Kek
>>108255810>let me just authenticate my credentials in a fucking tty after formatting my drives and generating an fstabare these people real?
>*spoofs your 'age verification' thingy*
>>108255810US elites want to automate and scale up their pedo rings operations?
>>108255836Most people have no idea what the fuck you even said means.
>>108255845>US elites want to automate and scale up their pedo rings operations?Bro, its been automated for years. Jeffery Epstein was rocking LLM's for that shit back in 2015. Ben Goertzel set it up for him.
Americancer won't be affect FOSS and will instead become unsupported/unauthorized territory.
>>108255810those boomers are getting dementia, for sure
When you're installing a distro it asks if you want to use a proxy before you even connect to the internet. The bypass is already built in
>>108255810this includes routers.and washing machinesand toastersand anything that runs an "operating system".you vill age verify your 4 port managed switch, goyim
>>108255810Just exclude commiefornians
>>108255810
Who cares about that literally-who 3rd world country?
>>108256094Old and inaccurate.
>Californians
>>108255810I created good looking concept for age verification on linux desktop with KDE desktop environment. Still in alpha, it crashed after clicking OK
>>108256011Outside of Red Hat and Google, I don't know if any major distros are developed in California anymore.Mostly this will affect Android which will probably be the breaking point for a huge portion of the customer base.
>>108256214Good enough, ship it.
>>108255810>some formCouldn't they just make a little field that asks you to enter your date of birth and be done with it?
>>108255810Uhm how do you enforce that shit. Like anyone can spoof or bypass that step just changing the code.Those fucking morons are getting desperate and retarded by the day.
>>108256257does it need to be developed in california, or is it required if a product is sold/used there?my understanding is that this will kill any piece of electronic equipment that runs the linux kernel, like all of the existing routers in the state.
>>108256214>Still in alpha, it crashed after clicking OKlel
thread already exists.>>108248106
>>108256330They want an API that allows software to query the user's age from the OS.I'm strongly against any any form of compliance to this retarded law, because once such an API is in place then they will start legislating how to ensure the age is real.This is how you lose your freedoms, one piece at a time.
Seems like bad news for Red Hat and literally no one else.
Good luck enforcing that on any server os with no ui
torrenting old linux ISOs is no longer a meme
>>108256214perfect for gorgeous looks okay
>>108256393It reached bump limit retard
>>108256372>my understanding is that this will kill any piece of electronic equipment that runs the linux kernel, like all of the existing routers in the stateimplying they'll be able to enforce it at all and this isn't just a boomer's fever dream of a bill
Damn. We will be like some oldies telling about the time when there were no speed limits, seat belt laws, or DUI laws.
>>108256372It's not so much whether the law applies only to distros developed in California, but whether distro developers outside California and Colorado give a shit or not (they won't).Only companies will care about running "illegal distros", and if that limits their choices too much, they will just move their operations to another state.End users will follow the law the same way they card for ciggies and alcohol, never do drugs, never download torrents, and live in the country illegally by the tens of millions.If the law is too vague to make an exception for non-user-devices, it will die or get modified in court.
>>108256341doesn't matter. when 95% normies conform it's easier to squeeze you.
>>108255810This is the most retarded shit ever.How exactly are computer labs or data centers with tens or hundreds of thousands computers going to set this shit up? Use your private ID for a business that will sell you out for a penny? Hell nah.What about an embedded / headless server you set up as an independent contractor for a customer that needs to boot, login and start custom software automatically? What if some chucklefuck breaks into the system a decade later because your customer was a mouth breathing retard and didn't upgrade the hardware that contained an unpatchable hardware issue, who is liable when that chucklefuck starts cheesing?What if civilization collapses and the servers that gatekeep you are unreachable forever?This is mindbogglingly retarded, ANY centralization of the setup of a device you own is fucking retarded.They did not think this shit through in the slightest; boomer politicians and the people that put those politicians into power deserve biblical curses.>>108256463I'm an early Zoomer and gained consciousness / have memories to times that were just right before TSA became a thing, I remember watching 9/11 as a kid on live TV. Late gen Zoomers are taken aback when I tell them about this.
Cant we just make a dummy interface and tell those boomers thats what they wanted? like those sitcoms making fun of normies. It will be hilarious.
>>108256463It's the opposite, seatbelt laws are universal, age gate laws are just segregating a social underclass so they can extract value from them. Kids can't pay for products so it's better to have them work in games like roblox/fortnite/minecraft and harvest data from themAdults can pay so it's better to keep them away from those games and towards paying for services and products.
>>108256404probably doesn't mean anything to redhat. they can load up some ridiculous identity verification program and make their customers deal with it. just complying with the law, goyim.it does mean quite a bit to everyone else in this jewish shithole since every other state is going to adopt it, and the consequences are an unknown right now.
>>108255810Can't wait until a 6 year old has to call 911 because daddy is having a heart attack, but the smartphone OS refuses to let him on because he's underage
Soviet cybernetics in the 1960s-1980s envisioned the future of computing not as personal devices, but as a vast, centralized, hierarchical network of terminals connected to massive, shared mainframes. Terminals were seen as automated workplaces or "intelligent" interfaces for accessing distributed databases and planning resources, enabling a "real-time" planned economy.
This is bad news for TempleOS fans
>>108256599>it does mean quite a bit to everyone elseFucking how, exactly? "add age verification or you won't be able to sell your product in California" doesn't really work for 99.9% of the distros.
age verification is so stupid and lazyget a real plan
I like how this gets packaged as age verification when it's really just a form of identity tracking. What's the problem with 16 year old installing Linux distros that we're trying to prevent?Never believe any new law that gets marketed at "protecting the children". The elites who make the laws don't give a fuck about the children.
>>108255810Use case?
My Apple account is over 18 years old so any device I log into should automatically recognize me as an adult.
>>108256789That's what a rational human would think, wouldn't they?Unfortunately the people writing the laws are being blackmailed by people with an unreasonable hatred against the common person.
