GOTY Crimson Desert comes out in 5 days. Only good way to play will be on RX 9000 series GPUs with the FSR Redstone feature set.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3321460/Crimson_Desert/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0pxsi7FU9g [Open] [Open]>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAMEDual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500>CPUBudget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500FGaming: AMD X3DWorkstation: 9950X, 9900XAVOID Shittel>COOLERAIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX PanoramaDouble towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.>RAMGaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: NM790Mid range: SN7100Premium: SN850XFlagship: SN8100>GPUCrimson Desert 1080p Ultra: RX 9060 XT 8GBCrimson Desert 1440p Ultra: High Refresh Rate: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GBCrimson Desert 4K: RX 9070 XTALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b>PSUhttps://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2Prev: >>108361738
SHILL WARNINGNvidia shills working out of call centers in Mumbai have been spamming the thread that rdna 4 is EoL for days based off a one word reply tweet by a "leaker" with no further evidence.This spam has been debunked by an AMD employee themselvesReport and hide any of these posts for inciting brand wars and trolling
https://microsoft.github.io/DirectX-Specs/d3d/Raytracing2.html>So while Tier 2.0 requires all featuresAYYMDEAD POODNA 2/3/4 OUTDATED AND OBSOLETE EVEN BEFORE RELEASE, UNABLE TO SUPPORT DIRECTX RAY TRACING(DXR) 2.0ENJOY BUYING NEW GPUS, AYYMDEADPOORFAGS
If I play competitive multiplayer games is it worth getting a 9800x3d to pair with a mid tier 70 class gpu?
HELPI bought a used PC with the ASUS PRIME B550M-A WIFI II motherboard and I can't get it to connect to Wi-FiBIOS says Wi-Fi is enabled but it DOESN'T SHOW UP on Windows 10, downloading drivers from a different computer and trasfering with an USB doesn't do anything. Did I get scammed?
I used to be an amd fanboy but since I have seen nvidia promising 10000000x performance increase I just cant support amd anymore.sorry but 1000000000x??? I would be crazy to not jump ship. I hope team red will understand...
>>108365633> nVidia cards still catching on firemust be scary for them... wondering when that connector is going to go.>>108365783> windows windowing people againprobably already has a default driver installed or fucking you in some other way. check your device list and see what the driver is. (right click your computer, go to manage, go to device manager, go to display adapters, see what it is running.
Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo>Intel + Radeon = Schizo>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
>>108365783*correction (i'm dumb and cross posting in another thread) i meant go to network adapters and check for your wifi card in there.
>>108365783Also, before I forget, you may have downloaded the wrong drivers for your board. Go to ASUS website and find the right wifi adapter driver.
nicobro singlehandedly pushing me towards a 9060xt over a 5060ti
>>108365882
>Went from an x470 to an x870e-p.>Download speed on steam drastically increasedI don't know if I've just placeboed myself, but I swear I went from a max of 200mbps to over 600. I can download 100gb games in no time at all.
>>108365922I mean it probably wasn't the motherboard itself but everything else
>>108365633MAXXED ON COPIUMANOTHER MASSIVE DISAPPOINTMENT NEVER MISSES
>>108365948Yeah, I really don't know what exactly did it, but I'm in heaven. God I love building fancy new computers.
>>108365610>Didn't get the game for free because I bought a cpu a couple days too earlyNope. No sir I will not play your game.
>>108366011file a complaint with your tech overloards. they might give you the game if you install their ai powered app.
How much of a meme is DRAM on an SSD for games or a boot drive?
>>108366030you know that your system can have more than one ssd right? just get a small ssd with dram. maybe you already have one and use your new drive for games. windows is dogslow anyways.
>>108366037I'm aiming for one of those boards with a single slot
>>108366041new gen drives just use a bit of your ram.
>>108365922probably went from terrible realtek NIC to slightly-less-terrible realtek NIC
what case is that?
>>108365783did you plug in the antenna?
what are the chances this runs Monster Hunter Wilds at 4k 60fps without frame generation?
Ram prices have dropped a little bit on Amazon Canada. I was wondering if anyone happens to know if they will drop anymore anytime soon.
>>108365719there must be tons of tests on youtube to see whats setup the best for your game.
>>108366176I tend to use around 11k VRAM at 4k in WIlds
>>108366011Did you try asking vendor you bought it from to give you a code regardless? It's up to the vendor if they want to give you a code. It also might depend who you get with customer service.Now I'm not going to suggest you do things you find unsavory, but from what I heard most vendors won't refund the code, especially if you use it, if you decide to return the product for whatever reason.
https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/amd-600-series/x670-x870-resource-thread/m-p/1141814/highlight/true#M11653Safedisk said this one will be on official bios pages in the coming days.
>>108366352feels good to not be rog scum.
>>108366359k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJcf2UGCH1weveryone is finally turning on AMD
>>108366388I have Tech Jesus fatigue.
>>108366352so just support for the 9950x3d2oh boy
>>1083664642101 - 2103 also apparently "fix" the dying cpus issue with agesa 1.3.0.0a
>>108366417You don't enjoy somebody just whining all the time?
>>108366479Oh shit, is AMD finally starting to fix that?
>>108366532the rma rates were not even higher than average
>>108366532i guess?
