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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!>News & RumorsNEW 5K27 MONITOR REVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tg1aVeKakEThe Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM pricesMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing & Ampere GPUs, issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync Pulsar is being reviewedARC B390 iGPU has some anons excitedPrices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.>Price trackingRAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacitiesSSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssdGPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oj6YUfWCQM>Spends the entire video whiningI got it the first ten times you whined, no need to whine 100+ times. Why review it in the first place if you're gonna be so salty about it's existence?
>>108130217Well, yes but he's not wrong.
>>108130217He's such a faggot
Based blessed OP
Can my asrock X870 board even boot with this kit? Will the seller try to pull a fast one with "MOQ: 1" and say it's 1 pallet and not 1 kit?
>>108130289Baked just for (you), anon. Hope you are having a great day.
Had a friend ask for my old PC parts for a budget gaming build. All I've got left is a R1 1600x and some DDR4 RAM.I know prices are utterly fucked for the foreseeable future, but is there even any point making a build with those parts, or will modern budget parts outclass them despite the cost?
>>108130305May a bunners also bless your day
>>108130322>will modern budget parts outclass them despite the costYes but - having a compooter is better than not having a compooter.>nice that you are helping a fren
did nvidia ever stabilize their drivers? is it safe to update yet?I have a 4070.
>>108130217>GPU draws more power than my EVlol.
>>108130419566.36 is still the go to if you have any issues
Any of these boxes worth keeping: CPU, Mobo, PSU, GPU, CPU Cooler. I don’t think I’d ever sell my PC. At least not for a long time.I think at minimum I should keep the GPU box and everything else can get tossed?
>>108130297what the fuck is this color scheme
>>108130472I keep all my boxes for a couple of months at least.
>>108130472I put all the boxes into one box and hold onto them.all the small boxes go into the motherboard box, and then all the larger boxes go into the case box, and the case box goes into storage.
>>108130472cpu plastic tray is a mustgpu and mobo at least keep the esd bags, these are not cheap
>>108130525and the mobo socket cover
>>108130472GPU box probably because it has the most potential for re-sale/upgrades.
>>108130217>No actual GPU title in the video title>No actual GPU title in the video descriptionWhy do YouTubers do this? Do they think they'll get more views by providing viewers with less information?
>>108130472you wasted a lot of money on these luxury items with a lot of resale value. Keep them all. Surely you don't live in a bughive in a shoe box that you can stack all of this Matrioshka style?
>>108130419>he's not using DLSS 4.5 ngmi
>>108130562I just play Deadlock and they've started harassing me about my outdated drivers since the major update a few weeks ago.
>>108130472Mobo box is useful for keeping various PC stuff you have laying around, like screws, wires, manuals, PCIe slot covers, stuff like that.GPU box obviously you should keep because you always should unplug your GPU when moving your PC.Other depends if they're on a warranty or not.
>>108130590>box is useful for keeping various PC stuff you have laying aroundNot having a shed full of PC parts organized in ESD safe containers
>>108130558the new "vague posting" as normies call it to piss people off and basically normies first eureka at knowing what "bait posting" as 4channers knew for decades to get (you)s [attention] and agitate people so they enable/[reply more]
>>108130559>wastedI wouldnt call it a waste>luxuryI wouldnt call them luxurious
>Muh 5K monitor!
>>108130696I just want Pulsar but open source edition.
>Xer monitor has less than 5 K's
Somebody explain this shit.First it was RAM, now it's all storage.What's next?
>>108130834>>108130154>Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.
>>108130834RAM and SSD use the same silicon.next is the crash. OpenAI will go bankrupt by the end of next year.
>>108130834glass bottles
more good news for the linux /troons/ today
>>108130952
>>108130834Next - home computers will become as rare as in 70s. You will use smartphone/tablet/chromebook and will be happy about it. Your computer will be "in the cloud" at 99,99$/month till end of your life.There will be no crash. Money is pumped by corps and governments with infinite money printers because they have a "cyber world war" for muh sovereignty and muh super intelligence. Nobody gives a single fuck about coomsoomers.And shit scales exponentially - the more there will be manufactured, the more corps and governments will buy. There will be no magical moment when there will be suddenly dedicated factories just for regular people. This might be the last decade when you still have a possibility of owning a powerful home computer with plenty of storage. Anyone in denial is fucking delusional. And no - nobody cares about port slop generation. Those compute resources are not purchased to create products for coomsoomers - they are brought to fight for the world dominance with "best ai" which will fuck other countries and corporations.
>>108130976Yeah, reminder that consumer hardware has always been nickles and dimes compared to data center. The future is bloomberg terminals.
>>108130976>home computers will become as rare as in 70skek, there will be vast piles of minipcs in the landfills for years to come as the normies discard them.>There will always be /pcbg/, we just don't know what the /pc/ will evolve into.
>>108131009>>108130976With AI and data centersTron will become a realityThe data centers will be the GRID/mainframeI FIGHT FOR THE USERS!
5K/1440P Dual mode 27" I'm unironically not seeing a downside
>>108130976there will be a crash but it won't benefit the public at all.stocks will crash with OpenAI. tons of smaller companies will go out of business too. and Gemini/Grok will scoop up all of ChatGPT's assets at a discounted price.reminder that none of these business parts can be repurposed for the general consumer, and none of the shortages at the moment are being driven by the consumer side of sales. this is nothing like the mining era.
>>108131132Yup.They skipped the consumer altogether and started manufacturing asics immediately. They'll never stop manufacturing or buying asics They'll only crash the economy and scoop up everybody else's money through government bailouts to pay for more.
>>108131132>>108131166Larping armchair prognosticators with no actual vision of how it all came to be.>(you) have no control over the unstoppable march of progress in technology
>>108131200I don't know what point you're trying to make or why you're trying to act like you have any grasp of the situation. every time there is an industrial revolution or industrial boom, it's followed by a crash, and the few companies that are left over scoop up all the assets.you don't even need to go that far back into history to understand why google is the king today.
>>108131200>grasp of the situationBeen a tech worker for decades. What I grasp is that you should start a new thread in /g/ to discuss AI and it's impacts, link it here and I will pop in. I don't wanna trash this thread with the ranting (including my own) that happens in those discussions.>This is /pcbg/ after all. We're here to discuss the latest in boob-jiggling simulation enabling hardware that you can buy for private fapping at home.
