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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>News & Rumors
The Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM prices
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
Prices rise for everything.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ

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update your bios

based predictor of the future
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/350c_AMJjdw

>whats it gonna be like 50 years from now, anons?

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I don't know if I'm imagining things or not, but something about this Phantom Spirit doesn't sit right with me.

>>108095467
if you look at the coldplate with a microscope it has all these pits and dents. its not a completely flat surface so we use paste to try to fill it in.

>>108095467
a non issue

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>>108095488
No I'm saying that the tilt on these towers is fairly noticeable even from a neutral position and I'm not sure if that's from the asymmetry of the design or because something is catastrophically bent somehow. This Hyper 212 is a lot straighter for example.

I am was worried for a while my thermals were compromised by uneven mounting pressure because I assumed this went down to the coldplate, but adjusting the tension on either screw seems to have no effect on the tilt.

Open airflow case temperatures went up to 70C on the 3700X in Small FFTs, though I saw a spike at one point to 80C most recently that went unexplained. This chip shouldn't go past the mid-60s regardless of paste pattern application, MX4 in this case.

>>108095584
the way you install makes all the difference in the world from paste to how you tighten the screws in a pattern.

How much better is the 9070xt vs the 9060xt if I'm use to 1080 60hz? Is 1440 and a faster refresh rate monitors much more common and cheaper now and less of a meme?

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>>108095584
Actually no, the Hyper 212 when centered is actually perfectly level on the 4770K, the PS120 is noticeably tilted downwards. I am superstitious.

>>108095619
It will be more future proof to get the 9070XT if you can afford it.

>>108095621
>level on the fan
are you taking the piss on us

Seriously considering ending my friendship with someone because I just found out they bought an njudea gpu instead of 9070 xt. I just can't bring myself to interact with someone anymore who would betray Lisa and AMD like this. When he first told me yesterday i just screamed at him and hung up the phone. now i woke up to texts from him begging it's not that serious but he just doesn't get jt

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>>108095671
You know he is.

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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.

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>>108095671
I just like to keep my fans level along with the heatsinks they are attached to.

>>108095720
No one cares mini mod faggot. Go make your own pcbg subbreddit if you wanna try and control the general like this

If there's one upgrade you could make for your PC and setup what would it be right now

>>108095760
big titty goth bitch

>>108095315
Dumbass Canadian jeet

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Well how about that. Something tells me this thermal paste pattern is not a coincidence, the area it was tilting towards is basically clean as you can see while the other side is still covered on both coldpate and IHS.

Looks like my X pattern the first time was actually perfect while my pea of babel here leaked out all onto the PCIE side and created air pockets. Maybe it was just bad paste application on my second attempt rather than just uneven mounting, but I will check the standoffs just to be sure.

>>108095645
Thanks for the rec.

>>108095799
and this is why we spread the paste instead of falling for reddit memes

>>108095799
>>108095811
that's why you buy ptm7950 and stop with the memes forever.

>>108095760
1000w psu -> 1200w psu

>>108095836
im not spending the money equivalent of an entire syringe mx7 for a single use pad on a bulky cooler

>>108095867
that single pad is not got to degrade. unless you like to repaste stuff i don't see any downsides.

>>108095867
you can buy in varying sizes. a sheet that will do your entire system (cpu,gpu,nvme) is like $26.

>>108095836
>that's why you buy ptm7950 and stop with the memes forever.
Are they reusable? I was thinking about buying a sheet to chop up and use for my CPU and GPU from a supposedly legit seller, but I already bought 45g of MX4 a long while back. Bought had it with cleaning the paste off the AM4 socket for hours last time.

How do you tell if you got legit 7950 versus a cheap knockoff anyway?

>>108095896
>Are they reusable?
not but why would you remove the cooler again.

>>108095836
>ptm7950
I tried it (Kryosheet), seems to work as advertised. Would recommend.

>>108095896
>Are they reusable?
no
>a sheet
>from a supposedly legit selle
lmao
>How do you tell if you got legit 7950 versus a cheap knockoff anyway?
you dont, you heave no test stand and no reference numbers. You will forever wonder if your temps could be better or not

>>108095799
Just spread the paste evenly on the socket before installing the CPU!

>>108095896
>Are they reusable?
Supposedly. Not sure what it will be like after some years but have re-used this type of materials in the past.

>>108095760
4090 -> 6090

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>>108095910
>You will forever wonder if your temps could be better or not
I got paste for days that is best before 2032 so I'll be doing that anyway, don't know about the Mastergel from 8 years ago or whatever Thermalright bundled here.

>>108095811
>>108095912
The point of the paste is to push the air out, by spreading it evenly you'll just trap more air when pushing the cooler onto it.

>>108095931
never had air between my cpu and cooler. that's a meme. if you press it down and turn it a bit left and right it should be fine. like what is this bullshit. that's past and not some screen protector.

