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full travel linears
>MX2A
>Gat KS-3
>Bad Sweetheart
>Snow Crash
>Vertex V1
>Macchiato
>Oil Kings
long pole linears
>Epsilon
>Ghost Dragons
>BSUN Raw
>BCP
>V2U
>Smoothie/Sea Salt
>Xinhai
tactiles (anything)
>MX2A
>Lichicx
>Haimu
>Gateron
>HMX

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>>108028260
>>108028372
>tl;dr hexgears q3 pro and vxe dragonfly r1 pro ordered
FUCK, I hate having analysis paralysis so much, I can't help it since I am a turbo poorfag, and I have already been rudely reminded that this is not a poorfag friendly hobby.
I ended up ordering the TKL model, I believe I can get used to no numpad. I noticed there are plenty of similar priced options for USD based countries, but when switching Ali to my region, this one ends up being the cheapest option for everything it offers by a considerable margin.
The endless amount of nuances in this hobby is absolutely crazy. But from what I have been researching and listening from youtube videos I managed to round down to plastic body, gasket mount and tactile (or linear) switches for the most fitting build to my use case/tastes.
But it seems that I'm getting a very budget version of what seems to be high end autism stuff, so I hope I won't regret it as my first mechanical keyboard since there are absolutely 0 reviews about this one.

>>108031652
The happy news is that beyond a metal case or a specific case design there really isn't that much true quality variance between a low-end keyboard and an autism deluxe keyboard that doesn't come down to top-mount vs. gasket-mount, switch plate material, and the amount of case noise-dampening installed, the Chinese have done an amazing job in making these things very accessible and higher quality has rendered a few older things like switch films obsolete

>>108031652
You do realize keyboards are better and cheaper now? Don't fret so much and definitely don't listen to retards. Forget the nuances and other things, just buy and forget about it.

I splurged and got some CRP keycaps like you guys suggested

The texture on these is so nice

>>108032516
yeah fuck yeeeaahhhh PICS

>>108031814
>>108032398
Thanks, friends, very reassuring inputs. Not going to stress about it anymore and just enjoy the keyboard when it arrives.

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but picrel works just fine. why should i need more than one keyboard or a custom one?

>>108033776
Wow that is one fucked up looking keyboard

>>108033801
it's from 2008

>>108033776
you don't

are you happy we had this conversation?

So I've been testing the DK1-TKL to make sure it's working correctly and the 1.2mm pcb is really confusing me. It sounds bizarrely awful, especially the spacebar, and the PCB has these legs that don't seem to work with any of the supplied gaskets so I'm not sure what they're for. (Checked with the vendor's discord, I think they were supposed to come with little sock gaskets but these were cancelled at some point between the Chinese GB and the US, maybe due to causing shorts?)

Anyone who has built it with the 1.2mm pcb seems to have done it with the foams. Obviously I wasn't paying attention when I ordered this thing because I didn't realize the 1.2 was covered in meme cuts, otherwise I would have just bought a second 1.6mm pcb.

The color is very far off the renders but that's fine at this price point.

One of the stab cutouts in the aluminum plate is upside down lmao. So I'll need to use a plate mount stab for that key.

Hoping the 1.6mm sounds a lot better. Beginning to think I... should have bought Geon lol.

Moral of the story is that a competent designer matters waaay more than specs on paper. I'll wait and see how the 1.6mm sounds before I pass final judgment on this board, but the 1.2mm should never have been made. Unbelievably, shockingly bad.

shame about the dogshit color tho
but you should be able to make it prettier when you replace those shitty keycaps with good ones

>>108034872
meant to >>108031652

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>>108034881
That thing is begging for a proper Carbon clone

>>108030505
>>108033627
Beige always looks so good
Doesn't matter what color your keyboard is. Effortless

>>108034872
I must be a schizo because I thought you were somehow talking about my keyboard which I didn't post

my nuphy air75 v3 just arrived, low profile is now my favorite, It’s like a combination of scissor and mechanical switches

>>108036337
based low profile Chad
fuck Cherry

>>108035340
yeah but what if you have a beige colored keyboard

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>>108036411
Also good

>>108036504
these TKL versions of model Ms seem kind of cursed

>>108036537
Why?

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>>108036537
There was a "Smurve" keyboard just recently whose big gimmick was having a curved PCB and curved switch plate, curved mounting mechanism, mimicking how Model Ms and Model Fs look in general. And of course it's a TKL because we somehow don't have enough fucking TKLs on the market.

>>108036504
this is cheating
beige BAD

>>108036820
we have apps for calculators now grandpa
get that bloat off my layout
I gotta get my G on and that means TKLs only

>>108036820
Honestly I wonder how it is because the curve on the Model M mostly works to give its keycaps their per row angle. Since most MX caps have the angle baked into them I bet this is pretty weird.

>>108036892
Model M/F's keycaps are effectively Cherry profile, I bet it would probably only really work very well with that or OEM profile. SA or MT3 might collapse in on themselves like a neutron star.

>>108036820
TKLs sell, unfortunately

I wish the W1-AT layout was what moved units, but it isn't

>>108036944
>perfect layout sells
>AI hallucinated POS doesn't sell
what a SURPRISE. A TKL IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL MINUS THE POCKET CALCULATOR AND YOU DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE FUCKING TROON

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I KNOW THIS WORLD IS CHANGING
NEVER GAVE IN, NEVER GAVE UP
TRIBOSYS IS THE ONLY THING I'M AFRAID OF

>>108036949
Oops, looks like you hit the caps lock key accidentally while using your perfect layout.

