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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
*On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

>OS
Install Gentoo

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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Why does Buildcores have to update their 3D models so slowly? I want to pretend to build more PCs and look inside their pretend innards.
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>>107950884
>you have to run very short cables
False, have the 6.6 feet one and it just works
pic rel
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQ7KY639
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How much can I sell this 6600 for? It's an 8 gigabyte Sapphire model
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In recent news nvidia stopped subsidizing msrp cards due to vram pricing so for the next couple years you can only buy amd gpu, am4 amd cpus with ddr4 ram or pay double for nvidia and 5-10x for ddr5

have fun building pcs
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>>107955284

This is my build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800X3D (In hand)
GPU: XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT (In hand)
Mobo: Gigabyte B650M Gaming WIFI (In hand)
RAM: 16GB Kingston FURY Beast (In hand - Single stick)
Cooler: Antec A400i (In hand)
SSD: Lexar NQ790 1TB (In transit)

Which screen and psu should I get?
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>>107955312
1000w PSU so you can easily upgrade to the 5090. Wait for new screens with the latest oled tech coming in Q1/Q2
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>>107955336
Wouldn't it be better to get 1200w at this point?

Also OLED 2k screen is good?
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>>107955336
Assuming you really have a 5090 at some point. How do you deal with 600 W heating by the gpu alone? Its hot
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>>107955312
sar storage and ram not enough sar please redeem
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>>107955305
Give that back, Jamal.
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>>107955305
less than 100 bucks but list it at 150 and let them haggle in case you get lucky
that's a Sapphire Pulse which is a reference-like/MSRP model
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>>107955305
>>107955376
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>>107955365
I'm not indian

I'll get another ssd
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>>107955393
16gb is going to be stutter hell in some games just bear in mind
especially one stick halving your bandwidth
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>>107955400
It's pretty expensive, but even Gemini is telling me to get another stick
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>>107955406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5v52R4qnk
i would also guarantee some of these games that didn't stutter would on a real pc that isn't an environment controlled test bench.
Also thanks for the despair in the pit of my stomach reminding me people unironically use ai hallucinations for information
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>>107955418
Okay, sorry for using the tools at my disposal
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>>107955423
i have an 8-ball in my closet and i don't consider it a tool but it could serve much the same function as ai
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is an rx 9070 for $500 a good deal, and will it have any chance playing older games (minecraft, kerbal space program, rdr2, gta5, squad) at 1440p or 4k? I am planning on buying a 4k monitor (Gigabyte M27UP) and probably a 4k tv later down the line, but would consider a 1440p setup if the rx 9070 cant handle 4k
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>Thermalright TL-M12Q

>Quick connect
>Looks nice
>Cheap
>Quiet

What's the catch?
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>>107955431
id go for xt version, it should be fine for 4k
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>>107955284
>>4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
Is this actually true or not?
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>>107955461
well you cant buy 5070 ti anymore but 9070 xt can play video games at 1080p native res and upscale it to 4k
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>bought 3060 Ti 5 years ago
>want to buy new GPU
>"Hmm, let's see what cards I can get for the same price I bought the 3060 Ti 5 years ago"
>they have the same specs as the 3060 Ti
I thought you guys said Moore's Law wasn't dead anymore? What's the actual upgrade from a 3060 Ti?
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should I get a 3070 for $220 or drive an hour longer and get a 6800 for $260. fuck I don't want to drive that long
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>>107955500
spec improvement wise gpus ground to a hault after 3080 release
tsmc nodes had much better perf per watt but they also cost more and since amd dropped the dgpu ball after 2018 release of dlss nvidias monopoly meant they didnt have to cut their margins

if I were you id rush to buy a 5070
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>>107955503
6800 is obsolete according to AMD.
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>>107955500
moores law which states that the cost of a transistor halving every 24 months is very very dead
were still getting better nodes but the cost per mm2 is going up
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>>107955429
Come-on, ai is far above an 8 ball
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>>107955534
That's not what Moore's law is tho.
It doesn't mention cost at all.
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>>107955553
your right in an intellectual sense but real world products have size/cost targets and having to hit that target with increasing wafer cost means you get less silicon and transistors every generation than what used to be possible
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>>107955500
the 3060 non-ti was the best cost-benefit card of the last 4 years until the 9070 xt, which is the best cost-benefit card right now, but it's a segment above the 3060
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>>107955500
>>107955574
Should I wait for the Intel B780? Intel's GPU prices are very attractive but so far they haven't released anything high end.
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>>107955584
the b580 is already a good card but I wouldn't recommend it because intel is not there yet with drivers, suspect b780 will be the same
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>>107955593
The B580 has basically the same raster performance (or worse) as the 3060 Ti though. The B780 is going to be higher end but we don't have anything concrete yet.
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>>107955593
>intel is not there yet with
Mesa is great on Intel though
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>>107955584
Nope. B770 has been rumored to exist for well over a year and there's still no sight of it
Buying a Radeon 9060xt 16gb or 5070 before prices rise is your best bet for a modern upgrade from your 3060ti.
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>>107955571
We are simply hitting physical limitations of how small we can make transistors.
Without some technological revolution we will be stuck at the current process nodes for a while.
Going from 4090 to 5090 doubles the transistor count, but it's hard to imagine it will continue with 6090 because that would also mean at least 800W of power draw and $5000 price tag minimum.
Prices went up mostly because of how monopolies work.
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>>107955623
I'll just hold onto the 3060 Ti. My upgrade history in the last decade has been this:
>HD 7850
>RX 470
>RTX 3060 Ti
I'm used to doubling my raster performance 4-5 years down the line for the same price; I don't feel comfortable doubling my price paid for a less than 50% performance upgrade.
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>>107955672
this i the worst time to upgrade anyway, in a few years intel samsung and tsmc will all be stuck in 1.4nm and unable to get lower and prices for high end pc parts will start to get better
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So how long do you think we're going to have to wait we can easily get Chinese made RAM kits and SSDs in the US?
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>>107955701
in the us? years, the rest of the world? 6 months
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I don't know if the UK used market is particularly extra jewish or something, it's cheaper to get some parts shipped from the US than just buy from a local seller.
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>>107955672
I used to upgrade every time I could at least double the performance for a reasonable price, but now I would need to buy a 5090.
Next stop 2028, maybe . . .
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>>107955713
So what I'm hearing is I'm buying Chinese RAM and SSD from an out of US retailer
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>>107955658
we have one last PPA upgrade with GAA / BSPD but things will grind to a halt after that. its gonna make the current node shrinks look like a golden era compared to what's coming next.
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>>107955725
not gonna happen under the current administration
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>>107955500
moores law is not related to price, just development
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>>107955672
>ATI Radeon 3870X2 dual GPU
>2x Radeon 6990 in 4 way xfire
>4x GTX 780Ti in 4 way SLI
>2x RTX Titan in NVLink
>Now have a single 5090

