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Debian. The king of distros.
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im revitalizing an old laptop and need a linux distro that will run decently on dual core quad thread 2nd gen intel cpu and ssd. i was thinking about pclinuxos. is it a good choice or should i look at something else?
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>>108384780
Debian with LXQt. Enable zram if you don't have much RAM.
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>>108384704
Slackware is just Gentoo but worse, change my mind
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>>108384780
AntiX or Debian if you know how to configure it
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Why are so many normies under the impression that SteamOS is getting a general release? Why would Valve do anything beyond partnering with other companies like ASUS to release hardware running SteamOS?
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>>108384802
8gb of ddr3 ram. desu it is still usable on win10 ltsc (deblaoted, telemetry off), dont expect it to have any trouble running linux
>>108384835
>Debian if you know how to configure it
how much configuring are we talking about here? i can read and follow a guide and have patience to do it for a couple of hours on the first time, if it is much more than that, then it is not for me desu
>AntiX
why is the first thing that they wrote on their page that they are anti-fascist?
not that it matters, but im pro hitler. i would still use this os if it best fits my use case tho
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bruh im going crazy with mouse setting
each time i launch x11 i feel like my mouse feels different
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>>108384861
Because legally it can't not, but a lot of people are under the delusion SteamOS will have some magic secret sauce that makes their current hardware justwerk where Fedora or Arch wouldn't.
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What's the most portable Linux device with a monitor and audio jack?
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>>108384910
A phone.
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>>108384910
MP3 player running RockBox
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>>108384861
>>108384899
I think Valve wouldn't want to deal with the support headache. There is no secret sauce that would make it better than say Fedora or Arch but retards will be retards.

I think at best there will be an unofficial "You can install this if you want" image but it'll be completely unofficial and still won't have NVIDIA support as that's another thing Valve doesn't care about (no point when all their hardware is AMD. If they ever release a Steam Deck with some ARM SOC from NVIDIA in the future then maybe they'll revisit that but I doubt it)
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Isn't it interesting the only decent linux distros (Slackware, CRUX, Gentoo, Void) are very BSD-like?
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>>108385145
There even used to be a FreeBSD and OpenBSD port of Gentoo (to be fair Debian used to have Debian kFreeBSD too) before it died due to lack of interest in maintaining it (Linux is too good now, there's literally zero point in using a BSD kernel)
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>>108385144
All that is true too. They're still going to at least release the source code because they don't want to invite predation by whatever corporate open source contributor.
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>>108385173
They already do that. You can check their Gitlab instance. That's not what the retards want though. They can't do shit with source code. They want the special magic sauce that will make everything work and solve all their problems that doesn't exist.
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>>108385160
>Linux is too good now
Maybe at playing video games and being compatible with modern backdoored hardware.
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>>108385218
That's exactly what people want though. If you want to live with a condom and chastity cage on at all times then by all means run OpenBSD. Most people just want to watch their videos and play their vidya games.
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>>108384875
>how much configuring are we talking about here?
I mean installing a lightweight DE after minimal Debian install or switching to a lightweight DE after installing stock Debian, if you're unfamiliar with doing that then antiX does it out of the box.
I hate that antiX devs shove politics in their distro, but it is a good for what it does.

