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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

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And again three threads were baked, for the RAMpocalypse had not yet destroyed /pcbg/

At least this one isn't shill.

May the gods bless OP.

>AIO came with 3-pin RGB cables.
>Motherboard only had 4-pin RGB.
Wot do?

>>107959177
https://old.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/comments/17aqazq/motherboard_has_4_pin_but_fans_have_3_pin_rgb/

>>107959177
Just don't use the glowie. Or buy a 3pin RGB controller, IDK.

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Welp the 9070 XT is still the "value" leader, better price/performance than the 5070 Ti.

Anyone with a 9070XT testing the new drivers? Are they guuud?

>>107959258
No.

>>107959340
Its actual news on Toms Hardware you hmong. IDC what people run. I >>107959258 don't have an amd card but I do build systems for normies. Budget is important to most of them and stability is important to me so I don't have to listen to their insufferable whining.

>whatever works for you

>>107959258
You get more FPS than the last driver but they broke DDC/CI.

>>107959527
>they broke DDC/CI
Well, shit. I normally don't recommend using OEM stuff to control the monitor anyway as most of it is hugely bloated but thats kind of a basic fuckup on their part.

I have a pre build Lenovo desktop here without motherboard fan speed control. Any fan controllers that I can use to change the speed of the CPU fan? Currently eyeing the
>Corsair Commander CORE XT
but this seems relatively expensive to just change the fan speeds. The problem is that the CPU fan ramps up at about 85 degrees Celsius, but nothing happens before it so the curve is fucked. I cannot change it in the BIOS or otherwise, and Fan Control does not recognize the motherboard controller, so I need a dedicated controller.

>>107959588
Does the Lenovo have fan speed controls in the BIOS? Do you know which fan controller is being used on the mainboard?

https://www.techspot.com/downloads/7419-fancontrol/similar/

>>107959551
They also fucked up the Adrenaline control panel its more buggy than before. It either randomly closes or just shows nothing. A workaround is to install the panel from the MS Store because its older but it works.

>>107959527
>>107959612
I suppose I can just use last months driver for this one, maybe by the time all the parts are in they will have it fixed. Thanks anons for the input.

>>107959607
>Does the Lenovo have fan speed controls in the BIOS?
Nope, none whatsoever. I'll try some other tools but Fan Control only sees the GPU fan. There is nothing else recognized, not the CPU fan nor the intakes/exhaust (although those are fine as it stands).

>>107959623
Good idea stick with 25.12.1. There will probably be a hotfix update later.

Which one is the real thread and which one is the fake

>>107959679
Both fake. None of this is real. Only a fool trusts what they read on 4chan. Do your own research and you'll be - well, hopefully, happy.

>>107959679
depends, are you straight?

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>>107959709
Only on Saturdays

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>>107959258
>9070 XT is still the "value" leader, better price/performance than the 5070 Ti.
+ no Pulsar

>>107959734
>no Pulsar
If that was a concern I would address it in the build and provide the client with the alternatives. It's their money after all. Most already have a monitor so new features like pulsar aren't an issue.

Is it still worth buying a PSU tester to check if the PSU turns on and doesn't spark before you plug it in to other components?

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Dear former fellow waitfags.
I am sorry to inform you that I ordered a marked down 9070xt. You can consider this a betrayal, but I really did not intend to betray you. Im sorry, that was probably the last cheap 9070xt. Price went up straight 50€ after I ordered. I have broken my own claims. I dont know. It feels good tho. I will sell my other gpus. You can find good deals on ebay. Maybe you will buy my GPUs, they are in good condition. Thank you for being a gamer. I will turn up the graphics settings a bit now. It will be sharper a bit. I paid money for this. I hope you are well,
yours not so sincerely it seems,
former waitfag
virgin (literally) buyfah
dame da ne
dame da
no
dame da
Thank you

>>107959819
PSU tester is only for cheap PSUs. If you got a decent one it will flicker on for half a second and shut off because Power Good no bueno.

>>107959041
Salem witch satan place computer build.

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>>107959850
>Initially wanted to build a new PC around Black Friday since everything was going to shit.
>Figured I could just wait the whole thing out and coast by with what I had.
>As time went on fomo started creeping in and I feared things would be worse for longer than anticipated.
>Finally caved in and bought parts for a new PC.
>Didn't even get the GPU I originally wanted.
I am a weak man. Every decision I make in life is wrong.

>>107960003
should have boughted immediately
-person who also didn't bought

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Any minute now….. POP!
Huang will be begging for us back. Practically handing us 5090s for pennies. Yep. Aaaaany minute now.

>>107959897
Yes I got a HX1000i so I guess I should be fine
I haven't installed a PSU in a decade so it's been a hot minute
>shut off because Power Good no bueno.
sorry but... can you explain this?

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Anyone tried out MX-7 yet? is it easier to spread than MX-6?

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works for me

>>107960245
Put it on my Silent Loop 3.
Felt pretty easy to go on, didn't spread it or anything just did a little X like the package told me.

>>107959696
>didn't do research
>still happy
the power of being retarded is immeasurable

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toasting in the real bread

>>107960149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_good_signal

>>107960245
even mx-3 is still fine. The improvements are beyond marginal on this newer stuff. Buy what's available/cheap imo

USA
1,800
What are my options ? I just want to game honestly

>>107960245
I didn't spread my MX-6, just do a X pattern

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>>107960246
I wonder if they'll even be open tomorrow (snow storm).

>>107960460
>>107960246
BIOS flash into XT model. Enjoy $500 5070ti killer. If you fuck up you at least have dual BIOS.

Apparently my case supports vertical mounting of my GPU.
it's a Fractal Define 7 XL.
Any good riser cable suggestions? Everything seems hit and miss on Amazon.

