Is Linux Mint still good?

>>108361620
It hasn't been for the past 5-6 years.

Over a month since blasting Windows off my desktop and going to Fedora KDE, and it's been comfy. Game performance has been about the same as Windows with my RTX 3080, and the desktop feels smoother and less microstuttery than Win11 is at this point.
The main issue I've run into has been around WINE/Bottles RAM usage which could just be config issues on my part. In particular, if I run something from Bottles that has a launcher that then kicks off a game (e.g. EVE Online Launcher -> EVE Online) the launcher eats 4GB RAM on its own on top of what the game client itself will use. I can go ahead and close that launcher, but for EVE in particular that's annoying because I may want to fire up several game clients.

Is there a pdf viewer that works in the TTY? I want to read the Gentoo handbook while installing

Is the OBS Studio flatpak best to use on Arch? The normal package has no browser sources and the AUR has issues.

Is there not a bin of it anywhere?

How do you guys migrate your installs to new hardware?
Do you image the drive/partition and copy it to the new computer? or do you go from a fresh install and move your settings/packages to the new computer?
In the latter case, how do you back up your settings, customizations and packages?
Asking for Arch/CachyOS. The Arch wiki does have a section about that but they don't really go into detail about how to backup and restore the above.

>>108362111
What do you mean no browser sources? As in you can't capture video from a web browser window? If so, that's a problem on your end, not on OBS.

>>108362111
>OBS Studio is officially distributed as a Flatpak on Flathub and a PPA for Ubuntu 24.04 and newer.
Flatpak is the standard way to install it unless you're on Ubuntu and want to use PPAs.

>>108362132
read and learn how to use rsync

>>108362150
is it enough to just backup and restore ~?

>>108362132
>The Arch wiki does have a section about that but they don't really go into detail about how to backup and restore the above.
This article you mean?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Migrate_installation_to_new_hardware
All your user-specific settings are stored in your home directory, so it's just a matter of transferring the home directory. The important things to watch out for are the /etc/fstab and GRUB

It's been a while since I set up a clean new OS: Does KDE Plasma on Endeavour support thumbnails in the file picker yet? I remember having to install the GNOME file picker to get thumbnails in the past

>>108362225
Yes, that article.
Thanks Anon, that's what I wanted to know the most.

>>108362232
KDE had thumbnails in the file picker decades before GNOME did, you probably didn't install the xdg-desktop-portal-kde which is what handles the filepicker dialog in KDE

>>108362232
Usually it's codec dependent, and easily solved by installing ffmpegthumbnailer

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Are there any videos or guides that each you how to do this stuff step by step? I've been using archinstall, and now I want to learn how to install arch just by using the command line and /mnt commands and such. I tried to follow DistroTube's youtube video from 1 month ago, but even with following it with the mistakes and edits he's made, it's still hard to follow and the os gets stuck in the bootloader just rebooting over and over again.

I dont' think he even created a var/cache/pacman/pkg partition the way the archinstall creates.

Is there a way to learn how to do the same thing as the archinstall, but with command line? All the videos on youtube seem outdated. I just want to learn how to install arch with btrfs, compression, and plasma or xfce.

>>108362483
Follow the wiki

>>108362135
Huh? I don't think you have ever used OBS lol, browser sources are for like chat and alerts and stuff to interact with people like song requests and tts etc. I don't stream anymore but I've been thinking of starting again so I need browser sources.
>>108362143
Okay thanks.

>>108362565
I've never used it for streams, I never did a stream. Only recordings.

Are there any easy fixes for an unreliable tsc?

>>108362576
Yah no worries, the browser sources just let you link to things like stream elements and botrix so viewers can interact with the streamer.

>>108362232
It does and works wonders, but I had to force it in e.g. Firefox with a user pref.

>>108362276
>the xdg-desktop-portal-kde
Don't recall this. Looking into it.
I'm specifically talking about the picker in browser or whatever, not the browser

>>108362483
cachyos :^)

>>108362629
you need to enable firefox to use the portal
open about:dialog and set widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker to 1.

>>108362652
about:config*

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>>108362652
That was it! Thanks Anon

>>108361620

it does not have exiftool but exif
low res do not window that good
i like xia 22.1 xfce

>>108362097
idk, you can ssh into it

>>108362498
I don't want to follow a wiki, I want to watch a video so I can make sure I'm doing and seeing the exact same thing. Those wikis never work 100%.

>>108363000
but then at this point you're not learning anything, it's just monkey see monkey do.

>>108362072
Are you running the launcher in same prefix? You do know that you should create just one and you'll be able to run all the stuff with the same one. This should reduce the memory overhead but idk how bottles manages multiple things though.
umu-run allows you to do this without loading multiple runtimes at the same time etc so it should work in bottles too.

>>108362695
I only have one machine, well two but the other one has windows and i don't want to be ssh'ing into gentoo from fucking windows

I guess I will just be using w3m to read the online documentation

>>108362483

compressed btrfs plasma for what purpose maybe want aes256 too

Are there download managers for Linux besides JDownloader that are actually good? With "good" I mean managers that can crawl websites for download links like JDownloader does.
I tried Aria2, Motrix, Kget, Persepolis, AB Manager, and Gopeed, but none of them can actually download shit from a website automatically unless I give them the specific download links. This sucks because if a website has many links, then I'll have to copypaste every single one, and if the links are hidden behind some sort of JavaScript I won't be able to do it quickly, and if the downloads are limited then I won't be able to use the manager at all (because once I click the download button to get the link, that will count as "having downloaded" and therefore I won't be able to use the manager at all).
Why are download manager alternatives such fucking trash? I saw someone recommend Mipony as alternative to JDownloader, but apparently it's only available for Windows and Mac not Linux.
Help, bros.

>>108363070
It should all be running in the same prefix, but I'll mess with it later

>>108363182
>compressed btrfs
not that guy
what are the pros and cons of compressed btrfs in your opinion?

>>108362132
>do you go from a fresh install and move your settings/packages to the new computer?
Yes. IMO this is the most obvious way as there's nothing "special" about system binaries and other files -> why back them up?
>how do you back up your settings, customizations and packages?
>your settings
Copying over your old $HOME covers all the possible user data like browser profiles and what have you.
>packages
I just install them as I go, don't have that much bits and pieces to remember. For Arch it's fairly easy to create a simple text file list of packages and import it on a new setup.
>settings
Like system settings?
For servers there's loads of crap under /etc, back them up too.
>>108362150
What's the use case for using rsync locally? Assuming we are restoring a local backup.
>>108362225
You wouldn't use the same fstab or GRUB on a different install.
And what does "GRUB" even mean in this context? The boot sector of a legacy BIOS setup?

>>108361620
i've never used mint, always been ubuntu/debian/fedora

>>108363024
I can learn after, I just want to try the thing first to see if I should invest time learning it. Now that I know that I like arch after using archinstall menu, now I want to learn how to do it the hardway. but I want a video. Not a wiki.

>>108363221
Yeah there's a lot of uncertainty with these launchers and components... not that user friendly after all the shills.

I'm not sure if this is the right thread but I'm trying to install Moode on an SD card for my friend to use on his raspberry pi but I don't have a pi to install raspbian or whatever it's called that's needed to install moode. Is there anything I can do on fedora?

I have Mint on my shitty 4GB laptop. In your experience, what's the best for a desktop with Nvidia GPU? I tried googling but the reddit opinions are literally suggesting opposites (Fedora is best for Nvidia drivers, Fedora is worse for Nvidia drivers)
I might not even be gaming on Linux but I still don't want shitty Nvidia drivers (already shitty enough on Windows lately)

>>108363578
Drivers are always the same.