>>108255810Commies are forcing digital ID to lockdown access to information. They do not like free flow of information
The social engineers like to do experiments. They tell the government jokers at one place to postulate something. They have no idea how to enforce it, but just hope it will somehow become reality. If it works out the social engineers introduce the postulate elsewhere, if not, they won't. CPC postulates "lock downs", it works out, its tried elsewhere. Government in Austria postulates everyone has to take the syringe. It doesn't work out, tests are stopped.
Between this and ID cards we are going to be mandated to have our identities tied to TPM chips in computers and game consoles.
>>108256672>The elites who make the laws don't give a fuck about the childrenDon't they though?
>>108256619back then also the west expected mainframes to be the norm
>>108256910>Fictional outcomes
>>108255810Wasn't the anecdote Newsom gave behind the supposed justification for this that he was taken aback by everyone being on they fones at his daughter's birthday party? How come his daughter and her social circle being normalfags has to affect everyone? Even with the youths, not everyone is a dopamine receptor-fried retard, believe it or not. Not ever Zoomer is on their phones 24/7; some can practice self-discipline.
>>108256672Digital ID is uses mainly for mass censorship. This is being pushed by WEF, by the UN (communist), by China, by Russia, by EU, UK and Australia/NZ and now Commiefornia.
>>108255810Newscum is a faggot but just exempt your software for use in California.
>slippery slope is a fall-
>>108257089Every single time.
>>108257089The problem is that we took authority from the parents and give it to the state. This also effectively took responsibility from the parents and gave it to the state.
>>108255836>after formatting my drivesI don't think so. A live cd is still an operating system and we will have no loopholes.
>>108257089The USA has two types of politicians. Ones who want mass surveillance and uninterrupted sex with children and other ones who want the exact same thing but gay.There is no such a thing as "republican" or "democrat", just "evil" and "colorful evil."
>>108255810you need id to use the computer but you don't need id to vote. california everyone
git apply remove-us-retardation.patch
>>108256112Europeans who keep begging for money and military support for Ukraine and throw a tantrum when they don't get it
>>108255810>>108255845>enter your age:>enter the age range you want to enable communication with:There. Ought to satisfy all parties involved.
I love how both the US and the UK are speed running some dystopian, Orwellian shit.I rather live in Germany and not allowed to do nazi solutes than in a country where you have no privacy and your so called "free-speech" is just something on a piece of paper, worthless.
>>108257592Are you being serious? The same shit is happening EVERYWHERE on earth at the same time. This is a coordinated effort.
>>108255810What's insane to me is that, given how wildly unpopular everyone in the current administration is, Gavin Newsom could be President Newsom in 2029 if he just stops doing retarded shit for a few years, but he's just like "nah fuck it".
>>108257673Where? All I see is american and bong governments and businesses going full schizo.
>>108257711https://fightchatcontrol.eu/https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/de/policies/eu-age-verificationhttps://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/merz-klarnamen-internet-100.htmlIt's been raining shit for years now.
>>108256066If they exclude Californian developers as well this could become the best operating system on the market.
>>108255810What could go wrong when you have to verify your age everytime you interact with any modern electronics device.
>>108256257canonical's developers and sales teams are there
>>108255810What a fucking retard, this shit will never fly for Linux.Also fuck the captcha, replying is based but not that based.
>>108257711dude even south America is doing it
>>108257592>retard so obsessed with America doesn't even know what's going on his own cunt
>>108257711For some inexplicable reason Trudeau was harshly against this, so right now the relevant bill is slowly trying to eat its way through the Canadian system the second time. We can only hope the dislike for all things American will scare the politicians away from it.
>>108257954EU bureaucrats are making shit up that will never pass. That literally it. You fags need to learn that the EU doesn't function like the US. Separate countries, separate laws and shit ton of common laws. Propositions like this never pass, in fact, the EU can't even agree which age verification tool can be used. Because many offered ones violate privacy laws or countries laws.
>>108255810I'm guessing this WORLDWIDE push to get verification ID on everything is because of Agenda 2030.You vill own nothing.These fucking traitors are all in cahoots.
>>108255810Sorry sweaty, but you can't make a syscall without showing us your id
>>108256464>>108256460They'll just make every mainstream service lock out anyone using a non compliant OS. You'll be stuck in your fringe open source le pirate world with the other schizos, quarantined from the rest of the world and its opportunities. Basically digital hobos shooting up in an abandoned railyard next to a burning barrel.
>>108255810Wouldn't Microsoft get in trouble for the like, 1% of users still using XP and earlier
>>108256341the point is to make impossible to abide by it, so they can selectively enforce it towards specific targets
>>108257592You do know that you can be arrested and fined for calling any of your politicians fat in Germany? (Specially if they are actually fat)
>>108255810This is probably the single most retarded law I've seen in years. I thought this was just a joke because something so stupid could never exist.
>>108258038Well we have to round up the terrorists who googled photosynthesis
Watch the Democrats pick Newsom during the primaries lmao. He gives off the sleaziest phony politician vibes of anyone I've ever seen.
>>108258540Its between him and Qamala (again)
>>108255810>at account setup
>>108258540It will happen and we will all pay for this
>>108258570christ lol democrats really are an "opposition party" there just to make the US look like a legit democracy. there's no other explanation.
>>108257592This is not only happening in UK or the US. There is a huge push in France and Spain too.
>>108255810But Linux is a kernel...
>>108255810Forced age verification coming to Linux at operating system level
>>108256400cat /var/run/fuck_california will return the users age
>>108255836When they say Linux they don't mean your Router or your VPS, they mean your Android device.
>>108255810just read the thing and it's a norhingburger. why y'all so dramatic over it?
>>108257711EUAnd individual EU member statesAustraliaNew ZealandCanadaBrazilRussiaChinaThis is all under the WEF/UN's 2030 plan of no privacy and mass censorship agenda. You're not seeing it because you're living in a bubble that protects you from real information
utterly un constitutional adn cringethat guy owes 250Billion$ to LA fires daamgewhen he paying?he also calims 100Billion surplsu by conting spnding he wants to do in future as incomeLOLnewscum tard factor 9 mr sulu
>>108255836Most of the people making laws have never installed an OS.
