I'm sleepy. I have no ideas for new projects.

>>108234532
Write a "mousemover" Software, but after 10 min or so, it starts teams and starts messaging everyone in the list "I am a lazy fucking piece of shit, gooning to underage hentai doujins while I work and purposefully ignoring incoming requests and mails."

>>108234572
Meds

Jannies are mentally ill

jannies tryna keep us niggas down

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>>108234753
>>108234648
Jannies try to keep us down
Just 'cos we post around
Things we do just make 'em mald
They'll huff and seethe 'til they're bald

AWS certs are useless, aren't they?

>>108234946
They're not, they're useful for making extra cash
For Amazon that is :^)

i'm so fucking tired bros

>>108234946
HR roasties like them.

>>108234946
yes, if you cram in just to pass the exam
if you build and test things in real cloud environment in preparation for the cert, you will be cracked

>>108234935
wonder how these retards have no shame posting shit like that
and it's usually some swarthoid doing it

how do I rank up to a tech lead in some project at a software consultancy?
are connections the only way or can I do it by proving how good of a codemonkey I am?

Should I make the jump and start learning how to scam companies by selling them agents and shit?
Been a code monkey for the last 4 years but it looks like this shit is going nowhere and the only growth now is in companies selling AI tools.

>internship is now reducing the time we will have to work on our project because they want us to take an AI bootcamp

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I am so unemployable that I can't even get a job through nepotism
>uncle is an executive at some local manufacturing company
>tell him that I got laid off 8 months ago and am struggling to find a job in tech
>he says he'll set me up with some full time do nothing job at the company, but the pay is shit
>okay whatever
>gives me the contact info for the stacy at the staffing company
>"Oh hey you're the cousin of (uncle), right? yeah he's great"
>skips me to the front of the queue above 13 other applicants
>"yeah just do this drug test and we'll do a background check and you can start next week"
>someone breaks an expensive machine on the floor and it's going to take over a month to fix
>an even higher up exec puts a pause on all hiring in that department because production is cut in half until the machine is fixed

>stacy tells me I won't be able to start for a long time
>BUUUT there's another opening in a different department, you just have to interview with HR becky. this job pays better and it involves computers, but you need to actually do work
>okay whatever
>interview with the becky
>it goes okay, but she keeps telling me I'm overqualified for this job
>don't get the role
>find out I was "the benchmark" - the role was already earmarked for someone else. There were only 2 candidates in consideration, the job wasn't even listed online
>the other candidate was a family friend of becky
>mfw I got out nepo'd

>come back to stacy
>any chance there's an opening in the IT department at all, even for helpdesk shit?
>"no sorry the leader of the IT department is a 60 year old boomer that won't even consider candidates without a bachelors degree. We've tried before, he refuses them all."

>>108235162
I figure recruitoid roistoids love that chit doe

>>108234935
>>108235162
They probably got chatgpt to write it for them because as retarded as it is, they're still not smart enough to write all that out and if they were smart, they'd realize how retarded their post is

Its like those cringe videos of an indian approaching a woman and doing something retarded like a handstand to impress her

They are perpetually on the "mount stupid" side of the dunning kruger effect, doing and saying the most retarded shit thinking they are a genius as smooth as butter when the only thing smooth about them is the surface of their brain

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Decent book on Postgres in general. I recommend all /utwg/ friends to read it for broad postgres intro.

>>108235390
Postgres fucking sucks. It only caught on because MySQL was even worse. Using one process per connection is peak retardation.

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>Now that all programming is done by AI, you need this other AI that will also tell you what to program with AI! Shipping the right features to customers is hard, get our feature analytics streamlining AI to do it for you!

>meanwhile the programming AI

Seriously though. What do you think about AI's ability to replace our noble craft? It is obvious that it will at some point. At some point people will be able to scientifically achieve immortality too.

But when? 10 years? 20? I mean to one shot an actual commercial app and be trusted in production. I say one shot specifically because, the way I see it, if it can't one shot an app, it can't do shit. If it can't one shot them, then it would just add more and more mistakes when fixing bugs anyway.

Bear in mind that, due to the way language models work, they have inherent limitations that will be there no matter how far they advance. Their goal is by definition to output text that is statistically plausible as a response to the input, nothing else. For example, it lies because it has no concept of the truth and is not trying to tell the truth, never will unless its with a fundamentally different technology. The same could apply to making code actually work. This could either be no big deal and it could still be viable by fine tuning it, or it could be a fundamental limitation of LLMs that makes it impossible.

This is a conversation most people can't have. The investors who believe AGI is around the corner are clueless, normies think all tech workers are already out of a job and crying and saying "ohh i should've learned to plumb!". They're retarded. Only we can meaningfully discuss this.

>>108235403
while true, it's hard to do a lot better when your connections are going to be doing disk I/O for the most part. I believe the latest postgres has been trying to better handle this case though.

>>108235403
And why is it bad exactly?
Your DB will have a dedicated machine anyway, so it's not like it will have a shortage of resources.
Also Postgres is so feature rich you'd have to be dumb to use anything else as your starter.

>>108235442
because then your architecture starts growing warts like pgbouncer to cope.

>>108235414
>potentially destructive

>>108235446
You seem like a SNCA enthusiast. It's enough to set max connection pool in your client application.

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>>108235448
the rest is even better

>got an offer for a new job
>really like the people at my current job
How do I let go? I can't stay here.

>>108235469
>>really like the people at my current job
geg, normalbvlls sure are peculiar
just leave, nobody cares and neither should you

>>108235469
They don't like you

>>108235469
jfl at "muh people" fucking normie

i've never had a job where they liked me or i liked them

>>108235469
They'd likely all jump if it were them. Work is not a place to make friends.

>>108235469
literally just leave. you will be buckbroken more for staying. I wasted 8 years of my life on a failed project because of a semi-similar reason with some added familial edge to it and all I got for it was time waste.

>>108235414
i've been saying to every normalfag who asked me about it, it's a productivity tool, not a replacement, it isn't horses vs cars, it's Model T vs a Tesla

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>Pull Requests are now 100 garbage comments thanks to the Copilot/AI review, and your 2 human reviewers using their own AI tools to find pedantic nonsense to spam

anyone else? It's never been more over

>>108235589
what i am asking is if you think it can become a replacement at some point, how and when

im not sure about a model t vs a tesla, how do you even use it? it barely helps me

>>108235595
just gotta wait for the bubble to pop so token prices balloon
then AI will only be used for niche shit with practical applications instead of spamming the internet with slop

>>108235595
not for me, but my friends tell me the same.

what happened to utwg?

