>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 9950X3D*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.*On Raptor Lake microcode is mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*<16 gb constrained even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>108106417
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.This OP has modified:>>*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pto*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p>News & RumorsThe Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM pricesMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ [Embed]
>>108112415nice futa cock
Reasons not to buy PULSAR monitors:>loud internal fan required for cooling the hot backlights>requires Nvidia GPU and Windows 11>more $$$ to pay for Nvidia licensing>IPS is still slower than OLED when both are in VRR mode
>>108112415
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
>put together 3000 dollar pc >graphics card not detected led is on >reseat it, plug it back in to the power supply >it works, i install windows and some drivers >restarts just fine >unplug it so I can get some files off my old pc >plug it back in >graphics card led is on again >no display >spend the rest of the day trying to fix it and go to bed nearly suicidal and with a severe headache im thinking about jumping off my balcony head first with it in my hands
i took 4 days off in anticipation of playing it, now day 2 is almost over and i have a 3000 dollar brick
what's the best case for a tranny, a chad, and a chud? A soidev too, if you really want to humor me (;
>>108112512pbkac
>>108112512>RX 9070 XTA fine midrange 4k card, anon.
>>108112513Sounds rough, anon. Check the alignment with the case - maybe the case is causing the card to pull up out of the slot.
>>108112539https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/14811https://github.com/IrisShaders/Iris/issues/2763>>108112540it can't play minecraft for 10 minutes
>>108112557>can't play minecraft>>108112420>Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
>>108112525Op merely made a >>108111770 /pcbg/ dream come true.
>Muh 5K monitor!
What's the point of your fancy 5080 or 5070ti if its paired with slow as shit 5600CL36 or a AMDip chip or a laggy non OLED panel?
>>108112490not beating the allegation. 4chan.org/lgbt/
>>108112602what allegations am i trying to beat? 20 years of porn addiction including fchan/gurochan have annihilated me.
>>108112621that everyone that likes anime is a tranny faggot nigger
>>108112627Anime site faggot
>>108112630the only anime i see is from you nigger and your degen friends.
the xbox pc is cummingxbox won? hold out for xbox pc?xbox pc vs steam pc?https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/exclusive-the-next-gen-xbox-2027-locked-in-most-ambitious
>>108112627Well you're just wrong if that's your accusation, I don't suffer from autogynephilia in the slightest. I don't believe that is tied solely to porn addiction, and while I could believe that is one component, I think there are several criteria that need to be met and one of them is not having a masculine figure in your life to look up to and want to be like. My dad set the standard for that when I was little by being a cool lumberjack handyman I wanted to be.Fatherless+porn addiction is the real headshot tbdesu.
>>108112672this is just a copium piece using ai chatbot buzzwords.>le xbox handheld is windows so every future xbox is a windows pcfirst of all asus did that not microsoft. they just allowed them to use the branding like the WD playstation ssds.
>>108112682https://youtu.be/tMPep2lm__4?
>>108112589Bro you already said you are happy on your 3060 gpu and outed yourself as a poorfag, it's time to stop complaining about expensive tech
>>108112728I already knew about blue collar strength, some of the strongest people I've ever known never went to a gym and looked completely normal but had otherwordly grip and core stability. But this is the first time I've seen/heard of blue collar footwork...
>>108112474>>loud internal fan required for cooling the hot backlightssource? never heard this once yet>>IPS is still slower than OLED when both are in VRR mode360 vs 540 no need to even mention this as a point
>>108112512you were warned about AMD.
>>108112824So I shouldn't buy AMD CPUS? Also how do people know which is which is faulty? Isn't the CPU sending the commands and the RAM is recording those commands and the GPU just blindly accepts even though the CPU or RAM can be faulty?
>>108112842Nobody here is talking about the CPU, just AMD Radeon GPUs.
