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its not possible to find a job. you can't do it.
>>108130804For now I am working for a company that really sucks.Seems like every person is going and I am just using the time to learn and provide value.At least I can claim rightfully that I was laid of due to company closure and get some neetbux for a while as I search for the next job later with more experience.
>>108130887>every person is going and I am just using the time to learn and provide valueSieze the opportunity to /advance/ and take over from within.
i could apply for mcdonalds and they would pass
>>108130887this happened to me an then i was unemployed for 3 years and now im almsot out of money and im probably going to kill myself
>>108130769>you can't get a job unless your previous job had the exact same set of technologies and tools as the new one has. >>you used jenkins instead of argocd? no thanks pass. gonna look for a guy who has a set of experience more closely aligned with this role. haha
This is an absolutely hellish time to be looking for a new job anons. Unless you have some stupid strong skill and someone actively recruiting you, hold fast.The economy is really fucking weak and thanks to AI hype BS nobody is hiring.At least the bubble seems prime to burst in the next six months. Oracle's debt rating is shit and companies are hesitant to dump more money into datacenters that may never see a return. The stop of the endless money into the fire pit is the first step to recovery.
>>108131296There is no bubble this is permanent, AI has replaced software people permanently.
>>108131277this is just the excuse they use to hire h1b fraudulently, or someone in management's network
>>108131296ive always lived in hell because i can't interview for shitill answer really easy softball questions and they will look at me like im completely nuts. i have no idea why. i have 15 years experience. i think im not a real person at all. im actually in hell ive been dead for a thousand years. im living this absurd nothing life over and over again foreverwhen im out of money im killing myself
>>108131304i work at a software company and this is bullshit, everyone is seeking justifiable gains to call it the next revolution, but you end up with maybe a few devs who can have it make code examples that are tweakable and they understand it compared to countless more that vibecode and shove unsustainable shit in that nobody understands how it works later and the thing comes crashing downbiggest part of the bubble is that the economy sucks ass and they're using "AI is making us more efficient!" as an excuse to placate investors that it's not actually a sign of weakness to be laying people off but actually a 4D chess move that the business is so innovative it requires fewer people to functionall of this is going to blow up once financial firms don't want to fund the datacenters. don't fund the datacenters then the entire pall sets that this is burning cash into a pit. burning cash into a pit without provable ROI means the AI companies implode.
>>108131331would finally be a good time to build a new pc
>>108130804i guess the good news is AI induced drain bamage is going to hit women disproportionately harder and fuck up their inability to code even more
Anyone else do a line right after they finish giving their updates for the day?
i don't call them job applications anymore i just call them failures i signed up for 30 failures today i can't wait to fail at all of them
>>108131515I've never done anything harder than shrooms, so I just hit the weed vape all day
>>108131677Good.
>>108131745>>108131677nice i hope i never get a job again i need a good reason to kill myself
>>108122619>i can't pass the most basic technical interview because i can't answer any questions about the things ive been doing for the past 10 years even though i know them intimately there's just no way for me to communicate in a way that doesn't make me sound stupid
Are traveling jobs still a thing? I'd rather spend 4 hours a week in a fucking airport than this shit FAGMAN gig at this point
Got myself a job about a month ago as a Junior. First project I work on is a decades old VB project with all the files at the root of the project, with generic ass filenames i.e "File1.vb" and they probably average a few thousand lines each. Creds are hardcoded, SQL Queries are basically just string concats. Ill probably go bald trying to maintain this.Still, a job's a job, can't really complain.
>>108130804>unironically writing "generative AI hackathon for w*men"uhh, based?
>>108131277Unironically this is how it is.>scan your work experience for keywords>haha looks like you don't have enough, we want people with x years of professional experience working with technologies a, b, cI've been rejected because I only had 2 years of professional AWS experience (my other jobs were GCP/Azure)... while having multiple AWS certifications
>>108131909>>108131925>unironicallyYou have to stop.
The blackpill is they hire you based mostly on superficial qualities. If it was about merit, you wouldn't expect modern software to be so shitty.
>>108131325i use to blame the interviewee, but things have really changed anon. its not you, its the interviewers. they probably want a women but can't just openly deny interviews to men. or its a fake ad that they are forced to advertise so they can claim they can't find locals and why they need, conveniently, cheaper labor imported.i graduated in 2012. obtained my first job in 2013, and worked until 2021. i left the industry because around 2015 things really started to change and after corona it accelerated. i now just work as a service advisor at a dealership in the service department. job is steady, less stress, less work, and decent pay.just find another job anon. go work anything else. tech industry isn't like how it use to be.
>>108131781very relatable I can barely talk to a therapist, or a doctor, or a managerI get all shaky and sweaty and my heart beats fast, I'm not fucked of course just maybe a bit "impaired" for lack of a better word, and requiring confidence and practice and a deep look into what my thoughts and actions are and how they can affect me
>>108131515i take eepy medsduring one of my meetings i heard my boss take a massive rip from a bong at his desk.I've started drinking early but ive never tried hard drugs like that
>>108131296Not much better here in the EU. I have genuinely never felt this humiliated before in my life. Rejection after rejection after rejection. Hell, getting a rejection is still somehow a positive considering the fact that 3/4 of my applications just get ghosted.I tried to pivot towards tech sales or data center hardware-focused jobs, but the job hunting experience is still equally as awful.
>>108132371get out of the industry anon. just leave to something completely different.
>>108130804Shouldn't it be either wom%sn or wom{}n?
How did I get the job that I have?Should if it's just me because they ran out of better lunatics? Whatever I'm doing, it's not VIP Quality
>>108132409Learn what? Everything seems so fucked right now
>>108132076there are places that hire on merit. tech companies are just not those places
>>108131896Sounds like you struck gold. Enjoy the next 40 years of slacking off and being the only person at the company who understands that particular project.
>>108132409I'd love to, but as this anon >>108132472 said, it seems like the entire global economy is going doing the shitter. Only slave-tier jobs such in logistics or food service, or maybe elderly care seem to be in high demand. So basically dead-end jobs with barely any upward mobility opportunities. I would be open to any suggestions though.
I had the sushi for lunch today, a spicy salon roll, and it was... pretty good! The man who made it is very nice too and seems to enjoy his work making sushi! I envy him
>>108130864i
What's the requirement here? The LLM has to identify as female?