>>108131289Fair enough.
Best computer for a thrill killer?
>>108131338Go troll somewhere else
NVIDIA YOU BASTARDSLOWER THE PRICE OF THE 5090 YOU BASTARDS
>>108130442Muh PhysX
>>108131538>PhysXkek those faggots are trying to kill it off
>bought CPU on Amazon yesterday, arrived today, didn't open it yet, waiting other parts to arrive>see listing on Amazon of same CPU out of curiosity>75 USD cheaper>bought it again and returned the one I got today for freeHell yeah saved 75 USD.
>>108131657You could've just spoken to Amazon customer service and they would price match it for you.
>>108131691Not sure if they do that in my country, so instead of waiting and risking losing the price difference, I decided to just return it.
>>108131708Fair enough, I recall when I bought my 8700k I somehow bought it like $50 cheaper than it was a month later
Thoughts on these two monitors? They're both cheap on clapistani amazon right now, thinking of picking one up.https://a.co/d/05vrR7jThttps://a.co/d/0imAfcSp
>>108131708Amazon don't care about country. Customer service is manager through a few centralised places and majority of workload is distributed to jeets. And for Amazon to return the price difference to you is both cheaper and easier that fucking with the returned item + giving you full refund at same time.
>>108131338Definitely x3d, since you can't have a computer in prison anyway.
is there going to be any new GPUs or what?wondering if I should just buy an RX 9070 XT
Whats a good low profile GPU, very low power (pure PCIE lane powered) that I can fit into a Dell prebuilt Optiplex 5060? It has a i5 8500 and I'm guessing a 130W PSU -- hard to tell through Google until I boot it upGot it free from work want to make it HTPC
>>108131805idk. what does rtings.com say? that's basically the most independent reviewing you'll get.
>>108131900It was already done anon, it is what it is. I'll keep what you said in mind though.
>>108130150I've always wondered, why no suggestion for motherboards?
>>108132102They don't seem to have any reviews on them.
>>108131805I wouldn't take any of those because for me screen is too small. I switched to 32" since quite some time and now cannot even look at those inchlet monitors - they're like toys.
>>108132101Idk. Look at the rtx sff cards. I think the rtx 4000 blackwell sff just got released or is soon to be released. Those run off the pcie slot.
>>108132244I don't have the desk space, but I appreciate it. 24 inches is all I can make work currently.
It's hilarious to see this thread basically die because everyone has to downgrade their expectations so much that just keeping their old system is the best choice for now.
I swear to god, if I knew these existed sooner and that they'd be compatible with my GPU heatsink this whole time...
>>108132282You can cope through this component shortage if you built a decent PC during 2023-25 (obviously pre-shit show '25).And there's no new PC hardware to talk about.
>>108132250Thanks, will do and report back once I boot and wipe it at home and install Win10 fresh
>>108132096>is there going to be any new GPUs or what?There's no point of releasing new GPUs when video card manufacturers are having trouble getting VRAM supplies.Buy the 9070 XT if your current video card isn't good enough to potentially last another 4~5 years.Next generation video cards are going to be expensive, and rumors are saying their release dates are pushed back to 2028.Expect to pay at least $1000 for a 6070 Ti, don't be surprised to see them sell for $1200.You have plenty of time to save up for next generation video cards if you can hold out until 2028, but prepare for the worst.If you want an RTX 6080, assume it will cost you $2,000 and save up to double that amount.I'm not telling you to spend $4,000 on a video card, but you may see some insane prices like that in the future.
>>108132282I am trying to make a build for some leftover components from ten years ago. I've got half the parts and I'm still paying more then when these were new. If I sold my GPU now I would have outperformed the S&P500. Shit's ridiculous.
>>108130510Literally in my basement just as you said, right now.
>>108130558>Gpu in the title>Gpu in the descriptionI get wanting to hate something but at least do it right. The person you responded to did it correctly.
>>108132540>Buy a GPU without DLSS to last 4-5 years.Lmao
>>108131511I feel like at this point it’s almost exclusively scalpers
>>108132631If he's considering the 9070 XT, he's already thought about the DLSS thing.People who want DLSS obviously don't buy a Radeon card.
>>108132631DLSS won't save you when you're still on sub-3090 performance or stuck with less than 16GB of VRAM
>>108132096>I should just buy anYou should. Nothing interesting in the near future.>>108132101A used low-ram Quadro card 2-3 years old should be a good fit for your free hardware. Normally cheap on the used market because they are not optimized for /gayming/, you have to run the Quadro drivers for them but they last forever. Would not waste much money on that freebie, anon.>>108132351>and install Win10 fresh>inb4 linux, would run nicely on that.>>108132163OP here. IDK. Probably because the market is saturated with the damn things and no consensus is reached, plus character limits.>>108132282>>108130154>Price trackingPanic bought in December and sheeeit prices suck so much more now. Anons are fucked. Pic very related.>>108132618>wanting to hate something but >>108130154>No
>>108132649>>wanting to hate something but >>108130154 (You)>>No
>>108132282I built a fully new pc in mid January using micro center bundles, discounts, price matching, and price protection to squeeze out as much price to performance as I could with the parts I was choosing. Looking at historical prices I was only a combined $200 over the all time lows for the 32gb ddr5 ram kit and 2tb gen5 SSD I ended up with (GPU was msrp). The only real concession, however, was that the ram was part of a bundle, so there was no way I was going to be able to get 64 gb like I wanted and stay within my budget. But I probably didn’t need it in the end anyway. Prices have gone up since then, of course.
>>108132282>Panicked and bought a bunch of shit for a new pc last month.>Still managed to make it out slightly ok since I bought a new gpu and nvme before they exploded in priceI can only hope that nothing shits itself until prices come back down to a reasonable level.
>>108131691>they would price match it for you.That's a lie, I've had customer service reps tell me to just return it instead of giving me the difference.
>>108132730>customer serviceI've had their return center swipe my returned RAM. Had to make a voice call to get that shit fixed.