>>108095931
the point of spreading is to wet the entire heatspreader. the dot in theory with the glass plate test spreads evenly, but with a bulky tower cooler and just two mounting screws thats not always the case, pressing the paste out towards one side while the other stays uncoated.
And on modern cpucs with chiplets thats not good. Nobody recoments the center dot anymore.
meanwhile a few tiny air bubbles dont even have measurable impact

>>108095931
No matter how evenly you spread it, you can't make it any thinner than possible gaps between cooler and HS. But the thinner you get it the better even the heat transfer.

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>>108095811
>>108095912
Since when was the Verge build method the meta?

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>>108095925
I don't like those suspiciously AM4 CPU shaped scratches on that coldplate

>>108095978
my awakening was when i opened a waranty seal intact amd gpu (not mine) and looked at 1/3 of the die not being coated at all, no residue from pump-out, just shiny silicon

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If you wonder why 4chan feels dead now this is why

>>108096000
Frost the cake dude. It's guaranteed 100 percent coverage.

>>108096080
What about leakage?

>>108095904
You know, having a be quiet case for the first time even if it's a hotbox from 10 years ago makes me realize I should have appreciated German designed products sooner (where it makes sense)

>>108096067
Idgi

>>108096098
Just lick it off.

Isn't the spread method only effective for stuff like LGA 1700 and up CPUs?

>>108096209
No it works on everything. Thermal paste is generally non conductive. Too much is better than too little.

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what gpu should i get? im using my rig for gaming and modeling 3d 4k furry asses

i live in mexico bordering texas, my budget is my 3080 and 450 dollars

>buy 3080 founders on release
>spec out everything
>mine for 2 years
>sell as soon as payout hits my balance
>free PC
there will never be a time as good as that. anyone who bought a graphics card back then was basically getting a free high-end gaming PC, especially if they lived in an apartment with free utilities.

>>108096067
I really wonder how low the post count will get eventually
I see it trickling down every day at a faster rate than ever
I've lost count the times I went to make a thread, saw the new shit they got and up just went fuck it, it's not that deep

>>108096234
4090 buyers are up there as well. Play for years and make money selling used.

>>108096246
they really want people to buy a 4chan pass but nobody is buying a 4chan pass after they raised the prices and the leaks+weeks long downtime exposed how shit the service is.

>mounting a convex coldplate cooler (ps120) on a convex IHS (zen 2) cpu
>wtf why my paste application weird
>wtf why my coldplate scratched up and fucked up
>wtf why my temps bad
Baka...

>>108096067
i've been hearing people complaining about the stars or whatever but i still have the easy 'good' ones so now I see the issue.
I figured AI wouldn't have a problem with these anyway but was kind of surprised it can't make heads or tails of em

>>108096234
Should be able to afford a 5070ti if you look hard enough

>>108096231
>gaming and modeling
What modeling software you are using, maybe that will help anons advise.

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>>108096231
5070 minimum for actual productivity. If you can spring a ti, great, but not really as important.

I got a 5080 for below MSRP.
But, you know, maybe I should have got a 5090.

>>108096280
You get the harder ones when your try to make a thread.
The ones just for posting are easy.

How much does RAM speed matter? I have bought half the parts for a new PC, but I haven't bought any RAM yet. It'll have to be DDR5 so I'm going to be eating shit whatever happens, but I've seen much cheaper DDR5 RAM that's just got a lower speed. Will that be a problem?

>>108096370
With X3D, it doesn't for gaming.
For everything else, it's a few percentages, but it's not a massive deal.
It was spoke about more when RAM was cheap and getting fast RAM was only a $100 premium. Now it's like twice the price and makes sense to nobody.

anon tip

tldr: some stuff will get dumped on the used market, so don't panic stuff that's too old.

Basically the usa is running out of electricity. the whole world, actually.

so, this basically puts pressure on older hardware that isn't efficient.

VERY FEW old things will be kept.

That's the basic situation.

also, if you are smart you'll BUY a real gas/propane generator. Even if you have plenty of money & the grid stays up, the smart grid may say "whoa, too many watts gamer girl*"

*ywnbaw

>>108096377
16 gb ddr5 5 6000 with a 9800x3d is good?

>>108096452
What's the CL?

>>108096452
Shoot for 32gb even if you have to get slower speeds. Nothing is slower than running out of RAM. Freezing and crashing is far worse than a 5 percent performance hit.

>>108096539
they coulda said this at any time but say it in the time when memory is the most expensive ever

>>108096539
Windows 11 needs 32gb to run the spyware.

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>>108095799
The best paste pattern is windmill of friendship and tolerance.
My CPU never gets above 85 ℃ at maximum stress test

>>108096452
16gb is bad man I'm reaching close to that sometimes with a browser with a few tabs and an open game.

