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UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
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>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
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Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.
*On Raptor Lake microcode is mandatory

>COOLER
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ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
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>RAM
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Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
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High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
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>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8GB
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 9070, 5070, 9060xt 16GB
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k: 9070xt
High-end: 5090
*Exercice caution with 12VHPWR on high end nvidia cards with high power draw.
*5070 ti and 5060 ti 16gb production is paused. Don't buy at current insane prices.

>PSU
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>MONITOR
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4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

>OS
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>CASE FANS
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Is the 12vhpwr safety light on the Zotac Solid 50 series cards a meme?
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>>107997197
No that's a nice feature. Shame that zotac cards are garbage chinesium tier quality and any other partner is better to buy from
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My current PC is starting to shit the bed and I'm long overdue for an upgrade.

Could I get some feedback/opinions/recommendations: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/44sGBq
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>>107997215
Redpill me on the quality of Zotac cards, I was considering buying one at Microcenter since their cheapest offer now shifts to Zotac cards.
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>>107997229
Everything is fine except paying over 1k for a last gen 4070 super. You can get a 9070 XT which is faster than that for way less.
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>>107997229
b850 mobo is standard
5070 or 9070xt are reasonable high end gpus rn
cpu water cooler is perhaps redundant but might reduce noise in some situation as amd tunes the cpu to run hot for no reason
I got same ram and it works fine, it cost 125€ tho
oled monitors should be affordable relatively speaking so get one of those too
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>>107997234
They're passable quality. The hate they attract is disproportionate but the Zotacs I've had have been on the noisier side of that bothers you.
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>>107997197
12vhpwr fear is peak fud and you all are getting milked on (((safety features)))
electricaly its the same as 2x8pin pcie and has identical safety margins up to 300 watt power draw
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>>107997165
>Almost my exact build.
>But with a weaker GPU, RGB RAM and more expensive fans.

Whoever made this should have saved that money to buy a better GPU.
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>>107997272
sorry, *375 watt power draw, as 75 watt are pulled from the PCIe slot
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>>107997234
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=41q5CNRgytI
Everything is just very cheap. They have bad pads and shit so everything runs hotter and noiser than other brands. The experience vex had back in the day with his zotac 3080 is pretty representative I'd say.
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>>107997229
Is there any reason why you picked such garbage parts? Like a pcie 4.0 ssd when the 5.0 option costs similar or even cheaper. Or the 7800x3d instead of the 9800x3d to save $50 or the 4070?
It's like your picks are intentionally low performance AND bad value. Are you heavily restrained in budget?
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>>107997307
I hate this youtuber, he's also an amd shill, I have the 9070 xt, it's a great card, but I hate shills
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>>107997229
I'm assuming the 4070 Super is a carry-over?

Either way, get a 5070Ti or something. I wouldn't recommend the 9070 XT after the DLSS announcement.
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>>107997249
>>107997254
>>107997331
To clarify, the 4070 is going for $630 in used/refurbished condition. I see those other two cards are both sold new for a little extra though, so that might be smarter in the long run.
Will look into an OLED monitor. Thanks.

>>107997324
Does the interface make that much of a difference for a storage?
As far as the CPU, I figured most games and applications tend to be heavier on the GPU and the difference between the two CPUs seemed minimal, so it wouldn't be a big deal.
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>>107997368
make sure the mobo has the top pcie slot at standard position
my gigabyte mobo has 3 nvmes right under it and that forces the gpu to be so up its really annoying to get to the lever to remove it and might block some cpu coolers
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Speaking of 4070/5070, any horror stories on this card? I don't like the fact it's a smallish design with two fans, and from what I gathered it had to receive BIOS updates so it could draw the power it needed, but I can get one from someone reliable. It's either that, or paying 350€ more for a 5070Ti, for which I'm not sure it's worth it, really.
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>>107997414
For 350 more I'm not so sure. The Super is still a great card compared to the shitty base 4070.
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>>107997414
That card will run a bit loud, but you can lower the power draw through an undervolt + OC to lower the noise.
I'd get that 4070 if you're content with 12GB VRAM.
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>>107997482
It's a 16GB Ti one though, which is why I'm interested in it despite its form factor
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>>107997368
Pcie 5.0 drives are usually faster, you're giving up free performance, unless they are more expensive in the US.
And with the cpu it's honestly less about performance and more about not buying a 3 year old cpu to save $50. That's the wrong place to save money on. Also the arctic freeze 3 pro costs $90 and performs better in noise/performance, there you saved $60 without buying a 3 year old chip. Even the cooling paste is random, get the mx7 or any of the good pastes. And why is your low performance psu $130 when you cheap out on the cpu by $50.
And if you can get either a 4080 used or a 50XX series card. The 4070 is shit and I bet you can find a 4080 super used similarly priced. Also whatever you do, do not get a amd card unless you already plan on never using Ai upscaling and can live with compatibility/performance issues in almost all major productivity programs
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>>107997494
Then it's worth dealing with the noise given the cost difference.
You might be able to retain close to stock performance with a 925mV undervolt + GPU core OC (around +185MHz).
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what's the go-to stability test for CPU overclocks nowadays? no gaymz
i did cinebech + prime95 small FFT+mixed and all were fine for an hour each, but then PC crashed when alt-tabbing or doing light tasks
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>>107997622
occt will crash a pc with unstable config pretty handily
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>>107997622
y cruncher
occt avx2/512
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If I mounted this GPU vertically, would it help with airflow by making it so GPU exhaust isn't being blown over RAM and CPU?
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Bwos...I bought a Founders Edition 5090 today.....what am I doing with my life?
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>>107997701
loli ai cg porn probably
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Why did NVIDIA stop advertising their RTX cards gigaray figures? 50 series only had "AI TOPS" whatever the fuck that means.
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RTX 3090: 28 million transistors
RTX 5070: 31 million transistors
450W
250W (180 with UV + 300 MHZ OC for another 10% performance, 2 generations ahead in RT cores, 2 slots)
Same shit with the 3080

So why the fuck would anyone go with Ampere housefire trash in the current year? Why is OP recommending it?
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>>107997711
mostly you just look at a chart that tells relative perf in actual games + dlss type software features
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I actually gonna stop following shitty websites like wccftech because all they post nowadays is ragebait about prices
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>he isn't ragemaxxing
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>>107997862
I already bought 64gb ram and 2 tb ssd, I just need news about the new am4 x3ds
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Should I buy 64gbs of RAM?
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>tfw 96gb ddr4 and 24gb gddr6x
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So the 5080 is just permanently a $1500 card now right? There's going to be zero GPU releases in 2026?
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>>107997928
Brother I bought a 5090 2-3 weeks ago, it has since raised in value by almost a $1000.
I don't want to sound like a schizo, but if you want to own anything I think even now is still a good time to buy, alternatively you'll wait for the next 3 years and gamble that stuff becomes cheaper instead of completely unaffordable. So no, I think the 5080 is soon a $2000 card or more
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>>107997905
>24gb gddr6x
SOON™ for me. Eyeing a 4090 auction that ends in a week.
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>>107997819
Wccftech will always be worth looking at just for the comments. It's like all of the brand war sperg fights here but on crack
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>>107997711
well bro they figured that AAA games are dogshit and the people buying their cards are actually using them for this >>107997707
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>>107997928
Things will get worse; you might start seeing $1000 9070 XT in a few months.
If you didn't buy a video card last year for whatever reason, just live with the decision you made.