I really wish mutli-GPU support was more expanded on. I missing slamming a bunch of GPUs into a case. Justified having an absolutely bat shit crazy liquid loop too. Now I have a single CPU and single GPU like some sort of fucking plebian.
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>>107955771
next gen multi gpu will be back, but not for rendering, just for vram and loading bigger ai models
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>>107955730
It's looking grim, but it's comfy at the same time because there will be no reason to upgrade.
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>>107955312
You really need another identical stick of RAM. Dual-channel is a good upgrade for your system, and 16 GB is pushing some games to the limit anyway (unfortunately).
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>>107955771
get the msi lightning z 5090 when it releases. it uses 800w and will feel like your previous dual/quad gpu setups
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>>107955774
eh that's already a thing as is, just minus the bridge you used to have driver support for, i.e. Xfire, SLI, NVLink. Even AMD eventually ditched their physical xfire bridge requirement and just went with having the cards communicate via their PCIe interfaces. I just don't know why game developers entirely gave up. there are so many titles that already look staggeringly good. why would you not want your game engine to be like all the physics and rendering on 1 GPU. All the AI for the NPCs, map loading, ray tracing, etc on GPU 2? Dedicated PhysX cards used to be a thing too.

I'm sick of the stagnation there is with hardware, games, game engines, etc. Bring back the wild shit. Where's the innovation?
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>>107955794
>get the msi lightning z 5090 when it releases
nah I already have a founder's edition RTX 5090 because I wanted the compatibility for slapping a waterblock and backplate on it. I used to be an EVGA fanboy but they're out of the game :(. I have a 9950X3D and said 5090 underwater, the 5090 is actually down volted and I dialed back the boost clock by around 75MHz. The card now doesn't see beyond 65C under full gaming load.
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>>107955716
We definitely have one of the worst used markets around for computer parts. Pretty much every single seller is a ripoff merchant.
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I'm getting my first 1440p monitor soon and I was wondering if there's any major difference between 27" and 32" screens? I heard 27" ones have a better picture quality due to the smaller size.
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>>107955833
yeah you want 4k for 32"
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Amd's apus are fucking cooked
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>>107955833
24" max for 1080p, 27" max for 1440p. 32" max for 4K. Anything beyond that and you start noticing invidual pixels. I own an Asus IPS 1080p 144HZ 27" monitor that I got for $85 open box. 27" is far too much screenf or as few pixels 1080p has. Same goes for 32" for 1440p.
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>>107955848
releasing amd handhelds without ml upscaling in 2026 is literally insane
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>>107955848
if it wasn't for the playstation amd would have given up on gpus altogether and would only be selling ai upscalers
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>>107955859
maybe it'll force devs to make games fucking work without upscaling so that upscaling can be the crutch for slower cards it was meant to be, not a requirement even with high end current gen cards to even run the damn game above 30 fps.

Everything has gone wrong.
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I'm unironically rooting for Intel GPUs to swoop in and start dominating the consumer market. AMD and Nvidia are busy jerking off AI companies as best they can and when the bubble finally bursts, they're going to come back to a GPU market where they phased themselves out. Buddy of mine has nothing but good things to say about his Arc B580 so far, barring driver growing pains.
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>>107955841
>>107955857
Thanks bros. Didn't want to get the wrong thing.
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>>107955879
Intel got punished in stock value this week for focusing too heavily on consumer products so they'll probably check out of consumer chips all the same after the next few products already being tested are launched
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>>107955891
>AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Various RAM companies
>all funded with a bunch of tax money injections and given tax benefits
>All pulling out of the consumer market and not even having product for the common people to buy
I for one welcome our eventual Chinese overlords at this point.
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>rush am5 rig last december due to shortage news
>restore 2010 macbook to working condition over the last few weeks
>end up running the macbook more often daily
i guess i can increase my pc's longevity this way but wth man.
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>>107955913
As much as people like to shit talk Apple, their products do in fact just work.
>Desktop is a giga build with RTX 5090, 64GB DDR5, etc
>Got a Mac Mini m4 with 256GB SSD
>Use the Mac mini 99.99% of the time for all my stuff.
>Giga PC is literally a glorified console at this point. It only gets turned on for gaming
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>>107955833
32" is 40% bigger than 27" screens
Picture quality depends on many things but the simplest metric is PPI, 27" 4K will look better than 27" 1440p (you'll probably need some scaling for desktop apps). And now they're coming out with 27" 5K later this year. 32" also carries a heavier price penalty than 27" along with more limited options.

After many good years at 27" 1440p I'm going 32" 4K. The only problem now is picking a monitor. It ain't easy. I hate the monitor market.
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>>107955913
>>107955958
If you primarily use the web browser or do productivity stuff Mac is king. We got macbooks here beating RTX 5080 PCs here in Browserbench.
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>>107955848
I dunno what AMD are doing right now, Panther Lake seems to have spooked them somewhat and they've started up cope marketing. They were the ones that lazily chose to put RDNA 3.5 on everything again.
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>>107955833
For me, 27" is not a significant enough increase in workspace over a typical 1080p monitor. I'd get a 32" monitor, be it 1440p or 4K.
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>>107955986
only thing I hate is the SSD storage is soldered on. I can't even upgrade the interal storage even if I wanted to. My Mac Mini was $400 for the 256GB model. It's $800 for the 512GB model. The fuck? I make due with an NVME external so it's no big but still.
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BEEP BEEP BEEP IT'S BEEN 4 HOURS 8 HOURS 16 HOURS 24 HOURS

IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN

MANDATORY PIXEL REFRESH TIME BITCH

FUCK OFF


Do OLED owners really live like this?
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>>107955992
Those greedy kikes didn't think intel would be enough of a threat for them to have to spend $10M+ porting rdna4 to mobile and they're reaping what they sowed
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>>107955992
They're resting on their laurels after intel fucked up so hard.
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>>107955958
Shit, I’ve been looking to buy a gaming PC and this is my fear. I have an M3 Pro Macbook and I can do everything I want with it, apart from playing games. It’s hard to justify buying a gaming PC just so I can play games for a few hours per week.
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>>107956029
moderner oleds have 16-24h timers so for 99% even if they use it all day the refresh wont start until they go to bed and the monitor is in standby
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>>107956029
On my Alienware it doesn't do a fullscreen pop up. It has two pixel refreshes. One when you turn it off after 4 hours and another that takes an hour but only when after 9000 hours.
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>>107955958
You don't even need a MacBook for this, this is just the general desktop/laptop dynamic
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>>107956041
do you think the companies do this kind of shit on purpose? When Intel was top dog, they let AMD catch up and now AMD is eating their lunch. AMD FINALLY gets to be known as top dog in consumer performance, is catching up in the mobile market, slowly clawing themselves some foothold in the server market. Then they get lazy and get face fucked. Like how/why does AMD not just put the hammer down and start slamming Intel into the dirt?
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>>107956065
AMD can post greater profits if they spend less on R&D.
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>>107956065
Their CPU teams are doing just that in servers. But they're definitely getting lazy with consumer hardware (e.g. zen5 IO die, rdna3.5+++++) probably because of the AI scam
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https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/intel-says-it-has-two-prospective-customers-for-14a-expects-to-hear-about-commitments-in-second-half-of-2026