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Speaking of beige, been considering adding this to the selection of filaments I have for dactyls.
https://www.prusa3d.com/product/prusament-pla-noctua-beige-1kg-nfc/

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>>108036963
Based. Good color. We need more creamy bois

>>108036986
Well if some anon wants a beige dactyl just let me know and I'll order it :^)

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>>108036944
Kinda hard to find good, available kits for the more obscure layouts.

My 21XX took some serious digging for the CRP set I needed to actually fill it out.

>>108036963
You could probably get a lot of mileage out of boomer-beige dactyls

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>>108036999
>21xx
Holy shit this looks amazing. Can't believe I miss this, fuckkkk

>muh ticking spacebars
just use o rings on the keycap stems to the left and right

>>108037209
Just use a TKL
you get your orderly F row
you don't have to use 10 thousand F keys
you don't need keys to your left
fucking Scientologist tier

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Cherry made a custom layout for Scientologists back then
it's just as wacky as these bullshit W-AT tier schizoid keyboards
TKL ONLY

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>The datum here is that power is proportional to the speed of particle flow. This is the real secret behind the prosperity which can arise in connection with a computer operation.
Fucking freaks

>>108037587
>>108037592
based and SOUL unlike generic TKL

SA Fledgling alphas/TKL base/numbers for $104, yay or nay? Some consoomer is selling his unused set that he preordered ages ago and forgot about it until now.

>>108037762
That's a really good deal if you like the colorway.

Still shocked by how bad that DK1-TKL sounds with the 1.2mm pcb, and I'm gonna have to open up the aluminum plate's stab holes with a file tomorrow because even if I put a plate mount stab on the one upside-down stab hole (lmfao) the other ones still don't fit over perfectly normal pcb mount stabs. What a disaster.

Last time I ever go for a "good deal" Chinese groupbuy.

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>>108037762
>Inspired by cheap red hair dye, washed-out Sacramento sunshine, and elaborate coming-of-age metaphors. Spread your wings and fly out into the big wide world.

>>108037830
now you know why flex cuts should be avoided like the plague

>>108037835
I actually already knew that and just didn't read the IC page closely enough lol. The page I ordered from just said "1.6mm pcb" and "1.2mm pcb" and I thought "having more options is good"

Oops.

>>108037831
The designer is a woman.

>>108037762
I can't give a "yes" or a "no" until I know what board you're thinking of putting it on

(Some sets I could give a "no" no matter what, some I could go out on a limb and say "yes" without knowing the plans for them, but this set I would have to know)

>>108037867
It was more of a long-term idea, pairing this with some future polycarbonate board and trying out clicky switches. I wouldn't give it a thought if not for the low price, might be the only time I get an opportunity to try out SA profile caps.

*opportunity to try out SA profile caps without paying full price.

>>108037883
$104 aint exactly a steal. How far off the mark are the $20 clones on aliexpress really? I have some and they're not terrible.

>>108037883
FWIW there's so many SA clones floating around now you could try it out pretty easily for cheap, recommend Kiiboom polycarbonate caps here for that: https://www.kiiboom.com/products/kiiboom-transparent-pc-keycaps?variant=44252806807796
>>108037906
Build quality aside, the profile is accurate on Aliexpress clones.

>>108037910
Oh, right, those keycaps say "ASA", but they're also filthy liars. Those Kiiboom keycaps are as tall as some MT3 keycaps I have laying around and those fuckers are as tall as SA if not a little bit taller on average.

>>108037835
this is why whenever any anon wants to buy a Rainy75 I always try to point them to the special MechanicalKeyboards version that comes with a non-flex-cut PCB:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/mk-x-wobkey-rainy-75-pro-aluminum-75-hotswap-wireless-a-rgb-non-flex-cut-keyboard

Sounds a million times better defoamed than all the other models, yet noobs don't understand the importance of this one obscure little data point at all

Speaking of MechanicalKeyboards who's gonna be the first to try their new double-shot PBT WoB set? Apparently made by Leopold?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/mkl-keycap-set-classic-black-wob

I mean it definitely isn't GMK but who else is making properly kitted double shot PBT WoB around $60 ($40 for TKL base)? I guess Keyreative KAP is close to that.

>>108038251
I only give a shit about matt3o spherical profiles at this point. MT3 has just been king for me. I'm hoping for a MTNU set not manufactured by GMK because I just don't see the value. I'm not like someone who only buys chinkshit clones on ali. I just want a middle ground that doesn't fucking rob me blind for some pieces of plastic.

I got a GMK set on sale for $50 this christmas just to see what the hype was about and I just don't get it. I'm not paying $150+ for this shit.

>>108038251
If it's made by Leopold, that is that it's the same tooling used on their own keyboards, then it's probably pretty good.

That being said I don't really have any excuse to buy any keycap sets atm

>>108038251
>extra B key for splits and alices
>no split spacebar options
huh?? what was the point of the extra B?

>>108038285
I also cannot explain their choice to include two each of 1.5u code and super. I love that it comes with these keys, but when would I ever need two of each...?

>>108038298
>but when would I ever need two of each...?
Perfect storm of being an R3 control guy (need 1.5 super or code) AND having symmetry autism. It's niche enough that maybe they shouldn't do it, but I can easily imagine this guy existing.

>>108038313
It's me. I'm that guy. Although R4 Supers are enough for me.

I cannot tell you how much R3 Control but no R4 Supers bothers me in various kits. DCS kits are especially bad about this.