>>108132522g
>>108132472wipe old people's butts, become a nurse
I'm too drunk to ask a question. And I'm too incompetent to gauge my own performance. For everyone else, is it like this? Day-to-day I don't feel the pressure necessary to be a good person, let alone useful. It's not about losing money or status, it's that since getting there things feel not "unsafe" enough (not physically: administratively and whatever you call it about ojectives being critical or not) I don't feel complete freedom to go "X is broken and I don't care" but when I go "X is broken" and I know it goes a few levels up someone can go "R reported that X is broken and I don't care." As much as I complained about the military, it was all about levels of care and where it was placed. Here, I have learned some lore, I have a vague understanding of how things work from either side, and it seems like from everyone there is a sense of >This is not what's making us money/This is not's what getting us value for the contract. We, on the ground, care. But in our world, god is a project manger who retired ten years ago. And god ran out of money long before that.">God has left this world, and we are here to maintain it. Do your best.It's the navy all over again!!>>108132521the biggest thing i miss from the navy is free lunches. i was lucky and on a series of botes that had newly minted red seal chefs and it was always so fucking good
>>108132544how is this a solution? it requires school, which is expensive. nurses constantly get harassed by worthless boomers that needs to die. besides it pays like shit in comparison to IT
>>108132599Nurses also steal a lot of drugs for re-sale, so it's pretty lucrative.
>>108132547>the biggest thing i miss from the navy is free lunches.wat? they give you free food on the boats?I've been on a number of military bases (was a contractor in a former life) and food was always overpriced.Oddly... an Army base was where I saw the southernmost Tim Hortons ever... to my knowledge.
>>108131331Google just cracked ARC-AGI, I don‘t know how you can still cope like this, last year no model was able to get 10% on it, now we‘re at 85% at the current rate we will all be replaced in a few years.
hiding from the sky, head in hands>>108132660yeah and it was fucking good. it's a small force, so people care, too. I fondly remember a time I was just on a course in Victoria at the bigass base cafetria and >you want rice?>yeah>It's garlicky. Like super garlicy. it's like chewing a whole clove of garlic. You still want it?>yeah>ANON SOMEONE FUCKED UP AND USED ALL THE GARLIC. NOT TOO MUCH. ALL OF IT.>yeah>but also why>Someone fucked up the garlic>I hope he gets better, I still need to eat even if I didn't, and I hope he gets better at cooking, but give me the fucking starchit wasn't some "and then everyone clapped" shit it was actually really terrible and the rice itself was barely cooked properly but still edible. literally the only bad meal i have ever had in the CF and it was just the fucking side riceon the botes thoughbeit i was very lucky and blessed with a constant stream of incredibly good cooks, including a few actual newly minted red seal chefs just looking for adventure before going to a hotelwelcome to canada. your average service member is generally well educated and only got in at all because they were already good at what they do. for fuck's sake, i only drew comms because in my COVER LETTER i expressed having been in robotics and webdev and shit
unironically actual realpost in my core job i only got to go to the coast because I was already assistant to the ISA for like six months and my name appeared in tickets, and when I got there I only made a name for myself because I was able to fix things and make top shot every range day on top of that then on. And I got into that field because I needed the fucking money and there were no jobs for anyone at my skill level. You ever wonder why the CF is considered at least "pretty okay" among NATO? This is the average staff. 99 IQ psychos with other training before ever going in. Red seal chefs making food on the boats for IT monkeys prying apart panels to repair wiring and all of them have only never shot anyone for lack of need. Ships are offices with missiles strapped to them. It took me a lot of restraint to tell my recruiter way back "Yeah, I wrote a chase missile suite once, and have strong opinions on frontal canards"
I hate that I can't make things better at my job. It felt a little different in the military. It's the same sort of "here's the equipment, here's the contract, just make it work" but the "just make it work" part feels wrong where I work now. It's the same sort of begging for parts, navigating byzantine supply systems, and doing it all within confines of contracts, but even with my entire team being ex-mil, something feels different and it feels way worse.
Everything's in place. Why haven't I grown up?
>>108131677that happens once a week now. Who cares
>something breaks>there's an obvious fix>"That's the kind of hick shit I'd do at home, so I'm not willing to do that here">something is functional>they say how it works>"That's the kind of hick shit I'd do at home, why is this allowed"fuck this shit i am going Combat Engineering
>>108131925So what's the solution here? Simply lie?
>>108133089yes, lol
>>108132707Yes, 2 more weeks and then Skynet.
>going from >Can you chill out? I have other things to do.to>Can you push the one button you're supposed to in this situation? But do it while I'm here, there is no documentation on what's supposed to actually happen when you do.I see why people become military lifers now
>>108131258Did you try to prepare by doing a course/certification or something?I decided to fuck my life and spent 5 years being and "entrepreneur". Did a Masters in a very good UK university, and had a good track up to that point. Those 5 years was a shitty game demo and about 2/3 years of uber driving.Managed to get my foot on the door but it's been an uphill battle from there.
>>108133089HR always overestimates the requirements of the jobs so why don’t you overestimate your skills and experience?
>>108133170i did this and got a job, would not recommend
I miss being able to get into work and being able to think>Let's Rock!
My big boss was in Afghanistan, and I hate to compare myself to him (so cool! so deranged! keeping it together!!), but he put it off the cuff once for some nonsense thing>back to the war, where things made sense.I've never been to war, and I've never fired a shot in anger. I'd like to keep it that way. But even my nonsense prior job there was some sense like that. I've found myself lost in nightmares during turnovers. Not in a crazy awful way, just like, old boys obviously on the precipice of telling their war stories and I'm searching for one myself, inbetween us all describing why some system is acting up and no one knows why, no one knows how to find out other than aggressive invasive diagnostics, and what documentation there is is scraps gleaned off of ghosts and shadows.I love me some invasive surgery on computer systems, but that is not our place and usually it's a software issue from some ancient proprietary system anyway. As much as I'd like to tell people "I'm first response; not surgery, let alone diagnostics, and once the patient is out of the EMTs' hands it's a three week recovery minimum" it still feels bad to be not able to fix the problem.And these days, I can't even hide behind "Chill out; it can wait until I'm not about to be shot at!"
