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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
NEW 5K27 MONITOR REVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tg1aVeKakE
The Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM prices
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Turing & Ampere significant performance hit, issues on ada & low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar is being reviewed
ARC B390 iGPU has some anons excited
Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ

Just reposting my comment for the new thread since I just made it in the other one.
>>108150370

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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while, deleting the OP img, etc..

>>108150389
I don't understand, why does redditt and this cesspit shill the 5070 ti/9070 xt as 4k gpus when the bottle neck calculator tells that these are 1440 gpus

should i ditch my portrait monitor and stick to a single 27'' monitor

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>>108150421
OP does not know. OP merely carries on with tradition.

>>108150433
Yes, you should do that instead of making larping shitposts.

>>108150389
repost:
>On ebay, here are your $800 options:
>>3090 with 24gb of vram
>>7900 xtx with 24gb of vram (new, but a return)

>>108150421
>bottle neck calculator
What are you referring to?

Those GPUs will easily hit 60 fps at 4k with or without DLSS

>>108150421
rtx 5070 4090 performance at 549

I bet you can get a 4090 on ebay for like $300.

>>108150456
What's your favorite way to cook a steak?

>>108150456
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1Dy1y4/core-ultra-9-285k/radeon-rx-9070-xt/3840x2160/

>intel XeSS 3 frame generation support just released for Arc-A/B cards
arcists keep winning

Does Newegg say what NEXT week's doorbuster deals are? Or do you have to wait until these ones are over?

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You can trust GPT because it recommends Intel instead of this Ryzen nonsense

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>>108150497
Well at least they are on the podium I guess.

>>108150503
Yes there is a subreddit for it.

>>108150507
people who buy reddit tryhard gpus like radeon and rtx don't leave their gaming chair and never get laid though

>>108150507
I'm a proud goy thoughbeit

>>108150522
>tryhard gpus like radeon and rtx

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>>108150389
Has anyone here ever had success with modding a tiny refrigerant compressor into a cooling system, either to push really cold air directly into the PC case or to work as a water chiller for a water cooling based system?

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>>108150515
>Yes there is a subreddit for it.
Mind linking it? I can't seem to find it.

I really, really regret not getting a 4090 when they came out. That is all.

Any reason not to buy a Zowie mouse? They look pretty good and simple.

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>>108150597
Nah fuck that.

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>>108150631
chinks copy the shapes of other makers and make mice that are just as good if not better than them now.

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>>108150631
Don't waste money on cheap shit console goods, anon. Your mouse and keyboard are part of your QoL in /pcbg/.

>>108150636
>Nah
kek the anon was regretfagging

>>108150631
>Zowie mouse
Super overpriced

All their shapes have been cloned and made lightweight by other brands

>>108150421
I too was wondering. Even my 4090 leaves to be desired in 4k. Fake frames are not real performance.

>>108150456
> 60 fps at 4k
Not even nearly what a gamer demands in times of 240Hz 4k displays.

>>108150631
>>108150651
i also don't owe any company anything. they should fuck each other over. i don't mind. i just want a cheap mouse with a good shape and minimal software spyware. zowie is one of those companies that stopped innovating and making their mice better which allowed logitech to take over.

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>>108150597

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>>108150664
>Fake frames are not real performance.
If you're a /gaymer/, sure. What if you want to drive pic related, what card would you spec for the system?

>>108150679
you won't reach 240hz raster. the rest is FG

>32 inch 1440p

Will buying this be a mistake?

i want a 4-6TB hdd for media archive
What i buy before AI ghouls fuck me in the ass?

>>108150389
I just finished my first build, took me 6 to 7 hours, you motherfuckers told me it's eazy, it's not, and the main reason it's not is because you're worried the whole time that you're damaging a component. It did feel good when it finally ran though and I was able to play hfw: burning shores at 120 fps. My laptop was running it at 25 fps lol.

>>108150722
yes dude, you already know the answer to that. just make the jump to 4k, it's so superior in every regard and especially when you're at 32 inches

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>>108150742
>just finished my first build

>>108150660
>made lightweight
Meaning made cheaper and flimsier, gotcha.

>>108150782
>boomer thinks its 2003 where people add weights to their mouse

lol suit yourself buy the heaviest car while you're at it

>>108150797
No I'm a boomer that for some crazy reason thinks this is still /g/ and not /jeet/ and that people here still know the difference between a good mouse and a cheap mouse, and it's not what fucking injection mold they used.

Still mad I fucked myself out of that 9850x3d.

>>108150782
>weight = quality
try out a superlight. they are basically everywhere and are well made. except for the buttons and scroll wheel. that's why you shouldn't buy those. but the shape is very sturdy but weighs like under 65g.

>>108150742
how quick people can allegedly build a pc is like trusting self reported dong sizes

>>108150742
It's like when people talk about how fast you can change your car oil, or how quick you can brown an whole onion. It's mostly people who have no sense of time. Like the people who say "oh it will just be five minutes" and then it's thirty.
I'd still say it's "easy", but it's also easy to break something so like you said you get super nervous and start taking your time. Which is good because it'd be a real shame to suddenly have a several hundred dollar paper weight.

>>108150742
it's obviously gonna take longer for a first timer compared to someone who done it so many times they can just autopilot the whole process in one hour

>>108150421
because (((he))) believes doing 4k from 480i with goyscaling is real magic and no different from native

>>108150897
modern devs make gayms with DLSS and FG in mind, unfortunately.

