>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2028
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>>107973247
ChatGPT thinks that the reason this happened is that the CMOS battery is getting old. It might not have enough juice to keep all the settings, so settings like nvme to PCI-E setting got reset while the boot order didn't.

Should I swap my CMOS battery? I've never done that before.

>>107973368
can't hurt to give it a go, it should just be a CR2302 or something. a watch battery

>>107973368
i've never swapped one either but looking em up they're stupid cheap so meh why not
looking even more into it there's plenty of people saying they had to do it and it helped whatever issue

>>107973377
>>107973379
Oh yeah, I already have some of the batteries. These days a lot of devices use CR2032s. I'm more worried about mucking something up on the motherboard.

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INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

Had my first boot failure today, kinda scary. Had to boot from a restored optimized bios and it worked, then I went back and changed the important settings back to what I want them to be.

>>107973421
>incel graphics
hehe lmao. like a 970 is faster than any arc gpu in cs2.

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>>107973421
its only just begun
amd will only be 1/4 as fast as intel by the time they replace rdna3.5 with rdna5/6 in 2029

you guys said panther lake was good, then why is intel stock melting 20%?

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>>107973437

>>107973427
At least you solved it. Normies would be posting on Reddit how their 9800x3d just died.

>>107973440
ram situation killing hardware demand for products with intel chips in them

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>>107973322
Im really glad i give in to buy RTX 5070 ti
You guys are alright.

>>107973421
amd was already getting bootyblasted in mobile. unfortunately (for intel) their real battle there is against apple and i don't see this making a dent

>>107973437
nobody needs anything faster than ps5 gpu and its pretty much a rdna2 igpu

>>107973455
What's with the 5070ti shilling today? What happened?

>>107973455
do people like this not follow the hardware news at alll or why do they need to be told "this gonna be wack yo" when it comes to hardware trends

>>107973464
there is a need to cope about buying a 70 class gpu for 800 bucks.

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>>107973322
Im really glad i didn't give in to buy RTX 5070 ti
You guys are alright.

>>107973464
they go for $1000+ now

Can any of you 5070 ti owners post your timespy or steel nomad score? its free on steam. im just curious what graphics score you get with todays drivers.

>>107973455
>>107973482
Duality of man

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How do I stress test OR make sure my hard drives aren't a lemon before the Amazon return window is up in a week? Bath tub curve etc.

A full zero format??

Please advise. Also, it's a hard drive, not an SSD, since some anon last thread was obviously too sleepy to read.

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another generation filled with scheduling errors and terrible performance, yikes, they should just make gpus from now on

>>107973421
Does anyone use APUs for gayming?

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>>107973483
So this is not a good price now? How much was it a month ago?

>>107973521
rdna 3.5 apus probably do 60 fps 1080p on any game, intel probably even better but they don't make apus

>>107973521
PS5,Xbox,Steam Deck, Laptops, etc.

>>107973523
People were getting these at Walmart for $650-750.

>>107973521
they are good enough for media decoding but not much else.

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If you were forced to choose between totally really original 12vhpwr cable on aliexpress and a local diy cable modder with 1000+ sales and 5.00 rating who would you pick?

>>107973543
including consoles in this makes the brand shilling even more retarded, since all of those use AMD already and the next gen releases will too

>>107973574
All AMD has to do is release PS5 class APU for PC and Intel or Nvidia can't do shit.

>>107973565
I'd rater not use 12vhpwr, thanks

>>107973518
ok now do amd
lol

Guys, why don't we manufacture our own RAM? You don't need those super processes that TSMC uses, so how hard can it be?

>>107973464
They're just nice GPUs.

>>107973592
china is on it

>>107973514
If the drive has a warranty I wouldn't bother. Especially on a larger drive that could take days to test.

>>107973592
How about we just take over the Netherlands, then we own all the lithography tech and can make our own hardware. It's about the size of Chicago, how hard can it be?

>>107973565
i would buy 5 ali express and check them with my totally not chink mohm meter

>>107973584
they already did with Strix Halo, it could technically fit on AM5. 40CUs of RDNA 3.5
they did it to compete with Apple M-silicon, not with Intel and Nvidia.

>>107973592
If you bought faulty DDR5 sticks, with a little know how you could remove the modules that don't function and replace them with functional modules

>>107973607
It's a 10TB
My first one that's above 6TB
I just don't want it to shit the bed right away
But I did buy two so I have a mirror / backup, it hurt my wallet but I'd rather not lose 10TB of 20 years of data

>>107973565
I would never ever use a 12vhpwr cable that is not made by the same brand as my psu

how expensive are the panther lake laptop after all? it's just such a terrible time to launch any pc product right now I expect everything that launches this year to be a massive failure

>>107973440
Because I bought Intel stock Friday, fuck me

Is there actually any point to those X3D chips beyond marginal improvement to things the base chips already do well?

>>107973773
What a dumb question when you have Google and numerous articles and benchmarks.

>>107973322
can mismatching sets of ram (2 pairs) cause the pc to just freeze till I force shut down by holding down power button?
3200mhz+3600mhz sets ran at 2333mhz
5800x + 570x tomahawk wifi

>>107973802
Ah yes. Let AI tell me what articles written by AI think.

>>107973523
a month ago it was 750 (maybe i wasn't paying attention)
two months ago, on black friday (actually like a couple days before, it was 650 at walmart but it went back up to 750 very quickly)

>>107973862
If you haven't seen a single X3D article before AI then have you been under a rock? You're being a real basic bitch asking to be spoonfed not even a semantic topic, it's clear cut. Visit AMD.com if you are even that silly.
Hint: look up benchmarks you dumb fuck

>>107973862
>Let AI tell me what articles written by AI think.
all my pcbg replies are also generated by AI

>>107973322
>Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)
what i should do then, don't buy am5? there are processors burned reported
>On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory
i guess you are talking about 14th generation

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>>107973773
If you want a locked 120fps at 4k you need X3D

>>107974000
There have been like 200 documented issues out of tens of thousands of units sold.

Stop being a retard.

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>she/her bought nvidia for cuda

I want to upgrade my 5700x, it's am4
if I understand it correctly the only worthwhile possible upgrade would be an am5 cpu?
so I have to buy an am5 motherboard as well? which means I also have to buy DDR5 ram?
these fucking jews

>>107974052
wait for the am4 refresh cpus
maybe buy 32gb ddr4 if you can

>>107974056
>maybe buy 32gb ddr4 if you can
already have that
you're telling me there's an am4 cpu that can rival the 9800?

