>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 9950X3D*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.*On Raptor Lake microcode is mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8GB-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 9070, 5070, 9060xt 16GB-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k: 9070xtHigh-end: 5090*Keep an eye on your 12VHPWR on high end cards with high power draw.>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>108044928
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.Assless chaps are no longer mandatory. This week only nipple pasties will be allowed.>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
I just used a kryosheet on my 9850x3d and i have an average idle of 60°C
Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo>Intel + Radeon = Schizo>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
>>108051995OP here, I fugged up. >GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090Good luck finding GPUs and RAM, everyone. Lots of stories about canceled orders from vendors.
>>108052035State your cooler for reference, anon.9950X3D here with Kryosheet and an Arctic LFIII Pro, 51C idling/shitposting.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-5060-and-rtx-5070-see-a-sudden-jump-in-popularity/Blackwell and nicojeet lost
>>108052095Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan
>>108052035>average idle of 60°C>>108052108Seems a little high? Wat do other anons think?
Thank fucking god that MSI was smart enough to account for dual-tower coolers by moving the DIMM slots further away from the socket, and that Thermalright has those cutouts because I can just BARELY squeeze the 120mm fan directly on top of G.Skill's stout heatsink.
So I just read my 9070XT uses PTM7950, does that mean I don't have to change the thermal interface ever? Or it degrades after a while?
>>108052235>towersboomer tech
>>108052262never have to change it
Something tells me this shit is going to leak out on all sides while leaving nothing in the center because I used way too fucking much and it will stink up the entire build as a result once air starts flowing.Good thing I won't be using this CPU for long.
I'm going to use pcpartpicker to assemble my dream pc and then I am going to build it.I just hope my bank doesn't decline my card this time. I got locked out of my bank but it's obviously still my bank so I can still make transactions in-person but I've been too lazy to get online transactions "fixed."To be honest money isn't even real but most people don't truly get what I mean when I say that.Like, think about this.What is stopping you from going to Best Buy and just taking one of their PCs on display, and then formatting the drive? Brand new PC.B-But you stole. And? This proves my point. Money is an illusion. Now obviously I'm not going to do that as it involves having to go to Best Buy in the first place.
Yep, I'm definitely going to have to pay child support...
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2026/02/another-panther-lake-milestone-better-than-series-s-performance-in-alan-wake-2https://images.digitalfoundry.net/1d183538aaad7/new1.large.jpgINTEL WON
Got an i7 12700 CPU based workstation. Was planning to upgrade it for a long time. Yet the prices of memories now skyrocketing and having 64 MB installed, I decided to to keep the platform (LGA 1700) and upgrade everything else. Already got better mobo, SSD, VGA etc.But what CPU would you recommend? I was thinking about i9 12900KF, can get it quite cheaply, but the performance difference doesn't seem worth it. So thinking about i9 13900x or i9 14900x, yet I'm not sure about the stability of these CPUs. Are they "all bad" or are these bad pieces exceptionary? I need stability of my PC for my work.
>>108051995c-cute
>>108052401you're stuck with what you have basically. no upgrade would be worth it afaik
i have an asus rog zephyrus g16 the last model not the newest and it's dogshit and has basically fried itself i am just going to get a proper pc again i have to i need to.i need to consume i need to get starlink too.in fact i need to get rich.i need to gamble all my money on a memecoin
>the industry once again proves consumers are dumb, panicky animals
>Nvidia gained more 5070tis from Dec-January than AMD has sold 9070s AND 9070 XTs since launch
>>108052462>and it's dogshit and has basically fried itselfI been using lenovo legion for years works just fine
Fuckin' hell, that was actually a picture perfect application on my part. Had a feeling I didn't need to take it off lest I waste the paste but I was too curious. Hoping next time it doesn't spill out cause I can smell that and it annoys me when I smell thermal paste.
idk i read that the specific line of laptop i got has fundamental hardware/software issues and that i got memed on as per usual in the gaming laptop-sphere.
>coldplate has the same effect as an optical discNice... wait were those scratches on the coldplate there before? Wtf? Did I do that? Why the fuck did I not take pictures before taking off the sticker after doing the dry test...
Are expensive MBs are meme, should I just get a gigabyte b850 gaming x?
>buy case that comes with a few preinstalled 120mm fans>even at minimum speed they're loud and hum annoyinglyIs it worth buying these rubber fan mounts and seeing if they help?
Just swapped out the motherboard for the first time on Linux. It's so nice to boot it back up and it just werks instead of yelling at me about hardware changes and rearranging my drive letters and broken drivers like it used to be on Windows. What a treat.
>>108052658I have used similar rubber mounts with good effect. Cheap to try anyway.
>>108052700Based fellow loonix chad
>>108052473Does AMD even care about it now, considering the redstone release i think they moved all the radeon team to support AI features like the AI bundle and RoCm and sony probably wants to lock all the cool stuff behind ps6
Someone stop the rape of gamers!
>>108051995how do cases like this even function?that airflow must be absolute dog shit
>>108052516>when I smell thermal paste.wtf
pure rock pro 3, good? bad?
>>108051995I was considering a Z20 from Jonsbo myself so I looked into it and yeah, reputations of cases having their PSU at the front instead of an intake fan is not great.It could work with a low TDP GPU and CPU combo I guess if you want a LAN box to bring around at your friends place. Open the side panel for a free 10°C drops when needed.
>>108052473AMD new strategy is to focus on the 9060 XT, all the 9070 XT dies are going to R9700 PRO cardshttps://wccftech.com/amd-is-rumoredly-prioritizing-8-gb-gpus/
>>10805240112th is the last good LGA1700 generation, else you risk it, also power draw is even worse going forward. I'd absolutely not buy used 13/14th. If you buy new then you might be rolling the dice and certainly must have the latest motherboard BIOS. I just wouldn't and keep the 12700K, it's actually amazing still to this day and all-purpose.
>>108052920das rite, gaymers
Wtf is the point of the fan controller on the Pure Base 600 if only ONE extra fan is supported? The RG4T had support for 6...
FUCK FUCK FUCK AMD BROS
>>108052902I think the OP case is actually the Mechanic Master C24, but it looks very similar.I have actually used a Jonsbo Z20 myself because I thought it looked neat, and it does, but after a while I ended up buying a regular ATX case because I realized I valued cooling and ease of building more than occasionally looking over at my case and thinking "neat".It's a very cramped case and the way you have to unscrew and remove different parts to gain access to other parts is a pain in the ass, it's like playing Tetris.The front PSU sounds like it might be a good idea since it means it can get fresh air from the front, but in practice my PSU fans hardly ever actually spun up so it was wasted. So instead you have to do bottom to top fans. The air coming out of the top of the case was pretty fucking toasty, and even then the airflow sucked because the 24pin ATX cable was directly in the way of those two fans.It does look nice and it's definitely built like a tank, but it just had too many downsides and annoyances for me to stick with it long term.
>>10805308640 minutes until financial report
>>108053086oof, more than one whole point negative over AMD
>>108052920>all the 9070 XT dies are going to R9700 PRO cardsThe market for Radeon Pro cards isn't big enough; 9070 XTs will be manufactured.
>buy the zotac solid 5070 instead of asus dual>realize my case only has 280mm gpu support with hdd cages>its ok cuz it will be a dual slot card>lol no, because ACTUALLY THE NVME SLOT TAKES UP THE FIRST PCIE SLOT SO IT PUSHES DOWN UR GPU INTO THE DRIVE CAGE PATH LOLOL>this means no matter what I'm going to be fucked because the GPU will end up sacrificing 2/5 drive baysFUCK MY LIFE
>>108053169>having drive cages in 2017+9holy shit ngmi...
>>108051995The sudden masculine urge to build a cute, mini pink pc :3 (for myself)
>>108053169i chopped mine off to get the GPU to fit in...
I'm still on a 5900X, should I get a Ryzen 9000 or wait 2 more years for the next gen?
>>108053225I own 4 HDDs and 4 SATA SSDs
Is Nvidia abandoning MSRP?
>>108053315>Is Nvidia abandoning MSRP?kek whatever the market will bear
Does the 5070 realistically even need a triple fan cooler? 980 Ti's were 250W and 2 fans just fine, cool, and quiet, right?
>>108052393it's a pretty good laptop APU if it's half the price of the AI max 385 (the cheapest portable 385 starts at around $2000).but compared to discrete GPU's, you could buy a used 1660 super / TI for less than $100 on ebay and it would have the same performance (and yes, the 1660 ti/s has mesh shaders so it can play alan wake 2, but it will stop getting game ready driver updates right now I think, but it will get regular driver updates for a couple more years).Also the framework AI max 385 mainboard is a ripoff ($840 +but you need a case + nvme + psu + 120mm fan so it's like $1100) because you could build your own PC with a 5060 ti 8gb and it would get 50% more FPS while being a little bit cheaper (but you will only get 16gb of ram, the 385 needs to share ram with the GPU so 32gb is more like 24gb, and for AI it's more practical for 16gb models and the 5060 TI 16gb / 9070 16gb would get decently faster token speeds, not like any 16gb AI models are worth using at all).Also I heard that the pantherlake laptops are going to start at $1500, which makes sense, I assume the cheaper APU could be $1200 (I assume, maybe the handheld could be $1000).
>>108053387Triple fan coolers are usually quieter than duals, no? It's not that it "needs" it, it's that it's more luxe.
>>108052095> 9950X3D here with Kryosheet and an Arctic LFIII Pro, 51C idling/shitposting.Same CPU here, 39°C with Duronaut and ALF3 420 @617rpm @22°C ambient.The case is a ProArt PA602 (Wood Edition Metal Panel) with excellent airflow that only required minor modding of the top mesh cover so the thick radiator would fit.