>>108363578
i'm also on a 4gb machine and when i installed debian it seems to have automatically set the nivida drivershat come with debian i know in fedora i had to manually installed the drivers with the software app but its like what do you mean by shitty like gnome works, firefox works, webgl works but slow

>>108363598
>>108363651
I'm just getting bad info from google I guess. I don't mind doing a little more to install the drivers, I just want to make sure game performance or stability isn't impacted by it. Like I said I might not even game on Linux but it will in fact be using an Nvidia GPU and I might fuck around a little with games.
Desktop is 5700x3D, 2070 Super, 32 GB so less concerned with desktop performance unlike my laptop which I'm keeping to Mint Xfce.

>>108363722
>game
no idea on games sorry, everything i do is strictly gnome firefox and the terminal so like GPU stuff doesnt impact me, i know on my machine i wouldnt be able to play anything besides like retro games in emulators

>>108363223
Not either of those, but compressed btrfs only makes sense if your CPU is much faster than your backing store. In the context of a boot drive it means you're probably using SATA or eMMC.

>>108363403
If you can't follow a wiki to install the system you should fuck off and pick a different distro.
And this is ignoring the fact that there are dozens of such tutorials on YouTube which take literal seconds to look up. If you can't manage that I don't think even Windows is for you.

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>wiggling the mouse cursor left and right makes it temporarily bulge up to help you see where it is currently
funny

>>108363000
>I don't want to follow a wiki, I want to watch a video so I can make sure I'm doing and seeing the exact same thing. Those wikis never work 100%.
no, zoomette. trust us. read the fucking wiki. it's correct. you don't need a video like a toddler. you can handle it. the whole process is like five steps anyway.

>>108364210
>shake it more and it keeps growing bigger and bigger
why though

I quit my job now I have more time to GNU/Linux. I think I want to fresh install gentoo. I've had my current gentoo install for a few years. Things I want to do different:
>encryption (auto decrypt from usb, if that's a thing)
>no dist-kernel
>no btrfs
>no grub
>no flatpak
>no i3
I want to get that damn custom splash screen to work. I've also always used Thunar and might try out a few others before deciding. I'm not to keen on LF or Ranger.

>>108365167
>auto decrypt from usb
what's that supposed to be?
Just encrypt your drive when you partition it

>>108365190
I don't want to enter a passcode every reboot. Keep the key on a removable disk. It makes sense in my head

>>108365211
You can use a keyfile, but sounds like a bad idea to just let it lie around on some unprotected usb. Maybe use a yubikey or something.

>>108361620
It's Ubuntu with a stupid default DE. What do you think?

>>108365236
Smart

>>108365348
>some shit based on gnome vs gnome
>no snaps vs snaps
it's less stupid than ubuntu at least.
Also, bonus points for being green

I love how arch just works, but still filters complete retards. A miraculous balance that surely can't last.

>>108361685
>If you think you're a girl, you're a girl
Truth nuke!

>>108365807
One day compile times will never be an issue and Gentoo will reign supreme!

>>108365871
I'll be on a LLM powered VM doing semantic computing years before that happens. In my Holodeck I'll make a world where Gentoo won and report back

Why gentoo wiki moving slow? Not a good day to reinstall..

>>108361089
>Mint is literally Ubuntu without Snaps.
I looked at mint but the ui is too boring. I would rather try pop os and the Cosmic UI (alpha/beta). I suppose Fedora is an option too.
I need to copy my home folder to an external drive to move it to the new distro. Will this just work or do I need to boot from a live usb OS first?

>>108361620
Good? Yes.
Great? No.
Mint is in serious need of an upgrade and lift up. Cinammon is just old and buggy now. While the OS itself is just a worse Ubuntu.
Still, it's the best Ubuntu fork you can get. They do an amazing job at removing Canonical's bs and keeping what makes Ubuntu good. They just do it worse and slower now.
I hope that for 26.04 they do a makeover and maybe finally start supporting Gnome and KDE. Or at least bring Cinammon to par.
TL;DR Mint was old and functional, now is just old.

>>108364690
For
>fun

So do you guys not use any download manager at all? >>108363208

>>108366040
Man... I realy wish there was a decent Ubuntu fork Like, just Ubuntu without Canonical's shit.

>>108366428
Debian testing.

>>108363208
If you don't care about your freedom: Free download manager. It's proprietary malware, which I would never personally use. But you do you

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My friend has an HDD with Windows 10 and I'm thinking of giving her an old laptop with a decent CPU (she has an AMD A9-9425, mine has a Ryzen 5 3600U). She is a little broke. She's been wanting to try using Linux but all her personal photos are on the HDD. I know Linux can read NTFS; I just tested my own secondary NTFS D: drive in a Fedora live USB. Could Linux read the files off the C: drive? Assuming she doesn't have BitLocker enabled, how the fuck does someone go about transferring files between NTFS and ext4 drives? Her HDD + CPU combo is painfully slow.

>>108366503
>how the fuck does someone go about transferring files between NTFS and ext4 drives
I have an external NTFS HDD and I copy it to my ext4 drive like normal. Vice versa works too

>>108366503
>Linux read the files off the C: drive?
Just make sure to have fast reboot (or something similar I forget, it's in the power options on the control panel in winshitslop) disabled. Otherwise the drive stays in read only mode without being able to change it easily

>>108366521
oh okay so I was right to assume it would work that way then
>>108366533
hopefully her drive isn't failing. she tried copying all her phone photos to her computer recently and it got stuck so she gave up. I have never heard of a AMD A9-9425 either. Its apparently on par with a Celeron.

>>108366620
The setting is called fast startup. If you don't disable that on power settings you won't be able to transfer files over. Good luck anon

What do I have to do to forward this port on Linux Mint? I have the firewall enabled because it's disabled by default. I get this error when I open Nicotine+
>UPnP: Failed to forward external port 2234: UPnP is not available on this network

I tried adding some gufw rules but that didn't work. Pls help, I need people to download my flacs.

>>108366628
Thank u anon

>>108366040
actually, I'm now thinking of following the recommendations here and getting atomic Fedora with cosmic ui

>>108363024
Being fair to him: The wiki fucking sucks for the install method. And I partially blame it on wiki editors not cleaning it up and having diarrhea of the writing to where those "five simple steps" get bloated out.

>>108366503
>how the fuck does someone go about transferring files between NTFS and ext4 drives?
The same way they would on Windows...

You should be more worried about Windows having a melty for touching the Windows drive if she goes back to Windows (keeps an install) because anything Linux touches that is NTFS has Windows freak out about it and say it's "corrupt" (it isn't) and wants to fix it (which you can tell it to fuck off and not do) because Microslop hates Linux.

FWIW, if she goes full Linux and wants to move anything that is ext4 back to NTFS, Windows won't see the ext4 drive/data (like... duh, right?) and it's a huge pain in the ass to move it back from Linux.

talk me out of using homebrew

>>108366834
The wiki is fine for a bare bones basic ext4 install with no encryption but for anything more you have to read other articles which can get quite large. I mean just look at the btrfs wiki article. It's practically the same size as he entire install guide.

>>108366882
Idk archinstall just werks. I don't see the point of doing it without it

>>108366910
I agree. I can understand wanting to learn how to do it yourself but after you have the gist of it, it just feels like a waste of time doing it manually.

>>108366834
> And I partially blame it on wiki editors not cleaning it up and having diarrhea of the writing to where those "five simple steps" get bloated out.
Whatever happened to KISS?

>>108366848
Fuck I really hope she's committed to using Linux.

>>108366848
>because anything Linux touches that is NTFS has Windows freak out about it and say it's "corrupt"
Is this a new ntfs3 problem or pebcak?

