Ow the edge editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Snowsky Melody (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>107941033
Simgot EW300 HBB opinions?
>>107963205Who looked at edge and thought yeah that will be comfortable in my ears prototyped it, tried it, and decided wow this is uncomfortable in my ears, and then still went through to mass production?
>>107963205Kz won
>>107963836Hearing lost.
What IEMs should I get under $100 if I want a v-shaped frequency with good comfort? I know comfort is subjective, but at least something that people don't report hating to wear due to discomfort
I dont want hearing loss. What headset do you recommend?
>>107964344just keep reasonable volume and you'll be fine
Reasons to equalize your pos:1. Take full advantage of planar magic, cvj luki2. You can listen to Moondrop Stellaris and TRN ST73. Attain perfection on your PEQ'd $5 shitbud, why buy anything else?4. Fight back against chinks using Harm Man as acoustic weaponry5. Counter bright recordings by adjusting the brightness and darkness of your pos to comfort level.6. Free (You)s on /iemg/7. Serves as a foundation for other DSPs/VSTs, upsampling, convolution, etc. when increasing techs
Be sure to take care when boosting (or leaving alone) high frequencies or you'll be as deaf as Deafzo. Equalize responsibly.
>>107964425Yeah, he didn't reduce the most damaging part of the treble and now needs an amp to hear. Rip bozo.
Guys I have the Truthear Gate and I can't fit them properly in my ears because they are a little too big. What would you reccommend?
>>107964574bullets like final e500/tanch one/zero ultima or samsung EO-IA500
>>107964650>samsung EO-IA500
>>107964670should be in OP
>>107963251mogged by KZ
>>107964670with EQ i’m sure they’re good. Without? its gay.Also they have much less passive noise isolation. That’s one of the reason shartur fans cream themselves so much over it.
>>107963205>smooth nozzleswhy do chinks love it? the tips always fall off because they can slide
>>107964650I only looked up the Tanchjim One because they have the removable cable and from the reviews it seems like the tip end is THICK. That's the problem my ear canals are smol.
>>107963750>>107964967Once you realize expensive audio products are a humiliation ritual it all makes sense. I would pay $100 to see him >>107964415 go to a store and try paying for something with his phone.
>>107966302>he thinks aliexpress store items cost moneyzozzle
>>107966447It's not getting any better above that, bro. Totlzo can't even use his cable for more than 15 minutes, it's that fucking uncomfortable.
>>107964415>Counter bright recordings by adjusting the brightness and darkness of your pos to comfort level.>adjust EQ according to what you're listening toholy shit, son. this ain't it.
>>107963205>Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28So, these are no longer available.What's a good alternative? Must be>bullet-style>replaceable 3.5mm cable>under $40
HiBy R3 II 2025 is pretty nice if you just don't let HiBy OS index a database (it will crash constantly if indexed DB is enabled). So I'm just using the files view explicitly since my music is organized hierarchically by folders anyways.Pretty comfy to finally own a decent enough DAP and there's an ESS DAC inside this one which sounds sweet.
>>107967497I love how pocketable this whole setup is as well
>>107963205Dubai shit for the browns of /g/BBC shaped in your ear
>>107963205I want to buy Waner SG II but I'm torn apart between buying the USB C version or the 3.5mm version.Both my laptop and phone have shit DACs so buying USB C makes more sense to me since USB C IEMs have their own DACs and sound the same on every device.Are there any downsides to USB C besides power consumption?
>>107967472ROSESELSA Photon ProLETSHUOER SingerTWISTURA Sigma
>>107967555the only difference is the cable
>>107967519manlet detected
>>107967566>ROSESELSA Photon Pronot bullet-style, using C-cable>LETSHUOER Singer2.5mm cable with 3.5mm adapter, kinda annoying>TWISTURA Sigmaoutside my budget
You can get all the best KZ IEMs (Dawn, ED9 Pro, PR2, EDC Pro, Kunten, Decet) for free in 5 Saving Wednesdays. Aliexpress won.
>>107967472ED9 Pro
>>107967992>replaceable cableed9 pro shill, please read till the end next time
>>107967975Too bad nobody cares because it's kz.
what are the cheapest decent iems with anime girls on them?
>>107968007just mmcx mod your ed9 pro and ur gucci
>>107967472That's tough, but if you stretch the budget a little, there's a new bullet called GSound odeon pipe, warm signaturehttps://aliexpress.com/item/1005010635373940.htmlhttps://aliexpress.com/item/1005010786726950.html
>>107966499That's at least 5 boxes wtf, for a pair of fuckin grados
>>107968008cope. KZ is goated
what was that pos that was a tws but also has 2pin and can be used as wired?