Also, is it really beneficial to mount vertical? Better life of fans and less prone to damage the mobo and GPU PCB?

>>107960460
probably not. those aren't exactly flying off the shelves anyway, just get it when the roads thaw.

>>107960455
A prebuilt from Microcenter is your best option.

>>107960511
if you have a heavy gpu, vertical mounting is just the best solution to ensure there's no bending and chip separation/damage. Even anti-sag brackets can cause pcb twisting or reverse sag in some cases.

The downsides come if your cooler uses a vapor chamber, you can lose up to 10c of performance. It's a real meme and a half since said vapor chambers are only shaving 1-3c off of a normal coldplate. Look into your model's cooler before you decide to go vertical. Or just lay your pc on its side to simulate a vertical mount and test the temps.

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Ayyy it finally arrived after a month, but it was 250 bucks

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>>107959041
>that case
>GPU isn't a Red Devil
1 (one) job

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>>107960538
all GPUs have demons trapped within the PCB traces anyway

>>107960052
Seriously though it's always funny to watch gaymers pretend that they'll ever successfully boycott anything. This whole "they'll have to beg us back" charade is pretty pathetic when you just know that GeForce cards will keep flying off the shelves no matter what.

>>107960538
If you're spending a bunch of money on a custom build, why would you waste it getting an AMD midrange card?

>>107960536
Anon, I'm sorry to say this but you didn't file your taxes correctly last year. I can resolve this for you for a small compensation, say, that box right there? Hand it over and all the problems will go away.

Above thread is a brand/flame war thread that only recommends amd hardware in the OP. Resume using this thread.

>>107960562
If you do theming you have to go balls and sacrifice what needs to be or you're a poser. I don't make the rules, sorry.

>>107960538
Shut up Yurine.

>>107960564
I am not a American anon, one of the reasons I had to wait for a month, international shipping.

>>107960600
Motherfucker.

>>107960605
thread's so right it has to be spammed 3+ times obviously

>>107960561
It’s a tale as old as time. All the way back to the first instances of DLC. Now gamers clamor for DLC from their favorite games. At this rate, a decade from now they’ll be fully complacent with their game streaming services. A sad future but an inevitable one.

I always look at the OP and see if it shows all 3 major GPU brands and both CPU brands. That's the real thread.

Ok why is everyone panic buying OLEDs now did I miss something

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I bought this 4tb NVMe on November 17th for $261. Just because I might need some basic storage and I knew prices were gonna climb. It's now $345. But, look closer- they say "Save $205". Meaning it's about to go up to $550. Holy shit.

>>107960534
My GPU is an MSI 5070 Ti Gaming Trio.
Per google it appears I have a normal copper heatsink with 5 heat pipes.
I would've gotten the Vanguard but even a month ago (just over) it was 200-300 more than the model I got (if I cared that much I would've spent even more and gotten the Noctua 5080 instead)

>>107960676
Because everything else is going up in price and people are panic-buying anything PC-related now?

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>>107960538
YURINE IS FLAT

>>107960682
Does that DRAM?
tempted to grab that since I found an old best buy gift card

I like watching the fake thread maker have a meltie lol

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>14900k
>yesterday cores 5, 6, and 7 start to be in near constant use
>spikes from 0 to 100 every second or so
>wallpaper engine starts stuttering
>framerate starting to drop in games
I'm fucked, aren't I?
Should I ride it into the ground? Do I need to worry about damaging the motherboard? Or anything else for that matter I guess?

>>107960695
I don't think so... it's a very basic NVMe. But, I wouldn't buy it at $345, let alone $550.

>>107960705
Yeah, sounds like I'm waiting until next Thanksgiving to find another NVME or hope the bubble starts popping by then

>>107960704
Did you update your bios for the latest Intel microcode?

>>107960721
Yeah, but only recently.

>>107960695
no, p310/510 have no dram cache. that's why they're still cheaper than the others

So I just bought a 9800x3d and heard about the issue
Are there reports about this happening on gigabyte mobos?

>>107960682
You paid too much, even back then. That P310 is really garbage-tier QLC honestly.

>>107960695
No: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/crucial-p310
It's a QLC and DRAM-less gen4 drive. Just about the worst possible quality available. Avoid at any price, much less $300+ USD.

>>107960748
>the issue
Care to elaborate? Micro stuttering? Those burned up sockets?

The micro stutters are almost always from frame rate monitoring software and it's pretty much ASRock boards that are burning. I'm running a Gigabyte X870E for the last year and have not had either problem.

>>107960748
I think it’s just ASUS boards at the moment, but as usual it has to do with the way the board’s EXPO/DOCP profile is aggressively tuned. If you just don’t enable it in the bios you’ll have nothing to worry about, but you won’t be running your memory at its advertised speed, which isn’t the end of the world.

>>107960765
it catching fire or some shit and exploding
No apparently with Asus and assrock they just burn out, and apparently its also happening to others?
I just dont want to end up plugging this new build in and instantly breaking it and losing all my fucking money

>>107960776
I never looked into those bios boosting things, not even on my current board, so if I just dont touch those itll be fine?
I was planning on undervolting my cpu this time because of temps, so im not sure if that plan kinda falls apart because of this, never tried undervolting anything

>>107960788
just make sure your BIOS is up to date and your vsoc voltage is like 1.2v or less and you should be fine

>>107960788
If it makes you feel any better I’ve been running a 9800x3d in an ASUS board for months now with no issues, even with the EXPO profile enabled. I think it’s just one of those things where a couple of cases popped up on Reddit and now people are blowing it up into a huge thing.
You can just leave it off as a safety measure and not worry about it.

>>107960734
Shit.

>>107960744
>>107960757
Double shit. No wonder it's cheap.
Yeah, I should've just taken the debt for a fourth NVME.