>>108361612
Is there a reason why Xubuntu sometimes forgets my display and audio settings and doesn't detect my preferred audio output? Does it have to do with the fact it always asks me for display opinions when I boot? Does it have anything to do with the fact that one of my monitors is a tv?

>>108366882
NTA but Arch installation guide sucks. Although when you get into neckbearding and really understand the basics you don't need those guides that much, only for some distro specifics such as the "pacstrap" command that pulls Arch packages.
(why don't every distro simply hand out a rootfs tarball instead? enough of the snowflake bootstrapping commands)
>>108366910
>>108366920
The part where you set up the target mount point is sometimes easier done from the terminal, I even did that with Debian.
>fire up a shell from the installer
>partition drives
>format partitions as whatever filesystems
>mount filesystems under /target accordingly
>????
>exit shell, return to installer

>>108367436
The only good guided installer I've come across when it comes to partitioning and mounting is Void Linux, and that's because it just opens cfdisk for that step.

>>108367566
I dunno why so many tutorials tell you to use fdisk still when cfdisk is so much faster

>>108367572
You may not have it installed.

>>108367436
>Arch installation guide sucks
Seems fine to me. For the bootloader they kinda just point you toward the huge article on boot loaders and tell you to figure it out from there, but otherwise the guide seems pretty straight forward.

>The part where you set up the target mount point is sometimes easier done from the terminal
I heard archinstall can be a bit finnicky for more complicated layouts and some people advise doing it manually, but I've always just done the most basic "wipe the whole disk and install Linux" which the script handles fine.

>>108367566
>>108367572
Yeah cfdisk is my favorite. Don't see the point in using anything else.

>>108366946
>Whatever happened to KISS?
Being fair (again) to the wiki: They DO try to account for all possible hardware/corner cases. Which is fine...

EXCEPT... that shouldn't be in the install guide. It should be cleaned up and spun-off into it's own sub-wiki article.

"Are you using Nvidia? Do you not have an AMD card? Ok, if you're going to be a pain in the ass: Nvidia install instruction and tips."

>>108366910
I don't know why the greater Arch community has a bug about "archinstall" it works fine.

>But you don't understand your system an--

Frankly, if the Archinstall worked like Debian/et. al.'s GUI install, I'd just use that 9/10 of the time.

>>108367408
IDK if it's a "new" problem, but my ntfs3 "drivers" on Arch work fine in Linux. It's when I boot Win10 that Windows has a melty about the drive being touched and wants to "fix it" even though the drive itself is fine.

If you boot 10, it'll start to try to do a disk-check. You can let it happen but it'll keep trying that everytime you mount the ntfs drive.

You're better off ripping the band-aid off and not having ANY NTFS drives (or never mounting them unless an emergency) if you're going Linux.

I think it's an NTFS permissions issue where Linux's chmod is not the same as NTFS, but I can't be certain as that's all in-the-weeds for me when I can't simply care. I just need the drive to be mounted and working and I just know Windows gets big-mad when "its" drive is touched by Linux.

>>108367572
fdisk is older (IIRC) and the "standard" on UNIX-like systems since like forever.

But yeah, if there is a newer/easier program for Joe Sixpack and noobs, I'd just point them to those if it's included in the distro install files instead of this "standard" and tell them to learn fdisk in a vm or something.

>>108367337
I mean you can move the stuff back, use a thumb-drive or an external drive that is FAT/NTFS formatted, put it on those, wipe the drive and install Windows. Windows will whine about the "filesystem is corrupt" or whatever for those, but tell it to fuck off ("no, don't fix") and it'll mount/move things fine.

It's just a (not that) giant pain in the ass because MS wants to be a pain in the ass.

How is kernel 6.17 treating you guys?

>>108367746
>my ntfs3 "drivers" on Arch work fine in Linux
No it doesn't. It keeps marking the filesystem dirty. Either there's a persistent format error with that filesystem or the driver is fucking up. Try switching to ntfs-3g, backup and reformat if the issue persists. It's probably printing errors in journalctl, but idk how much that's worth.
>You're better off ripping the band-aid off and not having ANY NTFS drives
Works on all my computers since like 20 years ago.

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>>108361620
Yeah.

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>>108360614
quick sleep and resume worked yesterday.
however this morning waking up the pc, I had full artifacts again.

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I'm planning on making "the move" to Linux for one of my PCs. In the past I normally made separate partitions for / and /home. Well right now it has Windows and I already have a separate partition for the whole Windows install and the rest just for all the junk I download and games. Should I make this partition /home, or just have the installer install all of Linux, with / and /home, on the smaller partition I have Windows on?

>>108367796
>ntfs-3g,
But anon... Anonymous said... I AM on ntfs-3g.

>marking the filesystem dirty
I have no idea why it would, beyond the SSD failing (which it isn't).
>reformat
Why do that when I don't use the Windows 10 partition/boot that often? I'll just accept it's a minor annoyance, wipe the actual game drive that is NTFS in a month or two and "rip the band-aid off" and forget Windows unless I need it now and then for that SSD.

>>108367852
You mean to have wangblows and linux on the same drive? Don't.

>>108367852
You don't want Linux on the OS/Windows drive. Windows will complain and be a pain about it (corrupt the bootloader, which you can fix but why do that every MS update when you can just avoid that)

>Other drive has data on it
Shrink the drive and make that your /home, but get another drive (yeah, yeah, I know I know...) for Linux to take for it's "OS" drives (/) over putting it on the Windows (C:) drive.

>>108366848
>anything Linux touches that is NTFS has Windows freak out about it and say it's "corrupt" (it isn't)
This does not happen on my machine. I think something's wrong with yours.
Think, anon, how would Windows even know that Linux had touched the drive unless it did something it shouldn't? The most likely explanation is that the drive isn't being unmounted properly but idk figure it out, don't just blame ntfs. You shouldn't need to repair an fs unless you lose power or crash badly.

>>108367863
No lol, I'm getting rid of Windows entirely on this PC. I guess I didn't word that correctly.

>>108367865
>You don't want Linux on the OS/Windows drive.
See above. I'm assuming that changes things up.

>>108367886
Then do separate partitions for root and home. Might not make a difference now, but it will in a few years.

>>108367632
>For the bootloader they kinda just point you toward the huge article on boot loaders and tell you to figure it out from there
lol exactly
Absolutely the weirdest/hardest part is the hardware related booting voodoo, the rest of the installation is basically just
>put files to drive
>set password
>>108367790
Why would anyone use 6.17?
>>108367852
Don't do /home partition, do a generic one at an arbitrary mount point such as /mnt/whatever. Then host your $HOME at lets say /mnt/whatever/anon.
My reasoning is that you'll figure out more use cases for the said partition other than just home directory/directories. And when you do that you'll hate the fact the thing's mounted at /home.
>/usr/local
>/usr/src
>/var/lib/bluetooth
>/opt
All of those are something you could bind mount or link off the system partition for backing up purposes. Imagine Bluetooth pairings sitting at /home/bluetooth, silly huh?

>>108367886
>Windows
>Data drive

If I'm understanding you, you're asking if ~ should be put on the other drive, that's generally recommended.

>But it has data on it already
Back up anything important and wipe, IMO.

You can technically shrink the partition down to nothing (for the data drive, but given it's on Windows, it's an NTFS file system and I'm not 100% on if the installer for whatever Distro you're using would play nice and leave that alone for ext4 (it SHOULD but that isn't a guarantee).

Most installers will respect the partitions made/already on the drive, but you can't guarantee it.

>>108367853
ntfs3 and ntfs-3g are two different things

>>108366460
Then I guess I'll just keep using JDownloader.

>>108367898
That's what I've normally done at least.

>>108367901
Suppose that would be silly. But I forgot I'm going to have to reformat it and the other drive I have anyway.
I take you never separate the /home partition?