Its not a real childrens protection law. If that were the case, then they would simply mandate all ISPs have apps for their internet where they can make parents/isp owners give authorizations on individual devices/users. This protects freedom and protects children, if they real want to. And this can be the most efficient and painless path towards the problem they claim to want to solve. Instead they are demanding digital ID across computers, OS, app stores, social media, etc. This is all about mass censorship and digital privacy violation to protect trannies and mass migration policies from being criticized
>>108256094Could you say Wyoming is a very stable state? (socially and politically).Not a murican btw...
>>108258888New EU just designated anyone criticizing the gover of their transgender ideology, mass migration ideology, islam and war as terrorrists.https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/d8cee954-5df6-4566-a520-6d59cfef347e_en?filename=ProtectEU%20-%20Agenda%20to%20prevent%20and%20counter%20terrorism.pdf
>>108258890California budget is fucked, the state has 100 billion in COVID relief funding fraud and 8 billion in SBA loan fraud. LA itself has like 15 billion wasted in homeless housing and services that haven't improve homelessness at all.
>>108258979Homeless funds were meant to grow the homeless population and give the homeless "nonprofits" their jobs
>>108258979>LA itself has like 15 billion wasted in homeless housingThose are bullshit jobs for people, they put food on the table
>>108255845seems like they want to urgently do it this year, they probably leaked the pedo ring stuff on purpose to shill this bullshit, these masons are not even trying to hide their actions anymore. If we manage to sabotage this, we will fuck up their plans for a couple of years
>>108258102In the real world, companies just don't comply when it hurts the bottom line:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T9HzkOUenk
>>108258983>>108258985I am well aware of the purpose, I'm just pointing out the cost total of the scheme.
land of the free btw
>>108259138around commies, never relax
>>108258857are you desperate enough to wear rodenstock
I hope something more niche arises out of the ashes of the current internet. I just want those wild west early 2000's feels back.
>>108256094NY and CA moving into low-populated red states to turn them blue
>>108255810>>108256521>hey did not think this shit through in the slightestThe truly hilarious part is in the language of the law. It makes zero distinctions between types of operating systems, and assumes all operating systems must provide user-specific accounts, through which this is applied.Imagine all the shit out there that technically has "operating systems", but doesn't work like that. They're essentially demanding all dumb tech now impliment user accounts to impliment age verification.
>>108256521They dont care. Saving Microslop is the only priority for them. This is on behalf of Microslop and they are afraid of being replaced by SteamOS/Linux. I mean I thought Microslop was afraid but obviously they are terrified.
>>108257053By the US anon. It is being pushed by the US. Calif is just the beginning.
>>108256910There's a reason you're not safe in public. Pretending to be something other than a fellow human being is falling alart, and you'll have to just get along instead of being a bitch.
>>108259359Microsoft is not afraid of being replaced by Linux. If it was ever going to happen, it would have happened when Windows 10 hit EoL. People held their nose and stuck with Windows, just like they did for Windows 10 when it was new.
>>108259387At the time, 11 wasn't really the disaster it is now though. It was still shit, straight-up, but not that big a change off of ten. More importantly, you could update it cleanly and fusslessly.It's the destructive AI-powered updates that're absolutely killing them now. Nobody likes using software where they become terrified at update time, wondering what the fuck's going to happen now. That + steamOS are driving small, but still unprecidented numbers of people onto some variation of linux, and microslop doesn't want that to gain more traction.
>>108255850>casually mandates your OS be user friendly to the "average citizen" (see: immigrant)Enjoy your new user interface chuds
>>108259328>2032>LAPD is on the hunt for a fugitive in possession of a very valuable contraband>after a long high speed chase they finally apprehend the suspect>heknowswhathedid.jpg>a surprisingly short warrant hearing commences>they break the front door of his 250 sqft studio apartment>at last, it’s in front of the proper authorities, they can finally dispose of the waste properly>a ten year old microwave oven that has no concept of a “user”, nevermind checking its age
>>108255810>coming to LinuxIt probably won't, but even if SOME distros add it in some US-specific build, it would be trivial to either (1) acquire a build without it or (2) patch it yourself and bypass.Only tech illiterate dumbasses would feel forced to use it.
>>108259062are these masons in the room with us right now?
>>108259404I logged into steam one day to find that every single game in my library was marked as playable on this (linux) system, with absolutely zero effort on my part to figure out proton or whatever. Microshit’s niche at this point is enterprise vendor lock-in and nothing else. I challenge you to find one person that WANTS to use windows given that everything he needs to use is available on other platforms
>>108259062>masonssenooooor
>>108259387The Steam Machine anon. Don't you think the price of RAM going haywaire just after the Steam Machine was announced? The constant attacks to Steam and GabeN? All orchestrated.
its very odd that all these age verification and digital id laws are suddenly being pushed at the same time... wonder what caused it?
The only people crying about this have something to hide. Stop being a criminal and you e got nothing to worry about
>>108257028
>>108259446I don't want to use Windows, but some of my games don't work as well on Linux. My Steam library does, for the most part, but my older retail games often run into problems that don't happen on W10.
>>108259497the idea has been bouncing around for 10 years at this point anon.
>>108259502>trusting the government or 3rd party corporations with your datafucking retard, have fun getting your shit leaked by hackers
>>108259517You're too retarded and dumb for anything but windows. Stay on windows. It's perfect for you
>>108259497This >>108259519.They just think they can implement and enforce it now because of "AI".
>>108259520You're a basedboy, aren't you? Companies now a days have top of the line security. They're not getting hacked. This isn't 1996 anymore, Grandpa Retard. It's perfectly safe now.
