SEA baller editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Snowsky Melody (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>108087500
>there is no audio but FR and ASR is its prophet>look inside>i use apple dongle because i blew out my eardrumsevery time, every deafzo post
This thread is dedicated to the 3 brave /iemg/ posters who lost their hearing during the summer of 2025.
>>108105724>>108105731Hi deafzo, change your moldy pads and learn to EQ.
Stormposter is RIGHT. Stop berating him.It is indeed impossible to EQ the THD and phase issues of the storm with a single DD. Even subtonic themselves couldn’t do it with the relaunch. It truly is a POS to behold.
Aliexpress $5 shitbud Guide: You have to live in US for lowest price, get daily coins from widget and gogo match, do saving wednesday, grab sale or saver coupon, grab store coupon. Then PEQ it to perfection why buy anything else? Thus sayeth Crinacle.$2 Dawn 1DD$3 EDC Pro 1DD$3 AK6 Pro$4 Rue 1DD$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer$5 Libra X 1DD$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer$5 Kunten 1DD$6 ED9 Pro 1DD$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Venus 1DD$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)$12 Waner 1DD$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$14 Bunny 1DD$14 PR2 1planar$15 Luna 1planar$18 Decet 5DD$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
>>108105779I bought all these, can you recommend a hearing aid for me now?
Ordered green cadenza. Xduoo shill kys. Fuck hifigo too.
Have some high resolution 96KHz vinyl rips for listening on your low THD Chu IIs. Price is inverse to quality.https://files.catbox.moe/7zknfz.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/4ejn0f.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/a6yaam.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/1xygvi.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/oy69pa.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/1c8i98.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/i9j2vi.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/bu07gn.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/7hvatc.flac
>>108105775All the studies show that distortion either doesn't matter or that it's bad(for "Transient Response and Impulse Fidelity"). There must be something else that completely overshadows these flaws.
planar resolution, back in town
>>108105972*planar rape 2
everything goes back to techs = thd
>>108105986what does low thd do for an audio mix that is purposefully mixed congested instruments with narrow imaging?
>>108105993Uncongests and widens it. If you had more than 2 IEMs you'd know.
>when I see somebody talking about distortion
>>108105743>>108105845absolutely deaf read EQ guide kudasai
>>108106210What not reading the guide does to a motherfucker.
>>108105986
>>108106217deaf. read EQ guide and refer to picrel, low THD $5 shitbuds can too be yours
Post more PR2s.
>>108106237See >>108106230
>>108106230>>108106237KZ, not even once.
>>108106245deaf. eq guide is here btw https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/ then you can enjoy a $5 shit bud
Might get the truthear gate off amazon I am just going to use for my phone/laptop I have hd600s but they are no good for being in bed or for being anywhere but my main PC desu.Does them having a mic or not make a difference?
>>108106262>buyer's remorseread the eq guide.
>>108106263>>1081062774% is not low, deafzo. Visit audiologist immediately.
>>108106273h****** l**
>>108106285i mean like does it add noise to the audio I have had cheap headsets with mics and the mic always adds a buzzing or something Im new to in ear earphones
>>108105965It’s all just sunk cost fallacy. The human mind can become so warped that negative qualities become good, and vice versa. Evil is good and good is evil, etc.Why do you think modern day “heroes” advocate for porn addicted children to chop off their genitals and masquerade as the opposite sex? Because they’re effing delusional and they want company.Similar with audiophiles who spend multiple thousands on gear that does nothing or actually performs worse. It’s sunk cost fallacy mixed in with pseudoscience and genuine self induced schizophrenia. That’s how distortion becomes techs.
>>108106281nigga i’m pretty sure the 4% THD meme was with 13 year old Bose POS
>>108106449Reincarnated as PR2.
>>108106061>"the lower the THD, the higher the techs"/iemg/ dogma of the month>If you had more than 2 IEMs you'd know.I have a dozen pos, around half of which were given to me by a reviewer. but keep assuming shit
anonstechs = thd means that higher thd = more techs, not the other way around
>>108106502Chatgpt is not a reviewer bro.
>>108106502>unironically associating yourself with micro eceleb attention whore shill faggotsYIKES! Could not be me.
>>108106502>actual pagpag in the SEA edition threadHold me....
>>108106502>around half of which were given to me by a reviewer.>got earwax filled second hand filter clogged possuddenly, all questions were answered
earwax improves techs by taming resonances, don't clear your iems or you might lose techs
>>108106609Why buy anything else if you have 6 pos PEQ'd to perfection.
>>108106527You can filter distortion to the extent opamps can be turned into tubes and back/emulated and it's the same with deltasigma algos and resistors. One of the benefits of having 16-bit.