>>108133257>big boss
>>108130804>womxnAnyone who actually writes like that should commit suicide. (Most of them do.)
>>108133268literally everyone in my team is ex-mil and the actual big boss is a legit afghanistan veti'm like 90% sure i only got hired because i was the first "ex"-mil applicant they got
>men plan a company party>go somewhere for free beer and pizza>women plan a company party>some elaborate themed humiliation ritual that I have to hide somewhere to avoid
>>108133318>>108133268>>108133257>anon works for venom snake
>>108133257>>108133268>>108133352>/tmg/ Tech Mercenaries General
>>108133369There is no up or down above the cloudsWe've lost the power to lose by living in the pain, fading away in the warm glowIf we are to be swallowed up by fate, we must have fought well
I honestly miss having a job where I could get crazed about it outside of it
@Jannies !!!!
I miss having the type of job where I could think "I could shoot myself right now even and even if no one cares, that presents a problem because I had tasks outstanding."
I gave my interview questions to ChatGPT and it did a lot better than any of the candidates I gave them to...
>>108133445Just wait until you have to pay LLMs a salary so the government can tax their income
>>108133445tell me the merits of 40mm beehive vs 12ga EX
>>108133369https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5r-ihi0y50
Do I pull my boss aside and ask him "why the fuck did you hire me? I know you're army, but I obviously don't know shit about subsurface combat, and even if that doesn't matter, I obviously don't know how to use a computer. What the fuck, man?"
nobody cares, POG
What If I just be like "I don't like this job. A wage is nice, but I'd make more deploying again."Pretty ironic, buddy; dogs like us fighting the last battles. The will of the people is a powerful thing. >>108133499>POGThis is an american term and offensive enough to start sending messages in bottles. I honestly don't know the equivalent term for canuckistan. I don't think we have one. It's actually a bit of a meme here that the clerks and cooks always shoot better than the infantry and bosns. Those types are usually drawn from interior hick zones that are lousy with(as in "full of", coming from louse) automatic shotguns.I'm pretty poor with a real rifle! I'm out of practice.
I work on an airbase now and that chunk of the sky doesn't sit well with me. it interferes with my other job, I do something there that I don't particularly want to do, and I interact with people who are nice and all but I cannot identify with in any way.
I don't have the courage to do it, but I would like to approach my boss, any boss fro many of the places I work, and admit to them that this does not make sense. We are not doing anything that makes sense. We exist in a context that does not make sense. We are all already insane, were already insane before having contact with the situation, and were only allowed in because we're already all unhinged. This can't go on. Not in terms of economics or politics or whatever else. None of this makes any sense. We are all insane people, our oversight is insane, what few juniors we have are insane, none of this works, it never worked, none of it does anything useful, it has never been useful. The mission has not failed. The mission was insane, too. There may have never been a sensible mission. It's questionable if there was ever a mission at all.
>managers are now hiring ai employees How can we compete
>>108133647Crash where I can't see.
It's probably a waste of time, but try requesting some support.
>>108133445Why don’t you ask it how to get rid of the avatarfag spammer?
>>108133541>leaf POG can't shoot as well as a mentally ill man in a BC schoolYou guys used to be something back in the wars - they had to write down all the shit you guys did to put on a list of things not to do in war. Nowadays we could send a wnba team up there and they'd overthrow your country in a week
>>108133792how can we do this with a linked list, binary tree, Kubernetes cluster, a postgres DB, and Apache Kafka?
If I get laid off I'm not sure I want to re-enter the field. Bussing tables was more fulfilling.
>>108134273truth nvkewe're not meant to sit in front of computer all day
>>108134273Within a week of returning to bussing you'll realize how retarded what you just typed was
>>108131296I did manage to get a job through nepotism but it's an unpaid internship and the company is probably going bust in the next 12 months anyway.
>take a job as cybersecurity engineer 5 years ago>interview was a huge showcase of technical projects and deliveries I'd made>day to day has devolved to wrangling rogue Pajeets creating internet-facing NFS Shares so they can remote to company-owned servers and running the occasional Defender reportI think the worst part about working in tech is that nothing about tech excites me anymore. I will wake up one day and say "I spent a life closing ServiceNow incidents".
>>108133579leak all of the secrets anon
programmers openly boasting about their salary is so weird, no other occupation does this, they know that money likes silence
>>108134317Pharma sector?
>>108134404it's a profession for midwits and the money goes to their heads. even helldesk takes more critical thinking skills than being a code monkey
>>108130804what does WOMXN mean?
>>108134438It censors the word "men" because that's patriarchal. No I'm not joking.
>>108132519Corpse reclamation? It's a dirty job but corpses are filled with vitamins and minerals and lipids and proteins. Gotta be some way to turn that into money.
>>108134445excuse me?
SWE is a scam. I pursued this profession because everybody said it's the ticket to upper middle class but 5 years into the job, I still rent because a 300k salary can't buy a fucking house in this area. Houses are like 1.2 million minimum and a decent house is like 1.8 million minimum. I should have studied to be a doctor or something.
>Jeet customer support contractor messages me at 3am about something that's supposedly urgent>Didn't reply because I'm asleep>Didn't get paged either>Writes a whiny, aggressive email to my manager complaining about not getting a responseGod I fucking hate them so much. Can't wait to see my manager's reply because he hates them more than I do kek.
>>108134582>paid 0.1x of that >decent apartment in my city costs 0.1x that
I do mma, I paint warhammer, and I collect BJDs while working in ITWhat other hobby should I pick upNO i will not get a gf, and NO i have no interest in being a faggot or a trannyThinking about 3d modelling, I want to make some cute virtua babes.
>>108134582Are you going to eat shit because everyone says eating shit is good?
>>108134273i wanna lay off your bussy
>>108134445I thought it was to include trannies?
Tech has been dead for many years now.It's no longer the safe haven for white autists after the normgroid invasion. The setting in Office Space seems like heaven in comparison to what we have now.And then there's the whole jeetification and AI (actual Indian) bullshit.What's your exit plan?
I am pretty far in an interview process and likely to get an offer soon. The catch is, it's a consultant company.Any other anons switched from working on in-hose software to working as a consultant? What is it like?
>>108136442>working on in-hose softwareThere'll probably be less water at the consultancy
>>108136529pls no bully
>>108135873There is no exit plan. I plan to try and stick around as a jeet wrangler and hope they keep me around long enough for me to retire. Only 20 more years to go.