>>108255810The elites are struggling to find children they can fuck, so if they've decided if they can track your OS and rule you out because you're an adult, then they won't waste time sending you an recruitment invitation to become an 'international model' or 'party on a remote island' with them. It all makes sense if you think about it. Remeber all those other laws they passed to keep the children safe and it turned out they were the kid fuckers after everything was said and done. Plus they refuse to prosecute Bondi and Patel and any other political figure balls deep in Epstein land.
>>108259379California and liberal states want to censor speech for those criticizing their policies, so they want to push digital ID. Other conservative states are pushing digital id for porn verification.
>>108259502the only ones with something to hide are the ones pushing this in the first place
>>108259558>liberalthese are not liberal policies. find a better name.
>>108256094>poors are forced to move to poor statesBased
social media and the internet in general is bricking kids minds. some are getting radicalised by low IQ sloptubers who farm outrage. if you are upset about this real ID bullshit you can blame the predatory silicon valley billionaires who profit from lies and allow kids to be victimised. stop blaming the fucking parents and look at who made the internet like this in the first place
>>108259497The communists tried to inject everyone with a mystery "vaccine" 5 years ago, not sure how you managed to miss that
>>108256257google is indian
>>108259569Leftist
>>108255810How are they going to implement such a thing to Nix users?
>>108259569Most people calling themselves 'liberals' nowadays are just statists.
>>108259446To be honest, I'd prefer to use windows over linux. I dislike linux, being perfectly honest.But it's conditional on windows being a fucking functional OS that isn't breaking shit every month - if not every two weeks -, isn't shoving AI down my throat in every application because all the indians have a rage-on for it, and isn't throwing ads at me. Pro and/or extensive fuckery solves the ads part, but nothing fixes the AI and update problems(which ultimately are linked together.)You want more fucking honesty? I actually kinda like 11 at its core. Not quite as much as 7, but better than 10. But in its current state, it's just a fucking trainwreck. Even worse than XP, which previously was the only windows version that ever gave me severe problems with a major update.
>>108258867That isn't what the law says. The law says anyone who distributes software of any kind must verify the age of the account owner they distribute the software to via some mechanism supported by the device receiving the software, and that all devices that can receive software must implement some mechanism to verify the age of the account holder(s) who have accounts on the device. It is very clear.
>>108259686those are not leftist policies either, they are control aka right wing
others seem to miss the point. if they get a sizable amount of le normies to comply it'll be more easier
>>108259811Wrong. Wrong Wrong. The Freedom and the Protection thereof is the province of the Right. Control and Authority are the province of the Left. Please read more political theory before forming an opinion.
>>108259836Political theory actually rejects this oversimplification. Both the Left and Right contain libertarian (freedom-oriented) and authoritarian (control-oriented) factions. For example, left-wing anarchism seeks to dismantle authority, while right-wing authoritarianism enforces strict state control. True political science recognizes a multi-dimensional spectrum.
based newscum.
>>108255810literaly unenforceable.
>>108259811Leftist policy is communist policy. Right wing policy is libertarian/freedom pilled. Except with those weird porn laws.
Never gonna happen kek
>>108259836That must be why the party of small government is trying to create Chinese level surveilence.You gotta come down and realize this is not a left v right issue. it's an elite vs everybody else issue.
>>108259996>>108259873
>>108255810How do they expect a plane to verify its age? Come on.
>>108258890Stroke status?
>>108255810Now that Debian is a sinking ship, where am I supposed to migrate to?
>>108255810>expecting normalcattle, who are absolutely terrified of ipdates and run the 2015 version of windwd 10, to updootlmfao
>>108259158New Hampshire republicans pushed this through in my fucking state, retard nigger. KYS, Republicucks are literally even worse than Democucks. Their level of hypocrisy is insane. US Republican Party should have died a long time ago.
>>108260110Gentoo.
>>108260110Debian, but from a European mirror?
>>108260123Show me the law
>>108260130EU is mandating digital ID by default across the entire Europe for entire internet access.
>>108259809oh no haha, i just found this Bootable arch linux USB on the floor, guess i dont have to verify anything haha silly me
>>108255810>yew go' a loicense fo that OS m8
>>108260172Yes. Yes I do.
>>108259100Skirting is part of the rollout. People skirted license plates when those were new. Everything that is constant now was once resisted and scoffed at until it slowly became the norm.
>>108259835They can't even get normies to keep using windows.
>>108256341you put it on Android and Apple, as well as Microsoft, Ubuntu, and mac
>>108260192how further in dry land until it holds no water
>>108256066This is exactly what happens when people argue against using copyleft. You give people power to take your work, modify it and put nonfree terms on it, including those that restrict freedom 0.
>>108256066And because it ships components under the GPL, this is a violation of that license, unless they stop distributing all GPL software from the base and ports system.
>>108260375Why do you think communist organizations like Canonical (Ubuntu) are rereleasing GNU utils with MIT license?
gentoo is baste. zero Californians are allowed to use it.
>>108260398And what's next, an Expat version of Linux, vibecoded in full Rust?
>>108258972They subtly just banned jews and muslims from europe though with that.
>>108259811>>108259836niggers, in NH it was republicucks who shat this bill out
>>108259811Nothing about government control is unique to the left or right wings of government. Governments always want control, it's why there's a big list of things they're not allowed to do called a constitution. Whigs, monarchists, liberals, conservatives, they all want more power. And democracies will just hand that shit over because it's for their safety or kids safety or something, people are so fucking stupid.
>>108257497Maybe we can add>Choose which countries you want to connect with
So what OS should i use, /g/?
>>108255810>Only measure up for voting last year was the metaphorical gun pointed at Texas to redistrict if they redistrict>Overwhelmingly supported by the populace>Meanwhile the CA legislature introduced and passed this billDon't you just love it when the people in charge don't represent you?Fucking pieces of shit.
