Fuck Matrix Shills. Fuck Element. Pick something else.

Did they ever fix synapse sending metadata to matrix.org (israel) even if you don't federate?

why do i need an alternative when i'm not in any servers and my only friend isn't gonna age verify either? Seems pointless.

Why not retvrn to irc?
Also there is also Zulip now.

Going outside and talking to people irl is also an option, over 8 billion users

pick this bloated server architecture with ties to israel that has more lines of code than sissyd just to log/display chat to users

Just use Telegram or steam chat

Kill yourself.

>>108111997
>Fuck Matrix Shills. Fuck Element. Pick something else.
No. We're probably at like 500 replies across 3 threads now. Matrix is the obvious winner. Notices how you didn't list an alternative? You're just here to bitch. Fuck off!

>>108111997
The best alternative to Discord is not using Discord or anything like it.

>>108112091
>Just use Telegram or steam chat
Steam screen sharing feels clunky. I can't figure out how to "broadcast" and the group chat won't even fucking open. They took the Steam Authenticator away, so now the Steam Mobile app likes to refuse to authenticate. I never had a problem with the standalone authenticator. Shit like this is why Discord got popular.

>>108112136
Matrix sucks. It's complex, shady, and has ties to israel.

>>108112214
It's cool that you only play singler player games, but you don't have to post. You can just fuck off instead.

>>108112214
>just don't have or interact with friends bro

Try Stoat??

>>108112285
>Try Stoat??
unfinished & unusable

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>>108112300
I have both, but they lack some of Discords text, video, and image sharing functions.

>>108112063
Because you're both gonna be treated as teens, and so every chat you're in is gonna get automatically moderated and restricted/deleted or you two banned if you share anything "adult".

>>108112290
I mean its pretty good, looks like discord has tenor gif support, open source uses solidJS and has a rust backend.

if I'm required to do this, I'll just generate an AI photo of my face and push that through OBS for their verification system, or use one of the thousands of leaked photo IDs from that tea app leak last year.

>>108112285
Their servers are completely fucked right now I had to wait 20 hours for a verification email and when I clicked it the site wouldn't load

Element is the correct answer. Been using it for 9 years with 0 issues. Don't let retards meme on you and convince you it sucks.

>>108111997
It's obvious that the reason Discord is doing this in the US is that selling user data is big $$$. They have no legal obligation to force ID verification in the US.

>Look up sex offenders near me
>Use their face for verification

>>108112300
Nta but I think I’m gonna download one of these 2. Probably teamspeak. I mean in all honesty, if you look at the way the world (especially the US) is going, it’s getting closer and closer to the beast system in Revelation. In other words a system set up where there is no privacy, you can’t run or hide anywhere- that sorta dystopian stuff.
Call me crazy, I don’t care. Gotta accept Jesus, cause He’s the only hope. There’s no way out of this sort of thing. What are we gonna do? Protest? lol “They” don’t care. Anyway, I refuse to show my ID to use discord. That’s retarded. Probably should get a dumb phone as well, but unfortunately I don’t think I could.

>>108112309
Unix philosophy: to each purpose their program

>>108112573
Shut the fuck up you bumbling schizophrenic, get checked in a clinic and don't come out.

>>108112364
k then i won't share anything adult, simple as lol

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>>108111997
mIRC

not being able to post emotes and other garbage while being able to see more than 4-5 lines of text is something positive

>>108112646
You don't define (and won't really know past the obvious) what "adult" entails for discords standards.

Plus, they can always change those standards.

>>108112620
No, that's a deliberate misreading of the Unix philosophy from someone who has never been paid to code. "Communication" can be the "purpose" of the "program," asshole, and that includes multimedia messages.

>>108112219
Steam broadcasting isn't supported on Linux since it's only been 10 years. There is some convoluted way of broadcasting using the web client, but not thanks. I just want to screen share with other gamers. Shame on valve for this.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/548F-BC55-89EB-1BC8
>What operating systems can I broadcast from?
>Steam Broadcasting is currently supported through the Steam Client on Windows 10 and newer. Linux and macOS will be supported in the future.

Soon TM

>>108112632
I love you too, friend.

Element is such a buggy mess, they can't even fix this shit
https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/issues/28067

guilded still an option?