>>108053387No, but it's louder and gets hotter. If that doesn't bother you than it doesn't matter.
>>108052657im still on x370 from 2017. Aside from psu the only original part from that build
>>108053400>dgpu>laptop
>>108052658they are kind of a meme. Shit fans will not suddenly stop being shit fans and good fans dont need rubber mounts in the first place. dont waste more than 5$ on this experiment
>>108053264Wait for Nova Lake coming in Q4 this year. 16+32+4 cores and 288MB L3 will blow Zen 6 out of the water!
>>108052035>i have an average idle of 60°Cmy 9950x3d idles at like 51c with around 22c ambient on my nhd15
>>108053300i have 5 HDDs active but they are in a NAS. My current PC is the first one with all-SSD local storage...Can't beat the price/tb of spinning rust still though, so it's an ideal solution for storing basically anything that isn't an application.
>>108053486>ideal solution for storing basically anything that isn't an application
>>108053479But what if I don't want Intel because it's icky and yucky?
>>108052401I bought a few months ago an used i9 13900k mobo/ram combo for my software dev. I have been using it just fine for 6 months straight no issues. What I did was to cap VID requests to 1.4v and the thing simply won't die.I'd advice you to buy raptop lake only if you put a VID cap
>>108053486>>108053513>so it's an ideal solution for storing basically anything that isn't an application.iSCSI?
>>108053479>25 ring stops, possibly even more>chiplets>snooping 288mb of cache every time before dram>3 core architecturesthis sounds like a latency/scheduling horror movie. It's probably going to excel in their internally used SPEC testing suite and constantly fall short in the real world... I'm not holding my breath. I hope it's good though.
>>108053616What even is a ring stop it sounds retarded. They should just do standard MESI protocol or something
Any big hand anons here? What mouses do you use to avoid claw gripping the small or "normal" sized ones?
>>108053754It's a core-to-core interconnect that was originally designed for quad cores.it's just worrying to me that their approach to competing with AMD is just brute forcing as much logic and cache onto a chip as possible. Single core is still king, having a glorified dual-channel datacenter cpu isn't going to translate into anything meaningful in the real world... Ohhh 288mb of cache? Who cares? You could get a sapphire rapids xeon with 100+mb of L3 and it would still be obliterated in Gaymes by an i7-12700 because it's a huge sprawling cpu that offers nothing important to most users except a shitload of cores and memory bandwidth. Except Nova Lake isn't even going to have the latter...I really need to see this thing in action and not just cinebench scores.
>>108053404Usually quieter and cooler due to the greater surface area, though they usually get 90mm-100mm fans instead of 100-120mm fans like some dual axial coolers.I'm just wondering why the hell we've moved away from prioritizing density in dual slot coolers like we used to even on poultry xx60 and xx70 cards. It's fucking up case compatibility requirements.
>>108053430>If that doesn't bother you than it doesn't matter.If I'm building in a Pure Base 600 right now so it is very much bothering me because on one hand you get more surface area and get de-shrouding potential, great, on one hand the fucking clearance and sag gets worse.I might just trade in in the fucking thing if it ends up being too much of a heartbreaker but I doubt that would be as elegant as just buying the thing you should have from the start, but options were limited and in times of such desperation people will usually go for the best thing they possibly can for the money regardless of anything else.
>>108053426>DuronI remember those chips
>>108053776How big are you talking? L gloves? XL?
>>108052920>RDNA 3 revenue last december>583 milliions>RDNA 4 revenue this december>843https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1276/amd-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2025-financial-resultsWell that explains why they are no longer making 9070 XT's., AMD's full-year 2023 gaming segment revenue was $6.2 billions while RDNA 4 launched and only got them 3.9 billions
>>108053891Also the craziest thing its that nvidia that year was in shambles with $9.1 billion and -27% and looked like AMD would go on to dominate but two years later nvidia is about to present over 16billions from the gaming segment alone which includes ryzen cpus and console on amd side
>>108051995guys Windows just overwrote my Radeon drivers :(why does this happen? it didn't happen when I had a GTX 1080
>>108053167>market for Radeon Pro cards isn't big enoughNot as much as Nvidia Quatro but you would be surprised how many "desktop AI workstations" are being sold or ordered through 2026.
>>108053929Windows driver fuckery. Ask over in /fwt/ how to prevent that (permanently).
>>108053949thanks I forgot about that thread
>>108053891The majority of AMD's gaming revenue comes from semi-custom console processor sales btw.Their gaming revenue tanks when Sony orders fewer chips.
>>108053945If you're considering a Radeon Pro, you skip the bullshit and buy Quadros at your company's expense.
Which 5070 models are particularly good or bad?Beyond the model number I don't know shit about GPUs but they still fluctuate quite a bit in price and other details like the noise or cooling or whatever the fuck. Like how good or bad are the differences in quality when dealing with the same model card from different manufacturers?
>>108051995My gf (you wouldnt know her, shes goes to a different school) is trying to build a dual GPU PC. She wants to know how building a dual GPU system is different from from a traditional single GPU system. Remember this is her first time trying something like this so shes kinda clueless
>>108052266They just work!
retard here, is there any definitive guide for arranging fans for optimal flow, configuring curves and shit? my cooling's a mess and i want to take the time to do it right
I have to say two things for sure about be quiet! cases so far, they smell really fucking good and the mechanical quality is like nothing I've experienced before. I've really been missing out all these years.>>108054159Pic related, it just werks. So does having side fans with a similar principle.
>>108054159literally just have all intakes and one exhaust in the back
>>108053861Fuck if I know anon, I don't have a measuring tape at home and I just wing it with the gloves I buy for cheap in market. I'm 6' 7" in height if that helps
>>108053812>xx60kek even xx50 is fuckhueg despite the pcb being a fucking network card.
>>108053929Based Windows.
>>108053776im 6'3 and use pic rel, anker brand and the wired version. think it was $15.
>>108054159Front intakes, back exhaust.140mm fans will generally be quieter than the equivalent 120mm fans because they can spin slower to produce the same airflow so are good if your case can fit them.A program called Fan Control will give you excellent control over fan speeds, you can set your own custom curves for example to have your case fans off/low speed until your CPU/GPU hit a certain temperature. (You can do this in your BIOS also but I find it easier to experiment in Windows)
>>108054173WrongYou want a wind-tunnel design, you want the most amount of airflow you can get because that is the more "surface area" of air taking temperature out of the radiators/fins.high fan rpm, low ambient temps too.
>>108054169love me shadowbase 800
For gamedev/gaming/coding should I look at intel or just stick with ayymd? And if intel are the core ultras any good or nah.
>>108054169How are the included fans?Thinking of buying some 140mm fans and the Pure Wings 3 are £12 each.My other options would be to buy a 3 pack of Thermalright TR-TL-C14C for £14, or a 5 pack of ARCTIC P14 Pro for £30. I just don't know if the PW3 are worth 3 times the price of the Thermalrights.
>>108054078Some cards will run louder & hotter than others, with a stricter maximum power limit.It can be toned down with a stricter power limit & an undervolt.ASUS Prime is usually the better entry-level model.
Just moved my setup into a new case.Now my CPU cooler (Peerless Assasin 120) is making strange howling/humming sounds at different speeds and sometimes when it changes speeds.Is there some fucked up resonance vibrations happening, and if so, how fix? Just unclip and reseat the fans on the heatsink and pray for the best?
Anyone have leads on 10th or 11th gen Intel? I don't need like an i9 or anything but spending more than 100 bucks seems excessive and everyone is charging more than that...
>>108054344Add him to the list boys...
>>108054352Sorry, goyim. You vill have to pay for ze cpu.
Where are the 140mm CPU coolers?Where are the 200mm case fans?
can we just get it over and make VRAM swappable?I would buy even a fucking 5050 just to get it.
>>108054054>Quadrosoldfag.RTX Pro is what they call them now.
>>108051995those Medical Mechanica cases are so nice, I just wish the C26 was wide enough so it could hold a 120mm fan at the back and 160mm cpu coolers. It would be just the right size if it could. The C28 is too long for a compact matx case. Yes I know you need 500cm long cases to fit modern GPUs, I don't give a fuck about those, I'm not a child.
>>108054344You get what you pay for; you didn't pay for high-quality fans when you bought that CPU cooler.Some copers say they fixed the issue with a rubber gasket between the fan and the fin stack.Something like this.https://www.amazon.com/Anti-vibration-Rubber-Silicone-Absorption-Computer/dp/B073XJLBGJ
>install sound card>install driver>works>plug in front panel audio connector to sound card>pci device is gonebruh
>>108054470Get an external dac
>>108054450I bought an assassin 120r digital. One tower, one fan. It cools my 265k to 75-80 during cinebench multithread 10 minute run, well ventilated case. That being said, it’s a 265k and I was interested in its thermal behavior.
>>108052311So I never have to change it? Not even 5 years?
>>108054520Not surprised that a single tower cooler can handle a 265K's multithreaded Cinebench loads.Arrow Lake has a decently power-efficient E-core, unlike the Gracemont power virus.You need to set custom fan curves to avoid the RPM ranges where that resonance gets noticeable.
>>108053812I don't get it either, I have picrel and with a single a12x25 fan it can cool ~250W no problem, 2.5 slot only, but minimal length and almost completely noise free unless you have zero case airflow. Design something similar where the heatpipes sit low and the fins are "recessed" to keep the height low, and you could keep cards at ~26cm length, 2.5 slot height, and exchangeable standard 120mm x 25mm fans which push way more air and run far quieter than the garbage 90x12mm axial fans they put on GPUs.shit you can just deshroud a modern gpu, remove the axial fans and zip tie 120x25 fans on them and get half the noise and better cooling. Of course that doesn't help with the cooler being 30cm long on a 5050.
