UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)*On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 40704k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>107962758
First for Chairman Xi, the only hope of the hobby.
>>107966068>>107966058
At LEAST...These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soonNvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcb/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
Just in time for a new thread, just finished building today, admittedly it's pretty ugly
>>107967754+1 for a patricians AP201 case.+1 for a patricians choice in RTX goodness.
>>107967948In the OP: >Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67These are not AIOs and the OP is almost always a copypasta (I am no the OP but the OP copied my old OP title and the OP text).>>107967962I think they don't care so long as the OP is not trying to use the OP as a brandwar thingie.Long live /pcbg/!
>>107967754>uglysomehow but not rlywhat sticks out is a power supply (no way??) in front.how stupid.
>>107967754what AIO is that
>>107966068>5080 for 4k native but 5070 ti isn'twhat nonsense is this?
>>107969203>>>107967754>>ugly>somehow but not rlymaybe the anon is colorblind or something.
>>107969229>5080 for 4k native
I have an AMD pc and haven't updarted my bios since 2019 AMA
Should I install my RAM (45mm) before I install my CPU heatsink? (Not an AIO)I am leaning toward yes bc isn't it a bitch to push in DDR5 nowadays? I haven't done this in a decade and keep doubting myself and I got long lanky basketball hands
>>107969733you're going to have to update for the 5850X3D bro
>>107969774yes, easier to put it in before the heatsink, just did this yesterday
>>107969774CPU, ram and PSU cables goes in first before the cooler/gpu
>>107969859I'm building outside my case first because my cooler is xbawx hugePlus I'm waiting on my fans to come tomorrow
>>107969660yeah it's kinda retarded, they make these cables and then you can't buy them anywhere>At least you're future proofed if it's 3.1the far away future yeah lmaogonna sit on my ddr4 32gb and 5700x for the foreseeable futurenot like it matters since the gpu was always the bottleneck (and still is at 4k)
>>107969229its the 5080 redditnigger thinking hes high end the hero of /pcbg/ according to some (((people)))
What's the best way to test new 8TB+ hard drives?
i've been having problems with my 4090 cardwill crash after gaming for 10-30min. getting an event id: 41 error.does my cable look fucked up to you?
>>107970101Hard to say. Instead of having Michael J. Fox take the shot, see if you could get a sharper picture.
>>107970115it's not shakey man...
>>107970121oh. Then try again, and this time focus.
>>107970129??
>>107970140have you tried not being old?
>>107970145yes...
>>107970140ok, better. If the connector was fully seated, I would try tightening the terminals. A very small pick took on either side of the terminals, 90° off from the gap, press gently to close the gap a TINY bit. This will mitigate poor contact. Go slow. Make small adjustments.
>>107970101>>107970140event id 41 can mean anything. what makes you go for the gpu first? it could be a cpu or ram error.
>>107970199i first noticed a problem because the graphics card was rather loud early into gameplay. i haven't done much to troubleshoot since the issue started, as i've been pretty busy to even play games. when i saw other people having issues with card cables melting i got more serious. i've been using gemini to troubleshoot for the most part, and it was saying the cable pin looks bad.i was planning on asking the psu maker (evga) for warranty support
>>107970221If you're on DDR5 this may apply to you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rwp0NuqDlwBasically your GPU uses 450+W and that heat has to go somewhere which is inside your case and if the RAM is 55C from working that extra GPU heat sends it to 65-70C which is enough to induce crashes/errors.
>>107970247i'm still on ddr4. been meaning to build a more modern pc but life's been a bit rough last year. maybe i should just buy more ram if i wanna do anything local ai
>>107970253ddr4 samsung b die is known to be temperature sensitive. its starts throwing errors as low as 60c. i dunno what dies you got.
Reminder that HUB lied, supplies died.
>>107970265i got some old g.skill ripjaws. two v series 32GB. don't know if that tells anything.my psu is a evga 1200 p2 so i should have enough juice
>he didn't boughted a 5070 Ti before it was too late
>Trying to but a sff case on ali that everyone online says is $60 >It's now $120Wtf I hate it here
>>107969217asus prime lc360>>107969203It was a bit annoying to build with the way it's positioned but it ended up ok
>>107970353too busy buying 36cm long platinum silicone horsecock and rainbow thighhighs, sorrydon't regret it tho>humiliation ritual has only 2 panelslucky me
KEK ram will soon be bundled with CPUs and coolers as standard
>>107970417but why?
>>107970353i was too busy spending my money on a 5090
>>107970419A form of rationing to the peasants who can't pay AI money for ram
>he didn't boughted a 5070 Ti Prime instead of TUF
>>107970417Microcenter already has it bundled with a CPU and mobo.
>>107970419buy more save more anon
>>107970440Imagine buying a tuf instead of a strix. SAD!
>>107970440ENTER
>>107970449but i am in fact paying more!
>>107970440>Prime instead of TUFwhats the difference
>>107970308if its cl14 is likely samsung. if its cl16 or cl18 its likely hynix. but its unknown what you actually got unless you check.