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>watching pc build channels
>this guy shows up

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>>108150897
>is real magic
To the unwashed masses of anons, it is.

>>108150782
https://youtu.be/wb3np1q1Fik

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Gemini called my new build a "power house" and made me feel good about my choices.

I don't even know why I come here when you guys are just mean to me and call me retarded.

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>>108150949
Though, Gemini has no clue what ram costs right now.

I managed to do this build for slightly under $1900USD.
But I did a lot of deal hunting.

>>108150742
You might be retarded. My first build did not take me that long. Honestly, 6 to 7 hours yeah you're actually just beyond retarded. Genuinely.

>>108150949
the average gpu of a steam user is a steam is like a 3060

comparing yourself to updooters on reddit and perpetually unsatisfied psychos here is not the play lmao

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>>108150949
it's over...

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>>108150996
i am losing jope...

>>108150996
>ai immediately shitting on the asus prime motherboard
based

>>108150949
>case
>heatsink
I haven't gotten either and I've been wanting these two. Been kind of hoping the Meshify 3 goes on sale, but doubt that will happen soon.

i know hes probably doing it as a joke but do you believe theres people out there unironically relying on ai for real advise?
>tell me ai-san, how do i buld a pc out of legos?

>>108151059
i did mine as a joke. the pc sits right next to me and works just fine.

>>108151059
There are even people using AI for emotional support so...

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>>108151059
>do you believe theres people out there unironically relying on ai for
anon it's 2026 already.

>>108151068
Yeah, but the "ai features" are reaaaaally loooowwwww in quality. People will buy ai features that actually work (help them out).

>>108151065
is this what the lack of quake did to the new generations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XK5-n4rR7Q
>>108151068
yeah i had that exact article in mind when i typed that, yet they keep on doing it

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Here's your new CPU bro

>>108150996
Always remember it's only parroting redditors!

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>>108151082
>yet they keep on doing it
kek all PC vendors made a commitment to localized ai features and it turned out to be a shitty deal because of the bloatware than win11 is. All the real AI stuff is happening outside of /pcbg/, plenty of fa/g/gots modeling boob physics, with the real money in the datacenters.

>>108150732
> 4-6TB hdd
Makes no sense nowadays. Get a larger capacity helium filled HDD of 20+TB.
Or a 4TB SSD.

>>108150710
Since the display is probably just 60Hz and no particular 3D rendering is required, almost any modern card with enough frame buffer to hold the pixels would be sufficient.

I want a mouse that has a thumbrest shape, durable scroll wheel and buttons, and preferably at least 2 side buttons, without being a big chonk like a G502. I'm used to this weight but would be nice to try something lighter. What models of "mediumweight" mice are out there?

>>108151138
and they cost +100% the price retard

>>108151138
So helium is 20TB+ only?
Any suggestions? I'm scared something that large will fail

>>108151175
are you seriously listening to that? Anything will just work as HDD goes for media storage

>>108150732
If you're going to use it for cold storage, an external will be fine. Really that's what they're best at. Sure it will most likely be SMR, and even if it is CMR they're the HDDs that didn't make the cut to sell as a normal internal, but as long as you aren't trying to run it 24/7 it should be fine. Just make sure you buy an extra as a backup.
I think some places have a Seagate Expansion 8tb for $150.

>>108151213
But of course don't run gamez off external.

>>108151235
Or anything really. Don't even run video files off of them unless you just need to check you're grabbing the right one.

where were you wen local pc die
i was on shitter wen pcbg call
'pcs are kill'
'no'

>>108151175
smaller capacities like 14tb can be helium filled
helium just makes the drive run cooler and quieter and larger drives are just more economical

>>108150732
>>108151138
>anything more than 1TB

who needs all that space lmao

>>108151281
>t. owns nothing

>>108151281
Your mom so she can fit a picture of herself on it lmao.

>>108151291
>t. digital trash hoarder

I will own my trash, and I will be happy.

after trying to decide for weeks what to buy and lurking in this thread ive come to the conclusion no matter what i buy it's going to be shit

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>>108151332
take the 9850x3d+96gb ddr5+5090 on credit pill

>>108151345
good advice but you should get a loan then gamble with the money so you’re not in debt

>>108151345
i was going to buy a xfx 9070 RX-97TSWF3B9 with a be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750W
to have some more vram but its absolutely pointless

there is not a single product that has good reputation, one site praises it the next one says its not the best for the price
one person here says its great the other says its r*ddit shill
its impossible to make a decision or make a good purchase

>>108150949
I see you bought top of the line CPU and midrange GPU.
What a poor choice, did you get advice here from waitfags and poorfags?

>>108151281
gaemz are huge

did u see the last mlid video? it was pretty good
it's really sad that intel is killing of their GPUs, because going full linux I am condemned to either full AMD cpu+gpu or full Intel and if Intel started making good gpus, I'd try them, I guess I'll have to suffer with AMD forever now
I'm excited for Razor Lake, the last gen before they switch to nvidia igpus, I think it'll be a great generation to upgrade home server hardware, get an APU for the servers, ECC DDR5, a few W1080 motherboards
I think the Xe3P igpu will be relevant for more than a decade

>>108151429
The only thing missing on linux if using nvidia is hardware acceleration in VM and OC (if using wayland; can still power limit but not boost memory clock). gou passthrough works but you need to allicate the whole gpu, can’t do it partially
>mlid
nigga pls

MLiD? More like MiD lmao.