>>108054169> Pic related, it just werks.You can't take in double as much air as you exhaust. This means that you either have to have the rear fans spin much faster (and louder) or run nearly as many fans as exhaust as you run fans as take in. A slight overpressure from front fan intake is okay though.
>>108054482why when i have a pci slot
>>108054549That TIM is formulated for processors on laptops and other hard-to-service devices.PTM 7950 won't retain its thermal conductivity forever, but it will last long enough that you're more likely to get a new video card before you have to deal with replacing the TIM.
>>108054556disable the turbo clock garbage so it doesn't boost itself to 5.5GHz at 1.4V any time you move the mouse, and a single tower cooler will keep it cozy under cinebench. modern CPUs all come overclocked up the wazoo by default.
>>108054579Because a USB dac would just work instead of whatever is happening in your PC right now, tard.
>>108054549the thermal pads on the memory will go bad before it
>>108054584>>108054596Thanks, pretty cool stuff.
>>108054556>chessWhat
>>108054608>Creating a worthwhile opponent for the game of chess has been one of the most fascinating tasks for computer programmers for decades.>In this test we're using the highly popular Stockfish chess engine to calculate optimal moves in a chess scenario.>Each CPU is running at the fastest instruction set supported, including AVX512-VNNI, AVX256-VNNI, AVX512, BMI2 and AVX2.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-7-265k/7.html
>>108054169My case with an NH-D15 G2.
>>108054243I thought about buying that tower used but kept to the humble purebase 600
>TIL ASUS uses PTM 7950 on their GPUsShitI heard the Dual 5070 doesn't get hotter than like 70c in Furmark, no idea about noise though cause there's no fucking review data on this card
>>108054399I removed those bugsI removed those bugs
>>108054630That makes a lot more sense.>>108054673I grabbed mine right when they were getting rid of Amazon stock. Best $79 I ever spent.
>>108054676are your front, top and rear fans turned off or what
>>108054676>not going with all intakesngmi
>>108054685The 5070 FE draws around 230~260 of power under FPS-unlocked gaming loads.It can be undervolted to draw between 190~220W while retaining stock performance if you didn't lose the silicon lottery.You don't need a beefy cooler for that power load, but dual-fan coolers will have to run their fans at higher RPMs.
>>108054702Airflow is kinda like this I guess.
>>108054730More like this.
>>108054730where do i buy that 5080? I want to make goyim seethe.
>>108054243I own three beQuiet cases and two beQuiet PSUs, always been a fan of their quality and functionality.I almost got me a Shadowbase too because of it's option for a top mounted 420 rad. In the end however I decided for a picrel ProArt PA602 because it allows the installation of standard office chair casters in the bottom and thus makes the behemoth much more maneuverable. Unlike the Shadowbase it's available with a metal panel that I prefer since I grew out of the bling fetish. I had to retrofit noise cancelling neoprene in the side panels and damping in the HDD cages because in this regard the case comes rather spartan while the Shadowcase provides every comfort you can dream of (except for the option for casters and no handles anywhere to lift or carry it).
>tfw won't be able to route all my storage with one parallel cable because somehow I still didn't fucking think this through with GPU clearance>end up having less bulk storage with 280mm+ GPJs than my Zalman Z3 because the HDD trays are spaced out >have to once again fuck with SSD mounting on the back and cable clutter that causes thus sacrificing the convenience of all your storage being on one side panel>backplate or pcb length means its not just one, but two HDD cages (which can brilliantly house two 2.5 SSDs or Hdds) remain unusableF-fuck... this is such a cool case... t
>>108054720>dual-fan coolers will have to run their fans at higher RPMs.Even at sub-200W? I would figure you could at worst just deshroud and never have to exceed 30% fan speed on whatever 120mm pwm case fans you use under prolonged loadI don't remember my msi r9 280x twin frozr or my evga superclocked 980 ti being that loud
60mm fan recommendations?
>>108054673I would miss the USB-C Socket in the front IO panel. I use it with my Garmin devices and my external SSD enclosures. I don't comprehend why they cut it. All my beQuiet cases, Dark Base, Silent Base, had it and the Shadow Base also has it but with the Pure Base they apparently cheaped out on it. A little disappointing, it's a really useful feature and every (?) Motherboard nowadays provides an option to connect it.
>>108053844That's true. Part of the reason I even have the card (5070) is because it was the only one in stock because of scalpers.
>>108054344A bearing probably got jostled in the process. Reseating is a pain, but it could be an excuse to change it. Even a phantom spirit is a nicer product.
>>108053852I had a Duron 600 OC @1150MHz under H2O. Required to mod the mobo by soldering in a resistor and a potentiometer for more juice.But Duronaut is a superior thermal paste from Thermal Grizzly™.
this has been such a shit pc to build with. one of my ram sticks was bad and caused my whole system to go read only. no matter what i did, read only. ran some tests with stress-ng that showed problems with memory, then ran memtest and that showed one of my sticks is 100%. so now i run on the other stick. I am currently at the stage where i talk with RMA department, but my issue is i cannot send both RAM sticks, meanwhile they want both as they got sent in pairs. I send both and my PC is a paperweight. Why did my RAM have to fail out of all components. Its a massive pain in the ass. Anyway, decided to glam up my setup a bit today. (YES, I am replacing the CPU cooler, I am waiting for a be quiet pure rock ATM, showing up in my mailbox any day now).
>>108054830Protip: try to run your system without figurines short-circuiting it.
>>108054814I just noticed that even at low speed (650 rpm) I can hear a fast ticking noise coming from at least one of the fans.I'll try reseating the fans later and seeing if that helps, thank you anon.
>>108054852The figurines is the most recent addition, the problems have been persistent.
>>108054853No problem, the exact same thing happened to me and was driving me nuts. Truth be told it still happens a few times a year but not enough to bother me.
>>108054857my ram is 100 percent bad. no question about it. my build or temps has nothing to do with it. just a pain in the ass to deal with. corrupted alot of my files.
>>108054830that's what you get for putting anime figurines in your pc. dead ram. enjoy.
>>108054900woulöd make sense if i put them in there 1 month ago, but i put them there just today. why whould i post this image otherwise. retard.
why don't they make a am5 version...
>>108054912an*, brownbro
>>108054910bad things happen to bad people.
>>108054926;-3
>>108054830What GPU?
>>108054940sapphire pulse 9070 xt
>>108054961Hey we have a pretty similar build
A while ago I asked if a 265K would cook under the nh-l9i and got no responsesDespite that I am coming back to report that it does in fact run fine and can even boost for short periods (though I'm using PTM instead of the included noctua paste)The situation will probably change once it's all inside the case, but we'll see. I had it on a testbench because the case has yet to arrive.
>>108054972yea. it would be 32 if not for g skill at their shit ram.
>>108054976you can always set a PL1 that will be stable for any cooler. The only question is of how much performance are you leaving on the table.
>>108054989We both even have ultrawide monitors kek
expanding the use of the trackmania box, the intel 300T and GT 1010 are actually so slow that even unreal tournament 99 gold edition runs poorly with 10 bots enabled in 1600x1200 max settingsi think its hitting some kind of memory snag but im not sure how, ill figure out how to get it running better laterhowever Halo: Combat Evolved, runs in 1600x1200 at max settings with chimera to bump up the fov to 90, buttery smooth, played through to aotcr and fiddled around in local multiplayer and its great, doesnt even feel like a single dropped frame anywhereexcellentby this logic ut99 should run great but it doesnt, maybe ill try the glide emulation
>>108055007yep, bet you even have the ultrawide rdr2 scipthook thing then, if ur like me so much
>>108055001I think it'd be interesting to run some benchmarks at different PL1 values from the default all the way down to maybe 65W. I guess that'll give me something to do while I'm waiting on the chinks to send the case.Hopefully this isn't locked behind the Z chipset though, I kinda forgot about intel being hyper jewish about features on the non-Z boards...
>>108055007mATX build? what case are you using?
>>108055011Anon I proudly told one of my friends about you the other day and how you had freed yourself of almost everything but here you are installing new games.Disappointed.
>>108055078on an offline only machine i am installing games from my childhoodit will later be configured to become a console
>>108055011Your GPU has like 16Gbit/s of memory bandwidth, a 6600GT from 2004 had similar amount.
>>108054830>All AMD build>nothing but issues>especially with RAMDon't worry, after the ram is fixed you'll have all the USB IO issues to look forward to
>bought a $100 case and going to have to spend $50 on fans because the stock fans are ass>could have just spent $150 on the Meshify 3 or $200 on the HAVN BF 360 Flow and be done with it>no returnsKill me.
>>108055101ai shill detected
>>108055101thisi had a 9600x build for like 3 weeks because it was such a piece of unstable shit, its the only modern system i ever had bluescreen on medozens of other systems from haswell onwards and that was the only one i ever just got random bsod's
>>108055118baww more kike nigger
>>108055062Nope, old ass phanteks p400a, nothing fancy. Ignore the crooked as fuck stickers, and the Zotac novideo card now resides in another PC I build out of spare parts I had >>108054120
>>108054912That thing is for threadripper/xeon, I have one on my w790 workstation.