>>108038390
I'm an R3 control guy, but I'll never be a symmetry autism guy

>>108038251
based as fuck

MX Blacks SCERRAAAYC

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>>108036944
>perfect balance and compromise
>the amount of desk real estate saved is actually noticeably drastic
>gets to save money that otherwise would snowball on switches and caps you'd never use (you aren't a datafag)
the truth is once you go tkl you never go back, its popularity is deserved
if anything i am more annoyed by troon 65~60%s littering the market

>>108037906
>>108037910
yeah I skipped it. This whale also had a green/brown F1 lying around, he said he forgot to build in it so he sold it to me for like $340. My lucky day!

>>108036944
>TKL
maybe geon loves TKLs, for me it feels like 60-65% are the most popular boards.

>>108039740
They've made the main cluster on the 96% a full key width wider than the TKL in spite of being the exact same fucking keys, which is how you know this is a blatantly dishonest hit piece against the plainly superior 96% layout

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>>108038251
Here to ROCK... YOUR... WORLD...
(duke nukem guitar riff)
A keycap set like you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE...
(duke nukem guitar riff)
Get ready... for CHERRY PROFILE, WHITE ON BLACK.

>>108041336
FUCK YEAH
DADDY IS BACK IN BLACK
JUST LIKE MY SCRATCHY CHERRIES

Baionzilla

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>BRO just buy original keycaps BRO think of the poor designers who get fucked by clone sales
>meanwhile the poor designer:
THEY'RE ALL THE SAME
HE RUNS IT LIKE A FIEFDOM
ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE ONLY
LITERALLY BAION TIER LMAO

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I'M A FUCKING DESIGNER
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
IT MEANS I DON'T SEE THE FRONT PRINT
IT'S NOT UNIQUE OR ANYTHING OKAY?
WAIT TILL YOU SEE MY RIP OFF

>>108041336
Well the legends are a bit smaller than normal and it's double-shot PBT, so that's all novelty to me

>>108042131
>>108042160
Makes me feel better about buying GMK DMG that the designer is evidently not a lolcow since I haven't heard anything negative about him.

>>108038251
Correction: it's $48 so more like $50 for TKL base, $67 for full kit.

My bad. I think I just saw "$69 for all three" (TKL, numpad, accent) and assumed TKL+numpad was 69 minus whatever the accents cost and assumed 60ish

(Still very competitive pricing)

How much time did YOU spend filing the fucked up stab holes on the aluminum plate of your "$250 groupbuy keyboard" today? Because I spent three hours

>>108042842
I've never had to do that. I did have to buy silicone feet off amazon to put on the bottom of the pcb and make a makeshift gasket/tray mount because the plate was just too tight for the switches I wanted to use though

>>108042842
Luckily never

I HATE CHERRY PROFILE I HATE CHERRY PROFILE
ALL GMK SETS SHOULD HAVE SA OR ASA CLONES
IT WAS ONLY TOLERABLE ON IBM MODEL KEYBOARDS BECAUSE OF THE SCULPTING OF THE ACTUAL PCB AND CHASSIS

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>>108030505
need wireless keyboard, as i have a leg issue for a few months (broken). Typeing this from computer while sitting in a wheelchair.

Costs: 0-300 USD
Wireless, lights behind the keys, and full size without the number pad, as I'll be balancing the keyboard on my leg cast.

Does not need ricing, but lighting behind the keys are kinda important.
Oh and have a great day and enjoy your bipedal locomotion!

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>>108043722
>lights behind the keys

>>108042842
Not one second.

>>108043325
Now that's cope.
>>108043722
Ducky One III TKL

>>108042842
My condolences. It's posts like these that just make me think "I'm glad I don't use stabilizers anymore."

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>>108044730
Serious cope. You people must be mentally deficit to a debilitating degree to still suffer from stab issues.
They simply don't exist. No no, no no no no no no no.

>>108044946
Yea I don't suffer from stab issues because my board doesn't have any.

MX Blacks (L/F/SS/BI)
Alu V1.1
FR4 1.6MM
GMK Baion

lube those boingy bois up
good practice for playing with the real thing
boy you're all grown up now

>>108043722
join this fag >>108031652 and report back whether you two made a good purchase

>>108045357
no wifi

>>108043722
Logitech.

>>108045746
Ducky One III TKL
do not get Logicrap

Fuck
>https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-one-3-tkl-classic?variant=47991344169260

it's not wireless tho
gotta live with it
gotta get your G on

>>108044706
>>108045802
>>108045813
>Featuring Ducky's QUACK Mechanics design philosophy
Ducky a shit.

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>>108045837
if it QUACKS like a DUCK

Baion

>>108045837
>ducky's special new design philosophy
>look inside
>FL Esports

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Should I gucci plate?

H(MX) Blaecks

>>108046980
sure, why not?

>>108046980
Is this for steel or what? Also if you're doing the countersinking for the screws then the plates are mirrored between sides.

>>108047056
6061
I have two separate left and right model files for this.

kys femboy faggot freak

>>108047081
So three pairs then? That's not a bad price then. What's the thickness? 3mm? What's the weight of each plate?

>>108047091
I always assumed he was joking but I've been spending some time in keyboard discords (for non-gay reasons) and there are unironic femboy tags in there. Between that and /pol/ turning libtard out of nowhere recently I don't know whether to assume people are joking about this stuff anymore. "Dark woke" (being gay) is in a waxing phase, and is announcing itself everywhere.

>>108047162
I doubt it's actually any deeper than being a ritualposter that's attached himself to this general until a /g/ mod regains consciousness and remembers posting a femboy doesn't mean you're on-topic

>>108047173
I serve a vital function
I FLUFF this thread when it goes LIMP

I imagined the opposite, where we had a lazy 'based' poster lazily based posting about Geon to keep the thread bumped.