>>108366176This thing is pretty underpowered. Is there a price for it yet? I think you're better off getting a used gaming laptop and just replacing anything that's a bit fucky about it
anyone with the KTC M27P6? 1.0.8 was finally released for US/EU monitors. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1rnxcib/ktc_m27p6_firmware_update_108/
>>108366176FUCK THE CUBE I WANT THE FUCKING CONTROLLER. FUCK 8BITDO FUCK SONY AND FUCK MICROSLOP. I WANT A GOOD CONTROLLER.
>>108366388Pretty sure he's given them shit before.
>>108366589me too. I've had this one long enough and the Steam Deck made me realize I miss having a right thumbstick.
>>108366576no, but if they can't get the 2TB version with the controller to <=$700 it won't do well.
>>108366030Important on SATA SSD, useful on PCIe 3.0 NVMe, nice to have on 4.0, can't hurt on 5.0.
>ai generated ram sticks are a thing nowthanks jewvidia
>no DXR 2.0 support for RDNA4 (allegedly)in your opinion, how likely is Vulkan to come to the rescue here?I'm guessing we're shafted because RDNA4 might lack some hardware-level stuff that RTX 40/50 come with but you never know
>>108366388they arent even pretending to try. they're putting in even less effort than intel does with battlemage
>>108366388
Buy a prebuilt. AMD is just as good as Nvidia. Avoid intlel cpus.
>>108365922Are you sure it wasn't upgrading to a pcie hard drive?
>>108366388Don't worry, us team red warriors will just buy the new GPU even though nobody else needs to do this to get new features
>>108366886>MetaThat's how you know this will be a nothingburger
>>108366388>fucked up just barely 1 minute inNot worth watching further.
>>108366814Why would AMD bother? It's pretty clear they can just drop support after a couple of years and people will still buy their shit.
I haven't upgraded for about 6 years. Are these kind of prices decent or are there better deals out there I don't know about? I just waited™ a bit too long.
>PNY 5080 $1400>msrp $999Should I go for it? I’m most likely never going to find a 5090 at or near msrp even IF they’re available
>>108367024Yeah, if you look at the prices per item you're usually buying the cpu and mobo while getting the ram for "free". The ram you get is usually a mediocre pair, but apparently the x3d chips can do pretty well with even mediocre ram. It's apparently Micocenter's loss leader too. I wouldn't doubt they saw the writing on the walls and bought a bunch of ram when it was low, so they're not really losing as much as you'd think.
>>108367062It will hurt but you might as well. Better late than never. I don't see things getting better until 2030. Things will only get worse, never ever the other way around. Remember that you only have one life to live. If you can afford it, get it. Be happy. Happinessmaxxing is the only real goal in life.
>>108367024Also Newegg had some comparative deals in January and early February, but now their deals are just kinda of meh. Still, it could be worth going through them if you don't want to make a drive to a Microcenter.
Sorry for stupid question but if I undervolted my GPU with MSI Afterburner, do I always need to turn it on for undervolting working?
>>108366949>even though nobody else needs to do this to get new featureslast i checked dlss fg isnt supported by rtx 1000/2000/3000 series cards and dlss mfg isnt supported by rtx 4000 series cards so lol lmao even
>>108367062why that over a 5070ti which you can probably get for around 1000? the difference is not worth 200$ let alone 400 lol
>>108367132If you restart your PC, yes. There might be an auto startup setting, I've never really looked.Probably also if you close the program for whatever reason. I'm not really sure on that one though. You might be able to apply the settings and then close it, but it's a pretty small program.
If I use gen4 nvme SSD on a gen 3 slot (so pcie 3 x4) I'm limited to 4GB/s since every lane is 500MB/s.In theory could I use a nvme to pcie 3 x16 adapter that could use all lanes to have the full speed of the gen 4 SSD?
Is this a good deal. How does the 9950x3d stack for gaming?
>>108367141dlss 4 works on older cards though. fsr4 really needs to work on rdna 2/3 it's embarassing they haven't officially ported it yet and there's no defending this.they are releasing new APUs with rdna 3 in them still.it doesn't matter that it runs worse, it needs to be supported by default.
>>108365610path tracing in cumson dicksuck? none because it's made by a mobile gacha devonly a cumbrained faggot would buy that game and play it on amd graphics cards
>>1083671581GB/s*
>>108367173if you have to ask you probably don't need a 9950. go for 9800 or 9850.
>>108367173there are no good deals make no mistake ram will NEVER be worth the faggot ass prices they are charging for it today never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never
>>108367184Middle looks best desu i felt the same on CP2077, PT makes it look too bright and shiny. Normal RT is good enough.
>>108367173It's pretty good, but you're overspending if you're just gonna play vidya. The 9950x3d is if you're also going to do workstation stuff. The 9800x3d or the 9850x3d is all you need for vidya.
>>108367205lol no it does not
>>108367149There are 5070ti cards that are as expensive as the PNY 5080 lol
so good PSU with 3x8pin to 12pin adapter is a better idea than using native 12pin-12pin because you get only one possible point of failure, right?
>>108367232Theres a 5070ti at best buy for $949 right now. Makes infinitely more sense than a 5080 for $1400
>>108367248surely the plug still works
>>108365610>Crimson Desertlooks slightly intredastingI'll consider playing it if no kernel-level DRM
>>108365610>Pearl abyss>creators of Black Desert>no character customization in Crimson Desert Just what were they thinking?>>108367290It has Denuvo apparently
>>108367307>no character customization>Denuvoboth excellent reasons to forget that game ever existedthanks anon
>>108367290its basically medieval just cause
All nviditroons are gonna rope when this game wins everything at the game awards. All this seethe because $600 9070 XT will be a better experience on it than their 3k 5090.