I shit myself FUCK I hope if I start cackling no one notices
>>107970460how much you paid twin
>>107970460Asus 5070ti Tuf white?
>>107970460Too lazy to check, which version is this?
>>107970472The Prime is the poorfag/sfffag variant and looks like a McDonald's toy.
>>107970504prime is for people who just want a gpu. tuf is for people who touch their pc components all the time and don't actually use them. got it.
>>107970494Nevermind, it's just a prime 5070ti ocCue my disappointment
>>107970554You don't touch your pc components? How do you put them in? Do you let someone else do it? Like a cuck?
poorfag cope itt kek
>>107970098>>107970098anyone knowledgeable about HDD pls respond?
>>107970633i touch them once so it's not a buying consideration.
>>107970098>>107970669What do you mean by test? What exactly are you trying to test on it exactly? It's health? Read and write speeds?
Going from a 5900x to a 9800x3d. Am I going to feel the burn of not having a workstation grade CPU anymore?
>>107970730>workstation grade CPU>5900x since you didn't have one to begin you shouldn't really feel the difference.
>>107970730Maybe? IME my 9800x3d does bog down a bit more than my old 13900K did in windows so I can't wait to get a 10800x3d whenever it comes out just so that windows can feel just as snappy as before
not really
Was thinking about getting a 8TB WD Black for all my game backups, but it seems to be $210 on Amazon. Is that still a good price or should I get a 6TB for $30ish cheaper? I'm maining in FOMO mode in regards to HDD price increases.
>>107970744windows is just ass. not the fault of the cpu that they can't leverage it. it works just fine on linux.
>>107970730no the 9800x3d is faster than the 5900x by enough to outperform it even is extremely well scaling benchmarks like rendering despite the core deficit, not to mention poorly scaling productivity tasks like compiling being no contest in the 9800x3ds favorif you feel the need for a 'workstation class' cpu at all though you might want to do more research into the higher core count AMD cpus or even intel depending on the workload
>>1079707309800x3d gets higher cinebench multicore & singlecore score than 5900x
>>107970683Just try and make sure it survives the bathtub curveShould I do a long / full zero format?
>>107970754I read it might be due to some core scheduling issue on Ryzen even on 1ccx Ryzen CPUs. Like how changing core affinity for games to avoid CPU0 results in +20% on the 9800x3d. So I don't have much hope that a faster 12-core 144mb L3$ 10800x3d will change things much
I'm buying IPS monitors, use them for some months and then sell them because I hate the IPS glow. I think I should buy my first OLED and settle down.
>>107970765Honestly couldn't help you there. I think you just gotta use it normally. Might ask /hsg/ if they have any ideas if there's a way to test for such things. Maybe a read/write stress test might help? I'm sure you can take a look at the SMART data as well.
>>107970098>>107970765nta and i know it's a little silly because the expected lifetime is far in excess of the number of writes i'll ever ask a drive to do when i'm using it, but SSDs do have a limited lifespan and you can actually watch the "drive health" tick down over time in whatever SSD control panel software your brand has, so I try to not run too many random benchmarks on them much less any form of stress test
>>107970775If you use your computer at night just get OLED. Your eyes will thank you. You can game for hours without eye strain, those backlights just wear your mucus.
>>107970771>+20% on the 9800x3d.i doubt this only works on the new amd cpus since i used to do the same thing on my x5675 as well. this is just the nature of windows.
>>107970771That core 0 trick is specifically for DX11 and older games because they end to be single/dual core focused. For DX12/Vulkan you want all cores available for PSO comp.
>>107970782It's definitely a thing on Ryzen, I just wonder whether intel engineers have fixed this on their end or not since it would explain why their CPUs just lags less in the windows DE
>>107970781(upvote)
future cpus like zen 7 are gonna come with low power cores for the OS and background apps and that's the only solution to the scheduling problem
>>107970781My OLED at 50 brightness doesn't do a thing to my eyes compared to my VA at 30. One has to be turned down to 0 to be comfortably used in the dark, the other doesn't need to be adjusted unless white backgrounds are just too much of a flashbang.
Does anyone here own a 32GX870A?
>>107969247is the AMD the special boy :3
>>107970809We need low latency powerful cores to fix the problem and not power saving laggy cores to make it worse
>>107970809ryzen already fixed the scheduling problem its called single ccd.future ryzen chips will eliminate the soc and 2nd ccd altogether by just combining everything.
So I got the 9800x3d bundle from microcenter a few weeks ago. I haven't been able to build anything yet, but I see there's issues going on with multiple motherboards including asus. It seems like it's mainly the x variants though. I got some discontinued b650 board or something. Will I be fine?
>>107970919just make sure you update the bios and it should be alright
What's the simplest way to overclock my 3200mhz cl16 kit to 3600mhz cl18? Can I just go into the BIOS, change the timings and frequency and bump the voltage by 0.1 until I test that it's stable? Or do I have to do some more in depth shit?