>>108367904
>Back up anything important and wipe, IMO.
It's all important to me. :^(
>it's an NTFS file system
Haha you said file system twice. :^) But fuck me I forgot I was going to reformat it to ext4 so now I do have to back it up somewhere before moving it back on. All 1.5TB of it. And the other separate drive I have. This is going to be a pain.

>>108365947
why reinstall?

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what kind of linux distribution should i install if just play games on my pc?
picrel are the kind of game i play, and also i have a r5 3600 and an rx9060xt (not sure if it matters), just want to know if my games will work since i don't know much about linux
i'm tired of windows so i thought about changing when i get my keyboard next since i don't have one right now
sorry if the questions are dumb

>>108363208
I've been thinking about this too.
However you can run Mipony with wine (or any other windows shit). It'll work fine.
I never wanted to use jdownloader and I just never used split direct downloads for games etc. Jdownloader always looked scummy but I guess it's okay.

>>108364210
This default mouse cursor shape is all fucking wrong. One of the most annoying things and it was the first thing what I noticed last year when I installed lunatix.
What the fuck are these guys blind? No golden ratio or anything it's just an ugly wedge what looks wrong. They should hire some graphic design student who isn't blind.

>>108368045
Luckily this can be replaced but imagine, why even bother having this sort of cursor as their default.

>>108368026
If it runs on linux, it will most likely run on whatever distro as long as you get the right drivers. AMD isn't finicky like njudea so you're fine on that front.
Check for each of those games if they run natively on linux, if they do, you're golden. If they don't, check protondb, if they work via that, you're good.

>>108368045
>They should hire some graphic design student
hell no

>>108368026
Any distro should work, maybe with newer mesa drivers like Fedora considering your card is pretty new. You can try one of the "gamer" ones like Nobara/Bazzite or CachyOS, but I personally prefer boring shit like Debian.
Also like the other anon said check ProtonDB, most games should generally work but might need some extra things or tweaks. Also look at Are We Anti Cheat Yet? If you play games with anticheat. AFAIK out of those BFV won't run because of that.
VR may or may not be a crapshoot, I haven't messed around with it myself.

>>108366882
if you feel overwhelmed by the btrfs wiki article it's a sign that tries to tell you to not use btrfs

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Using Gentoo and hopping desktops here, currently on KDE Plasma. Should I disable the GTK use flag globally? What image editor should I use instead of GIMP when my use case is mainly cropping pics and saving them as JPEG with higher compression values?

>>108367971
>I take you never separate the /home partition?
Yeah. Did it once and then I realised I wanted to host VM images and Bitcoin ledger at that big partition.
/home makes a lot more sense when you have loads of users but I'm assuming we are just single using here.

>>108368201
Disabling GTK globally will still probably bite you in the ass at some point so I'd advise against it.
Also you can always just use Gwenview to crop pictures and change the quality via Save As.

>>108368201
>>108368224
You can just:

spectacle --edit-existing <IMG>

Which opens up the image annotator. Much more lightweight than the pig that is Gwenview.

>>108366386
>>108364690
For Accessibility. You can turn it off if you don't like it. The idea is if you can't find the cursor you can just shake the mouse and then instantly see where it is.

>>108368053
Because some people think it looks good. I quite like it although I change it to the light cursor instead.

Design is rather opinionated. Some people would say the default Windows cursor looks good even though it's very plain and boring.

>>108368026
Seconding Debian as this anon >>108368146 says. I play a few of the games you have shown off with absolutely no worries at all. If Debian is too difficult check out Fedora or something like that - the games will work on any distro either natively or via Proton/Wine. Shit I play a few of those games on my SteamDeck with no worries man, she'll be right! Have fun with the new OS.

>>108368030
I see, thanks

>>108368026
Bazzite. Avoid Debian, it's not for beginners and it's primarily not even a distro aimed at desktop users.

>>108368416
where would you even activate something like this outside of a DE?

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Is it worth sticking with Silverblue? Being able to revert to a clean system seems nice but I'm not sure if the tradeoffs are worth it. Does anyone use this?

>>108368453
No and no

>>108368453
>worth
Yes, but it's better to use Bluefin instead.
>Does anyone use this
Yes.

>>108368115
>>108368146
>>108368428
>>108368442
thank you a lot anons, i saved all of your posts, i will look more into it and make a choice.

Is there a way to make distrohopping painless? There's some I want to try but would like if I didn't have to setup everything every time.

>>108368790
Try PikaOS, and get back to me by next week. Because I want to try it as well and I will be doing that next week. :^)

>>108368792
Install them within VMs and just play about in them for a bit?

>>108368814
Tried that before and it doesn't really work out for me. I'll just go straight back to the hostOS and forget it's there instead of trying to daily drive it to figure out the growing pains. That and you'll find different issues between VM and bare metal, or at least in my experience.

>>108368827
Personally I distrohopped a lot until I finally tried out Arch. Felt the most just werks out of every distro I tried.

>>108368832
Yeah I've used Arch distros before and was fine with them. I thought about using CachyOS but the contrarian in me doesn't wanna use the popular thing.
Now if you mean pure Arch, I don't really feel like bothering with that install.

>>108368900
I mean you can always just install basically vanilla Arch via EndeavourOS.

>>108368909
You can?

>>108368926
That's the whole point of the distro really. Its main additions are a repo that includes some pre-built popular AUR programs like paru/yay and some "welcome" programs and such.

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>>108368792
Posted billion times: partition properly
>EFI (if an EFI PC)
>(small) partition for distribution A
>(small) partition for distribution B
>rest of the drive as shared space, mounted at an arbitrary location
That way you don't even need installers after your first install as you can always use your running system for bootstrapping another distribution to the vacant partition.
>>108368386
Interesting idea but I'm I supposed to fire that up from le terminals?
>>108368224
Right. The only thing that really bugged me was Transmission having a GTK client along with the Qt one -> did a per-package USE change.

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Mint noob issue incoming. I have this setting enabled, but the applet still reduces the buttons to just icons every once in a while, with no rhyme or reason, forcing me to disable and re-enable this setting to get them back to size.
I've been told that the non-grouped Window List doesn't do this, but it also doesn't allow app pinning, so I can't use that instead.

>>108361612
do gaming oriented builds benefit from frequent kernel updates? does it matter if you update hardware once every 10 years?

>>108369236
maybe
https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-619-amdgpu-radeon

>>108369412
how are kernel updates handled by fixed releases compared to rolling releases? am I supposed to wait for a major version update or is the package manager going to push kernel updates regardless?

>>108369427
depends on your distro. like, ubuntu ships newer kernels if you want.

my bro lives in a different city, if i want to play PPSSPP with him over my LAN, would setting him up with a VPN connection onto my router or a server work?

>>108369445
so I can totally use something like fedora and still benefit from kernel updates without using something like arch

>>108369496
You could use something like ZeroTier or Hamachi/Haguichi.

>>108369581
ok, I was more wondering if I have the concept right, i.e. would he be able to play on my LAN if he connects me to by VPN. I was probably going to set something up with tailscale or wireguard, just whatever simple thing works.

how do i change the colour and font of brave's clock?

>>108369590
Yes you have it right. You could also use Tailscale as your local VPN and use the created IP as the host IP in PPSPP to connect to. Brother just needs to be invited into your Tailscale account.

>>108369570
I dunno about Fedora's kernel updates.
Also, besides kernel, mesa stack would be important, and that's just like the graphics stack.

>>108369590
>would he be able to play on my LAN
that depends on what you mean by LAN. LAN does have protocols that wouldn't work with a simple VPN like wireguard, but anything based on IP should be fine.