>>1083673359070xt wins by default since you don't have to use w*ndows.
>>108367268this is not what I'm asking here.If wire gets fucked you won't have to replace the PSU
>>108367343that's what I'm telling myself to cope right now, that the plan was always to ditch windows anyways
>>108367375
Unironically if you’re just gayming, do you really need more than 8 or 12gh of vram?I’ve seen youtubers play cyberpunk on an rx580 at low to medium settings, and it’s got me thinking why would I need something like a 5070ti or a 9070 when the 9060 or 5060 could work just fine?
>>108367463Nope its just fomo
>>108367248I always considered adapters to be less reliable.
>>108367463nope. 8GB is all you need. the only reason to have 16GB is if you want to use ultra texture quality.Steam Deck has 8GB total RAM and can play almost everything that releases. the non-Linux supported DRM/anti-cheat is an issue before the VRAM.
>>108367463It just comes down to what settings you want. Do you mind lower settings? Then 8gb is fine, maybe even 12gb if you want to go a little higher. Want possibly do the highest? You'll want 16gb. Really just comes down to your wants.t. retired my 3070 that still worked perfectly well for a 5070ti just cause
>>108367248Someone with a 5090 Astral tested two different 12V-2x6 power cables (12pin both sides, 2x8pin PSU side and 12pin for GPU).The 12pin-12pin cable provided more even current distribution across 6 pins (other 6 are ground).But the main takeaway is you need to be spot on with the cable installation on both sides (fully inserted, do not bend the end of the cables sideways, leave some straight clearance before you bend it).The connector must be fully inserted, below is how Dell is dealing with it.https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/pc-building/dells-new-prebuilt-featuring-an-rtx-5070-ti-comes-with-bolted-on-12v-2x6-connector-even-large-oems-fear-the-16-pin-power-connector-meltdownshttps://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cards
>>108367588Wait, do I need to double check on my 5070ti connection? I thought it was only the 5090 burning down the pins.
>>108366388Like what choice i even have? 5070ti is +500€ over an 9070XTNot 50€, 500€ difference.But yeah, moving to linux with AMD is mandatory just so you can just slap FSR5 via mesa and optiscaler like nothing
>>108367639It's far less likely to happen, but there's been a few reports of 4080 connectors burning in the past.It has happened to a few 9070 XT Taichi & Nitro+ as well.Basically retards will be retards.
>>108367588hey that must have been my postspicrel for more information>top: 2x8-pin to 12v-2x6>best case current balancing after 30 minutes of replugging it>at 600w, still vdroops nearly 300mv and gets warm>bottom: 12v-2x6 to 12v-2x6>first plug in already nearly perfect>at 600w, vdroops only 120mv and stays cool>>108367639dont worry too much IMOnot many 5070ti's have melted so far since they pull so little powermy recommendation is to get an atx3.1 psu with the native cable, preferably not from MSI since theirs seem to unplug themselves over multiple thermal cycles
what are the best ARBG fans right now with a good software ecosystem? currently using the Lian li CL fans and while they are nice I dont feel like they are doing too well in terms of QC
>>108367661I see, I'll try to give it a check later just in case.>>108367672>my recommendation is to get an atx3.1 psu with the native cableThankfully mine did, one of Corsair's.
>>108367647you can use optiscaler on windows just fine. i like my 9070xt both on windows and on linux.
Niggas whine too much about PCIE devices and when I say PCIE devices I mean GPUs exclusively since apparently nobody here has NVME autism.
>9800x3d getting into the mid 90s when it compiles shadersIs this normal, or does my heatsink just suck?
>>108367725tjmax for that cpu is like 95°C. if you give it everything it needs (voltage, current and cooling) it is going to max it's temp to high it's max clocks. undervolting usually helps. you can also just lover the tjmax but it would result in lower all core scores prob.
>>108367731The monitoring software said it hit 97.4C. But I don't remember my 5900x ever having this problem even before I undervolted it. But it has the big Noctua heatsink, and the 9800x3d has some random Chinese heatsink I heard about and thought it looked decent enough. I might just undervolt it too.
>>108367740curve optimizer/ curve shaper is what you are looking for.
>>108367588I remember stories about connector wiggling out at PSU side.
>>108367745Is that through the bios or amd's companion software? I'll look into it though, thanks.
what exactly is 4th gen QD-OLED because sometimes I see a monitor and some will say it's 3rd gen and others will say its 4th gen and it's the same damn monitor what the hell is going on
>>108367758i only do it via the bios because it is operating system agnostic. the value is not mv btw. it's a % of smth or other. if you don't want to lose any perf you should do a benchmark run for single and mutli core after each step to see if the perf drops or not.
I currently have a 5800x3d and with everything going full retard on the used market I can sell my CPU, ram and mobo and buy a 9800x3d, 64gb ram and a decent board for just under 800 ausbucks out of pocket which is about what I spent on my am4 stuffWhy shouldn't I?
>>108367803AM4 is still going on pretty strong, and you know it works. You could build the AM5 machine and something go wrong.