I want to build a nas/plex/frigate machine all in one...my first time doing this.I have my old gaming computer with a 3700x and a gtx1650 super, should I use that or sell it and buy an i5 14400? I can get a pretty good deal on the i5 and a mobo for it, so it's basically breakeven. I have 32gb of ddr4 ram already set aside.
What's the difference between all these OLED types these days?
>>107970982you wont need to overvolt for that
>>107970990you can ask ai
>>107970990>all theseIt's just woled and qd-oled
>>107970247Every week I accidentally find a new reason to be glad I didn't chose AM5 for my new rig.
3d v-cache really got people convinced AMD wasn't the budget janky option (i have an 9800x3d)
>>107971089it's a ddr5 problem not an am5 problem. and to solve the problem you just point a fan at it or flip your top one. wow. no reason to use shitel or their suicide cpus.
7800x3d on am4 rumors THIS WEEK!
Please diagnose my level of retardation for having my current PC break right now and getting RAPED with buying a new one. Fuck Altman and AI.PC is for work, heavy VM usage, and some gayming on the side for my leisure.Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7/5.2GHz Tray413.40€Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7230.99€RAM *Team Group T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 6000MHz 32GB 2x16GB CL30 Dual AMD EXPO e Intel XMP569.95€Fractal Design Meshify 2 USB-C 3.1 161.99€be quiet! LIGHT LOOP ARGB 360 Kit 360mm 129.99€Corsair RMx Series RM850x PCIe 5.1 ATX 3.1 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular150.90€GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G SHADOW 3X OC BULK 650€ (refurbished)WD BLACK SN7100 2TB SSD 7250MB/s NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Gen4 TLC 3D NAND209.95€Philips Evnia 27M2N3501PA/00 27" Fast IPS QHD 260Hz HDR10 199€Raped 2,757€ times.
>>107971157>PC is for work, heavy VM usage, and some gayming on the side for my leisure.>Ryzen 7 9800X3Dprob should just get a 16 core if you plan on having a bunch of vms.>32GB 2x16GB more ram. the speed doesn't really matter all that much outside of gaming and more is always better than faster with a system for work and vms.
Do I want "2x8pin-16pin native cables"?
>>107971157>PC is for work, heavy VM usagewhy are you getting a gaming cpu then
>>107971157If its work then you want the 9950x unless whatever you do barely counts as work. You've decided to pay out the nose for "normally optimal" RAM so might as well just give up the X3D to shuffle around the costs (and its only 32?). Overpriced AIO but you do you. Depending on your "work" perhaps you want more than 2TB over multiple drives? This just looks to me more like a gaming device first and work second.>IPShaha unc
>>107971185>R9 7950X26.51s>R7 7700X27.17s>9950X29.29s>9800X3D29.50s>5950X29.55sdid i miss anythin... oh it's virtualbox. like the worst vm software there is. mind you if you aren't using linux for vms you are doing it wrong but hyper-v and vmware are better than this pos. fucken usless benchmark numbers. nobody cares.
>>107971193oled for work is retarded, oled on pc in general is retarded
>buy a 9070 Sapphire for 600€ two weeks ago>it's now 779€l m a o
>>107971101Didn't mean to shit on AMD. I did go with an AM4 rig because this whole "ddr5 needs to attune" was byzantine to me and felt like enshittification. I'm sure most AM5 owners are happy but God every week high build patricians have some horror story to share like cables melting in their GPU or motherboard frying their CPU or overheated RAM crashing the system. I'm happy with my choices.
>>107971199Nigga it's all virtual just admit wanting to do work on that build is stupid and he needs more ram
>>107971185>>107971168>>107971193To play videogames at home obviously, this pc is a mixed bag.You're right that should use a Ryzen 9 for this one at least.Thanks for the input.
>>107970247>Mfw ram is idling at 60c
>>107970247I thought ddr5 handled temps better than 4?
there hasn't been any real reason to upgrade from zen 2/3 until today and that's crazy, everything is just a tiny bit faster and that's all, I know zen 6 will change this but it took way too long
>>107971213why are you laughing? you have a 9070 now.>>107971217it's just supid people mostly. getting fucked for not doing research. ddr5 is better than ddr4. just has some problems with temps and the price.>>107971219>Nigga it's all virtual hahaha you fucking retard. virtualbox is like a type 2 shitty hypervisor. losing a lot of performance on that pos already. those numbers are basically useless. how can 9950x be slower than a 7950x? how is a 9800x3d just as fast as a 5950x. this benchmark is basically useless. it doesn't make any sense. like what is it testing exactly?>>107971237~28°c
>5080 at $2000 in some placesrape. complete and utter rape.
>>107971255>why are you laughing? you have a 9070 now.Why wouldn't I? It's a good card for my use and anything similar by Nvidia was at least 300€ more expensive when I got this.
>>107971264are you doing at least a bios flash?
>>107966068what's the best way to get ddr4 ram now that shit's all fucked? should i just buy it from china?
