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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware -- industry is screwed until RAM/SSD/HDD catches up ;_;

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, only lists a few AM5 boards but actively updated: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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>AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT

Got tired of waitfagging for non-compromise display and ordered Odyssey OLED G6 (G61SD)
did i fucked up?

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>NVIDIA Geforce RTX 5070 Ti

>>108280786
its fine

didnt notice the new bread
pls respond, did i fuck up the fan thingies that fix it to the motherbaord?
>>108280805

>>108280815
prob not but i bet someone still makes a cooler that is compatible with your mobo for cheap.

>>108280707
>Monitor Hunter doc
>Asus XG27ACS
>'Best in Class 27” model'
What makes this "best in class"? The linked reviews don't seem all that positive.

OLED seems like a hassle so I'm wanting to go with IPS, just need 1440p and at least 144hz, but am willing to pay more for better quality.

>>108279770
Prolly cuz monitor ads haven't changed in more than two decades.
It's uncanny how they haven't changed much if at all. Every monitor/tv ad is just
>put vaseline/lower gamma in the rival monitor
>your monitor you want to sell is just stock w/ normal settings

There, that is the entire monitor ad's research. They don't need to put shit like tool makers: RPM, quieter, titanium/unobtanium FORGED tools. Real leather seats, cup holders and sockets for workfags like car makers.
>More vaseline, less power in rival tv. Done
No difference with TV Seller's ads from the 80s just:
>TRUE™ REAL ̶B̶L̶A̶C̶K̶S̶ NIGGERS FROM THE HOOD:Our monitors
>FAKE BUSTAS WHO LISTEN TO WHITE GIRL'S MUSIC:Rival's monitors
Almost every monitor has 1ms response times/different viewing modes/triple gaming modes/whatever with such fucking minuscule differences that only a Mantis Shrimp would notice.

The only thing that matters is what kind of panel you want, the size and resolution. Anything else is how much you are willing to pay The Cuck Markup over other brands. Really, I wish at least these cocksuckers bleeding people dry would at least offer cheap replacement parts like tool makers do for power tools OR state the kind of components inside to see where they are cheapening out.

>>108280853
If you want to play the contrarian bullshit on one of the most commonly reviewed & recommended 1440p gaming monitor, do that on your own time.
XG27ACS or the XG27ACG are good purchases when you get it on sale.
I don't own any ASUS monitor or ROG components btw.

normally i dont post those random videos but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2P9-1xpr38
impressive 2bh, 1030 running re9
if only jewreal engine was nuked from the earth

>9600xt 16gb for $420
>5060ti 16gb for $530
I plan to play on my 4k tv or stream AAA games to my steam deck. Is DLSS 4.5 really that good compared to FSR 4? How about performance on linux?

>>108280899
why not just play native on the deck

>>108280899
you def want a 5070 over both of those

>>108280899
>Is DLSS 4.5 really that good compared to FSR 4
Yes, DLSS 4.5 performance mode makes any 50 series card 4k capable.

>>108280899
If you want to run on Linux, just get AMD. Save yourself the headache.
I turn off the AI garbage, so I can't speak on either.

>>108280899
>>5060ti 16gb for $530
just get a 9070 with a bios flash at this point
>>108280915
>DLSS 4.5 performance mode makes any 50 series card 4k capable.

>>108280906
Because I want to play some new AAA games. The shilling on /v/ is making me want to play e33

>>108280924
the game is slop

>>108280933
brown

>>108280909
It's only 12gb though, isn't that a problem in the future?

>>108280941
it was made by brown people that is true

>>108280946
the higher perf in games is more relevant for your gaming experience
vram can always be tuned down in the settings

>>108280946
ye
more rtx = more vram
more upscailing = more vram

Is there a way i can stop games from raping my CPU when compiling shaders because it makes my CPU go to 100% usage and my temps go from like 50 to 70C+ and my CPU fan sounds like a jet engine

>>108280961
70c is fine. How often do you compile?

>>108280961
buy an air cooler so you hear the ramp up less
use noise cancelling headphones
limit the cpus boosting behavior/volts

>>108280946
it is but hes retarded and fucked up buying one so he also needs to fuck up over anons too
>>108280961
clean up and repaste
or just make a better curve, jet engine at 70c? youre doing it wrong

>>108280916
Oh so I guess nvidia is still unoptimized on linux then

>>108280961
just change the fan curve retard

>>108280946
No not unless you're maxing out settings which will kill your performance anyway. I haven't come across any game personally which requires even 10GB vram even at 4K when I target 60 fps which means either using DLSS or turning settings down which in turn lowers vram anyway. Just because a card has a lot of vram doesn't mean it can use it aside from caching, but all GPUs do that and it doesnt affect performance or visuals. For example a 5060 ti 16gb will be running sub 30 fps by the time you max out settings and enable shit like path tracing which will use up a lot of vram at 4K. But who's going to do that? Nobody. 12GB is fine for the foreseeable future. Consoles only have that much available for games and games are built around console specs.

>>108280692
>>Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
>-Used: 2080, 2080ti
>*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
>Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
>-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
>4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
>Native/High-end: 5090

State the resolution and expected fps for each of these tiers and cards

>>108280805
>>108280815
wow
none broke off
they are still in one piece congratulations

>>108280992
watch a youtube video for the games you wanna play nigger

>>108280992
>>>-Used: 2080, 2080ti
what year were these cards released and for what games

>>108280979
That and I've still times where I updated my kernel and/or drivers in the last year and booted up to no GUI. Not the end of the world, but doesn't instill confidence.

RTINGS is paywalling all of their hardware reviews to subscribers-only.
https://www.rtings.com/company/revamping-our-membership-program

>>108281019
reminds me of that time I was regularly watching joe rogan, and then spotify gave him 100mil to make the stock price go up by a few billions and that ended that hobby

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>>108281019
putting the entire site behind a paywall is crazy

>>108281059
I can't fathom companies doing the subscription model starting now, people are tired of it for years already. Everyone I know are cutting more and more of them of. I've been off them for years.

>>108281008
that op is from the same retard that believes dlss can do no wrong
just check the am5 part, it used to be assrock only but after 1 asus report he changed it to that

>>108281059
>>108281019
pffff, what do they offer compared to the hundreds of youtubefags who already put all their tests/benchmarks online for free?