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>>108235611
>2 more weeks
Anyway here’s more linkedin vomit

> get a new job for 105k euro per year (very good for Germany)

> ancient tech stack
> one very hostile lead, hostile lead complained to manager about me behaving like a junior dev for once being 3 mins late to daily standup and like 8 mins for another meeting ( due to their internal software forcing a restart lol )
> other colleagues whipped into working after 1700, immediately started dumping work on me but no individual projects
> apparently I got placed into a team responsible for emergency changes or other fast / small changes to existing data products, barely anything new gets created here
> I am used to developing complete solutions and also maintaining stakeholder contacts, defining requirements and taking things slower as all projs were big deliverables (e.g. ingest files properly, parse these files into structural data then create tables views etc that you'll use to make a dashboard or even application)

I've requested a meeting with the manager. Is it smart to ask him to fire me during probation so I can collect unemployment for a while? I don't think it will work out this job is giving me depression. The colleagues being literally burned out or working themselves into a burnout are also very discouraging to see.

the saddest part about AI is that the only reason it's shilled so hard is because technological innovation is completely dead
there is nothing else to discuss
if we were still progressing at the same rate as from the 90s-2010s we would be talking about quantum computers or some shit right now, but instead we've spent the last 15 years on bullshit like blockchain and nfts and ai

>>108235645
This makes no sense, what a fucking stupid pajeet.

"Strict policies" and then he brings up security questions. Nobody thinks good security is about complexity. Nobody creates super secure passwords. What he said should be done is basically the same he was saying is bad (strict policies). Humans use any security if humans are using the app.

The reason this text is so retarded is because he used AI, and AI only worries about wording and how it sounds, not the underlying meaning. This is the fool proof way to recognize AI regardless of dashes or writing style.

And the worst part is even white NPCs probably won't notice.

>>108235647
>if we were still progressing at the same rate as from the 90s-2010s
cant do that with tariffs, 1 million $ homes, gorillion immigrants, DEI, high taxes and inflation

nor do we deserve to ngl

>>108235403
https://pganalyze.com/blog/postgres-18-async-io

just set io_method = worker and move on.

>>108235696
08 crisis along with the "solution" for it hurt "the west" so much it's ridiculous.

How do I get the motivation to do leetcode when employed? Feels like a humiliation ritual and it's hard to retain anything when you do actual real work.

Man, my chinese coworker is so cute, she came in wearing an oversized t-shirt today talking to me about how much she wants to go to Japan and visit Disneyland with her parents. Shame I have a gf already.

>>108235646
Prob quit the burnout factory. Though the next job will likely pay less.

>>108235778
just do the daily questions and maybe 2-3 extra a day if you're in the mood

>>108235778
You don't you simply don't have time for it. I'm not sure which companies still ask for it considering you get pretty far nowadays to solve all of it through LLMs.

The thing that pisses me off about the AI craze is I haven't found a tool utilizing AI that was actually like "wow, this is impressive." yet every fucking executive and their mom is trying to force it down everyone's throat. Like fuck man this technology is way premature and every vendor is giving shit products with half-assed feature but no let's just add a crap fucking AI feature that can't seem to understand any prompt into the tool. yup! that will totally work instead of making a better streamlined process with some "dumb" processes.

>>108235778

Don't worry about that. It's literally useless thanks to AI. If you ever have to find a job again it's nothing to grind LC for 2 weeks and be totally up to speed. They're just brain teasers and math problems pretending to be programming it almost has nothing to do with software at all.

>>108235848
peak of mt stupid dunning krueger moment

>>108235911

I've had to do this twice now, it's nothing. How would it be "stupid" to be able to master LC in a few weeks, that isn't a discipline you dumbass. They are, quite literally, math problems pretending to be programming. They usually even let you reference programming docs because that isn't the intent.

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>>108235938
where's the math here

>>108235785
Sexooooo

is it normal to be woken up at midnight because you're on-call, then to be kept up all night dealing with stupid shit and then expected to do a whole regular day shift the next day?

>>108236015
a sensible boss would give you the morning off if there aren't any urgent matters to solve

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>>108235644
This is utwg now

please stop posting linkedin posts from indians and muslims

why

>>108235646
I started working for the government for 70k eu and i have to say if i factor in all the time wasted and not worked, my actual pay per hour worked is probably even more than yours. I really wonder if its ever going to be worth it to leave this job someday and work at a real company where 8 hours of actual work is expected. If you want to be comfy and start a family i would recommend it. If you want to climb the goyladder then not so much.

I NEED A JOB WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ALL THIS FUCKING AI SHIT AND IT'S ALL PEOPLE WANT AND IT'S LIKE I HAVE TO MAKE SOME FUCKING PERSONAL PROJECT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT SO "MICHAEL BUNTING" THE INDIAN TECH MANAGER WILL SEND ME $$30000000 BECAUSE "WOW SIR YOU ARE TECH STACK #1"

How do you deal with a team that you legit don't want to support anymore? I try to keep things at a minimum but even I go a lot more "groan" whenever I do have to deal with them. Shit actually ruins my day if I have to talk to them.

>>108236515
it's basically over, bossman will rape you if you don't support the needful sars
I feel like I might be from the team you hate ngl

>>108236566
Indians are whatever, I can blame them when process gets slow. It's another team which is extremely bossy and won't take responsibility, and their VP encourages this bullshit. They'll easily pass the puck pretending oh acktually this was yours to handle and we won't make any further progress until you do.

How do I tell my boss to give me context before he texts me? It's starting to really get fucking annoying just seeing quick call?

>>108236686
Just be better at your job and you can fix it in 2 seconds over the call bud.

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well i just survived another mass layoffs.
they cancelled work today
told everyone there is a mandatory meeting at 9am.
hr lady ive never seen before comes on camera
says everyone in this meeting has not been effected and are the only remaining workers
300 others gone.
business as usual tomorrow
PTO for the rest of today

>>108236725

let me guess 300 layoff will freeze to their 2010 prius as soon as company fuel card goes cold

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Bossman thinks that he has leverage over me for a raise, but I have the ultimate hand. I don't need this job. At all.