>I couldn't afford to buy things last year
Too bad, PC gaming is overrated these days anyway.
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What monitor arm do you recommend? The cheap one I bought years ago is wobbly and almost impossible to adjust.
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What price should I sell my 9070XT for? Not shipping, local.
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>>107998076
Power color reaper
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>>107998076
They retail for about $1500 right now.
So, you could probably sell one for $1200 and upgrade to a 5070Ti for free.
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>>107998076
wait a month and 1000€
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>>107998076
>sell my 9070XT
Looks like you might be able to get around $600~650 if it's in clean condition.
People will try to lowball you to $500 or so.
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>>107998076
Why do you want to sell it?
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After being a neet for more than a decade my family finally got me a job, i'm replacing someone so worst case i'll get paid for two months unless i fuck up things really badly in the interview/training, Pulsar here i go and i did not need to suck dicks like i originally planned
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>>107998118
Was considering upgrading to 5080
>>107998087
Aren't they $860 on Newegg right now?
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>>107997987
I only got a 3090/ti here :/ it is still precious to me
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Broke one of the cables from my PSU I just got. Honestly not even sure I broke it, I literally just went to go install it
Luckily it's just a ground. I could've fixed it if it had pulled out the pin too but just the wire strands came out. Gonna ask Corsair for a replacement.
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>>107998037
But then they make them useless for AI by supplying anything but the 5090 with VRAM
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>>107997165
Honestly I'm not even aiming for a full upgrade anymore, just going for a better AM4 processor and GPU.
Currently on a Ryzen 5 2600 with a 1660S, was thinking of going for a 9070XT or a 9060XT, the 9070XT would be fun because I've been doing a bunch of 3D modeling. Any recs for the processor?
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>>107998218
5700x or wait for new x3d cpus
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>>107998218
If you're doing 3D then NVIDIA can force you to vendor lockin especially if you do path traced rendering, Optix denoising is insane and the RT cores are fast even in CUDA rendering. I recommend checking benchnarks for software you will use, Blender open data for example. They might have AMD data for HIP or whqtever API they still have.

As for AM4 CPUs, 5800/5900XT remain in production I think. The more cores for proructivity the better even if you dont render on the CPU. The 16 core parts have bigger L3 cache. G series APUs have smol L3 cache on the opposite end despite being energy efficient momolithic APUs.
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Bros, I need to know before I pull the trigger on a purchase;