Also antiX is probably one of the only distros that still has 32-bit support, even Debian dropped 32-bit support with Debian 13.
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>>108385160
I want BSD userland (including ports) + Linux kernel, why has no one done this yet?
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>>108385218
Yeah. Meanwhile BSD has no advantages for end users, and its cuck licence means that nobody has to contribute back to the ecosystem.
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>>108385317
>why has no one done this yet?
Chimera Linux?
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>>108385422
Does it have a ports system/collection like FreeBSD?
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>>108384875
>how much configuring are we talking about here?
Don't listen to that boomer he doesn't even know that Debian has Live ISO's these days. Just flash a live ISO to a USB, hit next in Calamares and you have a working computer.
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>>108384780
Q4OS Trinity is the gold standard for old 64-bit machines.
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Does anyone happen to have a list of all the distros that are going to comply with that OS age verification law bouncing around the US?
The only one I remember off the top of my head is Ubuntu, but I would imagine RHEL would comply as well.
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give it to me straight
is hyprland actually good and worth considering over the classics
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>>108385443
https://pkgs.chimera-linux.org/packages
https://chimera-linux.org/docs/apk
There isn't strictly a ports system, but it offers precompiled packages like X11, KDE, etc.
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Does anybody know why korean text breaks like this on brave browser? I'm running endevouros.
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>>108385685
Use case for Korean? Non-English languages are deprecated.
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>>108385516
>list of all the distros that are going to comply with that OS age verification
No community distro is going to comply with it, who are they gonna sue if Debian didn't comply? What about Gentoo which isn't even a distro but describes itself as a "meta-distro"?
Only distros that are going to comply are the ones that have a corporation behind them like Ubuntu, RHEL, Pop!_OS, ...etc
It just demonstrates that lawmakers are tech illiterates who don't know how the any OS works.
>>108385685
Does this happen on other browsers (particularly firefox)? if yes then it's probably something related to fontconfig
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fontconfig
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>>108385765
Doesn't happen on firefox. I'll look into fontconfig.
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>>108385807
If it's only brave then it's probably due to specific font configuration inside brave, try changing the fonts inside brave and see if anything works.
I don't use brave (or any chromium based browser) so I don't know how you configure fonts in brave, you can probably find it in the settings tab, if not then you will have to search in the chrome//:flags page
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>>108385867
>chrome//:flags
meant to type chrome://flags
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Is there any distro or software where you can just right click on a folder and click on a checkmark that says "share folder" to share with samba for the local network like in windows?
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>use hyprland
>all windows have opacity
>set a bind to toggle opaqueness for movies n stuff, works perfectly
>they get rid of this for no reason
>any time you search the internet on how to fix it you get 10 different ways to toggle opacity that are all deprecated
I will never understand how linux / linux software will have like 300 random ass features or options but even the basic bare bones shit doesn't work or isn't considered important enough to focus on. How can I fix this?
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>This page was last edited on 16 March 2026, at 09:21
>Finally the flatpak can be uninstalled
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>>108385414
>BSD has no advantaged for end user
Maybe not to some wintoddler refugee.
>cuck license
This basically projection at this point. GPLers got cucked by SaaS so hard you had to updoot your license well after the damage had already been done. They got cucked by LLMs. They got cucked by people rewritting everything in MIT/Apache licenced Rust anyway.
If you are so worried about being "cucked" write closed source software.
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>>108386064
What are the advantages of BSD to the end user?
>If you are so worried about being "cucked" write closed source software.
That is exactly what companies using BSD do, and absolutely none of it trickles down to BSD users unlike GPL projects lol
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>>108382773
Settings -> Desktop session -> general
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>>108386087
>What are the advantages of BSD
A stable Unix that isn't an inscrutible, backdoored, increasingly Rusty clusterfuck.
>That is exactly what companies using BSD do, and absolutely none of it trickles down to BSD users unlike GPL projects lol
Ok enjoy your contributions from companies with jeet employees and ceos..
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>>108386506
>A stable Unix
End users don't care about Unix; POSIX doesn't help me jack off.
>inscrutible, backdoored, increasingly Rusty clusterfuck.
Idk about backdoors but I'll say Rust doesn't get in the way of me and jacking off.
>Ok enjoy your contributions from companies with jeet employees and ceos
I would assume these companies assign their actual white engineers to Linux kernel contributions, or otherwise just fund kernel development, because these companies have a stake in ensuring their Linux servers work; BSD gets no investment that trickles down to end users because Sony and Apple keep their BSD forks proprietary.
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Best partition for 2TB m.2 and two 500gb SSDs on a daily driver?
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>>108384780
xD exquisite post
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>>108385765
Yeah, I guess I just have to avoid corporate backed distros then. Good point.
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Do people still use vertical/tree tab addons on a recent firefox? I can't for the life of me hide the native firefox vertical tab sidebar, even with the many userChrome.css I've been finding on google
am I missing something? this just looks bad
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>>108386620
a 512MB-1GB fat32 /boot partition for your EFI needs, 50GB-75GB for your root partition (already including space for a swap file if you want/need it, do NOT create a swap partition), and the remainder of your 2TB drive as /home
I guess that's it. Maybe format your SATA drives and set them as noauto so they won't mount automatically at boot
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Okay, that's the last fucking straw. I'm sick of the bugs in KDE's clipboard manager, Kilpper. You write a picture to your clipboard and even GIMP can't pick it up.