NVIDIA WON

14A BACKSIDE POWER DELIVERY GPUS
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>>107956049
Unless you need something 5090 tier or want 4K gaming you might be better off with just a handheld or that steam machine. I'm waiting to see what the Panther Lake handhelds bring, I know MSI has something cooking up with them.
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>>107956049
Depending on the games you have in Mind, you can just get a console or build an eBay special PC. I found I only really play Apex Legends, World of Warcraft, and whatever slop gameof the month my friends think is worth wasting time on. I think the only single player high fidelity game I have coming up that I give a shit about it Resident Evil 9.
>>107956064
it's just that the Mac/Apple systems are nice for normie tier shit. Like my Mac Mini M4 was $400 brand new and is by far the smoothest experience I've ever had. It all just works. Any mini PC I can get for $400 now would be a stutter fest trying to watching youtube videos let alone anything else.
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>>107956075
tldr we dont see next gen gpus until 2027
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>>107956075
>NVIDIA WON
they won a long time ago
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>>107956074
>zen5 IO die
didn't even do a Zen5+ with just an IOD refresh to get a 10% gain even though its free performance they left on the table.
AMD is definitely in their getting lazy phase
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>>107956084
You're not wrong. The average Windows laptop feels like a total piece of shit compared to a Mac or even Linux Lenovo.
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>>107956096
It's pretty fucked. Zen5 epycs are validated for higher memory speeds (6400mhz jedec) than zen5 Ryzen (5600mhz jedec) despite having 8-12 channel memory which is insane to me
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>>107956029
Just turn it off
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>>107956072
I can only imagine what a company like Intel/Nvidia/AMD could accomplish if they weren't so focused on pleasing shareholders. I know money makes the world go round and of course people want to be monetarily successful, but man, if money wasn't the end all be all, we'd be so much further forward.
>>107956074
I've seen quite a few more people and even my company I work for ordering EPYC based servers which is a huge shift.
>>107956096
from speculation/rumors, the 10800X3D is supposedly going to be something like a 30% performance increase over the 9800X3D and will be utilizing DDR5 8000MHz as its "go to" RAM kit (similar to how 6000MHz is right now)
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>>107956084
Entry tier macs are a decent option now that the base spec has been raised to 16GB, it just depends whether you can stomach macos
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>>107956109
that just turns off the reminder
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>>107955788
Yeah, Gemini convinced me to get another one and keeping my iPhone
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>>107955312
So another ram stick, what screen and psu should I get?
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>>107956114
i can stomach macos but not that paltry ssd storage jesus it's like they crammed an iphone into a laptop chassis with that shit
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>>107956111
>>I can only imagine what a company like Intel/Nvidia/AMD could accomplish if they weren't so focused on pleasing shareholders.
Depressing shit really. They could all do so much more with what they have
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>>107956114
>it just depends whether you can stomach macos
eh it's not so bad. It and Windows 11 really makes me appreciate my Ubuntu installation. I'm holding out hope for that Steambox Gabecube or w/e they're calling it will bring a game ready Linux distro to at least a little more mainstream. It's Arch Linux with game ready drivers and out of box experience as a priority. Would give me a reason to get an AMD GPU as well.
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>>107956116
I have literally never once been forced too run one, just have the reminder pop up in the 2893 hours that I have used the monitor.
With that many hours of usage it actually doesn't remind me every 8 hours like I have it set to, but every 2 hours. Can't change it at all anymore but I can just remove the reminder.
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What's the best OLED monitor I can get right now? I'm tired of waiting
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>>107956158
wait
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>>107956147
As someone who owns some really nice IPS panels, is OLED/Q-LED truly that life changing it makes potential burn in worth dealing with?
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>>107956158
Right now? XG27AQWMG

But if you wait WAY better OLEDs are coming soon. RGB Stripe. 4th gen Tandem OLED. 5th Gen QD-OLED. No text fringing. God Tier shit. Of course they'll all cost thousand dollars.
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>>107956165
buy oled only if you have money to set on fire otherwise don't bothere. if ips is enough for you why ruin it for you? There will be a better technology to upgrade to in the future that doesn't have oled's dog shit aspects sooner or later. Maybe microled.

>t. also just using IPS for now
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>>107956158
4th gen tandem woled or 4th gen qd oled. but both are probably out of stock or on preorder/backorder.

as for which is better it depends on (you). if possible to go your local big electronics store that have tvs & monitors out on display like best buy, walmart, microcenter, brandsmartusa, etc.
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>>107955986
browsing especially, yea. forgot how much i missed the keyboard and trackpad on this thing
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>>107956177
that's what I figured the case was but you know, new must mean better. I've of course seen all the really nice whatever-LED TV's and monitors when I'm walking around FUCKING BEST BUY and they're eye catching, but not "spend $2500 on a monitor or $7k on a TV that's going to have burn in in 3 years" eye catching. I spent $600 per IPS panel I have now and they're great.
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I've narrowed it down to XG32UCG (IPS, £500) or MPG 321URX (qd-oled 3rd gen, £700). These are most I'm willing to pay. It's just deciding if OLED is worth the jump and the extra steps and the worse text. I'd kms if I scratched the panel.
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>>107955312
>>107956136

Help please?
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>>107956203
>new must mean better.
damn, either you're trolling or im jealous of your age
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>>107956234
I'm being facetious of course but that's the mentality of the company's pushing their new shit. And I'm old enough to remember the transition from CRTs to dog shit TN panels with enough backlight bleed to make a lamp jealous.
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>>107956220
OLED is personally worth it for me because it deals with eye strain better. I can look at an OLED all day and not get tired. When it comes to IPS the backlights does shit to my eyes overtime.
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>>107956254
Really? I thought the opposite was more common with OLED causing more strain
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>>107956225
Cheapest 850w gold rated PSU from Corsair, Seasonic, Superflower, EVGA, whoeever has a sale. Monitor is 1440p, IPS, 100HZ or higher, depending on your budget.
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>>107956269
Tyvm.