I found a used MSI Godlike X870E motherboard for $700 and its from a good reputable seller I bought parts from for the last 5+ years. Is it ever worth buying used motherboards or should I just get a new one?
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>>107998218
If you're doing 3D modelling then there's no way you want to use an AMD card.
Performance alone is awful, and that's before you even get to Nvidia's proprietary software like mental ray.
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>>107998365
Blender IS basically proprietary for nvidia since it's only optimized for cuda and their cards
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>>107997165
>>107997276
The mobo is literally "AM5 2024 edition".
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>>107998468
That's not the Tomahawk Wifi
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>>107997928
Unless you want some new Intel releases then no
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Should I disable my e-cores on my 12900ks? Running windows 10.
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>>107998072
>you might start seeing $1000 9070 XT in a few months.
Considering some 9070XTs are over $800 now, I'd say it's only a matter of time.
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>>107998574
there's no benefit from that since the KS doesn't have avx512. at most, disabling HT will help in select games while keeping e-cores on will improve 1% lows
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Anyone got the flux pro?
How is it?
I got the air 903 max but I'm reconsidering now, also nice how the flux comes with 6 fucking fans pre-installed
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About to pay $437.73(that was $357.14 BEFORE I FUCKING CLICKED CHECK OUT) for a fucking 3060 12g cuz every other fucking card is far too expensive(even used since retards are selling 8gb cards at $1000 usd cuz they bought at the mininig craze)
I hate being a spic
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Im hoping to build a dev machine in the coming months for ue5. With prices going up am i not going to be able to afford the card necessary for development work?
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>>107998819
I got one a few months ago.
It's nice. Very roomy and easily the nicest case to work in that I've had.
Not a big fan of the cable gromits, they're a little flimsy and flaccid. Fans are nice, a bit weird they only give you two for the bottom when there are three slots. But, they are giving you 6 of them so it's a bit much to ask for 7, I guess.
Front intake doesn't have a dust filter beyond the meshing of the panel, which is a bit of a dust magnet, but oh well. You can buy one if you really want one.
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>>107997165
based and taichi pilled
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is this a good place to ask about mice?, all my mice get scroll wheel and click problems because I live near the beach, it only takes like 3 months or so for the scroll to begin to fail, my current mouse is a rocckat kone pro air, the scroll wheel is fucked and the middle click too, since my R and L click are optical, they work but, im having problems finding a mouse that doesnt have a brittle scroll wheel (or one that is at least is properly covered so it doesn't die by SALT)
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are external nvme the only thing that actually use USB 3.2 gen2x2 speeds? Seems like they don't have much use outside of this since most sticks aren't 2x2.
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>>107998948
DASs can.
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>>107998944
> it only takes like 3 months or so for the scroll to begin to fail,
Are you sure it's because of salt? That just sounds like Logitech build quality, desu.
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>>107998903
Looks nice
My current setup only has a dust filter at the bottom, but my setup is kinda bootleg so im pretty sure it does very little
the air 903 has a dust filter at the top and I have absolutely no clue why that is, other than to prevent me from putting anything on it
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>>107998953
Not him, but answer the question nerd.
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>>107998257
>>107998274
>>107998274
>If you're doing 3D modelling then there's no way you want to use an AMD card.
That's a bummer, I was looking forward to using an AMD card because it's apparently better with linux, and the price of a 5070ti is just absurdly higher in my country, like a 1000 dollar difference
I'll probably end up going for a 5070 with a 5800XT then. Thanks anons
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>>107998953
funny you say that cause my last 3 mice were logi, decided to never buy one again after that but, my roccat wheel began failing the exact same way so, can't think of anything else being the issue but the place i live
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>>107998970
it's way better with linux, what 3D software are you going to use?
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>>107998977
Don't get a razer. Super shit software required for operation and somehow even shittier scroll wheel. I went to razer because of Logi failures. Now I went back and bought a Logitech G502 X Plus because I don't need to run any software once programed. So far so good, but we will see.
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>>107998952
ugh, can the faggots over at the USB foundation release usb 4 already so that we can put it on every thing already instead of wasting lanes on SATA 3?
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>>107998953
>Logitech build quality, desu
I have been using the same Logitech mouse since 2009.
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>>107998930
I missed when asrock put plastic gears that moved in their Taichi boards ;_;
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>>107999002
wanted to buy another roccat but i have no idea what happened with that brand that all their mice tripled in price since the time i bought mine, i like optical switches but im still at a loss at what look for, i don't understand whats wrong with modern scroll wheels, never had issues like this years ago
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god I want the 7800x3d on am4 so much, I'll even upgrade my cpu cooler for it although it's not necessary
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>>107999057
no you don't. the pga socket on am4 is aids
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prompt: you are a professional ...
llm: the user is a professional ...
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>>107999027
>2009.
Well yeah, they've gone to shit since then.
I've been through 4 MX Master 3s in the 2 year warranty I had.
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>>107998161
shouldnt have happened. it means corsairs' cable crimp is weak
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>>107998103
unfortunately true
used amd cards attract the lowest cheapskates on this planet
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>>107999112
To be fair, so do new ones.
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>>107999100
Damn I don't want to hear that, The mouse is getting old and I do wonder about replacing it...
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>>107997165
Would it be a good idea to use a old coolermaster storm trooper/stryker cases for a build these days and where can I find em for a reasonable price
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>>107999153
It's really retarded how they're doing it. They're cheaping out on wear parts, so if you look up any talk of a logitech mouse that's been out for a few years it's literally all
>It's started randomly double clicking
>Clicks aren't registering
>Scroll wheel is noisey and loose
And shit like that.
And it's literally just because they're using some shitty $0.01 click switch rather than a $0.02 one instead.
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>>107999189
only if you mod it to install more fans
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>>107997956
holy shit I just checked 5090 prices. Waitfags, you asshole may never recover from being fucked that hard...
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>>107999273
nobody waited to buy a 5090
everyone who needed or wanted one already has one
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>>107999280
it applies to all GPUs anon. If you're a waitfag, you're done lmao
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>>107999189
>man I REALLY love dealing with cleaning little sponge filters in hard to reach places!
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Im one year into my 4080 super anyway, surely itll last
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If USB is better than SATA why not just have internal USB ports and cables instead of SATA? Why not power the fan hubs with them too?
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>>107998365
What part of blender are they benchmarking? Not the usual real time opengl output, that may be slower on windows... or the meme renderers that dont even matter in 3d modelling like cycles.
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>>107999323
rtx5000 and rx9000 was such a shit improvement that rtx4080 and 4090 can be considered current gen
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>>107998504
>AUG 1986
Thanks MSI, I forgot.
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Give it to me straight /pcbg/: do I keep my 4090 that I paid $1800 for 3 years ago and sell the 5090 I paid $2000 for, or sell my 4090 and keep the 5090? I don't currently do any image gens or LLM-related stuff. The 4090 is an AIB model with a really solid cooler while the 5090 is an FE.
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>>107999381
>rx9000
Not really. 64 compute unit 9070 XT nearly matches 96 compute unit 7900 XTX in raster while being way faster in RT.
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>>107999401
start doing llm related stuff
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>>107999322
But the case looks cool
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>>107999407
9070xt performs like an rtx4080 that you could have bought in 2022. it offers nothing new and doesnt push any boundaries
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>>107999410
Like what?
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>>107999447
Install lm studio, dl some model that fits into vram and ask it a cooking recipe
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>>107999343
USB really isn't better than SATA because SATA has DMA and USB does not.
USB data has to be handled wholly by the CPU while sata can actually skip the cpu and read and write data directly to memory.
USB can be blisteringly fast but it is at the clost of more CPU cycles, not a huge problem for modern CPUs but there is a reason Thunderbolt exists and now USB4 as overhead is significant enough with USB to warrant needing an connector that has DMA.

When it comes to hosting sata drives, native sata is almost always preferable to USB. Sata to USB chipsets are pretty bad in reliability.
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>>107999407
Then why is AMD not releasing a 128 compute unit GPU to give 5080 a run for its money?
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>>107999493
AMD is focusing all on 2nm
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>>107999493
because rdna5 is already tapered and ready to manufacturing, they'll make high end gpus next gen
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When will normal prices return?
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>>107999515
in the 2030s
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>>107999509
>next gen
what a terrible timing
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>>107999515
I bought extra RAM and ssd right before Christmas. It's now tripled in price.
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>>107999401
5090 will age better because of native FP4 hardware support, but keep the card undervolted (+OC'd) to around 925~950mV with a lower power limit.
NVIDIA's eventually going to add a new feature that will run better on FP4.
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Was this a poor decision?
I sold my 3600x for $100 and bought an oem 5700x for $185.
I also sold my 4-year-old ASSrock b550 pro4 for $70 because it had some of the worst clicking VRM coil whine ever during regular desktop use, no tinkering with the BIOS would get rid of it and I've used different GPUs. I bought an Asus tuf wifi ii in its place for $150.
1440p; GPU is 6700xt; and 16gb of RAM
I really wanted to upgrade to AM5 but there was no way in hell I could justify spending over $400 on RAM.
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>>107999515
You faggots said the "normal" prices were too high back then.
Enjoy the shitshow.
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>>107999401
Why would you sell the stronger card? Who gives a fuck about aislop, use it for games. Gat a 3050 secondary card to handle physX.
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>>107999515
It's unironically over for pc gaymin
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>>107999542
Sorry about your experience with the pro4. Their am4 stuff was all solid in my experience. I think it's a solid midrange build for how little you managed to spend. I'm half tempted to get a 5800xt but I know it would be a worthless upgrade from my 5600x.
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I'm gonna bite the bullet, someone talk me out of it
Why shouldn't I spend $850 on 96GB of RAM (ddr4)? Who knows how long this shortage will last and datacenters will raise the bids on all but the crumbs
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>>107999599
are you retarded?
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>>107999599
check amazon refurbished deals at $35 fury beast 16 gb 3200mhz
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>>107999599
they dont make 2x48gb kits for ddr4 so your buying frankenstein 2x16gb and 2x32gb to put together? sounds like a retarded plan since you'd be mismatching ram
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>>107998870
Considering that you seem to want vram, how expensive are the 4060 ti 16gb ? ifi ts anything close to that go for it, its much faster on games too
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>>107999599
You know DDR5 is the expensive one, right?
DDR4 is just people scalping retards.
Don't be a retard. If you're going to spend too much money on RAM, at least get good RAM.
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>>107999573
blackwell has been able to do phsyic x on at least most of the popular games that use it since november anon, including mirro edge, black flag, bordelrands 2 , and the batman games
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>>107999628
Series 4k is almost non existent here. Checked all PC parts webstores, then checked keepa(all sections).
nada.
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>>107999401
Keep both if you don't need the cash
Or sell the 4090 if you do. Or maybe consider modding the 4090 to 48gb before selling it off for max profit
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>>107999653
>modding the 4090 to 48gb
????
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>>107999401
explain to me the reason you paid for TWO xx90 cards instead.
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>>107999645
Well then you are really fucked, is it the same for 4070s? at least the 3060 12gb will not be mined so if thats you can afford it is wihat it is, especially if blackwell its extremely expensive and you need nvidia for some reason, btw whats your use case, if you really dont need vram for productivity you could even check if a 5050 is cheaper
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>>107999492
>and now USB4 as overhead is significant enough with USB to warrant needing an connector that has DMA.
So there we go, the problem is solved.
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>>107999657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA4Bhw1S_2o