>>107974084
9800x3d + 32gb ddr 5 ram costs >1k €

>>107974084
No but 5850x3d is expected soon.

>>107974093
yeah that's why I'm not upgrading to am5

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Are there any issues with Deepcool CH160 Plus case?

Is it good? Thermals?

>>107974027
without x3d amd chips are kinda bad huh

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This kit hasn't go up by much, it was 150US before the crisis

>>107974162
nah. intel cpus before the move to tsmc were retarded with how many watts they required to match amd

>>107974138
had i gone for that case i'd tell you but i went with the ch260 instead to fit my 9070 xt better. would be better if your psu's cables are braided for better routing either way since there's considerably less space to work with there inside

>>107974162
The 9700X is a 65W CPU, a third of the 14900K

>>107974162
they are more efficient than intel under load and properly support avx512

Would any Astralnon here happen to still have the v1.9.2.4 installer for GPU Tweak III? I believe that's the only one that features the sag detection they immediately removed again shortly after. It doesn't appear to be on archive.org.

>>107974162
chiplets are kinda bad in general

>>107974236
Doesn't the latest version add this feature again?

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Are there any *bootable* swappable SATA trays? I don't care if it's hot swappable, I would only cold swap.

>>107974347
Are there any non-bootable? sata is sata.

>>107974347
?

>>107974314
Oh shit, that's one hell of a coincidence. I just checked it and you're right, it came out just today. Thank you!

>>107974263
chiplets are the future. its just still in the early stages, they only became a thing 8 years ago when everything else prior was monolithic.

>>107974138
Make sure your graphics card will fit

will I have le degradation if I buy an i5 14400 and put it on an h610?
or is that old news?

>>107974364
>>107974369
None of them say they're bootable. It's not unreasonable that the controller that makes them hot swappable could interfere with using them as a boot drive. For example, I have a USB SATA enclosure that prevents smartmontools from working.

I like computers!

>>107974510
>He doesn't read OP
>He doesn't mention if it's going to be used or new
>He doesn't mention motherboard or bios version
NGMI

>>107974514
I mean, I'm assuming there's some kind of controller board. Is SATA naturally hot swappable?

>>107974514
Bother the vast majority of hot swap bays are just a straight connection to the motherboard. Sata hot swap is a motherboard setting (must be toggled on) supported by basically all mobos. Hell you dont even need the hot swap bay and manually plugging them in works

>>107974519
kek, all new parts msi board I'll will update it to the latest bios of course

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Waitfags really can't stop losing

>>107973858
Shouldn't be a problem at 2333 even with the shittiest imc.

>>107974514
they have no controller afaik, it's just connecting them to whatever sata port you plug them in and doesn't care whether the system actually supports hot swapping

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RDNA5 is less than a year.

>>107974552
uhmm that's actually cheap

>>107974539
Holy shit, I that's two things I learned on 4chuds today. Thanks, anons.

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>bought an i9-9900k and Corsair H150i Pro 360mm AiO in 2018 when they first released
>Haven't changed the thermal paste once
>Have even transplanted the entire build into a new case wtithout removing the cooler and re-applying paste
>CPU idles at mid 30's C and maxes at 75C for gaming
I'm sure it's fine

amd is getting trashed by the hardware nerds community, which means they'll initiate the MLID+HU protocol soon and shill a product that will make everyone happy like the 7800x3d and the 7950x3d on AM4

QD-OLED QD-OLED QD-OLED QD-OLED
QUANTUM DOTS
QUANTUM DOTS
QUANTUM DOTS

>>107974587
>amd is getting trashed by the hardware nerds community
Well there is no alternative to AMD CPU's right now, Nova-lake can't release soon enough, also the current RAM prices will make changing platforms more expensive.

>>107974552
Where is this?

>>107974587
if AMD releases a newer architecture 3D CPU for AM4 this late in the game, I'd piss myself in happiness. I have a top of the line X370 board sitting in storage because the 1800X it has is too shit for modern anything and I was late to buying a 5800X3D. As is my current system has one of the best 2x16GB kit of DDR4 that was available

>>107974571
We already know from the Sony video that PS6 is dropping in 2028. UDNA will be out by then for PC.

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>>107974592
QUANTUM ENHANCER

>>107974602
no one is going to upgrade until the ram shortage ends, no one is going to buy zen 6 or nova lake, they are both doa in current market conditions

>>107974642
yeah imagine if they finally manage to invent a hdr brightness setting that increases brightness when you set it to max

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>>107974552
nvidia owners keep getting scammed

>>107974666
Zen 6 has the advantage that current Zen 5 customers can upgrade to it, nova-lake is truly doa

>>107974687
normal people don't upgrade cpu-only every 2 years, it's a MLID meme

>>107974699
Someone on a 7800X3D could slot a 10800X3D on the same MB, not with Intel, is that simple.

>>107974717
that's a 2 generations jump, that's much more reasonable

>>107974717
great idea, you could also get an iphone 18 to replace your iphone 16

>>107973322
I miss the ugly and mismatched colored PCBs of old, a PCB should not be sterile white/black

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Hmmm

>>107974798
8gb card and intel processor, that's why it's cheap, you're paying 1200 for 32gb ram and 1tb ssd

Ready to wake up from this nightmare and be back in 2017 when I'm about to pop in my 1080 Ti I just bought at msrp ($700)

>>107974571
Doubt, they won't launch before nV.

>>107974816
sure, but even so, 8GB 5060Tis are $300-350, a 265 isn't a 9700X or 9800X3D, but it's still solid, and sells for $250-350, paired with probably a $150 motherboard.

So that alone is ~$600-700 of "value" before you get into the 2x16GB of RAM ($300-400), and the 1TB SSD ($150-300 depending on speed).

It's well worth the $1200 price as long as you only plan to do 1080p60/120 gaming at most for the next few years.

If you have a 32" monitor do you dual monitor?

>>107974850
sure, even better if you buy another gpu and sell that one a few months later for higher price

>>107974851
I have a 41.5" (2160p) and a 27" (1440p) dual montior setup.