R8 my poverty ship of theseus upgrade:Upgraded:CPU>I5 12600kMobo>Asus prime Z690 p wifi d4Ram>32gb (8x4) some kind of team force rgb ddr4GPU>TUF OC rx6900xtCPU cooler>phantom spirit seNot upgraded:Case >Fractal design r5SSD>Samsung 1tb 2.5"sata drive of some kindPSU>Seasonic prime gold 640w modular
so what is the verdict on the 9070xt?
>get told Nvidia are Nazis that don't let AIBs have any fun or do any mods >1000W 5090
>>108132631it's not like we'll see any real progress in the next two years
what's a good sensor panel to get? I want one for my desk
It's in the OP as a 4k option.Question for the AMDanons, would the upcoming Steam box be able to support the 9070 XT?>buy and /mod/ one>>108132772>>GPU>Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt>-Used: 2080, 2080ti>*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p>Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070>-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)>4k : 5070ti, 9070xt>-Native/High-end: 5090
>>108132772Good at the original MSRP.Dogshit at anything over $600.
>>108132649I don't understand. Isn't Nvidia not that swell on Linux?Why would I use Linux on a HTPC when I can just pirate windows, plug n play a wireless HTPC keyboard mouse, plus NPC+ use my direct download account where I download any movie and TV show I want off mega? Yeah it's a private forum from registering years ago
>>108132827>would the upcoming Steam box be able to support the 9070 XT?The Steam Machine won't have the PCIe slot for a video card.You'll need an external video card adapter & power supply, but I don't know how they'll run on Linux and say goodbye to your cost savings.
>>108132839>swell>just piratewat? Old Quadros and Linux always just /work/ for stable HTPC. Or your skills are poor, IDK. Use whatever your need to get your /pcbg/ on.
>>108132823Do you want to run an HDMI to it?
>>108132839>Isn't Nvidia not that swell on Linux?That's somewhat outdated, it works fine now. Just don't combine a slow-paced distro with new hardware.>Why would I use Linux on a HTPC when I can just pirate windowsBecause Windows 11 sucks balls and breaks every week in ever more bizarre ways(this week, Notepad had an Remote Code Execution). Win10 meanwhile is EoL and starting to get dropped by some software you might need, i.e. Slack.At the same time, Linux keeps getting so that eventually the sides will flip, and have already for some. Not that it really matters if your use case is just watching TV.
>>108130489I think that color scheme is called "not gonna complain when it's 32 GB for $220".>>108130297Even if it's a whole pallet you can probably resell it domestically for a half decent profit.
>>108132919>Not that it really matters if your use case is just watching TV.Yeah. That's why it's an old SFF Optiplex with i5 8500Powerful enough for decode just need something to do help even the load with 1080p/4K HEVC or X264 files I download. I got a normal PC and even a spare 14400 I got from work but it's a full desktop... Which honestly I could use as the HTPC too but it's twice the size. I just need to replace the 90mm fan as it squeaks with a nice little NF-9A FLX, just need to remeasure to make sure the holes line up on the HP.That's why I asked about low power pcie only powered low profile GPUs.Also, I may hold a raffle here, the old spare HP had a sister that was damaged but still has a nice 1TB Micron TLC drive with only 300gb written on it - though I should just buy a USB enclosure I guess and use it as a cool mini off-site backup for my bank vault.
>>108130150What evidence is there that Nvidia is even planning on releasing a series of 6000 cards this year?
>>108132562>>108132314My disposition is "you can keep it" and I'll do something else. That's what I did during Covid. Instead of buying computer stuff, I bought camera stuff.
>>108132922>32 GB for $220sad violin
>>108132990Absolutely none, late 2027 at the earliest
>>108132772Not worth it against Nvidia cards unless you don't value your time
>>108132648It does and it will, until PS8 exclusive games start hitting the market.
>>108132990>What evidence is there that Nvidia is even planning on releasingOP has none.>>108133000late 2027 at the earliestwouldn't even try to pin a date on it right now.
>>108132990rtx pro 6000 is already out if you can afford oneif your talking about the 6090 then those are probably coming in 2028
>>108133129>if you can afford one
>>108133149that's a steal compared to a single h200 accelerator
>>108132827Bought an original Xbox and was damn pleased with it. Bought a Xbox 360 and it was fun until it RRoD on me. Then I never bought a Xbox console ever. Fool me once, not twice.Still your image is stupid. Console just waerks because it's plug and play and when something like a RRoD happens there's nothing you can do. As opposed to PC where spending time tweaking and investigating is the norm.
>>108133194>tweaking and investigating is the norm.Oh hell no. Build it, tune it, and use it. Twiddling around with a /system/ because there is nothing else to do is more autistic than building it the right way in the first place.>unless you do the dress up fishtank thing, thats OK too.
Are there any ITX or MATX AM5 motherboards that don't suck or hugely compromise in some way?>ASRock boards fry X3D CPUs>ASUS's PCIe x16 slot quick-release mechanism scratches the contacts on your GPUX3D is a must because of the memory price gouging, and any GPU will cost (ie. is worth more and to be prioritised above the motherboard), so that's all ASRock and ASUS boards out of the running immediately.From there, trying to find something among what few MSI/Gigabyte/Sapphire(?) options remain- that offers at least a Gen 5 GPU socket + two M.2 slots connected to the CPU and ISN'T FUCKING WHITE FOR SOME REASON feels impossible. And heaven help me if I want to find something other than a 2.5/5Gbit Realtek LAN.I'd happily but this if it were actually available for sale anywhere:https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/caram5-m
So now that the C intel gpus are dead I am gonna pull the trigger on the B580.People say that "enjoy troubleshooting" but is it that bad with older titles or is it just "one in 50 games will crash" but the tech support will fix it quick anyways?
>>108133387>ASUS's PCIe x16 slot quick-release mechanism scratches the contacts on your GPUOh my fug I never heard about this, I mean I'm never planning on on removal but I wonder when they actually fixed this like they claimed and if my mobo was new enough...
>>108133432The fix is that they undid the entirely q-release slim idea on their just released neo boards and went back to the old button mechanism
>>108133432They're just now releasing a refresh of all their motherboards (the "NEO" lineup) which, among other things, includes a redesigned quick-release slot, so I assume the scratching issue impacts pretty much everything ASUS has on the market using the existing mechanism.
Looks like the UK was totally cut off.
>>108133472cut off from what faggot?
kek nothing new coming at all, huh?