Hire a shop to resolder your 4090 and vram + 12 spare gddr6x vram onto a 48gb capable pcb
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yeah, okay. sure. totally logical
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>>107998161
prolly pulling too hard with that ham-fist, chubfinger
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>>107999101
Thanks for reassuring me, that's what I was thinking. Hopefully they respond back quickly and send me another
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>>107999727
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>>107999515
I pulled the trigger and bought a used MSI Godlike X870E motherboard, I'm expecting even mid tier boards to go up 100% in price soon
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>>107999678
>4070s
nein
>5050
$319
>usecase
-aislop
I got somewhat interested in it after one thread on /v/ got moved to /trash/. Of course I could forget about the 12gb and go for the 8 gb and instead use online gens like NAI since at this price it would be like 17-19 months give or take.
-vidya
desu I do like to play and the extra 12 gb would be good if I were to update to a 1440p display.
another thing is that the mobo is somewhat old. still pcie 3.0 x16. and I am thinking of giving it to my lil brother down the line after the prices stabilize(clueless).
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>>107997324
>pcie5 SSD cheaper than pcie4
Where? Also for gaming machine we are years away from actually see any meaningful difference between 4 and 5
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>>107999727
Damn even the Astral LC version of the 5090 went up in price, fucks sake
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>>107999730
Nuh uh, I was actually plugging it in when it happened so no u
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>>107999761
well if its for ai slop then the 3060 makes more sense
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>>107998903
How are the temp displays on this?
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>>107999573
>Why would you sell the stronger card?
Because I can sell it for $2,900+ with (close to) zero risk.

>>107999671
The more you spend, the more you save. I was going to waitTM for the 6090's release to upgrade, but had the chance to buy a 5090 at MSRP and figured if I didn't want to keep it, then I could easily resell it.
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>>107999796
honestly I am more butthurt about the price change than the price itself. It was the best cheap deal by a landslide in my sheet.
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>>107999815
if you want to aislop keep the the 5090 otherwise just keep the 4090.
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Is this monitor actually good or just a meme? I thought VA was bad for games?
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looking for a fun mmo to play with my new gpu and they are all bad now, wtf
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I've realized that the scarcity bubble is mostly fear and greed-driven opportunism and very little with regard to reality. The industry should be investigated for market manipulation.
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>Samsung 60" S90D
You need more?
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$50 used P2415Q from the surplus store worth buying or not worth buying?
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so is dlss4.5 great for 8gb users or nah?
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>>107999863
the mini-led makes it good,
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>>107999863
you do not want distracting red highlights on your monitor
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>>107998076
I sold my 9070 XT a week ago for $100 less than current retail with many others in line wanting to get it for some reason
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>>107997622
Better make sure you're not on 13th/14th gen Intel, too. Those are just inherently unstable.
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i’m at the point where i might just buy a dramless m.2 drive for linux and keep my 240gb drives in a safe place
maybe with a cheapo 4tb hdd to replace my old hard drive as well
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>>107997687
>If I mounted this GPU vertically, would it help with airflow
I doubt it. You already have pretty good positive airflow here, so at best you might get marginal gains. Do whatever you like in favor of visuals, but be careful about stability (physical plus electrical). Keep in mind that too long of a PCIe riser can cause issues.
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>>107999973
[cope] Dramless drives pull less power anyway [/cope]
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Are the ironwolf pro hdds pro’s being 50% more expensive also because of ai? One of my nas drives is failing…
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>>108000038
Yep
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Switching from intel CPU to AMD. After I physically transfer my drives on the new motherboard, can I log into my windows 11 and then Reinstall windows 11 so its optimal to AMD? Or is it best to install a new windows 11 via usb and wipe out my boot drive?
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>>108000038
Yes, they're using them to store their cold training data.
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Why is anyone even considering upgrading their pc in these times? Everything is 50% more expensive or even higher.
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>>108000095
Waitfags trying to upgrade while they still can because things are not going to get better than whatever it currently is
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>>108000095
i want a new gpu. the 9070xt isn't all that much.
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>>108000095
>>108000105
>Got all my components before the price rises.
>Now just focused on cosmetic and QoL upgrades.
It's kinda nice, comfy even.
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>zotac might go out of business
Fucking lovely
Can these aifags catch the plague already
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Who I gotta vote for during the midterms to make my upgrades less expensive?
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>>108000110
Tbh, if you make GPUs so shit that not even AI wants to buy them, you might deserve to go out of buisness.
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>>108000129
Xi Jinping
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>>108000137
this
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>>108000095
Because if the AI overlords keep getting larger without stopping, it's possible we're seeing the last few generations of affordable consumer performance PC hardware.