>>108369644
just want to play tekken psp if that's possible

>>108369647
I don't know how your emulator does networking so can't say for sure. In worst case, you need something like mentioned in >>108369581

>>108368416
>For Accessibility
You don't understand. You can make the cursor as big as your screen. If you cannot see a cursor the size of the screen you should really not be able to use a computer in the first place. You're blind from stroking it too much.

I still can't believe I got away with finding a good middle ground between traditional and atomic distro

>>108370040
snapshotting regular distros?

>>108370055
Snapshotting regular distros with atomic updates
I didn't think it would work as well as it does, if only I could do this everywhere

>>108369570
Yes. Fedora keeps up with the kernel and only slightly lags behind rolling release distros. Right now it's only one minor version number behind the latest. They show up when you update just like packages.
Mesa drivers are slower. If you don't have the newest hardware this doesn't really matter. If you want the absolute newest you have to use a copr repo. It's probably better to just use Bazzite in that case.

>>108370082
I am planning to get a 9070 xt for my next build. Does that count as cutting edge still?

>>108370101
Should be pretty well supported in most distros now but newer drivers are always better.

this isn't something that I want but I'm curious if it exists. Is there a desktop linux distro (that more than 10 people actually use) which has all of these attributes?
>point release
>atomic
>no systemd
>(optional) gnome by default

>>108370253
There are no atomic distros that follow a point release pattern

>>108370273
I guess that probably would be kind of pointless, thinking about it.
What about the other three things?

>>108370288
There's none without Systemd as far as I know but you could make your own.

I've thought about trying to adapt OSTree to work with OpenRC. OSTree requires special setup in the initramfs to boot into the right system setup right. They only do that for Systemd at the moment.
https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/adapting-existing/#booting-and-initramfs-technology

You could make your own immutable system simply with something like Squashfs though. I believe Manjaro's immutable system works like that (of course that's Systemd because the OpenRC version of Manjaro is long since abandoned)

try netbsd

>>108370349
no native steam package me no want but maybe on a crusty old laptop

>>108370349
Did netbsd ever finish their Wayland port?

>>108370530
work-in-progress

if I start any flatpak game (heroic launcher) before turning my controller on, it's not detected. I have to relaunch everything

wat do?

>>108370812
turn on your controller before starting your game.

>>108370812
have you tested this outside of flatpak?
i'm fairly certain this is a game issue and not wine or whatever issue. some games just detect that shit on startup and if you unplug it or whatever, tough titties.
also wine wayland might help.

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Would you rather have:
a) A distro which is free as in freedom
b) A distro which means you are a beta tester for a large corporation

>>108371014
>b) A distro which means you are a beta tester for a large corporation
To be fair if you want to attack fedora outside of it being for profit and it's name, you should mention that fedora really isn't meant to be for personal use but for corporate use.

>>108361612
use gentoo faggots

>>108361612
>"Arch just works!"
auto-installers and the wiki have both been the greatest gift and the greatest curse for the Arch community, and I say that as someone who loves Arch, but it should have never been make accessible to "the wider audience"

>>108361612
best linux distros for running ai in a budget conscious way?
I'm looking for the most stripped down, smallest (in terms of storage used), and most efficient distros at idle?

>>108371156
computers exist ostensibly for the sake of automating repetitive processes. it's a linux distro, not your favorite band, get over it.

>>108371168
Alpine.

>>108362498
as someone who used cli for years and slowly learned majority of stuff and i mean really understood it not just copy paste:
the arch wiki is super. really really good.

>>108364210
I used to really dislike it. Generally, all those soft and bloblike cursors look like shit. However, once I installed KDE it kinda just fit with the style. I still replaced it because the hand is attrocious and the random pink and cyan accents are too gay for me, but it isn't nearly as bad as I once thought it was

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Finally tealdeer/tldr is working again. Thanks Debian 13.4.

>>108371186
I don't know how to reply to this because there is absolutely no substance in this post.

>>108371014
debian and fedora are the same in terms of freedom.

>>108371293
isn't tealdeer a youbuter?

>>108371306
>fedora is free
programatically yes, systematically no.

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Copilot is weirdly exited about CAKE.

Any use case for 2 GPUs (1 AMD, 1 Nvidia, both dedicated) on linux?

>>108363000
Arch linux has the best documentation of any single piece of software i have ever seen, its one of the main selling points of the distro, and i use it even when i am on other OSes
Anyway i think mental outlaw made a step by step on the arch install but i dont remember

>>108371308
Holy shit that guy's still alive? I haven't watched him in like 8 years.

>>108371344
you want to be a really weird person

Whats a good beginner friendly DE nowadays?
Ive been on autistic WMs for so long i dont even know what i would recomend, is xfce good?

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>>108371342

>>108371360
>is xfce good?
nope

>>108371374
Aww :(
I like the little mouse on it

>>108371382
He's a Gnome shill. Xfce is very comfy and good on memory.

>>108371382
stupid rat got a cinnamon glow up

>>108371397
How does it compare to cinnamon? I was on that before on stock mint and it seemed very buggy

>>108371410
I don't like Cinnamon. Xfce is stable but it looks a bit bland in stock configuration. It's very easy to layout the panel the way you want. Just test the Xfce version of Debian on distrosea.

>>108371397
Xfce, gnome, plasma are basically equivalent in terms of resource usage, I wouldn't choose any one over the rest because of that criterion.

>>108371360
It's ok as long as you don't use a high dpi monitor. It lacked working scaling as of mid 2025.

>>108371342
What sort of latency advantage are we talking about? I can't imagine it being more than 1ms.

>>108371436
Latency under load because CAKE does per-host flow fairness so you can't have a single elephant flow monopolising the connection.

>>108371423
No...Xfce is like 400mb. Gnome is 1gb+.

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>>108371448
I run gnome on a device with 3GB of RAM. Here it is after I closed the browser.

>>108371446
Also for WiFi specifically, it can theoretically take this a step further and enforce airtime fairness, etc, so it's not just at the network layer but below that in the PHY although I think this sort of thing is just a pipe dream at the moment.

I'm mounting a bunch of cloud drives via rclone. What's the best practices when it comes to mounting those as far as mount point is concerned? I'm torn between putting them on /dev or /mnt, probably doesn't matter but I wanna keep it neat and clean.
>>108371293
Finally.

>>108371553
/mnt or /media

>>108368026
Another vote for Bazzite here.
As other anons said, any distro will work fine, given that you tweak and customize them correctly. Bazzite takes that out the question and already does it for you ootb. If you ONLY want to play games, Bazzite is the easiest most straight forward distro there is.

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Autism

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>>108371658

>>108370031
Yes, you can but that's impractical. Most people don't bother changing the size of the cursor because it's fine most of the time.

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Stop recommending Debian for beginners. Slow distros are for people who know what they're doing, it's basically a given that they will want to install something, Debian 10y late repos won't have it and they will do something retarded they saw on github and break their system.

>>108371658
>>108371672
kek

>>108371756
>something retarded they saw on github
build external shit from source with gnu/stow or checkinstall in /opt, use python venv, and nothing bad should happen
skill issue desu

>>108371553
how can you use rclone and not know /dev is in 99% normie usecases automatically populated by kernel, udev and such, without user intervention? wtf anon?

>>108371835
A newcomer will not know about symlink management with stow and venv, it is skill issue, but as a newfag that's expected. At least, if the intention is to help, point towards the correct direction instead of sabotaging, a lot of people are already doing the latter anyways.

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>>108371845
Maybe rclone isn't as advanced as you think, anon.

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>>108368966
I asked the exact same question last thread (and got the same response that one kind anon posted at you), and the answer is no, you can create a copy of the existing Spectacle shortcut in the menu editor with the --edit-existing flag (pic related) and then reference that copy in the file associations config tool, which will allow you to either add it to the "open with" context menu item permanently, or make it the default program.