About the screen OLED is like 200 dollars more, from LG, is it worth it?
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I wsih they would make ultrawide ips monitors but it's still only VA, which sucks
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>>107956261
At high brightness I can look at the OLED at morning & night without eye strain. On LCD I need to lower the brightness at night to prevent eye strain but that makes everything look all washed out and it still isn't doing true blacks like the OLED the pixels shut off so I don't see light.
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>>107956225
MSI MPG A(850w-1000w)GS PCIE5
or
ASRock Steel Legend SL-(850w-1000w)G

I lean towards MSI
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>>107956295
Id go with asrock
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>>107956278
Personally I don't think OLED is worth it no unless you OK with the fact that screen may suffer from burn in problems in 2 years. IPS is a tried and tested tech. Something like LG UltraGear G6 27G610A-B 27.0 I would consider decent. Good price, major brand, 1440p, IPS, 200HZ, VRR, Stand is height adjustable, tilt, turn, etc and not over the stop stupid RGB gaming bullshit.
>>107956281
I don't know what you consider ultra wide but there's plenty of IPS monitors with non 16:9 resolutions.
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>>107956323
The screen isn't that expensive ,tyvm
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The Odyssey G5 G53F is $160 on Amazon right now. Is that a decent monitor to just game and browse on? I really don't want to drop a shit ton of money on a fancy monitor right now, I just need a new one.
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>>107956348
yeah
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>>107956295
pic related. I don't know about MSI or ASrock PSUs
>>107956348
yeah it's fine
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>>107956323
>plenty of IPS
it needs to be minimum 180hz for me
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What is a cheap OLED that isn't "bad"? Nothing outstanding but not low quality.
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>>107956367
What's the best LG screen ips I can get? I just can't stand Samsung

1440p 144+ hertZ
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>>107956367
Don't get the rm850e if you're sensitive to sound. The retarded semi passive design causes the fan to start spinning every 2-3m. I returned it and got a bequiet.
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>>107956376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=403q5B6hhBQ
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH
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>>107956371
Pic is all that comes up. Most big boy ultra wides are going OLED/QLED
>>107956390
see >>107956323
there's plenty of other IPS panels you can waste money on from LG but that's because they come with HDR shit you're not going to notice or use and G-sync ultimate VRR which don't matter. Don't go above $300 for an IPS panel. buy what fits your needs.
>>107956376
don't buy cheap OLED. Spend $250 to $300 on a really nice solid IPS panel. "Cheap OLED" starts at $600. QD-LED starts at $450-ish.
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>>107956405
most people's builds will have their CPU/GPU fans muting out the PSU fan
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>>107956412
>vidrel
>would you rather have two sticks of ram or an oled
give me the ram
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>>107955833
I daily drive both a 27” and 32” 1440p monitor and almost always default to the 32” once. I usually just end up scaling everything on my 27” monitor up because how small everything is, it’s a pain to read or make precise clicks sometimes. How far away you sit matters a lot which none of the other anons acknowledge. There’s definitely charts that exist about distance vs resolution vs pixel density. I’d recommend going to a brick and mortar store and physically looking at the difference to decide why you like more.
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Between the RX 9060 XT and the RTX 5060, which is the better GPU?
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>>107956220
>>107956323
Just buy an OLED so you can quit crying about it.
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>>107956480
9060 xt 16 gb
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>>107956480
both are pretty bad investments
nvidia has better software stack
no one should buy a <12gb vram gpu in 2026
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i7-14700F
2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz
RX 9070
Would this be okay for 1440p gaming?
Is the 9070 worth an extra ~£120 over the 9060 XT, and what is the difference between different versions of the same card, for example PowerColor 9070 Reaper and Sapphire Pulse 9070
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>>107956539
yes and yes, the 70 is a much bigger chip
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>>107955312
So add 16 gb ddr5 ram
Get a 850 -1000 psu gold
Get an ips 1440 screen

Hepatics that are good? I think I'll get razer mouse and keyboard?
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>>107956554
razer is a meme, get logitech or chinese mice
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>>107956220
If you're content with IPS panels and their limitations, keep using them until OLEDs improve further in 3~5 years.
If you can't stand the IPS glow and low contrast, try the OLED if the seller offers consumer-friendly product returns.
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>>107956539
>difference between different versions of the same card, for example PowerColor 9070 Reaper and Sapphire Pulse 9070
only a slight difference in noise while performance is generally within ~3% based on slight power limit and factory OC differences
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>>107956558
Last time I built a PC (2016) I remember it was the shit

So from AliExpress, and your recommendation , g502 mouse and what keyboard?
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>>107956455
>How far away you sit matters a lot which none of the other anons acknowledge. There’s definitely charts that exist about distance vs resolution vs pixel density.
Did some research and used a ppd calculator and assuming I did everything right, a 32" monitor would apparently work pretty well from where I sit.
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>>107956569
research the mice size adequate for your hand size and grip
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>>107956544
>>107956567
Cheers lads
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>>107956172
What is soon? It's already almost February...
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>>107956084
>It all just works.
Is this novel to you?
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>>107956586
My hands are pretty big sadly.

How do I check it?
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>>107956607
I go to the mouse review subreddit
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>>107956603
from a lifetime of using Windows PCs that if they're not something NASA would use is a slow, stuttery mess, yes. Seeing basic hardware give me that experience is something I've never had.
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>>107956592
You can buy 4th gen tandem right now if it isn't out of stock.
The new QD-OLEDs arent until Feb-March.
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I want to upgrade my RAM but my current sticks are out of production, there is a newer model out but that one has a slightly different latency (16-16-16-36 vs 16-18-18-38), could I use that newer model? Or should I try to find RAM from another brand with the same latency? Or pay $80 more to fully replace my RAM and try selling my current sticks?
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>>107956656
it should work
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>>107956656
you'd almost certainly have to reduce your ram speed anyway to run stably with four sticks mismatched or not. the extra capacity will be more than worth it so just do
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>>107956412
>As an OLED product, this display needs
>regular screen maintenance to reduce the
>risk of image retention (burn-in).

lol stamped on the first page of the manual
that's reassuring
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>>107956592
>>What is soon
They'll likely launch after Computex so at least June/July
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>>107956697
>a reason to go outside and touch grass
It's a feature
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>>107956697
Literally every oled says and does this but its near impossible to burn in picojet displays
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>>107956172
>But if you wait WAY better OLEDs are coming soon.
name some of them
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>>107956739
Check out CES 2026. All of those are coming out in a few months.
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Hey do I put the ram/cpu/cooler on rthe motherboard AFTER I install it in the case, or before?
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>>107956823
i've done it both ways many times, there's no hard rule, but it's generally easyer to install everything outside the case.
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>>107956823
>RAM/CPU
Yes
>cooler
depends, generally no, but you might need to install a backplate/mounting hardware before you install the motherboard in your case.
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>>107956823
air cooler yes, liquidmemecooler idk
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>>107956823
i like to install the cpu/ram first, install into the case next followed by all psu cables connected before installing the cooler and gpu
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>>107956829
Unless you've got a fairly small aircooler, it's usually best to install the cooler once the motherboard is installed.

For example my NH-D15, while it COULD be installed before putting it in the case, if I did that it would 10x harder to plug in the CPU power cables as the large NH-D15 tower blocks access to those connectors.

If you're using one of those tiny OEM heatsinks, then it might be not a problem.
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>>107956829
>>107956832
>>107956836
Do I just sit it on the staticbag/cardboard part it came in? I'm worried about breaking shit....it's been 10 years since I last built a PC and a LOT has fucking changed.