>>108236754
im not sure what you wrote, but yes.
some folks moved states to be here. some guy was living out of a motel room for the first month.

its very bad out there.

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>company wants to interview me
>sends me an automated google calendar link to schedule a screening interview
>bunch of times are filled up (clearly they're interviewing a ton of other candidates)
>do the interview
>haven't heard back from them in a week
>check the calendar link
>can still see available interview times
>they keep getting filled up

>>108236705
okay just send me a message and I'll have it done in 5 seconds.

>>108236808
HR lady activity

>be leadership
>throw shit at a wall for years
>it never sticks
>pass go and collect 200k

I'm now a communist. Power to the people. The ruling class is retarded.

should i search for a new job or stay at my average-paying but low stress and comfy company?

>>108236902
>labor market is strong
>workers ask for raises

>labor market is weak
>companies haze you though 7 interviews, ghost you for weeks, spend 4 months interviewing before rejecting you, take 2 months to reply to a resume, AI filter you out, put you through all of these humiliation rituals and bring in the fat black women to ask you diversity questions
>finally get a job after 8 months of searching
>996 60k a year on site, mandatory 1 hour standup every day

there is a reason the median republican voter is like 55. the fact that everyone in this country under 35 isn't a full blown revolutionary is a testament to just how effective the media brainwashing is.

>>108236971
unless you are worried about your long term stability in your current company I'd definitely stay, stress is awful and ruins your health, plus this day and age is already bleak and demoralizing enough as it is

>>108236902
niggers that still glaze CEOs as they brag about how little work they do deserve the rope

>>108236992
The problem is I hate the rich but I also hate non-Whites, so neither American political party truly appeals to my sensibilities.

>>108236992
>we need gommunism because the hiring process is too long and I might have to go somewhere and attend meetings
lmao this is why you're making 60k

>>108237107
Working as intended.
Just scam someone or gamble on 0dtes like everyone else.

>>108237038
yeah i'm not worried, it's just that sometimes i wonder how's the world outside my company

>>108234473
We still have TWG?
Isn't it the fucking apocalypse for the entire tech worker industry?

Yo, ya'll need to open some umbrellas, it's about to fucking rain.

>Be me
>Work in tech
>Handful of certs, A+, Net+, CCNA, RHSA
>Work for two of the top OEM's on Earth
>Be 2015
>See AI apocalypse coming
>Leave tech field
>Learn to weld

Here's my secret sauce:
For every 2 welding students that graduate, 5 welders retire.
330,000 NEW welding jobs expected to open up by 2028.

>Why welding?
We are fairly far away from AI enabled welder replacement. Best AI humanoids can barely do a load of laundry right now.
They can't handle 1G welds on a flat table, and don't even get me started on the actual hard stuff.

Besides. New AI robots are going to break, inevitably.
Who's repairing them?

New datacenters all over the place, who's building them?

Sure, robots, eventually, but maintaining machines of metal has always been a welder's job.

Being a human doctor has value.
Soon, being a robot doctor will have value.

Who are the robot doctors?
^
If you want to jump ship early on the tech industry, before you have to fight all the other lemmings, get into welding NOW.

You'll be behind if you wait 12-24 months from now.
If you're looking at the grim, unyielding approach, of the end of your career, at the hands of clankers and clanker advancement, here's your one golden ticket sign.

Go down with the ship, or get out on a speedboat. Your call.

>>108236515
>>108236668
Like this is the shit I'm talking about I just got an email from them today:
>Hello Anon,
>I've been asked to engage you by the business in that you will need to create this functionality for this project we are working and the business requires this by this date. Please let me know ASAP as to when it can be completed.
>Cheers,
Like they aren't my boss or anything and they don't really involve us until AFTER their planning is done and while yeah I can do it, it's more like what the fuck man don't plan your shit and push things our pipeline without consulting us first.

>>108237139
Buddha wanted to see the world outside his comfy palace too, and what he found was pain and misery

>>108237214
It's just the way they word things, I don't mind doing it but the fact they write their emails like they're demanding me is triggering my fucking autism or something. I don't know, Am I justified in being ticked off from this? Most of the time it's small asks and I can have it pushed into production by the end of the week but again it's just the whole telling us to do shit without engaging us first or even a can this be done type thing.

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>>108237204
Mind you, I'm not out of tech.
It's just not my bread maker.

What's going to make me more money, this Strix Halo system, or that MIG corner joint?
^

Tech is now on hobby status.
Welding is where the money gets made.
Doesn't mean, I can't play with local AI and do what I want.
No boss. No corporate.
Just me, and a completely blank page. I can code whatever I want.

Life is cushy, fun, and I hope none of you guys are dead ending into tech on false hope.
If you don't make your escape route, no one else will.

>>108237204
If you're actually worried about AGI in 2 weeks just buy Google stock or something.
It'll go to infinity and there'll be no need to work.

>>108237269
how can i quickly pivot to welding

>>108237278
Most welding certification programs are 18-24 months for all inclusive.
Stick, TIG, MIG.

There are standalone welding certifications, where you pay money and go pass a test. D11

How you go is your choice. There are options.
Multi-process welding units that are decent cost $700-1500.

You can get a full welding setup, and protective gear, for less money than you have to spend to get a decent PC these days.

Just take care, it's more dangerous than a bench tech job. You aren't worried about ESD, you're worried about toxic fumes, molten steel spatter, sparks, and arc flashes.
All issues alleviated with proper gear and safety.
Don't be a dumbass, and it's not any harder than laptop repair, in practice.

>>108237304
welders salary is 500 euro a month here

>>108237304
As a guy who's done both fields.

Cell phone repair and laptop repair are more tedious than most weldments.

If you can handle that type of tech work, you will probably find welding relaxing and easy after a little practice.
You'll need to develop your 3D awareness for fabrication/construction a bit.
Welding work is real world, but it's a skill, which means there are tons of tricks.
Let's be honest, most of the blue collar welder guys aren't knowledgeable on the kinds of things you guys are.
They don't think about the EMF fields, though they should. They don't think about how the MIG circuit wire spool being physically fed, equates the wire feed speed to amperage, because the moving wire in physical space, is still just electrons moving through a point in space. (In MIG you adjust wire feed speed, instead of amperage. Functionally the same, both are just the amount of electrons moving through a space, if you're moving the entire wire that contains the electrons, that's current still.)

