with something like MPC-HC + MadVR for upscaling to make it look just as good or even better than it would be if I were to use the 24" 1080p monitor natively, but if I want the absolute best results I'd tinker with MadVR using the 1080p monitor instead, is that right?
Unless I'm retarded and guessing it wrong, I guess it would be smarter to make a compromise and pick the 1440p option?
OLED is out of option for a good while though

>>107950812
Between my WOLED TV, QD OLED monitor, and AMOLED phone I think QD has the best colors followed by the phone. WOLED looks washed out by comparison not to mention the grey banding.

>>107950627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pIpKetQlZs
About 3 years, if you keep it longer the liquid will start to corrode the metals and over time it will gunk the fins. There are cases where there is way too much gunk causing leaks.

>>107950818
A shame companies stopped the 38"/40" models once the LG C-series dropped to 42" they just said fuck it and abandoned that segment

>>107950825
BUT THE TEXT
HOW IS THE TEXT
I'M 2 INCHES AWAY FROM BUYING THE 321URX FOR 700
I GOTTA KNOW

>>107950844
Text was god awful out of the box on the QD but after various calibrations its completely fine now. If you use Linux this is a non issue btw since you dont have to use RGB for text.

>>107950863
Which monitor do you have?

>buy ram on Amazon
>Fails speed test return and re buy
>Delayed: Your refund is delayed as the return is still under processing
How do I convince these """people""" to give me my money back

>>107950600
pg32ucdmr or wait for pg32ucdm3, better colors uniformity and so on on qd
xg32ucwmg or wait for tandem variant, better coating and not raised blacks in lit rooms and maybe better subpixel structure

>>107950739
only usable if you have 5000 series gpu, you have to run very short cables
might fix some dsc related things even though some of them have already been kind of maybe already fixed in lets say 5000 series WITH dsc because they moved to using a single display head over dsc compared to 2 before or whatever the fuck it was prior to 5000 series

tldr if you don't know why you need it you don't need it

>>107950830
yeah I'm on a 34 inch ultrawide and was kinda surprised at how few 38-40 inch options there are right now. I've had trouble finding any decent options

>>107950873
Acer Predator X27U

>>107950900
https://www.acer.com/us-en/predator/monitors/x27u-qd-oled

is upgrading from a 3700x to a 5950x still worth it for $380

>>107950625
>opposition leader
>government is comprised
Anon I….

>>107950825
>I think QD has the best colors
that's because.... it does? I mean it's not even a question
ever since I used low srgb gamut shit display I swore to always colormaxx after this point

>>107950844
text is fine, but I'm not sure if it's the coating or a combination of the subpixels that can cause eye strain
I tested both 140ppi 4k qdoled glossy and matte and Samsung matte is way less eyestrain, don't even think I had any in comparison, could still see the fringing too though

msi has a forced 24 hour pixel refresh too, if it works as intended it may not cause issues now but I still don't like it, plus undefeatable pixel shift, which is semi annoying, there is 0 reason to buy msi over asus in my region considering they are the same or even less

>>107950907
Bad text on a 4K 27" is making me nervous, I though high pixel density solved that

>>107950922
depends on what you are planning on doing with it and what other options you have. personally i wouldn't put any more money into an AM4 platform in current year

>acer
I thought that they were a…. Less than stellar brand with questionable build quality?

>>107950997
yes that's true but their higher end stuff is generally more reliable. Their bottom tier stuff is absolute dogshit.

>>107950981
its 1440p 27 inch. acer is really bad at specs and website.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/701978/acer-predator-x27u-w1bmiipprx-267-2k-qhd-(2560-x-1440)-240hz-gaming-monitor

>>107950997
If its QD OLED its all the same panels from Samsung. MSI,Gigabyte,ASUS,Acer,etc all source from them.

>>107950952
The reds & greens pop more I notice in Cyberpunk even in SDR mode. WOLED still gets a tad brighter for HDR.

>>107950825
>>107950844
4th gen Tandem WOLED's are out. Check out Gigabyte MO27Q28G. I'm considering buying it.

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i don't know what all the different types of LED names mean, i just want it to look good

>>107951095
This guy tried 4th gen tandem and 3rd gen QD and kept the QD
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1opc3gc/gigabyte_mo27q28g_vs_alienware_aw2725d_experience/
Apparently they didn't like the matte coating and they had grey banding issues

>>107949969
more pcie lanes

>>107951125
endgame monitor

https://www.shwallyhome.com/products/spectrumview-pro-27-incandescent-lit-monitor?variant=51699364135225

>>107951164
>no freesync or gsync
yup the endgame

>>107951184
just cap your frames and you will be fine.
(captcha is annoying btw)

>>107951203
true
true
(im not renewing my pass)

>>107950596
My plans keep getting shifted. Coming from 2 SATA SSDs I was originally going to do 2TB NVMe for my OS and 4TB NVMe games/data but my 4TB NVMe ended up being used in another machine. I have two newer SATA SSDs that I'm going to clone the old ones to and then I'll just use the 2TB NVMe for games that want DirectStorage. Whatever that is. I should have panic bought another 4TB back in November.