>>108055124Yikes. That’s straight-up hate speech. If you’re looking for what to say back, here are a few solid options—pick the vibe you want without repeating or amplifying their words:Calm + firm“I’m not engaging with racist language. Do better.”“That kind of talk isn’t okay. Conversation over.”Direct shutdown“Racism isn’t an argument. Try again when you have one.”“I don’t take people seriously when they talk like that.”Witty but still clear“Imagine thinking slurs are a personality.”“Edgy ≠ intelligent.”Boundary + disengage“I’m not here for hate. Muting/blocking now.”“Nope. Not entertaining this.”If you want to call it out plainly“That’s racist. Knock it off.”You don’t owe them education, debate, or patience. Setting a boundary—or walking away—is already a win.
>>108055078also this is primarily because i went to my local retro games store to buy a modded xbox and that mf is $250so we're playing halo like this, because it cost me zero dollars since i already own halo for pc on a physical disc
>>108054740Import them from Israel.
>>108055150
>>108055101And what's the alternative? Intelkek? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANovideo bots are so desperate that are now shilling Intelaviv kek.
>>108055131looks good, the noctua fans ruin it for me and can be improved/changed for sure, but it looks like a powerful build
>>108051995TIL if your gpu has a shitty built in fan controller with a minimum speed % set too high and fan start temperature too low making it too noisy in light-load usage... a 2$ aliexpress PCH to 4 pin PWM adapter combined with FanControl completely fixes the issue, no need to disassemble the card and no need to flash another bios, plus you also get more control in general this way.the fact you have to do this at all is insane btw, fuck gigabyte for making such shit products and fuck amd for killing morepowertool, also all jews must be raped.>inb4 your mousepad is pajeet level of crustinessi know
>>108051995You forgot to list the 5070 ti OP. Luckily I'm here to remind you.
>>108055150CLANKER CLANKER CLANKER CLANKER CLANKER CLANKER!
>>108055232And the 5080.
>>108053486>>108053513>>108053599You can run applications straight from a network drive in windowsYou can do a lot to hotrod a NAS for even running games.By default in ZFS based Linux distros like Truenas anything in active use is cached in RAM after the initial load from the HDDs. First load will be slow-ish (still faster than a single HDD) but any subsequent runs will only be limited by your network speed. The more RAM you have the more that can be cached.You can add some SSDs as a level 2 cache (L2ARC) so even things less frequently used will still load from an SSDArguably a good replacement for anything south of an NVMe
>>108055211Your card is just defective kek this happens with every single gpu manufacturer why didn't you just RMA it like a normal sane person instead of posting your retardation online
>>108055150THIS IS WHY RAM PRICES WENT UP 40000%
Alright, I got this shit set up. Basically, I upgraded so I repurposed my old pc into something my sister's kids can use. Case was terrible. Cheaping on the case was by far the worst move here. So if computers ever gain sentience, I'm sorry buddy. Obviously the vertical GPU mount is a little silly, but I didn't want to throw it away or have it sit in storage for years. Thermals are all very good. Runs like 20C cooler than when I was using it.
>>108055255...there's nothing defective about it, the vbios is programmed this way and the same is true for most other retardbyte gpus, the 6600xt gaming oc even had a 1700 rpm minimum speed, it's insane how they can pretend this is fine but yeah it is and definitely will not be passable under warranty, I did try but again, support insists this is perfectly normal (because well, it is).realistically I could've returned it when I first got it but didn't for a bunch of reasons and i'm just happy that with this simple mod it behaves as normal, definitely never buying another retardbyte gpu but i suspect lots of manufacturers also ship cards with stupid defaults which again, you now cannot change due to powerplay tables being locked (same is true for nvidia).
>>108055267looks really good, a white gpu would have been the best looks like for this build. cooling pipes also a bit crazy otherwise all good in my book.
>>108055267Here's how she used to look.Another terrible fucking case, apparently I cannot choose a good case.The 280mm rad had to mount to the front (There's no front intakes), cable management was limited because the back panel was glass and pretty tight to the case. I'm keeping my 1080Ti as a wall hanger though.
Would it make sense to buy a 1TB NVMe for demanding AAA vidya and keep my current SATA SSD for other, less demanding games?My original plan was to replace the SATA drive with a 2TB NVMe, but the prices I'm seeing are absolutely criminal unless I settle for used
>>108055100thats actually impressively awful
>>108055291Sure, why not?Anything more than ~5-8 years old can 100% be put on the SATA SSD with only minor loading time differences.Some modern AAA from the last 5-8 years will appreciate that NVMe drive performance, though.I personally have 4TB NVMe w/ DRAM, 1TB NVMe w/o DRAM, 1TB SATA SSD, and then around 60TB in HDDs.
>>108055291I think I've heard with vidya a SATA SSD is still fine these days, and you won't see too much more performance with an nvme for most games. But if you can find a 1TB nvme for around $100 then that's not too terrible of a deal. I'm not sure if you can though, at least one with DRAM. I think one without DRAM is still fine if it's not the boot drive.
>https://youtu.be/EiUtw4w3CQc?si=fUzqb7DN2QPAZ-6UMore 9800x3D are burning out in motherboards recently. Does the 9950x3D have the same voltage problem, I wanted to get one but.....this shit is making me hesitant.
>>108055310Shame really, the core, despite how crap it is, is much much faster than a 6600GT (same ballpark as a 8800GT), but it's chocked to death by the 64bit DDR4 memory. GDDR5 version has triple the bandwidth.
How would you fill in the blanks?>CPU: _>MB: _>HSF: Noctua D12L>RAM: _>SSD: Crucial T710 [1TB + 2TB]>GPU: MSI Suprim 5090>Case: _>PSU: Corsair SF1000I've been collecting bits and pieces of my build for like 18 months now (competing financial priorities), and while I really fucking regret delaying the procurement of some RAM for this thing I want to see it through to the end; at this point though, I feel I have to pick a case before I can plan any further and I'm stumped, everything (not sold out/is available at all in Australia) other than the mesh Lian Li A3 either looks kind of terrible, is some enormous EATX thing, or would cook the 5090.
>>108055413CPU: Wait for 9950X3D2.MB: Something bougie. RAM: 96GB Minimum for 5090-related AI stuff.Case: HAVN HS 420 DOOM The Dark Ages Limited Edition
>>108055371buy an ad
>>108055371literally DOZENS of cpu's are burning out... It's fucking OVER. JayzTwoBrainCells have blown the lid off this scandal.
>>108055413Why the itx PSU? Weird choice, and I suggest you get a proper atx3.1 PSU with a dual ended 12v2x6 connector if you don't want a melted connector >>108049465
>>108055413Is the Fractal Meshify 3 available down under? Doesn't look bad and has good thermals. As for RAM, pre-shortage I would've put 128 in a system like that but you may have to shoot for 64.
>>108055469kek
>gather all my parts>put it together>it doesn't turn on or postthis is my greatest fear
>>108055480That was me yesterday, I had to harvest some DDR5 from another system to prove that everything else was working. Now attempting RMA with Corsair.
any leafbros? other than amazon what are some reputable places I can routinely check for discounts and parts
So, is Zen 6 set to be on AM5?And if so, are we likely to see the release of a new chipset?
>>108055513bestbuymemoryexpresscanadacomputershttps://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/new/?feedViewType=compactViewcanadacomputers is kinda shit if you don't have a store locally. their online sales that are worthwhile never stay in-stock for delivery
>>108055527YesMaybe not
>>108055480get over it. It's a basic thing that happens when you build, it's not a bad thing. If you never have this happen you aren't pushing your builds.
>Bought DDR4 RAM for $190 just now for a computer I got for $50I feel so dirty, I hate it. Is there any other way?
>>108055696Yep, you can use Optane. oh wait it was canceled lol no there is no other way.
>Go to check MBs >Have to play lottery between the good MTK WIFI or the ass RTK WIFI. Shit like this should be illegal.
>>108055706I can't believe I'm propagating DDR4 RAM being the same price it was when it was new by buying it right now, but here I am. I truly am a disgusting paypig.
Thots on the Lian Li A3? I'm putting the finishing touches on my prospective build--mATX motherboard. I could make do with an ATX case, I believe, but I'd prefer to have a relatively small case that won't take up too much space. Lian Li A3 is perfect, I think, just that it's a little pricey--at least with respect to all the other components; I feel like I could buy a cheaper case and put what's left over towards the GPU. Or is that more or less what I should expect to pay for a case?Some other options I've seen are>DIYPC DIY-mATX06>DIYPC ARGB-Q01 They come with fans, which is nice, but RGB looks super gay. I have yet to look into fans or CPU coolers. I'll be making renders, so I'll likely have to upgrade the stock cooler that comes with the CPU.
the AI bubble needs to burst yesterday
>>108055729Forgot pic
goddamnit soon we're going to have arcfaggots shitposting in here.
>>108055740I hate saying it but I was wrong: It's here to stay and it's because the US Government is effectively stomping all opposition of it into the ground. Otherwise it would have never got this bad.OpenAI is admitting they haven't made a cent, they're going to get a bailout. Microsoft is hitting new lows it hasn't seen since before COVID, they're going to double down on it. Elon is trying to get a trillion dollar investment to put Datacenters in space (???) and he'll probably get it on our dime. I hate being pessimistic but it's actually, unironically, and factually over. There are now more datacenters being built than schools. It's only a matter of time until electricity becomes too expensive to use and all public land begins being bulldozed for more datacenters. People think "The next president will fix this, surely!" but forget this started under a democrat president. They announced they will start using Ethanol, so if people thought growing corn to feed our cars was pervasive, wait until 90% of corn production goes to feeding datacenters and our food undergoes the same inflationary spiral as Electricity has got before. People's big wins at stopping datacenters has been stopping maybe one datacenter from popping up in their neighborhood while 6 more get rammed through under their noses. And every day there are more and more desperate measures to continue finding some way they can turn a profit, there are now flock cameras on literally every single street corner, it makes the UK's surveillance look like a joke. There are more AI job openings in my city than real AI jobs at datacenters, and something along the lines of 80% of companies are expected to lay off workers for AI replacements this year alone. I hate saying it's over but it's factually over.