What are some popular alternatives?
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>>108387162
you won't like them
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I installed Linux mint onto an older gaming laptop to give it more life. but, it seems like the gtx 1060 architecture is too old for modern games on linux?
I don't mean top of the line stuff, just things like MH stories and Umamusme, games any PC could run but mine can't now. Wondering if there is a fix to this that doesn't involve reinstalling microsoft spyware.
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>>108386452
thanks!
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>>108387337
what driver are you using? if it's noveau that's your problem.
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>>108387337
I had a 1050ti for the longest time and it worked, though it's considered the minimum nowadays. What are your other specs?
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>>108387397
535
there's a few options like 580, 570, but i switched from nouveau pretty quicly
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>>108387403
Intel Core i7 -7700
GTX 1050 TI, I mistyped lol
and like 16 gigs of ram
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>>108387337
Install the proprietary Nvidia driver and you should be good.
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>>108387439
>>108387403
Oh I may have found the issue
i dont think linux likes hybrid laptops too much, it keeps switching to integrated graphics after a reboot
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>>108387162
I've been having issues as well (can't paste shit), to the point the entire computer freezes after a few attempts. It's ridiculous.
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First day using fedora... why can't I have folders to calculate the size of its content or secondary SSD's sing names like 234d9f5b-bfbd-4f46-a37b-420ed6940690. You can add a friendly name but try to use it in some apps
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>check processes because for peace of mind
>'privileged mozi'
>google
>keylogging botnet with elevated kde permissions
>holyfuckholyfuck
>now hold the fortress
>mozi... mozilla
>close firefox
>process ends

Spooked me for a bit but I guess its fine
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>>108387692
Unix-like systems don't have "folders". They are called directories.
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Anyone else ever have the problem where popups such as yomitan or bitwarden didn't show text on brave browser? I use arch linux.
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how is cachyOS for a new user that wants to move from Ubuntu (pop_os!) to Arch? I like CLI it's super fun but also want to hack GUIs and need some ease of use being an ex-windows user learning for the 1st time. seems like Arch is super powerful but I dunno if I'm smart enough to go in raw yet.
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>>108383749
I wouldn't go so far as to call it hidden, but desktop distros push you towards using the gtk interface, and when you start the daemon, there's no text message which tells you that there's now a webserver listening on this or that port. The package description in Apt also doesn't mention it.
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>>108387957
Pretty much any time there's a network RPC interface you can infer it's a web server. Not all of them have a full browser UI of course.
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>>108387911
It's about the same except for some minor annoyances, usually related to the package manager. Like systemd services from packages you're installing will not be auto-enabled and auto-started like ubuntu and every now and then you'll have to take a manual action to unfuck pacman (it comes from upstream, they always post what to do and why it's happening on arch's website, take a glance at archlinux.org homepage to see what it looks like)
other than that it's probably fine. keep in mind that AUR is "unsupported", don't treat it as a regular repository if you'll be using AUR helpers, never blindingly install anything without checking it first on the website.
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I have several engineering tools that only work on windows. Does Linux have a good vm to run win11 fast in a separate window that I can open as a tile in a tile manger?
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>>108385974
no one was probably going to answer this so I just made a stupid script for it. Learning something new ig
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>>108388261
QEMU works, i use Coreldraw here and there for retouching a couple of knitting patterns, though don't expect hardware acceleration to work out of the box (you have to configure some shit for that, i.e. install guest tools on the Windows VM is very recommended for clipboard integration and stuff) if you don't care about that is golden. Virt-manager makes it retard proof:
https://fedoramagazine.org/full-virtualization-system-on-fedora-workstation-30/
I know absolutey nothing about QEMU, and still could mount a shared directory for my stuff going through the GUI wizard.
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>>108387337
You probably are using Nouveau the open source driver, it doesn't support well new cards, only a subset of ancient ones, is mostly meant as a fallback so your system can at least display SOME GUI until you install the propietary one. Linux Mint has a wizard to install it.
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Why can't I get volume buttons on my laptop to work in dwm? I have done everything correct
In my dwm.c I have:
#include <X11/XF86keysym.h
In my config.h I have:
static const char *volup[] = { "amixer", "sset", "Master", "5%+", NULL };
static const char *voldown[] = { "amixer", "sset", "Master", "5%-", NULL };
static const char *volmute[] = { "amixer", "sset", "Master", "toggle", NULL };

{ MODKEY, XF86XK_AudioRaiseVolume, spawn, {.v = volup } },
{ MODKEY, XF86XK_AudioLowerVolume, spawn, {.v = voldown } },
{ MODKEY, XF86XK_AudioMute, spawn, {.v = volmute } },