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>>108371900
pic related again

>>108371354
no idea, I just saw tealdeer and tldr together and it just unlocked memories of me watching him way back in the day lol.

reinstalled arch on one of my machines, I usually go for a minimal tiling WM setup, normally I just install sway and mpv and intel-media-driver and the rest of the shit I need gets pulled in, but apparently pipewire didn't get autoinstalled like it did last time (I checked my previous history file).
What should pull it in?

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>install steam
>receive a message while AFK
>steam tray icon doesn't change to let me know about it
>look up the problem
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/882965239655674529/
>still unfixed after 14 years
why is linux like this

>>108370349
I already use it on a laptop.

>>108371658
There is nothing dandified about dnf.

>>108371014
Debian is the belief that pretending you don't live in the house RedHat built somehow makes you more free.

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>>108372255
>why is linux like this

>>108372363
As someone who actually used Yellow Dog,
zoomZOOOOOM

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>nixOS
>zfs
>erase your darlings

>>108372457
If its annoying and disturbing enough, I'd recommend running steam through WINE and that could potentially fix the problem, but yeah Linux works off of people donating their time and/or money to dev the OSes so you're gonna get some rough sections here or there.
And hey, if it gets annoying enough, you could just spend the next 5 to 10 years learning scripts, programming, and how the OS works to then implement your own fix, but that's honestly an unhinged and impractical thing to expect from people who are having this problem.

>>108372492
That's not what the post says retard.

>desktop linux newfag
>run arch-update on cachyos
>computer freezes during it for some reason
>reboot, shit fails to boot and drops me in the emergency shell, says it can't mount /boot
>whatever
>reboot again and select the previous snapshot, system boots up and i can fix the issue then retry
>update works this time
linux has become better at resilience hasn't it

>>108372572
People might shit on Cachy for being a meme gamer distro (which it really isn't, it's just for performance autists in general), but the fact it sets up snapper for you ootb and lets you boot into them from limine is why it makes arch a lot more palatable to normies.

>>108372519
You didn't read that post did you?

>>108372572
Sometimes you just have to shit the bed to remind the user what your capable of, then have them clean up the mess and then gaslight them into thinking it never happened in the first place.

>>108372572
snapper/btrfs is breaking your system when creating the update snapshot, go with ext4 and stop using that meme fs

>>108372681
adding to this
the issue is not arch/cachy, snapper+btrfs system wrecking shenanigans also happen on openSUSE TW which is the defacto standard implementation

Is it possible to dualboot FreeBSD and Linux from a ZFS zpool with each OS being in its own dataset?

does anyone here use Steam on Arch and does it work okay?
I don't really need it other than to set up my Switch Pro which apparently it is good at.
I already have Heroic Launcher which works fine.
Unless there's another way to set up gamepads in Linux which I missed.

>>108372681
>ext4 user blames the tool
wow never seen this before

>>108370812
This is usually a game issue. I've seen this happen a lot of times before, even on Windows itself. Some games only fetch input devices on startup.

>>108371658
>names are retarded
Yeah, no shit.

>>108371756
>Stop recommending Debian for beginners.
I still don't understand why some people do this. Might as well recommend Arch or EndeavourOS at that point.

>>108372844
>does anyone here use Steam on Arch and does it work okay?
Anon, 20% of people using Steam on a desktop Linux distro use Arch.
>set up my Switch Pro
The first one or the 2nd one? For the 1st one you don't need Steam at all. It's detected by Linux out of the box and can be used outside of Steam.
>set up gamepads
KDE has a built in Game Controller config screen, but I've personally never used it. I usually set up game controllers inside emulators or games themselves, assuming I have to.

>>108371756
>>108373190
>wah wah debian is old and for servers and has 1000 year old packages stop using debian distros
Genuinely fuck off, most people who use linux on their desktops have mint and that's debian
>b-but muh ubuntu!
Also debian
Only autists who care about bleeding edge instability or who got gaymer shit like cachy os and steam use arch, and cachy only gets away with it because it has braindead rollback and package manager tools out of the box

>>108373235
>wah wah debian is old and for servers and has 1000 year old packages stop using debian distros
This but unironically

>>108373235
>mint is debian
Sure thing retard, and every Linux distro is Linux From Scratch. Might as well tell everyone to make their own distro at this point.

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>>108373235
>most people who use linux on their desktops have mint and that's debian
>and that's debian

>>108373263
Every Linux is just an android mobile os in disguise.

>>108373337
that's why i just use the mobile DE

>>108373337
Android is LFS too

>>108373384
LFS standing for Legal Ferret Software, of course.

>>108373428
No, it's Linux Fucking Sucks.

>>108373337
Android is not Linux

>>108373583
Especially not when Google wants to basically turn it into iOS in September.

>>108373595
tough titties when i buy a new motoral phone with graphene preinstalled

>>108362072
>the launcher eats 4GB RAM
How do you measure this?

>>108373603
Graphene/Lineage might get a fair bump in use when this shit starts to really set sail. Motorola phones I've also found to be ones with the least bullshit in them besides Pixel phones.

>>108373615
Pixel isn't Pixel any more after the spinoff. Idek who those guys think their customers are.

>>108373615
I'm pretty sure it's just Samsung and Xiaomi who bloat their phones. I've bought a bunch of small-brand chink phones and they're usually completely barren of bloatware. At most they have a battery management app and if they're rugged phones they have a "toolbox" app.
Meanwhile Samsung devices always have at least 100 apps I need to purge through a debloater, and another 50 I can't purge without bricking something in the system or without them auto-reinstalling a second later. You can't even disable their gaming app, adb throws an error when you try to do it.

But I don't think Graphene or Lineage (which itself is irrelevant nowadays) will get a bump in use. The general population doesn't care since they exclusively install apps through Play Store. The supermajority of users won't be affected by any of this.

>>108373583
Yes anon, that was the joke...

>>108373650
It always felt like to me that people went with Android phones because sideloading apps was so easy, but I guess now it's literally just because they'll be cheaper then iPhones and that's it. Though I have heard that you can still sideload "unverified" apps but -only- through ADB.

>>108373650
>ut I don't think Graphene or Lineage (which itself is irrelevant nowadays)
I don't think it will be irrelevant but I do think that you might see people swing back to "dumb phones" again or maybe even going phoneless. Only time I ever think "Thank God I have my phone" is when I'm logging calories, logging my weight, or I'm lost and I need Maps.
Outside of that it's useless, the only real thing I'll find it hard to replace is Maps.

Is there any good reason to choose OpenSUSE over Fedora, or Fedora over OpenSUSE? Or should I just flip a coin and fuck it?

>>108361612
arch or cachy?

>>108373758
It's the same thing, Cachy just has a tweaked kernel for performance you may not even notice

>>108373774
oh. like what?

>>108373741
i don't trust opensuse because suse keeps getting sold off.
fedora is stable.

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Newfag here, is this a sensible partition layout/FS choice?
Planning on installing CachyOS (no Windows) on a dedicated laptop.

>>108373859
yes very sensible if you plan to use compression on btrfs
be wary though that flatpaks can take huge amounts of space and you either need to symlink the flatpak dir to your home partition or increase the size of root if you're planning on installing lots of flatpaks

>>108373741
SUSE is just RedHat but not American. That's all they need to be for their government contracts, but it doesn't make a very good basis for funding big development projects or being a big hobby distro because most people don't care.

>>108373877
Would 160 GiB be enough for root? In your experience, how much would be best?