"GEON isn't for niggers." "How would you have felt if you'd typed that on MX Blacks this morning?" "White man's pick: aluminum top-mount, mx black. Geon only." "Bust a nigger's skull with a Glare TKL" etc

And you know what? That would be worse.

>>108047111
3.2mm/.125 in
Should be around 150g

>>108047281
>150g
Yea that'll certainly make the board more bottom heavy kek. Post pics when you get the plates.

i just dont understand why hes on here accusing normal people that use TKL and MX blacks (aka most of the community) of being femboys when hes the one with a hard drive full of pictures and fluent in femboy lingo, like bro literally nobody agrees with you, give it a rest

>>108030505
>razer huntsman v3 pro TKL 8khz
feels good
any of you slow pokes as fast as me?

>>108047362
purple or reds?

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Beige is love. Beige is life.

>>108032516
Nothing beat CRP texture, not even GMK

PBT just makes every switch thock real deep
it's dogshit if you're a connoisseur of sound

>>108048064
>PBT just makes every switch thock real deep
Stop using overly thick pbt

>>108048080
they're all the same Baion
#keychronthockgang

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that's what you get for straying from GMK!
base alphas and add-on alphas all whacked up
NO REFUNDS

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>give it a rest

I need your help guys. I am looking fot a mechanical keyboard (creamy/thocky feel) (tactile) qwertz/iso-de. What is the cheapest good option for me. I really dont want to dive deep in this rabbit hole and i dont want to pay a fuck sum for this. All i need is a proper keyboard for various work and hobby related tasks (no gaming). I really dont care about backlight and other fancy shit. What is my best option (europe based).

I got a das mac layout keyboard with browns for free and does anyone know if I can flash the firmware of the mcu for the normal non-tranny layout?

>>108049760
Keychron.

Stock foam configurations are usually "thocky", has two tactile options, ISO layouts, not terribly expensive at around $100.

Hard to think of other options that fit your description. Your set of requirements is a bit niche.

Their "banana" switches are the most tactile, but people complain about double-presses. If you're ok with making some alterations to the QMK firmware to extend the debounce timing they might be ok. Otherwise brown might be safer.

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Are there any decent quality, non hall effect keyboards with this layout?

>>108051813
JUST GET A FUCKING TKL IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING WHY WOULD YOU WANT RSHIFT SO CLOSE TO THE ARROWS FFFUCK GET A TKL AND STOP FUCK

>>108051813
Doesn't kbdfans make one? It was a case for the Wooting but you can also buy their MX pcb kit for it to make in an MX board

Baionzilla fr

Actuating MX Bwowns

>>108051813
I really like this layout but I've only really ever seen it on cheap boards.

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I just got my first mechanical keyboard because it was on clearance and I've always wanted to try one, an NZXT Function TKL with red switches (I know, but it was $20 brand new so I figured this was a cheap way to try it out)

>previous keyboard is lower profile so this one feels tall and weird to use
>lightly tapping the keys is as loud as typing on my shitty $15 membrane keyboard
>bottoming out the keys is cataclysmically loud like I'm breaking the crust of the Earth with each stroke

The worst fucking part?

I plug it in and
>eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>THE KEYBOARD HAS COIL WHINE
>only way to stop it is to disable all lighting

Should I persevere and use this shitty keyboard to see if I can get used to typing on a mechanical, however shitty it may be, and then buy a better one later on? Or should I just give up and go back to the reliable $15 membrane?

>>108052586
It's kinda like if TKLs weren't lying about being space-saver keyboards (1800 is about as horizontally long as a TKL and generally sacrifices only two above-arrow cluster keys and a full sized 0 key on numpad)

>>108052604
nigga thought he would get fancy and spend $5 extra, buy something nice

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>>108052678
anti-tkl slander will not be tolerated

>>108053198
TKLers fired the opening shot by lying about 96%:
>>108039740
>>108040891

>>108036504
the ultimate larp keeb gonna buy one for my setup someday

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TKL propagandists don't want you to see what it looks like when you fix their infographics to show the true relative sizes of the layouts in question

I bought an alice and now I don’t want to go back to regular layouts. It has eliminated 99% of keyboards as potential options for me.

>>108054257
Just wait until you go along the true path of split columnar stagger.

>>108054284
not happening. I draw the line here just so that it’s as convenient as possible to switch between this and any office keyboard piece of shit

>>108054511
Until you get yourself a split colstagger board both for work & home.

>>108052720
lol'd

>>108053467
looks like ass
the numpad is useless
TKL 5ever

imagine arguing in favor of a physical numpad in 2026
the free market has spoken
it'll be TKLs over 96% and 100% and whatever the fuck else

Fucking love Vial. Just set up tap dance so I now have a 00 key when I double tap.

>>108054550
it's not about work and home. it's about being able to use the shitty default at any given point in time. an alice is still close enough to a regular ansi layout that switching between the two is pretty much effortless. columnar stagger split is not anything like ansi

>>108055064
I dunno, I can still use a row staggered board if need be even though I've been using split boards for over 10 years now.

>>108054901
>argumentum ad annum in anno domini MMXXVI

>>108055115
ad infinitum
like timeless MX Blaecks

>>108055246
MX Blacks AKA the only blacks allowed on my property. 1488. Praise Geon.

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i tried to get a mechanical keyboard and they cancelled my order and now its out of stock
now i'll never get one
I didnt even want this color but it was all they had left
nowhere else has these for a reasonable price

>>108055425
Good. You ordered the wrong keyboard.

There is only one not-shit variant of the Rainy75. It's the special version that was made for MechanicalKeyboards, which has a 1.6mm thick PCB with no flex cuts. It's still available.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/mk-x-wobkey-rainy-75-pro-aluminum-75-hotswap-wireless-a-rgb-non-flex-cut-keyboard

Thin flex-cut PCBs sound like garbage, they make any keyboard sound cheap and they feel gross. Thick normal PCBs sound good and normal, and they feel solid.