>>108096472
Cl 32

>>108096550
I'll buy then

>>108096632
Fuck me

>>108095904
>ptm7950
>I tried it (Kryosheet)
Those are two different things.

The former is a very thin, light gray putty like sheet. PTM7950 is the Honeywell name.
The latter is a shiny, paper thin graphene sheet. Kryosheet is the Thermal Grizzly name.

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>>108096539
>>108096551
>>108096556
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/optimize-your-gaming-pc-setup

7800X3D/13700K/4080/7900XTX are the Microsoft recommended CPU+GPU combo for a immersive next gen experience. Everything else is driver issues or hardware issues.

>>108096663
9070xt no good?

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>>108096677
Even AMD recommends you use Linux over Windows. AMDVLK was dropped and Windows has no replacement like RADV.

>>108096700
I tried Linux but it was difficult, I tried arch

>>108096714
Try Mint or if you're super normie those gaming distros like Bazzite.

>>108096730
Like I'm a bit of a schizo, but bad at computers

I'll try bazzite

My B650M-HDV/M.2 fried and I need a new mobo. My specs = 9800x3d + 4090 + 2x32gb CL30 ram.
Which of these 4 would you go with?
1. Asus Tuf Gaming B850m-plus Wifi DDR5 AM5 ATX - $360
2. Asrock X670e Pg Lightning DDR5 AM5 ATX - $420
3. Asus Prime X870-p Wifi DDR5 AM5 ATX -$440
4. Asus Rog Strix B850-g Gaming Wifi DDR5 ATX AM5 -$470
>inb4 buy xyz instead
Unfortunately these 4 are my only options. Communist country with not many options, prease understand.

Anons what do you think nvidia has in store for this "upgraded" 5090 this year?

>>108096663
>modern quad-core
>Ryzen 5600/Intel 12400
lol, lmao, they're not even trying to hide this article was entirely written by AI.

>>108096809
a 6 core turns into a 4 core with how windows hogs up 2 favorite cores.

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>>108096840
Was discussing core count in last thread. Windows and Linux both love having lots of cores. Ubuntu will run anything I throw at it on my devbox which has 36 physical cores. You should try XP maxed out in a VM, keks can be had.

>>108095467
>>108095584
>>108095621
Put the spirit level/bubble level on the surface of your deskopt/table where your case is, and post a pic.

>random black screen (no gpu signal) while using computer
>restart computer 3 times and still no signal
>plug the GPU in second PC, no signal even after 3 reboots
>4th reboot finally get a signal
>PC running and stable for 1 hour now
So is my GPU dying or not? What the fuck does this mean?

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>>108095959
I usually spread mine paper thin with a fresh razor blade. Pic related was what I did with a sample of MX-7 for keks.

>>108096890
I heard MX-7 is not spreadable. Can you confirm?
Also that seems like way too much paste IMO.

>>108096887
no display at the bios is always a hardware issue. dying vbios chip, dying display controller, dying ports, etc.

>>108096916
The only thing to much does is make a mess. To little is far worse.

>>108096887
is it new or old? if its old its dying. if its new you need to update the bios on both the mobo & gpu.

>>108096916
>heard MX-7 is not spreadable. Can you confirm?
It did not look like it would easily be spreadable. It was not sticky, sort of blobby.

>Also that seems like way too much paste IMO.
It was the most teutonically accurate amount to work on exactly one cpu. Came in the box with my LF III Pro 360 but I used kryosheet instead.

>>108096921
>>108096931
It's a 6800 XT (5 years old) so it'll presumably just get worse and worse until it gives up then?

>>108097073
do the fans run at max speed when it goes black?or is it they dont spin at all? if its the former then its a power issue. if its the latter then its a dead card.

>>108097133
>do the fans run at max speed when it goes black?
No, they spin normally.
>power issue
As in PSU? Unlikely as I've tried 2 different ones. If you mean some on board (GPU) power issue then potentially.

>>108097149
6800xt can transient spike up to 600w with these oc bios and some psus shit their pants at that when booting up.

>>108095811
All you assholes were telling me x pattern the other week

>>108097163
Both are 750w and I used the first one for like 1-2 years with the GPU and the second one for the rest of the 3-4 years. They're not going to both not work with a GPU they previously worked with for years at the same time.

Also the original black screen wasn't at boot but after like 4 hours of uptime.

I wasn't planing on buying a new pc (was waiting for my 2017 build to be 10yo) but seeing how everything is going up in price got me thinking, do you think it's a good idea buying my next rig right now?

I'm thinking about picrel

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>>108097193
whooops, forgot pic

>>108096784
Post country commie.
Do all 4 of these options have everything you need? Io ports wifi etc?

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7900 XTX with radv driver on Linux is faster than 5090 on jeetdows. Only with radeon graphics can you experience what it's like to be the Batman at nearly a locked 1000 hz