Air cooler also - is straight line down the center still the best for the paste or did they discover better?
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>>107956850
put it ontop of the mobo box
do a X
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>>107956855
>>107956839
>>107956846
>>107956836
Thanks
>>107956829
>>107956832
Thank you guys - picture of my dog as payment.
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>>107956876
you just know
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>>107955284
yikes, it looks like the 9850x3d has zero real world improvement over the 9800x3d. amd's IO shitlet strikes again
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5850X3D rumours any time soon
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>>107955500
5060ti 16Gb
5070
5070ti
from +30% to +70% performance increase

just dont buy MSI because they used low end compoments
and Gigabyte because they used thermal goo that will slip off gpu in few months and subpar thermal paste
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/shopper-walks-out-with-a-usd4-99-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gpu-from-goodwill-thrift-stores-are-the-hidden-goldmines-amid-the-ai-driven-gpu-crisis

damn the future of /g/aming is thrift storing???
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>>107956850
Frost the cake. It guarantees max coverage.
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>>107956911
Yeah we know you posted it in the last thread, spammer
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My case can do three fans on top.. should I do In In Out if I got an air cooler?
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>>107956995
out in in
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>>107956995
out in
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>>107956640
But it's only 1440p, will I be able to get used to a downgrade when Ive been looking at 4k MiniLED??
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>>107956911
I mean, I'm not sure what people were really expecting here. The 9800X3D was already heavily binned; the only thing a 9850X3D will bring you is slightly better binning, and even then the silicon hits a wall at 5.6Ghz, which is why they're not going any higher. Most good 9800X3Ds can hit 5.4Ghz anyway, so you're getting at best 200Mhz and maybe very slightly lower voltage if you're lucky.
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>>107957016
9850x3d can also be overclocked and gain +200mhz
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Are any coolers good for a 9950X3D doing full 100% extended usage for video processing that are also silent?
Want to process things overnight but the computer is in the same room.

Is this something you would need an exterior liquid cooling box for or can a big cpu cooler actually work?
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>>107956911
>Can't get 8000MT/s to work without desktop crashes
MUH MUCHURE IC BINNING KEK
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>>107957013
its lower PPI so text clarity will be slightly worse but if you already use DLSS4 or FSR4 then you already know 1440p already looks as good as native 4k.
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>>107957031
Okay, where is it?


Everything i've seen you can't just add +200Mhz in PBO and expect it to work.

I've seen people doing external clock generators to run them higher, but that's not anywhere near as simple as PBO.
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>>107957063
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d-reportedly-hits-5-75-ghz-with-all-cores
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>>107957063
>>107956911
Ryzen is already pretty much at the clock limit just like Intel. The best you can do really is undervolt rather than overclock to sustain those higher frequencies longer.
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>>107957073
That's only CPU-Z stable.
The chip in >>107956911 can't stably handle a -10CO because the factory fused V/F curve's got a finer margin.
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>>107957073
Yeah that doesn't prove anything.

You don't even know if he's using PBO boost, or doing external clock generation shit.
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>>107957107
200mhz is obviously pbo boost, idiot
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>>107957124
It's not 200Mhz though, it's 148.7Mhz

And that would mean if he IS using PBO, then his spread spectrum is lowering his BCLK from 100Mhz to 99.1Mhz, which is way below spec (most motherboards keep you between 100Mhz and 99.5Mhz)

In any case, that is not a normal PBO overclock.
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>>107957145
>>107957124
It's clock stretching and the motherboard is automatically lowering the BCLK to compensate, which is lowering the clockspeed further.

Some motherboards (especially ASRock or ASUS "Safety" profiles) may drop the BCLK to 99.1 MHz if they detect the user is pushing PBO too hard. This is a "stealth" way for the board to maintain stability by slightly underclocking the entire system bus.


So yeah, if that IS just a basic +200Mhz PBO overclock, it's not working particularly well.
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Isn't that the whole selling point of X3D? You just drop it in and game. Tuning doesn't seem the hassle it's not like early AMD GPUs where you had to do manual clocks and manual voltage to get the advertised speed.
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>>107956999
>>107957002
Thanks, I meant to say from front to back but your posts confirm
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>>107957185
no, you buy a computer, then you spend 2 days tuning the memory and validating, then you spent 2 more days undervolting each cpu core and validating it, then you overclock gpu ram and undervolt it for each game you play, then you install arch linux and now you can yourself a real pc guy, doing less than that you're just a scrub that should be building prebuilts
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I’m starting to think it’s hopeless holding on to hope for a recovery from this
Might just buy a really good laptop for productivity and cope with consoles for what little gaming i do
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>>107957200
When I first built my PC in 2009 we didnt have to do all that. The most advanced BIOS thing we had to do was make sure AMD Cool n Quiet / Intel Turbo was enabled.
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God now I get why waitfags are insufferable. Fucking miserable not being able to enjoy content properly without the newest OLEDs and Steam Controller. Makes me wanna buy inferior shit. Fuck me
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hey there /pcbg/ im coming with a couple of questions. currently have a 5700, and im looking to upgrade for better gaming performance/all around nice to haves. I've been getting some sound crashing/artifacting issues in what I've been told is a RAM access issue that could also be CPU related. my options seem to be to get a 5800X3D and keep the current AM4 platform or basically start from scratch and go AM5, likely a 7600X or 9600X but possibly a 7700X/9700X.

is Ryzen 7 that much better than 5 to justify the 100-150 price increase on processor alone? I do use my computer for gaming as well as some music production and digital art. pic related is my system
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>>107957308
there are no x3d am4 cpus for sale, but they will make new ones so wiat
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>>107957210
Microcenter still has insane bundles including RAM/CPU/MOBO for $300.

Intel GPUs have exceeded the performance of NVIDIA/AMD entry level cards for a 30% discount.

Its a fine time to be a PC gamer, but you need to embrace the 7600/7500x3d and Intel B580.

If you do that you can build a killer gaming PC for like 750 bucks
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>>107955434
No infinity mirror or whatever they call it.
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>>107957330
are there any news about am4 rerelease?
why would they bother with "cheap" option when they can sell the more expensive models duh
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>>107957376
there was an amd employee saying there were working on it, that's all
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>>107957368
>Intel GPUs have exceeded the performance of NVIDIA/AMD entry level cards for a 30% discount.
B580 is shit on by 9060 XT, 5060 ti, and even 5060. It only competes with last gen 4060. Stop shilling slow pootel arc garbage
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>>107956995
it depends if you have a tower cpu cooler and where that fan sits
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I'm starting to think the entire ram situation will change drastically in the next few months after what happened yesterday in the markets, I think big money is getting the fuck out of the US, started with bonds and stocks will follow and that will kill open ai
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Frens
What's the difference between
>Kingston Fury Impact 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 Laptop Memory Single Stick KF432S20IB/32 Black
$218.35
and
>Kingston 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Laptop Ram, Green, (KVR32S22D8/32)
$313.33

Both are 32 GB x 1 but the first one is cheaper for some reasons
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>>107957470
ofcourse
I did pc upgrade and I do them right before things get better
>end of crypto
>end of covid
thank me later
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>>107957470
what happened yesterday?
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>>107956911
there's still no real bios update for 9850x3d. like yes it will work but theres no optimizations or anything like 9800x3d got post agesa.
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My boomer dad is looking for an upgrade to his PC. I built it in like 2020

>10400F
>3060
>16GB of RAM
He mostly just plays D2R and total war games. Is it even worth it to upgrade now before prices become retarded or should I wait?
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>>107957530
depends if you can get the 9070 xt for a decent price, I assume he wants better gfx in total war
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>>107957530
That still sounds like enough desu.
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>>107957474
the first one is clearly better
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>>107957530
you might consider 9070xt

ddr5 is really out of the question at this point but you might eventually see an am4 refresh cpus that make sense
if you can buy 32gb ddr4 for a reasonable price that might be the viable upgrade, or just stick to the am4 cpu + existing ram.
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>go to sleep saying I'll get the 32" IPS
>wake up wanting the 32" QD-OLED
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I got a 14600K recently and while my computer's thankfully running, I'm also noticing that spicy bitch is just chilling at 100c when the computer's idle or when I'm doing some basic internet browsing. I haven't had too much time to fuck around with it because of work so I'll ask here.

