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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. New BIOS dropped.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar monitors dropping, consider waiting for more reviews.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
RAM pricing in Germany dips (kek)
Intel XeSS 3 now out for Arc B- and A- series (no one seems to give a shit)
5K27 MONITOR REVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tg1aVeKakE (meh)
Steam console delayed, price raised because of RAM
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
DLSS presets M and L for ultra-performance with DLSS 4.5. Turing & Ampere significant performance hit, issues on ada & low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar is being reviewed
Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
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>reading OP
nobody actually does that
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best pc for cad/cam bovine magnet designer
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32gb has become a major constraint even at 480p
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>>108186448
"16gb is enough" is the new "1gb VRAM is enough" cope
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>>108186434
Too bad, really. Some OPs actually try and make it work for /noobs/ who should >>108186390

>Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

At least when I take my turn in the tent I try to do it the /g/ way, anon. It's a chore to amuse all of (you) with OC. IDGAF what anons buy.
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>>108186443
You should probably ask cad/cam bovine magnet designers.
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>>108186386
i bought a 3xs system from scanpc and saw their logo upon boot. i tried to get to bios to fuck that off but it wont boot to bios. any idea why? tried to go from advanced settings and boot to uefi settings but it just went back to login
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>>108186517
>cad/cam
Real cadfaggots use workstations from the big boys.
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recently got the 5060 ti and it's actually good? i'm able to run everything on max and ultra and still average 100 fps on games like oblivion remastered and hogwarts legacy
why was everyone dunking on this card initially?
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>>108186591
poors seething on the 1080 ti's they bought in 2021 to this very day
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>>108186591
because in this world people hate the other people around them and it’s usually wealth based hatred so yiu get faggots who are hated by millionaires hating people who cant afford 5090’s. whats strange is im a neet and got a 5070ti from paypal and supposed to be paying it off over 3 years but i just pay £100 a month out of my benefits, that way i can use the whole 2k credit to pay for my driving licence. something ive never had and im nearly 50
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>>108186614
>2021
ancient history lesson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sDM9qP49Ug
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>>108186620
>5070ti from paypal and supposed to be paying it off over 3 years
Never seen such an option from paypal. Wonder if it's a euro thing only.
>2k credit to pay for my driving licence
They make you pay that much for a driver's licensee over there? Damn. I hope that means the drivers are usually better. Especially if you've never had to drive before.
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>>108186620
>wealth based
just don't be /poor/, geezer.

>>108186390
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>>108186632
trollposting
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>>108186632
well, it said on the website pay wih paypal over 3 years and then when i did it i just got a lump sum i can pay off whenever.
>that much for driving
a crash course last i checked was about £1k and they’ve just made it harder to get on. United Kingdom. not even sire why cause ive always managed fine without one. just might need a place to live when me mum dies in the holly
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>>108186620
pic for breakdown
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>>108186642
>just dont be poor
the effort required to not be poor is too much for too little return when you’re starting point is now
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>>108186670
/biz/->> >>>/biz/ is the place for discussing financial philosophy, anon.

This is /pcbg/. We have it covered.

>>108186390
>Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.
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>>108186642
>trollposting
Your mom is a trollpost.

>>108186646
Probably better to pay it off early then as the interest will definitely add a lot.
>>108186663
>a crash course last i checked was about £1k and they’ve just made it harder to get on. United Kingdom. not even sire why cause ive always managed fine without one. just might need a place to live when me mum dies in the holly
Damn. Of course here in burgerland we're expected to drive and have little public transport, so it makes sense the cost to learn to drive is cheaper here. Well good luck on all that, and hope you can find a decent car too.
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>>108186713
>interest will add a lot
think the 5070 was £839 and total to pay was £1k or something. i just got a new mobo and cpu after paying off most of it. never used credit before but also never really owned expensive pc parts before.
>here in burgerland
i was shocked to see the standards of driving in the usa bevause of the tests are conducted. but then again its cheap to own a car and get your licence isnt it?

also, if anyone can help me with >>108186535
the maybe this guy wont call me a troll, just waiting about to see if i can get some help. ive disabled fast boot etc but cant get to the bios. scan said they dont lock the bios or anything(if thats even a thing)
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>>108186762
>this guy wont call me a troll

The description makes it sound like the BIOS is fooked. The vendor does not provide technical support? Can you just take it back to them to have them sort it?

If you aren't knowing what you're doing you could break your PC doing stuff with BIOS resets etc.. and I personally would just not use 4chan for technical support.