>>108106611>>108106914>got earwax filled second hand filter clogged pos.exactly. where else would I get techs?
No matter how bad you think this place is(and believe…it can get awful)Remember, it can always be worse.https://youtu.be/q4sR5QSy3ok?si=AIzI0SPJn2IZvJdr
$5 shitbud alert
>>108107109edc pro mogs both
>>108107151in causing hearing loss
I decided to get me some ZS10 Pro Xes after seeing Deafzo post it in a toilet, the absolute retard confused it for a PR2 kek. Paid $0 on TEMU for it along with some kitchen supplies I needed and then deleted the app and my account because it's a fucking awful marketplace. I will be reviewing it shortly.
>>108107188The first thing I did was plug it into my trusty balanced cables - the KBear ST12.
>>108107188How is it deafzo?
>>108107156you appear to be deaf, please refer to the eq guide at https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/
>>108107219yes unfortunately i listened to kzs, will the eq guide cure my deafness?
>when the schizo with perfect hearing sees the volume is at 0%
>when the deafzo with no hearing sees his volume is at 100%
>>108105915usecase for 96khz?
>>108107247most raped kikeslave. congrats man
>>108107252its ironic deafzo loves to call people raped but the only thing thats raped, in the end, is his hearing
Here in moondrop we ensure that all our product are handcrafted by our female workers. So that you may feel the touch of a woman
>>108107249for vinyl rips, absolutely none.
>>108107677Use case for vinyl rips?
>>108106997The jeet mind can't comprehend a DAC.
>>108107754deafmaxxing
>>108106273>>108106305No difference, the mic is on a separate wire.
Friendly reminder for anyone with a Y1 and rockbox, I made a fork that removes the boot-up pride logo. (For those of you who don't know, the person who makes the rock box port for this device plastered that ridiculous, trans pride logo full screen when you turn the device on). https://files.catbox.moe/pguijg.apkI built this APK yesterday. So just sideload it onto your device and you'll have the same nice rockbox experience without the gay propaganda.
>>108108324you're an angel.
>>108107249most DAC chips oversample by only 8xif you oversample 48khz to 192khz and you're doing it correctly(same or compatible fir mode) then you're effectively getting ((48*4)*8) oversamplingnot bad at all, actually this may explain why linux/mac people say they get better audio quality than windows, would need an analyzer to confirm it
>>108108338Aw thanks anon
>>108108354Use case for oversampling?
>>108108324The sound will still be trans because of the subbass rolloff though.
>>108108520Ok
>>108108516look up on desuarchive or google what non oversampling delta sigma skibidi dacs(aka NOS) do to your audio signalin short it's very bad, oversampling is the only fix for it and bigger numbers are better in that case although the industry standard 8x is good enough for most usecases
>>108108552So people are buying broken DACs and then trying to "fix" them with software? What is this mental illness called?
>>108108562They actually don'tThey listen to the NOS dac with aliased ultrasonic images of the original sound line MQA hasIt's like R2R and tube amp and vinyle memes, no reason to buy it if you want good quality
>>108109302R2R is bad?
PEQ it to perfection. Why buy anything else?
You can buy your low THD Moondrop Chu IIs for only $10 using coupons at https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNwgFOD Don't let Deafzo troll you with his buyer's remorse.
>>108109302If there's no low pass filter then the dac is broken. It literally violates the sampling theorem. NOS is a misnomer anyway. Low pass filter doesn't need any oversampling.
just asking again, because the offer is still upIs the subtonic storm worth it at 4-5k?I just want the best, I am mostly a gamer and listen to remixes on youtube.I have scarlet 2i2 and good computer, maybe I can get the machine for my phone as well.
>>108108324Just accept you're using troonware for deafies.
>>108109505yes that's a great choice for your usage cases, enjoy anon!
>>108109505Yes, then save up for the Sovereign Symphony cable upgrade https://nightjaracoustics.com/pages/cable-info
>>108109582Nah
>>108105860>1 day FREE DHL EXPRESS deliveryDamn bors. I'm a hifi-passion.de shill now. Literally getting my Cadenzas tomorrow plus tips and the gayass orange dingling dongle holster. Hope the website stops sucking ass and they have more variety in the future, but I'm done supporting ch*nese stores. Supporting ch*nese brands is bad enough.