What kinda settings should I mess around with in the BIOS to help resolve it? I've set lite load to Mode 1 for right now and I already have the BIOS update for 13th/14th gen. It seems like the BIOS update changed a lot of shit and by default it made my 14600K set to Mode 18 for some reason, which was just insane.

This is on an MSI B660 motherboard, so any help would be appreciated. I have a feeling it's definitely a BIOS setting I need to adjust to help calm this thing down.
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>>107957597
Are you using the stock cooler? It sounds like a cooling issue if your i5 is running that hot
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>>107957597
Your cooler is fucked/mounted wrong
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>>107957597
>100c when the computer's idle or when I'm doing some basic internet browsing
Sounds like an improperly seated heatsink, or no thermal paste.
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Anyone else got issues maintaining a -60mV undervolt with their 9070XT? I get occasional crashes in Rise of the Ronin. I was told that -60mV was the fallback in case -70mV wasn't stable due to silicon lottery, but my machine appears to disagree. I've also set the power limit to -30%, in case that matters.
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they should make the cpu cooler protection films out of material that works as heatspreader
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>>107957662
-30% seems excessive. i mostly see -20%
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>>107957662
Im at -50 I had issues with -55 playing switch emulators, I think -50 is safe always but you have to tune for each games, some games can do -120
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URbW3j_GYKg

Spoiler Alert: 7900XTX won
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>>107957662
most usually cap out at around between -40 and -50. some games really hate the boost clocks on amd so you have to set profiles for them to do slightly lower while the rest are high and stable.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/redditor-discovers-card-skimmer-script-on-canadian-retailer-checkout-page

If you're from leafland, and bought something online from the main Canada Computers site for the past few months, you may have been compromised via a Magecart attack.
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>>107957597
Buy a better cooler and install it properly.
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What does it mean when you push the power button and the lights flash for a fraction of a second before the PC shuts off with a click from the PSU? It keeps happening and it won't boot.
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>>107957735
I wonder when some malicious actor is going to put this in a gacha game
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>>107957772
Power GOOD signal from PSU failed. Usually means a cable is not plugged in all the way\damaged or the motherboard is being shorted by something.
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please god let the monitor I ordered not be trash I don't ask for much I just don't want any dead pixels or backlight bleed
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>>107957793
We'd have $20 dollar 16k microled panels right now if it weren't for monitor companies conspiring to keep selling OLEDs at 9000% markup.
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>>107957793
>IPS
>didn't pay $10,000 on it
you are gonna see the GLOW and go FUCK and order an OLED
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>>107957786
It happens without the GPU. I've already taken out the CMOS for a while, and nothing's changed. Could it be the RAM stick?
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>>107957880
replug all the psu cables on both the unit and board. take the mobo out of the case to make sure screws or metal isnt shorting it out. if it still doesnt boot then the psu is dead or mobo.
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https://www.microcenter.com/product/698930/powerspec-g457-gaming-pc
Looking at this one, any good or look elsewhere ?
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>>107957597
wtf
remount your cooler right now you retard
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Got a new PSU for a new build but re-using the same GPU (4090): Do I use the 12V-2x6 cable that comes with my PSU or the 12VHPWR to 2 8-pin PCIe cable that I've been using? Current and new PSU both made by the same OEM, and manufacturer has stated the 12VHPWR cable works on any of their 2+ 8-pin PCIe model PSUs, so cable compatbility isn't an issue. Been using the 12VHPWR to 2 8-pin for almost three years now with no issues, but not sure if it one is demonstrably better or worse than the other.
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>>107958005
always use the psu cables
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>>107957866
>OLED
lmao enjoy your monitor forcing you to take a 5 minute break every 60 minutes in order to prevent burn-in and then still getting burn-in 6 months later
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Would some anons please give their thoughts on if my GPU may need a return (barely under 30 days), or if some simpler shit is amiss? I'm running an Asrock 9070 XT 'Challenger' card, having gotten it around four weeks ago. I mostly ran undervolted, but even at stock, I'm getting a stuttery feeling in both desktop and especially in games. Frame dips are insane and sluggishly bad. Before, it might resolve if I restarted, but it is no longer doing it for me (maybe very subtly less shit). I checked:
>Temps
They're very fine under load, even hotspots, but I frequently see high hotspot deltas. It is usually 10-15C, but I've seen it spike a few times towards the 20s.
>Mem clock weirdness
100 mHz difference minimum at stock, may easily have 200-ish gap under load, worse if undervolting even slightly (like -30mV for example).
>Other processes, CPU settings, etc
I'm on the latest drivers. Not sure if they've fucked things up or not, but it wasn't clear of issues before either. I can possibly go exchange it today, but MicroCenter is like an hour away. Fuck, I wish I bought a better card off Newegg or something...
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Is it still worth buying a PSU tester to check if the PSU turns on and doesn't spark before you plug it in to other components?
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>>107958065
Do DDU and reinstall the drivers. Also if you switched to this from an nvidia card you might need to reinstall windows totally, GeForce drivers change thing in the registry and shit that DDU can't fix
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>>107957165
>It's clock stretching and the motherboard is automatically lowering the BCLK to compensate, which is lowering the clockspeed further.
Would be funny if even stock 9850X3Ds clock stretched.

90% of consumers wouldn't notice.
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How many nits would a monitor need to be to photorealistically recreate the sun?
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>>107958095
The sun's surface is roughly 1.6 billion nits, though to realistically mimic that to our visual perception, a screen would only need to hit ~20,000 nits, which would theoretically allow the display to VISUALLY match bright daylight conditions.

Current HDR standards cap at 10,000 nits, and current display technologies are limited to ~4000 nits (and consumer shit is all ~1000-2000 nits at most).
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>>107957597
lol to my great embarrassment the last time i mounted a cooler i left the plastic peel cover on the bottom of it after decades of doing it correctly
i'm surprised it ran at all but it did, just hot. check that
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I do believe there is a 9800x3d problem but does anyone find it weird how each new Reddit post is made by an account with almost no posting history? The posts all read the same too and have nearly identical images of the 00 code on their motherboard. Last year I remember one of the posts was by an actual bot too.