>>108133512The question is only>does Intel go ahead and ship a high vram card and just raise the price barely covering itor>does Intel just scrap the cardI don't think there's time to do a redesign for a new vram amount.
>>108133471>>108133457Well fuck, I knew it seemed off when I got my mobo,now I guess I know why.
>>108133612>I don't think there's time to do a redesign for a new vram amount.Agree. Certainly not enough time for a VRAM reducation and the concurrent driver support.>>108133736Mine works as advertised. Maybe your /pcbg/ just sucks, buy a prebuilt next time.
My friend upgraded and is offering me his used RTX 2060 6gb for $80, which is something like half the price of the cheapest used one that I found in my country. Right now I have a pretty old budget setup with a Ryzen 2600 and RX 570 4gb. Is it good enough to get a somewhat decent fps boost for now or should I look for something better in the ~$150 range?I'm planning to upgrade most of my components anyway in 6 months or so, but that's still far away and for now my budget is tight.
>>108133794I would say get a used 4060 or dont bother$80 for that its worth more like $40
>>108132096unlikely because everyone is busy with AI scam.As long as US government and China are in this business trying to "race" each other there will be huge sums pumped into AI cards and manufacturers can not miss the opportunity to get megarich.
>>108133863>into AI cardsThey don't call the datacenter stuff "cards" anon. All of /pcbg/ is bitching about the cards they aren't making, none of /pcbg/ is building datacenters.
DDR5 ram isn't exclusive to intel or amd? I got some DDR5 ram on my intel build. I am switching to AM5 so my ram is compatible, right?
>>108133895The answer is always maybe. Good luck!
>>108133794Sure? A 1660 can still handle some things today with a hefty amount of low settings. Something that can benefit from DLSS can hold you over for a while.
>>108133895You should boot with either on JEDEC specs.
>>108132997Yes, anon. You can get it for less if you settle for less than 6400 MHz.
>>108133794The 2060 will let you play a lot more games
>>108130150NZXT didn't think to hide that garbage on the back side of the fans?
>>108133776>your /pcbg/ just sucksA bot wrote this
>>108133895Ddr5 is ddr5Whatever gets marketed as amd ram or intel ram is only true when you're talking about the validated xmp/expo speedsI ran my intel 7200mhz cl34 kit at 6200cl28 on a 7800x3d for over a year with no problems
>>108133859>>108133916Any reason I shouid be looking for NVIDIA cards over AMD for 1080p gaming? Just an honest question, never got the hype for framegen and all that.RX 6700 XT and RTX 4060 are about the same price here for example.>>108133954It's more about performance, I don't mind playing on medium-low settings, it's just that some of the newer games don't reach 60 fps even with that.
I want to move out of my 9900k. I have 64GB of CL16, 3200MHz DDR4 RAM. I'm thinking of getting a 14900k and a B760 DDR4 motherboard with decent VRM like the MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 or the Gigabyte B760 Gaming X DDR4. Thoughts?The 14900 non K is more expensive locally. Z790 DDR4 motherboards seem to be extinct.
>>108134039>nvidia over amdtheyre both graphics cards, I believe that RTX ray tracing in its real form is exclusive to NVIDIA cards, I don't know if DLSS is nvidia exclusive or not.you have a budget, or rather, you've said its 1080p gaming that you're looking for, you need to look at what game you actually want to play, for me it would be resident evil 9, maybe battlefield 6, as a goal, to play on max settings at 1440p, maybe 4k I haven't really looked that far yet.
>>108134078Why go Intel when you can go AMD AM4?
>>108134115NTA but 5800X3D is like $500 and it's not THAT good.
>>108134115>why eat shit when you can drink piss
>>108134124Wow I was out of the loop on how fucking much the old shit skyrocketedDamn
>>108134124yeah it doesnt help that 5800x3d runs hot as fuck because of its high stock voltage and bad thermal solution
Does anyone know where (if) I can still get a full waterblock for my INNO3D 4080S X3 (non OC)? The only thing I can find is this thing https://www.corsair.com/de/de/p/custom-liquid-cooling/cx-9025001-ww/icue-link-xg3-rgb-hybrid-gpu-water-block-4090-4080-cx-9025001-wwwhich looks kinda weird desu.
>>108134198>WasserkühlerGerman is the funniest language
Which one is the better gaming experience? Before any Framegen>1080p Ultra Raytracing 144 fps>1440p High 60-100 fps>4k Medium 20-60fpsTrying to figure out what resolution/monitor you should play at
>>108134216It is, but in this case it is just a 1:1 translation of water cooler.
>>108134220i pick 3440x1440 high at 50-90fps
We may be about to see Intel actually take back the crown.
>>108134257cpu design takes decades. so when one company makes a leap the other has now has the job to catchup and success. that's why intel cpus after ryzen launched were so mid and didn't scale well.
>>108134257i'm all for that as an am5 fagit'd make zen6 x3d a lot cheaper if its even 1% slower than nova lake bllc in games
>>108134257i wish i bought intel stock when it was like $16 last yearbut i had no savingsi still don'tbut that shits like $46 now
>>108130154> 27" 5kWhat the stupid fuck! The superfluous is the enemy of the necessary!
>>108134287muh stogggsmargrtttfff fAAARTgo to a monkey site or whatever.
>>108131029The downside is 27" being too small even for 4k.
>>108131029a 5090 cant even run wukong max 4k50 lolwho the fuck is 5k for
>>108134449Dlss 4.5 ultra performance preset m upscaled from 720p says hi
>>108134449Also, if you are sensitive to colors, then imo nvidia isn't that great (for gaming / 3D). obviously nvidia dominates in ai.
>>108133387> ASRock boards fry X3D CPUsThat's just a meme. That's like saying SUVs kill pedestrians.
>>108134449> who the fuck is 5k forFor gay image editing autists with Apple Macs.
>>108133863Just some numbers>companies are planning at least $3 trillion in global data center investments over the next five years (through 2030) - global risk assessment firm Moody
>>108134472>Gainwart
What's a good program to save the temperature of your PC components over time as graphs? I already have HWinfo installed but I don't see a way to save the graphs it can display as imagesAlso, what are some decent benchmarking tools that will also save/display average temperatures across the test?
Best computer for ai chefs?