>>108281029
People don't buy new TVs or monitors as they regularly listen to a podcast series, a RTINGS sub is worthless.
A pay-per-content/comparison would've been more sensible, alongside a subscription option if they want to push that crap.
The best purchasing advice is to wait for the first major discounts when you're buying a new TV or monitor, because you'll know the critical hardware flaws & after service issues by that time.

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how did people do cable management on the IDE days? These cables are fucking huge
also why does it have to be a daisy chain? wouldnt that reduce performance if two devices on the same daisy chain are working at the same time? since they're using the same data cable
>>108280848
>>108280997
thank you
i managed to unstuck the stuck ones
these plastic things are always scary, i wish they just used fucking screws instead of something so fragile!

>>108281078
nothing, they are on youtube too they have a bunch of channels

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>Thermalright Peerless Assassin 90 SE
you don't need anything more

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>>108280731
>actual RX 6070 XT

>>108281059
Just buy an LG C5/G5. There I condensed the entire site.

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https://www.rtings.com/company/revamping-our-membership-program
RIP RTINGs.

You can still access their recommendations and each reviews still has writeups of comparable models shown but all of the objective data/test results are now paywalled. Sad to me as their MPRT and text clarity zoom closeups of monitor subpixel structure/coating were quite useful. I think they spread themselves too thin away from TVs/Monitors where their methodology approach made and user base was attentive. They didn't need to apply it to mattresses, toasters, and shoes. This is massively bloating their costs and now they have to scramble to recoup the difference.

ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG ($750)
Ryzen 7 9850X3D ($400)
Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR5 CL36 ($100)
WD_BLACK SN8100 4TB ($450)
MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX ($180)
be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W ($90)
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 280 ($85)
Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid ($120)

Total - $2,175

I've been collecting the parts for a few months.
Would this have been a good deal price wise for this build?
I tried to never pay over what the MSRP of a part was.

>>108281089
The Phantom Spirit 120 SE is considerably better though.

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>>108281120
just look at it

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>>108281116
Arctic has an official US eBay account that sells B-Stock (refurbished) AIOs at a steep discount.
These AIOs are mostly returned because of case fitment issues and have the same 6 year warranty.
A lot of people end up with brand new AIOs.
https://www.ebay.com/str/arcticofficialstoreusa/Refurbished-Offers/_i.html

Not a big change to your total system cost though.

>>108280992
RTX 2080 = 35
RTX 2080 Ti = 42
RTX 3080 = 55
RTX 3080 T = i65
RTX 4070 = 60
Arc B580 = 58
RX 9060 XT = 62
RX 9070 = 70
RX 9070 XT = 72
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB = 68
RTX 5070 = 72
RTX 5070 Ti = 85
RTX 5090 = 120

I asked a computer to do it.

>>108281141
Funny enough, I'm actually planning to return that AIO. It's so obnoxiously loud. I got at be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 280mm. For the same price.

I know that the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro has a thicker radiator and in theory can cool better, but the be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 has faster fans, and those faster fans run much, much quieter. So the cooling actually evens out to be the same, if not better for the be quiet! PURE LOOP 3.

>it's over nvidiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOu6XE-ElQ

>>108281141
>>108281164
Just go open loop.

>>108281164
You basically have to keep the Arctic P14 Pro fans running at under 1000 RPM if you care about fan noise.
Mine is running between 800~900 RPM most of the time.

>>108281174
Literally no one owns AMD go away.

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>>108281186
most people also use w*ndows and are npcs. gtfo normalfag.

>>108281186
at some point in the 2030's the next console generation will have amd fsr 4 gpus in them
and then amd will be relevant again

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>>108280731

>>108281177
What's that mean? Pour water directly into your PC?

>>108281185
>Mine is running between 800~900 RPM most of the time.
What's your CPU?
I have a AMD 9850X3D, and I under volted / over clocked it, and while idle it's at about 42C. Under 90% load it's at 80C, but the fans are just so loud at 100%.

>>108281174
Don't worry I can just use optiscalar to get all the AMD tech on my nvidia card :^)

>>108281225
That will give your PC aids.

>>108281216
You keep the pump speed constant at around 2000~2200 RPM (the lower the quieter), and my CPU only hits above 80°C under stress test loads.
That 9850X3D can easily handle 80°C loads; its stock thermal throttle starts at 95°C.

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LF3 (Pro) is a pretty mediocre AIO for the 9800X3D, temps on a 9850X3D will be worse.

>>108281089
only for cases that can only fit 90mm and for CPU's with equal or less than 6 cores.
I'm surprised it's so cheap considering it has a solid contact, but the reviews on it are terrible for good reason.
I have the Thermalright Assassin X 90 SE V2 which is a bit cheaper and it works well with my 12100f, I could simulate water physics on it over night and it would never go above 50% fan speed while it runs at 70C (but the 12100f is a power efficiency champ, only beaten by the 8500g).
But I think the fans are too quiet, I cannot tell if the simulation is running and I have 16gb of ram and as more water gets added, more ram is utilized... So I generally need to increase the fans up to 60 or 70% so I could hear it from my bed.

Is there a lighter version of the mx master mouse or a gaming mouse with that same shape but very light?

https://youtu.be/egES4r_ahQk
This pulsar review was not favorable

I should have bought a 1200W PSU. I think I'm gonna do that this week.

>>108281498
okay well im not favorable on the review for spamming flashing images
fuck off, christ

>>108281019
Holy kek you actually can't see shit anymore on tvs and shit
Guess it's over
Kek

>>108281108
Qdoled has been their go to recommendation for gaming tvs though

>>108281520
You should have never listened to the idiots here. They think saving $50 on a power supply is a smart move over some future proofing.

is this a good time to ram max, looking to get into the ai revolution

best computer for an of millionaire??

>>108281553
it's the absolute worst time for that until tomorrow

>>108281555
iphone pro max 2TB

>>108281555

puget tier stock e-atx atx itx

I assume rtings is eventually shutting down operations because who subs to a review site. can you imagine doing that yourself? You want to buy a TV once in 5-10 years and a site might have a relevant review for it if you pay 15 money for the access. It doesnt seem plausible.