>>108105696Apologies about posting again, I ended up putting this out as soon as the last thread died so here we goI had my old beater earbuds finally die on me, so I decided to use this as an excuse to finally get something better than a cheap gifted pair.>Budgetaround 100-120 and under>Intended use (media, source, environment)I wanted to find a pair of semi in-ear/ semi open buds because I tend to use them in exercising or work where I'd like to listen to everything around me. my previous buds were the normal ones and they just cut out too much of the outside>Frequency response preference and music examplesit'll be a bit of everything as always, but it's mostly going to be jazz, beat tape style of music, and old house>Past gear and your thoughts on themHD558's are my daily headphones, I'll need to replace them sometime too but that's for another time.I've never actually had a pair of name brand buds before, pretty much everything I've had were no-name copies. First pair of wireless were copies of first gen airpods, physical buttons on them were nice and being semi open was why I liked them so much- but audio was not good at all.Second pair were equivalent to cheap copies of modern standard with touch controls, but they'd lose signal all the time and the touch never worked right.Thank you in advance for any advice- you guys have been a great help in the past helping me choose my dap and headphones
>>108109643I don't know anything about cable but I did see this combo on YouTube https://youtube.com/shorts/b__9kDbmgyg?si=hFRlQ8DH7tHelYVhWhat does having a good cable do and does it effect my phone and computer
expensive cables for pos are all snakeoil
>>108109505This is a troll post right?A 5k$ POS for gayman and youtube videos?Just get a Qudelix 5k(overkill) and some PEQ program like Equalizer APO or something and any comfortable well sealing POS will work. If you’re a shartur fan and think isolation is for queers then get the samsung io-955 just prepare for shit QC and awful channel matching.Or if you really are a total faggot then ignore everything I said and pay 5k for the storm and hook it up direct to your mobo and let the output impedance fuck your ears so bad you get schizophrenia
>>108110495hello saar
Why buy anything else? It's $10 and is the lowest THD pos posted in this thread. THD costs extra and price is inverse to driver quality.
Audio has been solved a long time ago.
>>108110982You couldn't even hear 4% THD though.
>>108110495>Just get a Qudelix 5k(overkill) and some PEQ program like Equalizer APOwhat's wrong with Qudelix's PEQ? also, you're ESL>>108110982nobody is saying Chu 2 has good techs though. and nobody is saying THD=techs.
Audio was solved on April 3nd, 2024 at exactly 3:15AM in the morning.
>>108111009>>108111011Deaf. Read the EQ guide and then come back to /iemg/ https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/
>>108111021EQ guide didn't help you hear 4% THD though
>>108109302>>108108562>>108108552>>108107758The full 16 bits eludes these enslaved rape victims.
Imagine being too much of a poorfag to afford a 16-bit DAC in 2026 saaaar
>>108111021>>108111014>>108110993>>108110982>>108111040Deaf.
>>108111050Post your hand deafzo lol you won't
>>108111048Imagine being deaf enough for a 16 bit DAC.
>>108111071Post your audiogram. Oh wait, you already have lmao >>108105731
Is there a true reason to buy anything else?
nooooo! im gonna have to wait 2 extra weeks for my 2 dollar EDC pros!
>>108111139Raped.
>says to buy chu 2 and EQ>uses pr2 with no EQWhat did he mean by this.
>>108111048$8 dacs do 24-bit>>108111021you're saying nothing just like the eq guide says a lot of nothing. >>108111139mogged by EA500LM. not a fair comparison, really.
>>108111201>ESLchu 2 needs EQ, PR2 doesn't. simple as.
>>108111242You need a hearing aid.
>>108111242>PR2 doesn'tTotal hearing loss.
>>108111040>16 bit>look inside>8 bit
>>108111389what's your source?
Good posI like these, sounds good and takes eq wellClear shells always look the best
>>108111674Nice bro, unfortunately the SEA gang will say to replace it with $5 shitbuds + eq
>>108107249What made you think Nyquist–Shannon is a metric?
>>108105696Why do my 3 year old iems have such shit dynamic range, is this just a quirk all iems have? I don't get this >*beat 1*>bass >*beat 2* >noticable split second rise in treble volume >full volume treble >*beat 3*effect on my sony xm4s closed backshere's the song for reference: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vIT56ynKptsI feel like a lunatic
>>108111174what am I looking at?
Have you EQd to PEQdB diamond today? It's endgame.
>nooooo i need to pay more for THD and worse comfortwhat causes this mental illness
>>108112788>moreKZ PR2 is a $5 shitbud and has all the THD you'll ever need. And it makes you deaf.
>>108112680Combine the mid bass from ultra with diamond's mids and treble and you have endgame, EA500LM.
>>108111011i’m assuming nothing…i just used APO because, idk idc. It was easier I guess.Also wtf is ESL?
>>108108562sox does it better than some budget IC
>>108112820Don't forget the earwax.>>108113046The difference is at 20kHz. Pointless for most people.
Is 10 band eq enough for a v shape or should I fiddle with 15 bands? I'm happy with the result, I don't know if I need more actually