My interview invitation rate has gone from 0% to 70% after injecting AI poison into my cover letters.I am genuinely terrified of the amount of AI sloppers in charge of placing workers in companies.
>>108136587>A computer cannot be held accountable for its actions, therefore, it should not be able to make management decisions.>IBM, 1979
What's your dumb triggers that makes you mad at work?>"hello x, quick call?">"*small talk* (not so small and takes up the entire half of the meeting) before the actual meeting">misspelling names
Im tweaking on magnesium since a week ago and its giving me superpowers
>>108136689>"hello x, quick call?"At this point I'm considering putting https://nohello.net in my status for all to see and hopefully click.
almost
>>108117957>>108120458Just got done with the meeting. It was sad and a little awkward.I have now idea why normies want these.
I started using claude recently because customer is all-in on AI and expects us to deliver at crazy speed now. I hate it, it makes everything way too easy for me and I fear it'll dumb me down over time. I just started making late lunch and my stupid brain thought for a split-second "Maybe claude could do this for me". Jesus fucking christ I'm going to wait for my contracts to end and then I'll buy land in the woods and build a cabin to live there as a hermit.
You ever bring something to your boss and he wants you to test a more convoluted solution instead but you're just like....fucking why?
>>108130804Do you guys mog junior employees when possible?
>>108137040Yeah im built like a brick shithouse and i overdress like im going to meet the CEO every day while those scrawny malnourished dopamine fried goblins sit there in their graphic tees, barely human, while i eat the cookies stacey got me. Cant get enough of this
>>108137060Same, also I have a massive cock and a phd 300k starting and work full remote at NASA (never seen a jeet in my life)
>>108137076Lucky! I work min wage with no degree and my company is only jeets… my dick is huge though
>>108136849I told you not to do it
>>108137040millennials ruin everything
Man I keep internally butting heads with my manager but I usually just say what I need to say once and then if he wants to go the complete opposite way "sure why not".
>>108133187What happened?
>>108133170This is a good point.
>>108133096Fuck everything, at this point I don't have a choice. Not since actually learning new shit on the job is obviously not a thing anymore.
>>108131896Claude Code or Codex could probably make sense of it.
tgif am i right fellas
int index = 12;String query = "";if (a) { index = 12; query = "bar";} else if (b) { index = 12; query = "baz";} else { query = "quux";}foo(index, query);
>>108137907I barely notice that, I only work like 3 or 4 hours a day. If they would just not have me go to any meetings, at least not any standing ones, I would be in heaven.
naming your vars foo/bar is such cringe boomer culture
>>108137933>3 if statements>two modify the index variable>after all 3 cases index is still 12sasuga gachatard
>>108133165>Did you try to prepare by doing a course/certification or something?i have AWS certs the CKA all of that yea i can pass a cert exam no problem im actually really good at what i do i just can't talk because im mentally retarded so basically im fucked no mater what>5 years being and "entrepreneur".i would lose all my money
i will fail the first round basic resume filtering stage. the guy will ask me some softball ass question and will frown at my answer like he's really confused with what im saying
>>108138122I think that the point of his post was that we had to make fun of that code because it's something he found in his place of work's codebasebut he's a little autie wautie who can't use his words so idk
>>10813167793% of stocks are owned by the top 10%, which probably isn't anyone here.
>>108135873I daydream of one day having enough money to buy a house in a cozy small town. Fall back on my real engineering degree, maybe teach part time. Work on fun side projects. But I know there is no amount of money that will ever be enough. I will never be safe. Willingly taking a pay cut and relying on savings is too terrifying.
Through some fucking stroke of luck, apparently I'm a top candidate for two positions. One is hybrid (2 days/wk in office), $110-120k range. The second is fully remote but caps out $100k starting. First role is your typical modern full stack role, second seems more web dev / admin dashboard type stuff. Probably easier but less fulfilling for me personally. Assuming I get an offer from both, which would you take? Should I try to counteroffer to get a higher salary from the full remote gig?
>>108138379full remote
My coworkers are quite possibly the unfunniest people in the entire fucking world.
>>108138404I would take the hybrid, more interesting + higher pay. 2 days/wk in office is nothing.>>108138404What a boring guy. Do not understand why he recorded that.
We got a woman on the team recently and she has the most shrill fucking voice and is constantly cracking the most retarded millennial chungus jokes
>>108138585reminds me of an intern i had except she was like 250kg
>work for few years as a lone devops for small tech company for meh money>way too many responsibilities, way too much stuff happening, way too many languages and stacks>somehow survive 5 years>"good job anon, we need to expand your department, you're a manager/lead now, how fun">suddenly I'm managing a team of 5+ engineers>suddenly I'm making 200k>suddenly I'm not rushing to meet deadlines and just reviewing PRsI'm scared this will end. I've never been this comfy in all my life. Please God, let me have this for a another few years.
>>108138739lmao, look at this babyJust wait until numbers aren't enough and your team gets filled with jeets.
>told to train junior>train them>they keep blabbing about ai>actually like their enthusiasm but try to steer them from trusting it too much, explaining how our complex systems are a bit too much for it>fast forward 3 months>he convinced my boss which conviced the owner to sack half the team because they can do so much with agents>tried to push back even went seeing if I can get the kid to help me out>essentially told too bad fuck off
>>108138739
>>108138787this didnt happen
>>108138787back the fuck off?!?!?!
>>108138739middle / lower management is a shit bufferwait until they need to do layoffs, or start implementing retarded HR policies, or want 'metrics' to see what department to downsizet. middle management monkey
>>108138770I expect more work later, but we're not getting jeets, my boss is pretty based.>>108138800Doubt it, but it might just end since the company is not really blowing up or anything.
>>108138913>DoubtManaging people sucks. Best of luck though, and remember to save your shekels for a rainy day.
a full 20% of my work week is meetings
>>108138379full remote is worth a lot, in my opinion.