You can tell the GPU only has 3 screws holding the heatsink by the hotspot temperature, if the sight of the standoff not being fully seated wasn't obvious enough, xD.I would say this is enough to at least continue the case torture test, but the results will be useless and contaminated with the hotspot temperature, so maybe I should have just DDU'd, stuck a HD 7970 or 290X in, and continued that way.
>>108112851>Nobodydon't forget about the several HUNDRED people on earth who have suffered from a burned out 9800x3d so far!!!!
>>108112862I mean yes thats but that also happened with the 13th and 14th gen intels, it's completely unrelated to what is being talked about here so quit being pedantic.
>>108112851This doesn't answer my questions...How can one be confident its the PCIE slot if the PCIE slot is dumb and only accepts what the CPU tells it?
>>108112824but i saw so many people having driver issues on the 5070 ti
>>108112882did you even bother to look at his screenshot? or the bug reports linked? its quite fucking evident what the issue is. You can't seriously think every single user who has a problem with Radeon cards is also overclocking everything to the tits and that's why it happens, thats retarded thinking.>>108112886you know if you actually google "nvidia freezing" and set a time frame of the last few months or something, there is only a handful of actual results and most of them are talking about a specific application, but if you google "radeon freezing" its almost always the entire system being hardlocked by the drivers and its still ongoing. that should tell you all you need to know about the quality of their cards.
>>108112880I'm being facetious anyway because the actual number of failures is comically low
>>108112842If you buy an AM5 CPU right now, I would hold off on doing any fancy waterblocks or anything on it, because there's a pretty high chance you're gonna have to RMA it at some point, and nobody wants to be draining a loop and all that shit.
>>108112916fair enough. sarcasm in text form is hard to detect though. either way, anytime I want a good laugh I just browse this thread because the guy has too much of an ego to just swap out his 9070XT for something that actually works. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rx-9070-xt-freezing-locking-up-only-on-desktop-anyone-else.338622/
and i thought RADV was 50% faster than NVIDIA/pcbg/ has been lying to me all this timei'm gonna go out and buy a 5090 now so i can play minecraftthank you jensen
>>108112925
>>108112910>did you even bother to look at his screenshot? or the bug reports linked? its quite fucking evident what the issue is. You can't seriously think every single user who has a problem with Radeon cards is also overclocking everything to the tits and that's why it happens, thats retarded thinking.first, calm your ass down you sound like you're on drugs.I see java threads which are cpu related and has nothing to do with the gpu.please go on and elaborate the diagnosis of the PCIE slot.
>>108112939If you compare the 9070 xt to like the 5080 it isnt that it's faster per se but the raw raster/$ might be 50% higher. At the cost of everything else being worse.
>>108112939represent the 4%!
>>1081129579070XT and 5080 are actually pretty much on par as far as Price/Performance goes.
>>108112967I'm not interested in specific examples, the average difference on techpowerup is 20% and the price difference is by a very wide margin higher than 20%.
>>108112967>as far as Price/Performance goes.The AMD was always the better "value" card until RAMaggedon came along. OFC DLSS 4.5 also changed the equation a bit, if that sort of thing matters to you.
>>108112973Why would you look at a random selection of games rather than games you're actually gonna play?You're gonna buy a new GPU and play Batman Arkham Asylum at 1080p?Really?
>>108112951PCIE is basically ethernet, the device shits itself and drops communication resulting in the app or whole driver crashing so why do you keep deflecting with your retardation?
nice to see most of you are still being retarded on purpose and there are bots replying to mei don't feel like 4chan was this bad before we got hacked and most of the userbase left but maybe i just didn't pay enough attentionshitposting on X dot com might be a better idea>>1081129664% is pretty good desu
>>108112985i dont play cpan average amalgamate of many games is just a more useful data point to go off of for general gpu buying
>>108112860are you french anon? you seem to give up without even trying
>>108112993>PCIE is basically ethernetThat is the most stupid thing I've read so far today. Maybe even this week.>>108113003>don't feel like 4chan was this bad beforeYou must be new here.