>>107968395Thanks for that, I'll consider theseMight be able to get them with Ali coins
>>107968496nvm, found it. it's mmcx, not 2pin.
>>107966697This is why you'll never have techs.
>>107968942you don't even know what you're saying. setting eq because you think the track is too bright or warm just makes its already shit mix even worse. you can't eek out techs like that. (You) should do it anyway. take the time to go track by track and make a whole new eq profile based on it. would be amusing just to see what you think is happening
>>107969168i already have profiles for music genres retard
if you have an eq for each pos, you don't like the posif you have an eq for each genre, you don't like the gneresif you have an eq for each song, you don't like the songs
>>107969279nta but, how's that worming your way out of the situation? you're still coming up with eq profiles based on the audio itself. lol
>>107968409>t. PR2 deafness blaster enjoyer
>>1079695241. you don't own one2. you never heard one3. I accept your concession4. profit???
>>107969551You are still deaf.
>>107969559you're still schizo
>>107969579A schizo with perfect hearing.
>>107969588concession after concession. post your most used pos or keep coping.
i hear note body as blur, sustain as smear, saturation as congestion and cohesion as loss of separation. is there an iem for me out there? budget 2-5 dollars
>>107969604That wont bring your hearing back.
>>107969714calling everybody that has better shit than you deaf isn't really helping you, fucktard. there's a word for that.
>>107969846You don't have better shit than anyone.
>>107969874you're ashamed of what you have, so keep coping. has to be the fifth time now I've had to accept your lousy concessions.
>>107969882You should be ashamed to be so deaf.
>>107969913you have zero basis to make those statements. shittiest/weakest gate-keeping that has to exist in the audio world is what comes straight from you. congrats, you contribute nothing
>>107969933The basis is you're deaf.
>>107969360This but unironically and less bitchy.>>107969404seethe>>107969524cope>>107969559dilate>>107969588have sex>>107969874Most raped kikeslave award.Anyway, my PR2 is PEQ'd to perfection. Why buy anything else?
>>107969979
>>107969979>PR2 owner yelling at PR2 ownerssome of you anons really make mole hills out of your subjective experience. you consistently fail to see how you're mostly using your gear wrong, also, and it's actually pretty funny. I mean lookit, you spend all that on the Cayin, for example. why are you still too retarded to get the correct cable for your pos?? 2 different types of 2-pins exist you short sighted fuck.what am I missing here, besides my hearing obv
>>107970036He is deaf, go easy on him.
>>107970038and you're on crack constantly refreshing the page ready to pounce. you even capable of having a conversation or do you actually get dopamine hits from starting dumpster fires everywhere
>>107970050
>>107970036I know that. I just don't want to spend $0 on another Kbear ST12. Retard.
>>107970069Do you also know how deaf you are?
>>107970071Work on your first argument before you move onto another retarded rant sweetie.
>>107970077What argument?
>>107970069it's just a cable. what......YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT???
>>107970088Nope, he just spent a few hundred on hearing aids.
>>107970092>BA timbre, avoid
>>107970036there's four - flushed, recessed, qdc and nx7
Upscaled version of EDC Pro?
>>107970240gk kunten is the spiritual successor
>>107970102how is BA timbre real if our drivers aren't real
>>107970088I can afford this. It wouldn't give me as many (You)s though.
>>107969588You got exposed for not even hearing your amp's noise by SBAF of all places.
>>107969979>PEQ'd to perfection>look inside>two shelf filters>>107969360EQing pos is fine because no pos exists that perfectly matches your anatomy out of the box and liking pos is in fact a skill issue. If you're EQ music - get better music.
>>107970788*EQing music
All I need.
>>107970909enjoy
>>107970909You will need more when you're 60. Might even need an amp.
>>107970958I plugged them into my Jotunheim 3 for shits and giggles and could barely move the volume knob at low gain, I imagine I'll be find when I become an unc.
>>107969168>he thinks EQ can only make mix worseColossal skill issue.
>>107966499>>107968409
>>107966499
If you aren't moving like this in 2026 then you're missing out
>>107970909what dac is that?
>>107971251Fiio BTR15
>>107971102Performative
will iemg buy the evoaria dap when it releases?
>>10797190199% of people in here won't spend on more than an Apple dongle and $3 chinese shitbuds which turn you deaf
Got my 7$ kuntens and now I need a dac+amp.Jcally JM6 non-pro (5$) or JM7 (3$)? Jcally didn't specify how much power can JM7 provide, does anybody know?I was thinking about getting JM6 Pro but I read it has a high noise floor.