>>108151364
buy a hellhound. fan curve from the xfx is ass. unless you wanna tune it yourself ofc.

>>108151364
>>108151810
the xfx has the heavier cooler but the hellhound has an extra heatpipe and a non retarded fan curve that doesn't depends on the junction temp (which is very high on most cards anyways).

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Found something online
-Asrock Z690 Taichi Mobo
-i7 14700f
-Deepcool Ak 400pro with a digital display, some fancy shit
-Teamgroup Delta Rgb 2x32 Gb Ddr5 6000 Mhz
-Nvm2 Xpg Spectrix S40g 1 Tb Rgb
-Gigabyte G750h 80 Plus Gold 750w Psu
I'd be swapping the 750W PSU for my EVGA 850W to install a 3090 Ti. The guy wants $1K, should I go for it?

>>108151810
>>108151862
this is exactly what i meant
you just cant win

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>>108152055
got a swift.

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INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD LOST

>>108152236
I'm not fucking buying an Intel gpu bro

>>108152243
I would for extra monitors, but that's about it.

>>108150631
there is no reason to buy anything other than pro x2 superstrike
logitech won

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>>108152273
Did they make any real improvident to the scroll wheel?

>>108152329
I don't know just consoom ask questions later

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R8 my upgrade?

previous:
>i5-4690k
>1060 6gb
>16gigs of ddr3 1600mhz

>EU - Hungary btw

The gpu and the psu is the only brand new component from retail.
Had another kioxia nvme lying around that i put in the pc (1tb)

I seem to have won the silicon lottery on the video card , managed to get it to run 3120mhz +1700 on ramclock with only 950Mv curve lock and it never goes above 55c, tested in multiple games stable 1%lows

CPU curve optimized -20 in the negative cuz i don't like the sudden spikes of ryzen. ( no performance lost)

Ram manually overclocked to 6000mhz, cl 32 had to play around a lot with this because it defaulted to jdec 4800mhz and the expo profile would not boot. multiple stability tests and an all nighter of ycruncher came back no errors.

r8? I had future proofing in mind when putting it together with best price to performance ratio

>>108152535
just out of curiosity why overclock
what is so demanding that you need to do it?

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Is a Kingston NV3 2TB Nvme a good deal for $100 right now? It's used but it only has like 1700GB total writes and 80 hours of power on-time. I'm seeing if I can haggle the guy down to $85.

>>108152590
I like to get the maximum out of what i pay for, wouldn't you?

It's stable, temps are still in the lower charts, and going from 4800 to 6000 IS noticable.
Plus this way i won't have to oc when something demanding comes because i have already done it

>>108152656
you did not answer the question

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I've been getting artifacts like these in games for the past 4 months
I tried uninstalling all windows updates all the way to 2023 when i built the PC (didn't even had that many because I use simplewall firewall)
Has a higher chance of happening when the memory usage is higher than normal I think

specs:
6700 xt
Ryzen 5600
16GB ram XPG
Windows 11
I also havent cleaned the inside of my PC since 2023 if that matters

I used to get weird green artifacts before but now I almost never get those anymore just these.

thoughts?

>>108152623
>used ssd

lmao

>>108150742
Tbh, the biggest factor in how long it takes to put together a PC is the case.
Shitty cases add literal hours.

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>>108152535
The vertex is still on sale.

>>108152731
How close are you to ram/vram limits?

>>108152703

I did?
I like to get the maximum out of my system.
nothing, but this will even if i do i will have already done all i can do make it run as smooth as possible.

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retailer putting up ddr5 ram sales discounts, the drought is over, it's peaked

>>108152900
50 percent off a 600 percent price hike isn't "over."

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>>108152814
picrel
ram usually 75-90%
vram not even close to hitting the limit. its got 12gb of vram.

>>108152900
>The most basic set of 64gb DDR5 ram is $600 at the least
Yeah, it's over alright.

>>108152916
Are you having problems in more than one game, any crashes?

>>108152236
seriously how has AMD not figured out multi frame generation yet what are they even doing over there

Nvidia is moving onto dynamic MFG where frames are generated only when needed and Intel now have multi frame generation too but AMD still has basic bitch shit which even shitass lossless scaling beats

FUCKING EMBARRASSING SHIT

>>108152236
Arrow Lake got Multi Frame Generation before Radeon graphics cards wtf lol bbq

>>108152924
yeah dota, elden ring etc
>crashes?
no

>>108152925
Because Idiots still scream Raster! and VRAM! at the top of their lungs when the software ship already sailed. Theirs a reason we have salty AMD users here.

>>108152922
6000c30 64gb sale for 600€ when it waas 900€
the peak has been hit
they are despearet
0 ram sales

>>108152935
Hmm. Well my 980ti started artifacting before it exploded. You could try a clean install since windows is a mess. I'm sure you already tried DDU.16gb RAM is not much when running windows 11.

>>108152941
>they are desperate
>0 ram sales
That's fine because they stopped making RAM. No one gives a shit about consumer grade anymore.

>>108152941
Do you have at least 5080 before splunging on such expensive RAM

>>108152925
amd's software team is literally in india and they have a skill issue
meanwhile intel and nvidia have chinks/aryans designing and writing their software

>>108151382
I got the 9850X3D for like 300$. No reason not to get it.