>>108134820going outside slop maker
>>108134824What a great idea, gather some raw flesh for the lora machine.
>AM4>32 GB ram>5600x>RTX 3060Ti>Dual monitor 1440pWorth to upgrade for a 5070Ti?Mostly play singleplayer games, emulate, Multi slop (League, Valorant, Fortnite, MHWilds, FGC...).Also some Ai with comfyui. The jump would be 8GB Vram to 16GB Vram.
>>108134883yeah that's fine
>>108134883>own a gpu for 5 years>gpu prices at all time high : time to upgrade now eh???
>>108134920>>108134923I got worried when I thought about gen 6000 possible prices.I read a lot of posts and some say it's a good combo, others mention bottleneck. My bad, back to meditation and waiting room.
I regret being cheap and buying a 9070XT that will be eol in 2027 instead of a 5070 Ti that's gonna receive new features over 6 years. All this to save 150 euros
>>108134984rtx6000 is 2 years outits best you eat the cost for a 5070ti now and have a comfy gaymen experience for 2+ years by the time rtx6000 hits the market (and stay out of stock)
Thinking about picking up a new monitor, I'm not interested in oled. Anyone try out the TCL minileds? R84 and R94 are the same price but I'm leaning towards the 27" for pixel density.
>>108135000cant you just scam someone by selling your 9070xt to them and get a 5070ti with the earnings (+extra)?
>>108135000Try to cope by installing linux and pretend you did it to leave microsoft behind.
There have been no AAA releases, and you know the companies can't invent anymore, so there will be no new games.It's the end of gaming, because whiteness is creativity.
>>108135018I've considered it but sadly the stock and price gap between the 2 made this pointless. In a good scenario I might manage to sell my 9070XT for 90% to 100% of the price I bought it, but then I'm looking for anywhere between 300 to 400 euros more to get a 5070TI, IF I manage to find stock somewhere. Because right now all 5070 TI have reached 1k price tag and are out of stock. From time to time some websites get a restock and a more realistic price, but waiting for that would be more a gamble than anything and I'm not exactly rolling on money here.
>>108135025kek I'm literally installing Fedora as I'm typing this
>>108134883sure why not, bottleneck is a meme and only applies to old and/or very weak mobile CPUs.
I regret making good money and buying a 9070xt OC edition for only $50 above MSRP and a 5070ti for MSRP.
>>108132649>no consensus is reachedNTA but isn't a high vrm pretty much all you need to look for so you don't burn your house down?
>>108134883>Worth to upgradeAbsolutely, a 3060 Ti is pretty damn slow nowadays.
I regret making good money and buying a 5070ti
I regret, therefore I am.
>>108135047>From time to time some websites get a restock and a more realistic pricejust set up a tracker and snipe a 5070ti for a good price, then put your 9070xt up for salebetter late than never
>>108130150can some give me source to buy ddr5 32gb cl30 cheap from china
>>108135429same as with doing it in the westgo back in time before they raised prices
>>108135429Pinduoduo. You can also buy cheap OLEDs there. The only downsides are everything is in Chinese and you need a shipping agent for example SuperBuy or another carrier that accepts imports.
>>108135059Are you trolling me? Like fr, should i just buy 5070 ti?>>108135147Legit about to order it. I wished there was a benchmarch for Granblue Relink with a 5070 ti tho
>>108135460>Pinduoduois that like JD.com?they need you to upload ur passport to register lol
>>108135471Just search up Granblue Relink 4080. 5070ti will be exactly the same experience. It does 4k 60fps no prob, if you want 120fps you have to drop to 1440p.
>>108135472No ID required all you need is a valid chinese address. Thats where the shipping agent comes in so they can intercept your package and mail it to you.
>>108135504Oh damn no. Also, can you give me a link to that Pinduoduo RAM DDR5? I want Klevv.
>>108135513Its all in the app there is no website link besides a QR to download the app.
>>108134883Good thing you're on 1440p, CPU bottleneck will be more prominent at 1080p or lower (or a much shittier CPU like picrel)
>>108133387>ASUS's PCIe x16 slot quick-release mechanism scratches the contacts on your GPUOh, am I fucked? I just assumed it was my screwdriver since everything I own tends to get scratched up pretty badly by my screwdriver slipping off whatever screw I'm turning.
>>108134883>Worth to upgrade for a 5070Ti?If you're okay with spending 1000 dollars and up over 610 dollars for a 5070 in the US, sure
>>108134883Sure. Bottlenecks aren't really a thing in current year so you're good. I think a 5070 would probably be a better choice right now but if you have the money for the Ti go for it.
Zero RPMyah or nah
https://www.amazon.com.au/Crucial-Plus-NAND-Drive-Multicolor/dp/B0B25M8FXX4tb Crucial P3 Plus at $310 AUD>inb4 qlcFor games it would be fine as a game drive.
>>108135532can u screenshot the avrage price for ddr5 ram?
>>108135598https://ibb,co/LdwLhQ5Wreplace , with .4chan blocks my mobile range from posting images
>>108135664>https://ibb,co/LdwLhQ5WThat page doesn't existThe requested page was not found.
>>108135688replace , with .also theres millions of sellers and coupons. with the right stack you get 2x16gb 6000cl30 for $145 while American prices are double.
>>108135429I have some excellent news. I'm vibe engineering a time machine. We'll have you patched up in no time :)
>>108135705That page doesn't existThe requested page was not found.its the same
>>108135756works for me and i'm not even that poster
Is air cooling a 5900X or 5950X with a Phantom Spirit 120 in an airflow restricted case feasible or am I better off getting a 360mm AIO?
Are the expensive Asus motherboards low production volumes or can I sit and wait? I was going to get the x870e Glacial but they shipped the shit without its advertised cableless AIO on sale
>>108135792
>>108135799it will work in eco mode which caps the ppt. it will throttle if you attempt to pbo.
What the fuck.
just wait some more
>>108135818Right. Since nothing ever happens, what's one more day, nobody ever dies, everyone lives forever, and this afternoon a 10/10 babe will demand my phone number and try to force her way into my car to go home with me. BUT NOT BE A TRANNY!