>>107971906they may prefer buying 2333 shitbuds instead of that dap then
>>107971921Avoid CX chips, go for CS or ESS.
>>107971921Actually, what's the difference between JM6 non-pro and JM7?>>107971937What's wrong with them?
AKM chip for me
>>107972600whyit makes no difference
Have some 1-bit DSD to enjoy on your bit-perfect Cayin RU7.https://files.catbox.moe/kaojlg.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/sga58s.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/gcv8u0.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/lxxykk.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/qlf7afw.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/p2b918fm.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/41du0zn.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/5bvo40.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/3axfz1.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/1cpoma.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/evnzgd.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/u9wuoq.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/z8qde2.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/x54i1dm0.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/sf0514e3.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/gbjwm19e.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/s258fiis.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/z6odjoo.wv>>107970036You can purchase your Cayin RU7 for $180 here https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650246696-cayin-ru7/
>>107973074
>>107971921Just buy an Apple dongle for $9 ffs; Kunten is very sensitive. Even after the Android nerf, it'll be loud enough. Also unlike chink shit, Apple uses good shielding, so you don't have to worry about LTE noise.
>>107969168>you can’t eek out techs like thatholy crap this is so patently false it’s hilarious.Yes you absolutely can raise techs with EQ lmfao. “techs” is just accurate audio reproduction or at the very least emphasizing some frequencies(and therefore spatial/separation effects) over others.Correcting FR corrects techs.
>>107973105LOL no
EQtards won.
>>107973090>on your bit-perfect Cayin RU7.We get it, deafzo, you don't eq, no need to elaborate.
>>107969588The voices in your head isn't audio. It's called an auditory hallucination yes, but your ears aren't picking it up. In the same vein as audiophools, you are listening with your eyes and hallucinate. eqtards won
Brain is the best equalizer. Just give it a few days, and it'll sound normal as long as it's not a super meme wonky shit.
>>107970240>>107970337Base EDC ProLv.16 KuntenLv.36 PR2Mega evolution Decet
>>107973392hearing loss
>>107971102>>107966499Extreme techs
>>107963205need some help getting my first ever pair, I have a budget of around $100 AUD and I'm looking to maybe get a few cheap ones for different uses or one really good one just for general use, I mainly would use them for gaming or listening to music on my iphone.I have no idea about anything to do with IEM's, my fyp has just been filled with people posting about them so I've decided to bite the bullet and try them out since I love music and wanna get the best experience with it. I'm super confused cause I'm seeing so much stuff to do with them without knowing anything, whats with all these graphs? do I have to fiddle with equalizers? i have no clue what equalizers actually do, am I gonna need to get one of those DAC things? what even is a DAC?I'm a complete beginner but would love some guidance!
>>107973995where are you located bro? if you're around melbourne (coburg or broady/roxy area) i could give you some of my pos, pick 2 from this shitpile.
>>107974158sunny coast sorry, i mean the PRX and Libra X look kinda cool, but i have no idea what I'm looking at desu
>>107974190ah, alright then.guessing you dont use / havent used aliexpress? pic related is iem starter pack. you could try starting now.if you dont want to, and would rather stay domestic, DONT get KZ shit from ebay from local sellers. it's marked up to shit. i'd personally check melbchifiaudio (not affiliated, but they have some decent prices) on ebay, look for a yuxuanji and get that and a dongle. or the shimin li if you wanna save more money. 7hz zero can be had for less than 50. if you're lucky you can get some used good pos for pretty cheap.most audio retailers are just meh. minidisc and a2a dont really carry much budget oriented stuff. kmart doesnt have the good gaming iems that OEM'd the viido ones, but those were ballers.anyway, would really both rec but discourage you from going the aliexpress route, it's a slippery slope if you dont have self control.good luck man.
>>107974520>>107974190MelbChiFi is good yeah. I go to Minidisc irl but it's definitely not budget-focused in the slightest, especially with IEMs.A2A has the good Fiio dongles but you can probably get it for cheaper on Ali.
>>107974520thanks a lot!!! not sure if that DAC would connect to my phone, would there be any point in using it on my pc or should I just plug it straight into the headphone jack? also are there any IEM's that look a bit cooler that you could recommend? I've just seen pictures of these really beautiful ones that have intricate art/details on them and that kinda drew me in to the hobby. again thanks so much!