>>107960734
Actually ogre, RMA that shit

>>107960805
I hope so
I guess im paranoid since I spent so much on finally leaving am4, mostly just so I can play code vein 2 without it shitting itself
I needed to make that leap for a while now but this is the game that kinda lit the fire under my ass and im kinda worried about bricking it day 1 now

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>>107960691

Holy fuck he's having a meltie. I saw both and only had to check the GPU section of the OP.

so basically you still pay more and get less with nvidia on linux. i told you niggers.
https://youtu.be/u8Xyx2L4Nlg?t=397

>>107960887
Who is that meth addict?

>>107960890
the creator of linux. so lower your tone.

>>107960887
haven't watched that one yet because it's one hour long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URbW3j_GYKg

>>107960890
>>107960894
Yeah, that's Sebastian Linux, of Linux Tech Tips. Show some respect.

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>>107960887
Yep, don't regret my 9070XT for 630 bucks.
But novideo wasn't that bad by the end, but I had a 3060Ti which can use the newer nvidia drivers, anything older than Turing is doomed on Linux.

I just build a system out of spare parts with the 3060Ti and my old Ryzen 2700 and I am using it as a HTPC on my living room

>>107959850
So come back and post pics of your install when you're done. Ignore the haters.

>>107960972
Damn that's a good price
9070xts start at 760 in my cunt

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>>107959144
no, this thread has the real OP. Your linked thread is the AMD faggot.

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>>107960884
Does he really live at home?

AMD related, can someone explain to me the whole RNA4 thing and some cards not getting support? Are they good cards or bad cards? I don't know much about AMD GPUs

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>>107960982
It was a prime deal, I just activated the prime trial for a month and got it.

IS THE 9100 PRO ANY GOOD?

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>>107960245
>Anyone tried out MX-7 yet?
Yes.

>is it easier to spread than MX-6?
Not really. It sticks less to the ihs, if that makes sense. Sort of blobby in texture.

>>107959041
Just look at the sticky and buy one of that:
>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090

>put in new gpu
>well, since the case is already open, why not remove all the dust and re-paste my cpu
>pc had been off for 2mins
>don't even pull that hard on cpu cooler, just try to unseat it carefully while paste is still hot
>rips out the fucking cpu while the lever is down
>whatever
>re-paste
>works fine
how do people manage to bend pins

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>>107960538
One red devil is different from the rest

>>107961018
it genuinely boggles my mind why anyone would ever use paste over ptm LOL!!!! on a integrated heat spreader no less

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>>107961028
they made that "mistake" more than once. which points to being based.

>>107961017
not as good at the WD

>>107961034
It was a free sample that came with my LF III Pro 360. Typically German beancounter design: the sample was exactly the amount you saw in the pic above.

>it worked well enough.

>>107960470
there is a home server general.
but if you intend to use this PC as a PC with gaming, good server PC's are bad gaming PC's, and your requirements don't require home server CPU / mobo.
The only thing that I know people use servers for, is LLM AI server (which doesn't need a xeon/epyc mobo because inference doesn't need pcie bandwidth, BUT the mobo is a fraction of the cost of a 5090 so why not), and storing files (which a n100 from aliexpress could do, lower power = cheaper, you want something that doesn't idle with lots of watts).
By the way, USB4 slots work as nvme pcie gen 3 drives if you buy an $50~ adapter (maiwo is the one brand that supports usb4, I don't know if anything better is out). Note that just because it's ~3000MB/s, doesn't mean big copies are slow if you have a SSD that can sustain write speeds for a long time, since some SSD's will not hold their advertised top speeds for long (you can see pcpartpicker benchmarks sometimes).
Intel and AMD have basically the same IO. Intel is very slightly better in IO (you will not hit the bottleneck, it doesn't matter), but AMD is better in terms of gaming because the 9800x3d is just better for a few console port benchmark games.
If you want the fastest network connection imaginable, you could get one of those Nvidia DGX spark pc's (no windows however). It's really stupid to buy it for not AI, but the connector is 200GBe, which is pretty fast. But to connect it to a normal PC, you need a pcie adapter that costs $1000+.

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>>107961028
>>107961035
they even sold a few before removing it fully

>moving 8tb of files between hard drives during an ice storm not connected to a UPS
surely this little maneuver won’t end in disaster

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>have to clean pic related and what it's attached to
>last known cleaning is 2024
Out to the woodshed it is.

>>107960536
You bought one of the hottest gen5 drives
F

>>107961076
i just copy and delete after it's done (usally forget to delete by the time it is done)

>>107961085
Meh, it has a heatsink

>>107960682
>>107960695
I wouldn't buy this one. It's on sale everywhere but the quality is not great. Any mid-tier SSD (Acer, pny, lexar, wdblue, patriot, team) would be a better choice

>>107960887
this video was lazy as shit compared to >>107960902

>>107961101
won't do much above a hot gpu. even ram gets hot if the gpu gets hot and can lead to micro stutters.
>>107961109
one guy upload every day and the other every few weeks or so.

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>>107961109

>>107961114
>and can lead to micro stutters.
Yeah now you are just talking out of your ass.

>>107961122
been verified by wendel from level 1 tech. ddr5 is sensitive what can i say. also leads to "random" crashes.

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>>107960808
>>107960815
Fuuuuck. Knew I should've went with AMD at the time...

>>107961129
I thought you were talking about the SSD not the RAM, from what I have read SSD NAND actually likes being hot, not too hot obviously but putting a water cooler on your NVME might actually hurt performance.

>>107960887
This might be the most useless video he's made

The answer was AMD

It didn't matter what distro

And Nvidia and Intel didn't just work and had to get a bunch of extra steps to get the fucking things to work while AMD just worked

It was totally pointless full of obvious info everyone already knows

>>107961119
Tech reviewers just exist to make you feel good about whatever you bought.