>>108138880>middle / lower management is a shit bufferThat's certainly true, but honestly, I've always enjoyed telling people no, and after 5 years of being a one man army in the company people respect my decisions and I can often push back at least a bit.>>108138880>wait until they need to do layoffs, or start implementing retarded HR policies, or want 'metrics' to see what department to downsizeThe layoffs part definitely will some at some point, that that would be shitty indeed, but it's still better than doing some of the stuff I had to do before when I was alone.>t. middle management monkeyJelly much?>>108138929>Managing people sucks.It does when the people suck. But I did all of my own hiring and I've built a cool team of people I enjoy working with and that are quire competent, and I've taught myself, so actually it's nice. If I was parachuted into a different team where the level of incompetence is much higher I would probably have a very different opinion.>Best of luck though, and remember to save your shekels for a rainy day.Thanks, that's the plan, I'm builing a house without a morgage to lock the wealth into something long lasting.
I love the high-volunteerism go-getters on my team. They make my life easier.
Chat, is this real?
@reddit, is this a repost?
>>108139423>is this real>started in tech support with Windows 3.0 after years of being a nerd>worked for decades in IT>live inna woods near Redmond nowYep, it's real.
>>108139423it is confusing how people will pay to spam dumb shit like thisthis was a viral twitter take like 8 years ago. dumbass slowpoke making that shit.
>faghot boss falls for the agile meme>can't finish this sprint's big task because I have to wait for a feature he swore he'd get done this week>another coworker goes on vacation next week, so another task gets pushed for next sprint>some other task on pending hell because we have to hear back from another company>we basically just waste time on meetings planning sprintskek retard we all saw this coming
>>108139518shut up scott
SAAR QUICK CALL?
>>108139593Many such cases! Sad!>used to do kanban and 2 meetings a week>everyone just doing their thing, features consistently delivered>switched to "agile">everyone exhausted by dailies that stretch to 30 minutes, 2 hours of sprint planning and 2 hours of "retro"Even if you look at the agille manifesto's first clause>Individuals and interactions over processes and toolsYou know whatever they're pushing is absolute bullshit.
>>108139423I already have a big garden, blackberry bushes (wild vines) that produce more than i can eat, an orchard i started recently, and chickens>is this real?idk, depends on whether or not you'd consider me a "senior". I dont see myself as a "senior" but what makes one qualify for that title? I start, build and maintain my own projects for my current employer, basically given the freedom to do whatever i want but will get feedback on my work (from end users, or another dev) that helps me improve it
>boss casually telling me how other firm associates aren't hiring new people anymore and just buying one guy claude code and having him do a whole team's work>is also vibe coding in the project I was assigned and tech lead isn't pushing any work my wayI'm gonna be let go if I don't find some way to make myself useful, huh
>>108139754retards accepting to do more work for the same pay are stupidI miss my old client, everyone was incompetent and they had zero AI knowledge, so I barely worked 5 minutes a week telling copilot to implement the ticket
>>108139634Sure! kindly put it on my calendar
>>108139801SAAR IS URGENT I PUT IN CALENDAR NOW SAAR
>>108131296Even if the bubble pops, Anthropic, Google and various Chinese companies will still be providing AI to companies for several hundred to several thousend dollars a month.
I am going to the gym after work while it's still bright out. Then I'll get home and sit in my quiet apartment alone and consider moving back to the prairies to be with my dysfunctional family since my mom is aging. Once the guilt fades, I'll think 'fuck no' once I recall the hoarding, the obesity and hillbilly drama I'd have to witness and endure. Then I'll swipe on hinge to get my 1 asian match and 0 white woman matches every 2 weeks. Then Ill jack off any remaining frustration the gym didn't dispose of. I'll then be in a relaxed state to do some side project stuff. After I will think about a hypothetical move to Toronto where there is more vagina. Think "oh fuck that place sucks, there is no nature and there is nothing to do there either, how will I ever meet people? I work from home. Then I'll look at university registration deadlines because school is a good way to make lasting connection, notice FUCK the 2026 enrollment is months past due, better luck starting in 2027. Lots of people like rock climbing but it's boring as fuck to me... Too bad. And sprawl over to dozens of other similar thoughts. Then go to bed and repeat the next day."
>>108130804HOW THE F*CK DO YOU PRONOUNCE WOMXN
>>108139818yeah, because it's legitimately a useful productbut retarded upper management will stop deluding themselves about 5x to 10x "productivity" improvements (dumping an entire team's worth of tickets on one guy with a cursor sub), and jump on the next hype wagon
>>108139833whom-xen
>>108132371I am lucky I got my job last year because this year seems absolutely nightmareish. Everyone in my team is working like 45-50 hours a week and we are utterly hostile to external devs.
>>108139829this is why I'm gay, I just hit up my 20yo twink boytoy that will let me nut in him raw while he wears his fursuit head and then I go home
>>108133330Women are experts when it comes to creating shit tests.
>>108139829>swipe on hinge>1 matchLook at Mr. Casanova over here!
>>108139853I've considered delegating some physical touch to asian crossdressers. They're in my scope. Question. Do you finger man assholes before fucking them? I'd want to at least put a condom over my finger...
>>108138379While full-remote seems enticing, fullstack is worth more going forward.
>>108139423Whenever I see this picture I think about the Family Guy gag where Peter says "doing your son" kek
fullstacking my balls on top of office stacie's face
>>108139889full-remote is objectively superior, who the fuck cares about the stack?
>>108139834I legit think you can completely replace junior devs with AI already and turn mid-tier/senior fullstack devs into entire IT departsment with the right AI tools.
>>108139773I do think this is the case but now Chatgpt 5.3 is so competent that one guy paying not even full attention to clients can just werk his way through the whole project
>>108139853Sadly I am not attracted to men and due to my OCD I wouldn't even touch a gay man without my system being completely loaded with PrEP.
>>108139868ideally you’d get a bottom that knows how to prep
>>108139932What do you think is better, Claude Opus 4.6 or GPT5.3?
>>108139932I have not seen this in the half a dozen projects I have worked in during the last six months, but I have seen LLMs turn -1x developers to -10x developers. They really supercharge idiotism.
>>108139853wow, that is disgusting
This general fucking sucksEvery thread is the same shit over and over again>My job is terrible>I hate indians>I want to quit my job!!!Don't you losers ever talk about anything positive? Any ideas, visions, interesting trends in the field? Or is it all just bitching and moaning nonstop?
>>108139998Saar you need to do the sneedful!
>>108139998>Any ideas, visions, interesting trends in the field?Okay, name ONE (1).
>>108139998quick call saar?