I did sudo make install with no errors, then restarted dwm, but still nothing
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>>108384704
Honestly, after using my Steam Deck as my main machine on vacation, I'm remembering just how much I like using Linux and KDE.
It's honestly... refreshing? Hopefully one day I can stop the copes and fully transition over to Linux on my main rig.
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I'm still pretty new to Linux and I've been using Debian 13 for a week. I want to move from Sway to SwayFX but after trying and failing to follow the install instructions so many times because it demands wlroots-0.19 and I only have 0.15.1, I'm considering installing 0.19 from the unstable repository. So far I've only used stable/testing. Is that a good idea or does it actually have a chance of breaking my shit somehow?
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>>108388537
QEMU has gotten a LOT better at doing a simple Windows VM setup with a shared directory (no 3d acel by default needs tweaking, but if all you need is like Photoshop and some junk tax filling software, it works).
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>>108384704
I recently built a new computer with Ubuntu 24.04. If a plug a mic into the rear panel port, pavucontrol shows it as plugged in and I can record sound with gnome-sound-recorder. But if I plug it into the front panel port, pavucontrol says unplugged and I cannot record. Yet the sound level meter in pavucontrol moves in response to sound, so clearly it's working but pavucontrol doesn't recognize it. WTF?
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>>108388039
ok so no retard shit need to be on point. damn this ecosystem is kinda fucked. I don't mean *nix I mean w/ age verification and all the fetishists larping as activists for some dumb fucking reason.

I just want to do cool shit why did I discover this during the worst time for it ever.

I deserve the pain of Arch if it's good I will learn.
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Someone make a Fedora version of that Lain wallpaper, its kino
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>>108384704
Anyone else really hyped for Fedora 44?
It's gonna be awesome to nuke my current build that's become bloated and replace it with a brand new, fresh install.
Only a month away now!
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>>108384899
lol, the secret sauce is checking if your hardware supports the software you install before hand. Should be basic tech literacy.
>>108385160
Linux is only starting to get bad.
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>>108385685
Fonts are still an unsolved problem on Linux
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Is it me or did kdenlive get shittier?
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>>108389678
Was running Kinoite 44 for a few days bug hunting, it was fine. If you can stomach flatpak and toolbox containers, the Atomic versions are very nice. Daily system image updates (and reboots) from running prerelease 44 was kinda annoying, especially if you are like me and autistically check for and install updates.
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>>108388483
Looks right but maybe test if the keys are working with simple printf command.
Use external script instead, eg something like "sh -c 'pamixer --allow-boost --set-limit 150 -i 10'".
I don't know how amixer would work in this context.
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>>108385443
Netbsd ports system runs on any Linux distro if you hate yourself.
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What's a good vnc viewer client for linux? I try to search about one and I just get ads or ai articles
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>>108389943
Remmina?
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>>108389948
this worked great thanks
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>>108389678
Why are you nuking your OS instead of just updating?
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Firstly, fuck California. Second, If I'm an Australian Fedorafag. am I gonna have to verify my age?
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>Ubuntu will comply with Cuckifornia laws
>Downstream distros like Mint will comply with Cuckifornia laws
>Flathub will comply with Cuckifornia laws
Kek. Not my problem using Debian and native packages.
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>>108385317
>BSD userland (including ports) + Linux kernel, why has no one done this yet?
It has been done. One of the Void Linux maintainers ported the OpenBSD userland to Linux.
https://git.duncano.de/lobase/
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>>108390448
I'll just switch to LMDE when that happens.
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>>108390397
You will never have to verify your age.
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>>108390466
There's no point to using LMDE over Debian Cinnamon (or even Debian KDE)
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>>108390448
Why do you think Debian will not comply eventually?
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>>108390471
Even for a beginner?
I am very, very much tech illiterate.
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>>108390482
Debian is an international community project with no formal headquarters. And given that government servers depend on Debian, they can't do shit to coerce Debian volunteers.
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>>108390497
I wouldn't recommend Mint to beginners to be honest, Cinnamon is very clunky and the Mint tools are also kind of fragmented. I'd say Debian is easier than Mint nowadays, yeah.
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>>108390505
>I'd say Debian is easier than Mint nowadays, yeah.
huh...
Well, I'd say that warrants at least checking it out.
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>>108390499
They should play to strength it would be funny. Add mandatory age verification with online ID required, store all of the government IDs, then leak them to the world.
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>>108390459
Presumably it's not the same though, because Linux doesn't have the same kernel features so the security that depends on pledge and unveil, etc, doesn't work. I know people have attempted to port them to Linux but don't think it's complete.
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good morning fellow linux enjoyers
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>>108390505
>>108390513
I'd say regular Mint is easier than LMDE which is more or less the same as Debian proper.