>>108367767Okay I'm being bullshitted now fuck I hate monitors so much
>>108367724That's probably for the best. We only need so much tism around here.
>>108367829each gen gets brighter and more burn in resist. after two gens they change subpixel layout. 5th gen is the best.
>>108366176Not a chance, you need a 4090 or an XTX for 4k60 Wilds.
>>108367771All right, I'll check it out. Might undervolt it too still. Worked pretty well for my 5900x.
>>108367725they're designed to boost all the way up to 90 and then throttle. it's intentional. you can set lower limits in your BIOS if you're uncomfortable with it, try ECO mode for their preset.
>>108367847I do it with a 4070 right now though.
Heyo
>>108367829me too. where's my 4k ultrawide 120hz+ ips since tn is an abandoned tech?
>>108367939Is this something they did with the x3d chips or the AM5 chips? I don't really recall my 5900x just spiking to tjmax like that.
>>108367974I think it's just an AM5 thing.https://youtu.be/nRaJXZMOMPU
>>108367974It happens to the 5800x and 5800x3d too but not the 5700x. It's all about how aggressively amd defined the stock spec for those CPUs
>>108367988>>108367997Huh, good to know then. Thanks.
Is this worth getting if I don't want to deal with the DRAM inflation? Normally I wouldn't consider it, but it is on sale and I can pick it up at the Costco in-person.
>>108367974definitely a x3d thing. they are tuned to the max out of the box.
>>108367672this is a test of particular GPUs and particular PSUs but ATX3.1 =indeed claims to have better distribution.
>>1083680229900X is a dumb CPU nobody buys it that's why they stick it in every prebuilt
>>108367825nta but we have pretty good warranty laws if we buy new. triple protection from retailer warranty, manufacturer as well as general aus consumer laws
>>108367803https://www.techspot.com/review/3077-amd-ryzen-am4-5800x3d-5700x3d/
The new Windows release preview feels much snappier on my computer. I boot up my PC and I didn't even see the blue loading screen it just went straight to my desktop and all my apps loaded instantly.
ill be honest i am completely ASUS rog-pilledtheir entire ecosystem means i can turn my brain off and ive never had their parts not work so why wouldnt i buy them
>>108368070They make good motherboards
>>108368022yes its worth getting if you need a computer
>>108368049Apparently the umarts over there have ways of around these laws.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0g_YlG_Ul0
>>108368049I know what you mean but I'd rather not have a broken PC that needs to wait on lengthy RMA processes to get back to working if I don't have a good spare available.
>>108367100>>108367121Thanks.
>>108367672Thanks for the info, I've been thinking of getting a 5080, and the news about cables burning was making me scared, but looks like it's somewhat tolerable after all, though I still don't like the 12VHPWR connector, I wonder sometimes if doing an overclock on the 5080 is truly safe after all
>>108368202the cable-plug connection quality matters a lot. i feel more confident running 800W through the new cable/psu than running 600W on the older one.if you have no way to measure the current balance, staying under 300W would be safe while any amount higher is up to how well connected the cable is.
>>108368047it's a good CPU though, the 9900x3d is junk.
>>108368064lil' bro didn't turn off fake shut down.
>>108368103in your position i'd keep it, but know that you won't be upgrading until like 2030
>>108368238fast boot is off
>>108368229Interesting, since I'm going to buy a new PSU as well, knowing this will help.How well does the 12V-2x6 connector handles bending ? I usually try not to bend the cables too much for obvious reasons, but sometimes I can't place the cables without bending it a little bit, and it seems the 12V-2x6 does not handle that well and gets hot quite easily
>>108368314corsair's and the adapters included with my 4090/5090 are pretty stiff, hitting the glass side panel of my o11d evo while the seasonic one is pretty bendy and easily clears my case with nearly a centimeter of gap.
>>108368314there are PSUs with angled connectors.Answering your previous question, I overclocked my 5080 and it is stable with 300w constant consumption at 100% and 500w spikes
>>108365922Steam decompression is single threaded CPU (and/or memory?) bottleneckedMy 5800X3D is not enough to saturate 1Gb ISP to NVMe when downloading from steam.
>>108365783anon I have the same exact motherboardIf you use windows update it might try to install a driver for you but in my experience it never worksEither you download and install it manually from Asus manufacturer website for this motherboard, or use their Driverhub software
>>108367184I cant believe people were scammed into GAYTRACING so pajeets could into dynamic lighting as well.... it only cost you 50% of your fps and over 1K gpu.but atleast the newest of new thing is here, path tracing.fuck these marketing gimmick niggers.
>flagship case lineup from the silent case company>waste a ton of space and create a leaky as shit design by forcing you to use a fucking PSU extension cable and mounting bracket>leak a ton of noise because the PSU isn't flush or sealed against the back panel>don't change this for a decadeGerman autism strikes again
>>108368904>flagship casethere is no such a thing you donghead.flagship case lmao....>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE NEW FLAGSHIP HAMBURGER MCDONALDS IS RELEASING RIGHT NOW. I MUST CONSOOOM.>yo goyim buy this new flagship sportshoes from adidas>how about a 'flagship pumpkinlatte' for 12.99 to start your day like a champion?
Any 4080 super users in the thread? What's the latest stable driver? I'm still using 566.36.
>>108367184There's something wrong with ray tracing off. She literally looks like she has downs. She looks like Greta.