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Jesus Christ I never knew exactly how much of a housefire GCN GPUs from AMD were, but now I can totally see how this card got artifacting a few years into the hot summers of the mid-2010s on default fan curves.

Either cooler and fan design or mounting got better since somehow or these old chips were that much of a furnace even with a 250W TDP, which is likely far below the actual power draw which there is no sensor for. I'd have to ramp the fan speed to 100% for it to not hit 80c in a midi mesh case with 20c ambient room temperature.

>>108152994
>5080
the only way to not get cucked is buy a 5090
2 more years left until 6090
it's over
I will wait
I wont build a pc I guess
for now

>>108153020
my reference blower hd7950 died 3.5 years in. it also always ran in the 80s under load

>>108153020
Open loop calls. 600w components are of no concern.

>>108150949
Yes, and I’m sure your questions are all really “insightful” and get “right to the point.”

The sad fact is people are going to read generated AI outputs and just accept what they say despite the fact that these models are black boxes created by corporations and designed to encourage your engagement. This is the world we are entering.

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>>108153020
the cooler is just bad
my 5090 doesnt pass 80C when allowed to pull 800W

>>108153129
ROG MATRIX
DAMN SHOW THE BUILD NIGGA STUNT

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>>108151382
Isn't the 5070Ti like the 4th best card on the market right now?

The 5080 is like $1500 right now. While you can get the 5070Ti for like $750.

Really doesn't seem worth it for 9 FPS. 90$ per 1 FPS feels like a shit deal.

>>108153290
>While you can get the 5070Ti for like $750.
Source?

>>108153290
These days It's
>5090 > 5080 > 4090 > 5070Ti > 4080 Supa > 4080 > 5070 > 9070XT > 5060Ti > etc.
DLSS has reshuffled the deck a bit.

>>108153317
Be careful, you are going to summon him.

>>108153339
Even then I'll admit I'm not entirely certain about the 5080 vs 4090 tiering.
I think the 5080 gets better FPS in some games but not others, and it overclocks really well that gives it an edge sometimes. But, the 4090 obviously has a shitload more VRAM and is better for everything else. (Also many times more expensive).

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>>108153290
>While you can get the 5070Ti for like $750.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>108153372
MSRP 4090 was the best. We just didn't know.

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>>108153375
Skill issue.

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TELL ME MORE ABOUT 2025

>>108153372
a balls to wall OCd 5080 barely matches a bone stock 4090 so the 4090 is still ahead

>>108153300
>Source?
2025
Got a time machine? MUH SKILL ISSSUE

>>108153412
Just turn on MFG 3x

>>108153395
I bought 64gb of Ram for $200 in December. Those days are gone.

>>108153425
If MFG counts, the 5060ti with 6x MFG should beat a 4090

>>108153395
>Dec 30 2025

>>108153405
Nice one Chris.

>>108153436
>5060ti effortlessly breezes through the entire amd line up
>soon intel will do the same with their igpu
It's so over amd bros.

>>108153405
>>108153427
>>108153437
>December 30th was only a month ago
Times are changing fast.

>>108153473
That order is 47 days old, you fucking sicko.

>>108153395
>Gone up $300 in just barely a month
Life sucks bros.

>>108153514
This is just the beginning.

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>>108153412
Sometimes.

>>108153543
Delete this

>>108153543
>le cherry picked graph

>>108153543
It is kind of a shame that the newest technological leap in gaming that can bring cards down to their knees, is just fancy lighting that barely looks better than baked lighting from ages ago.

>>108153571
I wish games would implement more things like transparency and refraction, ray tracing that baked lighting can't easily emulate. But alas, just more glass panes and water puddles.

>>108153571
Path tracing is amazing in Cyberpunk, it would be impossible with baked.

>>108153560
Nigger I said "Sometimes"
The fuck do you think "Sometimes" means if not
"Some of the times, like this very specific example"?

>The RTX 5070 Ti is slightly behind AMD’s RX 9070 XT in raw raster performance in many titles — but it compensates with NVIDIA’s DLSS 4 + AI features, which can significantly boost effective framerate in supported games.
>If your priority is highest raw FPS in raster/AMD-favored titles, RX 9070 XT edges ahead.
Is ChatGPT right?

>>108153701
Not really. It's pretty even footing in raster. But, realisticaly any new games or even games released in the past 5 years which are going to challenge your GPU are going to be using DLSS, Raytracing or some form of software which will put the 5070Ti ahead.
Nobody is buying a 5070Ti and turning settings off so they can "Get a full raster experience".

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>>108153701
>>108153709

>>108153709
People are buying a 5070ti so they can get raped in Linux & FreeBSD.

>>108153738
From the united states?
What shithole are you living in?

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Is this a decent deal? 64gb ram, laptop 4090, 2tb ssd, mini LED.

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Need to replace my Dell Latitude 5500 keyboard (several keys do not work, one keycap is missing).
Will all of these fit?
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005007429696819.html?sku_id=12000040724591926
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005009122781871.html?sku_id=12000047993212149
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005009701885360.html
I don't care for backlight and pointer but I'd rather have a key between shift and z and vertical enter button. So i want to go with the UK one

>>108153822
>14900hx
that has the same raptorlake silicon as the desktop ones that degrade

>>108153822
if you dont need a laptop build a desktop

>>108153842
Damn

>>108153849
I already have that.