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Recommendations for good hotswap or custom plastic keyboards, preferably full-size? Currently looking at the 8bitdo full-size.

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>>108051813
https://mechkeys.com/collections/fl-esports/products/fl-esports-fl750-hot-swap-mechanical-keyboard?variant=43065455870175

>>108055464
This is what a flex-cut pcb Rainy75 is like when you take out the load-bearing foam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1HELCwFRIY&t=250s
Someone must have thought this would be funny. That's the only way I can explain this.

For those not yet woke on the flex cut question (the FCQ), here is a pretty even-handed video with side-by-side comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhhax5d5NYg

>>108055464
>>108055612
It's funny how ai03's decision to put a flex cut in the Polaris was immediately copied by everyone despite him immediately regretting it and his build guide giving instructions on how to patch it up with tape to improve the sound.

>>108055660
This dynamic is visible in every discipline in the world. The handful of people who really do things are copied thoughtlessly, both their successes and their blunders equally, by middling strivers and hucksters who cannot tell the difference, to impress or to profit from cattle who don't even notice

>>108030535
V1s, Bad Sweethearts and Macchiatos are long pole switches you dumbfuck

>>108055488
Can't go wrong with 8BitDo, my full size KING

flex cut thocc

creamy marbly thocccc

>stab ticks from one corner but not the other
yay fuck my ass

>>108055064
That's a skill issue.

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What's the consensus on good wrist wrests? I never see them discussed here

>>108055464
Well great, an extra 30 but I guess it's not like I have any other options now anyway. And they have black. Probably should have asked if anyone had any other suggestions but I already ordered it.

>>108056086
Wrists rests in general are a scam, use a rolled towel if you absolutely need one

>>108056112
I have another suggestion. Spend another $50 to add their new WoB double-shot PBT keycaps by Leopold to the order right now >>108038251

Email them begging to merge the orders please before it ships

(You won't because newbies always balk at keycap prices, even reasonable ones, I know)

Also add the tiny Filco horsehair brush which is a lifechanging little accessory when you have black keycaps
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-frozen-llama-keyboard-cleaning-brush

>>108056086
They can be attractive but I'm just so used to not using them at this point. I think they tend to encourage you to rest your wrist too much, but since I end up resting my wrists sometimes anyway they might have saved me a little strain sometimes.

With some very tall boards I think a wrist wrest would help a lot. But I try to buy boards with very low front heights, generally.

>>108056086
I see no purpose in using one.

>>108056127
>>108056151
>>108056164
>no purpose in using one.
I'm currently using some old ass hyper-x with cooling foam; I've probably developed some terrible wrist posture habits but it's definitely more comfortable than resting my wrists on the desk while I'm playing a game that requires my left hand to be glued to wasd; probably doesn't help that I'm using a cork pad. Aesthetically it looks like ass.

>>108056086
they are great
get one of those plush leatherette ones from gayming brands
fan-fucking-tastic comfort

>>108056216
ignore those fags
get your plushy wrist rest on

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fuck yeah
look at those thoccy plushies

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MX2As?
Fwuck that!
MX Vints only!

>>108056538
are you jewish?

>>108056538
Fuck yeah MX vints. All the best shit comes from 20th century Germany

When are we getting Copilot addon for the common sets like GMK WoB, Beige, Dolch? This is becoming a standard system key but afaik no IC yet for what should be a pretty straightforward group buy with a big market

>>108056827
nope.

Been using the Leopold FC900RBT for years and very happy with it but I recently acquired a second apartment and need to build a desktop rig there. Shill me a LESS CLICKY mech keeb than the Leopold because thats about the only drawback it has, also the keyboard needs on-demand bluetooth switching as I use multiple computers at once very often.

>>108057002
Less clicky? Are you using MX Blues? Do you prefer clickies only or are you talking about switching to linears?

>>108057019
current switches are MX cherry

>>108057024
lol
I'm guessing they're MX Blues
for less clicky switches, look up Gateron Melodics, or Lanes
there's also the Kailh Box White V2s
these are literally it for clickies
everything else is tactile territory or straight trash
get individual switch packs for these three and see what satisfies you

keygem fag here. after 18months of waiting I just happened to find a perfect cycle7 on ebay for 180€ even in my desired colour. I should have bought that shit earlier. at least now I can make use of all the parts that I ordered a year ago instead of them just sitting around. gonna build it this weekend, its my first time lubing stabs and all the other autistic crap.

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>>108057439
based, i have 3

sent from my cycle 7

>>108057439
>>108057465
Cyclechads

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Zero nicks or dents. Thanks for not using it all that much, previous owner!

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just realized the vertical alignment on GMK symbol legends isn't consistent. my shenpo caps are aligned exactly the way an autist would expect. it's actually over, selling all my GMK sets.

oops wrong pic, but + and - are not even centered together...

>>108056538
Cute feet.

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>>108057853
Just wait until you notice all the other shit.

>>108057853
It's the same on my Keykobos, if that's any consolation.

>>108057205
>less clicky
>melodics
Not sure I'd agree with this...

I'd say he shoud look at something like the new Cherry MX Petal, which is like a brown with a sharper (but still small) tactile bump. This should feel a little bit like a blue without the noise.

>>108057853
don't look at the Shenpo < >

>>108057621
What plate did it come with?

>>108059849
One PC plate. No extra PCB, no nothing, just the Viton and extra screws. Prev owner likely never built in it. No matter, I have a soldered build ready to go after I've once again removed the damned WK blockers.