>>107971268Of course, even I am not that retarded
Case is a Lian Li 216. I have 3 extra 120mm fans lying around. I was thinking of doing 2 intakes at the bottom and 1 exhaust using the fan bracket that comes with the case. See pic related.Would this configuration make sense or would that bottom exhaust steal the fresh air from the two intakes?
>>107971274i remember when i looked into it that you needed a bios flasher tool to connect to the chip on the pcb directly. can you do it without now?
Should I go Gigabyte Gaming or PowerColor Reaper for an RX 9060 XT 16GB? Gigabyte is the 3 fan non-OC model, Reaper is about $50 cheaper right now. They're the most affordable 16GB 9060s I could find here.
>>107971281do it right
>>107971288i got the 2 fan powercolor reaper if you have any immediate questions
>>107971288gigabyte has the weird melting goop thing if you're gonna mount it vertically
>>107971255>how canBy reading you fucking retard
>>107971287I'm not sure because I had a friend who has a bios flasher tool help me with it. It was a bit of a hassle but nothing too difficult
>>107971303I only have three fans. Wouldn't that top intake fight against the natural convection of hot air?
What happens if I mix match memory? Will my PC blow up?
>>107971237Nvm its my Gpu memory temps.
>>107971321your benchmark pictures suck ass. can't tell me that a 9800x3d is just as good as a 5950x for vms.
>>107971341you disable expo and install the new memory and it will figure out how to run. then you'll have to manually tweak from there because the expo profile will no longer run stably, but this is usually true of going from 2->4 sticks of the same exact memory anywayymmv but that was my experience
>>107971334For the last fucking time hot air does not rise into the air with such force to fight against a fan, otherwise we wouldn't need balloons to collect the hot air and standing over a campfire would let you fly.
>>107971370Alright, so since I only have three fans. What would your recomendation be?
>>107971319Are the thermals actually a reason for concern or is it just a brand wars thing?>>107971319I won't.
>>107971384I would install the exhausts but I would also buy more fans and populate all slots
>>107971384Bare caseThree fansTwo at the frontOne at the backThe bog standardThe usualYe olde' arraign'ments
>>107971393Sorry, I meant I have three extra 120mm fans. I have the stock 160mm fans at the front and one 140mm fan at the back.
How are MSI boards for AMD these days? Do they suck like all the rest?
>>107971389The thermal gel they use isn't electrically conductive but maybe it is getting heat onto components on the PCB that shouldn't. It might also be a sign that it will pump out much faster than expected over time and thus need replacement. They are supposed to have fixed the problem by now so maybe check the card's manufacture date?
>>107971391So two exhausts, the one at the top and the one at the left-side bottom rear? What about the third fan? The 216 has great CPU temps already, but meh GPU temps.
>>107971309>>107971389>Are the thermals actually a reason for concern or is it just a brand wars thing?Meant to reply to you as well. It's the main thing I've seen people complaining about with these two cards.
>>1079713971. There isn't going to be a fan where the PCIe expansion slots are.2. The 216's PSU bay is still in the normal back location, so the rear bottom fan will be somewhat obstructed.3. Thus, one intake on the bottom front, one intake top front, one last exhaust top rear.
>>107971403What do you mean by "suck like all the rest"?
>>107971403Buy Sapphire.
>>107971422Wouldn't those top fans mostly be helping CPU temps? Based on my cursory research, the 216 has great CPU temps stock, but somewhat mediocre GPU temps.
>>107971407They fixed it within 2 months so I don't know why anons keep bringing it up as if it's still February 2025...
>>107971421i'm happy with the temps and i'm going through a remarkably hot australian summer. run it exclusively on 1440p. cannot comment on other models.
is there anything wrong with having my sata ssds sitting in a hammock of zip ties?
>>107971499i used to leave mine absolutely loose in the case back when i had a bunch of them, just kind of push them into a vague nest
So for reasons unknown to me, I have two sets of 32gb ddr5 memory. I have some Crucial 6000 36CL and Patriot Venom 6000 30CL.Which set do I keep? I know the Patriot is "faster" but I don't really know much about the brand.
>>107971534Keep the patriot obviouslyRam brand doesn't matter. The type of ram chips found in 6000cl30 kits are made of sk Hynix and they're the gold standard for performance and stability for ddr5.
>>107971534the reviews for patriot ram on newegg and bestbuy are really bad
why are nvidia drivers so shit? they need like os updates to properly work.
>>107971551
>>107971551>>107971554https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law
>>107971554why are amd drivers so shit? they don't make use of new os features.
okay guys I'm schizophrenicI cancelled the PSU order and I'm getting https://seasonic.com/12vhpwr-cable/ this instead, it will work with my atx2.x seasonic focus gx right? the problem with the compatibility list is that there''s revised focus gx that have atx3.0 and 3.1
>>107971561>>107971565>new featuresmore slopstill doesn't explain why amds gpu works the same way on both windows 10 and 11 while the nvidia gpu needs a whole os upgrade to properly work.
some people are pretty pressed about only being able to afford amd cards huh
>>107971575Nvidia put in an artificial limit for Windows 10
>>107970730>he didn't boughted the 9950x
>>107971585
>new OLEDsWhy would you buy this when they'll be at least 150% more expensive than 3rd QD-OLEDs but only be like 10% better?