>>108153855
then you dont need a gaymen laptop

>>108153829
there's also this one
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005007349589804.html?sku_id=12000040370809847
i problably do need the "mouse" buttons since they are part of my current keyboard

>>108153738
5070Ti still worth it over a 9070 XhiTty

>>108152731
sagging gpu

man i really regret getting 9070XT

>>108153945
why

>>108153967
bad drivers, FOMO over DLSS 4.5, FSR just looks kind of crap after seeing DLSS, the ray tracing sucks, no path tracing...

>>108154020
Do you not want to play the latest CoD?
It supports redstone you know.

>>108154020
dlss has been fomo for about 5 years now

>>108154020
And the inevitable unsupported MFG, only to be added in 10070xt/x1070xt.

>>108153967
i dunno just hurts knowing if I got a 5070ti it would be worth 500 more than what i paid for it as opposed to the 9070xt being worth only 100 more. I'm also realizing it's true no one values amdcrap and in a few years if i want to sell it's going to hold it's value far less than the 5070ti.

Then there's the usabilty the card is pretty much worse in all respect but the most massive is it's comparatively non-existent AI support, especially on Windows. And much less AI capability. I haven't done anything with AI yet, but that is also because when I wanted to I was told "oops yeah there's no support of AMD with AI for what I wanted to use it for on windows only on Linux"

Oh yeah can't forget about last month when dlss 4.5 dropped

and then you complain about nico

>>108154020
>FOMO over DLSS 4.5
So many 9070XT buyers heats sank when DLSS 4.5 dropped lol. That shit finally convinced me to install the nvidia app.

>>108154124
you have to be pretty ignorant in general if you dont install nvidia app when it came out
It has video rtx and game filters and replaces a lot of the old ncp stuff

I feel like some case and cooler reviews from people here are better than they actually seem because it's winter and so like 19-21c in their rooms.

>>108154141
Only people who produce numbers and graphs use temp control environments

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I'm perfectly content with my 9070xt. Though if the industry keeps pushing further and further towards Nvidia only shit and AMD decides to just not keep up, I guess I'll have to jump ship. Hopefully by then GPUs will have gone down to relatively normal prices. No way in hell am I paying more than $800 for a GPU.

>>108153290
>Isn't the 5070Ti like the 4th best card on the market right now?
lol this is funny considering that it doesn't even beat the 4080/4080 super in many situations, so the pecking order in terms of consoomer GPU's is still RTX Pro 6000 >= 5090 > 4090 > power gap > 5080 > 4080 Super > 4080 and only then > 5070 Ti > 4070 Ti Super > power gap > 5070/4070 Ti/4070 Super/3090 Ti/3090 > 3080 Ti > power gap > 3080 > power gap > 5060 Ti/4060 Ti/3060 Ti > power gap > 3060 > power gap > everything else

>>108154154
They should start testing cases in 30-40c ambient temperatures in benchmarks for more real-world performance. Cases should be bought today with global warming in mind. The last decade has been nothing but heatwaves, and most people don't have air conditioning.

>>108153867
I work 14 hours a day and have down time at work. It sucks being away from my PC.

>>108154208
just use your phone wagie
gaming at work?

>>108154217
I sit around waiting for something to break down about half the 14 hours.

>>108154222
you should tell the union about inhumane working conditions

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How do I free myself from dependency hell on HDD bays and ODD bays? I got what I got, no changing it now.
>5.25" optical drive
>two 3.5" card reader/USB drives
>14TB HDD, 14TB HDD (backup), 3TB HDD, 2TB HDD, 1TB HDD
>512GB NVME SSD, 256GB M.2 SSD, 512GB SATA SSD, 512GB SATA SSD, 128GB SATA SSD
This makes buying a new case for my daily driver today really fucking annoying because I have to compromise between storage options and expansion (this caps my storage), airflow (this caps how powerful I can make my computer), and noise profile (how much rattle from the HDD and fans).

I've been trying to downsize and churn out shit I don't need and limit myself to two 2.5 SSD's, the two M.2 SSD's I got, use PWM fans instead with a hub instead of manual 3-step DC fans, and 1 or 2 HDD's since it's the biggest I got but I still can't help myself. I probably should use a separate USB card reader or just dangle the naked optical drive when I sporadically need it or use a one-size fits all USB dongle for the card reader but the convenience (and speed) is something I'm too used to, a computer always had that stuff integrated for me.

But I still want to modernize instead of being stuck in 2014-2019 with legacy stuff. My brain still thinks a big tower or a HAF is the pinnacle of case design instead of an elegant wind tunnel. Never tried an LED fan either.

>>108154224
They don't care. We are so short they just need someone present in case something happens. Still sucks and is tiring. I hate laptops but they do look reasonable on occasion.

>>108154179
Why should I listen to the random say so of someone who types like a brain damaged preteen, though?

>>108150389
>built rig from spare parts
>B450 shitter board that works
>2700X
>32gigs of DDR4 pilfered from work
>250gig 970EVO
>decent 1000w psu but from 2019
>PNY 3080 that was essentially free

Essentially no idea what to do with it currently since bit too power hungry to be a living room HTPC rig. Should i attempt grab a 5600X since 5700/5800 are more expensive than AM5 stuff or sell it as is?