Despite being different size, they're within ~5 pixels per inch, so they visually look nearly the same since their pixels are almost the same size and density.

https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.1/

Post score & specs

>>107974896
Speedometer 3 General Instructions
To get reasonably accurate results your device and browser need to be focused on the benchmark. Here are some basic instructions to allow that:

Ensure you are running the latest stable browser version.
Prefer using a separate clean browser profile — extensions and non-default browser settings can have a large impact on the score.
Don't run any programs in the background.
Restart the browser and close all other tabs and windows.
Keep the Speedometer page focused and do not interact with the device while running the benchmark.
Keep your battery-powered device plugged into a charger.
Some devices might need time to cool down between consecutive runs.

ain't nobody got time for that

>>107974932
So? Same procedure as 3Dmark.

>>107974951
Then just post 3Dmark results, since those can be validated and are much more useful than a basic bitch "browser speedtest" which has 10x more factors that can't be accounted for (unlike 3Dmark).

>>107974896
>apple bench shit
Same as geekbench, useless.

BWOS MY PACKAGE IS STUCK IN TEXAS WHY CAN'T IT JUST WARM UP THERE SO THE TRUCKS CAN LEAVE

>>107974592
Quantum
Dots
Electro
Luminiscence

Becauee "LED vs QLED vs OLED" was not confusing enough

>>107974966
>>107974974
I fail to see the problem here. You guys are making things difficult yourselves.

>>107975007
>You guys are making things difficult yourselves
Not really.

I already have 3Dmark results I can post.

I'm not going to bother running that shitty "browser" test right now since I have a game open, 4k youtube playing, and a bunch of torrents running and the results would be worthless to show the actual performance my system is capable of.

>>107975007
Your benchmark is useless and favors synthetic shit useless in the real world.

>>107974932
>please disable all privacy and blocker features and trust the benchmark app
nice try

>>107974699
>>107974744
Zen 7 is coming to AM5 too in 2028/2029. Stop coping that you bought into a bad value jewtel scam socket, it's no one elses fault but your own.

>you dont need 16Gb vram

fuck all the new games I tried on the new gpu ate 14Gb

>>107975089
you know how the billion dollar games like gta6 and witcher 4 primarily target ps5

all game publishers are aware and will optimize for lower ram hardware

>>107975104
>will optimize for console and leave pc to fix it themselves
ftfy

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>Lisa Su, where AM4 X3D???

>>107974585
if it ain't broke...

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>>107975116
lmao AM4 cpus are awful if not for ddr5 crisis no one would even consider them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Au9Lb5Kw4

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>>107974621
>scalped day0 by discords bots

>Paid a bit over £5k in total for build at start of December
>Plug same parts into pcpartpicker
>It's now over £7.6k
Kill all AIfags

>>107975134
I WILL buy your 32gb DDR5 kit for 100pops (generous offer) once artificial shitflation pops and you WILL be thankful

>>107975134
who the fuck uses 1080p these days
I'm at 4k 240hz all day long, always bottlenecked by my 5000
I could probably use a 3600x and not notice a difference

>>107974533

some motherboards have bios option for sata hot swap bay might be just 5,25 adapter with passtrough

>>107975177
If you use dlss performance mode then this benchmark becomes more relevant.

>>107975198
if I use dlss performance I'm at 240fps and more anyway

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>>107975204
>game becomes oily blurry shit
>but its 500 fps

>>107974850
Yes and no. There's games like Indiana Jones and Hellblade II that a 4060 could handle at 1080p High/Ultra but you have to set to Low anyway because of the 8Gb VRAM alone. Time will tell if these games are the exception or the new normal.

>>107975236
>2023

>>107975134
>5700x3d is 75% the performance of a 9800x3d for 40% of the price, probably closer to 20% when you factor in mobo and RAM
Holy shit, I thought it was good, but not that good. 5700x3d for $180 was a great deal last year. Glad I got one.

>>107974686
>bought 5070 ti for $750
>y-y-you were sc-sc-sc-scammed

does anyone have a good link that shows the benefits of big l3 cache pools on server or networking workloads?

really tempted to pick up a 9070xt to replace my 6800xt

>>107975274
You wouldn’t have to do that if AMD would give Redstone and FSR4 to your RDNA 2 card. Keep that in mind when you have to replace the 9070xt for the same reason in 2 years.

>>107975237
Hellblade II doesn't have any substantial problems with VRAM during gameplay. Runs fine on 8 GB cards if you don't mind low input resolution for DLSS, as most 8 GB cards aren't strong enough to play the game even at 1080p High at full resolution

You are also misinformed about Indiana Jones and how idtech uses texture cache. You must set the texture cache manually to tell the game how much VRAM you have

>>107975287
what's redstone?

>>107975274
Don't do it. Just cope with the fsr4 int8 mod until RDNA 5

>>107975134
>150 fps is considered awful on a 60fps screen
grim

>>107975274
Stockholm syndrome

>>107975089
>unused ram is wasted ram
Learn what this statement means and then reconsider your previous statement

>>107975294
AMD’s latest suite of GPU software features meant to compete with Nvidia. Basically exclusive to RDNA4 to the chagrin of many customers.

I'm currently still using a 24inch 1080p 60hz IPS panel, just a budget one I picked up like 8 years ago. I'd like to step up to 27inch 1440p and something over 120hz, though it seems like every panel being sold right now beats that refresh rate. my usage is split something like 60 work/browsing and 40% gaming/movies. I mostly play singleplayer rpg's and 4x games, so nothing that requires the absolute best response times. I'll pretty much always be using it in a bright/semi-bright room, never in the dark.

Is oled still the way to go? It seems to be default recommendation everywhere, but there's a couple of things that kinda scare me off.
>Supposedly oled have text fringing, especially at 1440p? I'll be browsing on it and my games have a lot of text, so is this still a thing?
>I've read several reviews that mention flickering? I've been using IPS up until now so I'm not sure if those also have it, but I don't think I've experienced it before
>Oled in general apparently don't get very bright? Though I'm using my current monitor at like 30% brightness and it's plenty bright for me, no idea how that compares
>How much do modern panels need to be babied to prevent burn-in? I'm in the habit of just leaving my monitor on displaying whatever currently. I could start hiding the taskbar and using screensavers and what have you. But I do expect my stuff to last a good couple of years, so if forgetting to do the proper steps a couple of times leads to damage, I'm not really enamored by that

I suppose there's also those mini-led panels with 1000-1100 something zones. But reviews seem pretty split on whether those work as advertised or have constant issues.