The only thing better than a welder at welding is a smarter welder.
There aren't clankers in the field yet, meaning if you're a smart human, you can get in and out perform.

>>108237331
For aluminum TIG, I very much doubt that shit.

For factory MIG, yeah.

There are levels of welding.
Ain't no way in hell you're paying the TIG guys that low, or the 6G pipe welders.

If their pay is that low, you have a national issue.

why are tradies here?

>>108237390
Shilling their courses.

>Monday to Tuesday
>Freaking out about high expectations and too much to do
>Finish everything Wednesday
>Realize I was worried for nothing
>Nothing to do
>Might go home and goon
>Will repeat next week

Why does nobody really reply or talk about work scenarios or having to deal with work but if it's all about work "politics" as in the social economic factors of work suddenly everyone is a fucking expert in that. It's the one thing I fucking hate about this general.

>>108237613
What are you rambling about?

>>108237613
There's a limited amount of conversation you can have about the "real work" topics at the water cooler with people who don't know the full technical context of your work

complaining about office politics is universally engage-able

>>108237767
Oh yes yes JEEEEEEEEEETS WOMENNNNNNNN WHY WONT MY WIFE LOVE MEEEEE over and over and over again
perfect

>>108237772
Do you really want to hear about my "real work" aka me changing a bunch of config files and dragging my feet reviewing PRs all day?

>>108235595
You can just say you addressed the comments. Those 2 human reviewers will never look at your PR so as far as they're concerned you addressed all the pedantic AI comments.

>>108237772
What do you want me to do? Break my NDA by talking about the specific projects and technologies I'm using at work? That's not interesting anyway. If work were just implementing UI widgets to the specification then there would be nothing to talk about.
My supervisors being out of touch retards that don't understand technology in a technology company? That's something to discuss. Those same retards turning my office into Mumbai? Note worthy.

>>108237853
>My supervisors being out of touch retards that don't understand technology in a technology company? That's something to discuss. Those same retards turning my office into Mumbai? Note worthy.
That's what I'm talking about though. Nobody talks about this, everyone just talks about I CANT GET A JOB JEEEEEEEEEETS WOMENNNN INDIANNNNNNNNNNNNNN AIIIIIIIIIIIII but it's such in a broad sense, even if you get into details you just get left on read. you ask for advice? left on read. it's not if you're just in a broad FUCKKKK INDIANS FUCK WOMEN FUCKKK AIII you actually want to respond.

>>108237869
>>108237772
Only a jeet would seethe this hard about all this

>>108237869
>My supervisors being out of touch retards that don't understand technology in a technology company
You're the one out of touch, junior. The technology company isn't really about technology. It's about money and people like everything else. Your office is being turned into Mumbai because it's cheaper in the short term and looks good for the people who did it.

>>108237883
This board is infested with seething jeets.

>>108237920
??????????

>>108237981
?

>>108237920
>You're the one out of touch, junior.
You have eyes but cannot see Mount Tai.

>>108237920
And that's a good thing!

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>>108238024
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Do I really have to do the help desk humiliation ritual to work in IT. Redditors told me it's not possible to enter anywhere else even with certs.

>>108237772
Politics are a very significant factor in our jobs though, and so are women.

Right now tech is very unregulated. Let me explain, doctors make most of their money through extortion, in the sense that the government is enforcing license requirements to be a doctor, which limits their competition. They do this to make sure doctors have certain standards and are skilled of course, but are they overdoing it by not letting more people study medicine, deliberately? I think they probably are. Same with landlords, and actually a lot of people who make money.

Tech workers are not the same way. The only "license" we have that other people don't is literally the fact that programming involves some problem solving and can't be learned by repetition. If it could, we would not be employed and everything software related would be done in india since the 90s.

Now should it be regulated, so we can make more money via extortion like landlords and doctors? Well some people think it should. I'm not sure. Everyone else seems to be doing it, and we seem to be the ones having free market competition.

As to women. Everyone knows they're stupid and very bad programmers. And them being in our offices just makes them a hostile place for ugly nerds, because they want to "get the creeps out eww". Some women explicitly admit to ask HR to hire men who are likeable turbonormies as opposed to dorks who would be competent and make things work.

>>108237390
Im alive for another 30 years.

Do I want to toil on tech, jumping through hoops for some corporation, taking trainings that are glorified PowerPoint slides about how to not be retarded?

Or...
Learn a skill that's so valuable, it's recession proof, AI proof, boons in warfare or industrial development, AND is growing BECAUSE of the AI boom taking tech jobs?

Idunno, tough decision, let me go pass this phishing training and this password safety module really quick, then I'll think about it.

>Tech worker holdouts aren't brainlets, they're just comfy.

I'm here, so if one of you has your day today, where the comfy disappears, I'm telling you where to find it again.

I was hired to modernize a legacy Java banking app with a small, long-term team. The app is painfully slow and dated. Surprisingly, my senior dev buddy supports updating it, but I want to ensure the rest of the team feels respected rather than forced.

My background is Next.js/TS. A friend in fintech loves Rust, and I’m considering pushing for that. I do not know the language yet, but I am confident we could learn it quickly. The alternative is choosing something that is easier for Java developers to transition to.

>Just stay on Java.
I dislike Java and believe Rust is a stronger marketing sell as a modern stack.

>>108238057
JYK

>>108238057
>Do I really have to do the help desk humiliation ritual to work in IT
You don't sound desperate enough for this job market.

a-azure bros...?

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If you're currently in school for tech:

You're retarded.

If you're currently working in tech:
Enjoy it.
You'll be in /utwg/, shitting it up and bitching about how HR roasties are wasting your time as you fruitlessly try to look for another job.

>>108235991
Indeed, she plays rainbow six and league too despite being generally shy, and took a day off work once to watch her favourite league team compete

>>108238308
i'm so fucking jealous of zoomers
girl gamers were a rarity in my time

>>108238308
You should just give her those passwords she keeps asking about bro, it's fine. She's chill.

>>108238432
they're all stupid whores

>>108238432
Zoomer girls that are now in their late teens/early 20s love mature cock bro

>>108238467
What passwords

>>108238227
What? Is it down? I hope it is.

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>>108238287
what do you do?
I just picked tech because its the only (un)marketable skill I have.