>you old troll you
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what do you guys think? acceptable for gayming?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7WCbvR
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>>108186390
RTX 5090 - LIKE NEW, $4199
NO LOWBALLING, I KNOW WHAT I GOT
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>>108186781
>take it back
this is where a car would be nice but i could get a train up to their store and see.
>i wouldnt use 4chan for tech support
i come here every morning with my coffee, maybe i should go to toms hardware instead lol.
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The only ddr4 boards left around here are some b760m models and I want to upgrade to a 14600kf but apparently these boards are too weak to power it properly. I'm too slow to figure this out and now there are no z690 boards. Are these these boards good enough anyway?
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what cooler can I buy that will last me a decade? I think I want an aircooler with a big heatink, or are aio robust enough?
how do I know I can mount it on am6?
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>>108186849
>how do i know
am6 isnt here yet. theyll make a thingy for it to convert am5. i have a liquid frzr 2 i want to use but liquid cooling over my gpu gets me worried
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>>108186838
used Z690 or Z790 might be your best option
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>>108186838
if it says rog strix its what u need
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>>108186838
good b760m boards like the aorus elite ax can handle even an i7 no problemo so it depends on the exact b760m board your looking at
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>>108186882
>>108186849
Just impulse bought a Arctic Liquid Freezer III because there was an open box at -40%
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So according to the Phison guy SSDs are going to be so scares for the next few years that it's going to literally kill companies. Even basic memory and storage will be so scarce it'll kill off entire product categories like smart devices.

Foundries are asking for 3 years cash upfront to manufacture anything (seems like a candid move when this might be a bubble that can pop at any moment and foundries will be left holding the bag)

Could be the usual CEO fluff, but if he's right things are going to go from bad to worse soon.
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technically i can put my new build together now, the only thing from my current PC im re-using is the case and a nvme 3.0 drive
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>>108187019
I fail to see how that will happen when literally, ddr6 and the next ssd technology is in development that will surely be on a different supply line

you can't just say "we'll they'll buy that too" that's not now life fucking works, AI isn't replacing peoples food or blood you fucking idiot
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>>108187032
>AI isn't replacing peoples food or blood you fucking idiot
It sure is replacing my sanity though. :^)
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>>108187093
At least you aren't those people who ask chatGPT how to "be more popular at work" and then they become convinced they're actually too good for their job and they quit and lose their careers

because a computer told them to

you aren't that stupid, are you?
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>lost another auction
fuck this shit I'm buying a 5800xt that's in stock
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>>108187104
I've never used chatGPT.
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>>108184034
>>108184069
2.5" SSD's were better than M.2 SSDs
Prove me wrong
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>>108186580
>5.25" bays
>solid front panel
>no airflow
>$4,200 before tax
YIKES!
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>>108187127
3.5" drives are better yet
bigger is better
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>>108187127
cables. motherboards should have two m.2 slots and give you a pcie to nvme adapter with four more with active cooling.
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What are telltale signs of motherboard issues?
In the past year I've upgraded
>CPU
>GPU
>PSU
>RAM
>SSD with clean install of OS
Recently, I've been having issues where my PC needs to "warm up" after each shut down or else it crashes.
It then needs to reboot a couple of times before being able to run fine for days. It's only after it's cold for hours that it has issues on startup.
Don't tell me I need to buy a new motherboard...
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>>108187136
is your motherboard bent like a banana?
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>>108187136
sounds more like your cpu is degraded. would set a fixed low (-ish) freq and a fixed known safe voltage and see if that helps.
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How is the MSi Mag Tomahawk x870? It's in the newest 9850x3d bundle.
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>>108187147
I'll look into that, thanks.
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>>108186713
>>108186762
It makes me more and more irate each year off how easy it is to get a drivers license in the USA compared to places in Europe, 16 years old and less than 100 dollars and you're good to go, meanwhile here it's a long bureaucratic process and a costly one at that which could have stumbling blocks at any moment. You are also at the mercy of the instructors who have it in their interest that you fail and thus repeat tests so you spend more money.

>>108186663
In my country, basic courses consisting of theory and 30 hours of practice alone can be at least $1400, another $100 for medical exams, state exam consisting of theory + practice is another 100, license its self and photos are 100, additional educational drives which are often necessary at the end which cost $35 per hour, exam corrections which are over $50 per error, oh and it's also depending on your city. If you live in a big city for instance it's way more expensive.

Feels like part of my life has been rotting away since 2021 because I got my exam at the first possible moment, but didn't find the state of mind or health to do the rest. Also because there's a gorillion different regulations for the road that change every year and the pool of questions is comically gargantuan, thousands of possible questions.

I could have picked up a lot of good stuff from other people besides computer parts all over the country if I was free to legally drive anywhere I wanted to and whenever, otherwise I'm just missing out. Knowing how to drive is literally not the issue, it's just getting the fucking loicense.

Seriously though here in the context of PC building, it really makes me seethe with jealousy watching techtubers or whatever just drive up to whatever bloke's house and just get bargain deal or rare find one after another like it's no big deal, meanwhile here I've had to make due with arranging grand voyages or quests or whatever.
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>>108187171
its good on paper but i've seen anons complain about m.2. bugs
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>>108187146
my GPU looks like this



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