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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>107975314
>Is oled still the way to go?
Yes, 32" 240 Hz 4K. The only reason to get a 1440p OLED is if you're waiting for a Pulsar equivalent tech to make it to OLEDs, meaning your 1440p monitor is just a stop game. If you expect to keep your monitor for a long time (8 years), go straight to 4K

>njeetia's obsessing with fake frames, again
9070xt is the best cost-benefit card of the last 5 years

>>107975314
Get an IPS that supports Nvidia’s new pulsar tech, everything else is quickly going to be irrelevant.

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https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-intel-arc-pro-b65-and-b70-both-feature-32gb-memory-with-20-to-32-xe2-cores-configurations

INTEL WON

>>107975329
>>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
I am on Linux and planning to switch my 5800X for Nova-Lake, already running a 9070 XT

>>107975346
This is what Radeon proponents have been saying every generation, and it hasn't been true yet

>>107975089
>>107975134
It's not a matter of bottleneck, but having your needs met. What people must understand and ACCEPT is that there will ALWAYS be something bottlenecking your performance. Always. What matters is if you achieve your goals with your computer parts. That's it.

>pay 800 bucks for a 5070Ti
>still just playing RPGM eroges that would run just fine on a toaster
Why the fuck did I buy this thing, everything ran just fine on my 3070.

>>107975388
I don’t feel like anyone has been saying that for 5 years, everyone knows that AMD’s GPUs since the rx480 have been complete shit up until now. That’s why everyone was so excited, the 9070xt is legitimately the best value card in a long time, if only we could trust AMD to support it long term.

>>107974371
I checked it now myself. It's not the same as previously and you have to calibrate it. I used a water level to adjust mine so it was green by default but I wonder if the calibration is considered zero so if it's already sacking it wouldn't notice you.

>>107975346
yeah yeah how about lisa gets her chinky ass of the couch and actually starts supporting image gen?
I don't give a fuck about fake frames but you can't even support simple image generation???

>>107975416
Simple image gen is built into the AMD chat feature of the driver package.

AMD's legacy Ryzen 7 5800X3D chips now sell for up to $800, more than a new 9800X3D — AM4 chip costs twice as much as MSRP, as enthusiasts flock to old DDR4 memory

>>107975409
I bought a steam deck purely as my hgame machine

>>107975431
yup, and people don't believe in the new x3d am4 chips magic, AMD is sitting on a pile of money, those chips are going to sell far more than the 9850x3d or zen 6 at the end of the year

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>>107975409
Welcome to the FOMO Panic buying CLUB

swiched from 4060 to 5070

>>107975431
Secure your DDR4 RAM and wait for the 5850X3D release next month or the month after.

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>>107975431
>Ryzen 7 5800X3D chips now sell for up to $800
it took me about 20 seconds to fire up ebay and go to sold listings and see these only selling for around $400 on average. What's the point of lying? Just to discredit your shitty buzzfeed tier website?

>>107975431
IDK whey everyone pretends that people actually purchase the overinflated shit.
And lol at "flocking" as if CPUs and RAM are a monthly purchase
AM4 isn't even a good platform for ddr4

>>107975450
already did
https://www.xda-developers.com/ryzen-5800x3d-outsold-any-am5-cpu-over-the-holidays-ddr4-problem/

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>>107975461
To be fair, even at $400 that's wild considering a 7800X3D and 9800X3D can be had for similar or less.

>>107975461
UP TO

>>107975464
7800x3d on am4 is going to sell far more because everyone who bought the 5800x3d will upgrade

>>107975463
It’s the best platform for ddr4 for gaming, period the end. X3d doesn’t even give a shit about ram speed anyways.

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can someone smart educate me on this, thanks
my psu didn't have a cable for my 5070ti but there was an adapter in the box
it has 2 slots for an 8pin cable each just like my 3080 had and the other end fit into the 5070, it has 12 pins
I read that this means it can carry 300W, 150W times two, max over time with being able to handle peaks of over 300W
when I play fully maxed out the 5070ti hovers just under 280W but has peaks of over 300W, see pic related
I want to OC this card which means it will probably go over 300W as a baseline in some games? can this fry the card with the adapter only being rated for 2x150W?

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>>107975412
Opposite, i think the 9070 XT is the worst card $600+ since RDNA1, people are just coping really hard and downplaying how much behind the software stack is really behind, i'll give it a year until UDNA and the PS6 start releasing games with forced pathtracing+frame generation and people will lose their mind about the frame pacing issues rdna 4 has.

>>107975416
The latest driver literally has an AI bundle that automatically sets up comfyui, rocm, and everything for you. Update yourself on the latest news before shitposting here

>>107975461
$400 is too damn much still
But yeah this shit is quite literally all a game like Pokémon cards

>>107975477
americans and their bundles
another thing to envy them

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>>107975478
where's the proof? I guarantee some retarded faggots are listing for $800+ but that's not the same as it actually "selling for" $800+.

>>107975430
only in simple settings(aka no facefix nor loras).
the 24gb are pretty fucking worthless since it loses against even fucking 8 gb models above 1080p.
Lisa needs to whip her worthless drivers and support team into shape

>>107975494
the highest 5070ti can go up to is 360w. some are capped even lower through bios.

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>>107975497
>people will lose their mind about the frame pacing issues rdna 4 has.
It's actually shartwell that has bad frame pacing on many games

>>107975497
That’s pretty insane, RDNA1 couldn’t compete at all and you think their most competitive card in a decade is worse than that? Opinion discarded.

>>107975486
You can run intel 14th gen in ddr4

>>107975513
Nvidia has flip mettering tech, and amd doesn't Tim shows how dogshit redstone is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpAZF_-qsI8

>>107975511
>360w
which is above the 300W of this adapter?

