On a whim I decided to look for listings for X230s. I already have one I got for cheap a few years back, I was just curious. Looks like they've gotten pretty expensive recently (at least, compared to the average price I'd see back when I was in the market for one), and there aren't any lots to take parts from and repair to then take one and sell the rest to to make your money back.

T-series are more or less the same. Older X-series have always been relatively expensive.

It's gonna suck if/when my X230 ever dies. Even with coreboot/libreboot compatibility, the T480 just isn't the same.

>>108225645
where i live a x230 is $140 since 2017

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Anyone have any advice for fixing the bezels on thinkpads? I have a T520 that has a crack in the bezel at the hinge and really don't want it to get worse.

>>108226457
i'm sure you can find replacement parts online. barring that, look for a dead unit with an intact chassis and harvest those bits

>>108225645
>>108225677
those things sure look nice but is there any real use case for x230s these days? at least with the t480, its quad core is still fast enough for web

>>108226457
Epoxy probably, but is it really just the bezel and not the hinge mount breaking off the cover?

>>108226992
I still use my dual-core X270 for web browsing and there's also quad-core modded boards for the X230

How is the T14 gen 1 thought of? I found an AMD model (R7 4750U, 16+512) for a bit more than 495 models (if you throw in having 512gb over 256 then it becomes the same). It is (a bit under) double the price of T480, but a lot of those come as 8+256, and the cpu is more than twice as fast, so going by numbers alone, it seems I'd get more power/ram/storage for the money.

>>108226457

multiple layers aluminium tape degrease mask paint with matte

>>108225161
guess i can ask here

i have a t420 and the ram is giving me problems. at least 1 of the module gives me errors with memtest85 on a single specific address

thet pc still works fine btw, it's just that sometimes random bits are getting corrupted here and there, so eventually it's gonna implode but whatever

my question is: should i bother with pressured air on the ram stick or alcoholing the stick's attachment thingy or just throw away the ram?

>>108227621
worth a shot, don't cost nothin.

can someone spoonfeed me please what do I look for on ebay (eu de) if I want a ryzen based Thinkpad with at least vega 6, and ability to get it to 16gb dual channel (either coming with 8+8 or just 8 and I'll get another after?
its either Thinkpads or elitebooks 845 g7.

>>108227688
T14/T16, E14 Gen 2 (or higher) and E15 Gen 2 depending on CPU/E16, P14s/P16s, for example

>>108227688
Just look on Kleinanzeigen.
What's your budget anyway?

>>108227776
don't the 14s have soldered ram?

>>108227837
I did already, its pretty barren.
around 200€
I found 845 g7 4650u refurbs on ebay. thought maybe Thinkpad would be better.

>>108227850
or rather, I looked in my area. I never used Klein with shipping before and never used ebay..

>>108227838
Depends on the exact model, I think. Most have at least one SODIMM slot as long as they aren't the slim models notified by "s" (as in T14s, as opposed to T14), the PXXs models being the exception. But do your research on the exact models available for you.

>>108227917
is it hard to pick ram to work in dual channel along soldered one though? that's why I was confused

>>108227953
It always runs in dual channel when the slot is filled. It's good to use a SODIMM with the same speed as the onboard chips or higher so it doesn't downclock.

I have a X61, W500, X220, T440p and T480. What should I add to my collection?

>>108228019
I see .. thought you had to match it a lot more

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I used to rock a T480 but it was in really bad shape. Like falling apart, held together with hot glue. I decided to get a T470 for $60 on ebay because of the part sharing it has with the T480. I was able to keep my ram, NVMe, Batteries.
I love this thing. The keyboard is so much nicer then my old one. I don't notice any performance difference despite it being gen 6. I know shills online won't shutup about the T480, but the T470 is often overlooked and I hope that continues.

I got a t42 for parts that works but has artifacting in the de. Not sure if it's a driver or the ati Gpu is kill, but it has the 1400x1050 panel.
Is it possible to swap this panel into my T23? They had an optional panel of the same resolution

>>108228186
I use a T470 keyboard in my T480 just for the more pleasant green and orange lights, also keep the T470 it came from as a backup

>>108228215
Definitely possible. I once swapped a T42 screen into a T60. I think screen swaps were more forgiving back in those days.

any idea how to fix the trackpoint buttons of my x220 not working?