>>107951113
WOLED - there's a white pixel instead of just rgb
QDOLED - they put a quantum dot layer ontop and uses its own pixel layout which means no white pixel
both have their pros & cons. if you live next to a electronics store just go in person and see the difference yourself.

>>107950821
no sane people use 1080p in 2026
just get the fucking 1440p
and get a job so you can replace that shit with oled asap

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ANOTHER ONE

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where is the gamer nexus video

>>107951113
>>107951249
If you're in a bright room get WOLED. If you're in a dark room get QDOLED.

>>107951272
>>107951284
my theory is amd is selling defective chips but not taking responsibility. its not the first time either. early ryzen chips had a hw segfault issue but instead of cooking the chips it just crashed them under linux.

>>107951284
>>107951272
is this also affecting 7800x3d? just recently built one with an asus board and kinda worried

>>107950876
I hope you don't end up with my situation where some asshole in the return processing center stole my returned RAM and tried to tag it as me having returned something else from my order, THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE ON MY ORDER! I had to get some idiot on the phone to credit me, took like 15 minutes as he had to get a supervisor to get another supervisor to override it. I did get the money back eventually.

>>107951203
>captcha is annoying btw
Mine is like one find-the-different-thing, is it just me?

>>107951418
Thankfully it was a stand alone order for me too, maybe I'll try calling tomorrow to get ahead of it.

>>107951423
captcha ramps up in difficulty if you have fresh cookies or have been banned recently

>>107951482
>or have been banned recently

Does not compute for >>107950287 me, anon. Very strange.

>>107951507
actually I may be mistaken on that part, not sure anymore

>RX 9070XT
>9950X
>32gb Corsair vengeance 6000
Is it worth upgrading to a 9850x3d? Want to play Crimson Desert and demanding UE5 slop. Apparently with that upgrade this build runs CD at 40-50fps (lol), how much lower would you expect the FPS If I didn't upgrade?
https://youtu.be/EkNQUwNkfe4?si=W85-MNQ2uHF2-3Ck

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>>107950229
>seething aircuck
kek

>>107950229
CPUs die in 5 years now, it's fine

>>107950257
>best loop 13
>worst loop 4
so your score went UP as it got hotter?

Wat...

>>107951540
Tidy pic. Whats in your BOM?

>will never be this clean again.

>>107951514
Nah, your biggest bottleneck is the 9070XT right now.

>>107951564
He could still get noticeably less frame drops with an X3D CPU despite technically being GPU limited.

>>107951593
>>107951564
The only two GPUs above 9070XT are 5080 and 5090 right?

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>>107951546
>it's fine
All the trash from old /crap/ is real and it sucks. I've gotten rid of shedloads of old /pcbg/.

>wtf are the chimps doing with all this /crap/ anyway?

What GPU should I buy if I want to use the MPV high-quality preset with ArtCNN_C4F32? I had an old PC lying around and decided to upgrade the 5820k to an E5-1650V4, but I don't think the GTX 970 is going to cut it anymore. What GPU should I purchase for this 4k60 HTPC?

>>107951605
yeah basically

>>107951605
Basically. You could include the Blackwell 6000 if you want to be pedantic. But it's like a $10K GPU, so I mean, not really.

>>107951593
He could, but a 9800X3D is like $500, which is also the price difference between a 9070 XT and a 5080.

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>>107951272
from two days ago
>Setup was running fine for almost one year
>It died while idling on desktop.

If I had this cpu I'd turn of the overclocks until they find out what is going on

what if it's heatsink pressure killing cpus

>had a 3070, games started crashing with the nvlddmkm error
>replace with a 4060, fine for a while
>crashing comes back, replace it with a 5080
>fine for a while, crashing comes back

what the fuck man, every part in this PC other than the SSDs are new in the last 18 months. at this point it has to be software related surely?

What should I look for when picking ram sticks? I know it's really all just the two gooks and micron but what makes one batch different from the next? A decent amount of DDR5 costs more than a CPU and I don't want to fuck up.

>>107951605
there is also the AI PRO R9700 which has the identical chip as the 9070 but it has more vram.
And technically Nvidia also has it's $9000 96gb RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell which is a 5090.

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>>107951684
By now you should have the skills to properly diagnose the fuckken thing. Just sell it and buy a Dell.