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>>107975516
the 9070 XT cant compete with a 4080 anon, if we match image quality it loses to a 4070 TI, back then at least upscaling was dogshit compared to today standards and the market share reflects that

some dude here said he had "failure to boot", it's all thanks to microslop
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/windows/microsoft-reports-an-issue-in-which-devices-are-failing-to-boot-after-downloading-the-latest-update/

>>107975412
You must be new here
It's true that RDNA1 - 3 were unbuyable, but the usual suspects still hailed them as saviors
Having said that, RDNA4 isn't really that bad, still nothing close to "best cost-benefit card of the last five years". Arguably the 2060, 2060 Super, and 4070 were amazing if street value is the cost metric, with a large number of Nvidia cards still above Radeon's best card in many generations, the 9070 XT

>if only we could trust AMD to support it long term
A risk, time will tell. At the same time, I never expected RDNA1 or 2 to get ML upscaling, and the people who bought them claimed they didn't want ML upscaling anyway, so no harm no foul IMO. RDNA 3 has WMMA cores, so I was surprised that it didn't get some form of high quality upscaling, but again the buyers constantly poo-pooed the technology in general, and they bought it with no expectation of said feature. RDNA 4 seems to have the hardware acceleration that AMD's R&D has the budget to target, so personally I expect RNDA 4 to be supported with new models to certain extent. FSR 4 is actually usable, so game library support aside, the technology is there for implementation in future games, and I expect it to eventually be widely supported (although not as widely supported as DLSS).

Again, "best cost benefit card of the last five years" is already wrong, as DLSS allows cheaper Geforce cards like the 5060 Ti 16 GB to exceed the image quality and smoothness of the 9070 XT.

>>107975517
b-b-but raptor lake explodes all the time. Nevermind that that the 7950x3d had an even higher failure rate than the 14900k in the very same puget systems report that started all the drama. Intel is bad and no one should EVER EVER EVER buy it.
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okay memes aside, the real reason zen 3 x3d is so popular right now is there's just a ton of people on old am4 boards and it's a greatd drop-in upgrade for their aging zen 1/+/2 part. There are not that many people on LGA 1700 in comparison, at least I don't think there is? And even if there are, that means they're on Alder Lake, which is still good, they don't need a drop-in upgrade, and even if they did Raptor Lake kinda ain't a big one unless they specifically need more estrogen cores for encoding/rendering/etc.

>>107975533
150w per 8-pin is the minimum. most psus do more. if you assume the minimum then 150+150 from cables and add 75 from the pcie slot. thats 375w max power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs

You know they have a point

>>107975494
Don't forget the 75 W through the PCIe slot

>>107975533
still WELL within the safe limits of 2x 8-pins. Arguably still too much for Nvidia's shitty 12vhpwr though.

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You know that if all the techtubers didn't trick retards into buying AMD GPU's no one here would been able to get their blackwell GPU's as cheap as we got them, right?

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>>107975555
>after-downloading-the-latest-update/
it still blows my mind that people let their pcs auto update. If it isn't broke don't break it faggots. I did my first update for the first time in 6 months a month ago because i was having some stability issues and that fixed it. Can't see myself updooting again until another issue arises...

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>>107975524
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=LiH7KmQehoPy9bCS&v=XeEkFgTVOtU&feature=youtu.be
AMD has flip metering too so thanks for revealing you don't know fuck all about what you talking about. And turning on vysnc fixes the pacing issues.
RTX 50 series poor 1% lows aren't fixable by the user however and are inherent to the AI coded drivers.

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>>107975581
How could I ever?

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>>107975616
funny how he went to say this on later videos, and anon that is not flip mettering that just lockiong the framerate, so no you cant use framegen with VRR on amd side

>>107975616
post the upload date of that video so we can laugh at you.

>>107975575
At some point tho the price of a mobo+cpu is close enough or even lower than the singular CPU
IDK what goes through the minds of people as I would jump at the opportunity of a new board along with a CPU upgrade.

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>>107973421
Surely Nova Lake and Celestial will save us, Tom Peterson looks confident about it

>>107975497
>the 9070 XT is the worst card $600+ since RDNA1
Please anon, I am Radeon's harshest critic but the RX 6800 XT and RX 7900 XT were obsolete on launch. RX 9070 XT has limited support for its features, but at least it wasn't obsolete from day 1.

>a year until UDNA and the PS6 start releasing games with forced pathtracing+frame generation
9070 XT isn't a future proof card (future proofing is a fool's errand anyway), because the PS6 will likely have similar baseline grunt. So really everyone will be feeling the pressure except 4090 and 5090 owners will be feeling the pressure whenever the crossgen period is over, which will not be for a good three years from the launch of the PS6.

>pathtracing
The basic "can I run the game" RT will be AMD optimized, like the RT in AC: Shadows. The good shit will of course be far better on an Nvidia card

>people will lose their mind
There are a large number of duped Radeon buyers, and yes those people will lose their minds. But not for a few years

>>107975667
aren't they releasing arrow lake refresh first. This shit could be a year or 2 away.

>>107975667
???
isn't the latest and processors a shit ton more efficient?
meanwhile Intel is just releasing i3 mobile shit chips

>>107975687
it's bad intel cope since it will be competing with zen 6 at best, not zen 5. Possibly 6+ or 7 if they are incompetent enough at getting it out the door, which is not unheard of for Intel.

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Intel won

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>>107975716
>mobile processors
this is a thread about desktop pcs
we could not give less of a fuck

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9070 xt $600, unbeatable price to performance
njeetiots will shill getting a worse card that costs 40% more, they deserve that nico guy
9070 xt will age brilliantly because amd cards age like wine on linux, just go look at the 5700xt benchmarks on cachyos
>but muh pathtracing!!!!!!
the 5070ti can't do 60 fps on pathtraced titles either, costing $1000, the 5080 can't either, in fact all lackwell cards will be as obsolete in RT and PT by the next generation just as much as rdna4 will because PT is the future, not the present

>>107975679
They confirmed Nova Lake launches at the end of this year on the financial report they did a week ago

>>107975731
You forgot to say that DLSS is a blurry mess, now to be fair you have to be a special kind of retard to replacea 4070 with a 9070 XT

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>>107975731
man that game is total ass, just play world instead.
post the 5 year old ratchet & clank graph instead.
at least that game has a gorgeous furry waifu who is built for big white human COCK.

>>107975408
This. If your screen refreshes at 120hz and your CPU bottlenecks your GPU by stopping it to go above 200fps it was never a problem to begin with because the real bottleneck is your screen capping you at 120.

>>107975687

yes but they serve slightly different userbase that might othervise use legacy gear

>>107975731
Uh oh, nicotroon melty!

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>>107975741
I'm not dishonest, nvidia is ahead in image upscaling, I don't care for those because I don't play triple a games, fsr4 does it's job well, but dlss does it better, but you have to squint all day to notice unless you boot up a game to stare at wall textures and foliage all day

Stop replying to the Nicojeet spammer.