In 3-5 years it could be $5000+ to build what would cost $1500-2000 today.
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>>108000095
cuase I am in a fucking 1050ti nigga.
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>>108000149
brb buying a rtx6000 pro ws before tsmc gets firebombed
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>>108000150
And you choose now to upgrade instead of any time in the last 10 years?
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>>108000156
just get a free one after it gets firebombed.
but really, whats with all the datacenters?
Do they expect their data center will be the one to birth the AI cybergod? more surveillance processing? more cartoon kid porn? more automatic excel sheet making? more AI ERP models?
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>>108000175
more wagies getting pwned
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>>108000172
I THOUGHT THE 6K SERIES WERE IN THE HORIZON OKAY???
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>>108000150
Sorry Organelle.
It's too late.
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>>108000184
rtx4000 was a 2.5-3yr generation
rtx5000 launched 12 months ago and will be a 3yr+ generation...
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>>108000192
more like 6 yr with how things are going
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>>108000131
Whats so bad about their gpus anyway?
They seem fine?
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>>107999771
pushing the cable in means you're pulling against the far end desu
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Help me out bros. I've been having a reoccurring issue with my PC built early last year.
What happens is video files, games and windows explorer file browsing windows will randomly freeze for about 20-30 seconds, this usually happens at least a few times a day.
It's always contained within the application so I can ALT+TAB and do other shit while waiting for the program to unfreeze but it's so annoying. None of my hardware components are being overclocked.
I've run Memtest86, Prime95 on small FFTs for a couple hours, both found nothing. I've disabled RAM overclocking & DOCP in the bios, I've reinstalled the Nvidia drivers, reinstalled the AMD drivers. I'm not sure what else to do.
Only other things I can think of is maybe a PSU issue or I need to reseat my RAM.
Build:
CPU - 7800X3D
GPU - RTX 4070
RAM - (x2) 16GB DDR5 6000mhz
PSU - Corsair RMx Series RM850x 850W 80+
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>>108000364
reinstall windows. maybe an update corrupted some files
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Best budget case in your opinion?
Its the last piece to my build, but I obviously cant get started until I lock it in
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>>108000380
Are you in the US?
In Europe we get a load of cheapo chinky cases that are like 30 quid and pretty decent. America doesn't get those.
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>>108000373
I've had this issue right from the beginning with this build but I might try that.
There's an option where you can reinstall windows while keeping all your files & installed programs intact right?
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What do you think of my prospective poorfag build? My use case is Blender and pre-2020 gaming.

>Ryzen 5 3600/5600
I was considering a 1600/2600 on a B450 mb, but those don't support PCIe 4.0, and I was planning on adding an RTX GPU at some later point. It'd be backwards compatible, but I don't know how much performance would suffer--depends on the card from what I've read. With the 3600 there is some concern regarding CPU throttling and temps, so 5600 might be the way to go, though I've only really looked into the 3600 thus far.
>B550 micro-ATX mb
I read that micro-ATX is cheaper.
>16GB DDR4 RAM
I can't remember if 16 is sufficient for Blender or not, so I might have to go up to 32.

I have an RX 480 8GB, but I plan on switching to an RTX one, as I had previously mentioned.

First-time builder, so I don't know if there are any other considerations to take into account, like motherboard/GPU brand. Case and PSU I can figure out on my own, I believe. Storage I already have.
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>>108000397
>There's an option where you can reinstall windows while keeping all your files & installed programs intact right?
dont do that since its not truly restoring all files
use rufus to put the windows iso onto a usb drive and then boot into that installer, reformat your C drive and reinstall windows completely
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Should I replace my lancool iii with a define 7 xl?
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>>108000441
define 7 has shit airflow
north/meshify 3/torrent are the go to
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>>108000397
>an option where you can reinstall windows while keeping all your files & installed programs intact right?
Yes.

>>108000428
>dont do that since its not truly restoring all files
Ehhhh this is a topic for /fwt/ but I will pitch in and say it won't work well. I did with my W11 install to fix something *I* did to it, and it werked for the OS part that I hosed but I had to reinstall all my softwares.
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>>108000388
EU, but I'd just rather not spend 200 eurpoors on a case
I was looking at the flux pro, which looks nice and has a bunch of free fans, though im not sure if its worth it
I have a montech 903 max sitting next to me but apparently the front panel is magnetic instead of just being those slots and I kinda dont want that
Also both have a fucking awful spot for the front IO
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>>108000447
Oh? The problem with the lancool iii is the lack of HD space though for me. As for airflow I can just get a 420mm radiator since its huge.
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Just upgraded from a 6700k/32gb ddr4 to a 14900k with 32gb ddr5 6400. Holy shit. Is nice. Also nice to not be running a 4080 super on pcie 3.0, that has to be a bottleneck right? Had to fuck with XMP a bit since it would bootloop at first, but I'm happy. MBR/GPT swapping is lame, and I forgot you could switch them without wiping the drive. Oops. Deleted my 10+ year old porn collection along with pics from exgfs and such. RIP my carefully organized fur collection too :(