For a tech illiterate Mint is ok, just old packages since it is based on 24.04 for the current version. Mostly not an issue, but some packages are going to be missing features, like GIMP 2 vs 3, while others may not be able to utilize config files from newer versions in say, Arch (had this problem with weechat on Ubuntu 24.04). You can get around this with PPAs and flatpaks but this complicates things.

Honestly, even for a tech illiterate CachyOS may be worth looking into. It's just Arch with a friendly installer, fancy kernel and package optimizations) and some preconfigured desktops, some are a bit half bakednbut as long as you stick with KDE or GNOME you will be fine until the next Big Migration© where you have to type in a command to get the updates rolling again. Much newer packages and no need to reinstall or do a major upgrade, but not suitable if you hate updating or have a metered connection.

This is not a guarantee that Arch or CachyOS won't bend the knee to Age Verififlcation, just my personal favorite distro at the moment. Octopi is easy enough to graphically install packages, but I'm looking at it through the eyes of a hardened Linux veteran of 25 years and not, as you say, a "tech illiterate."
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>>108390827
A tech illiterate would be far better off with Bazzite or another UBlue Fedora image than Mint or CachyOS.
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>>108390835
Fuck off Ublue shill, what are you still doing here?
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>>108390835
I wouldn't say Bazzite, but Fedora Atomic distros are basically foolproof if you don't layer the wrong packages. But you gotta be careful with this, as this requires flatpaks and toolbox+podman oh my. Sometimes it is a challenge, like setting up a VPN. You can't install the RPM+repo like normal, so you end up downloading a zip of Wireguard configs and importing them into your network manager. Not something that is very intuitive.
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One of my friends put Plasma 6 on some old shitbox and it actually runs well. Old dual core i3 with 4GB of RAM, still runs great. Linux will legit run on anything lol
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>>108390854
Then make a better distro so I can shill it instead?

>>108390867
>You can't install the RPM+repo like normal
This is just blatantly wrong. You can "rpm-ostree install" packages from Fedora repos. And you can "rpm-ostree install any-package.rpm".
For example, Windscribe VPN has an .rpm package and you can install it on Fedora Atomic just fine. The only difference is you need to reboot your PC after the install.

Besides, Proton, Nym and Surfshark are available on Flathub while several VPNs have a browser extension (most people only care about browser traffic). Also most people don't even use VPNs.
So it's kind of a moot point, but I agree there's very little information out there that Fedora Atomic has no issues with most .rpm packages since they can all be installed with rpm-ostree just like a deb package can be installed with apt.
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>>108391016
You're not supposed to layer packages at all, or very sparingly. Layering a KDE package and rebasing to GNOME made the image not boot and required a rollback. Telling people to just layer it up like a 7 layer dip is bad practice. I only layer three packages: fish, micro, and steam-devices. No more layering, it's considered harmful.
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>>108391016
Layering is so gay because you have to reboot your PC each time. It also defeats the point of using an immutable distro, like just use a normal distro if you don't want Flatpak bloat
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>>108391031
I'm not saying "layer everything". I'm saying you can layer stuff if you really have to.
>No more layering, it's considered harmful.
It's as harmful as installing a system package on non-atomic distributions. You're deviating from the base OS and you're increasing the odds of something breaking after you do a system upgrade. That's why Ubuntu, Mint and Debian sometimes break after an upgrade. But that doesn't mean you should always avoid installing system packages and only use Flatpaks.

>>108391065
>It also defeats the point of using an immutable distro
No, it doesn't.
>just use a normal distro
These are normal distros. If anything non-atomic distros are the ones breaking away from the norm since every other OS is atomic or has transactional updates.
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>>108391084
>If anything non-atomic distros are the ones breaking away from the norm since every other OS is atomic or has transactional updates
what
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>>108391175
Why are you confused? macOS, iOS and Android are atomic and immutable. Windows uses transactional updates ever since Windows 10. Linux is the odd one out here, aside from Fedora Atomic and immutable distributions which are the only normal distros.
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>>108387439
Damn I had the exact same, Asus RoG strix. It can play GTA5, most new(ish) racing sims, Kingdom Come Deliverance, etc. Held up surprisingly well considering I never even bought it for gaming.
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Using neovim as a manpager and I’m having issue opening URLs in manpages with the standard ’gx’. The only solution I had wa to load man in :man neovim mode, but this loads all plugins and causes it to be slow!