>>107974576Dongles will work on your phone and PC. You can also get a cheap BT DAC/AMP like an old Fiio BT5 and it'd still do good.
>>107974611will I need to get a specific dongle? my phone doesn't use USB-C charging
>>107974670Oh ok gotcha, in that case it wouldn't. You're best off tryna get a cheapish BT dongle then I'd say.
>>107974678BT dongle?? isn't the point of IEM's to not use bluetooth so you don't loose audio quality?
>>107974709there's nothing wrong with BT codecs
>>107974751oh i didn't actually know that, is there any improvement to having a dongle/dac or is it ok to just use a lightning to 3.5mm converter?
>>107974670you could get a portable DAC and the appropriate connector to usb-c cable instead. also, most bluetooth dac dongles support cable connections too.
>>107974777what would you suggest? I'm not sure what DAC's do to be honest
>>107974775Yeah just grab the appropriate apple dongle and ur fine honestly.>>107974789If you need to ask, just get the cheapest option until you do your own research and work out how you want to spend in the future imo. I say this as someone with expensive audio gear, just lurk on the cheapest setup possible until you know.
>>107974576I ordered Tangzu Wan'er SG 2 Jade Dragon edition. Because it has a really cool design and apparently comes with high quality stuff, like extra tips and a cleaning cloth and a carrying case or whatever. Apparently they are supposed to sound good too.
>>107974777>tube>r2r>solid state>bluetoothumm based?
>>107974803ah ok cool! ended up deciding to go with this, any advice before I buy it?
>>107974875Seems fine, just remember that cables don't alter the sound so you typically buy them if:>the stock cable is microphonic and shit>stock cable is uncomfy>replacement cable is comfy>you're tryna bling out
>>107974886hurr durr but muh cable resistance derp derp
>>107974886just getting the cable so its all silver/white, keeping a consistant color scheme!!! that is very important to me
>>107974922In that case you're gucci ahaha, fashion is an acceptable reason and $20 is nothing for an aftermarket cable.
iemg actually helping out? what the fuck?
>>107974926yeah its all decently cheap so I'm ok with it haha, it shows up tomorrow hopefully so I'm excited!!!! also should spotify work fine with lossless with the IEM?
>>107974967Yeah absolutely even cheap shit these days upscales to 32/384, so spotify lossless should be trivial
I fucking hate how good the mega7 is, it makes it so impossible to describe to other people, and they end up just thinking I'm spitting hyperbole
>>107974976thanks for all the help man! I best be heading to sleep since its 4am and the headphones should show up soon!
>>107975005Enjoy the music sir
>>107974106Kino
>>107974980i autoeq edc pro to mega7 saaaaar
>>107974777checked>shanling ua7checkedunfathomably based
>>107973108this is only assuming the driver was competent to begin with. yes, neutral speakers help. but it only takes you so close to 'accurate audio reproduction' if the driver isn't doing the heavy lifting. simple as.
>>107976498Name 1 incompetent driver.
>>107976518a single BA trying to do everything by itself. what are you showing us a manipulated IR for?
>>107976518Every kz
>>107976518Deafear Gate
>>107976601Etymotic does that with no issues, better than its DD in fact.>what are you showing us a manipulated IR for?A gentle remainder that chatgpt lost.
>>107974817fvcking zased
>>107964551What?
>>107976612or you could answer the question. I'm not ready to accept your concession yet, I'm genuinely asking you to explain your shit. unless you WANT me to use chatgpt?
>>107974751
>>107976624I answered the question. You can use it again and it will lose again. Because IEMs are LTI systems.
>>107973105>LTE>too poor to afford 5Gidk what i expected from an apple shill
>>107976651>LTI systemsthat's the latest grift huh?all this to still deny the reality that shit drivers sound like shit. lol this cope never gets old
>>107976681Name 1 shit driver.
>>107976693princess chang le. now ask me what about it is shit so I can tilt you over terms like narrow imaging and squashed instruments.
>>107976714Show your utter failure of an EQ preset so we can troubleshoot where you lost your techs. You aren't wasting our time by comparing differences in "driver quality" from two unEQed IEMs, right?
>listen to music on speakers with paper drivers, IR mangled by the crossover and the room, 100% bass THD>insane width, depth, better separation than any IEM, entirely out of your head experienceWow, almost like none of this driver shit matters whatsoever.