Are there any other sites that do things similar to Newegg's Weekend Doorbuster deals?

Any updated PSU tier list?

>>108154250
you know what they say, if a business needs employees to work 14h days to stay afloat then its a job for brown people

>>108154330
I wish. Even brown people aren't dumb enough to do my job.

>>108154329
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078

What if I buy two broken 5090 for $500 and put them together?

>>108154434
You'd have two broken 5090s.

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A 5090 for 1500$ and the seller has no reviews?
Would could possibly go wrong.

>>108154497
Collect in person, go armed with two buddies.

when will the guy from toms hardware review new cpu coolers? the frost tower 140 is out there I'm sure it has to be better than the royal pretor 130 ultra, but I need the data

>>108150389
Anyone know any horizontal full ATX cases? Besides the giant glass one from be quiet or whatever company
I really prefer the horizontal design because of card sag, and I just always preferred it.
I really love Corsair air 540 turned sideways. Or the HAF cube case

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it's insane how there's literally no reason to buy any nvidia 50 series card
>retardedly expensive
>only 3 models have 16+ vram
>can't do path tracing at all, will be made completely obsolete in only 2 years
the 5080 might be the worst gpu purchase ever, imagine people's face when it chugs to 20 fps in path traced games coming out next year

Do AMD Radeon drivers give your Windows computer AIDS forcing you to reinstall or can I wipe them clean with DDU? I remember something but I don't remember if it was shitposting or not.

>>108154537
And yet >>108150922 - everybody but (you) buys them, shillanon.

the difference between 30 fps and 7 is zero, nothing, nada
both are unplayable shit
oh wait, there's a difference
the 30 fps card costs 6 times more than the 7 fps card lmao, for the same results

>>108154578
Like OP said in their pic, just don't be /poor/.

>>108154585
the one thing rich people do over poor people is not wasting money, you get rich with the money you save, not with the money you throw away, learned that in class years ago from a professor, never forgot

>>108154248
Spend more money to consolidate and stop living in the past. 1 big HDD, as many NVME as possible (too late now prices are quadrupled) and then use an external dock for backups or long term storage that you don't access.

or make a NAS and throw all your old drives in the old PC.

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>>108150389
>tfw winning an ebay auction that I'd rather not be.

>>108154597
Even us "rich" people do stupid stuff like leaving the pizza out of the fridge last night
Now I wasted $18 for 2 pizzas I only ate 2/3rd of one pizza

I am sad this morning to have witnessed my stupidity :(

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Is this a good deal for a 5090?

>>108154641
buy the box, put a bunch of rocks in it, sell it back, you just made $2980

>9070xt is great value for money and amd is (perceivably) slightly less evil than nvidia, also 3x8 pin 9070xt doesn't get melty and works great on linux
>BUT somehow 9070xt only has dp2.1 UHBR13.5, which is only ~50gb/s and not enough for 4K native without compression
>FORCED to get a 5070ti instead

>>108154619
Give me the link and I'll bid higher

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>>108154701

>>108154701
>somehow 9070xt only has dp2.1 UHBR13.5, which is only ~50gb/s and not enough for 4K native without compression
Chat is this true?

>>108154721
Yes, AMD used UHBR13.5 instead of UHBR20

>>108154718
you understand what maximum means right?

>>108154718
80gb/s is dp2.1 UHBR20 as on nshitia cards
amgay has UHBR13.5, which is less than that

>>108154740
yeah, it means just dont use a fucking 10 meters long cable and you'll reach it

>>108154750
Nigga the port itself is limited to UHBR13.5

>>108154743
lest we forget the 40 series snubbing dp2.1 altogether

>>108154721
>>108154738
>>108154743
>>108154760
So not recommended for 4k image or video content creation and editing then? Need to know for sure so I can recommend accordingly.

>>108154760
it's enough to drive 4k 240hz, which no card can reach in any new game anyway

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>>108154777
it just means your display output is more limited

>>108154782
not without compression

>>108154738
>>108154740
though I just read, that UHBR13.5 is just enough for 4K@160hz to keep dsc off, but will be insufficient for 4k@240hz

does anybody know if it will reliably stay off at 160hz? Hardly any modern game will be above 160 fps anyway. Or am I getting things mixed up between fps and hz?

>>108154777
4k 60 uses like 12gb/s bandwidth, 4k 120, 25 gb/s
dp 2.1a goes all the way to 53 gb/s

>>108154809
thank that is helpful
but what do I do with a 4k@240Hz Monitor with a 9070xt?
Can I just run that thing at 160Hz or something like that? Can I even chose that?

>>108154868
yes you can lower the refresh rate to whatever you want
it may require creating custom resolution presets though
or you can just use display stream compression

Those Newegg deals today were absolutely trash. Holy shit it's sad.

>>108154892
>or you can just use display stream compression
that's exactly what I want to avoid for 4K visual content creation

>managed to get a 9850X3D from the Newegg Doorbuster deal yesterday
>wanted to see if I could find new week's Doorbuster deals
>google "newegg doorbuster deal next week"
>see dozens of reddit threads complaining about "bots" buying all the 9850X3D in under 1 minute
Sucks to suck, retards.

That said, anyone know where I can find next week's newegg deals?