>>107971585>>107971588
>>107971334It will go against it and make a hot mess. But this setup assume you use a CPU aircooler so the top intake fresh air is sucked straight into the cooler to be expelled by the rear fan, this way the regular airflow isn't affected. It works.
>>107971589They won't be 150% more expensive. What are you smoking?
i havent dusted my pc in 2 years and temps are still under 60c
ips microrgb ultrawide is the future of pc monitors
Meshify 3 or 4000D FRAME?
Apparently my motherboard doesn't have PCIe 5 lanes for the GPU or something? How much will that affect my 5070ti?
>>107971672minimally
>>107971672Margin of error difference in performance vs Gen4.
>Be me>Cruising on a pauper build 3600+4060 8Gb>Panicbuy a 5060 Ti 16Gb about a week ago to weather the storm with extra VRAM and DLSS clutch>It's not in stock before few days but it's at local MSRP>HUB releases the 5070 Ti End Of Life video the very next day>My card still isn't in stock but price rises 10% nonetheless>It's restock day but online stocks go "Restocking" to "Unavailable">Email customer service> "Yes anon, it'a coming today no worries. Online stock have nothing to do with your order">It's bullshit but I still want to believe a tiny bit >Week-end pass and nothing happens>I email them this morning again> "No stock and no news from the supplier anon"It's over. I emailed PNY Europe myself twice but they're playing chicken.
>>107971672>>107971682it should be noted that if you are pushing up against the vram limits of your card it starts to matter a lot. you should be more than fine with the 16gb of vram of a 5070ti but someone posted some benchmarks of the dropoff on an 8gb card and it was pretty dire.i only bring this up because there's a kneejerk reaction that pci-e gen doesn't matter at all but that 5090 will essentially never be out of vram so in some cases can be slightly misleading to generalize from
>>107970353>Too lateWhat happened?
>>107971694At this point you should just get 5070 instead, 50€ difference at least in my slav shithole.
>>107971706explainPerformance generally goes bad when you run out of VRAM, no matter the PCI gen.
>>107971682>>107971706Huh, then hope I'm fine. I bought a warranty from Microcenter with their bundle because of all the dead cpu failure rates I keep hearing. I think I have to keep using the B650-E board I got with it for the warranty to count or whatever.Maybe I should just call and ask for a refund on the warranty.
>>107971709I paid 450€, 10x payment installation. How much is a 5070 in your country slavanon mon ami?
buy your shit asap, look at gold prices, something bad is going to happen
>>1079717345060Ti 16GB are minimum 520€ at the moment, 5070 start at 570€.
>>107971725random screenshot from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhS0_ra9c4when you're running at the edge of your vram limit the pcie speed starts to matter
got a 6800xt. should i upgrade to an 9070xt? i wanna run linux in the future so no nvidia.
>>107971767I would, I own a 9070xt
>>107971769is the sapphire pulse a good one? only the xfx quicksilver, hellhound and prime are above it in price here.
>>107971785I'd go with xfx, I have the steel legend asrock
>been wanting to move to linux>boughted a 5070ti anywayWhatever, the performance on it seems all right for Linux. Maybe I can just do gpu passthrough if I need to. Fuck dual booting.
Has this ever been addressed?
>>107971767I would wait for RDNA5/10070XT
>>107971752I'll keep waiting on a miracle and harassing customer services then.
>>107971863what are you waiting for? it's over. microslop lost. gayemers lost. nvidia lost. amd won. linux won.
Does 5070ti mog 3080ti? I wanna low key upgrade my GPU for premiere pro and vidya
I'm gonna buy chinese ddr5
There is nothing wrong with buying chinese ddr5 if it really works at advertised speed
>>107971907it's unamrican.
>>107971913Yes, and?
>5070 ti shadow 3xIt was the cheapest and still available here but holy shit this is the worst GPU ever. Plastic backplate, 50 degrees on idle, fans are straight up broken ootb and loud af at load, locked power limit and the one I got is not even "OC" edition apparently. Damn, at least there is no coil whine at all.MSI should NOT sell such shitty brands for 5070 and higher tiers wtf
>>107971918support our schlomo goverment.
>>1079718733080ti is basically a 4070 super which is basically a 5070, I wouldn't get a 5070ti right now because they have just gone up in price and to be honest you will not notice a 25%+4gb difference, but its your money.
>>107971384i would buy a 5 pack arctic for identical sound profile and ditch the garbage fans shiped with your case
>>107971954So going from 3080ti to 5070ti is a bad move?