>>107961137
>likes being hot
who gives a shit about speed when your drive fails.

>>107961145
I don't need a pep talk. I bought a 5090.

>>107961143
>It was totally pointless full of obvious info everyone already knows
not really. retards in this thread say nvidia works just fine and that you don't lose any performance. if your nvidia gpu is now one tier lower it just means you can buy an even cheaper amd gpu to get the same performance + a better linux desktop experience.

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>>107960902
>his 13900k died
13th gen bros not like this please...
https://youtu.be/URbW3j_GYKg?t=328

>>107960704
5 and 6 are your preferred 6ghz cores
the OS puts anything hogging CPU on those first
>>107961143
it's obvious, if you've used both

>>107961143
the only thing he proved is that linux doesnt just work. all the gpus had issues out of the box that required manual config. you can hate on windows all you want but even windows update will still give you a working driver.

>>107961158
>>107961143
>>107960902
>>107961109
Both Linus and dankpods used the shittiest distros possible, dankpods was even running NVK and llvmpipe(software rendering) in some games for some reason.

This is why distros really need leave this nvidia image/ISO build behind and work on auto detecting tools at install like CachyOS, if dankpods and Linus had used CachyOS the results would have been better for nvidia.

>>107961189
nah it's just nvidias final move from a closed driver to a somewhat open driver that fucked them over here. we are in the transition period currently for them. lts works like that. like running 12th gen on windows 10. not gonna work fine.

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Howdy y'all. I'm looking to build my 1st and final PC to last me through the upcoming tech apocalypse. I expect prices to get higher and remain high for the unforeseeable future so I want to go all out rn in hopes this PC will last me the next 7-10 years. I mainly emulate PS3 games and below and do video editing for fun such as making anime AMVs, HMVs, and PMVs. I know this build might be overkill but I dont want to eat ze bugs and be happy owning nothing.

BUILD LINK: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hWLYPJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler
MOTHERBOARD: MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
MEMORY: Corsair Vengeance 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
STORAGE: WD_BLACK SN850X 4TB NVMe SSD
STORAGE: WD_BLACK SN850X 4TB NVMe SSD
STORAGE: Western Digital WD Red Pro 26 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
STORAGE: Western Digital WD Red Pro 26 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: MSI GAMING TRIO OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card
CASE: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL ATX Full Tower Case
PSU: Lian Li EDGE 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
OS: WINDOWS 10 PRO

I already own a few of the parts such as the 5070 ti, the 96 gb of RAM, and SSD. I mainly need help with the motherboard and PSU. Is this a good motherboard in terms of reliability and number of usb ports? And will this PSU connect to multiple HDDS? Someone told me the PSU might not.

Also, should I buy additional fans for better cooling? I head DDR5 memory runs hots and would benefit from jerry rigging a minicooler on it. But that sounds like broscience to me.

Help me /pcbg/. Your my only hope.

>>107961207
when did you get the ram and for how much? I'm looking to make a similar build as you.

I daily drive windows but I still don't understand braindead YouTubers. I somehow was managing running slackware as a novice Linux user in 2009 while in my 20s on various testbeds while working as an intern for a major hard drive company. Do these people actively delete or fuck with their dependencies? This is why you run a live environment first to test and try out things, and make sure (if you're a novice/new) no other storage is attached when you're running the environment (unless you don't mind fixing with it).

Linux reminds me of woodworking. You don't hand someone new a power tool until they master the chisel and file and sandpaper.

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>>107961231
>Do these people actively delete or fuck with their dependencies?

>>107961207
Why are you getting the X670E over X870E?
I almost have this exact same build that I'm starting too.
Also, you should either check if you can install a Noctua U14S or D15S in that case. Double check Noctua's website for mobo and RAM compatibility. Otherwise you should be running a push pull with an Sx2 PP fan set so it doesn't harmonize.

https://mobomaps.com/
https://www.noctua.at/en/products/nh-d15s-chromax-black

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>>107961207
>96gb ram
welcome to the club brother
>I head DDR5 memory runs hots and would benefit from jerry rigging a minicooler on it.
Generally more of a concern with liquid cooling, your U12A should be sufficient airflow for the memory, but yeah they do make dedicated ram fans or you can use zip ties to strap a fan that blows directly onto the memory. In practice it really isn't going to matter unless you like running P95 Large FFTs all the time and/or your pc is a hotbox with no airflow. You've got an O11 Dynamic though, assuming you've kitted out all the fan slots, it's going to be cold as a cucumber in there anyway.
>And will this PSU connect to multiple HDDS?
I checked that power supply's pin-out and i see SATA power so there should be included cables for SATA power. Multiple even, and you'll only need one for two hdds.

Good luck in the pc apocalypse, if your build doesn't cut it, mine won't either.

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>>107960687
>My GPU is an MSI 5070 Ti Gaming Trio.
I have the same gpu as you except it's a 5080. I believe the cooler and even the pcb is identical between these models. You should have a traditional cold plate on that card, which means orientation means fuck-all. Vertical mount it all day.

The Vanguard would have been a vapor chamber which may have been suboptimal vertical.

For a riser you may as well go with Gen 4, it'll be cheaper and potentially more reliable and there's no functional difference this gen between 4 and 5 performance-wise. I don't even know if gen 5 risers exist atm.
>>107960701
I just got back from watching the climber man climb the building, glad to see nicotroon got btfo by based mods again.

>>107961207
>CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler
>CASE: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL ATX Full Tower Case

that's one of the biggest cases. it's gigantic. why are you sticking a tiny ass single tower aircooler in there
that case comes with zero fans btw and you stick like 12+ in there

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>>107959077

Then the old real thread died a natural death, and the other thred died.

It is a truth that seems self evident: the mods of /g/ prefer a more patrician and market-driven /pcbg/.