>>108227953
Once you decide on a model, just look up the speed and timings, and buy a module to match. I'm sure you can get by with matching speed but if you really want to ensure congruence find one with the same timings.

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>>108227621
RMA the DIMMs, mfgs do really have lifetime warranty if you dig up a receipt pdf and email them.
Pic related my new DDR3 sticks just arrived under RMA, manufacture date 2026 week 6

Also wondering how it is possible that manufacturers make ddr3 still to this date, are they hoarding this many old chips for this long? Who buys ddr3 today, no shops hold any new dimms or especially soddimms in stock!

Which models are the best value right now for $200?

>>108227042
Bezels are very fragile on all Thinkpads.

>>108232461
this german hardware shop has quite a bit in stock at least.
https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Arbeitsspeicher+(RAM)/SO+DDR3+Module.html

>>108233451
T490/495, if you're lucky even a T14 Gen 1.

how bad is the flex mode performance hit on a P14s AMD compared to full dual channel?

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HP is way better.

>>108234717
source?

>>108233451
bunch of P14s but that's on eu ebay and with bidding

>>108228038
Sunlight.

>>108227488
this is the exact config t14g1 i picked up a couple weeks ago and have been using it daily, i'm enjoying it a lot
have another 16gb ram stick coming this week too, i'll get to storage once 512 starts not being enough

how much am I going to hate myself if I get the UK keyboard variant?
I don't code

>>108236685
once you swap out the keymap the only real physical difference is the backslash key, unless the placement of that key is very important to you then i don't see why it would make a major difference

>>108236739
I'm really only worried about left shift being short. its making me paranoid.
didn't even know this layout existed, so its kind of messing with my head.

>>108236805
actually, can that key next to the short lshift be remapped to also be a shift? that would solve it

>>108234717
>bp

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>>108236497

>>108235286
fucking hell.. the 5850u one went for 370€... holy moly...
I'm gonna try to get a 5650u one for 250... not sure if I can even get that, really..
I'm aiming for a refurb cause I can't find anything else better or even on par used. bunch of hp 845 g7's for like 200€.

anything you guys can recommend? I just want something with vega so i can play oldish games like fallout and skyrim.
and if not, at least like 2005 era games and ps2 emulation.

>>108227621
I'm not sure if the option exists on windows but on Linux there is an option to tell the kernel to not use certain physical memory addresses. If you're too lazy to RMA the RAMs (most likely they do have lifetime guarantee) you could use that to keep your machine working without worrying too much.

>>108232461
The only difficult thing to make on a ddr3 memory module are the DRAM chips and ddr3 DRAMs are still being produced for embedded and cheapskate industrial applications and whatnot. When you have the DRAM chips and its supporting components, assembly is so easy you can do it at home with some flux paste and a hair dryer, or a carefully balanced clothes iron.

>>108227488
I have a t13 amd gen 1 with a 4650u. The t14 should be totally fine. Your math is pretty much correct.

>>108234717
>liji

>>108225161
Wavy boy.

has anyone tried jumping a pc power button on a smd power switch pad

i bought a t480s

>>108230226
Oh nice, I'll have to give it a try, did you swap the lvds cable too?

P14s Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U 16GB 500GB for 250-270€
or is it worth going to
P14s Gen 2 Ryzen 7 PRO 5850U 16GB 500GB for 350-370€

I couldn't find anything cheaper

>>108242717
I'd personally get the cheaper one. The R7 can't outrun the R5 by much within the thermal envelope.

>>108243119
thanks. will try
is it going to be a lot worse in single channel? its only the soldered 16gb + a free slot, but I don't need 32gb

Best thinkpad for classic minecraft? Ideally running windowsXP

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>>108243371
Yes, your computer won't reach its full potential performance. But here's the thing.
Use case?

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>>108243505
g-games...

>>108236622
I looked at photos and it seemed to have only 1 ram slot. Does it have 2 actually?

>>108227488
I also found a P15 g1 (i7 10750h, 32gb ram, quadro gpu) for $510, seller says it can be negotiated a bit. Is it a good price? Are there any reliability concerns? Reliability is a big concern because I have a legion 5 from 2021 which gets random shutdowns when NOT under load, tried to hard to fix it myself, I cracked and it's now at a shop to get looked at. If it needs a new motherboard, it's more expensive than its value.