>>108135801You can safely wait maybe 6-12 months I'm also eyeing that board but refuse to buy an early batch Asus board due to their frequent early batch QC issues
>>108135880I seewell, I was referring to waiting for either true RGB OLEDs or the fabled QDEL
>>108135802wutt
>>108135949I'll wait until when the actual AIO comes out then, my new PC build is waiting on the motherboard and whether the 9950x3d 2 actually releases or not
>>108135991>Brave
>>108134427yeah phones do 4K I'm not buying that
>>108136062All phones are 1080p or 1440p. 4k was only for a single Sony lineup thats discontinued now.
>>108132631I am on GNU + Systemd + GNOME + Pipewire + Linux. I don't care about NVIDIA or their meme shit. If I can't plug my GPU in and it just works, it's not worth it to me. No I won't go back to akmod or dkms bullshit either, especially since the nvidia userland drivers are also nonfree and shit.
>>108136354>Plug in GPU and it just works.So, not AMD then?
>>108136456I don't get your comment. I installed * + Linux on this desktop and I didn't have to do anything post-install. are you telling me 9070 isn't well supported by AMDGPU or Mesa or something?
>>108135815Power consumption is getting stupid.
>>108136354that's a good niche use case for the 9070xt but it'd suck hard if amd drops future FSR support for the series once UDNA is out, like they did to rdna3
>>108136476Nah, he's just an nvidia shill. In spite of the fact that you must install proprietary nvidia drivers for their cards to somewhat work.
>>108135815Based Intel keeping you warm during the cold months again.
>>108136495IIRC it's due to FP8 not being supported by the older cards, so I doubt you will have issues with RDNA4 in the near future.
>>108133956>NZXT didn't think to hide that garbageYes but at least it GLOWS!>>108134003>A bot wrote thisErrr... sure? >>>/r9k/>>108134406>> 27" 5k>The superfluous is the enemy of the necessary!But we love excess here at /pcbg/!>>108135139>isn't a high vrm pretty much all you need to look for so you don't burn your house down?Agree that good VRM design is important.>>108136495>that's a good niche use caseLinux is ~4.2% of the market so it seems you are Technically Correct which as we all know is the best kind of correct.
does it actually matter what OEM makes the card?
>>108136612if you're tweaking yes, if you're not then no.
>only majorly meaningful upgrade for my Zen 2 CPU that isn't a 5700/5800X3D would be a 5900X or 5950X>AMD recommends a liquid cooler for both chips for optimal performance and temperatures>mfw using a be quiet case with the closed off fromt panelOh fuck off...
>>108136640I bought a case with good 240mm AIO, but not 360mm. I feel like I got scammed.
>>108136612Depends on the card.Nvidia tends to set a specific clock and design parameters.AMD is a bit more lax.So for example with the 5070Ti, Nvidia sets that all the cards have to run at a specific core clock, with board partners being able to tweak the board to achieve a higher boost clock.With 9070XT, AMD is looser with what clock the card can run at, so you have two tiers of cards, cheaper lower quality cards that run at 1660MHz and more premium models that have a higher base clock of 1870MHz.
>>108136640every ryzen chip has 3 modes65w = eco mode105w = gamer mode170w = pbo modewhen amd recommends aio they mean pbo mode
>>108136612Depends on how you value silence, and depending on the manufacturer, aftersale service, some are better than others.
>>108136653My case can support a 360mm AIO on the front or a 420mm AIO on the top which is weird given it is silence-focused, mechanically at least.
>>108136663>look inside 65W TDP>88W PPT
>>108136685ppt is power cap not power target. the formula of ppt/tdc/edc produces the power target. it can boost 88w for a fraction of a second but then it immediately goes back down to 65w because the other limiters kick in.
>>10813668565 thermal watts = 88 electrical watts
>>108136702Dunno about other chips but in my experience something like my Zen 2 8-core would hold 88W electrically when doing all-core workloads such as when using Prime95, but it might also be degraded so it needs more voltage hit the target clocks.
>>108136612You know how like General Motors make the engine that goes into a Skoda, a WV, a ford, a Chevrolet, etc?Well it's kinda like that.
>>108136720every chip comes with different vid but they all should hit around the same set ppt but with varying clocks. also if your room\setup is generally hot that can add more voltage.
>>108134984there is a slight bottleneck but nothing that's drastic
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/110159/amd-could-release-next-gen-desktop-rdna-5-gpus-in-2027-near-same-time-as-next-gen-xbox/index.htmlI would like AMD to finally win this time.
>>108137148Remember when RDNA2 launched next to PS5? It was a hardcore paper launch.
Are the Pure Wings 3 PWM fans good value at 12-14 dollars a pop if I don't want my fans going past 1200 RPM or am I better off buying P14 Pro's as far as moving air in constricted cases goes?
>>108137169I'll still get it.
>>108137169And don't forget, zen3 too
>>108136056Literally nothing wrong with itIf anything it's nice it has media controla in its PiP window compared to stock Chrome and SupermiumNot touching any Trannyfox forksNot that anon either
>>108137204It'll be near unobtanium just like RTX.
Bought a XG27ACS and the colors are fucked on displayport. Yellows look green and oranges look washed out. Tried all kinds of things but nothing fixed it. Only thing left to do now is using another cable I just bought and sending it back if it still doesn't work properly, which is a shame since I like the monitor and the colors look great while using a hd cable.
>>108137500Are you using HDR or SDR? Also it's a pretty mid IPS panel its about on par with KTC but costs more.
>>108135815It's just the official power cap in case when board partners set “unlimited” power limit mode.>As a hard limit, PL4 isn't something you'd normally encounter, rather serving as a hard power limit in order to protect the processor when you remove power limits in your BIOS (such as when using the Intel Extreme performance profile). The chip will thermal throttle before it gets anywhere near 700W power draw in a custom liquid cooled daily setup.>another leaker, Jaykhin, says that Nova Lake won't allow you to offset TJMax, the maximum safe operating temperature, so you manually force the CPU into running hotter
>>108130150I'm a compfag that cares about refresh rate and motion blur. what monitor[s] should I be looking at?no Pulsar because I'm on Linux.
How come so many of their fans don't have the rubber pads and are left to be bare plastic?