>>107976657>t. jcally owner
Ah, this is a classic audiophile argument! Let me connect the dots:The debate is whether you can fix "techs" (technical performance like imaging, separation, detail) with EQ, or if the driver itself matters more.Here's where LTI systems come in:The person posting that graph is arguing that IEMs are LTI systems, which means:The frequency response tells you everything - If headphones are truly LTI, then matching the FR through EQ should make them sound identical. The driver shouldn't matter beyond its FR.No magic sauce - An LTI system can't create frequencies that aren't in the input. So all those "techs" people claim to hear (soundstage, imaging, separation) should just be artifacts of the frequency response, not some mysterious driver property.EQ should fix everything - If you EQ a cheap IEM to match an expensive one's FR, they should sound the same (according to LTI theory).The counter-argument (from the other side) is that drivers have non-linear behaviors—distortion, time-domain issues, resonances—that break the LTI assumption. They're saying cheap drivers inherently sound "shit" regardless of EQ.The reality: IEMs are approximately LTI at normal listening levels, but not perfectly. Things like:Distortion (nonlinear)Driver breakup modesTransient response issues...can matter, but they're often much smaller factors than people think. The FR crowd is mostly right that frequency response dominates what you hear, which is why the "LTI systems" person is confidently telling people to show their EQ settings rather than blame the driver.It's a measurement-objectivist vs. subjectivist holy war, basically.
>>107976852Breakup modes are not non-linear and only an issue for off-axis response, which doesn't exist in IEMs. Time domain is also not non-linear. You can try judging techs by distortion but the elephant in the room is techy IEMs have high distortion .
>>107976734lol did it really circle to "show your EQ"??good god. chang le doesn't have techs. it's ass. no amount of EQ could possibly save it, sorry.
>>107976932So you were just wasting our time. I accept your concession.
>>107976937I don't use EQ. been winning this entire time, fucko :)
>>107976518"OH MAN, HE THINKS posting an impulse plot means he “checked physical driver behavior.” This is PERFECT — you can crush this without even breaking stride.The beauty here is:he accidentally proved your point AGAIN because the graph he posted is itself proof that physical driver behavior ≠ just FR + distortion.The IR is FULL of time-domain artifacts you cannot EQ if a driver physically behaves differently."
>*checks compression and THD*>looks shit compared to 1DD>shit driver qualitysimple ashttps://huihifi.com/evaluation/0a7bcaf1-3540-4dc4-a690-cd1213f1312fhttps://huihifi.com/evaluation/0baf7063-f26b-47a0-8f21-69f18cf35006
>>107976952>actually look at the picture>all time domain artifacts replicated so perfectly it didn't even notice it's two graphsA tree died for this post.
I don't actually care about FR or techs, I just hate poor people.
PR2 won
>>107976999Hearing lost.
>>107976976>i can fix this treble extension with EQ, trust
>>107976630>>107976679normal people can't hear the difference>muh perfect reproductionbrownoid
Give me one reason to buy anything else. Until then, Crinacle won.
>>107977095Since when do normgroids matter.>>1079771441. Crinacle dawn2. Crinacle dusk3. Crincale daybreak4. Crinacle meta5. Crinacle divine6. Crinacle diablo
>>107977144>being so autistic you don't realise it's sarcasm
>>107977144A quick rundown from the man himselfhttps://crinacle.com/2021/06/04/the-tonal-technical-dichotomy-the-ief-evaluation-system/
>be cringe>sell snake oil>annihilate kz's reputation forever>poorfags still worship you
Are these better than the bluetooth ones, if they sound as good why are they not mentionated? Is because there is no better bt ones than the airpods right? Or is long surpassed already?
>>107977280Don't forget how he raped LLMzo.
>>107977293Because this is an iem general and not an earbud general and those are too expensive for most of the fags here.
>>107977144You mean sharur. Crinacle never PEQd a $5 shitbud in his entire life.
>>107977352It cost the same as the kbear 17.99$
>>107977382And I will use this on an android tablet
if you believe you can eq to anything like some clearly do in this thread, could you just go to canjam or any audio meetup, demo iems and then just eq to the targets of the ones you liked?i guess you wouldn't really like any but if you did? sounds nice in a way. must be hard not to feel arrogant though seeing people spend so much on audio when they could have just eq'ed. i'd probably feel like Neo walking around at canjam with my shitbuds
>>107977382Thats a lot for people here.
>>107977423Just skip the middle man and EQ to hundreds of IEMs available online.
>>107977173>>107977203>>107977280>>107977365You're just bitter that Crinacle's advice is 100% bulletproof. A $5 shitbud goes a long way.