>>108255810>at account setupthats why m$ pushed for online accounts>including linuxthey can tongue my /dev/null
>>108255810>buy microwave from the store>plug in microwave>"WARNING: You must enter your age before you can cook">21>"Please type in social security number">420-69-1337>"Input looks suspicious, Please look into camera to clarify age">Looks into camera>"VERIFYING">"Age confirmed. You are 3 years old.">Try to heat up a burrito>Microwave prevents me from doing so as I am not "old" enough to use that option>Only button I can use is the "KIDS MEAL" option>Press it>Trapdoor slides from the ceiling of the microwave>It dumps a bunch of sugar and sprinkles onto it>Try to take burrito out of microwave>"WARNING, YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO TAKE THINGS OUT OF THE MICROWAVE. PLEASE CONTACT A PARENT">The microwave door locks>Cannot open the fucking microwave>Struggle for a day trying to open the stupid thing>I eventually call over a friend to try and see if he can verify for me >He comes over the next day and manages to successfully age verify on the microwave as "83 years old" (he's 19)>Finally get my burrito, which is now wet after the ice melted off of it over the days>Puke upon biting into it as it started to grow mold while it was inside the microwave
>>108260991i'd push for IQ tests rather than age verification
>>108255810So there also needs to be an account setup? I dont sign up to use a fucking device?
>>108260709Depends on your needs
A lot of things can be solved by just removing california, the place is not real anyways
>>108259889How is it not? I've read the bill. The language says that if the Attorney General finds that one child's laptop hasn't been sending the child's age to literally every developer of every single graphical application package installed on it, every time the graphical application is launched, the AG can fine all those developers tens of thousands of dollars. They might not be able to if they're outside of the US, but they can certainly fine the OS developer, or any developer who works on the graphical application project who lived in California (the bill targets individual persons who do not make their software do this). People don't understand that this is a mandatory age telemetry law, for all graphical application packages, and developers of such packages are ONLY allowed to use Microsoft and Google's methods of retrieving a user's age, so it's up to them to decide if they want to keep the users age as a simple text file in a place that's read only for non administrators, or cram it in encrypted form inside the TPM among the credentials used for the Microsoft/Google account such that developers can't even read it if they don't have some dumb fucking certificate/key from Microsoft/Google. Colorodo is pushing through a copycat law so it'll be enforceable there too.
>>108258972Literally just a blank check to get rid of anybody they want.
>>108259616I don't care about children, or their parents. If you can't be bothered to take care of your crotchspawn then don't shit them out. Not my fucking problem.
>>108255810How is this retardation going to be enforced? What's actually stopping people in California just using a normal distro and not one riddled with spyware as he wants?
>>108262433>Not my fucking problem.Who cares, the government and public don't see you as a person protected by the constitution.
>>108255810so u will need verify ID to log in on your computer but NOT to vote in California?
>>108255845yep, that's what it is. they're building an automated pedo grooming pipeline to find the best young bussy in the country that you audition for when you upload your photo. if the pedo ai says you're prime material, an apache helicopter / limousine picks you up that evening to take you to the private island to suck dick
>>108260991Great overgeneralization dumbass
>>108262575Retard, the bill itself is a complete over-generalization meant to push more control over the people.
>>108255810Hardly to believe they want to protect children when they are hiding and protecting the aggressors in the Epstein files.
>>108262397>durr how is it unenforcible>wall of text that doesn't at all describe how it would make any sense to implementTech literacy requirements for politicians, now.
>>108257711The EU gets a new proposal to spy on every chat messenger pretty much every other month.
>>108260151Nope. Try harder mutt.
>>108257592>I rather live in Germany and not allowed to do nazi solutes than in a country where you have no privacy and your so called "free-speech" is just something on a piece of paper, worthless.Nigger, you have no idea about Germany
>>108255810>>108258038>>108258951>>108262397They invented our internet. ISPs have been run and stacked with spies since the beginning. They have backdoors in pretty much all computer hardware from the last 20-30 years (see Minix OS). It's as if everyone collectively forgot that Edward Snowden revealed that they are collecting massive amounts of data in real time NOW, not in the future, but NOW. Xkeyscore or whatever it was has been monitoring no-no topics to flag for years.This doesn't even delve into how the military has had spy satellites and black hawk jets for 40, 50, fucking 60 years that (allegedly if you believe them) can zoom in on individuals from fucking space. On top of that, "we" are all carrying literal microphones and cameras 24/7, unfathomably compromised by every world government, with geolocation anywhere there's cell service (I don't have a phone but 99% do). And all this data has been swapped back and forth between every 5 Eyes country, and obviously not just them. Every nation on the planet is in on this, working together and colluding on fucking over their citizens keeping them divided and distracted with fake wars, fake diseases, fake food, fake money, and fake entertainment.So please tell me what the fuck IDs have to do with any of this? Gavin Newsom is obviously MILINT or CIA working a long project as an actor/puppet, same as all the other politicians. Why should I get so flustered by the same tactics used during the voter ID debates? Voter ID requirements are a meaningless farce to divide people because elections are inherently rigged. Not only do they outright steal and cheat votes, but EVERY candidate from every party, even 3rds, are also puppets. The CIA wins no matter what so voting integrity is meaningless when democracy is an illusion. Just like digital privacy is an illusion.
>>108256214this is so fucking authentic
>>108256214SOVL
According to Orange Reddit, this isn't a big deal because there's no verification so you can just lie.
>>108264163Yeah, and that's up next when Microsoft and Google get slapped with another law requiring them to collect your ID for this purpose.
So linux just became obsolete if you wanted privacy.
>>108264591How is the California government going to force distros to implement this?
>>108264624By fining individual developers who live in California and make any software for a distro that doesn't have this feature. Or, who host downloadable executables on github and refuse to add this to their software. Because Microsoft will be happy to help them comply by offering code samples that when added to a program send a launch record with the user's age to github. It's really quite nebulous just what programs and applications will need to do this and which ones won't, so the only way to be safe is to add it to everything.
>>108264654And for those who don't live in California? Or the US? What's going to stop me from downloading a distro of Ubuntu that doesn't have this from an EU mirror and installing it on my desktop, given I live in Los Angeles?
>>108264666The fact that Canonical isn't going to make an EU edition of Ubuntu that doesn't do this. To do so would be "negligence" and leave every one of their contributors at risk of fines they can't afford.