I bought a 5060ti two weeks ago, and those idiots at amazon still haven't shipped it to my stupid nigger country. My question is, are the 16gb of RAM I have “enough,” or should I buy 16 more? Also, should I buy two 16gb sticks, or just two 8gb sticks with the same frequency to add to the ones I already have and fill the four slots?
AM4 btw

>>107951249
>>107951113
>>107951290
Just get an LG G5 and call it done.

>>107951771
If you can find at a price you're willing to pay do it if you can't you've missed the boat

>>107947496
i was under the impression the phantom spirit was the newer version of the phantom assassin?
>>107947533
not sure what sacking is, but yeah i should probably look at comparative performance with aio v. air cooling. i was under the impression the difference only matters if you have bad airflow and are REALLY trying to get low low temps.
>>107947583
deepcool assassin iv is out of stock anyways

>>107951684
>nvlddmkm
had this issue when i had unstable memory after adding more ram and not being able to stably run at my full expo speed with four sticks. apparently ram issues are a common culprit for it
nvidia must get real tired of getting crash reports from not-gpu hardware desu. try disabling your expo or test one stick at a time or running memtest, the usual

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>>107951560
picrel
I've overclocked the memory some but BF6 is gay and coded poorly :(

>>107951839
and yes i did launch into my story before reading where you said everything else was new
but i stand by it

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oh it's >>107951831 this anon
good morning saar, how is the new telly working out?

>>107951026
>The reds & greens pop more I notice in Cyberpunk even in SDR mode. WOLED still gets a tad brighter for HDR.
comparing a qdoled next to a subtier ips it's not even the same colors in greens even with max boosted saturation
I need a new display again
by allah hope Samsung don't fuck up the Europe release and actually pull through with non cucked TVs

>>107951125
that alienware also has a history of offing itself, did they fix that

>>107951249
>WOLED - there's a white pixel instead of just rgb
I think the W refers to the backlight being white not the white subpixel though
as in WOLED without the W subpixel is still WOLED due to the white backlight

>>107951831
still half the color of qd
waiting on uncucked S95H next year in europe
and no dithering
I have concluded my copes

>>107951847
Post pics when done, anon. Are you doing glowie stuff with it?

>the cheetle will accumulate in it over the years

>>107951858
Big and expensive. Are you claiming that the saars are more wealthy than you? Must be a sad life. Just buy an OLED and quit seething.

>>107951771
16gb DRAM is enough for gaming but if you want to multi-task some bullshits like chain opening tabs on you favorite browser or erping your tranny friends on Discord then you'll want 32.

Mixing RAM is arcanic roulette. You'll be better off selling your 2x8 and buying a 2x16 pair.

I had HAGS off this whole time...

>>107951977
not hagpilled

https://youtu.be/QqEw7wYhEqU?t=589
lmao @ timestamp
AMD IS CHEAP
AMD SILICON IS GARBAGE BECAUSE AMD IS CHEAP
BAHAHAHAHAHA

>>107951839
yeah i just ran windows' memory test and nothing came up, guess ill run memtest86 overnight. if i have to get new ram i might just bite the bullet and do an am5 upgrade before the shortage gets even worse

>>107951659
>If I had this cpu I'd turn of the overclocks
It's better to expose defective CPUs asap.
I'd undervolt and retain stock frequency boost, no messing with scalar.

>>107950216
nah not really its within a few frames of 14th/15th gen and Zen5 non X3D.
7800X3D and 9800X3D are well above but they're FOMO generators.

Does it bother you guys to have multiple different brands of fan in one case?

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>ps6 may be delayed to 2029
>rtx 60 series not expected until late 2027 the earlierst
Surely this mean devs will finally have to target current hardware

>>107952277
yes

>>107952277
No
I don't care what fans are on the aircooler

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This a good monitor? This a good price? DP 2.1 worth it?

>>107952309
yes yes no

>4k
this is a meme. Everything after 1080 is a marginal change to your experience. There's no where to go with flat displays, VR is the display tech that is woefully underdeveloped

>>107952311
god this DP 2.1 stuff is so confusing
If the GPUs are all 2.1 now why do they keep selling DP 1.4 with DSC

How much safer is pcie 5.1 on a psu compared to pcie 5.0 is it worth it to upgrade to a power supply with it?

>>107952353
because you can't tell if dsc is on or off anyway
it only becomes useful if you are using actually large resolutions that take advantage of dp 2.1's bandwidth

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>>107952280
30fps on a 5090 is the target

>>107950821
nigger are you talking about using fucking kawaii codec pack madvr in fucking 2026 i used that shit literally fifteen years ago mr caveman

get mpv.net and set it to gpu-next with libplacebo set to highquality

jesus christ i actually cant believe some of you are real and not ais made to fuck with me

>>107952426
I'm not much of a modern gamer, so what the fuck is path tracing? Is that some new form of raytracing that makes games run even worse than before?