Overall I'm pleased. Thank fuck I have gigabit so I can redownload all my steam games pretty fast. $1400 later CS2 better NOT FUCKING MICROSTUTTER STILL ASDFSDFTG. Also fuck these star captchas, can't wait til it starts to remember me and these stop.
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>>108000529
>HD space
dude, its 2026
just have external hds that you connect via usb
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>>108000530
Gen3? Gen4 should be easily doable on almost all lga1700 boards
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>>108000534
External HDs? That sounds annoying.
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>>108000556
We use nvme ssds these days
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>>108000556
It's not so bad.
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>>108000560
I can only have like 3 of those without gimping my pcie slots, and its hard finding 20TB nvme drives...
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So, I went looking for more case options from the recommended ones at the top
The HYTE Y60 is an option, and the cheapest one is the fucking persona 3 case
I dont play persona
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>>108000530
I think pcie 5 to 3 is a 1-4% loss so it's not a big deal at all. It's probably the same 1-4% from 4 to 3 because even a 5090 doesn't max out pcie 4 x16
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>>108000586
Nor does anyone else.
It's why they're so cheap.
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>>108000608
Guess so
Shame that doesnt extend to the miku collab stuff
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>>107997234
i bought one and it immediately began to coil whine
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What about the zotac 4080?
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>>108000658
what about it?
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>>108000661
Is it really that shit?
Mine has been doing great so far, which is why them potentially going bankrupt is all the more concerning
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>>108000685
>Is it really that shit?
the shit starts to happen when something goes wrong. prob fine until it isn't.
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>>108000695
I guess ill start saving money for a new gpu, which at this rate will cost me like 2000 euros when this thing breaks
I hate aifags so fucking much
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>>108000564
Is that the pc mega drive
>>107997234
Cheap fans, cheap capacitors, cheap power stages, cheap voltage controllers, cheap coolers, cheap packaging
They're the cheapest for a reason. Not even PNY or gigabyte is that cheap
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I continue to buy noctua coolers instead of cheaper equivalents, why do I do this?
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>>108000780
you mean you buy more than 1 noctua cooler in a decade?
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>>108000788
I currently have multiple builds yeah
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>>108000846
if you set your mind to it Im sure one day you'll manage to buy a non-noctua cpu cooler
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>update 9070xt drivers
>silent hill f goes from 120 fps to 50 fps
what the fuck
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>>108000918
retard
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>>108000705
then why are you buying an ai card? >>108000658
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>>107997862
>white borders
Not even once.
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Just bought a PS5 nvme because it was the only a option at a reasonable price, now I have to figure how to remove heatsink to mount on mobo...
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>>108000658
>waaaaaaah my high tier card its so bad
>validate me!
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Reminder that the overall cheap add-in components of Zotac still doesn't make it worse than a Ventus cooler by itself. For a lower class of card which doesn't undergo as much thermal and electrical stress to begin with their cost effectiveness is why Zotacs sell. That and they don't have half bad aesthetics.
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>>108000948
As opposed to what?
Go on
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>>108001069
zotac's 5090 aio model is one of the best looking ones this time around
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>>108001154
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zotac is the dollar tree of graphics cards
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>>107997928
>$1500 card
That'll be the 5060ti 16gb in a couple months.
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>>108000364
this probably ain't it but i have an external hdd that's very slow to spin up and certain programs that blithely try to access information about recent files or whatever will basically hang while it starts. explorer especially if i just briefly drag a file over the drive's icon on its way somewhere else will freeze the entire explorer window until the drive wakes up.
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>>108001310
I think I know what you're talking about but that's not what's happening in my case.
I'm reusing the same storage drives from my previous build which is an 8TB HD & a 1TB SSD for the Windows installation & a few programs. Never had this issue before this build.
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>buy ampere in 2022
>only to buy ampere from 2022 in 2026 because MUH VRAM
amazing upgrade cycle
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>>108001331
Maybe the power settings for the HDD changed at some point. If it's set to spin down when not used it's normal for it to take a while to become available again. It should be possible to set it to always stay spinning but I don't know how it's done on Windows.
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>>108001344
jensen wasnt kidding when he called it a B(uy)F(orever)GPU
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>>108001348
There's no specific cause I can suss out though. The freezing is completely random in my case like in the middle of playing a game or watching a video file.
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Do ssds still get dogshit slow when they're almost full? My 4tb is filling up fast
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>>108001388
QLC gets dogshit slow
TLC does to a certain extent but not as badly
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>only the psu and gpu is new
>the rest is off of someone's cancelled build from marketplace
>total is around 1900 usd
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zNrnmC
Am I set for 10 years from now?
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>>108001403
holy shit you saved my bussy
wasn't taking that into account and was about to splurge on a QLC without dram, wuv u non
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Does the RTX 3090 Ti suffer the same blown drMOS issue as the original 3090? I plan to undervolt and power limit this card to 75% so it doesn't exceed 300W full load. I only got a 750W PSU anyway.
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>>107997165
>https://www.howtogeek.com/no-you-dont-need-an-ssd-from-one-of-the-expensive-brands/
This article will upset /pcbg/
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>>108001502
Nope. The PCB is completely redesigned and resembles the 4090's but without the connector melting issue
>I plan to undervolt and power limit this card to 75% so it doesn't exceed 300W full load. I only got a 750W PSU anyway.
That will be a waste. Ampere scales well with power draw and I'd recommend just keeping it at stock if the cooler noise isn't a problem
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>>108001529
First party SSDs (Samsung/WD/Crucial) aren't particularly marked up though. The article is trying to be contrarian but literally highlights how off-brand units almost always come with a catch or try to obfuscate lower specs. If you want an NVMe TLC drive with DRAM, OEM brands will usually be about the same price as the big names.
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>>107999515
With or without the 2027 Taiwan invasion?
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>>108001562
meant this for >>108001519
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You're an absolute retard if you spent $400+ USD for the shitty last gen 7800XD in the year of our Lord 2025+1.

I mean who the fuck is actually buying this shit? Terrible value why even drop it when 9850X3D is coming soon. Why spend that much when it's not even top of the line.

In 2 years there will be chips even faster than the 9850X3D as AMD has basically said they are committed to AM5 for the long haul.

I took the sensible option from upgrading from am4.

I had a coupon and $40 in egg points on new egg.

I got a 9600x, case, freebie MSI mag 240mm AIO all for $210. I don't regret it as long as I can game with 144fps 1440p
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>>108001590
they cost like 310€ here.
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So think specialised GPU companies are going to survive the next couple of years with Nvidia cutting production and keeping the lions share of their chips for their own direct sales?
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>>107999599
You don't need more than 16gb of ddr5
ram if you're a gamer on Linux. Newegg has bundles for $180 of ddr5 6000mhz with a mobo.

KDE Bazzite uses 1.5gb on boot compared to winblows 11 with 3-4gb+

If you're some streamer/3 multi monitor /LLM freak fork up the money for your hyper specific usecase
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>>107997165
It's finally built


What I've got

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D (The brain)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M GAMING WIFI
GPU: Radeon RX 9070 XT (The powerhouse)
Cooler: Antec A400i
SSD: Kioxia BG4 512GB NVMe (Installed for OS)
Case: Antec DF800 FLUX
RAM (Stick 1): Kingston FURY DDR5 (Currently installed)
PSU: Corsair rm850e

What I'll be getting

RAM (Stick 2): Another stick of Kingston FURY DDR5.

LG IPS Screen.
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>>108001625
cooler wrong way
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>>108001629
I KNEW I DID SOMETHING WRONG FUCK

do I need to reapply the thermal paste?
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227072498056

This a good deal?
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>>108001638
nah.
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>>108001640
Okay I'll do now
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Buy.... Not buy....can't afford shit....overpriced parts... Forced to be humiliated..... PC space a disgrace fucking disgrace.
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>>108000095
I already shot myself in the foot for not upgrading early last year and I shot my other foot for not upgrading during black friday. I bought all my new parts for a crazy price like a chump, but waiting is only going to make it more expensive.
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>>108001625
>he boughted
about time, have fun
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How long until we join the reality of companies producing and releasing SED or FED-like monitors, anons? I know the cost to start up CRT production is high, but maybe there are options for smaller, lighter phosphor-based displays? Maybe it's just too much of an enthusiast ideal in the end...
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>>108001659
I wanted to buy before but university got the better of me , my job paid terribly and funeral expense for family members were expensive
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sandisk earnings report comes out in 4 hours bros
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>>108001662
Depends if the costs work out, retro market is full of pay pigs, though at least half of them are just speculators thinking their 'investment' in a copy of Zelda is going to pay off.
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>>108001590
7800x3d is the most efficient high perf cpu, even moreso than the 9800x3d
9850x3d is a joke. +25-30% more power over the 9800x3d for only +4% performance
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>>108001716
>9850x3d is a joke. +25-30% more power over the 9800x3d
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>>108001529
>That will be a waste. Ampere scales well with power draw and I'd recommend just keeping it at stock if the cooler noise isn't a problem
This is exactly the reason why people preferred to buy Ada and Blackwell over Ampere cards, lest the ludicrous power requirements rear their ugly head during transient spikes and summers. I have honestly no idea why people still buy furnaces like the 3090 when the 4070 Super and the 5070 exist and run at more than half the power, have better ray tracing, and have proper OC potential.
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>>108001590
>You're an absolute retard if you spent $400+ USD for the shitty last gen 7800XD in the year of our Lord 2025+1.
What do you have to say to people who spend 300 euro on a 5950X or 5900XT?
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>>108001723
3090 has its 24gb vram going for it and is also the last highend nvidia gpu to have a non melting connector
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>>107997229
Don't Corsair AIOs come with thermal paste pre applied?
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>>108001716
high perf gaymen cpu*
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>>108001731
>3090 has its 24gb vram going for it
And thus would be obsolete like the 3080 if it didn't have that VRAM, that's literally all it has going for it.
>the last highend nvidia gpu to have a non melting connector
Not like the GPUs that replace it in the same performance tier have melting connectors, right?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