>>108264679They can just put a disclaimer on their website: "Not for use in California". They're based in London.
>>108264691They can. But if some kid downloads it, and installs software, and the AG's office finds out about it, then contributors living in California can be fined tens of thousands of dollars, over and over again per child that installs it. I'm not making any of this up, this is what's in the law.
>>108263992>you're already totally controlled goy, so stop resisting >mandatory ID verification doesn't matter, it adds nothing so stop resisting it>why are you resisting stuff that doesn't matter but mysteriously gets pushed everywhere at once at the same time?>stop resisting! stupid goy!
>>108258570>pretend-Black crypto-Jeet>literal retard who can't read>homosexual>pretend-Spic crypto-Kike>astronaut and navy vet (only somewhat respectable person on the list)>Kike>turbo Kike
>It was also possible to bypass the copyright monitors by installing a modified system kernel. Dan would eventually find out about the free kernels, even entire free operating systems, that had existed around the turn of the century. But not only were they illegal, like debuggers—you could not install one if you had one, without knowing your computer's root password. And neither the FBI nor Microsoft Support would tell you that.>Dan concluded that he couldn't simply lend Lissa his computer. But he couldn't refuse to help her, because he loved her. Every chance to speak with her filled him with delight. And that she chose him to ask for help, that could mean she loved him too.>Dan resolved the dilemma by doing something even more unthinkable—he lent her the computer, and told her his password. This way, if Lissa read his books, Central Licensing would think he was reading them. It was still a crime, but the SPA would not automatically find out about it. They would only find out if Lissa reported him.>Of course, if the school ever found out that he had given Lissa his own password, it would be curtains for both of them as students, regardless of what she had used it for. School policy was that any interference with their means of monitoring students' computer use was grounds for disciplinary action. It didn't matter whether you did anything harmful—the offense was making it hard for the administrators to check on you. They assumed this meant you were doing something else forbidden, and they did not need to know what it was.https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html
Enough is enough
>>108257592>I rather live in Germany and not allowed to do nazi solutesI wouldn't mind if it were just Nazi salutes, but you can't even talk about politics at an adult level in Germany without risking years in prison. You just do not realize this because you are mentally retarded.
>>108264767Explain what the intelligence agencies gain from mandatory ID that isn't covered by>hardware backdoors, spectre meltdown minix shit>software 0days slipped in by trannies/cia>most vpns out by israel or compromised>isps vacuuming whatever it can>fingerprinting everywhere including 4chan with cloudflare, spur/mclc shit>nsa vaccuuming all the data into black hole data centers for the last 30 years>said data being combed by algorithms to pick up keywords making threat determinations>cctv through ring, alexa, city wide traffic cams, police scanning, in store surveillance>cellphone geolocation, metadata, voice wiretapping, mics and cameras remote activated>satellites from space and spy planes scanning fine details anywhere on earth>lidar detecting underground passages in case you try to hide>new wifi standard makes 3d map of interiors>hdd clicks can send data from airgapped computers to sensitive microphones nearbyI'm not defending ID verification. In fact it shouldn't exist. Nobody needed IDs in the 19th century and everything was better then. But this complete joke of a law in California is going to be struck down, unenforced, and everyone will dance and cheer that they "won" as if they're still not be spied on in a billion ways. So why should I get bent out of shape over ID laws that are flavor of the month outrage bait?Some anons were saying they only push IDs now because AI can parse all the data, as if "current" AI isn't a disclosure of obsolete military tech 20 years out of date, the same way Google Earth was basic bitch spy mapping from decades prior graciously gifted to the "private sector". So why IDs now other than to give people the illusion of victory when it's inevitably struck down?
>>108265294>But this complete joke of a law in California is going to be struck down, unenforced, and everyone will dance and cheer that they "won" as if they're still not be spied on in a billion ways. So why should I get bent out of shape over ID laws that are flavor of the month outrage bait?it passed their house unanimously across party lines, didn't it?It should stand as your warning, that even in the arguably most tech literate or tech business epicenter of a state, the legislature is either completely illiterate, or completely captured. act accordingly.
>at account setupSo Haiku is safe! All hail Haiku! All hail the successor of BeOS!
>>108256214make it so that the wheel won't affect the number, you can't type the number either, and long pressing one of these arrows only changes the number by one after you let go
>>108256341You enforce it by making making running unsigned code illegal.
>>108255810Gavin Newsom is a retard? Imagine my shock.>>108256066>excluding CaliforniansHOLY BASED
>>108266187>by making making running unsigned code illegal.And how do you enforce that?
>>108258970Yeah. I live in Wyoming and I really like it. More cows than people in this state. There are a lot of cities with a higher population than this whole state. It's pretty nice. Good laws too, no state income tax, and no taxes in a lot of stuff. Don't need permits to own or carry guns. Pretty cool overall, especially if you like doing outdoors stuff.
>>108255810This is the way I envision Linux going if it passes>distro maintainers put the verification and telemetry program in as legally required>l33t hackers build their own program compatible for all linux distros that rips that verification program right out of your fucking computer Jia Tan-style and obliterates it into a million pieces before it can even run>torrent it all over the internet until it is everywhere>congratulations, they now have to manually inspect and decrypt millions of PCs by hand to make sure you have really installed their spyware inside I see this really as just the next Denuvo. Some people will bow down and accept the spyware, but most normal users will just use a workaround that "purifies" their desktop from interference and government malware.
>>108257592>I love how both the US and the UK are speed running some dystopian, Orwellian shit.Just a bunch of karens given free rein on restricting Internet. Digital ID and face scan push will stop when information of thousands of children gets leaked by a hacker. Lawmakers and people in general have forgotten that storing real life information in any online storage is dangerous and they're going to have to learn it the hard way.
>>108266291obviously it's going to be yanked out in the beginning. They'll tighten the screws over the years. The EU is already introducing mandatory SecureBoot for all devices, and SecureBoot will be used to enforce using only OS's with the age verification shit.