>i'm always imagining some fursuit-wearing jannie actually doing all the shitposting for keks

>>107961294
>For a riser you may as well go with Gen 4
Gen 5 do as it was default on Amazon
Any good companies or brands to advocate? This is new territory for me.

>>107961310
Okay TBF I'm out of date on risers so I would have expected it to be a lot more expensive than gen 4 for dubious benefit. It's probably fine whatever you got. Assuming you checked reviews o algo

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>>107961275
sup ram chads

>>107961319
Didn't grab anything yet. Cmon Konata I was expecting you to save me this time :(

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>>107959077
>May the gods bless OP.

By the gods indeed! Long live /pcbg/!

>I'll see myself out, later /faggots/.

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>>107961356
idk this looks good to me mang
https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-Vertical-Graphics-Usable-RTX5090/dp/B0FJYLM8G8

i just use the nzxt mount+riser cause it was made for my case. Try not to crimp the shit out of the ribbon when installing it.

>>107960536
this was the last one I could find at reasonable price, the WD gen5 was literally double its price

>>107961371
That's what I was looking at. Another 1 star review said :
>
I purchased a different 5.0 riser cable made by a very well known PC case manufacturer and it works beautifully with no other changes to BIOS or operating system
I wish that person just said what company instead of being all mysterious.

>>107961394
your mobo better have a good heatsink armor for that gen5 stick

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>>107960748
people thought it was primarily an ASROCK issue as they had the most publicised failures, but if you look at the reports other brands including Asus actually reported failures so it might be something to do with running non-stock settings on the CPU

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>>107961418
Man 280 is statistically insignificant it shouldn't influence anyone's buying decision
don't avoid the 9800x3d because of this
avoid it because the 7800x3d offers 92% of the performance for like 75% of the price

>>107961406
Or smart people run Gen 5 at PCIE 4 which will lower the temps
Unless you're a professional video editor Gen 5 is just not being utilized by a normal consumer

>>107961418
prime and 7800x3d bros won. republic of gay(m)ers scum lost again.

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>>107961406
I was planning to get one of the new Asus Neo boards in white depending on the price, probably the Strix since Asus shit is priced to the moon. The top slot has a beefy heatsink but the bottom slots run the meme giant panel "heatsink" thing
>>107961428
I was looking for a Gen4 but since I only started looking this month after destroying my wallet buying RAM and a GPU, all the prices had already exploded and Gen4s were the same price as Gen5. I don't actually need Gen5 speeds

I find it strange that in my online shops of choice all the normal cases are relatively expensive (especially if they're the big name imports like Fractal) but all the cheap cases including small-brand ones are fishtanks. Guess large flat panels of glass have to be cheap considering it's just stir-fry sand.

>>107959041

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

how important is pulsar going to be? I have a 5070Ti
I was also wondering, 4k or 1440p? I've been thinking about 4k due to it perhaps being more future proof and especially a mini-LED one, but not sure

>>107961449
>I've been thinking about 4k due to it perhaps being more future proof
other way around
trying to drive 4k will force you to upgrade sooner
1440p is the sweet spot
even 10 yrs from now things will be made for 1080p so dont worry about the actual resolution getting phased out

>>107961440
the top slot should have enough thermal mass for 10W ssds like the 9100 pro

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>>107961226
I got the RAM late last year for about $900. Felt like I was getting ripped off but glad I bit the bullet.

>>107961258
I'm getting the x670E because it has wifi 6 which only Windows 10 can support. Refuse to upgrade to windows 11 for the x870E

>>107961275
How do I kit out the fan slots for optimal cooling? im a retard with lots of money and passion. Thx dude! We will survive WW3 with our builds.

>>107961300
Have any recommendations for a better CPU fan and coolers for the case?

>>107961453
but isn't 4k much better than 1440p? I have a 1080p now, just got the 5070Ti a few months ago but I guess even it is too shit to run 4k lmao

>>107961449
do you prefer quality or performance

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>>107961461
>How do I kit out the fan slots for optimal cooling?
you water cool your cpu to free up the socket area and then mount a 120mm fan to blow at the ram slots

>>107961418
So GA and MSI are safe, nice.

>>107961469
4k is 75% more pixels than 1440p. 1080p to 1440p is only 28%. Just to put into perspective how much your GPU has to crunch.

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>>107961461
Lian Li Hydroshift II 360
14 Lian Li Unifans

>>107961472
what does that mean? you mean refresh rate?
I don't really play competitive FPS and the mini-LEDs seem to have dual mode anyway with 1080p

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>>107961461
>How do I kit out the fan slots for optimal cooling? im a retard with lots of money and passion. Thx dude! We will survive WW3 with our builds.
idk about the 011d "specifically", but im using one of the 849043785 clones of that exact case many other companies have made since it was such a successful design so i know the same wisdom should apply. You'll want three intakes on the side; it's best to put a radiator here if you have one. Three intakes on the bottom feed cool air directly to your gpu so that's a no-brainer. Three exhausts on top, and one rear exhaust, all drawing hot air away from cpu/gpu. You'll have a torrential amount of air flowing through keeping the inside of the case from ever getting hot, as well as good positive pressure..

Lots of these are optional but if you want to go full tilt that's how you do it. You could realistically forego the side intake and top exhaust entirely, especially since you're on air cooling.

>>107961488
yeah sure but on the other hand you have DLSS and dynamic frame generation
if the GPU is performant enough to saturate 1440p, then doesn't it kind of go to waste in some sense (and even more with a gpu upgrade, though I'm not doing that for a years)

>>107961494
4k means you get better quality but now your latency is like 12.5ms. Versus 1440p where you its less quality than 4k but now your latency is 7.4ms. Almost 60% increase.