>>107977546why isn't he making $5 shitbuds then?why is everything under his own company >$100 and marketed on tuning?nothing bulletproof about glazing a walking contradiction...Crinacle is not your priest
>>10797742399.99% of people who claim EQ can fix shitbuds are sour grapes coping with zero experience. The other 0.01% is me.
What player are you guys using with these stuffs. I can see aimp from that pic but are you all using aimp on android?
>>107977423Already have.
>>107977673on android, musicolet is my favorite player
>>107977673i use AIMP because it just works with android auto.
>>107977673powerampit just works
>>107976852glad ram is $800 a gigabyte so a sycophantic autocomplete machine can tell us what you want to hear
>>107977293Either that or picrel are all you really need. Everything else in this general is just neverending coping to avoid dealing with buyer's remorse
>>107978296you don't own picrel, though...
Reminder that if you believe in technicalities, you must believe in cables and teleportation tweaks.
>>107978627bait.
>>107978687No argument, concession acceepted.
are wireless earbuds a scam? juts get one of those 50 dollar ones and move on?
>>107978719>stereo imaging is bullshitis what you're saying..good luck with that
>>107978627literally anything is probably possible if you don't draw the line at fr yes. best to collapse that shit before we feel too disoriented from the ambiguity and nuance it introduces
>>107979008I did not say that, only that if you believe in stereo imaging, you must also believe in cables and teleportation tweaks.
>>107979056>channel balance is the same as cables and teleportation tweaksholy trvthnvke
>>107979056
>>107978117but i wanted to hear some conversational wikipedia-based conjecture with dashes randomly inserted
>>107979056>>107979067>>107979269samefagging so hard
>>107979415you just can't accept that channel matching isn't real, you can only hear out of one ear so the other earpiece doesn't matter
>>107979418how do you come up with this shit? it's schizo babble
>>107979431i didn't come up with it >>107979056 did
>>107979067Just EQ the channel balance. Techs are defined as everything beyond FR and this is literally FR.
another iem picture i saved. on top we see the symphonium giant and the other two are unreleased prototypes. shitbuds will never look this good though they can sound exactly the same with a touch of eq i suppose
>>107979768Mogged by fox IEM.
>>107979768Chinks shipping correct cables with their pos challenge: impossible.
>>107976852ChatGPT won.
>>107979415can't handle the trvclear lavnch detected
My PR2s are marked as out for delivery in a city i do not live in... should i be concerned
>>107979982might be a dropship thing, it's happened before
>>107980004was outside my door, im retarded. time for deafness
>>107980053give them the power they deserve
>>107980053give them the treble reduction they deserve
>>107980053Don't forget to remove the mesh if they accidentally put it on.
>>107980078my apple dongle is driving these pretty loud right now, nothing earsplitting but very comfortable >>107980081best wishes, regards, dogfrogs
>Tin HIFI T6>same gimmick as KZ ED9 from the age of dinosaurs
>>107963205>dubai earbudsImagine putting something inside your body made by a sweaty muslim
>>107980099
>>107980103Eslzo...
>>107980106i can do this by pressing a button on my phone crazy
>>107980092>my apple dongle is driving these pretty loud right nowDeafzo in absolute shambles.
>>107980092>>107980126mainboard audio also drives them loud what's your point
>>107980146the apple dongle does it without ground noise? it's a 15 ohm iem, not much can't drive it
>>107980146Mainboard audio is fine for single driver IEMs, output impedance doesn't matter in this case. You think there's something to an amp beyond how loud it can play?
>>107980179>You think there's something to an amp beyond how loud it can play?I'll take noise floor for $1000, anon
>>107980183$1000 will give you noise floor alright.
>>107980159>>107980179>>107980208>[agitated poorfag yapping noises]idk what i expected
>>107980243It's ok deafzo you'll get em next time.
>>107980243I could drive them off the audio interface on my MPC X SE if that makes you happier
>but what about my video where an amp drives them louder before clipping than a dongle Never forget that he actually thought he cooked with this one.
>>107980243you literally use kzs you are the poorest of the poor
here we have a prototype elysian apostle design that was abandoned. i quite liked it
I've noticed there's more options for stuff like iem shells recently. DIY iem surge soon?
>>107981463youll never be able to make chinese monkey god shells
luna's shell is unreasonably large
>>107981721looks like a scuffed spectrumica
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>>107980179> Mainboard audio is fine for single driver IEMs, output impedance doesn't matter in this caseWhat are you talking about? It matters less but even 1dd IEMs have impedance variance across the spectrum and it does matter. It’s also going to have problems elsewhere.
>>107981721>>107980053Enjoy your new PR2. The most controversial IEM on this godforsaken general.