And don’t be mistaken, I’m going back to intel when I can, but something about this issue feels off.
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>>107958125
its prob a bit redundant to try and recreate conditions that would blind people

even if you have a bright spot its probably pointless to go from 1k nits to 2k from experiencing the media without pain perspective

our oled monitors struggle to have >300 nits on a 10% window size so theres room for improvement there tho
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>>107957999
yeah its a good deal
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>>107958074
Reinstall the same (latest?) drivers even if I updated from Adrenalin?
>Also if you switched to this from an nvidia card you might need to reinstall windows totally,
My past GPU was a 7900XT, and I did DDU+install fresh drivers before anyway. It's just gradually gotten worse and unstable over the past few weeks, enough so it's tripping me up how progressively unstable it has gotten. There was an AMD driver update not that long ago too, but I don't know. It's bizarrely bad regardless.
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>>107958141
Oh yeah, i'm not ACTUALLY suggesting we need 20,000 nit screens or anything, just that's the theoretical LIMIT for human visual perception.

I think 2000-5000 nits for OLED specular highlights is "good enough" for just about anything but professional/scientific uses.
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>>107957999
the microcenter prebuilts are good deals rn. if you're mostly gaming and don't mind the color scheme this one for the same price is probably a slightly better buy https://www.microcenter.com/product/698875/powerspec-g730-gaming-pc but the one you linked is fine too
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>>107955284
What is some of the better keyboards right now?
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>>107958187
I got a Keychron because I don't have to run software running in the background for profiles. Its all stored on board. I don't know if it's a meme or not but It's been good to me so far. I had to get away from Razer and their shitty bloatware causing issues.
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>>107957713
The absolute state of Windows.
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>>107958136
I think you're a samefag troll.
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>>107958204
>had to get away from Razer and their shitty bloatware causing issues.
that is literally the reason I am wanting a new keyboard.
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>>107958206
amd stuff ages really well on linux because the mesa driver team is actually competent unlike the amd driver team
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>>107958167
Just gaming and AI, wanting it to last me the next 10 years because I am getting too old for this shit.
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>>107958206
Wow. That is amazing. To bad Linux can only run three games. And I'm not praising the bad of shit windows has become, I'm just stating a fact.
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>>107958125
>visually
no I want it to be like I opened up a 27'' portal to the surface of the sun in my bedroom
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>>107958206
IMPRESSIVE
if only I didn't beat this game 10 years ago
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>>107958216
I got a Keychron and Logitech Logitech G502 X. Nether need background programs. The mouse is amazing and I got a hot swappable keyboard so could try different switches. I have a set I really like now. Very expensive for me, but fuck Razer.
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What are some good prebuilds on Newegg ? My budget is about $2G ?
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>>107956539
>Is the 9070 worth an extra ~£120 over the 9060 XT
The 6000hz ram wont make your CPU that much faster (you are talking about maybe 10% more fps in games, 20% more in productivity like blender rendering, and ddr4 is fine as well), it's AMD where you want faster ram for gaming (but this info is old, honestly it's possible newer benchmarks prove me wrong, or that the 0.1% lows are way worse).
But of course, if you are only spending 10% more compared to 4800 ram / 3600 DDR4, then you get what you paid for (the nice part of 4800 ram is that you don't need to touch settings in your bios to get the advertised speeds).
Also, you can go with just 1 stick of 16gb ram and go with the 9060 XT 8gb or 5060 (AMD is better for linux, that's basically it, I want to get a gsync pulsar more than an OLED, but I will probably not get either because I will wait for my 1080p IPS monitor to die, And gsync pulsar won't work on AMD or Linux).
The 9070 is like 2x the power of a 9060. The 16gb 9060 is a weird GPU that only does well on monster hunter wilds, or other very specific console port benchmark games (I think every benchmark games kind of suck, but they are benchmark games because they run like shit).
16gb of vram is not necessary for 1440p.
The PC you have is good for 4k. You could run 1440p with no FSR with that PC.
Also is the 14700k even that good for gaming for it's price? You seem to be paying 9800x3d prices for $200 9600x gaming performance... I thought you were getting a budget CPU, like the 13400f (it's not better than the 9600x, but close enough for it's price, I have not checked other CPU's there might be a better intel 12-14th gen cpu that's cheaper, depends on country to find a good deal).
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>>107958261
This is pc building general. Not pre built pc general. Leave the thread, go ask on reddit, then kill yourself faggot.
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>>107958206
More like the absolute state of AMD's pre-DX12 drivers. Not a problem with Nvidia cards
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>>107958240
the performance should be noticeable between every dx11 game. its no secret that dxvk makes games run faster on windows.
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>>107958125
>mimic that to our visual perception
Actual blindness risk from staring into the monitor sun confirmed.
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>>107958296
I tried there, they said you're a seething faggot and to stay here.
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>>107958304
RTX 5090 is actually losing to 7900XTX
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>>107958261
>^
what that guy said
But I don't like prebuilts because you typically only get 1 year of warranty.
Every part of your PC will get around 3 years of warranty, some PSU's go up to 10 years.
Depending on the policy, you don't even need to hoard the box, they will ship you a new GPU so that you can put the old GPU into it so you can ship it back (that's what they did with my monitor).
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imagine that they can't make cars go any faster so instead they just start welding more storage to the car so it can move more in one trip

that's the state of cpus for the past 2 decades
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>>107957662
There is no safe except for stock and some AMD cards can't even do that without crashing because of AMD's loose hardware QA
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>>107958321
Stfu, you sound like a whiney faggot too
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>>107957583
Sometimes your brain needs a chance to process. I find that waiting a few days before decisions helps to come to the best conclusion (and sometimes even allows new facts to come to light)
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>>107958328
And adding faster gas stations.
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>>107958338
isn't this the 5th time you spammed your post?
do you want me to count?
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>>107957713
Poor RDNA2 Owners
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>>107958221
the amd team gave up lol, they're fully endorsing radv as the official vulkan driver for amdgpu
https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMDVLK/discussions/416
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>>107958354
Stop spreading lies
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-1-1.html
Latest adrenalin has a bunch of fixes for rdna 2 and 1
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>>107955284
>*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
so... only use MSI?
>Implying the regular folk can arrange anything with the current prices
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>>107958321
>But I don't like prebuilts because you typically only get 1 year of warranty.
You understand why that is right?
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>>107958369
buy AM4
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>>107958369
No, MSI has had reports of AM5 failures too.
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>>107958377
jesus hell... gigabyte?
though the realistic option is >>107958376
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>>107958386
Don't listen to him there is nothing wrong with msi. Gigabyte shit is garbage
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>>107957597
>6 replies to nicotroon bait
>>107958296
good points but doesn't hit as hard anymore
next time you have to tell them you're going to dissect their family with a chainsaw
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>>107958386
Happening on Gigabyte too.