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I should join costco
They seem to have the best deals on high end monitors

>>107961482
Wouldnt say theyre safe, the "survey" was on an ASROCK subreddit so its biased. I'd assume they have issues with all motherboards

>>107961461
I don't care about wifi 7 as I have wired. its a non issue for me.

>>107961469
Diminishing returns in terms of pixel density over 1440p (relative to 1440p vs 1080p), but 32" 4K means the pixels are basically visually undetectable. You can still get good antialiasing with low blur on a 1440p monitor by using 4K DLDSR and DLSS in conjunction. 4K is essentially the best you need on desktop unless you have hawk vision.

With a 5070 Ti, you can run 4K full res in anything that doesn't have DLSS, and DLSS Quality in any games that do, which is essentially indistinguishable from 4K DLAA, which is better than 4K TAA.

>>107961453
>trying to drive 4k will force you to upgrade sooner
4K is no different from 1080p in terms of performance requirements.

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This case was an absolute fucking disaster to work in. But, I got the build together for my sister's kids.

>>107959041
>Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
>two other brand boards
at what point do we blame AMD for faulty processors?

>>107961449
240 Hz 32" 4K OLED
Pulsar is the only reason not to go for the above, and then only if you want to mitigate sample and hold phenomena above all else

>>107961536
once people stop believing AMD is their friend

>>107961433
Post benchmark scores ill fite u irl

>>107961551
dnf don't count so i won by default.

>>107961548
AMD will still be their fren even if they sleep with their wives

>>107961532
surprised that case even fit an atx board
looks tiny
actually it reminds of those optiplex minitowers size wise

Fearmonger fags thinking 0.001 hearsay is an epidemic

>>107961461
>I got the RAM late last year for about $900
fuggg.96g of ddr5-6000 cl30 is unobtainium here, I can barely find listings for it. Shit costs more than my cpu and gpu combined

>>107961561
I have 8 days of uptime and have run over 50 benchmark runs in that time.

Get rekt.

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>>107961609
>50 benchmark runs in that time
doesn't sound sad at all. bragging about it like that i mean.

what voltages should ddr5 be running at in xmp

>>107961619
1.35-1.45v for hynix a-die and hynix m-die
1.2-1.3v for micron rev a/g
1.3-1.35v for samsung b-die

>>107961614
You're the one falsely accusing me of instability; no need to get all butthurt because you're demonstrably wrong.

>>107961551
rule 2 of pcbg is to ignore poorfags

>>107961639
I'm mostly just fuckin with him anyway, he's clearly just looking for (you)s with that kind of bait in the first place.

>>107961635
you replied to me first >>107961551
>Post benchmark scores ill fite u irl
>>107961609
>I have 8 days of uptime and have run over 50 benchmark runs in that time.
>>107961614
>doesn't sound sad at all. bragging about it like that i mean.

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wow

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where were you when nandpocalypse started

>>107961659
no refunds

>>107961665
at home. raping nicotroon.

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>>107961665
I tried to warn them
when old stock runs out
it's all going up
and sandisk changed all these drives too so once they're gone they're gone for good no restock is coming

>>107961659
tacky, real masterpieces fill the insides with clay or metal bolts to make it feel heavy and "premium"

>>107961673
I wish I was around for your warnings.

>>107961665
can't believe I returned a 990 thinking I overspent and didn't need a fourth NVME
shiet

Bubble needs to pop in 2-3 months for there to be a god
I'm tired of never ending COVID nightmare

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I got an used 5600x3D, how hot does these things get?
I ask cuz I have +6 years old Contac Silent 12. I can use air on the fin to make them good as new but I am sure the fan already passed his 40,000 hours lifetime.
Does TL sell replacement fans or can I just buy a same sized fan fron other brand and put it there?

>>107961665
N-n-non 3d Nand SATA i--is-is GOOD ENOUGH(cope)!

>>107961665
you don't need a mid-tier ssd

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>>107961665
Buy the 4TB instead then, it's $100 cheaper

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>nvidia on linux be like
retards still pretend like it's all fine. that it "works".

>>107961711
User error, 100%

>>107961728
using nvidia on linux is an user error. i give you that.

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was this a dumb purchase in 2016

>>107961734
i just bought a rx 480 because i like how it looks and because i used to have one.

>>107961731
Do you really want me to download CP77 on my HTPC >>107960972 and prove you wrong?

>>107961734
Not really that's about right.

>>107961740
based

>>107961742
you gotta test it like >>107960902 did.

>>107961687
Fan frames are standardized. As long as the metal clips fit then it fits.

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>>107961740
i'm tempted to do this with the GT 420 because funny number

>>107961758
Test it with user error included? lol no
Again I went with AMD because it is simply better on Linux but that dankpods video was simply unfair and very retarded.

>>107961762
got it. I have been meaning to add fans to the case and there are only bundles available here so I can just swap it with a left over fan.

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>>107961748
it's also possibly broken since it crashes under high load but that only made it cheaper to buy.
>>107961764
it is indeed a funny number

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QD-OLED

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>>107961764
heh, that is a funny number
I should pick up a gainward phantom just for the A E S T H E T I C S

>>107961765
>dankpods video was simply unfair and very retarded
just the average experience with nvidia on linux. thanks to their stupid drivers and shit support for old gpus.

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Speaking of old gpus, what was your first gpu?
>picrel
>bought to put in my families shitty prebuilt hp desktop from walmart purely to play the runescape hd update

>>107961687
I have 5700x3d and it runs pretty hot under heavy load (90c prime95). I have a 120mm tower cooler with 4x8mm heatpipes and push pull fans.

>>107961802
Radeon 9250

>>107961784
wow, that's a pretty card

>>107961802
rx 480 from xfx in the reference design before the mining boom hit. first gpu i bought myself and sold for some reason.

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>>107961802
8800GTS
I didn't have a digital camera at the time, so I scanned it.