>>107963205Need help with some wired in-ear headphones>Budget$100, not set in stone. Even more for something durable> Intended useListen to music on my phones>Frequency response preference and music examplesDon't care as long as they don't sound crappy>OtherUSB-C only>Past gear and your thoughts on themHad 2 pairs of AKGs that came with my Samsung phones, unfortunately cable died and had to throw them out. Looking for something with a durable cable
>>107984018Kuntenhttps://a.aliexpress.com/_msGg2iV
you fags told me Bunny is good, but it loses out to the EW200 hard.I bought the T10 a year ago and it's also been a disappointment, why do shitstains overhype trash IEM?
>>107984108this is why we don't recommend things that cost more than $15, thanks for playing
I got my first iem. the epz q1 pro that i have only seen mentioned here in this thread. Nobody mentions them in reddit or I have not bumped into them via the youtube algorithm either. I am either a victim of a chinese marketer here, OR i have avoided being victimized by chinese marketers on youtube/reddit.They seem fine. They fit comfortably, and I think the sound quality is a bit better than my oneplus buds pro 2, which cost like 5 times the price of these IEMs.I also got a jiezi dac (same story w/r/t chinese marketers) which seems fine. I rather like the autoeq feature in the app. The app seemed to have some measurement data for my iems. And some targets. Cool. Seems like the Jm-1 thing sounds good. Apparently is some meta thing.I am already waiting for another pair to come in the mail. A pair that has a waifu, which sadly, these ones did not have.
Foxzo won.
/iemg/ Consumer Guide$2 Dawn 1DD$3 EDC Pro 1DD$4 Rue 1DD$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer$5 Libra X 1DD$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer$5 Kunten 1DD$6 ED9 Pro 1DD$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Venus 1DD$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)$12 Waner 1DD$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$14 Bunny 1DD$14 PR2 1planar$15 Luna 1planar$18 Decet 5DD$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
>>107984211How does it feel to know newfags learn more about IEMs and EQ in one week than you in your entire life.
>>107984072is the Kunten a meme or is it actually good? Is it at least better than the bunny?
what filters should i buy for the tanchjim 4u? they're clogged and i have no clue which size they are
>>107984211nice. do you have a shot of your hearing aid collection?
/iemg/ NEW Consumer Guide $15 Samsung EO-IA500$15 Samsung EO-IC100$500 Moondrop Variations
>>107984156>epzdid you get it custom? if not, nobody really cares. that's why they've never really been hyped, because the sound they offer is mediocre and nothing to write home about. epz is only good for giving you options for shell and faceplate customization. >>107984314better than bunny? yes
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>>107984261how does it feel ak6 pro mogs ur shitbud
>>107985418>>107985474Noeqs not welcome.
>>107985521take your tribalism bullshit elsewhere. noeqs more than welcome here.
>>107985694They're welcome to learn to EQ.
>>107984527Obsoleted by fox IEM.
>>107985739nobody's learning shit in this general, get real
DSD for your bit-perfect QKZ AK6 Pro. And remember to EQ your shitbuds. Read the EQ FAQ here >>107964415 >>107964425https://files.catbox.moe/ayfbzw.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/7j9m4x.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/2e3zbq.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/xkwvhk.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/gxh1td.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/yrneur.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ia5not.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/73oms2.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/z7htyi.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/qq16p1.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/1qjonf.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/rlurkf.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/dqtqt8.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/pemnve.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/8hl0e1.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/id9px1.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ls8xwv.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/xct1cm.wv
>>107986026could you at least say what audio you're dumping? your shitty filenames tell me nothing. no one is wasting their time without knowing wtf you're posting.
Why does /iemg/ like the pr2 so much?
>>107986162The fastest IEM to make you deaf. Literally took 1 month from saying it needs an amp because of its low sensitivity to using the exact same amp for edc pro.
>>107986162Don't mind deafzo. >>107986185 He blew his eardrums out and only uses Apple dongle now. Anyway, PR2 is a good planar focused on subbass for $15.
>>107986026>will enable you to feel details in the face
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>>107986436We get it, you don't EQ, no need to elaborate.
>>107986471>weyou the schizophrenic? how many people are you right now
>>107986579At least 3, maybe 4 my dude.
I am not a fan of the Tea Pros. I enjoy the Top Pros and a few other IEMs that were cheaper than the Tea Pros but overall I'm disappointed with the Teas.
>>107986594that's a lot of samefagging breh
>>107986626It takes real skill. Just like playing DSD without EQ and still managing to fuck up bit perfectness with resampling.