What did you do to open URLs in manpages in a browser when hovering with a cursor?
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>>108391374
What's wrong with man for viewing man pages? You're creating lots of issues to avoid using your mouse? Seems counterproductive.

Looks like you can use regular vim in a special mode or w3m (text browser) by piping the man page into it.

man -Hw3m [command]


export MANPAGER="vim -M +MANPAGER -"
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>>108391610
Not him, but man doesn't do syntax highlighting.
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>>108391648
Nor does it allow jumping with K, but like I said URLs can’t be opened directly in a new browser without yanking it and manually typing…
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>>108391958
I don't really care about URLs either but I like pretty colours.
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Ok, so my server suddenly became unresponsive. Most of my services and bots stopped working. For some reason Uptime Kuma did worked and reported that every single service is timing out. Portainer also responded but it couldn't connect to docker socket.
SSH took maybe 20min to load. htop never loaded. ls would take maybe 5min to print home directory. journalctl also took some time but has shown no recent errors or anything. top did loaded but showed this.

Wtf are all these 1001 users with seemingly random commands?
Is this normal for docker or something or is my server compromised?
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Mint chads assemble

Its so much better than windblows 11. I cant go back at this point. Its just too polished.

At this point linux is just too good not to use.

I click update when it notifies me with the orange icon, it updates.

I click install on steam, it installs

I click install on OBS, it installs.

I click play on a game, it launches with better performance than windows and smoother gameplay frametime.
Mint feels more polished than windows 11 at this point.
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>>108385553
no
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>>108392140
u got hacked my friend
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>>108392200
Some google searching later it confirms it. Well, there go my next few evenings setting it all up from scratch. Thanks god I did the jump to dockerize everything few months ago, it won't be that hard to just restore it all from compose files and database files.

Any idea how could this shit get in? I will reboot it in recovery mode and look through sshd logs to see if maybe it's my ssh key that got compromised, but I didn't really left any obvious openings.
Since all these processes are attached to 1001 user which doesn't exist(I think?) it's safe to say it's root that got compromised, ya?
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>>108392232
Start by looking which ports are open and which services are exposed, also revisit passwords, I once got pwned because the ssh port was open and the password was way too simple/predictable (noob error really). You might want to post this to >>>/g/hsg/ as it's a more relevant thread
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Hyprland is a meme. I managed to get Arch running on KDE and Hyprland respectively, and I saw no usecase for window managers and tiling if all I do is have firefox open and do my work inside tmux + neovim in a terminal with sessions and pane splitting.

I’d also prefer having a desktop look which KDE gives out of the box. I can also remap Super + n to switch to virtual desktop n from KDE itself. Absolute 0 usecase for window managers.
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>>108392308
>I once got pwned because the ssh port was open and the password was way too simple/predictable (noob error really).
Yeah, it looks that was it. I just recently been migrating my servers and left my user with a simple(and probably leaked) password and forgotten to disable password login.

>reboot the server in recovery mode
>attempts to connect to my user account from 157.245.115.125 and 211.110.229.128
https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/157.245.115.125
https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/211.110.229.128
Well, I guess that's it.
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>>108392232
1001 would be the typical UID for "the second user", as normal users start from UID 1000 in linux typically, the fact it's unnamed and you're apparently unaware of a second user is enough for me to be worried. the completely random process names are just so obviously not normal.
remember to keep backups, anon. even if it's just a simple manual rsync once things are how you want them.
use strong passwords, but also try not to have anything accessible by password, like for ssh set it to public key auth only. also consider things like fail2ban to prevent repeated attempts
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>>108392471
Well, docker containers tend to run of random user ids sometimes, so it wasn't that obvious for me. Command names were weird, but I am also more used to htop than top, so I thought that maybe it's some top specific thing. Still, I took the server offline before even making the first post in this thread.

>remember to keep backups, anon. even if it's just a simple manual rsync once things are how you want them.
Yeah, I just haven't done that yet. I just migrated the server week ago and was about to order some home nas box for backups. But I still have the old server around, I just need to make sure the intrusion happened after migration not before. But I really can't see any suspicious logs desu.