>>108373707
Power users do love side loading, but most people go for Android because it's cheaper. Most people's budget for a phone is $100-$250 because people aren't doing anything advanced with it. They just want to use it as a communication device, take photos which aren't blurry and maybe read/watch news and play music. A $150 phone can do this perfectly fine, which is why Android is as popular as it is. iPhone's popularity mainly comes from it being a powerful brand, rather than a product people actually need.

>>108373711
>people swing back to "dumb phones" again or maybe even going phoneless.
Not going to happen. Many people nowadays don't even own a PC/laptop. Their smartphone is their PC. That's why the 6.7in display size is so popular. People do everything from web browsing and gaming to doing business and banking on their phone.

>>108373741
Fedora is 2x-3x more popular.

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>>108373583
Why do people say this? Android is literally Linux. It's just not glibc+systemd+coreutils+GNOME/KDE+Linux.

>>108373903
>Not going to happen. Many people nowadays don't even own a PC/laptop. Their smartphone is their PC. That's why the 6.7in display size is so popular. People do everything from web browsing and gaming to doing business and banking on their phone.
Perhaps but I've also seen people buying typewriters and larp like they are living in the 1940s to also save money so maybe it won't be the most popular way to go but I think because AI ballooned the cost of computers and the slow economic spiraling of many nations due to falling birthrates, I think you'll see people who start adopting older technology to get by.
Think Cowboy Bebop but more gay.

>>108373903
>People do everything from web browsing and gaming to doing business and banking on their phone.
As someone who's older I can't imagine doing this. Crazy stuff.
Also it's crazy people still buy Samsung phones when they're one of the most bloaty expensive Android devices you can buy.

>>108373949
Because it has new kernel APIs which will never be part of mainline. It's a hard fork of Linux, the kernel.

>>108373949
Android uses the Linux kernel but its so modified that many people don't consider it Linux anymore, much like Apple.
It's Linux in the use of the kernel but it isn't Linux in its philosophy and that's basically why you see people get confused. Don't mix up Linux (the computer philosophy) with Linux (the actual physical implementation)

>>108373337
This is way more true than many people would like to admit, especially because there are distros like Ubuntu now that have touch functions, why? I don't know seems like a cool project, but maybe I'm just an old man that thinks its weird to touch your computer screen.

>>108373899
Look, if you enable compression and you don't install any flatpaks then your fresh cachyos install will take ~10 GB assuming you installed KDE, if you install something lighter it will take even less.
So that's 110 GB that remains available to you on root, with compression. Unless you install a shitton of flatpaks then it's fine.

>>108373758
Cachy for pre configured fish shell, backup servers for popular AUR packages and one-click full disk encryption

>>108373859
>btrfs
don't run snapshot creation on updates or enjoy when it bricks pacman and your system in the process

>>108373951
>I think you'll see people who start adopting older technology to get by.
This already exists, it's called being poor. You're simply becoming poorer.

>>108373984
Why would snapshots brick pacman before an update?

>>108373988
Can you buy my a typewriter plz?

Are there any advantages to using regular Debian over distros like LMDE or MX? I know they have their toolkits but I'm wondering whether I need all that already bundled, instead of just setting things up as I require them.

>>108373741
opensuse can have sync issues with packman codecs while fedora doesn't because it's not as bleeding edge. better yet though, sidestep the codec problems entirely with arch

>>108373741
>>108374059
>suse mentioned
obligatory...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLdexZlVkAY

>>108373982
Thanks Anon!

>>108362143
Thank god aur exists.

>>108373859
Don't split partitions on a small disk. Just make /boot and a big btrfs for everything. Cachy will put /home into its own subvolume for you, but btrfs is flexible so you don't have to worry about splitting the space. Btrfs will also be helpful for making the most of your space with compression.
The only reason to pick ext4 is if you really care about your torrents running at maximum speed but how much are you going to download onto that tiny disk anyway?

>>108361612
Is tiling better for people with adhd? I'm afraid to use it because its apparently terminal heavy, or at least sway is, and I'm afraid to start using it without a retard guide hand holding me.

>>108373859
>/boot
You mean /efi?
>4GB
1GB would be something in the real world range. What you usually see is 200-500MB.
>>108374748
>The only reason to pick ext4 is if you really care about your torrents running at maximum speed
>maximum speed
Why pick EXT4 when F2FS exists?
>>108374036
>Are there any advantages to using regular Debian over distros like LMDE or MX?
LMDE *is* Debian. You got the question backwards.
>>108373899
IMO 50GB is plenty.

>>108374836
CachyOS defaults to 4gb because it keeps a bunch of old kernel versions on /boot to go with snapshots. Especially with nvidia it can use a lot of space. My /boot is using 1.8gb right now with 50 snapshots.

>>108373190
How are you setting it (Steam) up on Arch?

>The first one or the 2nd one? For the 1st one you don't need Steam at all. It's detected by Linux out of the box and can be used outside of Steam.
It's a PDP Wireless one. Not sure if that helps. I think it was semi-official.

>>108374884
>it keeps a bunch of old kernel versions
Kernels with their initramfs images I assume. Distro kernel images themselves aren't that big as everything's as modules.
>bunch
10? 100?
>Especially with nvidia it can use a lot of space
They stick Nvidia drivers inside initramfs huh? That's retarded.

>>108373615
already moved my 2 pixels to graphene, jewgle gave me the additional motivation I needed but I was going to do it anyway.

>>108373758
arch because we have no real determination about how long cachy and its repos will be around.
spinoff/downstream distros have an absolutely shit record in this regard.

>>108375021
if cachyos dies which is highly, unlikely given how many people and sponsors are involved, you can just change the repos to the arch repos and install a different kernel. theres no harm in messing around with all the stuff cachy offers

>>108375035
it's not highly unlikely. what's likely is the improvements in cachy will eventually get rolled back into arch, making cachy redundant and unnecessary and no longer requiring support.
who is still around out of the many ubuntu/debian/fedora spinoffs lol

>this obsession of being pro or anti catchyos
I don't get it...

>>108375185
>ubuntu spins
besides mint, they are a mess and lack polish or use very old or antiquated packages
>debian spins
ubuntu is actually very polished and I've never tried debian so I can't really comment if I'm being honest, but unlike Arch which doesn't seem to try to convince people to try it, debian users seem to spend a lot of time trying to convince people to use debian, no offense debianbros.
>fedora
I fundamentally don't understand why people use fedora at all but I've never used it either. I know that fedora does a lot of company contracting for computers and that their consumer builds are secondary and usually updated last , but whatever.

>want to rice my desktop
>don't have any ideas that really inspire me
>just sit there and stare at the screen like a retard
I'm fucking hopeless...

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>new to linux
>try to download a desktop music visualizer (glava)
>turns out you need to compile it on your own
>ok...?
>follow the instructions in the guthub page
>the build system throws compiling errors and I need to watch indian youtube videos to learn how to fix them
Why is linux like this? Who thinks this is sane? And people then wonder why normal people prefer windows.

>>108375227
Great so I managed to install it after a lot of pain, but now I have no fucking idea how to configure it to look decent, because the default looks terrible and the config file uses its own randomshitretarded custom scripting language.
Two hurrays for linux!!!

>>108375235
youtube is your friend....

>>108375227
glava is gay as fuck, get some milkdrop presets and a player that supports projectM (strawberry, qmmp) or just standalone projectM but then you have to fuck around with the settings to get it working

>>108375219
Take a look at the people in the desktop thread >>108358243 though be careful that thread is quite gay
>>108375227
Bro... you should not be compiling shit from source because whatever you compile is not going to be managed by your package manager, unless you know what you're doing (you're not) then you should stop and look for a different software that has a binary build
also what are you using? it says in the github there are packages for arch, nixos and opensuse

>>108375247
>though be careful that thread is quite gay
Now I'm scared... Gay in what way?