Now, you might think "Huh, if it's happening on all these MOBOs, surely the common factor here is the CPU".
But, unfortunately, that makes you a schizo fanboy trying to discredit AMD. So, it's not that.
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>>107958341
My rational part says: get the IPS, your room is bright, it's easier maintenance, it still looks good, no burn in, much cheaper, no reflections

My consoom part says: GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED GET THE OLED

Choices were a lot easier when I didn't have the money for this stuff. I was unironically happier
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>>107958418
Why is she Indian?
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>>107958145
I tried this as you advised. Everything seemed fine on my desktop and in two games I tried (Arc Raiders and The Finals) initially. However, I loaded up Counter Strike after taking a brief pause in the browser here, and it started performing extremely poorly. Same performance weirdness. My temps seem fine. I am completely lost as to what is going on even if referencing HWInfo.
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>>107957264
You don't need one of the latest OLEDs, just a decent OLED (4K, 240 Hz, 32" 3rd gen QD-OLED or some equivalent WOLED, 27" fags don't @ me), and really an older OLED would still be amazing compared to lower panel techs like IPS.
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>>107958427
He boughted AMD
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>>107958386
Gee anon it's almost like maybe there is a flaw beyond the scope of mobo manufacturers
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>>107958363
Now AMD+Valve need to port RADV to Windows.
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>>107955336
What do you think of the Seasonic PRIME PX-1300? It's a 2022 PSU. How "future-proof" would you say it is?
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>>107958462
I'm waiting for KTC to save me from overpriced OLEDs with their new tandem.
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>>107958576
Doesn't work that way, Windows drivers aren't openly split the way they are on Linux. RADV "only" replaces AMDVLK as the middleman between Vulkan software and AMD's AMDGPU, it be made because the latter is mostly open-source (except for a proprietary blob which it needs to function).
AMD would need to release open-source Windows drivers for anyone to start developing anything resembling RADV.
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So many oled seethe reviews on reddit from early 2025 have people coming back a few months later saying oh yeah it was all the nvidia drivers fault the screen was actually fine lol
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>>107958070
>>107958070
Anyone with experience have any input on this?
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>>107958579
https://hwbusters.com/quick-tips/should-i-get-an-atx-v3-1-psu-or-an-atx-v3-0-will-be-fine-everything-you-need-to-know/
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crazy idea here but couldn't they just make the lcd cells like twice as thick and then they'd block out 99.999% of backlight instead of 99.99% and then you'd have true blacks?
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>>107958639
The Vulkan driver on Windows is AMDVLK but with a different compiler since Windows is dumb about SPIRV. If AMD is dropping AMDVLK officially then they need a new driver on Windows.
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>>107958658
No, you stack two LCD panels, one that is monochromatic (black and white) to control brightness, and then the 2nd LCD panel is just your normal panel.

The problem becomes you need a LOT more light to shine through the 2 layers.

It's called dual layer LCD.
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>>107958658
But then you'd lower peak brightness by the same factor. What matters is the difference between the highest and the lowest achievable transmittance, making it thicker just means you need to waste more backlight power for the same result. That's why the relevant metric for black depth is contrast and not the absolute brightness of your black or whatever.
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>>107958658
https://youtu.be/ibEN9FTLdkI?si=5lMHaMsge2Cl8ncq
Just watch this.
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>>107958579
NTA, I just bought the 1600 and it's ""refreshed "" to have 3.1 atx compliance, maybe they do the same for the lower wattage?
Excellent psu though, very happy with the numbers
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>>107958418
>IPS
>it still looks good
As an IPS user who hated IPS contrast even before switching to OLED, I cannot agree.
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Which monitor do I get from these? I'm thinking the cheapest if there is no downside. Or do I just get the Gigabyte M27UP
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>>107958697
Not really though. Dark pixels would block out more light when thickened than light pixels. You'd overall get a dimmer image, but if you cranked up the nits it'd counteract it and you'd get darker darks and brighter brights.
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>>107958781
acer
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>>107958536
But it's clearly a 1080/ti.
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>>107958697
>>107958849
Just get an OLED. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
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>>107958849
I don't see how that would work. Intuitively, I'd assume the decrease in transmittance at both ends would cancel out and give the same contrast ratio. That video is interesting but those comparisons at the end are worthless without normalizing for brightness.
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>>107958905
Most people use their browser than media.
OLEDs are terrible for that.
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Most SATA SSDs at normal prices seem to be dramless garbage.
Still, I want to add 4 TB to ride the apocalypse but I don't know which. Since most of these are entry level I might as well go for the cheapest but I don't know.
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I have two fans on my CPU heat sink, and they can't be daisy chained. I know I plug one into CPU FAN 1 but where do I plug the other? There isn't a 'CPU FAN 2' anywhere on any of the sides. Do I use pump or system fan?

And if I use System Fan, how will it know it controls the CPU fan?
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Jewf*s is doing live 9850x3d testing
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>>107958938
hsf should have come with a fan splitter. if it didn't you can buy one for like 2 dollars
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>>107958960
>>107958960
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>>107958949
no he's not
and no one cares
buy an ad
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I'll make a real thread...
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>>107958870
what about the philips one? it has hdr and 10bit while acer doesn't
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that op reads like a parody to make people dislike amd and their fanboys rather than an actual attempt at shilling. idk what to believe
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>>107959041
>>107959041
>>107959041
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>>107958982
Yes he is, stop being retarded https://www.youtube.com/live/JviOPa9GTos
Now commit suicide for spreading misinformation
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>>107959066
just go back like 50 minutes
it's a 9800X3D
i still don't get why you think this thread is a good place to shill your channel
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>>107958418
the only IPS you should buy is the Pulsar if not buy the oleds
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>>107959063
Looks legit

>>107959041
>>107959041
>>107959041
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>>107959082
Right he jebeaited me with the title
I'm commit soduku now kek
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Debating on which case I should get, either the lancool 207 or the 217 INF. I know the thermal perfomance should be about the same on both and it comes down to mostly looks but I'd like to read some opinions. (100~ usd vs 140 usd, the price for living in a third world country.)

Also, has anyone used the DeepCool PX1200g? I could get it for roughly 120 USD while every other 1200w PSU is something like 60ish USD more expensive, I checked the tierlist and it seems to be all good but again, would like to hear some thoughts.
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>>107959126
you can't do that, he still needs more money from you
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Ignore spam duplicates that will be deleted
This is the real thread
>>107958960
>>107958960
>>107958960
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>>107958938
you should have one of these >>107958968
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>>107955614
Okay Jar-Jar.
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>>107959143
Just watch the content never donoed never subbed
Jewfs can't boot his 9800x3d system without crashing kek
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>>107959219
kek
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Looks like the shillthread is getting spammed with low-quality garbage selfposts.
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>>107959339
Nope just no one wants to use your shitty duplicate made out of salt because you think your entitled to bake the OP no matter what. Cry more
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>>107959391
? I did not bake anything today
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If AM4 x3d are really back to the menu, any idea how much money I should save? I have absolutely no idea what the price could be.

>>107957490
Kek. Are you me?
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>>107959151
A massive number of your threads have been deleted
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>>107958697
>But then you'd lower peak brightness by the same factor.
good
bright images bring nothing but blindness
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>>107956960
>from +30% to +70% performance increase
Paying 2-3x as much for not even double the performance?



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