The review sites function is to provide a baseline truth on the internet. You have everyone refer to it, and then make decisions based on it becaue everyone agrees this is true. A paywall means it loses that function, something else becomes the truth since a freely available source is going to be referred 100x more often.

Internet may not function in AI era but paywalls that have this hump to engage wont function either. Maybe this is going to lead to some generic sub servce where your google acc has credits that are drained per article of whatever.

>It was revealed in a recent leak that the next-gen AMD Zen 6 Ryzen CPUs would be delayed until 2027, and it has now emerged, that the upcoming Intel "Nova Lake-S" Core Ultra Series 4 CPUs may be joining AMD for an early 2027 launch, when previous reports placed the launch in late 2026. The news comes by way of ubiquitous leakers, HXL on X and Golden Pig Upgrade on Weibo, who say that a CES 2027 launch seems likely for both new CPU generations.

It sucks total balls that nvidia and AMD will blueball and say wait until 2028 for GPUs

CES 2027 could have been the craziest most hype show ever

>>108281575
Their argument is dumb af "AI is inaccurate us and reddit is full of lying corpo shills! We believe in the truth to help consumers! That's why we are removing all our vetted data now pay us you faggots"

>>108280979
They're better than they were in the past but you still lose performance compared to being on Windows or using AMD.

>>108281577
>Get a comfy year where you can focus on shit like cooling, cases, aesthetics and stuff like that.
Kinda nice, desu.
Not like a fan is going to be outdated by 2030.

>>108281575
I really don't understand why they couldn't leverage their YT channel more for reviews as an ad-revenue source *(works for FOMO, HDTVTest, and HUBTim) and would make AI-scraping a bit more difficult. The morons that would believe AI summaries/reviews were never going to be part of their audience. I continue to believe they wanted to become ConsumerReports 2.0 and have overexpanded the scope of their reviews to the point that now they are financially in trouble. Should have just stuck to TVs/Monitors

Why/how does AMD get so much shilling for its GPUs despite it clearly being a minority among gamers

>>108281769
It's not shilling, it's that Linux support for nvidia is really bad, and you have to use Linux if you want real total control over your pc.

>>108281769
amdrone delusion is strong they think 1-2% of the market dictates the entire market

nevermind AMD shipping literally 10 times less cards than nvidia and only releasing 2 GPUs for this entire generation

>>108281798
izzat status?

according to who

https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2026-2-24-amd-and-meta-announce-expanded-strategic-partnersh.html

amd gpu are far from dead, it's just that vram has become too expensive to realistically offer high vram cards to consumers, thanks to the nature of asian culture tending toward (in the West) illegal monopolies.

The fruit of all outsourcing and importation (offshoring of all kinds) is that regulation locally operates as a gift to the foreign nation, because they don't have such expenses.

>>108280692
HDD prices (non china shit) are getting ridiculous here in Ireland. I just bought a box of ten seagate baracudas 500GB 7200 64MB 6G/Bs to populate a RAID because the prices for 2TBs are fucking nuts now and the used stuff is fucking awful and the only seller I found who would sell me six new 2TBs wanted what would be nearly a 1000 fucking dollirinos at todays exchange rate. If I buy from the UK or US there are massive shipping costs. What the fuck happened? Don't mentionn china been there done that and that crap is worthless. Did some factiry blow up or something? I needed them to all match so mixing drives was not a runner.

>>108281880
sup

so like you may be wondering "how did I wake up incarcerated?"

And like most people, only you can answer this question. We can look back at your files. Maybe you were a doctor who got a little to grabby with the pills. Or maybe you had sex with your chihuahua. Lord only knows the sick shit that got you in this position. All we know is you deserve it and pretty much that's the last time I'm going to talk with you, goodbye.

>>108281901
a box of ten was 50 dollarinos and your mind is filled with bestality, prisions and medication.

Hello, scotland yard? I'd like to report an "innocent" hard drive buyer.

>>108278796
I just won't play shit games that put 0 effort into lighting and want Nvidia to do all the handholding for them even though I have a 5080. Same as I won't play any UE5 game that uses lumen or nanite. Don't reward lazy kike developers.

>>108281822
They're dead. Their current cards are even behind intel's battlemage in hardware support which is frankly embarrassing
>>108276765

>>108278796
This is a common misconception. When you design a scene, it's designed around a renderer. This means if you just throw it at another renderer, it's not a fair comparison. You can take a scene that works in povray and then bring it into cycles and it will be all messed up.

That's what you're seeing.

Is rasterization worse or better? I think it's a side show because if you look at her nose and hands they look really creepy and if I saw that in real life I would literally run as fast as my fat ass could take me.

>>108282022
investors don't care about gayming. on Linux, amd has the best support. Anyone who isn't on Linux is ... I won't say stupid, but really questionable.

>>108281116
Still looking for a more experienced person's opinion on this.
I've only been doing PC building for a few months.

What would a build like this have cost around a year ago?

>>108282042
>nyone who isn't on Linux is ... I won't say stupid, but really questionable.
if you have one onlined bucket of shit and another onlined bucket of shit which is the best bucket of shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmq9P-8FiM

>>108282054
You might have been able to get a 5080 FE drop in the US and fit that total budget if you dropped the SSD to a Gen 4.0 drive (same 4 TB capacity).
A better DDR5 memory as well.

Right now there is a prebuilt at my walmart with a 5070ti, 9800x3d, 32gb of ddr5, and a 2tb NVME for $1800. Right now my current setup is a 3700x and 5700xt with ddr4 ram.

Is there any way I could upgrade my PC to the same level as this prebuilt and spend less money without having to snipe sales or is this the best deal I'm going to get? I should mention 1 of my case fans died and I'm using a stock cpu cooler, so I'd need to buy those as well.

>>108282065
>You might have been able to get a 5080 FE drop in the US
Like on sale or something. That's a what? 1200$ MSRP card?

>dropped the SSD to a Gen 4.0 drive (same 4 TB capacity).
The prices have always been within like 100$ of each other.

>A better DDR5 memory as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't an X3D CPU make that pretty pointless? Pretty much all DDR5 is the same, or so I thought.

>>108282064
How quickly can you <em-dash ;)> create a note RIGHT NOW? hard mode: you have to use the computer.