>>107961802
it was some SiS GPU that was absolute dogshit but it has been such a long time ago that I don't remember which one specifically

>>107959041
What GPU should I buy for MPV with ArtCNN_C4F32/KrigBilateral? (4K60) I had an old PC lying around and decided to turn it into a HTPC and upgraded the 5820K to an E5-1650V4, but I don't think the GTX 970 is going to cut it anymore. I was thinking about the Intel Arc B580 12GB but I'm not sure.

https://www.displayninja.com/new-monitors/

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>>107961853
>HTPC and upgraded the 5820K to an E5-1650V4

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>>107961866
>>HTPC and upgraded the 5820K to an E5-1650V4

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>>107961877
i think you got other problems to worry about.

>>107961866
I mean it was essentially a free 15% increase in performance for just $20, without needing to buy a new motherboard.

>>107961480
anon where were you the other week when I was looking for a similar solution, thats exactly what I need to do. Do you find that the RAM fan mount causes the AIO fan to make extra noise?

>except for the white and glowie. i'm /minimalistmaxxing/ over here.

>>107961624
muh shitty 64gb g-skill samsung RAMpocalypse desperation buy. I didn't even bother to try and OC it.

is idling 63-65C normal for a 9950x3d?
I'm using a noctua nh-u12a air cooler I haven't messed with any setting and used mx-6 paste

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>>107961802
Pic related, the ATI Small Wonder. Later I got an ATI VGA Wonder XL.

>>107962001
not sure but I feel like a single tower air cooler might be struggling with that CPU

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replacing my 5 year old pc tomorrow with this thing, here's to another 5 years of not having to do this shit

>>107962001
Can't help you if you don't post case and fan setup.

>>107962087
Two motherboards?

>>107962087
Wait, there's two motherboards

>>107962099
>>107962098
he bought the ASUS one, heard about the explosions and then bought another one

>>107962098
>>107962099
>>107962110
bingo, I was just doing a cookie cutter asus prime build but then I heard that the motherboard is a piece of shit so I bought the rog strix, just haven't gotten the time to return it yet

>>107961802
Pretty neat, those art boxes had SOVL, wonder why they don’t do these types of things anymore

>>107962044
I've seen review showing it doing comparable to duel towers setup albeit 3-5 degrees hotter on a 13900k
>>107962093
wasn't in a pc case yet shipping got delayed for it I got impatient and wanted to make sure everything ran OK and had no problems so I set it up on my desk

I wish I didn't listen to you guys and bought the ASUS TUF 5070ti instead of Prime or any other OC card. The Prime just looks so lame and feels cheap.

>>107962152
are you using it in your pc or are you holding it in your hands all the time? maybe just user error.

>>107962087
>here's to another 5 years of not having to do this shit
Don't worry, you won't be able to do it again in another 5 years lmao.
How much did you spend? And do you need all the cologne?

>hurr durr you won't see it hurrrrrrrrr
Shut the fuck up retard before I come and gape your asshole into a bloody mess. No (You) for you, and don't reply to me either, faggot.

>>107962162
cry about it. not my problem.

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What do you guys think would best he best fan setup for the case?

Thanks for the (You). :)

>>107962174
a better pc case would be best

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anyone know where i can buy this big heatsink? i only see small vram ones when i search

>>107962174
fan orientation is a myth, it makes no difference. just put em in there

>>107962162
n-no anon don’t do that… please!!!

>>107961802
whatever came in my family computer was junk and shitting itself trying to play 'black and white' back when that first came out. was in a gamestop with my mom and somehow managed to whine enough to get her to buy some hercules 3d prophet kyro 2 thing based on a review i'd recently read in computer gaming world magazine
better times i tell you what

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>>107961820
ideally I'd like the 980 but they're rare as now, Gainward stopped doing the original phantom for 10 series and brought it back for the 20 series but the A E S T H E T I C was gone in favor of a conventional 3 fans mounted in front and vertical fin design

Seriously this card looks so fucking lame. Fuck it's awful. And now I'm stuck with it's gay ass.

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>>107962218
see, the 2080 phantom... yucky.

i feel sorry for that gpu. it has to be arround some faggot who is touching it all the time instead of actually using it.

>>107962226
Stop complaining like a woman and do something about it pussy

>>107962158
Slightly under $2500 before tax, I believe in CXMT and whatever that other chinese dram semiconductor company was will catch up and save the consumer market in the next 3 years.

>And do you need all the cologne?
I'm actually getting rid of 3 of them and just replacing it with 2 more. My boss likes fragrances so we just make small talk about it and I can avoid discussing work shit with him and he doesn't care to talk about work shit with me. It helps me cruise being lazy and doing the bare minimum.

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>this thing in my taskbar staring at me all day. >none of the fixes have any effect on me.

5850X3D february

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>>107962248
i ain't rebooting yet

>>107962248
unplug computer

>>107962119
>returning asus prime
bullet dodged. have fun

Like holy fuck it's bad. No one should listen to you niggas. I probably should have gone with the 9070xt instead too.

>>107962258
yeah you should have, why would you listen to the shills in this thread?

>>107962246
Not bad, not bad. Hope it all goes well with the build.

Is there a market for used cologne? I guess it's not really used and more like there's just not as much.
>My boss likes fragrances
Sounds weird, but whatever helps you keep the job and such. Just don't get molested.

I've been saying the 9070 xt is the best card launched after the 3060 12gb, you fell for the 5070ti because you wanted to throw money away

>>107962252
i >>107962248 did and am back to my /shitposting/. Was quick, with one full extra warm boot.