>>108113023read up about PCIE signalling and how it works before you talk to me again retard.
>>108113023hes right.
>have buggy as shit r9 380>CTDs, freezes, entire system shutdowns>plenty of reseats, mutiple driver versions and two different windows installs didn't fix it>replace 380 with 1080 ti>no ddu, same windows, same psu, same everything>everything runs perfectly>radeon tards assert it's everything else and not their shitty siliconI cant take these people seriously.
>>108113031I've got more than three decades in the business of computers, anon.
>Only ever used AMD gpus>Never had any problems whatsoever
>>108113065>r9 380>1080 tiAncient history but sadly amd still has a lot of buggy driver releases and it seems to take them longer to fix stuff than nvidiot.
can't consoom hardware because poor have to just sit and wait and lookdouble punished by accidental waitfagging even more due to the current state of affairs tooone day we will reach gaymen nirvana
>>108113072and you still don't know that PCIE is basically a network just like switches and routers? sad. It operates on the exact same principle as packets and other datagram types. TX, RX, drop, collision and corrective actions like retransmits etc.
>>108113004No it isn't.You know for a fact if you buy a GPU made in the past 2 years, you can play a game from 10 years ago at an irrelevant frame rate.What you want to know is if you can play modern games well.
>>108113124ok, how many 10 year old games are in techpowerup's test suite?
>>108113111same here broi think our only options now will be steam machines, and if rumors were true and microsoft will also turn xbox into regular pcit fucking sucks to live without gaymen pc
>>108113166I have good news. electricity pressures will force a lot of pretty nice server gear onto the used market :^)))
Lexar NM620 2TB SSD for £165. Yay or nay?
>>108113180>server gearUseless to 99% of anons, there is always used commercial equipment on the market.
>>108113145Dunno, I have paid zero attention to random game groupings, I look at the games I want to play or am going to play and base my purchase on that.
Prices aren't going to get better any time soon are they? That and Nvidia is talking about not having any new GPU as far as 2028. Anons, I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and build my system.
Thoughts on using a rtx6000 for gaming?
If I had a Ryzen Threadripper Pro 9995WX and a RTX 5090 FE could I play Cyberpunk 2077 at native 4k max settings?
Got a good deal on 2x ddr5 5600 cl46 128gb ramIs it worth it or too slow
>>108113276if you have an X3D cpu, RAM speed doesn't matter much at all https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d-ddr5/2
So long since oblivion remaster came out and still unplayable on nvidia
>POV you got shilled into buying blackscreenwell by nvidia pc building general on /g/
Recently got a 32" LG Ultragear 1440p monitor and I'm honestly not a big fan of it, especially the curve. Any good recommendations for a decent 1440p monitor that won't cost over $200.
>>108113124Njeetia can't even play a bit older games like tomb raider without stuttering
ANONS THE NEW 5090 "LEAK" WAS FALSE NO NEW GPU FOR YOU LOLLLLL
Im new to pc gaming and wanna build something cheap that can do 1440p high to max settings, do not care about running max RT or pt anything like that. Can you guys give me a parts list?
The Nicojeet Canadian tranny is VERY mad about a single image that xe spams lmao
>>108113333Very dumb pic. Heat rises with rad. Front as intake. Rear as exhaust.
>>108113365I got you, no worries.Just copy paste all this into PC Part Picker. Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 FERyzen Threadripper Pro 9995WX MSI MEG Z890 GODLIKEWD_Black SN8100 4TB NVMeCORSAIR Vengeance RGB DDR5 RAM 128GBCooler Master HAF 700 EVONZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGBBe Quiet! Dark Power 13 1000W ATX 3.0 80 Plus
>>108113315Are any of the 27" Acer Nitro monitors any good? Deciding between the KG271U and the XV271U.