>>107952426
What's that 9070xt doing down there?

>>107952466
its level best, don't bully.

>>107952462
yeah pretty much
new ways to reduce your fps even more for people to say things like "30fps is target"

>>107952483
I'll never understand the hype for raytracing. The fact that some games force it is just annoying as fuck like that new Indiana Jones game.

>>107952462
Raytracing
>Light ray emitts
>Hits object.
>Illuminates the object.

Pathtracing
>Light ray emitts
>Hits object
>Illuminates and bounces off object and scatters
>These scatters and bounces also illumate objects.

In games, it doesn't make much difference because the materials and geometry isn't really complex enough to showcase the differences in this behaviour of lighting, so it largely just exists as a thing people with 5080/5090s can turn on and enjoy having a lower FPS and sometimes slightly nicer lighting.

>107952540
>Light ray emitts
>Hits object
>Illuminates and bounces off object and scatters
>These scatters and bounces also illumate objects.
Holy fuck, what's the point of computing this? Objects simply being coloured with the intended "lighting" is so much more efficient. This is just lazy. I hope nobody is buying a GPU just to squander it on games where the devs didn't do their jobs.

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IS THE 7800X3D ON AN ASUS BOARD SAFE

>>107952580
7800x3d is stable and safe

How do you measure the current drawn by your PC? I need to know if I can use the microwave and AC unit while my PC is running.

>>107952589
kill-a-watt

>>107952589
I have a UPS that tells me how much power is being used at any given time.

>>107952566
We've been doing it since like the 90s, anon. It's just we're not adapting it for games.

Ultimately, the endgame is to merge realtime rendering and traditional CGI rendering into the same process, separated by how long things take.

>>107949920
>just turn it off.jpg
This is still supported by Windows 11.

reg.exe add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT" /v DontPowerOffAfterShutdown /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

Revert:

reg.exe delete "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT" /v DontPowerOffAfterShutdown /f

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god I may just go IPS
OLED is so much work for so much money
just read you have to learn it properly otherwise it'll scratch to shit too
OLED TV, sure but as for monitor, I kinda just want shit to work man, I'm so tired, I hate the monitor market

>>107952566
Load cyber punk. There is no way to map 300 light sources and bounce in a lifetime. If they managed the game would be 50TB. But if you want traditional lighting you can have that as well, just turn the eye candy off. It looks like shit in comparison, but that's what you want.

My 7900SEXTX is only using 8 PCI lanes , is this a real problem worth fixing?
I think the cause is I have all the m.2s filled .

>>107951552
Couldn't tell you why, but I am using an air cooler with high airflow, so it's not an AIO that gets heatsoaked overtime.

>>107952607
Just don't be a retard and oled will work very well unless you're part of the 1% of people that legitimately gets massive eye strain from the pwm pulsing of oleds

>>107952607
Just get a miniLED LCD and use the stupid thing without thinking about how exactly you need to tickle it up the asshole so it doesn't die.

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>>107952607
just get this bro

>>107952640
Only 32" miniled I can find is BenQ one which is crazy expensive, more than OLED even

>>107952589
you can guess using hwinfo sensor stats.
but I don't know if all hardware has the wattage sensors.

>>107952580
ASUS puts intel voltages on AMD boards and wonders why they burn chips, Asrock has the same parent company and bios writers which is why they're both affected.

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Is the Crucial T705 worth buying over the SN850X?

>>107952566
I like to think this is the kind of conversations the folks who built the supercomputer around a black hole to simulate our universe had about how our world should work.

>>107952704
Oh you want 32", yeah I don't know about those. They're plentiful at 27" though.

>>107952740
If for some reason you absolutely need gen 5 yes.

I simply cannot justify spending $1500 (with $400 on 32gb of ram) to play World of Warcraft in 1440p

just say you're poor

>>107952783
I'm poor

>>107952784
mcdonalds is always hiring

>>107952793
i was fired for putting my feet in the lettuce

>>107951771
For DDR4 mixing ram isn't a big deal, but you should still at least match the frequency and timings. I recommend getting 2x16 in case you ever want to get 64gb.

I bet you could just run out of Best Buy with 64gb of ram and they wouldn't even chase after you

>>107952825
the RAM isn't activated until they ring it up at the counter

>>107952038
>Open video
>ESL spewing FUDlore to glaze Nvidia for the nth time.
Checks out.

>>107952783
COMES NOW, Anon, before this honourable thread, in forma pauperis

>spent $220 on 2x32GB
>it's not even DDR5
Luckily I could probably just sell my current RAM and recoup most of the losses but this shit is still ridiculous. Wasn't 64GB of high speed DDR4 around half that price not too long ago?