>>108060067
>after I've once again removed the damned WK blockers.
What? You're going to take off the blockers on the F1? Anon plz

>>108060075
I need my Win key.

>>108060098
Then get a keyboard with a win key slot! Don't disfigure an existing one. Look, the F1 is good, but it isn't *that* good.

Before you disfigure it, at least be certain you're going to be happy with your build. What if you cut off the blockers only to realize you don't care for the keyboard? Then your resale value is shit and you're stuck with a brick.

Especially on a PC plate. I do hope you like a thin keyboard sound.

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>>108060189
Oh, I don't leave my keyboards lying around or resell them. They're all built different. Besides, I made my first F1 WKL as I simply couldn't get used to working without using the Win key shortcuts.
Current one has a mix of OG unlubed BCPs on the alphas and lubed Kailh BCPs elsewhere, it feels uniquely satisfying on the PP plate here, and it's something I couldn't get on my other boards.

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I'll be using this build on the new one, it's from the previous owner of my first F1. PC just doesn't feel or sound right on this keyboard anyway.

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>>108060337
you're nuts

>>108056086
I prefer foam rests that are thick enough to allow my wrists to be straight while typing, but it depends on how tall the front height of my keyboard is. Sometimes I prefer a wooden rest that's a little shorter.

>>108036820
Thinking about getting this one and putting Clickiez in it.

>>108033627
Z

>>108060762
Caлo Укpaинe, cлaвa caлy!

>>108060789
нe пoтyжничaй тyт

>>108060795
Ктo ypoнил caлo - тoт пpeдaтeль кyхни!

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Shout to the anon who told me not to use TRRS. I didn't listen and fried the first MCU, luckily I had a few spares. It was stupid, since I already had a keyboard with TRRS for months, but I still pulled the cable. Now the build is done, it was a lot of fun.

>>108061874
*shoutout

>>108061874
Good thing you had a spare at least. At least next time you know to use something else besides TRRS.

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Does anyone make a keyboard laid out like this?
All the editing keys are duplicated on the numpad anyway, and you can't type special characters like — and × on the number row, so this seems like a much more practical alternative to a TKL.
I'm aware of 1800/96% and I have one, but I don't like the layout compromises necessary to squeeze the arguably redundant editing keys onto a reduced-width board.

Never get a chink keyboard without VIA support, I regret getting a Hi75C Pro and having to hunt down the software in fucking baidu.

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My butthole burns from the cost of this set.

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>I got your G on right here *sluurp*

>>108064088
fuuuuck yeah
it looks nice here I'm sure it looks nicer IRL
consider this set the first of many

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>>108064105
>the first of many
Absolutely not, $230 or so for one singular keycap set made me weep, and I still wish it came in a sculpted profile like MTNU, ASA or just outright SA or MT3.

It does give me an opportunity to color-comparison it to a clone set I bought on Aliexpress, though. Interestingly the gray-and-blue modifiers have a greenish tinge to their coloring.

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>>108064121
The clone's alphanumerics are basically BOW, not beige or cream with blue. They look right in some lightings, but looking directly at them or with bright light gives up the ruse.

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>>108064129
And the clone's burgundy spacebar is a more saturated red than the original.

I've got Whipped Blacks broken-in 1.2 million times
1488 brother

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Based Geon sabotaging the competition

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I have boughted a Model F Keyboards beamspring keyboard. Ask me how I wasted my money.

>>108064382
you didn't

>>108064401
I sure hope so, because I was enraptured by the idea of "better buckling springs that are MX keycap compatible."

>>108064405
sounds so fucking good

>>108064121
My lessons from buying a GMK keycap set:
>GMK is an overrated keycap manufacturer
>Their primary virtue is, however, that they're willing to do basically fucking anything you want with them that's within their means to do
>I'm impressed by the transparent window Caps Lock and Num Lock keys you can buy with GMK DMG's battery light novelties
>GMK keycaps cost waaaaaaay too much

You know what I haven’t seen so far. Hobbyist with their TGRs, Singas, and Keycults complaining that they don’t think GMKs are worth it and would rather use clones or keycaps from unknown manufacturers.

>>108064589
I think GMK basically falling off the map for "the keyboard hobby" is a lighter version of this in practice, there isn't the sheer fanatic furor for GMK that there was in previous years. You have your pick of the litter for keycap sets unless you want something EXTREMELY specific and a clone doesn't exist for it.

2026 GEONWORKS Roadmap

GLARE TKL R2 (Q1, Group Buy)
Minor changes to internal design.

F1-60 722 EC, MX (Q2, In-stock & Group Buy)
Prototype production started today; details will be revealed soon via YouTube stream.

F1-65 (Q3, In-stock)
Production is currently about 20% complete.
A total of 600 units (Global & Korea combined) will be available.

GLARE60
Aiming for shipping within Q1.

F2-8X TKL V2 (Q4, In-stock)
Additional design details to be included.
Aiming to start production in Q2.

New Projects (Small Batch In-stock)
Independent projects such as AT and Split layouts are in preparation.

GMK & Entry-level Modules/Pre-builts
Strengthening collaboration with GMK; expanding licensed products in line with improved Euro exchange rates.
Expanding accessible product lines to attract new users.

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>>108064380
>Soigear

>>108064382
Good luck anon. Expect some head-scratching labour

>>108064635
when new run of f1-8x v2?

>>108064635
F2-8X V2 huh? Should be interesting, considering they can just sail ahead by releasing F1s over and over again.

fuck you if you use anything but MX Blaecks

nk whipped creams are acceptable
browns idk
I'm nuts for MX Blacks

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>>108056538
cute af

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>die at Pompeii
>get reincarnated in the 21st century
>find out zee Germans are profiteering off your past life's tragedy
it's the Sack of Rome all over again.