>>108368927566.36 if not 576.88
>>108368918Flagship means the case you design and manufacture to contain all the bells and whistles of your company, the reference design that is then cut down and compacted to fit smaller budgets, as with any product the flagship releases first and other product segments follow suit.The Dark Base 900 was a new series for the company with new tooling, which was followed up by the Silent and Pure cases of that generation which shrunk and cut down the general design while retaining some tooling.
>>108367184>560wwhat are the spikes look like? 1000w? No wonder shit melts
>>108368970spikes only trigger your psu's OCP at worst. they don't happen long enough to contribute to extra heat over the average power draw
>>1083689705090 spikes are ~650w
>>108368961bullshit. its a buzzword to lure retards into consumption and overpaymentusing the word flagship kinda works with gpus, cpus, phones, because there is a measurable performance gap and a generation's most powerful tech is kinda relevant. a 60bucks nzxt can do 95-100% of whatever the 'flagship 900 be quiet progoy' case can do for 500+.
>>108367184this looks so unimpressive, it's laughableand I'm supposed to buy a 5090 for that?
>>108369016no you're supposed to get a 5070 and run dlss ultra performance
>>108369029great, even worseI'll stick to playing Thief FMs which could run on a fucking toaster with my overpriced, garbage 3080Ti where the last good driver released almost a year agofuck modern GPUs in general, it's all so tiresome
>>108366176You're joking, right?
>>108367268>surely the plug still worksThe bigger problem is the melted plastic left in the GPU socket.
>>108365610>150gbShan't be playing
wtf is this 'muh helium from qatar' bullshit????these gooks just grabbing another opportunity to sell their 5bucks/stick production cost rams for 500.fuck you gooks. fucking spiritually jamboy fucks
>>108369231don't like it? start your own fab
>>108369231those micron gooks and ymtc gooks are in on the game too
>>108369231Know what else uses helium? High density HDDs.Not just in production, they are actually filled with helium.
>>108369281I filled your mom with my helium
>>108365610>Could Nearly Double GPU Performance in Some Workloads day 1 purchase for me if true
>>108369262you jamboy fucks going to be in real big trouble when the white man invents -the 3d printer- and starts priting reverse engineered pcb clones at home. your village will starve then. >>108369274issa damn cartell.
currently have 16gb ddr4should i get 32gb (4x8) for $75 or 64gb (2x32) for $150-$170?I've never had more than 16gb so idk if I'll ever need 64gb.
>>1083692942x32 should retain good 2nd hand market value for a long time so id go with those
>>108369291ayymd be like: muh 2xnjudea be like: muh 10000000xme be like: you all jewish and lyingand then there is intel, the drooling retarded jewish kid in the sandbox eating dried catdoodooI dont believe any marketing slop bullshit claim anymore. They all lie. >muh 1000000gorillion X performance increase (compared to the 8kbit moonlanding unit)
>>108369305me, i'm just waiting for the 4th coming of the 8800gtx after the 1080ti and 4090. hopefully the 10900xtx or rtx6090 will be it
>>108369302Makes sense.Idk when am6 will launch (and I've given up on upgrading to am5 because of the fucked up prices) so I'll go with the 64gb cause I'll be using it for 5 more years minimum...
>>108368070see>>108366359
>>108369309>8800gtx after the 1080ti and 4090.legendary blunt rotation. mfw I owned 2 out of those 3. I might get a used 4090 as a cope to have the bragging rights of owning the goat gpus, altough the 4090s claim is the weakest there and its more of a timing the market thing for early adopters. we will see hows its aging as its still only a young buck plus it had disgusting msrp. (doesnt matter it worths more now thats market faggotry and manipulation) I need a high vram gpu and I cant wait until the 6090. 4090 or 5090 my only options as its clear, super cards are not coming anytime soon.
>>108368944It's because devs have stopped doing any kind of shadow mapping so shadows are just not being cast at all. It even affects the RT since RE9 does not have RT Shadows either it only has RTGI. They barely add baked lighting beyond the minimum requirement. As a result you're getting these cracked out renders on raster.
Great news everyone, I think we're good. I have deduced the source of the smell to be the silicone grommets in this case, they harbor the same characteristic smell as the baking tray from my kitchen. So it turns out this case is pretty much new old stock after all, if those silicone pieces were outgassing so hard. I probably won't bother unscrewing much of anything then seeing as there are no cocoons or anything else undesirable inside from what I can see, the dust layer on the very bottom seems normal. I would like to get rid of it but fuck me, this case is so over engineered it would take me a few hours to get down there and wipe it.Time to peel off the still intact front film and build soon, hopefully.
>a dude sets the starting price of his used 5800x3d at $150>31 bids later, it's at $400MOTHERFUCKING AMD BRING THIS CPU BACK THESE PRICES ARE UNREAL I JUST WANNA PLAY SOME VIDEO GAMES MAN STOP FUCKING WITH THE ONLY THING THAT BRINGS ME JOY IN THIS HELLISH LIFE
>>108369422>September 2026 or February 2027>10th Anniversary Edition>PBO unlocked X3D-BE>limited run>$999
>>108369406I thought AMD had a version of path tracing?