>>107966068I'm extremely sad that I'm not a turbo retard consumerist and upgraded to 64gb RAM when I could
>>107971971I'm mad I only got 6000MHz CL36 over a more baller kit, desu.It would only have been like $150 more for CL30 8000MHz.
oh great now my fucking adjustable desk died and had to buy a new oneI spent 3500 bucks in the last 2weeks on a replacement PC, replacement gpu, replacement monitor, replacement psufucking hell
>>107972021>replacement PCTV*
>>107971633Cheapest 3rd gen OELD 4k240hz here is 550€. Those new ones will go for a thousand more
>>107972021>he fell for the standing desk meme
>>107972060meme? it's perfect for using a walking pad while working
>>107972065>walking pad while working
>>107972052That's not 32" for sure which defeats the point of 4K screen IMO.
>>10797207132 inch here is 619€ so it's almost the same. I'm gonna get pic related cause the new ones will be jewified to up to 1600 or more
>>107972085that is an insanely good dealI have the curved version and it's great
>>107972108oh nvm it's the Curx, I have the 165hz version of thatstill, same panel, really good monitor
>>107972116The 165 Hz flat version is 599 and then the flat 240 Hz flat is 699. I'mma get curved cause I'll mainly use it for triple a games and Netflix.
>>107972085>>107972108I got the lg c5 42'' for 900 euros. Good deal?
>>107972060i admire anyone that can actually stick to using one. i've been in two offices that gave em to us and it gets old fucking fast despite knowing you 'should' be using it for your own health. everyone gives it an honest go at first of course but it just became rarer and rarer over time to see anyone bother.come to think of it there was this one first-in/last-out/lived and breathed the work guy that was always in standing mode. There's probably some correlation there but he can keep it
I put off upgrading to am5 6 months ago because ddr5 seemed expensive
>>107972165I put off upgrading to am5 6 months ago because ddr6 seemed so close
i upgraded like an unthinking fomo sheep following the panicked herd and that turned out to be the best course of action
>>107971927i've never bothered but that seems like a good time to look into deshrouding
>>107972085That's a great deal tho, 1000€+ in my cunt'ry.
>>107972165am5 is almost end of lifeZen 10000 later this years will be the last chip
>>107972219still better than anything from intel. so no reason to not buy am5.
Are there any issues with Deepcool CH160 Plus case?Is it good? Thermals?
>>107972219>am5 is almost end of lifelol what. it's officially supported for at least 2 years
>>107972230>deepcoolSee >>107971913
>>107972236that is a good thing.
>>107972224>so no reason to not buy am5exept having a dead end platformNext after Ryzen 10000 will be am6 with ddr6>lol what. it's officially supported for at least 2 yearshow naive.Ryzen 10000 will drop late 2026 / early 2027.Nothing will happen the rest of the year and early 2028 AM6 will get launched.
>>107972219zen 11000 will be the last generation for am5
>>107972246they said the samething about am4...
>>107972253am4 ended with the 5800x3d. everything that came after are just rebadges of old cpus
What's the minimum system configuration I could get away with for use with Koikatsu (moderate amount of mods to make renders look less basic) and Blender? For Blender, I won't be doing crazy simulations. I just need something to get me through these price hikes; I don't need to go overkill.
>>107972262i7-6900kradeon rx6900xtgeforce gt 420
>>1079722629950x128gb ddr5 6000mhz509050908tb nvme
>>107972249its not like they never canceled anounced chips before in favor of a new platform (hint, it happend prior to am4 launch)ai shit is lucrative enough to not stay on obsolete ram for another 3 years
>>107972262Whatever amount you spend on a PC would be better spent on HRT and gender-affirming care.You got this sis.
>>107972262Just wait for iwara to come back and you won't have to make your own goonslop
>>107966068is 60-65 *C normal idle for r5 3600
>>107972312Yeah, if your ambient temperature is 50C.
>>107972264Is the CPU a hard fast baseline (for either program)? I've already got a lot of RAM and a decent GPU, it's the CPU of all things that might be an issue...>>107972286It's kill, anon.
>>107972335so its fine in Australia?
>>107972372just go with a 9950x, it will last you long time
>>107972372Last news said they got backups for most content and are looking for a safer hosting.There's a public backup mentioned in comments too.
>this is unironically a real picturethere is no worse time in pc history than now
>>107972418>5200CL40absurd for this price
>>107972418don't buy this ram. it is trash. i should know. i have it. do not recommend.
>>107965802absolutely horrendous benchmark and claim brought up hereenjoy your dips in games like I saidthe copes/knowledge/AMDicksucking is absolutely horrendous here as we move forward
i'm upgrading from my 7900XT to a 5070Ti AMA.
>>107972411I'd rather wait until the bubble pops. Waitfags will have the last raugh, just you watch. >>107972414>mostImagine how many shitty Koikatsu/MMD renders/videos were lost...
>>107972461I hope this upgrade didn't cost you more than $150.