>>107975731
Why did you post one of the most broken games launched last year

>>107975779
this review was done in december 8th, 2025

>>107975788
And the game is still broken (CPU and VRAM problems), trash tier graphics with terrible performance relative to the visuals on display
https://youtu.be/uf5cICpDXX0?si=DkLvqfeRO1W4taU3

>>107975588
>>107975579
so, do I trust this adapter or buy a 2025 psu?

>>107974164
Modern g.skill trident are pretty shit worst heatsink design of any ram stick I've seen and they cheap out and don't put any thermal interface on the PMIC and only tape on the memory. Had to return 2 because they cooked themselves. I would also avoid RGB for ddr5 because it runs quite hot and the diffuser traps more heat. If you must get g.skill get the flare/ripjaw design, the heatsink is superior.

Also it could be cheap because it has high latency or high voltage. Can't tell without seeing whole listing.

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>5080
>$1500
>can't do 40 fps path traced at 1440p
>5090
>$3000
>can't do 40 fps path traced at 4k
verdict: njeetiots (now silent) paid big bucks to get unplayable shitty path traced results, while 9070xt chads paid $600 for a native 1440p card with 4k60 fsr4, it's the best bang for your buck card since the 3060 12gb

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Can anons redpill me on maxsun? Anyone actually have a maxsun board? Are they worthy of shekels spent?

>>107975767
I'm happy you can enjoy your card anon, all im gonna say its that the issue is not that nvidia is ahead in image upscaling, the issue is why nvidia is ahead of image upscaling.

>>107975831
It is a 6000CL28 kit, the sweet spot for Ryzen, it does have high voltage, 1,40V

>>107975905
i've been in this general for like the last year, and i've never heard of this brand in my entire life.

Nice aesthetics though, i hope they do well, all mobo manufacturers have serious drawbacks and many outright bad boards, so some real competition would be nice.

>>107975889
We all know the AMD 9070 XT is a the "value" leader ("value" because the current pricing for everything is fucked).

Performance wise is still a midrange card, and DLSS 4.5 is making everyone cream themselves over image quality on the 50 series.

Meh, whatever.

>>107975913
>look up their site
>GPUs feature anime girls on them
I think I've seen some of their GPUs here but never a mainboard

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>>107975913
Honestly I >>107975905 ripped on the maxsun shill when they tried to spam here a while back with pic related from their Amazon page, but the board which the other pic is for claims "All M.2 slots run at full speed" which is intredasting.

>>107975943
>>107975889
Looks like they straight up stole MSI designs
The IO shield and other placements look eerily like MSI

>>107975981
shit quoted the jeet by accident instead of >>107975905

>>107975943
well, i wish them the best of luck, they seem to be trying very hard, the plucky underdog-eaters. May their chinky entrepreneurial spirit bring them to better heights, to the point that i can actually see myself buying their shit.

>>107975981
pretty much all 4 mainstream mobo manufacturers have extremely similar placement these days, its just the most efficient setups for cooling and bus-speeds.

>>107975352
so uh

B65 = Battlemage ... ???
B70 = Battlemage of the Alchemist A770 tier?

btw what are we calling the different 3x3 shapes? I have boot, b-117, amoeba, amogus, figure 8, fish, sd card.

>>107975981
All these niggas look alike after a while. I wish I had the budget to just build up a maxsun board for the lulz but I boughted stuff during the rampocalypse so I'm /poor/ now.

>>107975352
AAAA MY B60 HAS NOT EVEN SHIPPED
real talk though I kinda wonder what the MSRP will be

Saw a 4070 Super at okay price on FB marketplace. Is the 4xxx serie expected to rise in price too or can I let this one slide and get the same/better deal at a more convenient time later on this year?

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>>107976088
All prices are rising. No one can tell you what the free market for used crap will do.

What is an "OK" price?

>>107975813
please help

>>107976101
you have 375w of power to play with using your adapter with 2 8-pins. if you want more then plug in more or get a real 12vhpwr psu but you are still bios limited to 360w.

>>107976099
450€.

>>107974027
Shit chart, run it in Vulkan which is the release they actually optimize.

>>107976099
>No one can tell you what the free market for used crap will do.
The AI thing is adhered to by an investment death cult that will try to keep their sunk cost piggy going as hard as possible because the moment it comes down heads will roll and they'll have to realize the loss of trillions of dollars. They will sacrifice the entire global economy and every human being on the planet to keep their insane bullshit going, and the best thing to do would probably be to forcibly remove them from power by way of a series of revolutions.

>>107975767
>>107975889
>9070xt
A laptop can outperform amd's consumer graphics offering?

>>107976105
man I don't want to "cable-manage" my entire case again if I replace the PSU
I think I'll just say fuck it and risk it

>>107975912
At that price I would get it but I would replace the heatsink, or even take it off, and put a fan over it. Better than the stock trident heataink

>>107976123
Buy it and enjoy the lulz, I have a 4070S in my old system, the only reason I got a 5070 was to keep the old system intact.

>>107976132
Ahhhh ... yep. Sure. Maybe get your levels checked or something.

The 5060 and Ti versions are the best8gb versions currently right? Or would a 3070 outrank it still?
>why the fuck are you thinking about 8gb?
cuz the situation ain't gonna get better dude. We might as well add rec 8gb card into the op cuz no one is gonna come save newbie gamers.

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>>107975889
>pretending the 9070 xt is 1440p native
>pretending the native is actually good looking and that it's not worse looking that dlss quality
>implying more than a couple bots got a 9070 xt for $600 and that they're still available at that price
>not understanding that 1080p is the relevant resolution for PT (4K Performance)
>ignoring fg

5070 ti is usable with heavy RT loads at 4K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nDc8T95RMw&t=1340s (full rt med just lacks water caustics in terms of feature set)
I'm not arguing that the 5070 Ti is a good PT card, because it's not, but the 5070 Ti will certainly be better for PS6 games than the 9070 XT simply because the 5070 Ti is better at RT and next gen games will be relying more heavily on RT. Again, not that the 5070 Ti is in any way future proof, but it's also lot better than the 9070 XT for current games where upscaling/reconstruction is required by default and RT is available

>>107976132
Once the tech giants start trying to strong arm local governments things will crash. Same shit happened to enron when they actually took to the market and started fucking with people on a real world basis. Nobody cares about dumb shit that happens in a computerscreen but the moment the local commissioner starts fucking with the guy down the street because silicon valley promised him a yacht if he delt with the problem they had in some backwater southern town it will fall like gensing.