>>108282086
>>108282065
a mi50 32gb goes for <$500. Yes, it's not for games, but who does that anymore? It's all about the LLM's. gaming = atari

>>108282086
> doesn't an X3D CPU make that pretty pointless?
Only in games and only to a certain degree. Even an X3D needs to fetch data from the memory every now and then.

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Spent the weekend tuning my RAM, eventually settled on these for now, there is probably a little more I can squeeze out but I'm tired of running stress tests for now. I need to tune tRFC/tREFI, and tune down voltages still, but I'm waiting on some fans and a bracket to hopefully get the temps down. In stress tests my RAM gets to 68C and my CPU's CCD can get to like 98C (furmark + ycruncher-NTT).

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Is core voltage something I should consider fucking with at all?

>KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
SHOULD I GET A MINI LED MONITOR OR IS IT JUST A MEME

>>108280731
omg I just realized that's Mina, isn't it?
and the response image >>108280790
is from an LGBTQIA+++ game LOL!!!

>>108280853
RTINGS is the highest value reviewer, monitors unboxed is a distant second. I'm not familiar with the spreadsheet in the OP although I've scanned it, I would still value the RTINGS review over everything else.

>>108280899
if you want a 16GB GPU you should splurge on the 5070ti or 9070xt. I think the 5060[ti or not] or 9060xt are for 8GB options.

>>108281029
but you can still listen to Rogan for free?
what else am I supposed to use for podcasts besides Spotify anyways? every time I try to research it they just recommend broken apps or Spotify/Apple. I don't own any Mac products, so I go Spotify.

>>108281019
>>108281059
holy fuck and I literally just recommended them before scrolling down.
S
>>108282562

>>108281083
we didn't. that's why cases had no windows.
pretty sure there's extra lanes in each ribbon, but I wasn't really tuned in at the time even though I tinkered in my PC back then.

>>108281225
based retard paying a premium for features xhe won't use.

>>108281498
I think most people reviewing them don't actually understand what Pulsar is, or why you would want it over OLED. since clearly the 1080 600hz ASUS and Zowie panels are strictly for CS/valorant so they're not the target audience for anything else.

>>108281577
there was never a delay announced. I don't know why ESL journalists are repeating this.

>>108281769
they have good products and they're more friendly to your budget.
ryzen was a minority too, and it still is in laptop and server, until it wasn't in DIY. not sure what your point is.

>>108282074
go plug it into pcpartpicker and let us know. that seems like a great deal though.

Okay. I've come to a conclusion on Corsair's SHIFT PSU. As I'm not on Corsair's payroll and I run no risk saying it unlike many people on Youtube who kiss ass to keep getitng free shit, the SHIFT power supplies are an absolutely fucking horrible idea and aren't compatible with anything. It doesn't matter how good they perform. They are fundamentally a short risk no matter how they're deployed, and they're an answer to a question that only morons asked.

>>108282086
DDR5 has a larger range from JEDEC to "overclocked" speeds than any prior generation.

>>108282659
And I know, Corsair. "But all our vendors LOOOOVED the idea." PC builders are failed crypto bros who play with Duplo blocks for a living minus any of the creativity of a toddler.

>>108282506
Setting it to 100 will allow your 5080 to pull 0.020v over stock
You can max it out on that card without problems since it's not power limited like the 5090

>suddenly reboot
>check sensors
>cpu idling at 60 C
time for the yearly repaste
lmao'd

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>put up my i7 7700 & 16gb ddr4 ram PC for $90 on marketplace
>guy drives 1 hr 30 min to buy it at night
>give him a can of soda for his efforts
i'm feeling comfy bros

>>108282685
cuck ritual. ptm7950 solves this cuckery.

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>>108282693
>ptm7950
I used picrel in the past, thinking I'd solve the repaste ritual, but after 1 year it still degraded so I went back to paste.

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>>108282693
>>108282711
I apply thermal paste with a rag on a stick.

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>>108281083
people tried but it was common knowledge it didn't really matter, and that linus techtips video where he stuffed his case full of junk top to bottom to finally prove it was some nice vindication after the fact
of course back then everything used half or less the power it does now so it was whatever. the PSU in my first build was 400w.

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Maybe I should get one of these and end winter early.

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>>108282744
it has an ashtray!

>>108282693
>>108282711
>>108282720
The heatsink I got came with a contact frame. Don't those let you not have to worry about short circuiting the cpu? Or was that something else?

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>>108282720
aight thermal grizzly rep, I bought your new snake oil (along with the CF I wanted to buy), will report back tomorrow

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>>108282774
the graph shows ptm7950 not the german cuck product.

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>>108281019
>>108281059
They'll have backtrack unless they want suicide

>>108282777
lot of fake ptm7950 going around so even if it's labeled as such anyone in the market should do a little research too to make sure it's legit

>>108282791
igor got the legic stuff and even tested it against the ltt stuff which is also legit. he is no fool.

>>108282777
the TM PTM is literally the same as honeywell's ptm7950, they even said such

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>>108282741
my cases only had a single exhaust fan on them too.

okay, absolutely stupid question I know but:
would it be okay to set my fans to 0 if temp <70°C ? Like is 70 going to be bad for my components ?
I'm also not sure it would reach 70, right now I have it set to <50°C for the CPU and <55°C for the case fan, and they alternate between on and off (over long time-spans I think, not like they flipflop)

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>>108282693
>>108282711
>>108282720
>>108282774
>>108282816
redpill me on this. I was considering a sheet but went with kryonaut paste on my build. I think the reason was because they just kind of melted at the time if things got too hot, or started to flake if you left your computer off too long or something.

Getting the Corsair 4000D Frame Nova. What fans do I get with it? I don't care for ARGB.

>>108282861
phantom spirit is better
also you don't have to repaste your pc ever. it can basically run for ever. they put this stuff in cars which are outside at any weather.

>>108282852
you would have to investigate each part specifically but modern CPUs can usually get to 90 C safely, and GPUs can get pretty hot too since they're essentially the same silicon. it's usually other components that start to thermal throttle first, like vram and dram and capacitors.

>>108282851
yep and the idea of routing cables behind the motherboard was barely a thing and the cables weren't made long enough to do it anyway.
and now we've got ram and even ssds that'll overheat without good airflow

>>108282872
phantom spirit wasn't a product when I built. I bought 7800x3d and 4070 on their launch days, and peerless assassin was the good model that all the reviewers were saying was equivalent to noctua's dual tower at 1/3 the price.
so what is it I search ptm on pcpartpicker and get nothing.