>>108112591YOOOOO I NEED THAT
>>108113343kek fooooooooools
>>108113337aorus is a shitty cooler. count the fan blades. you can also kinda see it has less heatpipes or they're not as thick.
>>108113333you will have shittiest imaginable thermals because physics + fucktons of dust. just do front intake and rear+top exhaust.
>>108113373Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.
can we talk about VA monitors? does any uses VA here? I made my VA have much better response times enabling overdrive and VBR (it's acer) but it locks my brightness at a level I don't even know, if I try to move the brightness scale it disables VBR, I've been trying ShaderBeam to add BFI to the monitor when playing locked 60 fps games, fighting games actually, but BFI makes the screen too dark, I need to be able to have VBR on and high brightness to get a very fast and very crisp image with ShaderBeam, can it even be done?
>>108113410It's a trollpost. Just move on.
>>108113343The new 5090 was the friends we made a long the way.
>>108113433You know what's shittier?An underclocked card.
I need a new SATA SSD as my system drive. What are the best options today feature wise? I certainly hope it's not just ramless QLC slop.I do not like M.2 SSDs, they are a pain to swap out and carry around.
>>108113460you act like no card can overclock. that prime could be a silicon lottery winner.
>>108113483>prime could be a silicon lottery winnerWelp, mine certainly isn't. Oh well.
>>108113483He's a shitposting troll. There is no such thing as an underclocked 9070 XT. Even the basic models are running the amd spec
>>108113493Neither is my Nitro but it at least doesnt coil whib3.
>>108112523Fractal Design Define 7
>>108113510just buy a monitor arm already and fuckoff.
>>108113523>buy Asus GPU with 0 RPM mode switch>blessed silence>mild ez-O/C with Afterburner>coil wheeeeeeeeinnnne>mfw
I'm trying to update my BIOS and I'm going insaneI've for an X870 motherboard and a Ryzen 7 9850X3D. The X870 isn't compatible with that CPU in the BIOS that comes with the systemI copied the CAP file from Asus' website to a Fat32 USB Stick, plugged it into the BIOS port on the motherboard, and when I boot with an HDMI port coming from the motherboard, nothing happens.And every single tutorial on this online just talks about it as if you already have a fully set up PC and are just deciding to update your BIOS for fun one day
>>108113483>>108113499Prime is a value line that has a lower core clock than other models.It's underclocked for less strict binning and thus cheaper production.
>>108113583im 83% sure you can just update bios from bios if you have internet now
>>108113586>lower core clockIt's the stock clock, anon.
When are SSD prices returning to normal? It shouldn't be as bad as the RAM shortage, right?
>>108113593I'm writing on my other PC, the one I'm trying to update is on a PC I'm building. Since the CPU is incompatible with the BIOS currently on the hardware, the new PC doesn't output any video signal at all, so there's no way to tell what, if anything, is wrong
>>108113597Literally everyone who responds to you is just going to doompost about the WEF and ze bugs, no one has any idea just like every other time this happened
>>108113583>>108113593Can't POST into BIOS without a compatible CPU. Can't make CPU compatible without POST into BIOS.>Anon is hosed.
anyone encountered shitty fans on 50xx MSI cards? I avoiding that brand for my 5080 for this reason and bought overpriced TUF instead
>>108112513This is why you always wait till the end to put in everything and don't touch your pc later. Ddr3 was very forgiving with everything you do but starting from ddr4 and ddr5 every single smallest modification makes your pc shit the bed. Memory retraining, mobo refusing to boot up without the exact gpu..
>>108113596Yeah, it has less strict binning so underperforming cards can make the cut.It means there's less wastage as cards that can't do a decent clock are allowed to meet specification and the whole line is just underclocked as a consequence.
>>108113611then he should buy a cpu and return it
>>108113611Then why would Micro Center sell this as a bundle
>>108113597>>108113608>>108112420>Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.
>>108113621To get money from anons. Try opening a support ticket.