>>108243758
>I have a legion 5 from 2021 which gets random shutdowns when NOT under load
probably just a RAM issue I'd say. I have a MSI laptop at home I got an upgraded 32GB kit for and after putting the RAM in it kept randomly shutting down, put back the original RAM in it and it's working fine again. I put the 32GB kit in one of my Thinkpads instead and it's also working fine so it was probably just a compatibility issue

>>108243669
t14 gen 1 has one soldered and one additional slot

>>108243822
It always had the original ram in it. Shuffled it around all 6 ways possible, put in a new stick afterwards, nothing worked

>>108242404
MOMMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT

>>108242516
It's been a long time. I think I only swapped the panel itself. It had the same connector. One of those things where "if it fits, it sits".

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>x1 nano
>900g
they discontinued this series because people complained about the lack of ports and sdcard reader or whatever the fuck. they never heard of a dongle. lighter than a fatpad air, extremely good laptop and they shit right in its face.

the consumer is always WRONG.

>The Dongler

>>108245746
why have this when plain X1C with proper ports is just 10% heavier

Gotta do the IPS WQHD display upgrade on my T430. Are these cable and display from aliexpresso fine?
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005008326062273.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008126024404.html

>>108228186
all the puders i seen on ebay for <$200 are broke. parts only or whatever. how did you get one for $60

>>108246068
adding 10% weight for some ports? sounds like some goober garbage to me

>>108246550
I won't accuse that particular poster of lying because there's the occasional smoking deal out there, and eGay really is a skillz issue for a lot of people, but it's rarely that straightforward if you look at the specs and condition of *actually sold* units.

There's always an dick-measuring incentive to under-play what you paid for a fully functional and working unit. People will say they paid $60, but it was actually $65, plus 8% sales tax, plus $20 shipping, plus a new $25 battery since the one it came with was clapped out, plus an SSD because it didn't come with one or came with some 128GB MSATA atrocity, plus a $40 ram kit because it came with a paltry 4GB.

...you get what I mean.

i got a refurbished t14 a month back and it has some faint screen burn and image retention. any good way to solve it? it is tripping me out. i wish i never noticed it desu now i cant unsee the ghosting effect

>>108246771
get a new screen panel

>>108246727
i realized this as i seen some office liquids that don't have storage or power cords. definitely a good way to buy one i would imagine. probably no cum

I want at least 12 threads, 32gb DDR4, and 2 SSDs. Based off that info, which laptop would you recommend?

>>108225161
how i know if i get real glass trackpad. i enter the number and on ebay it says plastic.

>>108227838
iirc t14 (non s) has 2x slots, t14s has 1x slot.
e14 i believe it depends on generation, but most likely only has 1x slot.

>>108248193
T490-T14 Gen 4 have 1 soldered RAM slot + 1 free RAM slot.
T14 at least are dual channel capable, not sure about the T490.
T14 Gen 5 and 6 have 2 normal RAM slots again.

>>108225677
I bought one for $80 in 2016, I checked now and they are still $50-70 lol

also GPUs, bought a RX 570 8GB for $90 in 2023, now I just sold it for the same amount

tech just doesn't drop in price with time as much it did years ago

>>108248291
The market went haywire. Covid supply issues, then the economy is fucked due to inflation. Jews are building their security state panopticon and buying up chips they may never use. Everybody is poorer and the demand for old shit is higher, for those that aren't debtmaxxing.

>>108225677
The most expensive "for-parts" one I paid any mind to was an i7 variant for ~$70. I should've bought it one the spot desu.

There used to be a lot of (relatively) cheap for-parts auctions--most just needed a new battery or storage device--but there haven't been any lately. It's mostly just refurbished and librebooted listings, which is retarded to buy one since you have to flash it yourself to update it eventually or change anything--maybe you want to use a UEFI payload, or just have the kernel as the payload; maybe you want to set up full-disk encryption, or even just change the GRUB splash screen.

I'm actually curious how well of a job vendors who sell librebooted ThinkPads do. I feel like they do the bare minimum and just flash it without doing any actual configuration; they don't even compile a ROM, they just download a pre-compiled ROM. Some boards actually benefit from certain configurations within the build system.

I can understand, in some part, vendors doing "the bare minimum" to set up a librebooted system, with the assumption that the buyer will then set up the rest of the system themselves.
>>108248291
>tech just doesn't drop in price with time as much it did years ago
With older ThinkPads, part of it is no doubt normalfags being sold on the brand meme or the libreboot meme, and inflating the value of them. To me, libreboot/coreboot is really only good for having an up-to-date BIOS/UEFI, and having a choice of payloads. Whoever thinks a librebooted ThinkPad is a hard counter to glowniggery is painfully dull, and I hope they get party vanned.