>>108282711
>>108282774
is this Italian?

>>108282879
the maker of the original ptm 7950 doesn't sell directly. you can buy it on moddiy.com and the ltt site. the legit legit stuff that doesn't perform like ass. you can also buy Thermal Grizzly Phase Sheet PTM >>108282816 which is the same.

>>108282761
The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised to see optical disk storage come back.

I have more respect for bros who break into a Micro Center to get their gpu than scalpers.

>>108282886
yeah, what about it?

>>108282910
wym? those gpus get used to train ai models on your data! those are not scalped gpus. they are doing work!

>>108282621
He clearly understands though but shits on it non stop
All pulsar reviews so far has been 50/50
Reviews are useless it seems since this is subjective

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>>108282888
what happens if I don't use my computer for a month?
are these them?

>>108282937
>what happens if I don't use my computer for a month?
nothin. they just become solid again until you use them again and repeat.
>are these them?
ye

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMD-Gfx-Drivers/issues/93
https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMD-Gfx-Drivers/issues/90#issuecomment-3889407307

POODNA2 CONFIRMED ABANDONED ALL DRIVER SUPPORT

IMAGINE ACTUALLY BUYING POODNA2 WITH REAL MONEY

>>108283011
hope they switch to linux and leave windows

>>108282074
>5070ti, 9800x3d, 32gb of ddr5, and a 2tb NVME for $1800
buying just those parts separately right now would come out to $1000 on 5070ti $400 9800X3D $400 32GB DDR5 and $300 2TB SSD

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I'm inclined to buy the 5060ti instead of the 5070 now just so I can generate slops on the side. It's going for $492 vs $618 in my country. Is it a good idea? Playing games at 1440p for now.

So ram remains unaffordable, however, I have managed to amass a fairly substantial amount of vram, say to the tune of 100 gigs or so. My question is what exactly do I buy that can slot all the PCIe and power it? I know people talk about epyc but what sort of cases and power solutions go with such a mobo?

for 9800X3D, what are best settings for OC (limiting). I want to powerlimit/underclock, should I just enable eco mode 65/105W or should I blay around with PBO? any guide I can read on this

9850x3d or 9900x3d?

>>108283055
always get 16gb

>>108282711
thats because thermal grizzly is trash.

>>108282720
>14h test
should have been 1400h test for any actual reliable results, pidors lab delivers again

>>108283272
they use ptm for cars. it's going to work fine for computers.

>>108283279
Degradation happens not in stress tests but from constant load-idle for prolonged period of time (several months-year)

what's the eta on 10800x3d? early 2027?
i have 7800x3d but i want more, not because 7800 is insufficient but because i'm a consumer whore

>>108283296
https://old.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/141b113/ptm_7950_1_year_report_and_new_repaste_pcs_gm7/

>>108283302
not reading this, I'm explaining termal interface testing.
Phase sheets are good, I'm glad they started putting them in GPUs now too, before they were only used in some laptops.

>5060 Ti for $530
I bought a 5070 for $550
If I bought a 5060 Ti it would run in pcie 3.0 x8 mode

>>108282720
Does it compare to MX-4?

>>108283342
it's close to liquid metal and doesn't dry out.

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>>108281083

there were ribbon cables dual ribbon cables for faster drives sleeved cables

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Talk me out of trying to get a MSI B850/X870 Tomahawk when I have a perfectly fine ASUS TUF B650E-E.

>>108283475
a 9800x3d to 9850x3d upgrade would make more sense than that.

>>108282074
There's no way you could build something like that for the same price/cheaper. The question is how is the build quality on it?

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>>108283479
also what is that sata location anus?

>>108283479
Maybe, just maybe. Having a small fear it will fry the 9800x3d even though that seems to have only been happening with the x870 boards. I also want more usb ports.

>>108283486
That's the 650-e, where mine is the 650e-e. I don't get these naming conventions.

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>>108283498
>That's the 650-e, where mine is the 650e-e.

>>108283498
>I also want more usb ports.
what about using those pcie slots for expansion?

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Should I resell my new 5070 and buy a 5060 Ti or 3090 instead? Used 5070's haven't gone up in price at all, they are on par with 5060 Ti's and I worry they may increase more. 3090's wre already well over 800 dollars again up from 600-700...

>>108283503
E is everything and the end.

>>108283507
Didn't even think about that. I'm assuming with the b650 boards I don't have to worry about lane sharing and all that if I do something like that.

>>108283511
why even wear anything at that point

>>108283481
I'm unsure, does cyberpower normally do a decent job?

>>108283557
I think Prebuilts are fine if you are a PC builder. Correcting minor issues or adding a fan or two or a cheap CPU cooler is no big deal.

>>108283529
>why even wear anything at that point
Very little clothing is way hotter than nude.

>>108283498
>>108283503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qsaPK6TCc

>>108283529
Structural support
Breasts are heavy

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>>108283605
>P C I EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>108283605
E, it's in the E!

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All my friends are telling me not to get an AIO, but like the contrarian I am I sort of want to now. Should I bite the bullet? What's a good middle of the road one for a 9800x3d?

>>108283342
people still use mx4? what year is this, 2010?

>>108283617
It lasts forever, no? I bought mine in 2019 and 2023

>>108283511
5070 would actually be goated if it had 24GB of VRAM, it would be 3090 performance and capacity at under 200W

>>108283626
in the tube maybe. it dries out under the cooler. i still have like 80% of a 20g tube.

>>108283635
I was stupid enough to buy 45g of that stuff after exhausting my 2019 edition despite having mastergel laying around

>>108283637
i also have the 2019 edition. haven't used anything else since then because i payed 20bux for it 7 years ago.

>>108283626
what do you mean lasts? Maybe at that time it was good but now the market is flooded with good thermal interfaces.

>>108283585
proof?

>>108283645
consider the following:

>>108283641
>i payed 20bux for it 7 years ago

>>108283645
In 20 years of building pcs i only had to repaste a single gpu due to severe degraded performance after 5 years.
Every other component either had enough headroom or got swapped before it got noticeable outside of hw info.
and now we enter 2026 with big heatsinks, the pump out on a gpu with 65ºc max is propably nonexistant

>>108283735
well a lot of the gpus use ptm 7950 now. it's the future old man.