>>108255938>AmericancerDidn't this all start with Europe, just a scant few months ago?
>>108259502Actual human beings don't say things like this. Why do you think it's smart to post online?
>>108266483UK. The idea has been floating around the UK for years though, not months.
>>108262575>defending this shit unironicallyAll of you fuckers will burn alive.
>>108255845>>108255810The great noticing is what they desperately want to prevent again. Most US politicians are either in the epstein files or are working hand-in-hand with someone in the epstein files. Red, blue, it doesn't matter. Everyone was in on it in some way and everyone continues to be complicit in crimes with the people who committed some of the most heinous shit imaginable.They can't answer for that so they're going to start mandating, step by step, that you have to publicly ID yourself online because if you don't: You'll keep posting and reposting pictures and evidence of these retards violating the law. This is to make you shut up through a culture of fear and the potential of being disappeared because of the vast amount of fingerprinting information the average electronic device is now required to collect on you, nothing more.
>>108266233By fining anyone who contributes code to an operating system that runs unsigned code.
>>108265294>Explain what the intelligence agencies gain from mandatory ID that isn't covered byIt isn't that they know, they could easily find out who you are from any post or any site you visit online. It just takes a little bit of sleuth work.They want to make sure that YOU know that they know. They want to be sure that they rub in your face "Hey, you uploaded your face to use this device, we know exactly what you use this device to do and what you use it to post online." This isn't going to penetrate most people. Most people have no fucking clue what this means for them, there are still people who are doing drug deals on Facebook using their real names and faces. So what does this entail? It's going to entail massive law enforcement ramp-ups to start throwing wrongthinkers in the pokey UK style on every retard who picked up a device that immediately asked for their face or driver's license, and did a heckin' antisemitism online with it. Those normalfags who didn't get the message that the devices were compromised will be strung out to dry using one of the hundred or so antisemitism laws in the United States. In their case will be the age-ID verified picture of their face and the post that they made. In which case a long-nosed kike lawyer will throw every single book they have at you and the men in black dresses will approve every single one because the system doesn't work if it's not absolute in its enforcement.This has nothing to do with finding you, it's entirely because they know finding you is useless if you do not have a culture of fear embedded in you to make you self-censor what you do online. this is just scare and terror tactics taken to the next level: You gave your PC or your phone or your terminal or something that you own your identifying information, now it's up to you to trust that it's not going to immediately snitch you out the microsecond you cross the powers that be. Have fun ever feeling free or voicing your opinion online ever again.
It is all about censorship hidden behind id requirements.Age verification is code for requiring an id linked to you online. You must present id to verify your age.>>108265294Give me a break.The government is not some supertech entity years ahead of the private sector. The private sector develops technology adopted by the government. There is classified projects you don't know about but they rely on the current technology the private sector has created.The purpose of this is to outlaw private os. To mandate everything be on approved tracked os they make rules for and can sue to implement laws. And to mandate id for everyone using a computer, phone, etc to track them easier.While making it a crime to bypass any of that if tech savy enough to do so and go after those enabling it like private os makers.Currently you can bypass most tracking, use others wifi, and by almost entirely anonymous online.They want not always being linked to id a crime.They started caring about this when noticing the jew and questioning Israel became big. They never did it for the children in the previous 20 years.People have been doing all the stuff phone users do with pcs since the 90s. And phone posting since blackberries and similar in the mid 2000s. What happened is they lost control of the narrative a few years ago and now everyone must be tracked or be commiting a crime by not being tracked.
>>108266620They are getting rid of rooting phones and sideloading apps as much as possible similar reasons.Google started tracking all phones by serial number reported to os just this year too.Pcs have similar hardware id tracking now. Tracking gpu, cpu etc so even a wiped system is still linked to a use.All normies will be tracked and anyone technical enough to avoid it will be punishable as a criminal hacker. And helping others avoid it will be organized crime/conspiracy crime.
>>108265294>>108266620Also this is really just the start of it. The toe in the water as it were. They do it with a state that is used to the boot like California, and suddenly the other 49 states will have almost identical legislation the very next year. States are cagey to be the first ones to implement what is obviously anticonstitutional laws because they don't want to be the ones to get it taken to the supreme court and be known as the retards who ruined it for everyone.
>>108266581And how do you do that if the contributor lives outside of the state/country?
>>108255810So they put a text box that doesn't bother to verify anything entered into it. Why would a user lie about their age afterall.That or just put into the EULA that states this shit gets enacted in are not allowed to use the product. Might be for the best since it allows a legal out for the project.
>>108266670Texas and porn ban right wing states have already added porn and antisemetic legislation laws in the last few years.They will quickly link up with lefist authoritarian states like CA and New York to adopt and legislate getting around being tracked or using custom OS.Authoritarians are on both political spectrums and like absolute power.
>>108266511Ah. Thought it was being pushed in the eu. Thanks.
>>108257870Im slightly worried now, i use ubuntu btw
>>108266688Get more states and countries to pass similar laws or negotiate extradition.
>>108257443Underrated post.
>>108266715The eu does not develop this tech and Europe has wanted it longer than the usa to enforce its restrictions on speech.The usa officialy has free speech which they are trying to bypass 'for the children' like most authoritarian stuff. The EU doesn't.As soon as this is built into the OS and devices of everyone europeans will already be subject to it and the eu will adopt it as a requirement faster than the usa.
>>108266670And what about this is unconstitutional? It's not the government mandating that Microsoft and Google store the age along with the rest of everything on your government ID on your device's TPM, instead of just putting your age in a text file that only administrator accounts can write to.