>>108238669
I'm unemployed for a year after getting laid off and working Help Desk for only 6 months.

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>>108238287
surely it depends on the school you're at

>>108238681
>getting shitcanned from helpdesk the easiest job in the world
Literally how

>>108238718
Company wanted to save money by offshoring all helpdesk positions over seas.

>>108235414
The way I see it, AGI is functionally achieved when you no longer require a tard wrangler in between the product owner and the software. We aren't there yet but we've already reached the point where less devs are needed overall.

>>108238076
Rust is for trannies. Switch to Kotlin as that makes the entire Java ecosystem bearable.

>>108238828
all coding/programming is for trannies.

>>108238834
The average programmer thinks about sucking dick sometimes. The average Rustranny is currently in the process of transitioning in order to become the bottom bitch of some mystery meat.

>>108234924
this supposed to be a ylyl thread?

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H1B Visa Restrictions

AI Crash

>>108238905
TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY TUMMY

>>108238931
I know they're pretty cute right

Glad to know it's over

>>108235825
what is worse is that they genuinely believe it is in their best interest to use it... far worse is the fact that a part of that population believes consumer side stuff is possible of practical ai applications, when in actual reality it is just a novelty that masks itself as learning intellingence, it didn't learn shit, it just regurgitated what was already out on the public search engines, and it loosely sticks to a percent of concetrated context which only degrades every prompt... that is not intellence by a mile... it is just a broader search engine.

>>108238701
This is just some bitter bozo who got shit canned recently or never had a job. Tech isn't what it was but there are still jobs

>>108238931
those are children

>>108239029
Konata is 18

>>108239029
out of 10!

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>>108238949
it's so pathetic. my manager loves it and uses it to write up bullshit that doesn't even make any sense. i ain't reading all that if you couldn't bother to write it.

>>108238949
It doesn't really matter if it is intelligent or not. What matters is whether it can produce consistent and good results for inputs and maybe even suggest input improvements.

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Don't come here and take our jobs. Go home. Make your own tech companies. Make your own jobs. Go home.

>>108239028
yeah i feel if you're at a target it's not much different than 2018 levels

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Make an AI company with your own money. Stop putting out terrible code. Stop programming. Get a job.

>>108238432
6 year age gap isn't that bad

>feedback about inane bullshit out of nowhere
This nigga finna fire me, isn't he? Should I update my LinkedIn?

>>108239069
Yep, we also have one guy who refers to Claude Code as his buddy and floods all Teams channels with schizophrenic nonsense nobody bothers to read anymore.

LLM psychosis is real and seems to capture people who are prone to religious thinking and gambling addiction.

>>108238681
sucks man. I understand your cynicism completely. but I am also too invested in this play to turn back. if I die, I die. wouldn't be any point in doing anything else anyway.
on my first internship, paid thankfully.

>>108239145
kek

>>108239145
wish you could block internal people or at least hide/filter their schizobabble nonsense in chat. that's painful

>>108239136
I hate Americans and their granny fetish so much.

Honestly the priority shifting is killing me. My higher exec keeps changing shit and then now a project he kept on pause for like 3 weeks has to now launch next week, did we have business sign off? no. Does he care? Not really. I just do what he asks but my boss and my exec keep fucking nitpicking on the work and I'm just like bro you just wanted a proof of concept 3 weeks ago, now you want it production ready in a week with AGAIN NO FUCKING BUSINESS SIGN OFF OR REVIEW?
God man this is so retarded but I should just empty my brain and just do shit.

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>>108239145
fuck, same.
the director of sales is sending me AI genned peptalks for himself about what he can talk about in his meetings, that his boss prompted for him, lmfao.
what is this shit.
I've had this multiple times now and its never even remotely relevant to what I'm doing either, so I just fob it off with,
>thanks for the additional perspective!
its like they have brain damage.

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>>108239158
Keep your sympathies.
Dont worry, you'll get to experience my pain as well soon.

How do i be good at laravel, unity, excel, drawing, animation, and japanese at the same time

>>108239434
>my boss likes thing so now i like thing!
fucking lol.
at least you have a good strategy to deal with it

I've had a retard use chatGPT in voice-to-text mode in an interview last week, motherfucker was just reading output from the screen, made me think of this thread

I also couldn't recall a single thing he said right after the interview man I fucking hate this decade so much

i approved a pr that caused an incident lol

>>108239526
Oh yeah while exercising and lifting weights too. Lets add that shall we?

>rant about work
no replies
>talk about completely something completely unrelated about work and it has to do with trannies/jeets/women/anime
>100+ replies
nice

Do people really use Kubernetes all that much?

>>108239729
People use Kubernetes but have no idea how to use it. They don't actually understand how it works. Make no mistake, it's being used and is a useful tool to understand.

>>108239803
Good place to study there? Or good course of Udemy?

>>108235254
It definitely feels like Ai wrote it.

Any Europeans here? How difficult would it be for an American to find a job in Europe? I have 13 years of experience in DevOps.

I've been looking at englishjobs.de and other similar sites.

>>108234473
>Shut down for maintenance for a week, boss tells us all to work from home
>Some faggot from security asks our boss if we can come in to help them escort the maintenance crews
>Boss says yes, wfh week cancelled
I am malding, seething, etc

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>>108240320
Same questions but I'm South American and want to work in the US.

>>108235242
What does your uncle say when you finally bring this story to him?

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>>108235778
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>>108235778
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>>108234924
I wonder who this semen demon is

>>108234935
>DevOps
Can someone post good DevOps content because I'm really trying to form better impressions.

>see fatal crash on the way to work
>probably some guy that was driving to a job he hates
If this happens to me my family should be able to sue my employer
On the basis that my job could have been done from home but they made me drive in anyway

Anons, what are your 'Plan B'?

what industries let me park my ass on an ultrascale+ (soon versal) and set up board configurations and write real time and application software on small / medium size teams? I'm currently doing this with defence work but I'm going to move to the US and clearances are basically out of the question as a non-citizen (despite holding the exact same clearances already...)

>>108241298
Actually your employer should be able to sue the guilty party for costing them shareholder value.

>>108241251
That's a man.

My company will start using AI to calculate the monetary cost of a P1. Man hours, customer impact, operational cost, etc.