I love my 5090 and OLED.

>>pretending the native is actually good looking and that it's not worse looking that dlss quality

>>107976194
>pretending the native is actually good looking and that it's not worse looking that dlss quality

why do AI pedophiles thinks normal people like their shitty smear?

>>107976204
DLSS is witchcraft. I am even amazed at frame gen.

>>107976200
Except that politicians are more blank check than ever in 2026 and the fucking around will be a demand from tech companies that the US invade China.

>>107976210
>why do AI pedophiles thinks
saar...

>>107976210
Post PC. You've never even used DLSS.

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>>107976132
>>107976200
>>107976215
off to /pol/ with your schizo ranting, this is /pcbg/.

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>>107976228
Gib ram pls.

>>107976222
>never even used DLSS
I have it and don't use it, not everyone is a /gaymer/.

>>107976228
Okay. Let me translate everything into an easily digestible thing for /pcbg/. That means prices will continue to go up for a long time, year on year, with no relief.

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>>107976253

>>107976204
>>107976210
Full resolution TAA is generally worse looking than DLSS 4 Quality, especially at high resolution like 4K. In fact 4K Performance is usually as good or better than full res 4K TAA.

>inb4 just don't use taa
Not using temporal AA is impossible in current games that are relevant to the discussion
https://youtu.be/nAhvWWbraaY?t=38

>>107976261
What about dlaa?

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I did not upgrade from my 2022 $750 RTX 3060 Ti 8GB.

>>107976261
You know you can turn them off, right? if you turn DLSS off then the 9070 XT is the better card

>>107976241
Maybe you should try it. Also you use punctuation, so you aren't the retard I was talking to. You can still post PC.

>>107976280
My favorite strategy to shill Radeon is to artificially gimp Geforce and generally lower the bar to make Radeon seem competitive

>>107976282
>you should try it.
Should but since not a /gaymer/ IDK what might be fun, would have to learn something new. Any suggestions for an easy /gayme/ with excellent boob-jiggling physics where I can larp as a pillaging Viking, sailing the seas, pillaging, collecting slaves etc.?

>Also you use punctuation
Not always. Depends on the degree of sobriety/levels of schizoid I am experiencing at the moment.

>>107976189
Please answer this. 10gb+ cards ain't gonna last, I am sure by mid 2026 any of those cards are gonna run out and people are gonna start asking what to buy and most of it will be rare.
It would be like having am4 x3d recs in the op despite those not existing anymore .

My job is letting me buy a de-commissioned rendering rig from them because they're upgrading. They get like 3 of these machines built every 3-5 years. 2 of them are already promised to other people. The 3rd one was going to get posted in an online auction but they decided to ask in house first.
>Threadripper Pro 3995WX 64c128t with dedicated custom liquid 360mm loop for CPU only
>2x RTX 8000 GPUs (the line that replaced the Quadro cards, 48GB each) - Both air cooled.
>512GB DDR4 2400 ECC across 8 sticks
They said they'd let me take it off their hands for $1800. No SSDs for company security reasons. I use Linux as my main OS and was just wondering if there's any red flags with this hardware.

>>107975329
>Normie
Opinion disregarded.

>>107976323
>any red flags
Yes, the fact that you haven't already just bought the damn thing. Come back and post pics of it, we love that kind of porn here.

>>107976323
buy it

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>>107976276
every additional year you use it is more VALUE strung out of the card so KEEP USING IT anon UNTIL IT IS A COMPLETELY DOG SHIT EXPERIENCE then the very instant, the very picosecond you decide to upgrade it, china will attack Taiwan or something and you'll be stuck on it for another 5 years.

>>107976311
Almost all new games now have fsr4 now are you stupid or being wilfully ignorant

>>107976323
You should grab it because RAM alone is worth more than that.
If it's all working, don't wait for them to change their minds.

>>107976272
Worth more at lower resolutions like 1080p, but at 4K it's not that useful as you hit substantial diminishing returns. If there's some type of flaw in the upscaler (like moire), usually it presents in DLAA as well, although sometimes higher input resolution can help to alleviate some issues. The basic principles in DLSS and DLAA are obviously the same, just with different input resolutions. Maybe with Nvidia's "Recommended" preset in the settings app, it'll dynamically select different models for DLAA, like it does for Performance and Quality now, and you could have some differences in handling of aliasing or something like that, but manually switching the models lets you change that if you want, so theoretically you could use the same model for DLAA and Quality.

Does DDR5 really lose its shit if you use more than 2 sticks of RAM?

>>107975340
Is 8 years a realistic time to expect oleds to last? I was under the impression the better ones give 3 years burn in warranty, and if you're careful with it 5 years is about what you can aim for?
Also, I'm not sure 4K would be a good idea. I've only got a 5600 and 5060ti.
>>107975347
I was under the impression that pulsar is mostly for high framerates for competitive games, or is that wrong? I have 0 interest in playing anything competitive.

>>107976339
>>107976343
>>107976352
OK that's what I figured as well but I figured I'd ask around to see if people have heard news about like 3rd gen threadrippers exploding or something. I don't really keep my ear close to the ground with the latest and greatest because I have a tendency to buy hardware with longevity in mind. For reference, I have a DDR3 based Dual Xeon system and a single Quadro M5000. I can only assume this will be a significant upgrade for me.

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>>107976346
Wow, what a list. NVIDIA is on the ropes.

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My former friend bought an njudea 50 series gpu last year and I haven't talked to them since. I won't be friends with someone who supports child sacrifice to moloch and genocide. That's all.

>>107976346
>Almost all new games now have fsr4 now
First off, that's not proper english
Second off, you can't even say “almost all” when it's not even at 50%.

>>107976346
Support is not universal (can't even workaround in a lot of multiplayer games) and of course DLSS is higher quality than FSR. Additionally FSR FG is currently globally unusable because of frame pacing issues. DLSS FG by contrast has multiFG with dynamic FG coming soon. This doesn't even consider all the older games that have shit or mediocre TAA and are better with DLSS

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>>107976385
Oh so you aren't stupid or being willfully ignorant. You're just a lying shill. Got it.

>>107976361
in my experience it's just a total pain in the ass to get stable, but i don't know if it's a matter of sticks or a matter of ranks. 8 total ranks (4x2dpc such as 128gb or 192gb configs) are just a horror show if you want even a mhz over JEDEC...