>>107972465it's going to cost more but the 7900XT isn't holding it's value (thanks AMD)
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/26/nvidia-set-to-supplant-apple-as-tsmcs-largest-customer.htmlNVIDIA WON
>>107972461ok i'll bite, why the downgrade?
>>107972236>2025+1>still supporting zogyikes. even american AI shenanigans killed this hobby
>>107972462iirc the public dataset is up to july 2025 complete with all private and unlisted videos, not sure if that's the one they will restore from.but images were all lost.
>>1079724767900XT probably won't be getting FSR 4 anytime soon and I want to make sure that I get enough performance at 1440 ultra going forward even if I have to use DLSS (no frame gen)
>>107972471Are you using some flavor of Linux?The biggest bitch ass move was not releasing int8 FSR4 for older cards. I'll wait to upgrade my 7900XT until next gen, because it's not worth it unless I would buy 5090.>inb4 there will be no next gen
>>107972488there's barely any difference between the twoyou should have gone full retard and boughted the 5080 to at least have enough of a performance difference to bother upgrading
>>107972495not using Lincucks just yet but I feel like I probably will within the next couple years when i inevitably upgrade again and hopefully the RX10080XT is a great card enough for me to go back to AMD.>>107972506it's 10-15% in raster and much much more in RT without DLSS being taken into account, it should be enough to last me into the next gen.
right time to sell a used gpu? or not?
>65" LG 2025 OLED C5 and a PS5 Proor>Gaming PCwhat do
if temps with ddr5 are a problem why would they design gpus like that? was it done to just make us suffer? what is the deal here?
>>107972670pcs were never meant to have dgpusnvidia's gpus are basically parasiting off of ibm/intel's pcs
>>107972670not an issue with proper air flow
>>107971006>Just trust A-LIE
>>107971988Could try overclocking to bring the timings down a little
>>107972707the hot air moves right above the ram. it's a stupid design.
>>107972707>t. nvidia engineer
>>107972670Nvidia GPUs are for datacenters where they have extremely loud and large cooling solutions for everything compared to a home nigga. Server RAM also has super slow speed for stability.
>>107972720if the air in your case is hot you have shit airflow. you think it makes a different if the gpu vents trough the backplate or sideways?
>Ryzen 5 9600x>RTX 4070 Super>32 GB CL30 ddr5 ram>2TB NVME>1080 monitorKINO
>>107972670the ATX form factor was designed when PSUs only needed 300w
>>107972670The real problem are those plastic "heat sinks" on DIMMs with shitty thermal pads, those often act like isolators.If you have AIO you are more likely to need additional air flow.This is also why I test RAM stability with some GPU heat-load in the background, sometimes slightly higher temps will be enough to make the system unstable.Or you can just use JEDEC spec and cook your RAM without any issues.
>>107972734well it is THE hot air from your gpu. like half of it. going right over your ram. that doesn't like being past 50c. yeah it is still a stupid design.
>>107972752on a standard board partner card, half the blast is directed towards the pcie slot, heats up the mainboard ground plane which heats up everything, CPU, VRM, M2, DRAM.this nu design allows the exhaust air to mix with fresh air (at least on a non shit case) before being sucked over the ram by the cpu cooler
>>107972775are we seeing one of those non shit cases in the picture i post (that comes from nvidia directly btw)?
>>107971971>tfw upgraded from 6400cl32 2x48gb to 6000cl26 2x32gb
>>107972789the top fan should be on the same level as the cpu socket>that comes from nvidia directly btwwho caresWho of you niggers even has a case without top fans
>buy msi qdoled monitor>Two promotions currently >Re requiem 70€>100€ steam bonus tooI guess both can be redeemed
>>107972800do no redeem
>>107972798i didn't know that nvidia sold ram heaters. really nice of them.
>>107972823does medication for NDS exist yet?
I had to reseat my m.2 drive. To do this I needed to take off my CPU heatsink, fiddle with a tiny screw and then redo thermal paste and put it all together again. I hate assembling PCs. These cases are too small for my hands.
>>107972831nice design. heating my cpu and my ram. they didn't need it at all you know. but nice of my gpu to do it for them.
>>107972831I'm sure Jensen is going to see this bro
>>107972670There's a reason Arctic was doing those AIO pump fans. It blows air over the vrms and ram and the back of the GPU.
>>107972834thats why im never going back to air memewatercoolers dont block important parts of the motherboard like that
>>107972848yeah they just block your way to get a girlfriend instead.
>>107972858>he doesnt know girls would rather put funny cat gifs on aios that have an lcd over having an ugly block of metalngmi
>>107972848Initially I thought I needed to take out the GPU as well so I unscrewed it, but didn't screw it back in before putting the heatsink on. Then I spent 30 minutes trying to screw in the GPU to the case because my fingers couldn't fit quite well enough and I wasn't strong enough to hold the GPU in place so the screw holes aligned for long enough that I could properly put it in.The upside of air coolers is that the radiator (most important part) is basically as good now as it was 10 years ago.