>>107952740
T705 is shite afaik
T710 is way better and a real improvement over the sn850x

>>107952038
The guy's had PTSD from all the internally shorted navi21 he's seen over the years

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bring back 5.25" bays. where did all the soul go...

>>107952900
mining wasn't gentle on navi21

>>107953009
>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/chinese-gpu-manufacturer-zephyr-confirms-dead-rdna-2-gpu-dies-from-cracking-bulging-and-shorting-company-says-it-has-replaced-several-dead-navi-21-cores-under-warranty
It's an AMD design issue that's inherent to that chip

i pray every night in hopes that nova lake will save us from the amdisaster

>>107953040
yes, from mining abuse.

>>107953058
What happened to us being bailed our by Bartlett lake S?

>>107953071
i'll abuse your mine

>>107953085
w-what do you mean d-desu

>>107953094
HE MEANS ANAL NIGGA
HE'S GONNA FUCK YOUR BUTT!!

>>107953097
but I poop from there!

Still incredibly happy I bought my 5090 for MSRP last summer. And my 64GB of DDR5 RAM for sub-$200. Feels good bros..

take the gay shit to /vg/

>>107953115
Ya wait fags really got BTFO

>>107953071
Nope

So do we know anything about this Asus boards cooking 9800x3ds yet? Bad bios update? Another case of XMP profiles pushing too much power to the cpu?
My 9800x3d is sitting in an asus board right now but it’s off.

waitchads.. our time will come..

Should I make the jump from AM4 to AM5?

Does CPU undervolt/PBO offset stability represent itself differently in symptoms than with GPU undervolts? Using the same CPU undervolt I used just fine with a prior GPU, but my current GPU is giving me heavy stutters even with stock GPU settings. It's nauseatingly bad. It's been inconsistent...but noticeable enough that I have to restart to fix it sometimes. Likely my new GPU is just a lemon?

>>107953187
Speculation currently is mostly around Asus's aggressive PBO, the BIOS update released today caps PBO voltage to 1.4V on a hardware level as a safety precaution.

Personally, I have my 9800X3D manually tuned and haven't witnessed it ever going above 1.29V in any scenario.

One of the speculations i've seen is that it's about how the motherboard/CPU is waking from deep sleep states, essentially going from 0V or near 0V to 1.2V+ in a few milliseconds, and the VRMs overshooting and delivering a burst of 1.4-1.6V+.

>>107953211
nah

>>107953187
Seems to be some sort of issue with the processors themselves, given it's occurring across multiple manufacturers and product lines.

It's hard to really say it's much to do with overclocking or performance optimisation, because it's occurring on more basic budget-oriented boards that don't do that.

>>107953256
>Seems to be some sort of issue with the processors themselves, given it's occurring across multiple manufacturers and product lines.
Lol and these companies aren't blaming AMD becuase AMD just has SUCH a stranglehold on the industry that Asus couldn't POSSIBLY go against AMD...right?

Asus and ASrock are willing to accept blame because they just care so much about maintaining AMDs image.

Come on chud, at least try to be more believable with your lies.

>>107953215
Never heard of CPU instability causing stutter. If your CPU is unstable the system usually freezes or reboots.

>>107953264
Nah, I imagine they're just not doing it yet because getting it wrong is far more damaging than just saying "Uh, we're looking into it".

It's the same shit that happened with Intel a few generations back. People started by blaming motherboard manufacturers, then gradually as it became evident it wasn't just one, or even two manufacturers but instead an issue with the chip itself, Intel finally owned up to it.

>>107953274
Yeah but in this case the investigations are coming back and showing it's almost always the motherboard vendors fucking around with the voltage settings and ignoring AMDs tested limits.

And again, considering the Asus BIOS update today specifically limited core voltage during boost to 1.4V, it's pretty obvious Asus already suspects where the issue lays, even if they haven't finished their investigation.

>>107953265
>If your CPU is unstable the system usually freezes or reboots.
That's what I'd think. I have a golden CPU that can manage -30 on all cores and has for a few years without issue, but this new GPU is acting up so fucking much...it's inconsistent as hell. Stutters, frame chugging, the whole deal.

>>107953264
asus dont make motherboards. they make amd and intel boards. what happens if they bite the hand that feeds? hmmmm....

>>107953284
Yeah, it's probably the AMD's chip tolerances for voltage are lower than they claim.

>>107953318
More like the 3D-Vcache is especially sensitive to voltage and Asus and other motherboard manufacturers are used to years and years where they've been able to play PRETTY fast and loose with their voltage tweaks to squeeze out "free" extra performance.