>>107976344
>want to upgrade cuz pascal is so damn fast +200% over my 280x
>mining boom hits, fuck around with 100-300$ second hand maxwells/vegas/hawaiiz
>brief window before ampere gives me a chance to buy a 5700xt or 2070s for a good euro price, wait until ampere and panic sell my cards in anticipation
>mining boom hits again, fomo into 3060 ti because rumors say 40 series will have no stock
>fucking wrong and prices crater, forgot late to return so i might as well use the card for all it is worth
>40 series supply dries up and 50 series launches to current prices, wait some more
>gpu prices crater after ssd/ram prices did at the beginning of year along with non x3d cpus
>fuck lol another ai boom after the first
I can already see the pattern.

Is a 9600x and 16gb of RAM good enough as the foundation for a very basic setup?

>>107976400
You can play those games with native or FSR REDSTONE, and they look good, its not like the people with a 9070 XT will be able to use DLSS, they'll be able to tell the RASTER performance and the superior price-to-performance. Making the 9070XT the superior option, is even better than a 5090 when you consider how cheap the frames are.

>>107976450
16gb on windows is doable but not ideal, on linux it's fine

>>107976450
Also, would ASRock or ASUS be better for a generic pack-in combo deal motherboard that Newegg are trying to get rid of?

>>107976410
So why is everyone using optiscaler?

Stop replying to the Nicojeet spammer.

>>107973446
kek

Anon buying the Threadripper build from work here. I messaged them and said I'm in, so the system is mine. I already venmo'd the money over. They confirmed the motherboard make and model and it's the Asus WRX80 Sage something or another as it's one of the few boards that actually fully supports RDIMM ECC and is a proper workstation board. It has 3x M.2 slots and 2x U.2 Slots. What SSDs should I be looking to populate this thing with? From my research, U.2. seems to be a very niche thing for the professional space. I assume they're wildly expensive for the average consumer? Also I don't think PCIe lanes will be a problem. From specs sheets I was reading, I have 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes to work with. Figure 32x lanes for the 2 GPUs, 12 more lanes for the 3x M.2 SSDs, I'm like drowning in lanes.

>>107976454
>is even better than a 5090
Jesus dude. Sipping the Kool-Aid is fine but leave some for the other cultist.

Gigabyte MO27Q28GR
>4th gen woled
>27 inch
>no stupid design with fat bezels, brand logos, huge gayming monitor stands, led strips etc.
>vesa mount
>glossy
>perfect for reading if you use light mode in the software you use, like I do.
Seems perfect for my needs. I hope I'll be able to sell my current monitor before it comes out.

>>107976506
it's crazy the amount of gaudy monitors that exist. Like beautiful from a specs perspective but Christ some hurt to look at. Nice to see some change and companies embracing plain bezels, no RGB cancer, stands with tilt and vertical movement, etc.

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>>107976493
U.2 is pricey, adapt PCI-E lanes into m.2 for all the storage you can dream of.
I wanted to check the mobo manual but pic related.
Those workstation boards can be quirky, I hope you won't have to do too much troubleshooting.

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>>107976494
5080 is best gpu in current gen when you consider watts-per-frame.
You can make up almost any arbitrary category you want where X gpu is the best.

>watts per frame

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>>107976553
it's this one, pic from Google. The machine has been rock solid for them and was actually one of the machines that didn't require constant baby sitting and trouble shooting. Maybe chalk it up to the system have ECC RAM and even the GPUs have ECC VRAM.

I'm noticing an increasing amount of 5090 in stock in various stores.
I guess that the 3.5k-4k price tag is reaching a level where people aren't in a mad rush to buy them anymore, even with a shortage looming over us.
~3k is probably pretty close to the very limits of consumer pain threshold.

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>>107976591
real thing believe it or not
probably doesn't matter unless you live in some kind of communism hell hole like Europe where electricity is ludicrously expensive.

>>107976493
just make sure to undervolt the cpu as much as you can and invest in a case that will make it cool and it shouldn't give you any trouble

>>107976493
Yess the workstation pill. You will be Extremely Pleased.

>>107976581
Yea but you really buy them for performance, and there is only one King. It's not even close.

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>>107976593
I could not possibly be more erect.

>You lucky bastard.

>>107976613
until you encounter something latency sensitive at least

>bought a used tuf gaming OC 3080ti in 2022 for 600
>they're still going for 500 right now
nice

Is upgrading from a 1440p oled to a 4k oled worth it or is it a waste of money?

>>107976608
from the pics it loks like a Fractal Meshify. The front panel is telling. The non windowed version.
>>107976613
I'm hoping this system lasts me a long while
>>107976626
I too get excited when getting wildly powerful hardware in hand

I intend to listen to hyper pop Vocaloid remixes of songs while playing Dwarf Fortress and compiling code all at the same time.

I'll ask here because you guys seem to understand monitor gimmicks fairly well.
Can someone help me understand LFC?
To avoid brightness flickering, I've been fucking around with my monitor EDID. I'm playing with VRR ranges specifically. I'm on AMD. By default my monitor reports the refresh rate properly all the way down to 48hz, which is the lower vertical rate limit (turns out I can't even go down to 46hz, that'll give me blanking issues).
Anyways, when that limit is set to something much higher, like 120hz, anything under 120hz gets doubled or tripled in hz reported by the OSD. If I'm guessing right, that's what LFC is supposed to be. So for some reason, by default, the monitor does not do LFC until I hit 47fps or lower. Am I getting this right?
One benefit I've seen from setting this limit much higher is that indeed, the brightness flickering, even if it's still there, is severely reduced. Hell it's almost gone. But is it detrimental in some other way? Like input latency, stutters, what specifically?
I also noticed that it's just not possible to push the lower limit too far. I'm on 360hz and I cannot set it to 170hz. 160hz is fine though, so the limit must be somewhere in between. Once I try 170hz or higher, VRR just won't work (or at least does not get reported on the OSD which should mean exactly that). I thought I could mitigate further flickering by going crazy and just setting a 240hz-360hz range but that's too ambitious.

>>107974896
I got
25.9

>>107974932
i did nt do anyt of this shit i have 560 tabs and several programs open
and i got impatient and move the mouse around during

was considering moving to w11 because I wanted the +3% more fps than w10 and microslop pushes an update that causes failure to boot, man this product is cooked

>>107976493
>I already venmo'd the money over.
yes thank you saar

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