>>108266688>out of the stateAll states will have this>CountryEvery country will soon have its own version of hate speech laws which supersede any and all protections they may currently have for the right to speech. It's already been ruled that all of these antisemitism laws are perfectly legal. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4091/textAnd the same has recently been applied to anti-zionism. If you think Greater Israel is a state that does not have a right to exist at the expense of all peoples currently living there, you are committing a crime and the Judiciary already ruled that this crime is not protected by the 1A. https://israel365news.com/411480/anti-zionism-is-anti-semitism-judge-rules-targeting-the-israeli-flag-equals-racism-against-jews/And it doesn't matter which state this is happening in. Everyone will soon have their own hate speech laws targeting the things that are most important to their party. The left wants to ban disparaging minorities and trannies, the right wants to ban disparaging Israel. Both of them agree that the 1st amendment is toilet paper that interferes with their goals of arresting and prosecuting their political opponents. Neither of them are going to fight each other. They all want this. Go find a moderate or even hardcore member of either party, left or right, anywhere. Ask them their opinion on hate speech laws. no matter who, they're all going to march lockstep in party lines and say that it's an abomination that deserves no protection. Nobody cares about free speech anymore and this was normalized by people mocking it just a few years ago.
>>108266791>And what about this is unconstitutional? The government forcing you to present papers in your own home by legislation is an obvious violation of the fourth amendment. If it's a private company doing it, sure, you can choose to simply not use their product. Fine. The government has zero right to force you to identify yourself in your own home. Your home is defined, multiple times, as the most private place a person can have. It's not even legal to do in public, much less private.https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/show-papers-scotus-lawful-presence-080408295.html>? It's not the government mandating that Microsoft and Google store the age along with the rest of everything on your government ID on your device's TPMThat's the thing, the government has no right to mandate Microsoft or Google identify ANYTHING about you online. If they do it, it's to be on their own terms. Them telling these companies to do it for them is identical to them simply hiring agents to work on their behalf. This is the fundamental reason for the fourth amendment: The british crown at one time was simply stopping people in public and demanding their ID and proof they were not a revolutionary. They would even come into your home and do it. You do not have to prove anything to the US Government unless they have a reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime. Period.
>>108266820And what happens if none of your poppycock actually happens?
>>108266791>And what about this is unconstitutional?>And what about this is unconstitutional? It's not the government mandating that Microsoft and Google store the age along with the rest of everything on your government ID on your device's TPM, instead of just putting your age in a text file that only administrator accounts can write to.oh ok so you should have to present your driver's license to police if they come to your door and knock, right?it's literally the same fucking thing.
>>108266857The US Constitution only applies when the people enforcing it say it does, retard.
>>108266860>And what happens if none of your poppycock actually happens?It's literally happening right now you disingenuous shitposter.https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB715Do you want to argue that any of these bills are not bills from California or that they are not real laws, next?
>108266870Oh ok you're intentionally being retarded. Ha ha, you got a reply, now fuck off retard.
How's that going to work for non-"coonsumer" "os"? Ibnlt: networking gear, shared resources/hpc, work computers, kiosk mode, iiot...
>>108258012Its already passed. They're now in the phase of enforcement.
>>108266907They already thought of that. "Apps" (whatever the hell that is) run by business accounts are exempt from having to collect user age data.
>>108266619The arrests will be a bluff like in the UK. No one is actually getting in trouble. Why? Because it's too risky. If cops actually tried to arrest the wrong people, even in the UK, they'd get killed. The examples they use will be actors or straight AI fabrications. Otherwise I guess I agree with you in that their goal is a chilling effect on free speech.>>108266620Spy satellites have been around for decades, as have stealth jets, not to mention the ubiquity of drones. Do they not exist? Are they a bluff? How do you know? I actually am interested and want to know why you think Intel backdoors like Intel ME and Minix are fake. What about Ring and Flock? Are CCTVs fake and just for show? I'm not being combative. If you have a reason to think it's a bluff please share.>Currently you can bypass most tracking, use others wifi, and by almost entirely anonymous onlineHasn't steganography and fingerprinting nearly killed this? And aren't 99.999% of users opening their assholes to Cloudflare, including you and me right now, questioning the Jews? Why do they need IDs when we're all screaming at the top of our lungs about the JQ?>to track them easierHow much easier does it get when 99% of people are phone users exclusively using gaped, compromised Android and Apple? And the rest use Windows and Mac, with a tiny amount of Linux who for the most part congregate on stable distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Arch, etc all of which are completely fucked in the ass by Intel ME or AMD TrustZone?>The government is not some supertech entity years ahead of the private sectorHow do you explain the admittedly tiny handful of examples like Julian Assange's interview with clear AI artifacts (usually fucked up collars or eyes as they blink)? They had to be at least 5-10 years ahead of when it leaked to the public. Not to mention how 3D CG were at least 15 years ahead of Hollywood, rendered on government supercomputers.
You VIL be cattle goyim
Can you make Linux for the noons? (Not Arch/Ubuntu/Fedora/Bazzite)
>>108266870>The US Constitution only applies when the people enforcing it say it doesIf that's the case, why is the military and CIA bothering to follow laws in the first place? Why are they making this so public and risking a huge backlash where a couple angry people mow down some cops and feds arresting them for installing Gentoo? Hasn't the Patriot existed for 20 odd years? Don't the have the right to simply detain anyone without reason and torture the shit out of them? Why aren't we being bagged and sent to a blacksite in Bosnia right now, anon? Why aren't the CIA committing extrajudicial hits on the antisemites? Why weren't the conspiracists (a rather large amount of the population) who figured 9/11 was an inside job by our own government not sent to the gulag? No one would have to know since sadly, a lot of us are lonely and single. Even if that's not the case why not kidnap their close family, book a fake vacation flight with an empty plane that "crashed" on paper and the family was tragically lost?If (((they))) don't give a shit about our Constitution or laws and are moving into the elimination phase, why now when they had decades to slowly, quietly, and insidiously kill all competition? Wouldn't it make more sense back in the 90s when everyone was happy and fattening up and the Cold War to have snipped away at militant opposition until you're only left with happy compliant cattle?
>download source code>patch out the age verification
>>108255850He's saying people like you who get power are fucking idiots for not understanding technology. If the operating system is open source and free, who the fuck is going to handle the verification of your ID, the file system you have complete control over? It's fucking retarded