>>108113619Thats all bullshit. You're just as bad as the nicotroon spouting horseshit like that.
>>108113668Yes anon, I'm sure Prime is just cheaper and clocked lower purely for no reason what so ever. :)
>>108113619binning is bullshit anon. even people were unlocking amd cores on phenom era.
>>108113702its a sff model. they are always cheaper than fat 3.5-4 slots.
>>108113702>clocked lowerNothing you say changes the fact that they are the stock advertised clock speeds.>>108113710Binning/testing is real across all semiconductor production processes.
>>108113622>until I can get a 9070 XT because I hear the Radeon drivers are rock solid now.lol, lmao even. on a serious note go download adn run DDU in safemode, nuke ur drivers totally and then do the clean install option
Update on the X870, I'm now realizing it isn't even showing status lights. Wtf is going onIt's getting powers, the fans are blowing
>>108113710>binning is bullshit binning is 100% real.
>>108113733memory training, unless you fucked up something.
>>108113723Yeah, that clock is lower than other cards.Thus it's underclocked.
>>108113733what shitsus motherboard do u have? does it have the ez flash button + port on it? cus u can flash the bios on those without a CPU installed
>>108113728Bro you're replying to an obvious nicotroon post, c'mon
>>108113744Totally forgot about memory training. I'll try just leaving it on>>108113757X870-P, I regret not doing that
Anything I should know about the MSI B850 Tomahawk? Looks pretty good for the price in my region.
>>108113776picrel, read your motherboard manual for how to use this, if I recall in the bios download of all asus bios there is a "bios renamer" binary file, run that and it'll name the right right. put that file in the roof of the thumbdrive and follow whatever steps t hey require (usually just holding down that flashback button for 30 seconds or some shit)
>>108113809I've been doing that, but there's no status lights whatsoever so I have no reason to believe it's doing anything besides powering my CPU fan
>>108113776just downloaded the BIOS for u to see, call the bios file A5564.CAP , place it in the fat32 formatted drive , in that specific port as shown in >>108113809 and hold down the button til it does some shit with the lights there.
>>108113838I appreciate the effort, but no lights are coming on anywhere, I'm on with Micro Center support now
>>108113831>>108113853
>>108113861Anon I love you more than life itself but this hasn't been workingI don't have the flashing lights that it tells me to expect coming on
>>108113874think ur meant to do it while the system is powered off.
>>108113614My Inspire 5070Ti has been solid so far, the fans don’t run unless running a game or CAD though.
Seems like a decent deal.
>>108113966hell yeah this is the deal. cpu+ram+kb&m+goty.
>>108113966does amd give these retailers extremely cheap cpus to bundle them with ram or something?
>>108114021neweggs ceo got arrested not too long ago and this is his bailout fund sale.
casual reminder that theres no such thing as "nicofag"thread was doing just fine before this >>108112190>someone says amd is shit>no nvidia a shit>no no troon troon troon image spam aaaaaand then you get this thread as a result, plus he cant handle anime on a anime website
>bought PSU and Mobo from amazon resale at like 40% discounts>kind of want to check they work>plug mobo to psu>turn on>motherboard leds turn ongood enough for me
>>108114104wrong image fuck i'm getting fedded
so you needed (((ai))) to make austrian porn?
>>108114104>>108114106lol
wow he was jewish after all.
>>108114161makes sense they're genetically prone to schizophrenia and other mental illnesses
>>108113966that ram should only cost $80
>>108114045It's nicotroon
>big chonky atx tower>cut 8cm wide circle into side of case>insert onahole>put thick blanket over it>mount it Doggystyle>watch tranime>feel the hot fan air blow on my junk>ffwd 9 months>mini itx baby gets delivered by crane>gotta go to work cus I have wires to feed
>>108114228this can be an entire 15 minute aqua teen hunger force episode.episode title: Super Ti
>>108114173you missed.