>>108055775
>>108054738Unironically how do those fuckers actually work? I got one and it has to share a room with another that has a conventional cooler (3090 FE + TUF) Should I place it above or below?
>>108055775Until they're sitting on all these data centers that offer zero value, generate zero revenue, and serve zero purpose.The only reason they're being built is because dumb burgers in charge of it unironically think it will solve a need in the near future (it won't)
>>108055785Everything I said is happening: Despite not turning a single cent and being economically ruinous, the push for AI has accelerated far faster than demand and the US Government will eventually make up the difference, they're doing it now by forcing everyone to subsidize the electricity costs, and once fuel cell production ramps up, we'll do it by subsidizing food costs. Even the idea of buying computer hardware will become insignificant compared to buying food.https://www.red-eng.com/insights/overview-of-future-fuels-in-data-centre-power-generation
>>108055791It has value.It's going to force the government to bail the companies out and buy the datacenters. In which case they'll probably use it for spying and they will never go away, which means our components will still cost $500 for a double stick of RAM. Forcing the US Government to buy all computer hardware so they can gouge them is actually such a genius scheme, I'm shocked they didn't think about it before.
>>108055748>drivers require Windows 11This should be illegal.
need a quick suggestion for an external hard drive ~5TBseagate anygood?
>>108055832I don't care about that, I care about getting the MTK one because the drivers are on the Linux kernel, fucking realtek never submits their drivers to the kernel when pretty much everyone else does it.
>>108051995Best case that comes with 8 3.5 inch bays already installed?I need to build a second NAS to replicate from my first, I used the Fractal Design Define 5 last time, that worked well.Are there any other options? The Meshify 2 XL was a pain to set up with 8 bays, I did that one a while ago.Any recommendations?
any thoughts on this?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TBzfrGi am a retard and im trying my best. I want my pc to be as good as i can afford, i want to play on 1440p with all settings maxed out on whatever game i play
>>108055876I would be willing to spend even more if I thought it was worth it but the price jump from 5080 to 5090 is insane
>>108055876>EATX Case>MATX Motherboard.Kinda weird.
>>108055876Get the Phantom Spirit 120 SE.Get the MSI PRO B850-P.Get better memory (10 ns so 6000CL30 or 6400CL32) for similar pricing: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yyqrxr or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xVy8TWGo for a better, quality PSU like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rGqNnQ (or better if you can afford it) check HWbusters or similar to confirm it's legit.
>realize the funny PSU I bought for cheap won't work in any of the cases I wanted to use
What should I upgrade from my 3060 12GB? I only have a 650W PSU. Running a 12700K in a B660 mobo. >Option 1:Get a 3080 12GB and a 850W PSU>Option 2:Get a 4070 or a 5070 and don't have to upgrade PSU
>>108055773I'm happy for the Arcfags, they never gave up hope. XeSS got MFG so it was a foregone conclusion that Arc was not dead though. I expect to see at least one generation where Intel is the most cost efficient option out of the three and techtubers have to kneel.
>>108055473Oh for fucks sake, I thought it came with one of those.This SF1000 is the 2024 version and definitely an ATX 3.1 compliant model though, and Corsair apparently make a (2x) 8-Pin ~> PCIe 12V-2x6 interconnect cable; I'm probably fine just ordering one of those then, it's 30 bucks vs. the cost of an entirely new PSU as this one is well outside it's return window.For context, I bought it back when I thought I was going to go for an SFF build, and held onto it after abandoning that idea since it's well built per Cybernetics and always nice to have the option of using an SFX PSU when building in a potentially cramped case.>>108055478>>108055452That HAVN case looks kind of cool, but is sold out; the Fractal is available however, but it looks like only the XL version of the Meshify 3 would fit my 5090 and that model is 72.6L. This build is planned as mainly just a living room gaming machine, so I was hoping for something closer to half that.Also, sorry, as far as RAM goes, how hard am I fucking myself over if I opt for only 32GB? A 9800X3D costs (and in some cases very significantly) less than any kits >=48GB at the moment.If it's not clear at this point, the 5090 broke my budget and I'm limping towards the finish line by trying to fill those blanks with the cheapest options that won't castrate the GPU.
>>1080560222 easily
When upgrading, do you guys use the same case? Or get a different one?
First time doing custom fan curvesDoes this look safe/okay?
>>108056054The Corsair dual 8-pin to 12vhpwr cable is pretty sus and doesn't like to be current balancedIt's only acceptable if you can measure the current balance with an Asus astral or thermalgrizzly's wireview pro 2 and fix it manually by varying the cable insertion depth until it's balanced
>>108055989What funny PSU?
>>108055870Nobody has a good answer?
>>108055291In my experience only the most aggressively unoptimized shitpile games are affected by anything faster than an SSD.
>>108056072loud af
>>108055291Buy used but from good brands like Samsung, WD, Crucial.I bought this one and it's great, solid heatsink, already with newest firmware. I can't afford 990 Pro with heatsink, this is the most my budget can reasonably allow. Now I don't even have any budget left for a 4TB HDD.
>>108056179ds1821+
>>108055291in theory I think ps5 ports that use DirectStorage might run better on nvme than sata since they stream textures from non-volatile storage. In practice I doubt it matters if you have 32+ gb of ram? It'll get loaded ahead of time anyway I figure.I have a sata and m.2 ssd and i dont notice a different in load times in gayming, only a difference in changing checkpoints in stable diffusion. But I still keep my stable diffusion checkpoints on my sata ssd just because i have twice as much sata ssd space and my models folder is over 300gb.......
>>108056205Where did you buy this from?
>>108056220Used marketplace in my country.
>>108056208Hmm...it does have an x86_64 CPU...Can I install TrueNAS Scale on this? That's a critical key requirement.I was obviously originally talking about building one but if I can install TrueNAS on this then fuck it.
>>108056167One of the Corsair SHIFT PSUs. Has all the connectors on the side. They were selling the 750w versions for $80 and they were A+ on the chart so I grabbed one for my build.
>>108056233IDK how you would do this or if it is even possible. If you're not gonna use DSM it's just not worth it anyway imo.
>>108056289I guess Fractal Define 5 again it is lol...was hoping to get a different answer and see if there was anything better.
>>108052038did your parents make you get a job amd cuck?
BestBuy just had a drop for some FE 5080s, nvidia will more than likely sell some on their marketplace soon.
I have an airflow question. I like my case, but its airflow is not so good I think. I have a lot of case fans, so I can still add two.This is my current set up. Two front intake (blue), one back and two top exhausts (red).I still have space for a third fan. Should I put it as an intake (green)? Or is it not necessary/counterproductive?I dont like that the bottom front fan is mostly only for the psu, but I guess its good for it.
7800X3D/9800X3D sisters not like this......we got beat by a $180 discounted 9600x cpu.....Actually more like $100 cpu because new egg is doing a deal with an AIO cooler for an $80 value free. A 9600X is essentially a $120 CPU.You have to include the cooler as part of your CPU cost because without it, you wouldnt be able to use it.
>>108056314I think nicotroon works as hospital receptionist or something.
>>108056334Its so over. How can a $400/$480 CPU get beat by such a cheap one.....
>>108056334some games don't care about x3d cache... cry about it. The vast majority of unoptimized slop will benefit hugely from it. You picked one of the few optimized games in existence to make your non-existent point. Go back to your own country btw, you aren't wanted here.
>>108056345its over
>>108056356yeah it's over for you because you weren't born white. I feel your pain, well not actually but I can imagine it... shivers...
I really hope the black people who deliver my packages don't abuse my pc parts because I ordered a moonman shirt once (the moonman shirt arrived after significant delay, i theorize they chose not to deliver it because they knew)
Why spend $450-500 on a CPU with no real benefit besides at 1080p on certain games and at most like 5-8% better FPS at 1080p. Basically no difference at 4KI'd rather buy the $120 one. 7800X3D sisters, did we overpay for nothing?
Okay I'll respond to the bait but I will not (You) it.Not only does a CPU not showing up on the list mean anything, because they might have not used it in the test, the 9800x3d wasn't released at the time of this video. 9800x3d released on November 7th 2024, this video being released on August 7th 2024.
best monitors(1080/1440) for a 3060?
>>108056377Yes we understand, you'd rather buy the $120 cpu because it takes you 3 months of saving a third of your salary to have $120.
>>108056311https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/N6Black.htmlBut its a more painful build than that fractal
>mfw i'm realizing my current rig may be the last pc hardware i can afford for 5-10 yearsI mean it's a 5700x3d and a 9070xt, so it should last awhile, but it feels like hardware companies are gonna keep this shit inflated for as long as they can.
>>108056418Can you set aside $50 per paycheck? You could make a great pc by 2029. No? How about $30. You could build a new high-end rig by 2032 or so. It's not that hard anon... Resolve to buy a single share of $SGOV at the end or start of every month to help your savings keep up with inflation and keep it on DRIP. you'll get there in no time...
>>108056377There's nothing wrong with being poor but trying to apply poormaxxing logic to everyone is dumb
I like my cheap AOC VA minileds, but some fag will point out how a $300 monitor isn't absolutely perfect.
Putting the finishing touches on everything. Anything else I should consider or change? Total is about $100 less than what's shown. Price of GPU isn't considered. I might go with a 16GB GPU instead for generative AI stuff--image generation and LLMs--though I'd need to choose one that isn't bottlenecked by the CPU, or swap it out for a 5600 at least instead. 12GB should be enough for both use cases with some (relatively minor) restrictions, but 16GB should allow for greater flexibility and control, especially with LLMs. The case should accommodate larger-sized cards, but temps might be an issue depending on fan configuration. I like it, but I'm not particularly attached to it; alternatives are welcome.