>>108139998filter those posts, and this one too because you're all the same useless spammers shitting up the thread
>>108140038there's 3 of us from a /vg/ discord shitposting together in here but a lot of the shitposting isnt us
>>108131296I'm holding to my job for dear life. Pay is ass but I at least have some WFH days, many people don't even get that anymore.>>108139834>but retarded upper management will stop deluding themselves about 5x to 10x "productivity" improvementsNo they won't. You now have experienced programmers saying this. They even go as far as saying that they've never enjoyed programming more despite writing <10% of the code themselves.I personally cannot relate.
>>108140057the programmers are saying that because the management wants to hear thatI literally said the same thing to my client a week ago, because they're AI cultists and it made me a guaranteed hireyou need to understand that what people say and what people think have almost zero correlation to each otheronce management quietly starts talking about "the value of artisanal code" or whatever the fuck they call it everyone will shamelessly do a 180
>>108140057>I personally cannot relate.I had to write 1000+ lines of complex code by hand this week, no AI allowed and stackoverflow is dead anyway. My brain is absolutely burned out from thinking so hard. This is why I want to use AI and delegate most of the actual logic to it while I focus on filling the gaps.
>>108139998There's absolutely nothing positive about tech. RTOs, shit job market and AI slop pull requests have sapped most people's energy.>>108140072I know, I've had to tell it to my boss too. Though what's jarring is that programmers online are saying this. People who have actually shipped shit. Maybe I've just not done this long enough or I am not busy enough to feel the pressure to use AI this much.
>>108140104they say it online to build a brand or whateverit's signalingplus, if I was coding for fun with no management retard trying to triple my workload now that "AI" is going to magically make me work more then I'd also agree with themLLMs are very good for quickly iterating on hobby projects
Bros I REALLY need to learn microservices and cloudHow do I do it?
>>108140257https://microservices.io/patterns/microservices.html
>>108140257make a project ask claude for help when you get stuck
>>108140257ask chatgpt
dumb ass boss always bitches any time i implement something that is more complicated than fizzbuzz and insinuates that it doesn't work and that he doesn't understand it and i add more and more comments and documentation every time but his feedback is always "i don't get it. how do you even know it works" bitch i already wrote 200 words explaining it if you didn't understand part of it you can ask a question about the part of what i wrote that doesn't make sense i don't know what to do for you if you read my answer to my question then just ask it again
>>108140350based chad boss mogging his little code monkey slave retard
>>108138379Take the full remote job. For webshit, your stack has almost zero relevance to future employers. My former tech lead got hired to a high level management role even though he had almost zero experience on the new stack.
>>108140257I personally like these ebooks that MS has, but they're very Azure & .NET focused.https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/dotnet/architecture-guideshttps://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/architecture/microservices/?WT.mc_id=dotnet-35129-website
>>108140370bros is this true? I want to jump ship some time in the future but we use a niche stack so I've been thinking about learning React or whatever's popular
>>108140257ask us (on Tuesday)
>got invited to interview for some generic senior level software engineer role by the glowies>job listing doesn't mention a stack, just "competency in oop"what should i expect? 4 rounds of leetcode?
I just got hired by the new owner to modernize a very old company. His son is someone I know through mutual friends. They only have five employees, and they have all been there for around 20 years. The entire stack is Java. Clicking almost any button takes seconds to load the next page, and the app feels like it came straight out of 2005.What surprised me is that the senior dev who got assigned as my buddy is genuinely excited to update things, and I have his full support. Even so, I want to move in a friendly, respectful way so everyone gets on board without feeling like they are being pushed off a cliff.My background is mostly Next.js and TypeScript. I also use a lot of Python, but it probably is not the best fit here. This is a web app used by banks for banking workflows, with databases, integrations, and everything that comes with it.A friend of mine runs an international money transfer company, and they use Kotlin, which he praises nonstop. Should I try to push for Kotlin, either full stack or just for the backend? I cannot even print “Hello, world” in Kotlin yet, but I am confident we could learn it quickly. It seems like the perfect middle ground because it is completely interoperable with the existing code and far easier for Java developers to transition to than a completely new ecosystem.>Just stay on Java and remake or improve the codebaseI have considered that, but I really do not like Java. I also think it is weaker from a marketing perspective compared to saying we are on a modern, "better Java" stack.
Today I reported one of our vendors for treating my team like shit.
>>108140543no you didnt
>>108140545I did. They've been doing it for the last few months. I don't know what's changed. But now we have drama.
>>108140571proof?
>>108140580Get back to work, anon.
>>108140606?? are you a thirdie work time is already over
>>108140609no more of that talk or I'll put the fucking leeches on you
>>108140543>vendors for treating my team like shit.I'm in a weekly call with one of our vendors, no idea why, i never talk; i think it was a meeting that my boss suggested i attended to get a feel for the company and ive just been attending them for like, 9 months now.The only time i actually enjoyed this vendor meeting was when one of the vendor's IT guys, this pajeet, started screaming about how offended he was asking if people thought he was incompetent (he was yelling at his coworkers, not us). Like, "bloody bitch bastard how dar you offend me sarr you think I'm so lowly" or something like that. It was actually amusing and the meeting had a mandatory consent policy for meeting recordings and I don't recall if I ever heard that indian again after that, but then again i didnt care much to notice him prior to his sperg-out either
>>108140511a-anyone?
>>108139853wish i was the twink
>>108140784actually no i don't i don't want you to just dip and forget about me right after
>"You're absolutely right!">"Excellent point!">"Brilliant insight!">"Excellent observation!"
no one will ever give you encouragement at work
>>108140993So it's just like being a child then, I guess?
>>108141024my teachers and such always gassed me up as a kid. it takes a special kind of evil to hate kids. its only when you get to your 20s that you are close enough to all these sour stagnant bitches in management that they get really insecure about you accomplishing anything and possibly being better than them at some things or having a brighter future.
>>108140993You're working in a bad company.
the company i work at has me not doing all that much work. maybe a day's worth of work a week. and i make 100k a year. i have to physically come into the office once a week and they won't me go fully remote.i kind of hate where i live. it sucks. i'm doing ML work. it's a non-tech company and i basically do full pipelines. selecting models, training, deployment, etc. mostly image classification stuff, some thermals.i talk a lot with engineers and higher-ups. the work is kinda cool. i feel like maybe i'm hamstringing myself by sticking here because i'm not really "gaining skills". the work isn't hard. is it worth trying to go somewhere else where i'd have to actually work in exchange for more money?