>>108374782
GNOME might work. It's designed to stay out of the way and look really clean.
>apparently terminal heavy
You can set up GUI programs for mostly everything in Sway, but you have to configure a lot to get there and that involves using the terminal.
>and I'm afraid to start using it without a retard guide hand holding me
The Debian and Arch wiki pages for Sway will get you into a working system but it's up to you to choose what programs you want and google a bunch to get them all working. The thing with window managers is that they're so minimal out of the box that it's up to you to decide everything. What file manager, GUI or TUI based? What bar, and what are you putting in the bar? Notifications? Sound and audio device control? Fucking brightness keys? None of this is decided for you so guides only go so far before you're just copying someone else's install.

Most of the work is editing the sway or chosen bar config, commenting out the original block for the thing in case you need to uncomment it back, adding whatever you found on google, reloading sway, troubleshooting if it doesn't work, repeat. Most of the time it's just one line and copy paste, but it's still going into nano/vim/whatever and digging into ~/.config, which is scary at first. The only real way to learn is to do it and break your config a bunch in the process.
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/Useful-add-ons-for-sway
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sway
https://wiki.debian.org/sway

>>108373903
I went for android because the only other choice is apple, and I don't want to go into the golden cage.

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>>108375242
NO IT'S NOT.
Only info on youtube about this software is 2 videos of indian retards explaining like idiots and configuring it like shit, with terrible taste, and in any case that's not at all a comprehensive guide.
And the software itself is super unnecessarily convoluted, ike, for instance, wtf is this?
>#define COLOR mix(#3366b2, #a0a0b2, clamp(d / 80, 0, 1))
I just want to pick a color what the shit is this?
>>108375245
Ehhh it's not the same thing, this is not a music player, I already have one, I just wanted a desktop widget to visualize the sound. I admit that ptojectM is cool as heck but yes, you need to also work around it manually and it's just a pain in the ass. As everything in linux. For fuck's sake.
>>108375247
>you should not be compiling shit from source because whatever you compile is not going to be managed by your package manager, unless you know what you're doing (you're not) then you should stop and look for a different software that has a binary build
Well too bad because I really want this software.
I'm using mint btw, after my fedora broke because of driver issues (three hurrays for linux!).

>>108375255
It's just few people who post their desktops over and over again and they blogpost about it, take a look and you will understand

>>108375275 (me)
something that surprises me about this thread is that no one is blaming the devs for this, like, there is NO excuse for making the end user compile the software and have to fix the code to get it to compile properly, and yet i'm the one getting the blame for wanting to download this??? you guys are retards too

>>108375287
i checked the github page and it says its available on arch btw (aur), nixos and opensuse

>>108374782
Not necessarily, the main difference is that these WMs dont have a gui for the settings and you have to go edit .config files manually. You can do this in a regular text editor

>>108375287
>blaming the devs
linux is open source, if there's a problem fix it yourself.
>i don't like the default ui
then use a different desktop environment. cinnamon isn't popular on linux and only really gets recommended to newbies because it looks like windows and it's stable. kde and gnome are the big boys.

>>108375292
altho the aur package comments suggest it also runs into build issues

>>108375275
>Well too bad because I really want this software.
Okay, then take some time to learn how build systems work and pay close attention to the commands you're typing
for example
>meson build --prefix /usr
the --prefix /usr means it will install it inside /usr, you should probably change that to some custom directory, something like ~/builddir to see what files are actually being installed to get an idea of what is going to be installed
>no one is blaming the devs for this
Most devs don't provide binaries actually, it's the job of distros like debian or arch to compile those packages into binaries and distribute them to you. I can compile it for you and package it as a .deb package but then you would have to trust my shady unsigned .deb package

>>108375292
aha
well i'm not downloading another OS only to download this, you retard
also, do you even know how to read? I managed to get it to work eventually by editing the code myself and compiling it manually
>>108375294
>linux is open source, if there's a problem fix it yourself
yeah, you say this, and then wonder why people prefer microslop shit

>>108375306
>well i'm not downloading another OS only to download this
Have you heard of distrobox? you can install an arch container then install that package in it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDt4O6UPRw

>>108375306
>yeah, you say this, and then wonder why people prefer microslop shit
it is a community project, if you don't like it, contribute in making it better or fuckoff.

>>108375306
>microslop shit
but that isn't supported by glava, how could they even live without it?

Anyway, you chose some obscure software and then you start rambling against the ecosystem when it was your fault for choosing that software to begin with. If you want things premade for you stick to your distro's repos.

>>108375298
>Most devs don't provide binaries actually, it's the job of distros like debian or arch to compile those packages into binaries and distribute them to you. I can compile it for you and package it as a .deb package but then you would have to trust my shady unsigned .deb package
Well thank you, you are kind, but it already works so there's no issue, I was only complaining about how unnecessarily difficult is to download shit on this OS. When I used windows it was a dream to just browse the web and download tons of little programs with no trouble at all. Just run the executable. As a linux newbie, I can see why linux is never becoming mainstream. It's also because of the reason you mentioned. Yeah, linux users depend too much on repos managed by lunatics. If it wasn't for valve, there would be no gaming in linutz, and therefore no reason at all to use linux as an end user.
>>108375315
yeah what about no?

>>108375322
Yeah this retarded mentality is the reason linux is condemned to be a nerd thing with no mainstream usage. No, I just want things to work as a user, give me that or i'll fuck off for real.
>>108375332
>you chose some obscure software and then you start rambling against the ecosystem when it was your fault for choosing that software to begin with
Not at all my fault, in other systems, like windows for instance, installing random obscure programs from the internet is easy and doesn't involve compiling shit and coding. The problem here is linux, not the user for wanting to have fun.
Also, no, I don't want to stick to distros's repos anyways, they are very lacking and by now they probably are all mantained by woke trannies that will deprectae a repo if the author is right wing anyways.

>>108375356
Why is it linux's fault that a random program doesnt work? Anyone can make a program and put in on github, i did that multible times.
>I dont want to stick to distro repos
They are only lacking in debian/fedora. Basically every sane person has moved to arch a long time ago and only schizophrenic boomers still use the other ones.
The aur is also user maintained if you dont trust distro maintainers (even though you just installed their os? Lol)

>>108375338
>it was a dream to just browse the web and download tons of little programs with no trouble at all
it is because linux distros are different, they use different libraries, with different versions and sometimes stored at different paths, so it is very difficult to know what the user has installed beforehand, so the easiest fix is to just provide the source code and let the compiler and the linker do the heavy lifting of determining what libraries to compile against
On windows it's different, everyone uses the same libraries so a compiled piece of software will be guaranteed to run on all windows machines using that same version of windows

>>108375403
Also the program in question hasnt gotten an update in 5 years. Is linux responsible that the maintainer died in a car accident or something?

>>108375356
>installing random obscure programs from the internet is easy and doesn't involve compiling shit and coding
linux distributions usually work like android. everything goes through one central repository and you're updated automatically. if the package isn't available you use flatpaks, snaps, appimages or compile it manually.

>>108375409
just delete whatever linux distro you have right now and just download android for your computer!

>>108375403
>Why is it linux's fault that a random program doesnt work?
I mean the point you are failing to see is that there's no unified way of installing shit reliably.
>>108375405
Mmm I guess this is a good point.
All in all I think this whole discussion is the reason why things like flatpak and appimages work.

>>108375405
>>108375431
Also forgot to mention but windows also includes a lot of legacy shit that ensures backward compatibility, like being able to run .exe files in XP SP3 compatibility mode and stuff like that. This is also part of the reason why windows is so bloated.

>>108375431
>work
exist*