>>108369422>building a computer for the first time in 15 years>see that the 5700x is perfect for my build>it's $140 up from a low of $71 half a year ago>settle with the 5600 for $101i wished pc's had a price ceiling for people who just want an average machine to do stuff and not have every part of the line scale to the price of the high-end due to shortages or whateveri'm not poor but i don't want to spend that much for a computer just to do video editing and play some esport games
>>108369406Is this why that nocoder faggot Threat Interactive guy acted like a woman who forgot her tampon about the whole thing?
>>108369422What do you have now?
>>108369498No, it still runs PT at 3-4fps in other titles. RE9 forces DLSS on as soon as PT is enabled and you cannot disable it.
>>108369422it's the worst time to be buying on ebay right now all scams or overpriced crapYou are better off trying to find a mexican that's selling his entire pc they never have a clue what to price them at so are easier to get a deal off
>>108369513>RE9 forces DLSS on as soon as PT is enabledmfg is a scam.
did u guys watch the coverage of project helix? I'm excited about it, I think it's going to be good and microslop might do something right this time, from what I noticed I think it's a PC that will have an xbox storefront + steam + epic and they will compete hard with steam probably taking a smaller cut to publish gamesthe ps6 will be somewhat weaker than it and it'll allow for steam games I assume, looking good for xbox
>>108365610>GOTY Crimson Desert comes out in 5 days>korean slop >goty
>>1083695125600g...
>>108369517>it's the worst time to be buying on ebayWhere else should I go to buy used parts? At least ebay guarantees your money back if the part you receive is not working
>>108369546amazon sales and be open to buying from other countries like the UK or even japan
>>108369563Some retard put tariffs on Japan. Ask how I know. I think UK is still ok.
>>108369539You can play indie games perfectly with that even on just the integrated graphics, I got 100% achievements on hades 2 last month
>>108369597oh right, that bullshit's still happeningactually, might be even worse with the oil situation
>>108369505>acted like a woman who forgot her tamponWhat does this mean?
Pulsar lost to OLEDNew update dropped, is pulsar back?
>>108369615I bought a $350 part and was charger almost $150 in tariff. I didn't know the US had a thing against Japan.
>>108369651you voted for this
>>108369651it doesn't.>enact tariff>will hurt both countries but president doesn't care>other country does care about wellbeing of economy, makes $backroom deal$ to lift tariff >tariff goes away
>>108369680Voting is an illusion of choice.
>>108369539Assuming your ram sticks are fine, you might be fine with the 5900x. It depends on what kind of performance enhancements you're looking for. Or you could continue to wait and see.
>>108369626You know women within breeding range get something called periods, right?
>>108369422KEKKfucking waitfagsmeanwhile in germoney (price includes 19% VAT)
>>108369776This is cheaper than a 5950X which has gone up to 1400 PLN.
>>108369422>>108369776285 euroshekels for a 7800x3d tray
>>108369406That's fine if it looks better. You can't really expect Devs to keep legacy for outdated technology forever. If the game has a card capable of raytracing in the minimum specs, you should expect that it will use raytracing for lighting.
140$ for a 5700X or a Verbatim 43888?
the 7800x3d that i was looking to buy next month is already $10, at least the tray is still really cheap, surely the price does not go to shit in 3 weeks
>>108369688i do recall he did the blanket tariffs and a bunch of world leaders individually called him to negotiate
>>108369965$10 more expensive*
don't worry, the next generation of AMD CPUs will go back to AM4
>>108369406this is one of the biggest copes, CP77 has everything you mentioned as it did not launch with pathtracing in mind and you can see the same thing happening, honestly you retards are not ready for whats coming, now that every game is launching with pahtracing people will finally realize how dogshit hardware and software lumen (fake RT) was
>>108369990both images are repulsivewhere are the path traced anime girls
>>108369979go back? AM4 never died they still release AM4 chips and motherboards
What is this bullshit? You basically can only run one SSD.
>>108367024thats pretty damn decent considering the madness thats is going on right now.x3d chad cpu32gb ddr5mid mobo which is more than enough for 99% of people
>>108370006exactly
>>108370008Welcome to AM5
>>108370019What do I have to run a threadripper to get a reasonable amount of lanes? No thank you. I'm keeping my 12900ks then.
buying a pc now is just retarded, wait 2 years, get amd zen 7 with rdna 5 which will be cheap as fuck because the goycattle will still be loving nvidia and enjoy pcgaming hardware that will be relevant for 7+ years when new console gen comes up.
>>108369635Yes, Pulsar was always meant to be used for 60fps locked content like Porn, Sports Broadcasting,fighting games, and watching streamers the whole E-sport FPS at 360 was a meme, as long as the 60fps and below 90 fps continues to improve it will find it niche
>>108370038jesus I'd fucking love a monitor or TV that could actually show sports properly I still have to use my dying plasma tv for that
>>108370008that's why i'm waiting for the x870e apex neo white, it can cost $999 and i'll still buy oneits that easy to earn my money, asus
>>108370008btw dimm.2 slot supports 2 more m.2.s (albeit one at x2) that uses chipset lanes
>>108369776now post the prices of ram
>>108369890>Verbatim 43888wtf do people still own CDs?