>>107972749>>107972720>>107972680>>107972670The real issue is the side panel. It's supposed to have a big fan on it that blows air directly on top of the whole motherboard and cooling everything.But nooo. We have to have glass side panels instead. It's like replacing the radiator on your car with a glass panel to show off what's under the hood.
how much slower 14700k is going to be with 4000Mhz ddr4 ramidgaf about gaming performance
>>107972878>wei have all mesh?
>>107972835where do you think a normal gpu vents its air
>>107972878>>107972887my mesh fractal north gets really dusty really quicklyi prefer having that block of glass tbqh
My computers has been turning itself off then immediately turning itself back on. Both times it was during a load screen in two different games. Causes? I plugged it directly into wall instead of power bar. This ain’t happening to other things in the room
>>107972930psu undersized or dying
>>107972878the real issue is people building 1kW "silent" setups lmfao
>>107972948It’s an oversized and I’ve been using it without issue for 7 years.
>>107972975>without issuenot anymore you aren't
>>107972975that means it's not undersized
>>1079729757 years is EOL
>>107972864>girlsthose aren't girls anon and you will never be a woman.
>>107972656>>65" LG 2025 OLED C5just buy a S90D apparently still available in americas for youor a S90F or a S95Fyou are falling for old goyslop WOLED
>>107972594guys?
zen 3 refresh when
I think the following issues could be causing my pc to turn off and turn back on>psu>wall power outlet>power button on case>ssd
>>107973059zen3 refresh happened years ago... on laptops
>>107972930>>107973062massive cpu/memory instability will crash your system the same way too
>>107973071>>107973059It's still in production, and a 5850X3D is a high possibly in the next 2 months, though expect a paper launch and limited stock.
>>107973097more like 6 months if it happens (its not)
>>107973138Nah, it'll be soon. They just want to give the 9800X3D room to sell first, 4-6 weeks after that we'll get a paper launched 5850X3D, potentially even a microcenter exclusive launch, with limited stock coming in waves every 2-3 weeks for the next 6 months.We already know at least 2 motherboard OEMs are doing a fresh run of brand new consumer AM4 boards which would only make sense if there was a he AM4 SKU being launched soon.
>>107972844It honestly does a make a difference compared to AIOs with a screen.
>>107973160>9800X3D9850X3D my autocorrect is too used to the 9800X3D apparently
uh is am5 worth it at all, I live in jungle hell
>>107973160the 5 series doesnt compete with the 9 series in 2026 dram clown world
>>107972108>>107972213IT GOT DOUBLED IN PRICE A FEW HOURS LATER LMAOOO
>>107972085>MSIForced refresh, avoid
>>107973174Not directly, but it does indirectly, and every company staggers product launches, consumer fatigue is a thing.
>>107973176ye cause they are hot items. people could have got a alienware or gigabyte oled for $400 a few days ago but now they are back to $550-600.
>>107973204I saw that deal too but the Alienware was too small for me (26.7 inch) and I'm not sure about the software support.
>>107973208Dell has better support than a lot of these other chink companies. They stepped up after LTT secret shopper.
>>107973138it depends on what they're actually going to release, if its a new sku like a 7850X3D on AM4 or Zen3++* with Vcache it will be six months as they actually spent time and money developing it.if its just the 5800X3D re-released at at vanilla Zen5 pricing, it could be here by April.*[spoiler]Zen3+ with Zen5 style vias to put third gen V-cache under the die[/spoiler]>>107973174no but RDNA5 does
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-300-panther-lake-reviews-are-here-cpu-and-igpu-gains-analyzedINTEL WON
>>107972834Success! My SSD works again, but not because of the reseating. It still didn't work even after that. I had to turn on a BIOS (uefi) setting about nvme and PCI-E. (It's an old Z97 board)What I don't understand is how can unplugging the PC (after it had been properly shut down) cause this one setting to change, because the SSD worked before that. And changing this setting made it work again.
>>107973239was actually just reading these and about to make a shitpost about something something tick tock amd nova lake etcanyway it looks good, hopefully this is a good sign for nvl
>>1079732386 months is too short to develop new silicon. even if they reused the existing IOD and zen4 CCD, they'd still have to debug signalling issues in the cpu substrate and respin it a couple times until its fixedraptorlake was completed in record time (1 year) and look at what happened to it
>>107973258Zen3 Epyc is still in production, I have to imagine that's what they'll be using since they probably have a ton of CCDs that don't quite meet Epyc standards but are fine for consumer chips.
>>107973258>6 months is too short to develop new silicon. even if they reused the existing IOD and zen4 CCD, they'd still have to debug signalling issues in the cpu substrate and respin it a couple times until its fixedthey were working on it before the decision was made that Zen4 wasn't coming to AM4
>>107973239i'm glad intel are actually competing again even if X3D will still be the fastest
>>107973239still won't buy intel.
>>107973322>>107973322>>107973322
>>107970780Illiterate.
>>107971708Cheapest you can now get them for is $960, but most are selling for $1100+