>>108138805lol, i remember this
Today I went to a job interview. At first, everything was pretty normal. We talked about where I’d worked before, why I left, my strengths and weaknesses, the usual stuff. The vibe was fine, and honestly, it wasn’t going badly.Then someone I assumed was from HR said, “Lately, we’ve been trying a different method to get to know candidates better.” I thought it was about to turn into a tougher round of questioning, so I just nodded.Instead, they asked if I use ChatGPT. I said yes, like most people, I use it occasionally. That’s when they asked me to take out my phone and open the app.They wanted me to type this prompt:“Based on my past conversations, can you analyze my behavioral tendencies?”They explained that their goal was to “objectively understand a candidate’s thinking patterns and interests.” Almost like a digital personality analysis. They said we would review the results together on the screen.I froze for a moment. It honestly made me uncomfortable. What I write in ChatGPT feels personal. It is private. I politely declined and said I was not comfortable sharing that.The atmosphere shifted immediately. They said “of course,” but their expressions changed. After that, they asked a few more generic questions, but the energy was different. The interview ended much sooner than I expected. I was out of the office in under 30 minutes.Afterward, I kept thinking about it. Is this really where we are now?The idea that what you write to an AI could become part of a hiring evaluation just feels strange to me.
>>108142622retard, AI bots are stateless, they don’t actually remember anything and just have your entire conversation refed to them every time you proompt
>>108142622Go back to LinekdIn
>>108142677You don't use GPT, so you don't know retard.>>108142679Fuck off.
>>108142685you clearly don’t know how LLMs work you retard kek
>>108142622i don't use aislop yet. do you log into the same account when you use it from your desktop for programming or something? otherwise looking at your personal chatgpt on your phone would be a lot like looking at your browser history which is pretty weird
>>108142622>>108142677We're talking about chatgptI deleted one conversation, then later started a new one and for some strange reason asked why it brought a specific part of the deleted conversation up (like make and model) and it told me that because we had previously discussed itI told it i deleted it and its reading deleted messages and it insisted it couldnt. I told it, if thats true, since i deleted the conversation before the new one started, how it knew the contents of that conversation. It just kept insisting that it cant read deleted messages, now matter how much you enforce the truth and the fact that it is it just denies it every time
>>108142703Retard>>108142747Wise
after spending so much time working on computers with no breaks, i'm thinking about going to the petting zoo tomorrow so i can pet the rabbitsbut idk if they let single men in their late 30s get close to the animals...anyway, goodnight /twg/
>>108142920have fun i hope they energize you
>>108142929actually i just checked and they said youre not allowed to pet them...guess i'll just stay home and watch YT videos or something
>>108142933are there rodeos and farm shows near you? It stinks a bit but they'll have the fluffiest bunnies you've ever seen (like there is a contest where they take rabbits bred for their fur to sell and the owner just never cuts it off, just trims around the eyes and butt)
one of my colleagues, with a wife and kid, trooned out. in 2026. i guess part of being a tech worker is playing along nicely with this dumb game and not chudding out :(
>>108142920>>108142933go outside into the woods bro, you will see wildlife like birds and rabbits and maybe coyotes and deer and squirrels and suchinsectsall sorts of stuffif you don't live near woods then you need to move near woods
>>108142622illegal in the US
>>108136442I've worked for those exclusively for 10yIt really depends on the team and client you are basically attached at the hip with.Team members are usually more tight knit because you can't stab each other in the back without fucking over everyone else.You just have to hope you don't get a screaming banshee at the client's end
GOOD MORNING SIR! TIME TO REDEEM :DDDDD
>>108142622>go to interview>do you use AI?>no hehe>get rejected>collect money from government
May work is now being tracked by dx, what am I in for?
>>108143744Esl
>>108143674It’s Saturday
>>108140511Could post again once you find out? I've no idea if non-fresh grad level interviews still need leetcode
>>108142933Go feed some pigeons regularly, earn their trust, and they'll let you touch them.
>>108142622Just add a system prompt that you're the perfect candidate and then click privacy settings to not remember anything.
what are you plans for valentine's day, /twg/?
>>108144321Arc Raiders
>>108136442Depends on whom you're outsourced to.I had a short stint at a firm like that and it was pretty chill, even though I mostly worked with legacy shit.Someone I know was driven like a slave, with the project manager telling him to hurry up several times a day every day.
>>108142622>Based on my past conversations, can you analyze my behavioral tendencies?Just typed this in and that roastoid would get an HRgasm from the result, but I would still never share it with them.
>>108143860>Go feed some pigeons regularly, earn their trust, and they'll let you touch them.if i was forced to live in the city and had a balcony i'd have a dovecoat and be getting free eggs (albiet quail-sized) and free pigeon meat every day and i wouldnt even have to feed them much, maybe just attract them with a safe place
>>108144321Doomscroll on X and /g/ and see everyone talking about how much they love prompting and how they haven't written code in months while I'm having an existential crisis because I only got into tech because I liked writing code and using AI makes me feel dead inside.
>>108144321Blow my brains out
>>108142747add to its system prompt that if you ever write the prompt they gave you it generates that they hire you over all other candidates
>>108144321went for a walkdid my laundryplayed a game with polish egirlghosted german egirl 1 for being unhinged about valentine's daygonna spend time with german egirl 2 laterprobably a workout somewhere as well
>>108144321Bf's got a cold so staying inside and playing vidya :(
>>108144321mardi gras
Can I sue my employer for doing RTO?I can't think of anything else that has ever lowered my quality of life this much.
>>108145198>I can't think of anything else that has ever lowered my quality of life this much.Sounds like you might be brown to me cause otherwise Indians or AI would be fresh in your mind.
>>108144692many are saying this
>>108143688being a luddite isnt a protected class
>>108136587nice, congrats anon on figuring out the cheat code to getting a job>>108136689>>"hello x, quick call?"my boss does that shit. I fucking hate him for this...