>use strong passwords, but also try not to have anything accessible by password
Yea, I try to not to. I just set up simple password for quick test when I had some initial routing issues just when I got the new server, and I forgotten to disable it by the time the hosting fixed routing and I could connect normally again.

Thanks for advice.
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>>108392546
>>108392471
I also set up so my userids start with 4200+ few years ago when I set up this system for the first time. I don't even remember why. But it seems the malware wanted to appear as "some other user" to obscure itself, but didn't really checked if the user even exist.
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>>108392546
temporary weak access is so very tempting, but if you watch logs of newly started services you can quickly see how that's a bad idea. the internet these days is absolutely crawling with bots, you should absolutely expect that even a new ssh server is going to get knocks on it's door within minutes
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>>108392546
>>108392576
speaking of leaked passwords as well, i had to give up on my teenagehood password (that version of which i'd used since about 2007 which was a variant of one i made up in 2003) as well when my steam account got broken into the second time, after that (back in 2017) i realised i had to finally give up using just a few passwords for everything and started using random long passwords and managing them in keepass. i didn't want to do it but what choice do you have
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>>108392615
Yeah, KeepAss is pretty great.

Kek, this is funny. "chuj" means "dick" in Polish. I am pretty sure this is just automated ssh bruteforce bot, but why this word in particular lmao.
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>>108392546
>I just set up simple password for quick test
>and I forgotten to disable it
You have exactly 3 seconds before at least 20 figurative internet niggers attempt to break in. You basically have no leeway
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>>108392655
>internet niggers
hahahhahh
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>>108392648
it's pretty sad, but it's honestly no wonder personal websites are dead. it used to be that you'd be fine unless you were a big site with something to gain by even trying to hack it, but now you have countless bots just trying whatever against whoever because just having a little more computing resources or another IP to use is value enough when you don't have to do the hacking yourself.
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>>108392566
>I don't even remember why
because UIDs <1000 are often used by known software so 420 wasn't an option
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>>108392717
Well, I have bunch of friends on the server with user accounts so I guess the joke was everyone's id starts with 420-something
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When is Kwin going to implement hardware acceleration on Aurorae themes?
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>>108392693
I wonder what's the point even. If the malware stayed dormant it could use my IP for sending spam or proxy or whatever. It could also just encrypt everything and demand a ransom. But instead it just tried to fork bomb DoS? Of course I am going to pull server offline and reinstall it, what's the point?
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>>108392794
idk, it seems counter-productive to me to load down the server so much that the legit owner can't use it anymore. perhaps it's simply a case that the tools used to to this kind of break in are simple enough that retards can use them. no offence intended but you've admitted yourself that you left an ssh server running with a weak password, so the calibre of attacker may simply have not been very high
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>amd a4
>4gb ram
>hdd
what easy-to-use distro do you recommend?
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>>108392938
Mint or Fedora with XFCE.
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>>108392952
thanks
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>>108392938
pretty much anything with a lighter DE will do
i'd highly recommend getting even a cheap/small ssd for it if only for root/basic home folder usage. ssd's make a big difference regardless of os, though there are some ways to improve things when using a hdd
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>>108392938
Q4OS Trinity is the gold standard for old pieces of shit.
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>>108392938
Anything will work on it. You can just install Ubuntu, Fedora KDE/Workstation or Debian+KDE. Unless you really want to squeeze every bit of memory out of it in which case forget about "ease of use" and use any distro with IceWM or at least use Q4OS+Trinity. Xfce isn't that lightweight anymore.
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>>108393013
thanks for the advice, but I'm poor kek
>>108393031
interesting, it's like an old windows
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>>108393060
oh, so c4os isn't a friendly distro? i really don't want headaches, i wouldn't mind sacrificing a little fluidity for something foolproof
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>>108393068
>thanks for the advice, but I'm poor kek
you might want to look into some old advice regarding using an os on a hdd then, old because nobody runs os's from hdd's these days if they can help it.
i understand ssd's are getting expensive, but i'm talking like even a basic 120GB sata drive will be such a big difference in terms of how quick it feels it's usually worth it, though i can also understand not wanting to spend any money on something like that which is probably worth no more than a 120GB ssd these days
it depends, is this just a second computer to play with linux on, or is this your main computer?
in any case, if you want to stick with the hdd, consider some things like;
- use zram/zswap instead of plain swap, swapping is very slow on a hdd and with 4G of ram it may be difficult to avoid swap entirely depending on what you want to run on it
- consider a small partition at the start of the disc for your root partition. hdd's due to their disc nature are approximately twice as fast both in terms of transfer rate and latency near the beginning compared to near the end, so a small partition near the start ensures the os and applications are confined to just the fastest parts of the disc
- check out e4rat, it's a special profiler/defragger which can greatly improve the time it takes to boot and get into frequently used applications
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>>108393060
>>108393113
My two cents: Trinity desktop is a security nightmare. It has nostalgic appeal, but being based on an abandoned version of QT3 plus a tiny set of eyes on the code means there is a lot of vulnerabilities.