>>108154979
You can only see daily midnight deals and the weekend stuff doesn't show up until 24 hours before
I'm the same anon you gave you the tip the first time

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Got this installed last night. Easily cleared the space despite doubts. Curiosity if I could have fit their biggest one. Not enough to try though.

>>108154986
Ah, okay. Thank you.
Guess this anon >>108150515 is lying.

>>108154977
>use display stream compression
>that's exactly what I want to avoid for 4K visual content creation
Indeed.

>>108154979
>anyone know where I can find next week's newegg deals

>>108150515
>Yes there is a subreddit for it.

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>>108155005
>lying
On 4chan?

>>108155008
>Yes there is a subreddit for it.
Then link it.

>>108150497
Sad.

>>108154977
You will quite literally never be able to tell the difference.

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How do I install an SSD bay in to this PC? There is a little hole that say SSD but there doesnt appear to be any other holes for the other screw. This is at the bottom of the PC.
Is the bay just supposed to hang down slanted since it's screwed in at just one place? Probably not

>>108154224
>inhumane
jesus christ you are a child. Do you know what “on call” means? fucking child talking about computers on an Internet forum.

>>108155031
Yep. Let tards be tarded.

>>108155039
Haha, are you building a carpet?
You're just asking to damage your parts before you even finish.

>>108154994
hate active cooling stuff with tiny fans

What is the current ram situation like?

>>108155055
Yep I had an old MB with little fans. Loud as shit.

>>108155064
yeah, they make ssd coolers with huge finstacks and 1 or 2 heat pipes and no fans, that should be enough to cool them

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>>108155072
That'll be my secondary whenever I get to it.

>>108155103
thermalright makes those too, probably pretty cheap

>>108155039
what does the back side of the case look like

Does using an AIO even do all that much?
Will it make the CPU last longer because it keeps it cooler?

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>>108155113
Too big and silly.

>>108155152
I went open loop. Extreme temp fluxes aren't good for solder and silicone. I need my stuff to last 5 more years of constant use.

>>108155152
They're quieter and (generally) able to handle higher thermal loads.
At the cost of being more mechanically complex, expensive and taking up more space.

There's some nice fan coolers though, and some terrible AIOs. It's pretty hard to choose between them.

>>108155076
Uh oh :(

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>>108155103
>>108155164
kek retards who buy stuff like that when a six dollar heatsink does the job just as well.

>>108155203
no it doesn't

>>108155203
arctic sent me one of those for free and I still refuse to use it

>>108155152
>Does using an AIO even do all that much?
>Will it make the CPU last longer because it keeps it cooler?
Any system you build can keep the CPU cool whether you use an air cooler or water cooling. It comes down to personal preference. I used only air for many years and decided to see if the AIO stuff was a meme or not because I had not used water cooling in a very long time. It works well for my use case though I am sure that I could have been happy with air cooling as well.

>>108154977
why do you need a 240Hz 4K monitor for content creation in the first place? Anything above 60Hz is for gaming.

>>108155229
scrubbing through a video is in fact much nicer at high refresh rate

>>108155229
he's a retard

>>108155209
lol are you a pro video editor?
you won't notice perf diff between Gen 4 and 5 just downgrade the NVME lanes and enjoy cooler temps

such fearmongering bullshit with you retards min maxing on your NVME

a motherboard heatsink with good airflow will dissipate the heat just fine for moderate writes
If you're doing sequential writes for minutes at a time (20+) then yeah no fucking shit

>>108155267
a good one costs less than 10 bucks

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>>108155203
>>108155164
>>108155103
Pathetic. Get on my level.

>>108154614
>1 big HDD
I can do it I think, but I'll have to fit my SSD's in somehow. Realistically in daily use I will prioritize cool and quiet operation, even with something like a 5070 and 5800X w/ a PS120.

Cases like the Frame 4000D seem like they're among the best value wind tunnel chassis for the money right now, but I'm concerned about the lack of something like a closed side panel which I would install foam onto, or dampening for the HDD cage. Though I could also perhaps just mod an old Cooler Master case, like the HAF for the same cost and get the same performance while maintaining similar compatibility, though that would take time I might not have to waste like I used to.

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>>108155203

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Asrock bros, are you updooting your BIOS today?

My NVME SSD goes up to 46c in my hotbox during stress testing even though it isn't being loaded, should I buy a heatsink?

>>108155298
see
>>108154994
>>108155103
>>108155164
>>108155203
>>108155280

>>108155278
My NVMEs are underneath my heatsink and GPU
Can't do shit about it

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>>108155129
Like this

>>108155039
remove the gpu the hole will be there

>>108155283
I gotch u senpai
1 5.25
2 HDD spaces

But you will need to buy a lot of 140mm fans if you want quiet plus cool

Ymmv
But if you change your mind this can become an easy unraid server case

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/?using=dyLwrH

Looking for some recommendations for a Motherboard. Looking at a DDR4 1700 board since I already have 32g of DDR4 Ram. A 12000kf seems the way to currently go. I'm in the U.S and budget isn't as much a concern since the majority of boards seem to be in comparable ranges. Managed to snag a good deal on an 850w psu for them. Have a 4070 12gb graphics card.

>>108155370
sorry the condition is fatal

>>108155370
He meant the back side of the horizontal
I.e. the other side of your first pic
Whe the cable management usually
Not the "rear" of your PC

>at risk of being homeless
>5070 ti build might get thrown out by landlord if i can't pay

help

>>108155472
suck cock if you're a fag, if you're straight, apply to ICE.