>>108241453
Fuck yeah, even better

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>was going to quit this week
>chickened out
i'm such a worthless pussy piece of shit

>>108234473
Bros I’m about to exploit my network again for another job hop for higher pay. Yet again to an early stage startup which I will remain at for a few years before leaving for another one

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>>108234473
>New grad
>Smok weed every day
>Just got kudos at meeting at new first job

utwg will return
you cannot keep us down forever

>>108241808
Networking is the only way, that's how I got my current job and a reference is likely what will get me my next job since without it you're just another uninteresting name in a pile of resumes.

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>started job hunt 3 weeks ago
>applied to 1 internal job listing
>interviewed last week
>got an offer today
it is literally that easy

>>108241800
I've been telling myself that I'm quitting for the past year. And I probably will for the next year too.

>>108241821
I got my job randomly off indeed and despite everyone being ex-mil i have never met or heard of any of these niggas in my life (nor they of me)

i think i'm going to tell my boss i'm going to quit if he doesn't give me a raise

I've hit the inflection point between the honeymoon period wearing off and being acquainted enough but not an expert yet so stuff is uninteresting. how do i keep my morale and work ethic up at my new job. it's support

[spoiler]even the folded up helicopter in its bright orange REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT lingerie is not as sexy as it used to be[/spoiler]

>>108234572
>Write a "mousemover" Software, but after 10 min or so, it starts teams and starts messaging everyone in the list "I am a lazy fucking piece of shit, gooning to underage hentai doujins while I work and purposefully ignoring incoming requests and mails."
https://github.com/ZaDarkSide/ArrangeByPenis

>>108240320
Haloa I'm from Nicaragua and have the same question about the US, than you gringos

>>108241296
devops isnt real

>>108241303
becoming a tailor, building a fixed-wing drone and starting an aerial surveillance company, or selling weed edibles but actually good

>>108241298
Fun Fact: In the Canadian military, you can actually do this.

Travel to and from a military activity is counted as military activity, so if you get injured during it and it's not your direct fault, you can file claims as if you were hurt while on duty. You don't get a medal or anything, but you can get the fabled Pension For Life Medical Release if you get fucked up in a car accident on the way to a parade or something like that.

>>108241987
in this market? LOOOL

>>108242123
i'm actually good at my job and someone he can't afford to lose

>>108242139
in this market? LOOOL

>>108242139
you will be replaced before you leave the room

>>108234924
lol but im pretty sure i got my job by saying that i briefly had a netbook dual-booting XP and Ubuntu 12.04

I asked my immediate boss what my competition was like and shit was fucking dire

>>108242148
>>108242154
whatever you say lol

I've been pretending to understand my job for eight months and I think I've finally reached a level where I actually can't fake it anymore. Do I come clean to my boss or just keep going.
So for context, I have a master's degree in something completely unrelated to this job, I got hired because I interviewed well and apparently "fast learner" on a CV is legally binding. Eight months in and I've been surviving entirely on confident nodding, strategic use of the phrase "let me circle back on that," and a browser history that is just Stack Overflow and "what is [word my boss just said]." The issue is that up until now the stakes have been low enough that vibes could carry me. That era has ended. There is a meeting on Monday with actual numbers and actual questions and my boss just told me I'm "leading it" in a tone that suggested he thinks that's a reward. I have four days. I don't know if I should come clean, speed-run eight months of learning in 96 hours, or simply walk into the ocean. What should I do?

>>108242253
>speed-run eight months of learning in 96 hours,
You act like something will stick lol. The brain doesn't work like that. This isnt highschool when you can cram a test overnight

>>108242272
>This isnt highschool when you can cram a test overnight
nta but how is it any diff

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>work on a military base
>ride an e-bike to work
>everyone makes fun of my Beloved Shitheap Alleged Vehicle
there is literally a nigga(actual race unknown) who has e621 stickers on his car and no one talks shit about that, why is my clapped out scooter not only the second most embarrassing thing next to the flight line and is in fact #1 shit-talked vehicle

there is even another dude who regularly e-bikes in (though his is purpose-built and way nicer and he doesn't do it when it's snowing)

>>108242253
i have pretty regular crises of conscience like that at night but then i go in the next day and my own boss is at some point like "I don't know how this works, no one knows how this works"

back when i was sailing more actively there was a common piece of advice about "Sea Training"/"work-ups" -- if someone in a red hat* asks you a question, and you don't know the answer, the correct answer is "I'll find out."
it's been a common joke for ages that any manner of tech work from customer support to writing something one step up from an outright electrical diagram is mostly combing through documentation, but really it's true.

however, in talking, we come to the crux of the matter
>my boss just told me I'm "leading it" in a tone that suggested he thinks that's a reward. I have four days. I don't know if I should come clean, speed-run eight months of learning in 96 hours,
I would ask the boss what the meeting is very specifically about and go line by line through the agenda to figure out a plan. even if you did have encyclopedic knowledge, you would at least need cue cards for a presentation. and for all you've told us, it could just be an overview of specs and budgets. all the more reason to just get those hard numbers as currently recorded, do some casual sanity checking, and do some experimentation only on the stuff that doesn't make immediate sense

>>108242285
gpt

>>108242285
dress in tight pants to show off your big round ass and no one will laugh anymore uwu

>>108242253
>>108242277
>>108242285
actually to give a recent real world but lower stakes example
>have a mostly normal day at work
>boss says "How about you write the status report tonight"
>"how about I write it, send it to you, and you forward it if it makes sense"
>write it
>even sober, it's a little schizo, as per my posting
>"anon this shit you sent me is very informative about X but everything about Y makes no sense"
>"yeah well I didn't get the reports from Y and don't really know what went on"
>"ok anon, i'll talk to the guys, clearly you're not on some mailing list yet because there are detailed reports about it"
training objective complete, lessons learned, will be implemented, fission mailed we'll get em' next time

>>108242307
im a big fat mutt but it's -15 out so I am wearing 21 pants (i also do anal)

>>108242285
>>108242322
Kill yourself furnigger. Stop fucking posting your inane faggotry.

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>>108242378
No.

How is there people able to make a living 2-4x above their country minimum salary with just react and js while lots of us has to be good at literally everything, working 60 hrs week and more, while making minimum wage or even less?

>>108242416
the market is irrational

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>>108242416
I am a poor fag making 140k USD in a medium cost of living state. I am not making it.