>>108370036>wait 2 yearsprices will never go downai centers have infinite demand
>>108370092I didn't say anything about price
am5 ddr4 full support when?https://x.com/momomo_us/status/2032823651733791028
will an amd cpu with radeon 880m integrated graphics be able to handle emulation? targeting upto and including ps3
>>108370150talking about the new apus? they are complete dogshit, don't waste your money, and they are not 880m, they are 860m or even 840mamd basically realized that rdna 4 and below are all old tech and dropped and went full on rdna5 one year ago, they don't even pretend they give a shit, wait for apus with rdna5, those will be worthwhile
>>108370086discs are making a comeback
>>108370185So is tape.M-disc is a much better option for the average joe.
Sadly I cheaped out on my mobo and realized it doesn’t have a Bluetooth adapter on it, are usb adapters good?
are the generic forward breakout cables that you see on aliexpress ok or should I be buying some name brand ones?
>>108370234>name brand oneslmao
>>108370233Just buy something like this.
>>108370159yes, the latest apus have 880m and 980m chipsets. What about the 'older' ryzen cpus with 780m chipsets?
>>108370234bro my friend bought 'name brand' sata cables for like 15$ and the retarded connector had a bunch of unneeded plastic that wouldn't clear the port, like they didn't even test it.I had a SATA cable I bought for 79 cents and worked perfectly.
>>108370299pretty sure the new apus have 860m or 840m and the older is 780m.
>>108370319The Ryzen AI 9 HX-370 has 890m
>>108370354that's a laptop chip
>>108368927idk bro I'm scared to update too and I have a 4070.
>>108369294do you ever run out of RAM? it's really only an issue if you can't manage browser tabs.
>>108370435Very rarely. Only when I try to open multiple browser tabs while a AAA game is running. I just found a few good deals so I figured I might as well get more ram.
>>108369498only RDNA4 has hardware for ray/path tracing.PS5 pro has some specific RDNA 3.5 blend that lets it do ray/path tracing too.I don't know what the difference between ray/path is I feel like it's just this general being autistic.
>>108369527dlss is upscaling though.
>>108369534it will only be interesting if it's a PC and if it's priced at <=$1200.which it will be a PC because they're exiting the console market next generation.
the 9070xt at 600$ is going to go down in history as one of the best price to performance gpus ever made
>>108370008don't buy half a motherboard then?
>>108370150if you can wait you should wait for next gen. right now they only have rdna 3, next gen will have rdna 5.rdna 3 is already not getting full support for features like upscaling.
>>108370472they actually are going to fight back against steam, this is what this is about, they'll have the xbox store offer the same games as steam for cheaper either for teh consumer or for the devs to put it in and they'll run steam for the games you already own
RDNA5 will have DirectX13 and 2nmNvidia will be stuck on DirectX12 and 3nm
>>108370492Where can I buy a complete MB then?
>>108370534filter for ATX instead of mATX or ITX.
>>108370533Who cares. AMD will still not make anything other than low end cards that still won't surpass the current 5080.
>>108370551I think the fact that Nvidia is considering just releasing a 5090 TI to beat RDNA 5 says a lot.lucky for me I don't consume hardware in that bracket so it doesn't matter.
>>108370548The ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING WIFI is an ATX board.
>>108370551
>>108370572As I said AMD will still not make anything other than low end cards that still won't surpass the current 5080
>>10837058296 RDNA 5 CUs = 192 RDNA 4 CUsso 3x 9070xt speed
>>108370582those are their best gpuslove my 480 8gblove my 5700xtlove my 9070xt
>>108370572now turn on PT, oh wait you cant because RDNA4 does not even gonna support DXR 2.0 lmao
>>108370598So their best GPU are mid tier at best? Grim.
>>108370599why would anybody use DXR when they're not even bothering to port their games to XBOX at the moment because nobody buys games on that platform?
>>108370452RDNA4 cant do pathtracing properly because it has no real denoising, closer to it its ray regeneration which is only avaliable on cod and crimson desert which neither has PT and no RT is not even close to PT see >>108369406>>108369990Without OMM on SER properly working on RDNA4 they'll never get proper pathtracing though
>>108370608>
>>108370618you keep reposting this image but it doesn't mean anything.what games even use any of this technology?
>he bought a 12vhpwr gpu
>>108370533rdna4 is 3nm too, nvidia would never allow amd to get a better node
>>108370632All pathtraced games use it from the nvapi, now it hardware agnostic as both vulkan api and dx api can run it natively without needing to integrate nvapi into the pipeline. The issue is that RDNA4 does not have dedicated RT cores, all RT or PT calculations are done on the shader cores which are incapable of doing whats needed to get playable pathtracing to properly work, Both during Hellix and project ametyhst they said that RDNA4 does not have the hardware to support the tech
>>108370643amd is skipping straight to 2nm. thats why their stock is popping off.
>>108370670>Stock is popping offanon when was the last time you checked it?
>>108370670for ryzen, not radeon.
>>108370670zen 6 is rdna 2nm, rdna5 is 3nm, zen7 is 1.4nm
>>108370599>PT>now get vaxxed goygoyslop for goycattle, you retarded muttnigger NPC
>>108370677its higher than nvidia>>108370681for both they doing next gen apus as well>>108370688nvidia is 3nm for money reasons
>>108370643nvidia was running samsung's shitty 8nm and still winning vs tsmc 7nmthey don't care
>>1083706403090 blows up, anything else melts. Pick your poison.
>>108370086BDs, not CDs.
>>108370696Anon this does not look like popping off to me, and please tell me more about the radeon gpus using 2nm
>>108370700samsung 8nm was really good, they moved to tsmc because samsung couldnt make a 6nm node
>>108370695dont make me tap the sign
>>108370718still no good games made. the only thing they won is your money.