>>108247030
If you have a drawer full of spare parts like >>108228186 did or don't mind factoring in one or two new things into your total cost (that is hopefully below what you'd pay for a unit that is already specced that way), yeah. Buying a stripped model and essentially refurbing it yourself can be fun and sometimes cost-effective. Even if you break even with a unit that's already specced that way, you got to pick your own parts and your hobby kind of paid for itself. That's old /tpg/ energy.

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>>108246727
>>108228186
You have to buy an incomplete laptop. No batteries, no ram, no drives or drive caddy. I also used a coupon that was right on the page. So yes. This is what I paid. Amazing deal. The one I got was in perfect condition.

I need a new work laptop, it needs to be able to run a browser fast, do video meetings, and it needs to be light.

Which Thinkpad do you recommend?

>>108250043
Of used ones, T14(s) or X13 gen 2, preferably AMD
If you really mean new, T14s gen 6 with Intel V series seems like one of the better compromises

if my trackpoint is inaccurate does the cap or the keyboard itself need replacing

how do you use the nipple?..
is it better than trackpad?..
why does every laptop manufacturer put trackpad into such a stupid place?

>>108252619
gesture support is still superior on a trackpad. for longer sessions though, and especially while scrolling through pages, the nub’s a lot greater at managing fatigue, and if u like it on your lap, it’s a lot more handy to use whilst never letting go of the keyboard

>>108252619
I have the touchpad disabled on all my pads and use the nipple for everything except drawing. For me the killer feature is smooth scrolling at any speed for any duration without having to reposition your fingers.

>nipple
It's a clit, you idiots.

can you talk about laptops in general here or only about thinkpads and business laptops?

Most powerful that has a VGA?

>>108255183
W541
T550 and W550s also have VGA but come with less powerful U series CPUs

>>108255130
/tpg/ mostly concerns itself with business laptops. Other brands besides Thinkpads are tolerated and you may get answers about them but most people here only have the autistic depth of knowledge about lenovoshit.

If it's a dumb question go ask /sqt/. Don't ask if you can upgrade the GPU in your Asus walmart black friday special.

>>108244322
repair shop called today, even they couldn't find the cause for the shutdown, also pointing towards a mobo problem

>Don't buy anything other than IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
I have read this BUUUUUUT(t)
>>108255623
>autistic depth of knowledge about lenovoshit
Leads me to want to at least try to ask: Are IdeaPads any good at all? I'm in the market for a 14in 16:10 OLED thing with an ok battery life for not too much money just for school work and to be lulled to sleep by 2000s comedy shows maybe some extremely light gaming like idk Stronghold and PvZ I got a proper desktop so idrc but anyway I can really only find IdeaPads that fit those criteria there's couple of Acer laptops but they're going all-in on the AI shit and I'm far too autistic to not seethe about seeing a Copilot™ key and dedicated acer bloatware key every time I open the lid

>>108249644
>>108246727
bought a laptop which matches my broken laptop that won't power on anymore. so now i have extra parts that i can use but it won't help me because the thing that eventually breaks is the montherboard or the soldered memory or and so it doesn't matter

i have sucked 4 men's dicks

>>108255183
Just get an adapter, what's the problem?

>>108256971
No problem I got two, I was mostly just curious desu. What's the point of wasting a reply on a pointless question like this especially when someone else already genuinely answered?
>>108255261
Btw since I'm replying thanks Anon

I wish the T16 had a centered keyboard like the OG T530.

>>108257392
The c13 looks pretty good. it's nice and small like you would want a laptop to be

>>108255130
laptop general never takes off on /g/ because all the non-garbage laptops are fucking expensive.
I doubt you would get any decent advice on /g/.

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>>108225161
I'm looking to buy a Thinkpad in the US for around 200-400 USD. My main priorities are unironically just having a nice screen ideally 14+ inches in size for watching anime and toying around on Linux. ideally would be nice if it's quiet or has at least some decent specs for the modern era either or. the current laptop i'm looking at is either a P15 Gen 1 or P1 Gen 3 unless there's a better bang for the buck. i'm also not opposed to E series since i don't take my laptop outside and it doesn't have any jank drivers with Linux.