How much did I screw. Memory was gifted few months ago it is a 32G kingston fury cl40 yea it's slow but on this prices I'm ok with that
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I was going to buy a 9800X3D this weekend but I see the 9850X3D is out, should I just get the 9850?
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>>108001757
No, get the 9800x3d, it's a minor update
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>>108001757
yeah but say that you upgraded from a 9800x3d to make everyone salty.
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>>108001757
no
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>>108001755
Fuck no components on list stupid site

9600x
Deepcool ak620
Msi b850 gaming plus wifi6
Wd blue sn5100
Sapphire pulse 9070xt
Corsair frame 4000d
Seasonic focus 750w gold
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I need to buy ram, does CL36 matter than much?
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>>108001757
>>108001736
>>108001716
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>>108001727
I say upgrade to AM5 and sell off your PC parts.

9600X goes neck and neck with a 5800X3D largely due to DDR5 performance.

On new egg you can get a case, AIO, 9600x CPU, mobo and RAM for $450.
Newegg does bundles all the time.

Its more about the platform I'll be slurping up cheap 9850X3D's in 3 years and by that time hopefully mini led will be much cheaper and more 24" 1440p options.
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>>108001794
intel just has more estrogen cores
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>>108001794
Sounds like communist bullshit
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>>108001747
>>108001731
Oh also, 3090/Ti only has DP 1.4a to the 50 series DP 2.1 so you're capped to 2160p 120Hz best case scenario.
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>>108001757
Probably.
Unless you're getting the 9800X3D, the 9850X3D is probably the better option, even if the gains are kinda minor.
The theory is that they might have fixed the CPU burning issue with the revision, and that's kinda worth it alone, if it's true.
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>>108001812
the 4090 is similarly cucked
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I won't spend $430+ with tax on a 7800X3D when it's not even the best cpu you can get. Highly overrated and too expensive. Maybe at $320-340 but $400+?

A 9600x is $185 USD on new egg right now with a free $80 AIO.
$270 value for $185.
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>>108001876
Got 9800x3d 350 dollars at AliExpress
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>>108001878
That's some sketchy shit. I don't trust scammin Chinese.
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>>108001876
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>>108000364
windows event viewer should show something
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>>108001887
307 eurobux $366, $375 with tax USD. Maybe I'd bite if it came with an AIO cooler and $15 coupon. I'm thinking the 7800x3D is worth no more than $350 USD at its max any more than that new is a ripoff.

These days you can't get me to buy pc parts without a bundle or something thrown.

I'm not a shill for newegg but if I used amazon I wouldve spent $100 more with the same cart. Best pc seller in the USA.
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>>108001773
no not for the price differences i'm seeing on amazon after a quick check
performance memory scaling is a little muted on x3d platforms anyway which i'll assume you have or are getting which takes some of the edge off
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>>108001876
>>108001910
Why are you mad at a product being priced at an amount nobody's paying since they're all cheaper than what you're kvetching about
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Can someone explain why 1440p is such a big deal? It's a shit resolution. Its not worth it in my eyes.

27" 1440p is barely any visual bump from 24" 1080p yet youtube tech shills keep saying 1440p is this huge jump at 26" distance. 44 to 53 PPD isn't that big it's barely noticeable.

Now 4K 27" 80PPD vs 1440p 27" 53 PPD is a big deal. Almost a 30PPD jump vs 9.
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Is the difference between 1440p 27 inch and 2160p 27 inch really as massive as r*ddit and jewtubers claim it to be? Or is it pretty much a worthless upgrade and a waste of money to go from 1440p and 2160p if size is the same?

>>108001961
>1440p
>shit resolution
lmao
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1440p is for cowards afraid of 4k
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>>108001993
16:9 is for cowards afraid of 21:9
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>>108001993
4k is shit, too many apps don't scale correctly, Steam doesn't even scale correctly yet on 1440p, imagine how unusuable it'd be on fucking 4k? ridiculous cope.
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>>108002019
you don't fullscreen steam you retard
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>>108002024
why wouldn't you fullscreen steam? i don't want to click and drag it by accident, and soo fucking what if i do or not? it doesn't change the bad text fonts, it doesnt make the text any less microscopic, and who the fuck are you to tell ME how to use the apps i use?

kys you retarded paypig.
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16:9 plebs fundamentally cannot comprehend the perfection of side by side windows on an ultrawide. The uninitiated mind recoils from true revelation.
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>>108002043
seethe my nigga, seethe
i have double 4ks and i double dick your mother asshole
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>U-UH 3090 IS USELESS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T (insert extremely specific use case that always rounds up to 4k) SO U-UH YOU'RE A RETARD FOR BUYING SIIIIR
Bruh like I get 4090-5090 is ideal but spending that much for such benign qol uses seems so pointless
maybe the next sexdive60 series or whatever brings your stupid res without half an arm in perf, but until then 4k is always going to be a meme
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>>108002013
trvke
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>>108001993
Yep and resolution is irrelevant with FSR4 and many games requiring upscaling anyways like arc raiders for 4K.

Might as well go 4K because it deals with upscaling the best and has the best picture quality.

Most games will run smoothly at 144fps with a 9070xt at 4K since statistically most gamers play indies nowadays and 4K is only being limited by the GPU power today.
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>>108002080
>i double dick your mother asshole
...sigh
It's always an indian, everytime
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>>108002085
You should have bought a 4080 12gb, retard
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>>108002103
you are the indian saar
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>>108001794
this thread would be nothing without kind strangers on reddit
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4K is useless.
The human eye can't see more than 720p at 2ft.
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>>108001876
>got my 7800X3D for 250 freedomburgers during Black Friday
Feels so good bros.
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>>108001638
You just need to put the fan on the other side of the cooler. Remember to have it oriented so it's pulling air onto the fence
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>>108002199
Eventually the waitchads win.

This ram crisis? Nothing ever happens, it will pass.
Increased CPU prices? Nothing ever happens it will pass.

Well scoop up 9800X3D for $250 in 3 years, and but a new 9070xt for $280.