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>>108242416
I demonstrated a bare minimum of competence after being in the armed forces for about four years of actual full-time work, and before that two or three years or so of part-time stuff

>>108242416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHeA9q19Mc

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What did you want to do as a kid?

Was it really to sit in an office cooooding?

>>108242514
I never knew what I wanted to do that's why I'm only starting my first full time job at 26 after working dogshit part time shit at grocery stores

>>108242514
I always wanted to work outside in nature. Or be a pro snowboarder.
But here I am. Fuck this gay earth.

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>>108242487
do IT niggas in army/navy/af get to go close near the war machines?
or is it mostly doing cables and server stuff in the barracks?

>>108239582
not as bad as my coworkers telling AI "install *" and one of them ending up with a different software that was trying to phone home so info sec had to get involved

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>>108242531
>do IT niggas in army/navy/af get to go close near the war machines?
I served on a ship for years and got a job at a helicopter trainer later

neither have been very interesting in retrospect

>>108242585
aw that sucks
IT truly is cock and ball torture

>>108242531
>>108242585
Furniggers should die.

>>108242596
I'm buying my fursuit this year

>>108242464
>>108242466
>>108242487
what tech stack are you using? how many frameworks and tools you have to be good at in your current job? what do you do outside work?

>>108242514
game art, game ui, game programming
coof happened, parents constantly fighting ever since the millenia begun. it's over for me. i ping pong between excel and learning japanese right now daily.

>>108242522
where do you live? there's no such thing as part time grocery store here. it's always fulltime. the part time jobs are being a hawker or dishwasher. do you code right away before/after your shift?

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>>108242596
everybody lies, everybody dies

>>108242615
I'm in Australia, I was doing the overnight shift so the pay was actually quite good, I was earning more per hour then than I am now
problem is it was casual work, so no set shifts and I was working 1-2 days a week
I genuinely had no ambition and wanted to die for 3 years after graduating
but now I have full time work doing technical support for an ISP while trying to upskill in my free time, at least I already have an IT related bachelor's degree

>>108242615
this post glows

>>108242615
>what do you do outside work?
im a real mothaphuckin G
banking
I specialize in ganking

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THE SKY ABOVE THE CLOUDS, A RAINBOW THAT FATE HAS DEVOURED

>>108242629
>technical support for an ISP
How did you get the job
What did you practice for it
What kind of upskilling you do right now? Why would you do that over socializing, gaming, all that crap?

>>108243158
>how did you get that job
I applied to a shitload of helpdesk/technical support jobs
>what did you practice for it
nothing, I referenced skills from my bachelors degree
>What kind of upskilling you do right now?
networking certs, cybersecurity certs, programming
>Why would you do that over socializing, gaming, all that crap?
I spent the last 3 years gaming and rotting, I’ve had enough of that for a lifetime

I'm so sleepy since I quit my last job, I can't even imagine being at the office at 9am. I'm also almost 40, it feels almost like being slightly disabled.

>>108240320
Shouldn't be too hard depending on the country, Germany and UK probably the easiest. You'll have better work life balance and employment protections but won't have the salary you do in the US so bear that in mind.

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>>108242514
Not something I gave much thought to, settled on a job in tech at 16, currently quite happy being a coooooder. Not a dream career kike being a rockstar or anything but it is pretty comfy and pays alright compared to most the stuff people are doing. Still sometimes I feel like I could be doing a bit more with my life, y'know?

>>108243234
*Like
Lmao

>>108243186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vLozYIT_s

>thursday
HOLD THE LINE

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>API Error: 404 {"type":"error","error":{"type":"not_found_error","message":"No Claude models with Messages API available"}}
How am I supposed to work now?

>>108243335
I can almost taste Friday. My goal for this month was to abstain from all vices. I can't fucking wait for Sunday.

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I've been at my new job for about a month and don't know how to feel. All of my coworkers are nice, I have a decent salary, it's remote, not a lot of meetings, but it's a bit disorganised and it's kinda vague as to what I'm supposed to be doing at any given moment. At the moment I'm just kinda doing random fixes here and there as I wait for code reviews to go through. The team is very small so if someone gets sick, you're not merging anything to the master branch. The codebase is also a big mess and has quite a lot of deferred maintenance, performance issues, etc.

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What are some good resources to learn Kubernetes, anons? Preferably with labs.

>>108243548
You propose to fix all that. Probably won't get approved, but at least they'll know you care.

>>108243548
sounds like literally every software company except yours is just small

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>>108235493
>>108235505
>>108235512
>>108235539
>>108235541
I've decided to take the offer thanks twg

I literally do not care about this shit anymore. I want out of tech but i have no idea what id do instead. I dont want to start a business and i dont want to do fucking anything. I spent 5 fucking years getting into a devops role and the contract is ending in July. this field is for fucking faggots, always some linkedin chink or pajeet telling you that you have to do a million projects just to sit there and be at the mercy of some roastie fresh out of school. Fuck this shit

>>108244206
I wanted to be a writer.

>>108244240

Same anon, that was my big talent in school. But there weren't very many pathways to guaranteed income with it. I wonder if it's even shittier now with AI spamming whatever.

>>108244265
It is. Only stuff selling is women erotica made with AI. It hursts. Do you know that Adam Sandler movie where he's at a hearing with a bunch of butchers and cattle peddlers? He turns to them and asks what they wanted to be when they grew up. Some wanted to be veterinarians. I understand that movie now.

>>108244290

Writing used to have a big market. There were hardly any other alternate forms of entertainment so everyone was reading after work. Sad we basically missed our time. At this point it would have to be for the love of the game.

>>108244093
Check out courses on KodeKloud.

>>108244301
We'll probably get even more suicidal if we switch now.

been with my team 6 years, 3 since an acquisition. post-buyout they made the other guy senior and kept me as a regular dev even though we do the exact same work. asked for the title change a while back (didn't even ask for a raise) and got hit with "we don't want too many seniors on one team."
our lead just quit. instead of finally promoting me, management is hiring an external senior dev. the absolute worst part? they told me I have to interview the candidates as a "learning experience."
is it normal to interview your own superior? feels like I'm getting completely cucked. they want me to do senior-level technical evaluations for a guy who's going to outrank me and make way more money. I want to walk out but the market is complete dogshit right now. what do I even do here anons, just do the bare minimum and grind leetcode?