>>107953324
9950x's are dying too. so its not an x3d problem but a zen5 problem

>>107953205
someday.. perhaps.,....

this happens so often with amd products and you are still trying to blame anyone but them lol you guys are actually pathetic

I can't decide between a few pc cases. I'm doing a rebuild with a new 5070ti, 9950x and mobo. coming from a nzxt h7 flow which is some broken front ports so I'm looking to replace

I'm considering the Liam Li Lancool 207/216 or the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra. I like the compactness of the 207 but I hear cable management can be annoying. the 216 and phanteks look nice but also quite big. I want to make sure I have ample room for everything but not have a huge heavy case. maybe the 207 is okay enough?

>>107953329
for that matter, 9700x's are dropping like flies too. 9800x3d's are just overrepresented since that single SKU outsells all non-3d parts combined in the diy market

>>107953329
Again, the fact it's so rare means it's likely just poorly binned chips hitting specific scenarios with aggressive stock voltage boosts making a perfect storm where some chips get fucked.

If it were an ACTUAL hardware issue it wouldn't be so isolated to specific motherboards or even BIOS revisions.

Im not saying Zen5 doesn't have more stringent voltage requirements than Zen4, but AMD themselves have flat out said, none of the motherboard OEMs follow their voltage guidelines to the letter, and that's on them.

>>107953355
If it's statistically relevant, large hardware partners like Puget systems and similar companies would be raising alarm bells.

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not like this buttlet lake bros...

>>107953368
so? nova lake is this year

>>107953373
>e-cores
fukken dropped

>>107953378
retard

>>107953368
Told you delusional peeps. Edge only.
Just like people expecting more AM4 X3D.

we are so fucking barack bros! it's never been so over for micron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzfhhAfxK-A

>>107953388
he's starting to sound like a used car salesman
not trusting Chinese QA

>>107953394
nobody is forcing you to buy some right away as it drops. leave it to retards to do smth like that. just because you can only import crap from china doesn't mean they can't make proper stuff as well.

>>107953388
i fucking love china

>>107953215
>>107953265
>>107953302
It's possible the higher fps load from the GPU is putting more stress on your CPU and the instabilities are now showing. Ryzen will clock stretch when its unstable but it happens so fast it probably wont even show up in hwinfo64 but you can definitely feel it as stutters.

>>107953406
i just love competition.

>>107953388
fuck the dram cartel. they are turning me into a communist.

>>107950844
I have zero issues with text. I don't even see the problem when looking up really close.

>AM5 CPUs dying on Asus, MSI, Asrock and Gigabyte boards.
>No way it could be the chip themselves. It's gotta be the motherboards!

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>>107953438
Can you stop being a fearmongering faggot

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>>107953452
>pu get(intel)systems

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>>107953461
so amd system are even more reliable than the claim?

>>107953388
>retards in the comment sections fellating china
these retards realize if xi were to invade taiwan then prices would soar even more right?

Recommend me a good 1440p IPS monitor with a KVM switch.

>>107953461
> Members of advisory boards for partner programs (unlike Intel's corporate Board of Directors) are generally not paid a salary or retainer. This is a non-fiduciary role, meaning they do not have legal authority over the company, and as such, they are not "employees" or "contracted directors" receiving a paycheck or stock options for their time.


He's an advisor because it gives him and his company direct access to intel engineers and likely early hardware samples for testing/evaluation, as well as technical details of upcoming hardware, potentially years before they're made available to the wider general tech industry.

>>107953478
yeah and? they are building their own memory now, don't they? i would go as far as to say that it makes taiwan more irrelevant with those actions to the chinese.

>>107953388
god i can't wait for obviously counterfeit ram and nvidia or amd graphics cards but with 4 to 6 random letters as the brand name instead

>>107953488
Xi and the party in general have been parroting reunification as the ultimate "goal" of the party for the better part of 100 years at this point. Even if they don't ever actually invade taiwan, they at least need to make a show of it to say they gave it a good college try.

>>107953407
Is there anything I can monitor to confirm if this is the case? Or, something like unstable boosts (even at stock) in HWInfo?

>>107953496
even the americans know that there is only one china because they have a one china policy

>>107953490
nanya ddr4 was made using stolen micron documents and they behaved nearly identically to micron rev e iirc
now cxmt has stolen samsung documents so there's a chance they will behave like samsung ddr5 b-die

>>107953490
>counterfeit ram
so nothing changes? i don't understand.

>>107953503
So then why the fuck has the party been bitching about it for 4 generations?

>>107953498
first run it stock and see if the stutters go away. if they do then you will know right away its unstable. you can also run game benchmarks that include frametime graphs like shadow of the tomb raider or call of duty. when the cpu dips the frametime graph will dip hard.

now that I think about it, if these “cheap” chinese ram were to hit us markets, would they actually be cheap? wouldn’t tariffs affect these as well?

>>107953523
it'll be cheap for us non-americans

>>107953511
i don't give a shit i just want my cheap ram back

This is probably the final generation of affordable consumer PC hardware.