>spend $600 on new gpu >cant play games with pathtracing>doesnt matter because they werent good anyways
>>108370710He meant it "popped off" and is now deflating.
>>108370739Buy 5090. Run any game however I choose. Go to sleep happy knowing I'm literally making money by gaming on a 90 series.
>he paid $3000 for a card that can't use pathtracing and will be completely obsolete in 2027LMAO, the 50 series will go down in history as the most pathetic nvidia series of all time
>>108370758What do you have to say to 5070 owners then?
>>108370739>>cant play games with pathtracingall five of them!
>native benchmarks at 4k spam AMD truly lost
>>1083707675070 is terrible because of only having 12gb vramthe rest of the 50 series is pathetic because it's overpriced shit and will be obsolete next year when ray tracing becomes mainstream due to it's adoption in game consoles
you losers keep talking about games you don't play, and features you don't use, and decisions you didn't make.
>>108370780Anon they announced they are sending the ALPHA dev kit for the hellix console next year. Save some of that copium, you'll need it for next year when the console are announced for 2028 and the 50 series can run pathtracing with DLSS 5.0
>>108370794helix will launch on christmas 2027
>>108370794>helix>consolepick one.
>>108370758What do you think of the 4090?
>>108370860best card made after the 1080ti if you bought it at msrp or lower than that
>>108370758According to your graph the 5090 is around 4.5 times better than a 9070xt while only costing around 3x the price. The 5090 is a bargain.
>30 fps>ONE THOUSAND WATTS>$5000 card>bargainthis is the ultimate goycattle post
>>108370904what is your purpose for existing in this state?you're not funny, you don't influence anybody's purchasing decisions, and you're late for your HRT pills.
>>108370803>helix will launch on christmas 2027
>>108370920I only post harsh truths when the nvidilosers start shilling their pathetic 50 series cards over and over again, stay mad pissy boy
>>108370904>average 5090 user
>best cpusamd>best gpusamdsimple as
>>108370931Dude you are the only one shilling. Everyone else is satisfied with their purchases. Hoping to make others join you in poor purchases will not make you happy.
https://asrock.com/MB/Intel/H610M%20COMBO%20II/index.asp>2 x DDR5 DIMMs, >1 x DDR4 DIMMThere's a ram apocalypse, so i guess we're about to get really weird with it.
>>108371069shut up nigger, read the 20 posts above my chart, every time you start shilling nonstop will remind you of your pathetic overpriced shit cards that can't run path tracing and will be obsolete next year, fuck you
>>108371091Yes you sound like you are happy in life. How did a poor purchase hurt you so bad? You should be waning people not to follow your poor decisions so they don't end up angrily ranting at the walls. Do some good for once.
>>108371069you are just as bad as him.
>>108371114Shut up retard.
>>108371114>>108371124
why would amd do something like that?>>108371197who is who?
>>108371208>who is who?Isn't it obvious?
>>108371225amd ded?
The 9070 xt was the best card of the generation, the performance per price was unbeatable at $600, and "can't run path tracing" is a bad cope as nvidia cards also can't get satisfactory fps with path tracing on as well.I don't think this is debatable, anyone arguing differently is doing so in bad faith.
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>>108371256It was so good no one bought it. Literally more 5090s were sold than 9070s
>>108371328that sounds unlikely. either way people aren't buying 5090s for gaming.
>>108370718>>108370726
>AMD sponsors a game>nvidia GPUs still looks miles betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRpJ553RzE
>>108371463AMDummies lose againbeen hyping up this game for weeks and its fully RT only plays by far the best on nvidia hardware insane levels of embarrassment
>>108371463
>>108371256it can't run path tracing, 3 year old tech and people really bought it lmao
>>108371463he's comparing a 1400 card to a 600 card
>>108370758>5090 gets 30FPS and is $2000>9070XT gets 7.4FPS and is $700>5090 is $66 per frame.>9070XT is $95 per frame.RTX 5090. Value Champion.
>>108371543except that card costs $5090
>>108371541>>108371541>>108371541
>>108365610>avoid shittelwell 4chan, an white American website, is now, clearly, a shill website where faggot advertisers pay to advertise to third world retards.
>>108371551Re-read the post anon.I said 5090. Not 5090 Lightning Z 32GB (1000W).That one gets 33fps. Which in the event you're curious is $152 per frame.Which is somehow more expensive than the atrocious 7900XTX which was $1000 at launch and gets a mere 3.9 fps for a horrific $256 per frame.AMD really has a lot of work to do in the price/performance metric, they're lagging behind Nvidia significantly.
>>108371543You forgot the part where it literally increases in value used. I remember regret with PC parts in the past. I knew the second I bought a GPU I instantly lost 20 percent. Now. if you buy a 90 series, you walk off the lot and you've made 20 percent.
>>108371500honestly its been non stop L's for Aymd lately, at least they can cope until DLSS 4.5 RR is out
>>108371463that's the problem with making all your stuff open source.
>>108371558>an white
>>108370758>implying literally anyone is going to actually play a game with memetracing 2.0 on when you're cucked down to console-tier 30fps and belowwhat is even the point of this graph other than to show that Njudea are con-artists to even attempt to push this gimmick-tech onto consoomers?