>>108056472>>108056383oops
I know people hate on the 285k but does AMD have anything with comparable performance that also has an iGPU?
>>108056475CPU cooler?
>>108056440NTA, but I have other expensive hobbies (warhammer and mma training) that takes up a chunk of my paycheck.I usually cycle between spending money on PC upgrades, plastic minis, or replacing my worn out mma kits (leather gloves and shin guards are expensive as fuck and dont last more than 4 years with frequent high intensity use).I'm done with my PC and Warhammer cycle, so I'm now saving money to book a 2 month training camp for next year. That's basically another high end PC in price. So I will have to wait 2 or 3 years before cycling back to PC upgrades, and that cycle may need another 3 or 4 years for me to build up the funds for significant upgrades.Warhammer is atually my cheapest hobby.
>>1080564819950x and 9950x3d?
>>108056541>mma trainingIs that expensive in general or is any sort of martial arts training expensive?t. fatty>warhammer is the cheapestI'm surprised. I would think DIY PC building is cheapest in general, but I've known some people who seem to upgrade with each new generation of GPUs. Some would upgrade with each new generation of CPUs. But I digress, I've heard of people dumping a lot of money into Warhammer but it's probably just the same situation of people who will do such things and others might be a little more mindful of what they buy.
>>108056541i mean if you can't even save $60 a month your finances are fubar. PC building isnt an expensive hobby at all. We used to pay WAY more than this in the 90's, for hardware that became useless garbage FAR quicker.
>>108051995Holee fugDdr4 is way pricier than ddr5 now
>>108056704wowthanks jews
maybe dont waitfag for 7+ years (:
>>108056475Honestly wouldnt even go with AM4. AMD says they'll support AM5 until 2028 with new CPU's and if you think RAM prices are bad you should see 5800X3D's they are $550-600 now used on ebay now lol. Its still a good CPU but AM5 is more efficient and better.9600X is $200 with a $15 coupon(not sure if they still have it) on newegg with a free $80 MSI 240mm AIO and is slightly more powerful than a 5800X3D even with the 3 vcacheNewegg did a bundle recently with 16gb DDR5 6000MHZ but if you didnt get that then you're kinda fucked. The RAM situation keeps getting worse every single day.Maybe newegg will do another bundle again.
>>108056704Whoa maybe I should sell now
Is wifi 7 worth it or is wifi 6 fine?
>>108056883Do you have the appropriate access point infrastructure?Do you feel bottlenecked by current speeds?
>>108056507Comes with the CPU; It comes with the wraith stealth, but I don't know if it'd be sufficient. Can't I just use it with the stock cooler and see if temps are acceptable, otherwise add in a different cooler? >>108056816Why should I be concerned with AMD supporting AM5 with new CPUs? I'm coming from using just workstations, so I'm not that familiar with some concerns. I know microcode updates can be an issue, as well as compatibility with other hardware. Right now I'm just trying to get my foot in the door with having a capable PC that can go through all my use cases reasonably well. I don't need the best or latest hardware, even if it is more efficient; I just need something that works. No doubt going with AM5 instead would pay off a few years down the line if I decide I want to upgrade to a more powerful GPU, but I think I'll be satisfied with the 3060 or whatever 16GB GPU I can use with the system. I think at most, all I'd need is a 5600 and 32GB of RAM. That's just my assumption though. I don't really understand why some anons need more, aside from professional or niche use cases. I feel like I'm missing something. Anyway, I'm planning on buying now and earning everything back by getting a job. I have money, but I don't want to go crazy with it. I'm just looking to buy everything now before prices rise again. If it weren't for the current situation, I'd just wait and wagefag, earn enough to buy a future-proof setup, ???, and profit. Though quite honestly, I'm at a loss for what the best approach is.
>>108056478Got it.
>>108056896Unless you are substantially budget constrained even a 20 to $30 cooler would go a long way over the stock one.
>>108056872damn. that's a lot of sata ssd storage.
>>108056872don't, it is just other retards thinking themselves smart and trying to sell 3x times at the top when no one is buying at those prices. You might sell a few to retarded suckers but by two weeks the prices will stabilize.How do I know? Retards here were selling pci5 2 tb at $600 but after no one bite they are starting to lower it little by little.
>>108056960>this is the top guysderanged.im going to hold onto my 128gb ddr4 kit for the REAL top in 2 weeks.I'm smarter than everyone.
>>108056740no, thank you.>bought Samsung first-gen QD-OLED model in 2023>riding it out until superior display tech, MicroLED or at least MicroRGB, trickles down to monitors>we've only just reached peak OLED adoption
>>108056906Not necessarily. Part of my concern with respect to the CPU cooler is whether my case will adequately accommodate it--both with respect to width, and whether or not it comes too close to the RAM. Though I could just check builds others have made on pcpartpicker, and go with that (assuming almost any cooler will do). The other half is not knowing what is an appropriate amount to spend on it--that goes for most components, actually.
>>108054910That's why I stopped asking questions here and started giving advices. The reading comprehension is SO BAD here that even you and I rank among the top users. There might be two or three anons worth their salts here and the rest is pure amerilards.
>>108056913And I will need more soon, even in this economy.
>>108054830Neat figgers, nice setup.
>>108056896AM5 is much more efficient and more powerful. AMD's 9000 series were specifically made to beat AM4's X3D chips without having the X3D.9600X is very close with a 5800X3D's performance without even having 3D v cache. 5800X3D is still a good competitor to even a 7800X3D in 2026.9600X is the best value CPU for FPS per dollar on AM5. Some games it trades 2-5% FPS but its around the same in most.For exampleA Ryzen 5500 with a RX 6600 at 1080p will get 100-140fps in CS2 at max settingsA Ryzen 9600X with a RX 6600 at 1080p will get 300-350fps in CS2 at max settings
>>108057202What is this grokgpt nonsense
The anon with a Sudokoo SK700V around here ever make the build? Wanna hear his thoughts on the cooler.
>>108057202Aside from efficiency concerns, isn't my prospective setup sufficient? It works; it's "enough", right? That's all that really matters to me. The only major concerns I have are viability with generative AI. I know I'll have to use models that 12GB/16GB can accommodate--more of a constraint with 12GB--and with image generation, I won't be able to make use of many tools at once. But it will still work, no? Also, what's the point of having that high of an FPS in games? Isn't there a point where you're essentially upgrading with diminishing returns? Assuming no niche/professional use case that is.
>>108056332Right now you have slight negative air pressure which is okay for cooling but means your case is desperately filling itself up with dusty air from every hole.Green arrow is more than welcome but you need to make sure the air it pushes in have a chance to be tunneled by the CPU cooler fan instead of the top middle fan right next to it.If you have some spare time you can make a test adding green arrow then another test adding green arrow and flipping top middle fan from exhaust to intake too and see if it gets better or worse.
Any reason these fans should be making a high pitched Eeeeeeeeeee noise?
>>108057220Just autistic, AI doesn't make punctuation mistakes. Sometimes I do sometimes I don't.I only type like that when I'm paying attention to my typing.>>108057256IDK man, if you want to game not really its a weak cpu, if you want to do AI stuff idk. Either way AM4 is not a good value in 2026, but you do you if you want to save $150. Seems foolish but I'm not your parents. Maybe youll find a newegg DDR5 bundle. They literally have the best deals in PC building, not even amazon beats them. But PC gaming is screwed with regular RAM prices so good luck.
>>108054344>>108054369>>108054450I'm gonna test my Phantom Spirit 120 and compare these Thermalright fans to the Xtraflo 120 fans on my Hyper 212 Turbo of 2010 and 2013 vintage. I'm curious to see if I get the same issue as this anon given I've never used this kind of mounting system for fans before.
>>108054182This is fucking ridiculousThis could be cooled by a single fan probably They're ether massively overbuilding heatsinks nowadays relative to the GPU tier or they're making 3 fan models with shitty heatsinks to charge more instead of focusing on quality in a small area
>>108055371Do not worry, amdunboxed is on the case making defensive video to counter jays video.
>>108057326CPU being weak isn't a major concern since none of my use cases require a particularly powerful CPU, I don't think, and I don't play any new games. I'll consider AM5 if I can find a good wombo combo. Though you do make a valid argument regarding price to performance of AM4 compared to AM5. In that case, t's not necessarily about how much power/performance each platform can offer, but instead looking at it from a price standpoint. I suppose it's a matter of looking at the present situation and considering whether I should cut my losses at this point while I'm (presumably) still ahead of the game with respect to what may come in the next few weeks, or should I bear with the prices and buy something a bit more powerful that may or may not end up paying off later down the line since I won't have to upgrade that much at that point.
AHHHHHHHH FUCK ME WHY DIDN'T I ORDER THE ASUS DUAL CARD INSTEAD OF THE ZOTAC SOLID CARD FUCK I fucking forgot this card also uses PTM instead of pasteGod fuck why I was going to do this shit originally but then thought MMM TRIPLE FAN CARD COOLER AND QUIETER AND LETS ME USE ONLY 2 SLOTS AND ALSO DESHROUD FOR MORE COOLING MMMFuckFor once I should have listened to the AI bullshit leddit scraper generators because I would have been probably totally fine with the dual fan models
>>108057256Yes. You've been wasting posts with a consoomer.If you're serious about AI you will want 16Gb VRAM. You can still wait for a less potent GPU to figure out the math but you simply can't fit a 16Gb model on a 12Gb GPU. That being said less impressive models do exist for 8Gb to 12Gb GPU so there's still room for you to give it a try for way cheaper than a $500 5060 Ti 16Gb.There's a minority of people still happy with what AM4 provides and planning on riding it until AM6 releases.