>>108283735
pumpout is still a thing that's why they started using phase change pads on GPU.
There is indeed a huge improvement in 50xx series over 30xx series which was a housefire but lets not forget CPUs exist and they're actually is worse position because of permanent vertical position.

>>108283616
360mm ones are cheap
Your friends might be retarded

>>108283744
But if you run a fuckhuge tower it comes off every other year anyway. An ayyo with low weight and 40ºc water propably has almost no degredation

>>108283741
Yea the enshittified future, where a single use pad is the cost of a lifetime supply mx7. I consider them when they are 5ct each

>>108283735
the pcbs on these xbox huge gpus will all crack and break long before pump out is an issue

>>108283762
repaisting is gay and voids warranty. i'd take never have to take appart something for not having to use past again.

>>108283766
>warranty
What warranty after years and years

>>108283797
hardware sells better with the sticker intact. single use is also not a problem if you don't have to take the card appart for a decade. it's prefect.

>>108283808
Never had an issue with that before. Even sold cooler swapped card before

>realise the PSU i ordered was a "SFF" psu
>SFF = small form factor
>have no need for it so ask it to be cancelled
>its an amazon order and they're like yeah ok we will sort it out
>they put in a "cancel and return" order on the delivery
>tracking updates saying its gone halfway across europe anyway

fuck my fucking chungus life

>>108283748
I mean I don't blame them. When AIOs came out you'd hear about all the leaking and dead systems. And sure even then it was rare, but if your choice was not taking that risk at all for comparable results, since CPUs weren't getting as hot, then you why bother? It's like how people in the US are still afraid of the MSG, despite consuming it unknowingly.

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Anyone here have the Corsair 4000D Frame RS? How do you like it? Thinking of getting it because I can just go pick it up locally and start building.

this is why you buy the 16gb card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmdZlc5P93I

>>108283912
>brown thumbnail
opinion invalidated

>>108283912
ngubu can now steal grandma's last penny with his clever AI scams

we are headed to a total internet lockdown btw

>>108283920
it's a decent guy

>>108283930
>grifter using AI

Yeah real fucking decent

>>108283912
>>108283930
buy an ad

>browns started spamming their youtube channels on 4chan for advertisement
its over isnt it

>>108283824
do a sff build

So is this JOYJOM ptm7950 not the real stuff or what? I want everything by tomorrow. If not I'll just use paste.

>>108284075
are you buying drugs and posted this by mistake or something? wtf are you talking about.

>>108284043
always report them for something like phishing if they do that, unless its directly related and useful to the topic that is.

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>>108284100
>are you buying drugs and posted this by mistake or something? wtf are you talking about.

>>108284075
assume it's counterfeit until proven otherwise

>>108284150
I'm sure it's not "Honeywell" but any reason others can't make a similar product that's just as good?

>>108280692
Do I basically have to resign myself to AIO RGB slop for my 5080/9850x3 build or are there any reliable HSFs that can still keep everything cool?

Oh I see I can just buy the Thermal Grizzly one. I'll do that. Fuck Honeykikes.

>>108284161
Just depends how much you want them cooled. Your usual Noctua and be quiet! heatsinks still work pretty fine. They won't get as low as AIOs, but that shouldn't be a big deal for a 9850x3d.

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so if i have a 4070ti super do i downgrade 591.86 to 576.88? or does it only matter for re9? didn't the version before 591.86 have some issues as well?

>>108284203
sell it and get a better and more reliable amd gpu. also switch from windows to linux.

>>108284211
lmao'd

>>108284211
i do use linux but only for ml stuff i need for work. if i ever decide to fully dump after effects and 3ds max i will put an amd gpu in and daily drive linux like i used to

>>108284218
no use case for nvidia gpus outside of windows.

>>108284227
or actual ML work

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>>108284229
>ML
>work

>>108284075
>>108284106
ah, who knows, paste is fine, if you're gonna go to these extremes with unproven stuff like this, just lap-sand your cpu's surface so you can min-max that way.

>>108284161
the tower coolers that can keep it cool, are kinda big, and you'll need a full-size case to fit them, they can also cause problems with ram sticks too, overlapping some of the larger designs.

AIO's are fine and there's models without rgb, you can also just turn that shit right off, its not hard.

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So the dual 140mm deshroud attempt is kind of scuffed compared the 3x120mm mod, and this is gonna cost me in zip ties to redo.

Even if the second fan was not a closed corner fan, a good place to mount on the heatsink and not have the ties bow out, be too short, or thin is a problem so far.

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>>108284411
Why don't you buy something like pic related, and mold some holding brackets or something?

You can basically make anything out of this, then file/sand it down with some time.

>>108284383
>extremes
A little extreme to call it an extreme. Will it lower your temps significantly compared to paste? Perhaps, perhaps not. Is it going to do any damage to your PC up if it doesn't? No. You'll just get the same temps as paste but have spent more.

>>108284469
Didn't know these existed, haven't recalled seeing that kind of product in my area. I'll check it out.

>>108284504
It's great to have in general if you are a DIY person. People have used it to repair metal not just plastic

>>108284411
Could do something in CAD and 3D print it.

>>108282865
>>108283847
Just see what others are doing and mimic.
https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/?using=LMZWGX

>>108282659
>>108282670
Skill issue. Perfectly fine PSUs , but overpriced. You get a warranty from a domestic company rather than Asia if that's a pro.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/apple-debuts-m5-pro-and-m5-max-to-supercharge-the-most-demanding-pro-workflows/

IT'S OVER

THIS KILLS THE x86 MEME

Should I buy an IPS or OLED monitor? I'm on 1440p60 IPS right now
My GPU is sleeping in all these games

>>108284775
>>>/lgbt/

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>mfw discovered the actual reason GPUs use standoffs
ABORT ABORT

>>108284802
OLED if you have the money for it and you don't mind the idea of possibly replacing it in 5 years. Better in basically every way, most notably response time and blacks. The claimed response time for IPS LCDs is often a little exaggerated compared to actual GtG measurements.