>>108134220You should be using 4K DLSS Quality with a 240 Hz 32" 4K OLED if you can run 1440p full resolution. If you can run RT at 1080p, you use 4K DLSS Performance. You try to keep 60+ FPS and then apply FG on top of that. As for settings, game dependent. TW3 had a pretty bad RT implementation (heavily CPU limited); Cyberpunk 2077 had a pretty good one, but even to run 4K DLSS 4.5 Ultra Performance with path tracing you need a 5070 Ti, and Ray Reconstruction doesn't work with DLSS 4.5 yet, so ideally you just keep waiting unless you're buying a 5090
>>108132096not this year. 2027 is new GPU, new console, new CPU.
>>108134883Unless you know you need the 16 GB VRAM for local gen, or MH:Wilds is your main game, the 5070 non-Ti is a good choice, considering current street pricing.
>>108135592Yah
>>108137617the rubbers are a complete meme on high quality fans, the expensive ones include them to "justify" the high price
>>108136612Some offer better warranties. Generally speaking, more about model than make
>>108137148>I would like AMD to finally win this time.Not possible considering the Nvidia software and hardware lead
>>108132827the Steam Machine is a 6" cube with a soldered on CPU and GPU. it's not something you buy for upgrading.
>>108132839they're worse than AMD because they don't open source their drivers, but you should still be able to use it.
>>108134086AMD does ray tracing now. they're finally putting hardware on the cards for it, because Sony asked them to do it for RDNA 5 (next gen).
So, how do I know if/when I'm CPU limited? If it hits 100% usage? I got my hands on a 4070Ti Super, but my build is now outbalanced with an old Ryzen 3700X.Though I only play in 4K, so yeah. But surely I'll be bound to be CPU limited in some games, I suppose.Upgrading to a 5700X3D or 5800X3D is out of the question considering they're 2x the price they should be at due to DDR shortage. And I'm not sure it's really worth upgrading to a 5800X/5900X/5950X
>>108134086 >>108137725also AMD does better than Nvidia in CPU bound games, like high refresh rate BF6.
>>108134124what's the power different in those top 2 CPUs?
>>108134220in that scenario, I would pick 1440.I can only accept under 60 fps on my Steam Deck.
sorry for crossposting, but there's no TV thread and i didn't get any replies in the /sqt/, i hope i may ask here?i want a tv with 120+hz for gaming. 40+ inchesbudget is 500 euro, currently looking at the TCL 50Q7C. are there better options?
>>108137728Seconding this question, also on a 3700X though my best monitor is 1080p, followed by my old CRT, followed by my 1440p display which is way too slow for gaming>I got my hands on a 4070 Ti superDamn I'm jealous, I hesitated on buying a 4070 Ti Super or 4080 or 3090 so I had to settle for a 5070
HOLY BASED THIS MOUSE GETS YOU BANNED FROM APEX FOR USING IT LOL THEY ARE SEETHING
>>108135815can I charge my car at your house instead?it will consume less power.
>>108136062>phone camera records 4k>retards think the screen is 4k
>>108137776Based 3700X bro, I like it, does everything it needs to even to this days, it reminds me of a mini i5-2500k.I bought the 4070Ti Super used for 599 bucks, could be worse, could be better, but it's a version with 16GB, and I didn't want a 5070 with just 12Gb. 5070Ti are like 900€ minimum right now, if not 1000, and couldn't justify the price difference for basically the same performance with a 4070Ti S just to get multiframe gen I won't ever use.
Is the Pure Base 600 really that bad for airflow as a chassis if you ignore the blocked off front panel? I mean, two 140mm fans or 3x120mm fans on the front AND top seems like it would be pretty breathable if you had a mesh front panel and top panel instead of a solid panel, right? Assuming that those hard drive cages wouldn't kill the momentum of the air they take in.It seems like an easy modification if you encounter a hot summer.
cool
>>108137771I'm not too knowledgeable about tvs but I recently got a 65" TCL QM6K and it's pretty damn good.
>>108137656I get 90 fps at 4k with a 4070 and 7800x3d in mhw. 12GB is still fine.techfluencers have lied to everybody. 16GB and 8-cores are a not necessary.or Windows is just so shit that you need the extra headroom.btw Steam Machine has 6-core CPU 8GB GPU, handheld PS6 has 6-core CPU.
>>108137811Yeah, the 3700X has held up pretty well for me all things considered. I was honestly content with not spending $180 here and $150 there on CPU/memory upgrades when I was in Microcenter last winter, but I know now that it was probably a mistake if that was to be the last upgrade I could possibly count on. So I had someone who was still around pick up a 5070 Solid for MSRP (sans tax) while it was still around. It would have been a 5070 Ti but yeah, 900-1000 euro here or there was unjustifiable for me.Figured I might as well get myself some creature comforts while I can now since I missed the boat on everything else. That GPU is still going to be 2x as fast as what I have now and should be pretty power efficient.
>>108137728typically CPU bottlenecks only occur at high fps.
>>108137828lancool
>>108137788gonna need some more context.
>>108135815>>108137557Direct die liquid nitrogen is required. It's not electrically conductive so you should submerge the machine in it.
>>108137847*muffled overheating noises*
>>108137814i have a similar case, The air flow is not great, but but its not like case ambient air rises over 45°c under 400w load.The issue is not air intake, its discharge. I can lower my case ambient temperature by 10° simply by removing the top cover. And i permanently lowered it by 5° with good discharge fans.tldr. if you dont run x090 house fires it doesnt matter
>>108137541SDR, but the color issues persist on both.
These are adorable.
>>108137851adjustable feather trigger bumpstock mice require tax stamp and loicence
>>108137847bottom io killed this thing before it left the crib
>>108137852You should only build zhis PC in gronland.>>108137908>The issue is not air intake, its discharge.Is that so? My testing was inconclusive, I installed an extra 140mm fan on top running at 5V and even added a 120mm for intake on the top, but with the panel open by one notch it didn't seem to change temperatures that much for my setup. The issue seems to be the GPU dumps too much heat and increases the CPU temps by like 10 degrees, with the HDD cages blocking intake for the bottom of the two front 140mm fans.I'm honestly kind of surprised they didn't put a 140mm fan on the exhaust considering how wide the chassis is, the Pure Base 501 has one. I think it might have improved exhaust a lot. If they had a variant of the side panel with a vented cutout for a 140mm fan on the side, similar to old Cooler Master cases it would have probably done wonders for air flow as well.>tldr. if you dont run x090 house fires it doesnt matterI would imagine temps would still matter even if you run 300-400W of heat from your GPU/CPU, and if not that then noise from fans having to work harder, say by about 10% or so.