>>108057512Only people riding AM4 is people who own and bought 5800X3D in mid 2022 and dont want to sell it, although they should and they'd be fucking stupid not to right now with these prices retards are willing top payDDR4 RAM 32gb 3600mhz which used to cost nothing is like $250 LMAO and retards are actually paying for it LOL.Retards are buying 5800X3D up on ebay for $600+ USED LMAO and DDR4 Used for $180.So if you went to a 9600X which is basically the same performance you'd actually profit like $400+, Crazy. The sensible thing at this point if you own an AM4 PC, is to fucking sell right fucking now and start parting your PC out on ebay. Just selling a 5800X3D right now USED gets you an entire new AM5 PC, that's not even counting the RAM like 64GB of DDR4.I actually can't believe it too, because I'm profiting and it feels so good with spare RAM I have in the utter disbelief people are willing to pay this much for old junky 4 year old PC parts. With my funds I bought a brand new 9070XT.
If I knew that AMDip 9800celsiusburn was going to have this death lottery problem I might have ended up going with Intel Arrow Lake instead and spending the time tooning it until it was good.
>>108054574youre so fucking retarded
>>108057512>>108057552What do you use your PC for?
>>108057552It's funny how all along your constant upgrading spree today you never once considered his usecase. I'm solo gaming on 5600 + 4060 combo like most people on Steam and it will suffice for the next 3 years without even trying.He already posted a sub $500 build, why do you make scenarios in your head? Snap out of this meltdown son.
>sell AM4nta butUnfortunately my country has a somewhat more sensible used parts market, with at most $400 5800X3D "new in box" and lots of sub-$200 actually used 5700X3D32GB DDR4 sticks average $150Used SSDs with less than one full write cycle (likely stolen from corporate surplus) go for $50 per TBOnly GPUs are approaching full retard where 2+ year old used cards cost 90% of their current retail priceMight as well keep waiting for AM6 at this point
>Put on an AMDUnboxed video>Guys trust me >AMD is outselling Geforce guys>Looks at the Steam Hardware survey >RTX 5000 cards mog all AMD cards combinedWhat crack is he smoking? I feel like I'm watching someone tell me not to believe my lying eyes. Baghdad Bob style guys Radeon is doing great! *BANG*
>>108057579Past months I've been enjoying the first 3 Yakuza Kiwami at 4k, setting up YARG (Guitar Hero/Rock Band clone) parties at my place and very occasional Comfy UI image generation despite my 8Gb VRAM limitation. Paid $600 for this rig and it exceed my needs.I'm an old fart and as far as I'm concerned we've hit a point of diminishing return. I'm happier with a 4060 low form factor low TDP than a 5080 12 pins cable nonsense. To each his own though, you do you anon.
>>108056993If you use anything bought in the last 3 years, you're a buyfag
>>108057359Yeah, instead of current gen low profile or passive cards with no power connectors, we get huge ass low end 150W cards which still can't beat mid range of 2021.
>>108054450Doing gods work
>>108057767This is a K4000, a GTX 650 Ti die with some cores disabled and limited to 80w and they gave this guy a VAPOR CHAMBER. Pro card yes I know but still.The best I can hope for on a 250W 5070 in most cases is a direct contact heatpipe when my 280X/290X/980 Ti from MSI/Sapphire/EVGA had vapor chambers and heavier, denser heatsinks at a lower cost...
>>108055101>All AMDActually that's an MATX board, and ATX is a form factor made by Intel.
>>108057649Danke anon, you eased my worries in some part. Yeah, I think I'll be content with my prospective setup for years to come since I won't do anything crazy with it. Generative AI is probably the most resource intensive thing I'll be doing with it. When did you buy your setup? What model do you use? I've read that generative AI--image generation at least--is viable on 8GB GPUs, but with some caveats.
Man I wish I could afford an RTX Pro 6000...
>>108056475for LLMs you mainly need more RAM, not necessarily VRAMnow VRAM definitely doesn't hurt but unless you go for the pro models with 48-96GB you won't fit anything but the smallest and most useless models anywayI got 16GB VRAM + 32GB RAM and I barely dabble with LLMs because I can't run the cool models and have to make do with the shitty ones so I don't really bother
shill me an am5 mobo for 9800x3d. Im about to load off my bags
>>108057824i would get one if there were aib models of it since this gen's FE cooler runs way too hot
>>108057797>vapor chamber with 3 pipesThey gave the 5050 a huge ass cooler with just 2 pipes and a plastic backplate. In all the whole thing weight 700g. Literal fisher price toy.
Any suggestions on what fans I should place for this Pure Base 600? I got two extra 140mm fans at my disposal; a PWM P14 Pro and a 3-pin Mistral. The P14 is my most powerful (and likely noisy) fan, so not sure whether to put it on front intake (whether in the path of least resistance, or in front of the two HDDs) or put it up top as an exhaust which hooks up to the CPU fan speeds.
>>108057905What model did you try? I'm basing my expectations off this: https://rentry.org/lmg-lazy-getting-started-guide
>>108058019yeah I tried Nemo, it's really not that greatlike if you just want completely brainless coom scenarios it'll scratch that itch for a little while but it gets stale quickly especially because it won't be able to remember things for longer sessionsultimately large context window is king and all the models that fit into smaller RAM setups just can't offer that
>>108058004When I first picked up my Ventus 3X 3060 Ti that's how it felt too, but it might be placebo for all I know if it's just down to less density in the object overall. So coolers might still be overbuilt in more cases than before.Let's take a look at some of my old GPUs actually, starting off with R9 280X Twin Frozr. Just found out I had a kitchen scale all this time.>0.83kg That's way lighter than I expected, though this Tahiti GPU did get toasty in the summer.
>>108058084EVGA 980 Ti SC ACX 2.0>0.93kgWondering if designs have gotten better of not over the years especially with stuff like CFD, fans, and TIM to get more cooling out of it. Or the other way around.
>>108058096Sapphire R9 290X Tri-X here...>1.035kgThis is probably my heaviest GPU besides the Vega FE that I once owned. This thing is beefy so it always ran quiet. Probably my best GPU cooler.
>>108057956Whatever you do, don't buy the X870 Tomahawk.
>>108058108High end cards also have a lot of VRAM and VRM to cool, so they have to put a beefy baseplate (below the heatsink) as well, plus the huge cooler with actual enough pipes.
>>108058108MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3060 Ti w/ deshroud mod using 3x SPC Zephyr 120mm PWM fans is heavier than expected. >0.91kgThis actually makes me worry if measuring GPU heatsink quality by product weight is wrong because bigger fans or a bigger shroud could skew the numbers. Damn.>0.76kg for the original weight of the cardAh, there it is. So that's basically a 50-tier cooler on this 3060 Ti as I first thought with 3 heatpipes and a standard aluminum heatsink on the die. Shit, I wonder whether the shroud/fans could do something like make a triple fan card seem heavier than a dual fan card despite actually having less heatsink mass...
>>108058142And finally, the itty bitty K4000 at a firm 0.5kg, if this card was 2-slots it'd easily be over a kilogram with that kind of density. And this is meant to dissipate only 80w... so 1kg to cool 160w if you double that power too ignoring scaling.
>>108058191now weigh a banana
>>108058142>50-tier coolerThe 5050's cooler is overkill anyway. All it needs is a single fan cooler with like 2 pipes. Its cooler could probably cool a 3060ti fine. Just wanted to point out that despite the huge cooler, 3 fans, empty PCB and plastic backplate, it still weight a mere 700g. Gigabyte just wanted to give the impression that bigger=gooder so they can charge more.
>>108057812I got mine a year ago but better PCs are sold for the same price or even lower this very day on Vinted. Just make sure you test it with tools like OCCT, Prime95, Furmark, MemTest86+ etc before accepting the item as conform to description. Format any SSD/HDD when the transaction is finalized and install the OS yourself so you know there's nothing cheeky hidden somewhere.I use Z Image Turbo Quantized for image generation but O checked for you and it looks like if you have a 3060 12Gb you'll have access to better tools than me like the FLUX.1 Schnell (jej isn't that appopriate for you).
>>108058205This banan weighs exactly 0.2kg, so the 290X weighs about 5 of these bananas.
>>108058210>so they can charge moreThis also is my suspicion with the Zotac 5070 Solid versus the Asus 5070 Dual despite the latter reportedly weighing less but I can't find any clear pictures of the heatsink or heatpipe count to compare.
>>108058355very nice
I currently got this kind of fan setup, I'm aware that it's kinda retarded and I need to change things. I was thinking of getting a new AIO with a 360mm radiator since my current one is getting pretty old, and maybe put that as the front intake? Or keep it as top exhaust? The fan on the bottom isn't really doing much because of the PSU shroud so idk if I should even keep it. The shroud does have some openings to let a little air through but it's still very restrictive. Any suggestions? All fans are currently 120mm, the front could also fit 140mm I think so I could potentially get a bigger rad too.
>>108058377Zotac 5070 Solid has 5 pipes, weights 950g. I'd say it's fine for a chip that is smaller than a vanilla 3060 (263mm^2 vs 276mm^2) kek.