Only advice I can give someone right now is wait.
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What are /pcbg/'s honest thoughts on custom 12VHPWR cables for a 500W+ card?
Specifically stuff like CableMod's 12VHPWR to 2 (or even 3) 8-pin PCIe cables.
Worth the $30 or skip it?
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>>108002294
Should I buy another 16 gb or ddr5 ram or wait ?

I’m so mad I didn’t buy it before
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>>108002309
The chances of it happening are very slim, but not zero.
For now the 9070 XT and 5090 are both within warranty and are being replaced as it occurs. But, eventually that won't be the case.

For peace of mind, $30 isn't so bad. But given we don't even know exactly what's causing it, it's kinda moot as to if any of the proposed solutions will actually help.
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>>107997165
Should I just get the MSI B850 Gaming Wifi Plus motherboard or pay 50 dollars extra for a Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite Wifi 7 motherboard? These are the two budget motherboards that I can afford right now.
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>>108002309
split end cables are bad for current balancing. what might work better than a 12v2x6 cable is one of those h+++ 14A rated cables that have thicker terminals than spec
>t. rm1000i 2x8-pin to 12v2x6 cable + 5090 asstral user
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Asus Dual fan, Gigabyte Windorce 3 fan, or Zotac solid 3 fan for the RTX 5070? Which could I OC the highest? Which would be the most reliable?
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>>108002437
just buy a faster gpu
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>>108002442
I'm not inclined towards buying a 350W-450W transient spiker furnace. Heat is as much of a concern as power. I like my system to be cool and quiet.
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>>108002437
>Which could I OC the highest?
>>108002449
>Heat is as much of a concern as power. I like my system to be cool and quiet.
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>>108002449
5070ti uses like 240-280W and is way faster
>transient spiker furnace
transients dont affect temps, average power draw does. only causes problems with tripping overcurrent protection
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>>108002460
>5070ti uses like 240-280W and is way faster
It also costs almost $1000 for the shit-tier models, to the $610 of the 5070 or almost double the money.
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>>107997165
What would be a nice candidate for a build like this?
https://youtu.be/p-xYtqWg9V8?si=nSDLcn5Aiw5pvxPk

I'd like to build a MOBILE (important) GPU slave machine that can fit in a backpack alongside a laptop. Yes, the purpose is to run the ayy aye on it.
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>>108002437
just get whatever is cheapest
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>>108002527
completely retarded build, get one of the amd strix halo mini pcs instead
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>>108002080
>t. pic rel
shill harder Pradeep.
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if you unironically buy the 5070 instead of the 9070 xt when they are at the same price because of brandfagging you might be insane in the head
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>>108002533
I don't think that's sufficient capability for me.
I'd like something that has the power of ~4 SMX connected V100s at least.

The issue is making it *portable*
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>>108002536
>3090 Ti above the 5070
This graph is utter bullshit. A 3090 Ti is not more powerful than a 5070.
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>>108002580
still no reason to buy a 5070 with just 12gb of vram when you can pay more + get more performance and 4gb of vram for free basically.
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>>108002579
strix halo mini pcs ahve 128gb vram for AI, you can't get that with gpus, portable or not
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>>108002588
>still no reason to buy a 5070 with just 12gb of vram
By this logic a 3090 Ti is a better buy than a 5070 because it has muh VRAM despite the 3090 and 3090 Ti being slow, power hungry cards that can't even make use of all that VRAM and have outdated features.
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>>108002294
nah you can still get a prebuilt and some cards at reasonable prices, in 6 months current stock will be replaced with new pricing and you will be gigafucked for over a year
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>>108002604
3090 is the cheap ai card that won't get choked by it's vram unlike the 5070. which is just a 5060 basically.
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>>108002595
This is why buying shit like 3060, 4060 Ti 16GB, 3090, 3090 Ti, Titan RTX, Volta V100 for AI is copeletely redundant because it's too power hungry and doesn't have enough capacity for what it is. You have things like AI mini-PCs and unified memory or Battlematrix for AI Slop for a reason.
>muh stable diffusion
Cool toy, but not useful in practicality anymore than the other AI slop.
>muh 3d
50 series is better than all that shit despite having VRAM. VRAM is just a binary for capacity to load more shit.
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>>108002604
Anon you are getting baited, TPU is useless when comparing new cards against older cards beyond ada super refresh because they were tested in games from 2022 and not modern games whcih drag the average down, just remember /pcbg/ is retarded and has amd schizos
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>>108002437
check the thermals and see which one has metal bakcplates, heatpads at the back of the vram and the heatpipe configuration
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>>108002382
Ultimately it will be used in tandem with one of TG's WireGuard Pros, but I'm transferring a 4090 to a new system, with a new PSU, and have been using a similar cable (from the OEM of my previous PSU, terminates in 2 8-pin PCIe) for the past three years with no issues. So the new cable would be a more modern version, but also likely redundant since I have a cable that does the same thing already (both old and new PSU are from the same OEM), the main differences would be it's newer and has more PCIe connectors on the PSU side.

>>108002429
Is it worse for load balancing because of the PCIe cables themselves though? I've heard of people having issues specifically with those Corsair cables, i.e. same card, same PSU, same tests, but when using a different cable, even one with PCIe connectors, they don't experience the same current-distribution issue as with the Corsair cable.
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There is no point in having any card other than the 5080
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>>108002676
Admittedly the Corsair cable has issues with their crimping being too loose and allowing the terminals to move a lot in their housing
But also having split cables means that fundamentally the insertion force will be much more varied than a single connector and milliohms of difference will greatly affect current distribution since these are rated for 5-6 milliohms when in spec.
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>>108002693
why would would you want a 70 class gpu?
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>>108002713
insertion depth*
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>>108002729
Because it rapes AMDs entire lineup in raster alone. That's not even mentioning features.
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>>108002742
for double the price it should do that.
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>>108002750
Well it does. Just stop being poor.
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>>108002750
>but but but the price
Technology costs money
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>>108002772
>>108002778
so where is your 5090?
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>>108002789
>If you don't mind spending double, why don't you mind spending sextuple
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>>108002802
so where is your 5090? just stop being poor you know. technology costs money you know.
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tfw was going to flash my 5090 with a handwritten note that says 'stop being poor' to the guy that said stop being poor without having his own 5090 but can't find a pen and now the moment has passed
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>>108002850
he is in the other thread. the fake and gay one.
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>>108002778
its DOUBLE the price, DOUBLE. Unless the performance is 2x the 9070xt you're getting scammed retard.

And a 5090 is like 5x the price, its ludicrous. Who knows what the pricing will be in 6+months though.
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>>107998870
Why are you retarded? You could have gotten a way better Arc B580 for that price.



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