>>107962158
how much did you pay for the p510 and ram? were you early or are you late
genuinely considering just getting a worse no-dram ssd and moving OS over later
>>107962265
anon's boss makes a habit of deeply inhaling their employees' fragrances

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-cancels-rtx-50-orders-tells-buyers-to-reorder-after-system-error-as-prices-go-up
ayy lmao

>>107962271
payup niggers

>>107962271
You know it's bad when Zotac starts shitting on people.

>>107962276
I don't remember a time when Zotac didn't shit on it's customers

>>107962271
>trying to pull the same stunts as corsair
lmao

>>107962267
Idk anon, having to brute force 40-50% more power just to match the 5070ti in performance seems wasteful

>>107962265
Thanks, I'm fairly confident since I built my current build also so it's not my first rodeo. I'll post completed update later on if my back allows me. It'll look like shit I don't care for cable management

>>107962270
Late, I bought everything pretty much last week or so. I got the ssd for $130 and the ram for $440 since it was open box

>>107960561
the reddit thread about crucial exiting the market was astounding. people saying they'd never buy from them again in response to news of not being sold to

>>107962328
What do you plan to play on it?

>>107962087
i hate it when ram makers leave out the xmp timings and voltage on the front of the box. That's like 2/3rds of the most important info when shopping for xmp ram...

I can't decide on a case. Looking at mid towers. Sometimes I want one of those fishtank ones but probably too big for my space and some of them get pricey.

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Genuine pc building newfag here. I’ve only ever bought prebuilts before and I’m wanting to make my first pc. I have basically no money currently because I just started working and I’m in the process of saving up. How long will I have to wait until prices of components lower?

>>107961665
Prices already stabilized on RAM, doubt NAND will get much worse.

>>107962342
It's CL38, didn't matter to me, I just needed some cheap 64gb ddr5. It's not like I can be picky anymore, like a year ago I remember seeing this same set of tforce 64gb ram in a bundle with a 2tb gen4 ssd for $280 on amazon.

>>107962336
i regularly play dota2 and rivals, recently I've been going through old singleplayer games on steam since I bought a shitton during black friday, currently playing through final fantasy tactics ivalice chronicles. Looking forward to the release of maplestory classic later this year. I don't really care much about playing the triple As

>>107962364
at least 6 months

>>107962364
1 year probably

>>107962364
never, the dream is dead. only dread remains.

>>107962364
if we're lucky, end of the year

case are all shit now with their stupid glass, at least when it was acrylic you could cut it to put a fan on the sides, tempered glass can't be cut

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>>107962437
mine has great airflow thanks

>>107962439
Nice carpet.

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>>107961734
>gtx480 for $100 in 2016
absolutely dumb. got a 560ti for $180 in 2011. I'd imagine that would have been a mere $40 in 2016.

>>107962364
They aren't going down. (q2 2027, maaaaybe. 2028 more likely. that's being super optimistic though.)

>>107962439
i'd slap that orange tabby for giving that side eye

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>>107962471
flame point, like all cats, he's a smug little shit

>>107962488
cute peets

Is paying an extra 100€ worth it to go from 165hz to 240hz (4k OLED)? I feel like my old monitor is already buttery smooth with 160hz and I'm never hitting that 240 fps in triple a single player games anyways.

>>107962554
OLED is always worth it. I have AW2725Q.

>>107961207
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>>107961354
>yes hello i would like (2^5 + 2^6),000,000,000 bytes of RAM
pig disgusting number

>>107962579
get on with the times gramps, its the age of non-binarism

>>107962572
Sorry I meant the difference in refresh rates if both were OLEDs.

>>107962587
>non-binarism
fucking gay. the future is gay.

>>107962592
gay means happy so gay is good

>>107962599
spray the gay away with an ak

>>107962364
prices will stay high and eventually this will be seen as the new normal
in a few years you'll have people saying that because of inflation the prices they're paying are good by historic standards and post a cope chart

>>107962572
>OLED is always worth it
would you say OLED was worth it if it lead to COMMUNISM??

>>107962618
this won't be the new normal. once there is room for prices to drop, companies will naturally start to gradually undercut each-other in price until they fall back down to acceptable levels.

>>107962629
i only buy from china because i want to support americas adversary. they are no better than them. so they might as well fuck each other over for all i care.

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>>107962637
>americas adversary
kek rent free.
Yuropoor or turdie?

>>107962630
Ah just like what has happened with other goods oh wait

>>107962629
>lead to COMMUNISM
Good. A corrupt communist government would lead to massive pogroms and genocides which we desperately need in this booming population.

>>107962673
if they weren't you guys wouldn't always bitch about them. like who gives a shit about china.

>>107962589
Dude... refresh rates are a meme. Unless you play demanding multiplayer shooters, there is no need to go beyond 240hz, hell I would say even 120hz is sufficient. I mean my eyes can perceive the motion without any error.

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>>107962681
Thanks, what about curved monitors? I'm hesitating between the msi 321CUP and 321UP. Both 4k165hz QD-OLEDs

erm why is my desktop a subfolder of onedrive

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>>107962675
yes, graphics cards and power supplies came back down in price after the crypto boom died down. eggs are down. gas prices are down. toilet paper and hand sanitizer prices are back down after COVID. these things come and go, anon. stop being a doomer

>>107962715
because you are using a shit desktop os. user error.

>>107962707
Curved monitors have a special resolution which is not compatible with some applications and games that you might need. I would suggest you avoid them. There were also these reports that spoke of eye strain caused by curved screen, but I cannot guarantee anything about that as I have never used one myself. However I know for a fact that you have to go through screen resolution mods to setup your apps and it is not worth the trouble.

>>107962707
curved is only nice on ultra wide screens. flat is enough.

Somebody bake another thread

>>107962733
Curved monitors are actually easier on the eyes imo. I've using curved for around 8 years but for anything 27" or smaller, flat is fine. It's less strain on my eyes using my curved monitor at home on days I wfh vs the days I work in the office with 2 flat screens.