>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 9950X3D*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*<16 gb constrained even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>108115988
This one is updooted with RAM, SSD, GPU price tracking links..Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies. A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!>News & RumorsThe Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM pricesMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync Pulsar is being argued aboutARC B390 iGPU has some anons excitedPrices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.>RAM price trackinghttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities>SSD Price Trackinghttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd>GPU Price tracking:https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.
5070 is the best value graphics card currently5060 Ti 16 GB and 5070 Ti are both lower value when considering street price vs performance.You'll be optimizing settings with any card, but you can hit any resolution with DLSS on a 5070.(pic related does not have FSR 4, so the 9070 is essentially useless unless you resort to modding)5070 costs about 15% over MSRP, which is also the case even for lower cards like the 5060. The bigger problem for new builders is the cost of DDR5, but if you have a half decent DDR4 system with an R5 5600 or i5 12400 or something similar, the 5070 is a reasonable upgrade from a weaker card like a 4060, 3070, or 2080 Ti.Sadly, unless you are in the market for a Blackwell Pro, the current crop of consumer cards are fairly useless for local models, at least compared to what you can do with an API key from Anthropic or Google. The context window is too small even on a 32 GB 5090 to be particularly useful (gooners be gone) without an extremely robust short term and long term persistent memory system, but even then the available context window is heavily limiting. (64K tokens is nothing against the 1,000K token context window of Gemini 3 Pro.)
>>108121697whats teh site
>>108121717GameGPU
>>108121727can't access it, shitty tranny website
>>108121697Using the list from the second sticky sort of bears this out but really only if DLSS matters to you.GeForce RTX 5070 Ti $913Radeon RX 9070 XT $729GeForce RTX 5070 $619Radeon RX 9070 $629GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB $539
Has anyone here used both ~20L and ~40L cases? I'm wondering if there's that much of a difference in size in real life. Jonsbo D32 PRO vs Antec FLUX M.
>>108121297Blessed bake.Reposting from last thread since it's almost archived :>>108121008 #based anon thanks can I also use this pbo info on my 9800x3d?I'm going to go from my 9800x3d if the mythical 9950x3d2 ever comes outYeah I'll take a 400 dollar hit but whatever>>108121029 #Thank you for the tldr version I will look up data nextVery helpful when I start looking at 5400 drives other than WD black so I can not pay thru the noseAnyone wanna weigh in on Toshiba? I've bought WD my entire life...
>>108121841>Blessed bake.We aim to please.>can I also use this pbo info on my 9800x3dAim for something like -25 all core, +200Fmax, MOBO Limits, 10x scalar and test with OCCT, Y-Cruncher, P95, etc..>if the mythical 9950x3d2goddamn it I was going to /waitfag/ for this but ended up buying a 9950X3D during my panic buy in December>ToshibaPreddy good, different lines have different warranties.
Reposting...>>108121841>I'm going to go from my 9800x3d if the mythical 9950x3d2 ever comes outI'm starting to believe more and more that the 9950x3d2 was all a baseless rumour, if you think about it that hypothetical CPU would be even more of a niche than the 9950x3d>games wouldn't benefit from it due to cross CCD communication>very few applications are capable of properly utilizing 16 cores given the CCD complexity while benefitting from the extra cacheJust get the 9950X3D if you need the extra cores or wait for Zen 6 next year for a proper 12 core single CCD.>>108121918>goddamn it I was going to /waitfag/ for this but ended up buying a 9950X3D during my panic buy in DecemberAt best you don't have to deal with core affinity.
Remember AMD is only cheap when Intel curbstomps them to near bankruptcy. If you're an AMD fan you'd want Intel to be on top like when $180 Conroe made a $1k in 2006 dollars A64X2 obsolete overnight.
>>108121960it is always the fault of the other side when one overcharges.
>>108121934>very few applications are capable of properly utilizing 16 cores given the CCD complexity while benefitting from the extra cacheEhhh.. Windows and Linux both love cores, the more you have the better the underlying OS runs. If you work with VMs having more than 8 cores can make a big difference in performance. And on-die multi CCD is still faster than old school multi CPU setups using QPI, right?
>>108121841I've got a Toshiba, used it in an enclosure and it died due to overheating. Have good airflow, regardless of the brand.I noticed smart errors appearing then checked hwinfo, 50C+ at all times. Too late to save by then.
>>108121781Yeah it's a "don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again" situation.
>>108121960Explain why the 9060xt is not $200 right now.
>>108121960I hope intel fights back with nova lake but I have no hope they'll do anything right, my horizon of upgrading the pc is 2030 after the AI fad runs out and we'll be getting 1.4nm cpus and gpus so zen 7 and whatever comes after nova lakeI'm on zen 3 and rdna4 right, it's been amazing, next upgrade I'll go for full amd again or full intel provided intel keeps improving their gpus, I'm just not gonna go for nvidia because I'll be fully committed to linux at that point so it has to be full amd or full intel
>>108122075Never was close to that.>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking
>>108122122I got my 9070 xt during black friday at msrp, great deal
>>108122122What I mean is when AMD gets stomped, they price their shit low, which is not the case for GPU.
>>108122144>>108121309>Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.
>>108122170I was refuting >>108121960Perhaps he's right. When Intel starts curbstomping AMD in GPU the price drops can get spectacular.
Why is Mint not recognizing my 5080?I have the Nvidia drivers from Driver Manager
https://videocardz.com/newz/mesa-26-0-open-source-graphics-library-for-linux-releases-significant-imporvmenets-to-raytraicng-on-radeon-gpus
>>108122303lol I'm retarded I had it in secure boot
>>108122326oooo and a new kernel in the works, happy news for the Linux /troons/
>>108121697Local models are too demanding for the majority of people, which is why running Q4 and Q2 is so common. This probably won't change anytime soon with how gouged vram is unless you don't mind putting down a car's worth of money on GPUs. I think when people mention "AI" they're generally referring to image models, since they're comparitively less taxing to run and can easily fit in 16/12gb of vram. This is one of the places the 5060ti actually makes sense, since if you don't really care about raster, you get a healthy amount of vram for a relatively low cost. It's also faster than an old 2080 or 3090 thanks to fp4. For people who just want to play games? The 5070 is the easy choice. The price is practically identical to the 5060ti and it's significantly beefier.