>>108284858
wait until you find out what vrm heatsinks do to motherboards

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>>108284858
well at least the contact pressure is really really good now
shame i might have just ripped every single pad under the memory and core chips by forgetting to buy some nuts or spacers to limit how far i could drive the screws

>>108284878
that's a tiny heatsink, I assume it's a 1060 or 2060

this is the heatsink on my 9070xt

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>>108284864
>tfw have the money but don't want to spend it
I'll wait for Prime Day or something...sucks that's the only chance of getting any kind of deals now

>>108284876
i would have thought uneven etandoffs do more damage by pcb flexing

>>108284945
I'd just camelcamelcamel some monitors and see if they drop back down to their lows.
You can also just bookmark your favorite monitors on other retailers and give the prices a check every day.
Sometimes the best prices aren't when there's some coordinated event.

>>108284733
>Just see what others are doing and mimic.
I try not to, but I'm just going with the 4000D Frame because I have their 4000D and it really hasn't done me wrong. I hate the i/o placement, but I want to build the PC and just ride with it to the end of the world. Almost thought of getting one of those special ones like the other anon but meh.

>>108284891
>he doesnt know 3060 ti/3070 use those

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>>108284878
I completely forgot before trying this to buy nuts to limit the screws going in from the backside, the M4 side doesn't change it just holds the heatsink, M2's into the standoff hold the pcb from the back and the nut prevents the pcb from being screwed down below the level of the die area which is what happened here with no limiters.
question is if off the shelf nuts can match the height of the die here

>>108285018
With how many weeks and time you've wasted failing to repair that GPU you could've worked overtime and bought another used or brand new 50x0 GPU

poor people logic, learn when to cut off

>>108284945
You can get a 32" 4K ASUS OLED on B&H for 700$.
Probably the best deal you'll find on it.

>>108285091
>With how many weeks and time you've wasted failing to repair that GPU
I haven't though, not sure where you're getting that idea, the GPU worked but I just need to get the heatsink strapped on safely again
>bought another GPU
I already did that weeks ago, which is why I am free to experiment since it's not like it'll have much resale value by this point

>>108285171
Fair enough. I've sworn youve messed with it for weeks now so it's just funny. First the fans, then the standoffs, then the stuck standoff, now the thermal pads...

>>108285189
>I've sworn youve messed with it for weeks now so it's just funny
I only spend some minutes working on this card every other week or so and post my misadventures and other funny bullshit as it happens, so it looks that way
Shit moves slow when you're busy with other stuff

All my case fans are 120mm. Am I screwing myself for not having a single 140mm?

>>108285266
Bigger fans move more or same airflow at lower quieter rpm. However you obviously pay more for a physically larger fan.
If your case can support it, sure.
You should always buy the biggest fans for your case unless you're saving money by reusing old fans.

>>108285290
I see. Maybe I'll try to get bigger fans in the future.

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my PC has only 16 GB of RAM (8x2)
I run
>wmic memphysical get maxcapacity, memorydevices
it says:
MaxCapacity
67108864 = 64 GB

But the specs on the website say it can only be upgraded to 32 GB (i.e. 16x2)

I don't wanna buy 32x2 in this economy and then it not working

What do?

>>108285402
>not having 256GB
lol

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do monitor light bars actually do anything for display clarity?

just seems like ewaste to me

>my full ATX case is smaller than these mATX cases
Seriously, what the hell?

>>108285423
Ewaste
>>108285444
Full tower vs Mid Tower
Also Full Tower nowadays are not Full Towers they're made by short midget Asians
I have PC cases from 20 years ago that are much larger than the "Full Tower" cases of today's

When I was young I was mislead that the world average height would get higher and more people would be my size
Now all the Asians and Hispanics are bringing down the height average with their small hands and feet and size
I'm 6'5" so I hate all these small ass fishtank cases coming out

>>108285423
it's not for the display notice the pen and paper it's just a lamp in a different place

asians swear by them for some reason

>>108285402
You need context, that eats up v/ram.

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>>108285413
answer my question instead of mocking me

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>>108285500
huh what do you mean?

>>108285402
>my PC has only 16 GB of RAM
thats enough for most use cases
>I don't wanna buy 32x2 in this economy
then dont?
>What do?
what do you want to do

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>>108285518
I want to upgrade to 64 GB but the site says it only supports 32 GB (16 GB max in a slot) while cmd says it supports 64 GB
I want to buy but not if it won't boot
how do I make sure buying 32x2 won't be a waste of time?

>>108285537
what mobo cpu

>>108285476
Other way around. I have an ATX midtower. It's smaller than these mATX midtowers I'm looking at. I was looking to downsize, and it's like, "pay $65 for an inch gained in one direction and 2 inches lost in another"

>>108285537
You can't run anything amazing on 64gb, I have 64gb. 64gb should be nobody's grail.

>>108285537
>>108285548
>>108285506
>>108285500
sorry, I mistakenly thought you were interested in llm.

Yeah, I like having 64gb, but it's mostly when using Blender, or when using diffusion (the gpu does the hard work, but somehow python and comfyui can be pigs).

>>108285540
Manufacturer - CZ
Product - Scala_CAS

CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 5800H with Radeon Graphics

>>108285560
I want it for similar blender Comfy work as well

>>108285548
The Meshify 3 is considered a midtower lol

case manufacturers tend to think Full Tower is 420mm minimum now

>>108285565
is that a laptop
if you want 64gb ram buy a desktop

>>108284161
>AIO RGB slop
Why would you ever when LF III exists? You shouldn't use anything else anyways, unless it's custom loop or really low power and heatsink would work fine.

>>108285423
lmao this is just a lamp

What is KVM exactly? I see many monitors adverise this.

>>108285545
That's a lot of work for silliness. Do you live in a broom closet? I never understood people and wanting a small ass PC.

>>108285635
Have you ever tried googling ? Very useful website

>>108285664
I googled it and I got KVM virtualization which is a Linux thing.

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>>108285671

>>108285671
u might be a dumb brownie

>>108285577
Will it overheat the laptop or something? I want to buy a desktop but I've only got funds for RAM right now

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>>108285686
>You use a Mac for design and a PC for rendering

>>108285699
if you need ram you also need good cpu/gpu to do relevant work

>>108285699
Using a laptop for 3d and AI work that isn't using a dedicated GPU or the like is like asking if a Honda Civic is good at towing large loads

Zero reason to have 64gb of RAM in a shitty laptop
Get 32gb or just buy a fucking desktop

I don't get it why is Pulsar locked to nvidia
shouldn't this just work on anything

>>108285723
>>108285730
I do have a dedicated gpu frens. 6gb Infact. RTX 3060

I'm okay with my Ryzen 7 and only 6 GB of gpu taking a little longer.