>>108113015
I thought guilded shut down

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>>108111997

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr
https://github.com/coracle-social/flotilla

seems pretty interesting. public key crypto that isn't hardware restricted or big tech dependent (having trouble finding that no phone required throwaway email service lately) is awesome. self deploying a https://github.com/coracle-social/zooid was pretty straight forward and done on minimal hardware.

>>108113041
you're right, I just checked.

My drivers license expires next month so I'm just gonna Photoshop the date from the new one onto the old one (that has my old address) so when it inevitably leaks and someone decides they want to rape me in the middle of the night they're actually breaking into an abandoned property

>>108112214
Mass-surveillance and censorship are bad and all that, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't feeling a touch of schadenfreude at the moment. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Serves them right for using shit like Discord in the first place.

>>108111997
I'm sorry but if you didn't quit this shithole as soon as they started demanding a phone number then you're not quitting now either.

>>108113480
I've never given them my phone number. I don't think I had to since I had 2 factor authentication via a third party app.

I made a private matrix server (non federated, non callback) with friends a long time ago. Also a private teamspeak. We are comfy.

We tried to spin up fucking revolt/stoat today and the docker deploy doesn't support voice chat and spacebar is a nightmare to even install.

If anyone wants to just be with their friends just install teamspeak. Don't say bad words on steamchat because if your account get banned you know... Your gabens...

>>108114392
>Don't say bad words on steamchat because if your account get banned you know... Your gabens...
Does that include nigger? I've said nigger on Steam chat a whole bunch of times.

>>108114599
Yeah, only reason most of it hasn't been actionable is because gaben hasn't released the AI mod to nuke accounts yet.

>>108114630
By the time he dies 30+ years from now we'll likely have moved onto a whole new technology platform.

What alternative to use when you just want a IRC server with invite/account limit, ability to post images/mp4s inline, and store all data on a local server?

like something you just copy over via ftp, point it to a sql connection, create a root account, and open in a browser and that's it?

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dude discord is so fucking cancer with all the widgets and gadgets and wahoos and bingbangs like jesus fucking christ

>>108114690
lol fuuuck this is exactly how I feeeeeeeeeeel. zoomers fucking love it for some reason. but its such fucking garbage. and people paying money to HYPE a server is actually brain dead retarded. what a shitty system.

>>108111997
if element/matrix is the best from what you can tell they you are an idiot.
it wont replace discord because it requires too much of its users.

shit that we at /g/ dont mind dealing with. but most other people will find annoying, tedious and stupid. making it difficult for them to use it.

for casuals, which make up the majority of marketshare. you need something simple and easy to use like discord. matrix is not it.

>>108114672
You can probably already do all of this with the right IRC plugins and clients

>>108112388
>tenor
That shitpile of low-quality gifs can stay ten-or-eleven miles away.

>>108112300
Does the JB mumble still exist?

>>108112224
what's wrong with having ties to israel? you wouldn't be on 4chan if you actually cared

>>108112260
i see them irl, and if they are far i talk through signal.

>>108114949
4chan is a public website, anyone who actually cares takes that into account and posts with it in mind. Having israel (or any other sort of glowniggers)involved in private communications is an entirely different issue.

>>108114764
>if element/matrix is the best from what you can tell they you are an idiot.
You haven't given a better option.

>>108115008
looks like the jew spying is only the default option to let you start chatting as quickly as possible, and the schizos always have the option to cut their chat off from sending matrix any information

>>108112632
tranny

>>108112718
The Discord devs are literally sharing and allowing furry cartoon child pornography. Do you think these fuckers have standards?

>>108115025
Does Synapse actually let you turn off sending metadata back to matrix.org even when you don't federate now? None of the matrix shills will answer this.

what happened to root as an alternative? I thought that client is close to discord environment.

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>>108111997
Realistically, what if we all just screamed at Element.io the problem and/or feature we want fixed on twitter? We bullied the sonic movie into correcting itself, surely, we can bully another company into making billions again.

>>108115097
Probably won't get a lot of traction on /g/ because it's closed source and isn't really privacy focused. Normies and their friends would probably like it a lot. Oh also screenshare doesn't work on Linux rn

>>108115045
How do you prove a negative? Please show us in the source code, where it pings back in non-federated mode.

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>>108114764
>>108115009
www.tincanapp.org