>Budget
+- 230
>Location
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Tactile, currently using gat browns but open for suggestions
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%, 98% but willing to try a TKL
>Backlight
solid color backlight is fine but not a dealbreaker
>Previous/current keyboards
Keychron V6 and not a fan

>scatchy Cherries are endgame
this sounds like satire

>Budget
$250
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
red
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
80% or 75%
>Backlight
per-key rgb
>Previous/current keyboards
Keychron K3

i cant fucking find anything that fits these

>>108066256
>>108066449
LOCATION EUROPE
PER KEY FULL BACKLIGHT
GUYS GIVE IT UP ALREADY

how can i get my left shift key back on
it's got 3 of those plus things but it doesn't seem to want to attach to all of them

>>108067021
nevermind i managed to get it on seconds after posting this
although it doesn't seem to be quite as clicky as my other keys

>never dealt with mechanical keyboards
>found one in the bin at work
>A key is not working
>it's not the cap
>it's not the switch
>tried the software fix and did nothing
>factory reset did nothing
I don't know what I'm doing. What else do I check and how do I check? Keyboard in question is the Royal Kludge RK61.

Sold a lot of my keyboard stuff and went Geon. I have 1.) self harvested MX blacks 2.) mechanically broken in MX2A and 3.) mechanically broken in hyperglide blacks. All are filmed, spring swapped and lubed - what should I put in this thing for a consistent thing I'll never want to open up and fuck with ever again?

>>108067084
which pcb and plate?

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Pudding keycaps in SA profile from a "Sumgsn" brand on Amazon, $25 and has color options

>>108036963
Hey dactylman what's your opinion on low profile dactyls (e.g. kaihl choc based, or the other LP switches around)?
I'm a laptop keyboard enthusiast. I've seen LP keyboards gain a lot of popularity among fags building flat splits like cornes and whatnot, but I haven't really seen a lot of LP dactyls and curves keyboards. I wonder if it's just due to a lack of overlap between preferences or if high travel keys simply make more sense in a curved keywell even if one prefers low travel normally.

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k my first time, finally done with this autistic bs.

cycle7
gateron ks-3 milky pro yellow switches
monacokeys classic pbt keycaps

replaced my filco majestouch 2 tkl which I used for the last 10 years. have never cleaned or taken care of the filco and it worked perfectly. so far I hate this gay ass layout, missing the f-keys. the fucking alu case is also way heavier than I expected. already miss the weight of filco.
well at least I have something new, maybe my initial keygem order will arrive in another 18 months. who knows at this point?!

>>108068717
If you like the F-keys, why on earth did you buy an Fkeyless board?

>>108068717
bro went for the infamous "unicomp model M" colorway

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>>108068889
(picrel)

>>108068849
I ordered a techbear8 board from keygem 18 months ago, which does have f-keys. They still haven`t delivered anything and they keep lying about the status of the order and based on their blog post they are in extreme debt (-80k afaik). I was optimistic about this whole thing a year ago and already bought a custom usb cable, artistan keycap, keycaps, switches, duroc stabs etc. The stuff kept lying around for the last 12 months and as things currently go I would have probably never used the parts. Found a really cheap used cycle7 board last week and decided to use it in the meanwhile, at least know I can make use of all the parts I ordered.

>>108068928
That's fair, I guess.

>>108067330
>techbear8
An older Hineybush board, aluminum or half aluminum I'm not sure yet.

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>>108068467
Personally I don't see much point in low profile switches when the board itself is very much not low profile. Changing things like the switch or keycap height will affect how the curve feels though. So if someone just prefers the feel of LP switches it's not like I'm gonna stop 'em from making a dactyl with them.

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>>108030505
Got my hands on a nice beige BenQ 6312-TA, its definatelly mech but im not sure the type, it kinda feels like cherry browns

It matches my white mouse except for the cable, where can i get a white USB to type C cable for my mouse that actually flexes enough to be decent in a mouse?

I'm considering moving from a regular non-mech keyboard, found those 2 that caught my eye:
https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-rt100
https://keydous.store/products/nj98-keyboard?variant=49678550139200

and the HE version:
https://keydous.store/products/nj98cp-he-v3

but im afraid that it would be too sensitive and too loud?
i heard some people misclick too often because switches are too sensitive? are those switches fine?

>>108036999
Usecase for recessed sides on a big key?

>>108069859
For keys like a stepped capslock, the raised portion of the key is actually a little bigger than a 1U key. The step is just there to make it harder to inadvertently press the key.
Stepped keys with a 1U key popping out of it are like tits on a bull.

Never buying a moonsgeek keyboard again. The wifi sometimes doesn't wanna work and half of the keys are repeating Jesus fuck, how do I fix this I spend 100 dollars

>>108067050
A trace in the pcb is probably broken, use a multimeter to check for continuity then fix the trace.

>>108069744
Wow, they are both horrible. If you want something fuck ugly like those check out 8bitdo's keyboards.

>>108070325
So far feels like every single anon who has bought Akko has found it defective

I know it can't really be 100% but it really feels that way

>>108068928
fucking nightmare

puts the minor GDK DK1-TKL problems in perspective

I've been having issues desoldering (cherry) switches without a soldering pump. Is there a way that actually works well or should I just get a pump?

>>108068717
WHY didn't you get a TKL if you miss the F-row keys?