After this we'll be priced out of the market and we'll be forced to rent our hardware from the cloud like cucks.

It's been a good run boys, I hope you can keep your hardware going for as long as possible. If we're lucky we can pick up workstation/sever scraps in the 2030s for cheap. Otherwise consumer "computers" will all become essentially thin clients designed to connect to cloud services for all of the actual processing.

I doubt by 2035 we'll even have a consumer PC gaming market anymore, at least nothing like what it currently is.

>>107953511
so that they stay consistent on the matter so that it doesn't come out of the blue when they actually make a move? like they make it very obvious and don't hide the fact that there is only one china which is based on the chinese mainland and not taiwan. to the point that even the americans don't challenge this position. like how would the americans justify intervention if texas becomes its own state? oh they are actually americans and we are the real americans.

>>107953533
just wait 15 years and your mobile phone's soc should be more performant than an rtx4080

>>107953530
EU, mexico and certain latin american countries also have tariffs on china last i checked

>>107953531
Lol well that isn't happening, sorry.

The chinese RAM will likely at best stablize the prices and maybe bring them down SLIGHTLY.

But we're never seeing $5/GB RAM prices again.

At best we could see RAM come back down to maybe ~$250 for 32GB kits.

>>107953553
china likes to export and make money. doesn't make sense to not export a lot for euros and dollars. they want market share they are in for the long game after all. you don't really get that with a worse product at a slightly cheaper price. amd can sing a song about that.

>>107953570
since half of the factory is owned by china itself it would also probably used to stab japan, taiwan and south korea as a bonus by lowering the ram prices.

>>107953570
It takes time for them to ramp up and scale production, by the time they're producing it in quantities needed to meaningfully impact global supply, prices will be hiked even higher due to the big 3 selling to AI companies. So the prices at the peak WILL come down, but they'll only come down slowly, and we likely won't even see prices like we see today until mid to late 2028, or early 2029, with the $250 figure i mentioned likely not being until mid to late 2029.

>>107953570
Chinese companies are also incredibly capitalistic, if anything they’ll mass produce this cheap slop, and it’ll be $50 cheaper than the competition, remember anon, profits above all

We've had so many cycles of doomfaggotry over the past ~15 years that it's just meaningless at this point
Just wait a year or two and you'll be able to buy what you want

>>107953588
and if you're wrong, you'll have to decide between buying a car, or buying a PC before you can't even buy consumer PC hardware, regardless of the price.

>>107953592
yeah, now this is hyperbole
zoomie? or just some schizophrenic boomer?

>>107953490
>guys should I get the KUIIN CTX 9000 or use the coupon for a VANEI 8500SX

>>107953614
you should probably get a life and make it yourself before buying anything from china obviously

>>107953582
based commies using capitalism against itself

Best capitalism is made by commies. Clown world

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>Crucial 32gb RAM CL36 6000mhz selling for $325 on Amazon
If you can’t afford this and you’re over the age of 28, then you’re doing something wrong senpai, ngl

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>>107953653
>cl36-44-44

>>107953653
being able to purchase something and it being a wise decision are two distinctly different things

>>107953660
funny timing numbers mean nothing to me

Most AI companies have realised raw compute hardware scaling isn't the answer.

But they're also realizing they need more/better training data which requires a ton of HMB/RAM/NAND to store and process that data. Basically most AI researchers don't think throwing more GPUs and more data at the problem is going to lead to the emergence of AGI. It's likely going to require a deterministic "brain" that has hard coded knowledge and a reality it "knows" to use as a litmus to check against. Then the LLM portion as the "chatty" interface portion of the AI. Currently being called "Neuro-symbolic AI"

And really this will likely also require deeper hardware integration of GPU and CPU (hence the recent Intel/Nvidia investment/partnership) architectures in the long run.

So yeah, prices aren't going to come down unless the bubble pops. If you think any of this shit will come down in price to where it was even 3 months ago, I have a bridge i'd love to sell you.

>>107953653
not as bad as people are making it out to be honestly

Is it worth spending the extra money on a platinum rated PSU?

>>107953677
Nope

Buy whatever PSU has the features you want in the budget you can afford as long as it's 80+ Silver/Gold, you're fine.

Avoid 80+ Bronze because in 2025+ it just means they don't give a fuck, it's piss easy to hit silver/gold levels these days.

>>107953653
Still a better deal than the $300 I paid for two 1x16gb 4800cl40 micron sticks in late 2021

>>107953684
Thought so, thanks.
What about "cybernetics" gold? That's new to me.

>>107953636
oh they only got themselves to blame. china is just going to exploit the weakness. can't really fault them for that.

>>107953708
Honestly many people consider cybernetics more legit these days as 80+ is seen as easier to cheat and "pay to play". The tier system they use is the same, so 80+ gold and cybernetics gold should be equivalent.

are external hdds e-waste?
or if cheap enough gud enough as more backup redundancy?