>>108057602Erm what? With newegg bundles you can get a similar PC for $530 for a similar price that comes with a case, cooler, CPU, mobo, PSU, SSD. You can scavenge for some cheapo sata SSD on ebay used they are like $30-40, nothing burger and are never used enough to matter with cycles. NVME is a meme not really any difference in gaming.Effectively a 9600X is still the most recommended value AM5 CPU since it beats a 5800X3D in most games in performance and is 3x cheaper and more power efficient. There's literally zero reason and zero usecase someone can make to build an AM4 PC in 2026. Not even value wise.People that have AM4 PC's should be fucking offloading their PC's right now on ebay with RAM and prices and taking advantage of the market prices. I sold my 5800X3D and built a brand new AM5 PC with money saved I bought a 9070XT.If you buy AM4 in 2026 intentionally you gotta be retarded, doubly so if you're trying to build a budget PC without even looking for bundles on RAM with the RAM crisis going on.
This fat bastard is nearly 2KG of GPU (Mostly the metal shroud and heatsink.)It is almost 3x the weight of the 1080Ti.
>>108053086I should have boughted 100k worth when it was 1.5 usdI should have also had that 100k saved up
>>108058387>maybe put that as the front intake? Or keep it as top exhaust? Either would work. Good top 360mm support is not universal so check first. Ideally in an actual build and not just the spec sheet - just because it says one will fit doesn't mean it won't impinge on your VRM heatsinks etc.>idk if I should even keep [the bottom fan]Feel free to test it but probably not. There's nothing in there that needs extra cooling (assuming you don't have a fanless PSU or 10k RPM HDDs).>Any suggestions?If your AIO is >5 years old then replacing it is prudent. I prefer a top mount since you don't need to worry about tube positioning but front is fine if your case has limited space up top.If it's not that old then I'd say just leave it. Test your temps without the bottom/rear fans to see if they're actually doing anything. You can just unplug them no need to remove them initially.
>open up thread>graphics cards are being weighedkek i love this general
i bit into a tomato and sprayed tomato juice over my oled screenam I fucked?
>>108058549If building with AM4 platform is retarded, what should I aim for with AM5? I think I'll just get a job and allocate whatever I was going to use to build my PC towards a better one so I won't have to worry much about a budget. I'll just wage-slave until I get enough money and quit.
>>108058664Distilled Water + Microfiber ClothDont drown the cloth in water just dip a little
>>108058609Yeah I realized I'd rather not top mount a larger one since it looks like it could interfere with the CPU power cable. I think I can fit a 420mm radiator in the front if it's not too fat so I might go with that. And I totally forgot that the PSU shroud has removable segments so I can take one off and keep the bottom fan.
>>108058700What sort of hardware are you running in there? If it's just mid-to-high end gaming stuff you're likely already at diminishing returns with the 240. That is to say that going all the way to a 420 would be a lot more headache for minimal benefit.
>>108058718I was just thinking about futureproofing but you might be right. If I buy a 420mm rad soon but then only buy a beefier CPU some years down the line I effectively wasted a couple of years of lifespan for nothing. I'll have to think about this some more. But then again my current AIO is pretty old (almost 6 years now) so I need to get a new one soon-ish anyway.
>>108058746There's no desktop CPU on the market that can't be (very) adequately cooled with a 360 and that's unlikely to change in the near future as lithography improves. Plus your selection is a lot more limited at that size.For my money I'd get a 360, run it tubes down in the front with a single rear exhaust. Then add fans in the order: top rear, top mid, bottom intake and see if you get any improvement.
>>108058789The 420mm would mainly be for noise benefits as I think it would run more quietly than a 360. I got a be quiet silent base 801 with a mesh front, it says it can fit one and it looks like it could if I don't go for a fat arctic liquid freezer. I kinda want to keep the noise as low as possible.
>there is no shortages of anything>everything is readily available>just depends if you are poor or not>once more realize it's a money issue>If I werent povertymaxxing I could just buy a prebuilt 5090 instantly and move on with my life>nothing matters except moneylietrally just earn money, it is that simple
>>108058820If everyone had more money everything would be even more expensive or would be sold out
>>108058819>mainly be for noise benefits as I think it would run more quietly than a 360Yeah technically it would but you'd need a lot of heat going through them to make the difference discernable. Think OC'd 14900K levels. If that's you then go for it. OTOH if you're running a 245k or 9700X, hell even a 9950X, you could get it well below the noise floor with a 280.Just for reference, I run a 150W CPU under a 140mm air tower and it's quieter than my furnace - down the hall - 99% of the time. Proper tuning goes a lot further than throwing dissipation area at the problem.
>>108058690i only got tap water
>>108058896alcohol then
>>108058937>slav jank vodka build
>>108058877That's some good input. I might save myself the headache of worrying about fitting a 420mm and just go for 360 then. I just "like" the idea of a 420 because of lower fan RPMs but in practice it probably won't even make a difference since I'm not planning on running OCd top-of-the-line hardware, just a "high-end" CPU whenever the next gen comes out.
>>108058896you can make your own distilled water at home instead of paying for it
>>108058950Yeah I don't want to lie to you like "there's no difference" - just saying that modern top-end CPUs get 99% of their max performance at or under 200W and a good 360 can dissipate that with the fans running 1500RPM. Of course if that's still too loud, say if you do audio work, then feel free to get the 420. If you just want "a quiet PC" because it's nice then a 360 would be both cheaper and easier for an extremely minor penalty to noise levels. Again, tuning your system goes a long way.
>>108058549Tell that to this guy>>108057637
I want to get a case like this to transfer my old build into since I have a lot of hard drives but only want to spend $100ish. Needs to fit ATX and have space for at least 6 3.5" drives.What should I be looking for
Can I get some recommendations on a case, motherboard and CPU combo for a small form factor build with an rx 9070? I was thinking a 9800x3d, would that be wasted with a 9070? It would mostly for couch gaming at 4k in my living room (with upscalers when needed). Hoping to not spend more than 750 but the lower the better.
The sag on that Phantom Spirit looks absolutely diabolical.
>>108059262Anon... The list...
>>108059262Nobody is 100% straight.
>>108059219My ITX couch gaming pc consists of>case: fractal design era 2>cpu: 9800x3d>mobo: Asus ROG STRIX B850-I GAMING WIFI>cooler: be quiet pure loop 3I love it, it's been greatIf you want to go even smaller you could probably go with the fractal design Terra, but I would opt for a lower tdp cpu like the 9700x since you'll need a low profile coolerI mostly opted for the Era 2 because you've got more room for airflow being able to fit two low profile 120mm fans in the bottom pushing air up through the top mounted radiator that's exhausting air out (or two fans in the case that you're air cooling it)Another option to save dosh is to go with the 7800x3d
https://wccftech.com/amd-prepares-to-battle-pc-market-uncertainty-but-ceo-says-the-focus-will-stay-on-enterprise/Is over
>>108058010Set a custom fan curve if you want to minimize noise.I use P14 Pros for my radiator; they're set to run between 800~900 RPM most of the time.Go to the BIOS and find your comfortable fan RPM range.
>persistent WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR's occurring for almost a year now went away after upgrading 650W rectal discharge to 1200W doomperit's just that easy, huh?
>>108059305Most normies were saying they don't need new laptops & processors every (other) year, and they're generally right.AMD's just following the money like every other for-profit company.Normies are ahead of the curve if their system can run new games at the medium preset.
baker?
thread baker is now managing one of the dozen ai generalseven he has abandoned us.....
I gave up on baking after all the brand war bullshit. It's not really worth the effort to ensure the OP gives good advice, just for somebody to shit all over it next thread.
we won bros! jew lost.
>NVIDIA focuses on 8GB and 12Gb GPU models>mfw just bought a 5070 instead of a 5060 Ti 16GB>5060, 5060 Ti 8GB, 5070 will be 75% of the supplyFUCK MEBUY HIGHSELL LOW
>>108059279The list as in listing like a sinking ship or the list of problems reported by users?
>>108059466>>108059466>>108059466
>>108059451Just put whatever you want in the OP as long as it's not blatantly breaking one of the board rules.You can put all Intel + NVIDIA or all AMD OPs if that's your recommendation; it isn't instigating flame wars.Most people who actually reference the OP are priced out of this market.
>>108059451>after all the brand warYou mean 2015?
>>108059431>did not abandon. Had snu-snu, then fell asleep.Good morning, niggas.
>>108050842>>108050536How do I pull the wire out without detaching it from the pin/breaking it?And what do you mean soldering is "botch"? Like its easy to botch? it's more complicated than it needs to be? It can't carry current for some reason? etc.on an unrelated note, I'm getting real damn tired of selecting the picture with exactly 2 stars with 5 points. The other challenges are fine. I hate the stars for some reason.Also I got an 8 pin female to 2x 8 pin male CPU power cable, and figure I can basically just use one of the male ends to plug into the GPU.
>>108057267Interesting. Will do your second option. Thanks anon.>>108056595Mma is expensive if you compete.I have to keep my gear updated since I train 6 times a week and those gloves and shin pads does not take kindly to wrestling and grappling parts of mma.Then there are the competitions where you need to shell out money for going there, hotels, etc. Plus the medical certificates and checkups.Plus I go to an mma gym, a normal gym, and a wrestling gym. Thats a lot of license.The food is also expensive since I must eat a good diet to stay in shape and in weight.If you dont plan to compete, then its much much cheaper. The gear is an expensive initial investment (do NOT cheapen out on mouthguards and cups) but you wont wear them down as fast.Warhammer is expensive only for people who cant control themselves. I buy what I'll paint and paint what I bought. I dont have piles of unpainted minis, and I take my sweet time painting them, so I dont buy a lot. I just have two 2000 pts 40k army and basically another 2000pts of other minis. Thats less than 2k total, paints included.Pic rel is 2000 pts and didnt cost more than 600 euros.>>108056650I can save up much more than that. I just allocate the funds to my iher hobbies.
>>108057228Still haven't gotten around to building, sorry anon.