>>108068928
woops nevermind me
>>108069498
Hiney TKL one PCB from 2022? Doesn't matter
just pair the PCB with full alu v1.1 (the 1.5mm thicc one)
use the MX2As they have the best tooling of all MX Black generations you'll be good forever

So which amazon or aliexpress GMK clone are best

>>108071916
A good desoldering pump or iron will make it so much easier. If it's something you know you'll be doing regularly I'd suggest the hakko FR301.

MAKE SURE YOU'RE MODDED YOUR STABILIZERS
AND TESTED YOUR SPACEBAR
BEFORE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER

>>108068717
People are gonna be REAL MAD at you for not enduring artificial scarcity (e.g. Singa), endless groupbuys, and then paying $1.5k for something like this lmao.

>>108071916
Get a DS017 Soldaput. It's super easy. I can clear a TKL in 30 minutes with one.

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creamy thoccy switches are the meta
get your creamy thoccies on

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Anyone else enjoy creamy long pole bottom-outs with lots of lube?

>>108067050
throw it back in the bin

>>108067050
Just put it back. It was in the bin for a good reason.

Baionzilla

>>108072050
I paid 150€ for the board and probably another 200 for the artisan keycap, usb cable, keycaps, durock stabs, switches.

>>108071934
here is why >>108068928

Excluding GMK and Hammer, who makes grail tier beige caps?
no I don't want Ali clones or some shit with low quality prints

>>108033776
If operating systems were keyboards, that one would be GNU/Linux.

>>108074041
the new SWG beige are ok, otherwise pay up

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Is this really how I'm supposed to use my keyboard? It's a 75% but I keep missing my strokes or pressing two keys at once when touch typing because I'm a retard

>>108074334
Yes. The wrists should be floating and level while typing.

>>108074183
>it's just better m'kay

anyone else use thread tape on their stabs? i just lube them and if they're still rattly i fold a bit of thread tape over 2-3x and put it on the stab stem and 90% of the time it fixes it. i fucking hate 'tuning' stabilizers.

>>108074334
Kb should still be in fron of you imo.

>>108069646
For me the draw of LP is the reduced finger travel. It's probably a preference like anything else, some people love 80g springs while others find anything above 20g too heavy, and personally I like it better when I don't gotta press down for 3-5mm to actuate a letter.
I guess there really isn't just much of an overlap in preferences then, between fags building low profile ultra lightweight switches and fags building big dactyls.

>>108074400
no I mean the location of the board itself
it's all the way to the left and that's also how I've used it, now I can't fucking switch
>>108074600
that's what causes my mistypes, I might as well stay with what I know.

>>108074618
>no I mean the location of the board itself
That should be centered such that the center between the two homing keys (f & j) is lined up with the center of the monitor.

stabs sit below the spacebar stem when stabs are fully extended no wonder they fucking tick I wwaw

nvm just stuffed some tissue on the keycap ends now it's gucci

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>>108074041
Give Shenpo a try. They're quite good!

>>108074041
/dev/tty MT3 are among the best boomer keycaps on the planet
Followed shortly by literally any IBM Model M inspired beige keycap set you can find because the quality differentials on keycaps are so low these days it really doesn't matter

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>>108074041
>who makes grail tier beige caps?
DCS are my personal favorite. They're very creamy looking. DCS INTRO Beige are still in stock if you're in the US.

>>108075598
What the fuck? I wish I knew about it earlier, this one would be right at home on my upcoming red S100.

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Also nice thing about DCS, unlike GMK and its clones, is that the corners are rounded, rather than squared off. Most keyboard chassis have rounded corners, so it's always bothered me so much how GMK caps clash with most chassis corners.

>>108075650
GMK is a slave to Cherry profile (or "CYL" as they try to call it now to, quote them, "differentiate it from MTNU", regardless of that making no sense)

>>108075650
You are wrong or new to the hobby.

Gmk is the highest quality keycap you can buy. Alot of companies are getting there with pbt, but it's not gmks level.

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>>108075954
Anon, there is nothing incorrect about my post. GMK keycaps do not have rounded corners, unlike DCS. I didn't say anything about their quality, just that their corners aren't rounded and this visual discrepancy with the way most custom chassis are designed has always bothered me.

>>108075916
How many boring off white sets with minimal variation keep getting queued; only to make whatever gets designed that is actually unique have an even longer wait period. Do that many people need the same thing but slightly different with sublegends they arent gonna use?

>>108075650
This is also specifically why OEM profile exists, Cherry/CYL has clearance issues with a lot of chassis designs
>>108075975
I think it was first-come-first-serve on their commissions? Which granted doesn't help the case that people commission GMK for a lot of boring keycap designs. But hey they're the ones with tens of thousands of dollars in group-buy money to make that commission

Spend less then. Just don't buy GMK clones. You can get keycaps that are not clones from as little as $15. Why do you have to get GMK clones? Oh I see, you think they're the best designs, right? It's your most favourite keycap design you've ever seen... but you just don't want to pay for it, right?

You want the best? Pay for it.

FUCK GMK

>>108075995
I will never again be caught fucking D E A D paying $200+ for one keycap set.

>>108076055
There's a REASON you want the GMK sets. It's because they're good, and because no large, money grabbing organisation will invest the time and effort to design them with the same flair, diversity and originality. Yes, originality. They don't have the passion. I know some are similar to one another, but look at the ones that everyone wants... Olivia, Botanicals, Samurai... you think they're just coloured pieces of plastic? Then why do you all want them so much then? If it's all so easy, and they're all so overpriced, why not design your own? Go on big shots... put your money where your mouths are. Go on... post up your keycap designs.

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>>108076183
No.

nu
>>108076217

Daddy's gonna fuck my ass this Sunday

Milky lubed Baions

>>108076183
shut up