>>108244356
HR hates you. Did you piss off someone?

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I am once again asking if anyone else applied to the Tech Force and made it to the interview stage

>>108244375
My sexy wife

>>108244372
we don't even have a formal HR department. it's literally just a 3-man dev team. before we got bought out, all three of us had the exact same title. then new management stepped in and decided we needed a "formal structure." the oldest guy got lead, the guy who had been here literally just a few months longer than me got senior, and I got stuck at base dev.
their official excuse was "we can't have a 3-man team where two of them are seniors" so I got arbitrarily shafted to the bottom of the totem pole. so it's not HR, it's just braindead management forcing a corporate hierarchy on a tiny team.

>>108244392
They have something against you. The game is a lot more human than you realize.

>>108244375
okay well never mind, I got my answers from reddit
>these guys take forever to interview
>people are reporting 8-11 days between the screening and being told they're passing onto the next round
>im pretty far back in the queue because I took forever to finish the coding test (mainly because I had zero expectations of actually passing)
grim

>>108244392
I would be looking for a different job. That would make me fucking seethe.

I might crash out and quit my job and go neet until i run outta money and the kms boys

>>108244513
Why proactively quit instead of stopping work until you get fired in that case?

>>108244601
Because my local coworkers are all great and I’m not going to grief them, its the international management overhead that’s pants on head turbojeeted retarded clown shit that makes the job unworkable

>>108244513
I spent about half of 2025 being a NEET and I've got to say, it can get pretty fucking dull sometimes. If you do go NEETmode fine a hobby or two that you can do with other people and get turbo into it. Also don't kill yourself, that's mega gay when you could be making the lives of normies worse

>>108244620
From their perspective you quitting vs stopping contributing is the same thing, the only difference is whether you can pocket 1-2 extra months paycheques

>>108242514
video games

>>108242531
Being IT in the military is a waste of time. God help you if you get stuck working in an S6 shop under a non-Signal Battalion.

>>108242514
I was done with my work today in 45 minutes
Thinking about it - this is better than I had imagined

>>108244755
go play in traffic autie

>>108244447
Think in this way: if you were a woman you'd want to suck cock.
>but I'd be lesbian!
No such thing. Every lesbian would open their legs for Chad. If drunk enough not even Chad.

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>>108244983
>working attached to some other unit instead of the main job you are tasked to do
In the airforce thats real hit and miss since you do alot more people's jobs and can add speciality stuff to your resume. Then on the other hand not working your main job really hampers you if your job is Networking, Radio/Radar/Satellite, and Server Admin. I was a networking tech so i played alot of catch up in the basecom(main communications unit) by doing a fuckload of work.

>>108245224
I wouldn't have a problem with this if I were female. Life as a male is pointless

>>108245224
Lesbians during their ovulation are the likeliest to be out and about trying to fuck a random dude. I blame them for spreading aids since they fuck bisexuals in their faggot space.

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>manager of a team of contractors
>one of them started joining remote meetings dressed like some gym dudebro (pic related)
What do? Should I pull him to the side and tell him the clothes he's wearing are inappropriate? Report to HR?

>>108245282
If you joined the Army specifically to do IT stuff but get attached to a unit that does not care about your job or think its important, you WILL be wasting your time atleast until you become an NCO.

>>108245314
Who really cares? I'd only say something if he showed up shirtless.

>>108245314
sounds based AF you mad fat boy?

>>108242416
react is pretty complex wdym

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>>108245322
Thats torture. So i assume its alot of sitting at the gate, motorpool mondays, connex layouts, and command sending your ass to special duty assignments like drill Sgt and recruiting whenever the needs of the military comes down the pipeline.

How much of your project is vibe coded?

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>social media Californian IT company
>99% of FTEs are Indian and Chinese
>contractors are mostly white latinos
Guess the company.

>>108234935
E=mc2+AI-tier shit.

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If my next interview doesnt result in a job i'm gonna become a train driver i dont really care anymore

>>108245375
Instagram or Snapchat.

>>108245375
X, Meta, Pinterest

>>108245364
You nailed it.

The process of also obtaining certifications CCNA or Sec + while you're in is also retarded so good luck with that.

>another 90 minute bazinga meeting about which file format we want our deliverables to be in
I'd rather be in a coal mine at this point

>lazy fatass network guy getting mad because i make him work
>tries to make me ask chatgpt about the issue
I need a new job

>>108236015
Kek americans, not even once.

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>its just another layer of abstraction

LinkedIn needs to die immediately

>>108245411
IKR such a pain in the ass to get certifications approved for work use even though my 6 month long tech school covered CCNA and college level Electronic Engineering courses. Atleast college was somewhat free within the military so i got my Associates degree before getting out to save my GI bill.

I am a zoomer super genius.
I have been learning Python since my middle school "boot camp."
My role is to get hired and spend a year "developing" """"tools""""" and """""APIs""""" that literally no one on the team uses but seem really impressive to management.

>>108245471
Don't care, didn't ask, fuck off to /utwg/

Anyone work in fintech?
Do they allow using AI agents or chat gpt?
They have plenty of technologies that are new to me and impostor syndrome hit me hard, and I want to use AI for help.

>>108245491
It's like tech but even more high status. That's why I targeted it.

>>108237772
Saar spotted.

>>108238060
Fuck off, Harry Potter.

>VP creates a monthly "chat" where people can sign up and kiss ass
>no one signs up
>his secretary has to constantly pester people to sign up so he doesn't lose izzat
lulz

>>108243206
I am considering Germany, Czechia, Sweden, and northern Italy. And whichever one I pick, I will start learning that language.

>>108245683
Italians are fine proper assholes. Also northern part of italy is the best so if you are a US citizen you should consider a US military contract to live out there fantastic pay compared to the locals but its not gangbusters like a korean contract would feel like.

>>108245759
>>108245759
>>108245759
>>108245759
move

Ah yes, having to rescue a Windows disk by making a disk image, mount it into my work laptop, make a copy of that backup as an original and then slowly remove or replace everything that exists in that partition that made it unbootable for a medical facility that really needs it.
Why do medical people never think about making backups regularly?
I fucking hate these people, it will cost a lot for them, then they will complain it costs so much.
Why not just pay some money on the side and set up a veeam backup routine to back up that shit to a nas at least regularly on a 7 to 14 day basis?