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>>108155411
Thank anon.
>pic
Man. Sometimes I get the impression my tinkering high school/university student phase since 2019 is the root of all problems, because I'm fairly certain I have spent way more money than this (several times) only to wind up with a heap of mediocre but "good value" parts from their time period only for them to not wind up with something that is nowhere near as nice as even this. Never tasted the creature comforts of AIOs, RGBs, full-tower size high airflow, high capacity NVME SSD's, rubber grommets, and so on even though I could have afforded it.
>But you will need to buy a lot of 140mm fans
I've been doing a lot of research into those since I have an old one from some no-name brand and it does well, I was going to have a look at be quiet's offerings to see how they stack up against Arctic in terms of how they sound but haven't pulled the trigger yet with my ongoing case situation.

I'll have a look at this list, I don't use PC Part Picker enough all these years to see what other people are building. Pretty much learned everything on my own.

>>108155475
I am highly employable.

I can build computers, that means something, surely.

>buying GSkill RAM
Told you I regret nothing buying Corsair and Crucial for the last 2 decades

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/you-can-now-file-your-g-skill-class-action-claim-to-get-a-cut-of-the-usd2-4-million-settlement-deceptive-marketing-class-action-now-accepting-payout-submissions

>>108155477
That pic is not the XL
that person is an idiot
It's a normal Define 7 not the XL version bc there's no bottom shrou
Always YouTube and pcpartpicker
Monkey see monkey do
You learn a lot more and prevent mistakes from seeing others and seeing things in scale

>>108155496
>no name brand gets big money because of rgb craze

yeah no wonder they seemed odd

Are things getting better, bros?
Will I be able to upgrade my shitty 5600g, 16gigs ram pc in the next 1-2 years?

>>108155521
not upgrading anything until 2028 at least, maybe 2029 or 2030 even

>>108155229
>why do you need a 240Hz 4K monitor for content creation in the first place? Anything above 60Hz is for gaming.
find me a non 240 Hz QD-OLED of gen3+
it has to be QD-OLED, because those have the best visual quality, right?

>>108155521
Sorry fran.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sandisk-rides-ai-memory-supercycle-130917859.html

>>108155496
I'm gonna be honest, I kind of wish I took the pill on some Corsair and be quiet! or Noctua products sooner, though Corsair doesn't have that tasty purple grape jet black taste to it that they quite did with stuff like their keyboards, AIO, fans and whatnot and I hate bloat. I kind of understand why they became popular brands even if they weren't always making the best products for the money.

Oh and buying more Crucial and Sammy SSDs, though I hear Patriot had the best chances of DDR4 with Samsung b-die.

start saving money and in 2029 we'll all be on zen 7 + rdna6 for linux chads and nvidia gpu for spyware11: good goy edition users

>>108155428
There are very few new options. Unfortunately.

>>108155530
>>108155541
fvark... more time to save for better hardware I guess

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>>108155463
>>108155448
>>108155395
I figured it out, I missed that it's on the bottom that has a space sectioned out with 4 holes, one section says SSD and one says HDD. I still don't understand the marking for SSD on the side (the back apparently) however.

>>108155633
Read the manual
I bet a toolless hand screw mounting plate goes there after you mount the plate with 4 screws to the 2.5" SSD

>>108155652
>>108155633
Oh and next time post the damn make and model so some of us can read the manual and make you feel silly

>>108155512
>>108155477
having built a nas in a define 7 xl the hdd mounting is serviceable but not the greatest
protip if you are going to buy multiple of the extra hdd trays from newegg try making an offer in the $12-$14 range

>>108155652
>>108155662
Agiler C011

If you can manage to find a manual please share, cause the case didn't come with one either.

>>108155694
No online manual
Not to judge but I hope you got a cheap deal because buying a combo case with PSU was a bad idea
And the price I hope I saw online was in a foreign currency other than USD bc you got ripped off if paid for that
Sorry, it's supposed to come with physical manual but I cannot find an online PDF after visiting 3 different websites and trying Gemini AI search

But people that didn't upgrade last year especially in november/december when it was getting crazy why did you wait?

>>108150597
now immortalized in the annals of /pcbg/

>>108155733
>>108155733
>>108155733

>>108155369
>and GPU
>cant do shit about it
thats quite easy
install fan control, set a mix curve "if ssd temperature is above 70c ramp up gpu fan"
wala, half the cool air will blow directly on the motherbord

nicotroon on shift in the new thread.

>>108153944
you might be right i just realized my GPU is visibly sagging. will try to fix it thanks anon

>>108154537
>Can't do path tracing at native 4k
You are literally retarded and posting premium Cope(tm) to boot

>>108154578
4k pathtracing is equivalent to putting on 16k upres and complaining you have low fps, again, literally retarded and coping to prove his point to justify why she didn't boughted a 5090 yet
in short, poverty cope coupled with retardism

>>108154597
>buying 2-3k gpu every 3 years (new release cadence, cucko) will make you not poor and smart
literally retarded and also a poor cope beyond measure
a tell tale sign of (terminal) poverty is bad judgement like this

>>108157474
>a tell tale sign of (terminal) poverty is bad judgement
Would not disagree. Financing /pcbg/ or really anything you don't actually need or cannot use to make a living is stupid.

>t.luddite