>>108254355
that grosses me out. I'm gay

>>108259779
p14s g2 amd maybe. I think its quiet

>>108228186
>I decided to get a T470
its a pretty good laptop, my dads work were throwing a bunch out, he got a couple and gave me one, they both had passwords on the bios so i couldnt change a bunch of the settings and a bunch of stuff had been disabled.

i picked up a ch314a and patched the bios to unlock it, installed win11 and it works great even with its dual core and 8gb of ram, will even game tho not too demanding.

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Sometimes after wake up my physical mouse buttons stop working but both trackpoint and touchpad pointing still works. Re-enabling either in device manager does nothing. Is my (non-user-removable) keyboard physically fucked?

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Oh, it might be software after all.
Weird that pointing works.

>>108259779
Both you're looking at share the same screens.
Try getting one with the 4k IPS or OLED screen for better colors.
If you can snipe a P15 Gen 2 however go with that one since even the 1080p screen on it claim 100% sRGB (I have the 100% sRGB screen optio on a T14 Gen 5 and it looks very nice)

>>108228186
>gnome

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>>108261370
use case?

>>108259928
A clit is basically just as small penis, why would it disgust you?

>>108261689
cause it's gross and attached to an even grosser vagina.

Best thinkpad model choice for $150 on eBay in the USA? I almost got a gen 6 x1 carbon for 140 but the listing ended.

>>108262465
T480s is as well-built as X1C6 and has the advantages of a RAM slot and a replaceable keyboard. You might also find lower specced T495 or T14G1A which could be worth the downgrade in sturdiness if you need better graphics.

are t14 keyboards good?

>>108262974
It's fine.
The older keyboards feel better but they're not as bad as other laptops.

>>108262974
T14 G1-G2 are the same as you'd expect from older models like T460s-T490(s) or X1 Carbon before 7th gen. A far cry from T430 and earlier, definitely doesn't feel like a desktop keyboard anymore, but still pretty comfortable.
T14 G3+ are noticeably shallower and at least the two that I've used (might depend on manufacturer) were flexy around the nipple and near the edges.

>>108256399
IdeaPads are "consumer" hardware. They're not built as well as "business" class machines. The cooling is worse, component failure is more frequent, hinges and keyboards don't stand up to as much abuse, and parts are harder to source. Weirdly, they do often have nice screens and higher specced GPUs.

The calculus of /tpg/ favors parts availability, repairability, low cost (for 3-5+ year old or significantly older hardware) and ruggedness above all. Bottom line, you can run an IdeaPad, but you need to baby it. Keep the fans dusted and clean. Open the lid slowly and carefully from the middle. Don't pick it up by the corner. Don't drop it or spill anything on it. Mind your warranty period, you might need it.

For your use case you don't need anything THAT flashy. You could get by with a used business class machine that's a few years old for the same or less money you could abuse.

>>108225161
thinkpads are shit and cost way too much for what they actually offer.

just purchased a used precision 5530. has been pretty comfy

>>108267405
oh, so that's why people like ThinkPads so much...
P is also good, right? 14s

>>108268364
P14s is two different models. AMD version is lighter, more plasticky, but has an easily replaceable keyboard. Intel has a mostly metal chassis and dual fans but is infected with the unified keyboard-palmrest of most other laptops. If I was to buy a ThinkPad new (if I wasn't poor) I'd probably pick one of these two or a P1, which is essentially a larger P14s Intel with better GPU options.

>>108268562
I'm trying to get my hands on a p14s g2 AMD refurb still.
shame it's plastic but whatever. p1 is a lot more expensz

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>>108268562
unified keyboard palmrest?

heard that the wifi card on AMD P14s is not very good.
which one can I get from Ali to replace it? signal is SHIT in my room
or should I just use my old phone as a repeater?

>>108268886
I actually prefer plastic because generally speaking it should be easier to replace parts, not get as warm and absorb impacts better without denting.
Also Lenovo's generally high build quality counters a lot of the disadvantages often associated with plastic laptops like loose hinges and a wobbly screen.

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>>108225161
The dock for the T470 is like $20 new. Insane deal. All because it doesn't use thunderbolt.

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>>108269477
>>108269494
oh so that's the external power button i was dreaming about...

>>108269477
Tb docks are like 25-40 bucks.