>>108137944bottom side i/o at at that real dumbass shit
Is there any benefit to mounting a third fan on dual-tower CPU coolers?
every time my monitor goes to sleep my fans kick into overdrive like something is using a lot of power.Windows issue? 7800X3D issue? 4070 issue?
>>108137981reinstall windows to get rid of the cryptomining trojan
>>108137974I think gamers nexus had a video on this and it provided negligible benefit.
>>108137989it's a fresh install.
>>108137981dont use mas this time
>>108137981some kind of fan speed control is being turned off i imagineyou might want to set your fan speed in bios by connecting to individual motherboard fan headers
>>108138009for real? I just have to use mas to unlock the hardware then reinstall?
>>108137954>I'm honestly kind of surprised they didn't put a 140mm fan on the exhaust considering how wide the chassis isi have double 92mm exhaust, thats equal to one 120mm.>The issue seems to be the GPU dumps too much heat and increases the CPU temps by like 10 degreeswell thats what happens with blow through cards, an aio doesnt suffer from that>If they had a variant of the side panel with a vented cutout for a 140mm fan on the side, similar to old Cooler Master cases it would have probably done wonders for air flow as well.pic rel, borderline placebo tier. my deshroud gpu fans directly suck fresh air from there, doesnt do much for temps >I would imagine temps would still matterthere comes a point where you need to balance dollar spent and austicially fixating on 50°c die temperature. 95% thermal limit during a bench doesnt kill your shit
>>108138011I'm gonna double check which fans are actually ramping up but everything is connected to the motherboard and controlled in the BIOS. I don't have any software other than gpu drivers that would interfere with the hardware controls.
>>108138015if you link a microsoft account you can do that yeah.
>>108137666You're wrong and deaf>>108137617Silicone definitely absorbs vibrations, ignore the retardIf anything avoid using screws as that will translate the vibrations into sympathetic vibrations that emanate from your case instead of the fan area
>>108138051I use a local account.
>>108138049Then in that case maybe software could solve the issue, or a good old fashioned physical fan controller, but those aren't worth the money.
>>108138058high quality fans have negligible vibrations, tests showed that time and time again. Its like 1% of the system noise while 99% is HDD and fans running a cunt hair distance to hex grills and fins
Why did Intel give up on this generation?
>>108138051Different anon here, but I haven't built a new pc in ages. Once I got everything set up, installed Windows with the official installer and signed into my account, it was saying it wasn't activated despite the fact I have my key assigned to my account. Am I just missing something here?
>>108137919Just begging for normal non-chromax Noctua fans
>>108138076well that and beat pulseBut idiots who don't know that extrapolate that data to think the free case fans for other brands won't have that issueRegardless, having spare silicone washers of 1-2mm will even improve shit fans or intake fans on mesh and slotted intakes because of the tunnel effect
>>108138044>i have double 92mm exhaust, thats equal to one 120mm.Damn, I had no idea fan size made that big of a difference so quickly. Makes me wonder more about dual-axial fan GPUs versus triple-fan GPUs and how they drop off in noise with larger diameter, 85mm versus 90m diameter for example. What are your dust filters in the picture by the way?>my deshroud gpu fans directly suck fresh air from thereI would have imagined they'd blow more air out than suck in, when I deshrouded my GPU I could feel the wind up from my chair if I opened the side panel, temperatures in my mid-tower dropped the most when I'd open it up like that. That was with 3 120mm fans strapped to the GPU though.>50c die temperature I was thinking more about 80c hotspot temperature and fans spinning up to 1500 RPM or more (during the winter, not summer), but yeah my 4770K and R9 280X survived grueling summers in my Zalman Z3 case with just 3 fans, though that Twin Frozr cooler had remarkably quiet fans.
>>108138083Trump literally told their CEO on twitter to go retire and here we are.
>>108138076>99% is HDD and fansIn my experience, GPU fans are the second loudest object after that since they usually don't put 120mm fans on GPUs for some reason. That's followed by your CPU fans if they're the kind which have bad motor hum, or by your pump if you fucked up and installed it wrong.
>>108138114>Regardless, having spare silicone washers of 1-2mm will even improve shit fans or intake fans on mesh and slotted intakes because of the tunnel effectwhile i dont disagree i say thats a bandaid and leaves a lot of potential untapped.Its more effective to use real thick spaces on filter mesh and cut out slotted fan guards completly, at most installing wire fan guards
I have silicone spacers on my fans, but I have no idea how I would use them with the short stubby kind of screws as opposed to the ones which thread on the other side of the fan. I'm guessing right below their head and before the thread?
Can the next thread be cute so I can introduce my femanons here?
>>108138130pi*r^2pi * 46 ^ 2 = 6,647.61pi * 60 ^ 2 = 11,309.73
>>108138145well thats something you can fix for 25$>>108138130>What are your dust filters in the picture by the way?120mm ebay wire mesh. and yes the gpu sucks air through them, the gpu sits higher than the filters.>Makes me wonder more about dual-axial fan GPUs versus triple-fan GPUs well you deshrouded one yourself, whats there left to wonder? my dual 120mm card runs 60°c at 1000rpm, stock it ran tripple 80mm 2500rpm at 80°c with 40 watt less
>>108138177No.>>108138221>>108138221>>108138221
>>108138142Why would he listen to the orange man?
>>108138173Use thesehttps://www.noctua.at/en/products/na-sav3https://www.noctua.at/en/products/na-sav4https://www.noctua.at/en/products/na-sav2If you have quality fansFuck screws and only use them on radiators and then you gotta make sure you have silicone gaskets on the fans to avoid the hum
>>108138177why is every gpu white with a shitty generic anime character on it
>>108138341>he doesn't know the counter weight trick for better temps
>trying to buy cheap computer parts on ebay>got scammed twice in a row in a week after literally never being scammed before in 10 years of using eBayI feel ashamed to even be a PC gamer if this is the quality of male that the hobby attracts.
>>108138636what the scammers do it with everything they canthe only constant here is you
>>108138636eBay is nothing but scams nowadays Especially Jose on the border