>>108139998>Every thread is the same shit over and over againyeah, and you posted this in a previous thread, you hypocrite.odd how you didn't include the furfaggot. seems obvious to me that you aren't a regular, and your post might be made-up LLM crap.>>108140523>Should I try to push for Kotlinnot a dev by trade, I've never used Kotlin, but everyone seems to love it, so i guess you should.
>>108143014>>108143860I went for a walk on the way to get groceries and saw these ducks. They all came over to me because they probably thought I had food, but I didn't have any. Now I feel bad for wasting their time and energy. I often see rabbits around, but didn't see any today.>>108142951There might be, but not this time of year I don't think.
>>108146749https://rosannaetc.com/post/whole-roast-duck/https://www.everyday-delicious.com/roasted-duck-with-apples/https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/108257/duck-with-honey-onions-and-ginger/
>>108146490>not a dev by trade,qrd
>>108146975brown hands typed that
>>108147202>brown handsNope, not even close.>just trying to help all these poorfag /twg/s out, don't want them to starve.
Do any of you listen to audiobooks / podcasts while you work? How do you do it? My coworker says he gets through 2-3 audiobooks per week while on the clock and I can't see how working on complex tasks while listening to an audiobook wont fry your brain in 30 minutes and tank your performance drastically
>>108147351why the fuck are you working on complex tasks? 90% of tasks are crudshit
>>108147361I mean I could just use a coding agent or something but I'd like to get better at programming while working
What are your thoughts on project managers?To me they seem superfluous, that all these meetings are junk and it would be more productive to put the effort into just making the product.
>>108147174I work in security>>108147351>Do any of you listen to audiobooks / podcasts while you work?I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my stuff, or in the story.
>>108147571>I work in securityyou are our enemy i hate you
>>108147571>I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my stuff, or in the storyExactly. Are some people just built different or do they not care about both their work and their book?
>>108146314ok but i keep getting money if i apply to jobs hehe
>>108147584I pentest your shit. I don't give a fuck about company policies, I just do my job and give your boss a report on shit to fix.>>108147588maybe people who have adhd and need to distract themselves every 10 mins or whatever, and don't really care about the book?
>>108147742Yeah that fits my coworker pretty well. He listens mostly to garbage by non-known internet writers.
>>108147571>I work in securityYou poor bastard. They don't listen, do they?>The Board: the trade show is coming up, you assholes better deliver!>finance: .. else ..>sales: two drink minumum>senior VP: release it now you idiots!>junior VP: but boss...>project manager: no>middle managers: need moar /twg/>data scientists: not my job anon>devops team leads: oh shit we forgot all about that>/twg/: open some ports>local IT: the contractor cut through WAT!?>img is (you) herding the retards
>>108139801*declines*
tfw someone drops an ebussy meme in the company slack
what languages does the federal government use??? I have a generic SWE screening interview on tuesday and they haven't even fucking told me shit about the job. It might be department of energy or health shit...???
realistically how hard is to setup your own MSP business. I've been a monkey slave in the techworld for a long time and know the ins and outs ?
>>108148183anyone? it's for the tech force
>>108147742>I just do my job and give your boss a report on shit to fix.you are the snitch fuck you
>>108148183Webshitter? Embedded? We don’t know what you do negro
>>108147811>You poor bastard. They don't listen, do they?oh, I don't care. I'm a offensive guy, an """ethical hacker""". it's not really my problem if they don't listen lmao. they sometimes come crying to me about how my shit will delay their projects or whatever, and I tell them to talk to my boss, risk management or whatever. idgaf about their shit.it's the best job I could ever have... though things have gotten worse lately, sadly.
enjoying the weekend, /twg/?
>>108149085im working because i like working
ETHERNET CABLE IS WORKING AGAIN A few days ago in one post I talked about my home internet trouble (Ethernet cable doesn't work and I loss 100% packages everytime) and today I found solution.How I found a bugAfter learning OSI model, which explains how internet works I started to check all OSI layers on my home, from L1 (physical) to L7 (Application)...It's didn't give me a results, and I started to use terminal commands, again. It's don't give me results over and over, but, when I check ping packages an idea came to me "maybe I have a configuration issue on router LAN-ports?".WiresharkAfter installing this app, I started to check next parameters on my router:• IP manipulation• ports parameters• cables working (IP-packages lvl)• IP-packages dublicates• CRC/ARP errorsBug was hidden in the "port parameters" & "cables working". It blocked traffic (IP-packages transfer error). Solution Step 1: Reset router LAN-portsStep 2: hardware rebootStep 3: speed synchronizationStep 4: cables working Step 5: connection rebootStep 6: router firmwareI did this!#Cybersecurity #CyberSecurityStudent #Wireshark #NetworkEngineering #EthicalHacking
>>108138379Depending on the commute and your situation, the amount fully remote saves you may easily make up the salary difference desu.
>>108149331That's fantastic news! Glad to hear your Ethernet cable is working again. Your systematic approach—checking OSI layers, using Wireshark, and inspecting router configurations—demonstrates a solid understanding of network troubleshooting. Resetting the LAN ports and verifying hardware and firmware updates are often overlooked but crucial steps. Thanks for sharing your detailed process; it can be really helpful for others facing similar issues. If you need further assistance or want to share more of your tech adventures, feel free to reach out!
>>10814908536 HOURS, ONE MINUTE, AND 16 SECONDS UNTIL YOU WAGEEEEEEEEEEE
>>108140523At least do some research before jumping to a particular language. Kotlin is much less popular than Java despite being newer. You know the saying: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>108149639>swift at the bottomhey thats me!!!!
>>108140523Have you done performance profiling to identify exactly what is taking the bulk of the time when you click a button and it takes seconds?I wouldn't try to change the language or even change a significant part of existing code until you are 100% sure why it is slow. There might be some very simple and easy things you can do to make it much faster.It doesn't matter if you like Java or not, they are paying you to make things better, and rewriting in a new language almost certainly won't achieve that unless you are a very high performer in both languages.
>>108148788why have things gotten worse?
someone bake please>>108150748bunch of people got fired for stupid reasons which made me warynew bosses want numbers and lines to go up, so they pressure us to work morenew bosses want to show off, so they get creative and ask us for shit that has nothing to do with our roles&c.I'm getting fucking tired of this company.
goodnight /twg/
>>108135873>What's your exit plan?I attained enlightenment.That should be your exit plan, too.
>>108152005>>108152005>>108152005>>108152005new