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>>107949920
I have never heard of 3090s being over 3k in the last like ...ever.

>>107953743
Depends on the drive, sometimes they're good NAS/Enterprise drives that are worth shucking.

>>107953745
Don't low ball him, he knows what he's got.

>>107953726
Nice. Thanks again.

>>107953745
only in 2021

Do you think waitfagging will be rewarded after new fabs are built?

>>107953808
No

Do monitors with 2 display port inputs just not exist?

>>107953808
New fabs will be used solely for AI

EVEN DRAMLESS NON 3D NAND IS GOING FOR +180 WTF IS GOING ON MAN I AM SPOOKED

>>107953856
forgot to add "sata ssds" but still, jesus.

>>107953808
intel already has fabrication plants built in several states thoughbeit..

>>107953827
premium ones do. not so premium ones budget cut by giving you hdmi 2.0 and dp 2.1 or only one dp 1.4 and 2x hdmi 2.1

Got my medium form factor build almost done, but I don't really have any GPU risers "short" enough for such a small case. What do people use for risers on these mini things

>>107953886
>GPU riser
it's so oger...

Why are satas more expensive than equal size M2s?
Am I missing something here?

>>107953894
they make less of them now

>>107953808
Waitfagging will ultimately lead to suicide lel

>>107953865
Damn, so I gotta spend money just for an extra port.

>>107953856
the dram/nand cartel tasted what the AI money train is like and they cant have enough of it. they went for the nand right after that and now were seeing the effects

>>107953894
m.2. are higher volume, are easier to manufacture and cheaper to ship out than sata ssds

>>107953893
>>GPU riser
Err I mean a support bracket thing

>>107953936
Anti sag?
You can always manually make one out of random stuff like a stack of coins

>>107953917
or it will lead to the ultimate cheap build thanks to all the new fabs.
Even a 6060 TI 16gb Could be <$300 with all the new facilities.

Waitfags will inherited the (digital) Earth. HOLD!

>>107953944
>Anti sag
Yes holy fuck I need to sleep.
I guess maybe I can look at change tomorrow thanks anon

>>107953950
>he thinks a 6060TI will have more than 4gb of vram

>>107953950
>Waitfag is a poorfag in disguise
Classic

>>107953967
YOU will be crying for getting impatient(again) when you could have waited 1 year for the new fabs to come online.

Isnt every AI company, or atleast their AI divisions, bleeding cash out of every orifice?
I think gpus will be fine in a few years

>>107954072
what was that?
Another BAILOUT INCOMING! ANOTHER TRILLION TO SALT ANTMAN!

>>107954051
>>107953950
Wait an entire year to save $300 vs having something you use and enjoy daily now. Wow you saved a whole $25 a month! And guess what? At that point the next new and better thing will be a year away so why not wait some more!

>>107954051
wait a year to save $400? not even slightly worth it

>>107950037
why would you need all of that on one massive drive
is this a joke post?
genuinely cant think of an actual reason for a 4tb nvme to exist, its such overkill

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>>107954110
>massive
>4TB
4TB is barely enough storage for Windows. 8TB is the bare minimum these days. If you want to be safe, 16TB is your best bet. That should last you at least 2-3 years.

>>107954142
fake news
16tb is only good for 8 months at best

if you don't have 64tb you're going to run out of space fast

90tb is just right for a scratch drive

I'm still mad by the time I thought about getting a new nvme drive, they had already shot up. I was keeping up in the past few months and apparently I can go fuck myself for that one.

The recent slowness of these threads shows how over it is...

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>used to hit bump limit in an hour or less
>now takes all day just to max out one thread
It's over.

theres no good games
a 5600+3070 will let you play all of the greatest games released in the last 10 years

>>107953614
kek

>>107953549
Stuff like cars and solar panels. Chinese e-waste abounds in EU and you can order it straight from Aliexpress and co where only 0.1% of parcels are checked by duty.

That being said, DDR4 from China is as expensive as anywhere else. About 200€ for 32Gb won't make me praise Xi the Pooh.

Do you REALLY need those 4TB 7000mb/s 4.0s tho
can't I just get myself a 2tb 3200mb/s for like 130 or something

Funny how out of touch some tech journalism is. Basically saying 8gb GPUs are ewaste and games will have to include 'garbage mode' for them to be usable.

very much ignoring that the vast majority of prebuilt and mobile GPUs are still 8gb, so yeah, they are the market standard still.

any waitfags reading this:
prices will never go down. it's not just AI but inflation. Are you waiting for McChickens to go back to $1 before buying one? If you want something buy it now. If you don't want anything buy some kind of investment, hell that might include computer parts.