The thing is if I buy RAM for 1 laptop then I can use the old RAM from this laptop to upgrade my old laptop too and make it usable for small uses.

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>>108284203
at this point, I'm never updating.

>>108285741
The driver (inf file) tells the monitor how to act.

>>108284775
unless nvidia can get their ARM stuff working, there will continue to be an x86 market.
AMD can do ARM but there's no demand. nvidia has enough market share that they can create the demand.

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>>108285741
Because NVIDIA spent the time and money to research & commercialize this display tech.
If you think the tech is easy to replicate, wait for AMD or someone else to come up with their solution.
AMD still doesn't have a decent frame generator btw.

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>gaming as an adult
>for a brief moment you try to brainwash yourself into thinking games might actually still be enjoyable still
>but it's all a facade trying to catch a glimpse of times gone
>it ultimately feels like the pointless activity that it was
>you try more
>it fails
>the more you try to hide from the cold hard truth of reality the more you fail to grasp it
>you ride multiple waves of kubler ross cycles trying to escape the ultimate final end conclusion of it all
>that it's finally over
>don't cry because it's over
>smile because it happened

>>108285741
in 2 years it will be cheap and open source.

>>108285828
sounds like you're having a midlife crisis.
unironic skill issue.

>>108285741
Same reason Gsync is locked? Nobody uses Gsync anymore because it's a sign the monitor has QC issues or is more expensive just for a logo. Alienware fags know this best how Gsync monitors got cucked with updates versus Freesync Pro panels.

>>108285741
>>108285823
>muh pulsar! muh dlss! muh daily shot of njudea semen!

fuck them jewkike nvidia negros.

>>108285851
>>108285851

Freshly baked

>>108285841
sounds like he is no longer a child and modern games are disgustingly bad compared to the old ones.

this is actually a blessing. modern gaming is an iq test. only retarded niggs participate. if modern games were as good and high quality as old games were it would be like digital crack cocaine.

>>108281019
At least I won't see fags posting their trash like it means anything anymore. Maybe next the site with the scrolling alien image will paywall itself.

>>108283511
Retard. Why are you even considering selling a card for a worse one?

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>>108285841
Let's see Paul Allen's midlife crisis

>>108285880
I think I would maybe even enjoy new ones more than old for the new novel experience(tm) to some degree
old games just make me realize their imperfections and annoyances that still exist
I have a very peculiar level autismal thinking too, yeah

>>108285832
>>108285850
It's not just the MediaTek display scaler that's different from these Pulsar-capable monitors.
>Requires multi-zone, rolling scan backlight vs. always-on or fixed rate (ULMB) strobing backlights
>New MediaTek scaler that manages VRR + Overdrive + Rolling scan strobing vs. basic VESA Adaptive-Sync protocols, no dedicated hardwre required
>Pixel overdrive changes millisecond to millisecond to match rolling scan strobe timing vs. simple overdrive tuned to refresh rate, not accounting for flash strobing
>Requires higher maximum brightness LCD monitors because the backlight is off for roughly 75% of a frame when Pulsar is enabled (Pulsar monitors typically have 500+ nits peak SDR brightness).
Try educating yourself before you post your diarrhea.

>>108285864
>'fuck the guys who develop & commercialize new graphics & display tech'
AMD Radeon hasn't released anything new to win over PC gamers in a very long time, they just copy whatever NVIDIA's doing after 2~4 years.

>>108285423
Yes, for the desk in front of the monitor.

>>108285423
Some intern was actually tasked at trying to make a monitor lamp mean something else than just that.

>>108285828
>it ultimately feels like the pointless activity that it was
yes there's a big feeling that it's a waste of time which is ironic because that feeling doesn't happen when idly flitting between websites and twitch streams and dropping into a random game for a brief period (all wastes of time, but what isn't) but any longer sessions start that nagging feeling that I should be doing something, anything else.
the other issue is that after playing enough games everything seems so tropey and obvious for lack of a better description. it's like i can feel the devs intention when they make their design decisions and how the stories are constructed and how certain characters are written. just things like my brain instantly categorizes npcs as "this is an NPC that has no valuable information" than actual parts of a world. small glimmers of things that scream "this is a game" and pull me out enough to circle back to point 1 where my brain tells me I shouldn't be wasting my time on this shit
very odd

>>108285919
exactly! fuck amdjeets as well! no! fuck amdjeetniggers even harder as those fuckig turds never fail to underdeliver

it has been a monopoly market for over a decade. its over.

ai jews rape us. jeetcoders rape us. korean memory makers rape us. ssd chinks rape us. its a customer rape fest. being a nerd is the new cuckoldry.

if people werent such cucks I would lead raid parties to rob computer stores and shiiiet. people should openly riot and plunder electric devices like niggers do.

>>108285958
>which is ironic because that feeling doesn't happen when idly flitting between websites and twitch streams
the difference between consooming random media slop is there is no value investment or sense of loss, which gaymes have, with slop media it's no invested time or goal except just temporary entertainment
when you begin to ponder something that takes active engagement (gaymes) you have to ask yourself, what is the goal? how will this benefit me years down the line? will this be relevant by then or will I not even care? - but muh nihilsim! if you think that doesn't matter than nothing matters. but you could quantifiably say that wage slaving more in 10 years would benefit you more than gaymen more.
what is actually separating is that one thing is not as entertaining as it once was, games are not just games as in entertainment, there is a forced goal or trying be good at something, and if there is a goal then what is the goal? for what purpose? oh no purpose except getting gud, then there is no point after all
walked into this mind trap many times
but I'm sure it differs from different gayme genres and other things too

tldr trying to find a time waste but eventually being upset that time waste is not effective time wast and should do something else instead
ideally should not waste time though

>>108285880
idk I play comp games so I don't feel bad about it. I can't imagine being strictly a single player gamer.

>>108285823
bricks mostly shouldn't be glossy like that.