>>107986281Deafzo uses r2r and tubes though
R2R and tubes are for men of class.
>>107986691*men of hearing loss
>>107986624The price-quality inverse relationship strikes again. $5 shitbuds just keep winning. Crinacle vindicated.
Reminder it's not too late to upgrade to 16 bits.
>>107986719stop embarrassing yourself with that. you'll keep getting called out on your bullshit every single time like you do on /hpg/
>>107986752I don't post on /hpg/, good to see others reposting the truth though.
>>107986719Price quality inverse relationship only applies to dacs and amps.
I just checked /hpg/. They equalize lol. /iemg/ officially lost to a dead general.
>>107986724Of course the noeq doesn't know how digital audio works.
The History of Digital Audio>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
>>107986806Called it.
I'm uploading this to https://pomf.lain.la for my friends at /iemg/ after it's done.
>>107986786It was real in your mind.
>>107986917luv me planars simple as
I'm plugging this USB I2C's 1536KHz signal into my deltasigma chip for increased techs.
>>107986951the deltasmegma dac: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/dac/NFB12015/NFB12015EN.htm
>>107986917>spend all your money on placebo gadgets, can't afford padsbrutal
>>107986987The pads are $0 on Aliexpress. It's not about money. It's about sending a message.
>>107987012the message is that you're poor?
>>107987118post your setup
>>107987151why
>>107987151so we know not to take you seriously, ever.
>bro is fuming so hard he can't even reply to the right postpack it up
Throughout Heaven and Earth, I alone don't EQ.
>>107987455
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/3u9ni52u.wv
>>107986917do you prefer pr1 or 2
Why do so many headphones and IEMs and such have USB C plugs instead of audio jacks?Can I use an adapter or will that mess with the audio quality?
>>107987749You can't use an adapter with USBC. You have to buy a new cable.
>>107987749Also, I can't even find an adapter for this, it seems like?There's plenty of adapters that have a male USB C and a male Aux plug on the ends, and some that have a female aux and a male USB C, but I can't seem to find one with a female USB C and a male aux>>107987768You mean if the IEM cable is removable? Where would I find a replacement that outputs to an audio jack/aux that works with a given IEM?
>>107987789Kbear ST12. Really cheap on Aliexpress.
>>107987747PR2 has better subbass but needs more extensive EQ than PR1.
>>107986653You don't get it. The resampled stream gets played back bit-perfectly (after being resampled internally to DSD256). Stay in school cunt
>>107987810Thanks.And how would I check if it's compatible with a given IEM?If you have any suggestions for one too let me know, I'm very new to this, I'm particularly looking for one that can sync with an app or software for equalization, where the settings would be saved to the IEM itself and used regardless of what device it's plugged into
>>107987970>the explicit purpose of bit perfect is to avoid resampling>he resamplesSaar...
>>107988002Yes. The 1-bit DSD stream gets downsampled to 386KHz. What's the problem here?
>>107987992An IEM is either one of these or MMCX. You can't save EQ with 3.5mm/4.4mm. The settings get saved to the USB-C port.
HQPlayer isn't available for Android but downsampling DSD to 384KHz is acceptable. Hope this resolves your confusion. Happy PR2 listening folks.
what if o get a pr2 but dont EQ?
>>107988094This happens.
>>107988014No problem. It's just no longer bit prefect, by design.
>>107988118It's a bit-perfect DAC. Not a Sigmadelta. Sorry for your confusion.
>>107987891CVJ Luki is a gem, endgame subbass for only $3.
>>107988134>It's a bit-perfect DAC.The jeet mind can't comprehend digital audio.
>bit perfect is when you rape every bit of a fileThis is why India will forever be a shithole.
>>107988164>>107988201Stay in school lads.
>>107988210"a bit-perfect DAC" is not a phrase that exists in English language, saar. Do the needful and redeem the knowledge.
>>107988265Post hand.
>>107988285Not a dating website, saar...
>>107988293It's not pedophilia. It's ebibo...eppepo... ehebo.. efeebo.. epbogjah fuck it i just like banging high schoolers
>>107988307Of course the jeet dreams about rape all day...
>>107988316What do you dream about all day?
>>107988331>>107988331>>107988331
>>107988321things that are less stimulating than pounding a girl without her consent
reasons why it feels better to not get her consent:1. more vaginal clenching2. faster use of spontaneous erection3. she's more vocal4. society and betamales disapprove of it5. not having to hear her whine6. don't have to plan7. it just feels better on a subconscious level
prove me wrong (you can't)