If you want ultimate low spec, but with most of the creature comforts of a "Desktop Environment" check out something with LXQT as the default. Like Lubuntu, or CachyOS and selecting LXQT as the desktop. There are plenty of options.
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>>108393165
to be fair who on earth would even want to target trinity for malware?
i loved kde3, it was my first experience with linux, but it's extremely niche nowadays and that's just within linux users
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>>108393113
It's "friendly" like Windows XP was. It's not unusable, but it doesn't have the bells and whistles of modern DEs like KDE and GNOME.

>>108393145
To be fair, even 120GB SSDs went up from $12 to $35 in most places. And if he's from some poor country or if he's a student then that's probably a difference between getting faster boot up speeds vs making sure he can eat next week.

>>108393165
Security is a nightmare on Linux desktops in general. If you want a security-optimized distro you should use Secureblue. Or at least go for Arch-based distros instead of LTS distros like Lubuntu/Debian/etc. since those only backport security patches that have a CVE assigned to them. And of course, he would have to primarily use Flatpaks since they're the closest thing you have to a "secure" app package format.
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>>108393145
oh, I read about zram and the swap, apparently it is a good tool to not demand so much from the hard drive and give better use to the ram. i will take it into account. as for the partitions, i prefer not to touch them, in fact I plan to install linux by deleting the entire hard drive
>>108393165
>a tiny set of eyes on the code
how scary
>lubuntu
yes, i think i'm going to go for mint or lubuntu, i have seen that they are highly recommended. stable, large communities, easy to use and lightweight
>>108393232
i see
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>>108393304
LXQt is really fucking shit anon. If you're picking between Mint Xfce and Lubuntu, just use Mint.
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>>108389357

perhaps select inputs to record in dropdown menus
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>>108393355
>LXQt is really fucking shit
KEK, why do you say that?
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>>108393382
I tried it a couple of years ago. It looks and feels like a project made by college students who just wanted a passing grade. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like a worse version of Xfce.
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>>108393452
>It looks and feels like a project made by college students who just wanted a passing grade
lmao, ok, i'll listen to you then
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>>108391084
>If anything non-atomic distros are the ones breaking away from the norm since every other OS is atomic or has transactional updates.
The two are not mutually exclusive. A non-atomic Fedora has transactions via Dnf (with history and rollbacks built-in) and if you do the updates via GNOME Software, etc, then they apply offline at boot time too.
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>>108393518
None of that has anything to do with how an ostree distro works though. There's nothing stopping you from doing online updates, and dnf transactions only concern the dnf database.
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>>108393701
>dnf transactions only concern the dnf database.
Which is perfectly fine if you're not manually monkeying around in the filesystem to the extent that not even Dnf can fix your fuck up.
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>>108393735
>Which is perfectly fine if you're not manually monkeying around in the filesystem to the extent that not even Dnf can fix your fuck up.
I don't see a reason why not to use an ostree distro if that's the case. It's a better implementation of transactional updates and maintainable system mods.
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>>108394004
It all comes down to personal preference. If you're most comfortable with mutable systems and the tooling around that then it makes sense to use that.
A lot of the tutorials and help for a new Linux user currently assumes a mutable system too because that was the case for a long time so a new user on an immutable system trying to do something more complicated than install an app may get stuck. That will change over time as more people use it though but in the here and now it may not be the best choice for everyone.
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how long away is KDE support for Vulkan?
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Have we all made the switch to Wayland yet?
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>>108394209
yeah now it's about switching from OpenGL renderers to Vulkan renderers
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>>108394031
Fair point, I guess that's true. Although after using immutables for 5 years I've never encountered anything I couldn't do on them the same way it's done in non-immutable distros. The most I ever need to change is stuff in /etc which is writable in Fedora. The only learning curve was realizing layering a package requires a reboot.
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How do I fix this second disk? I want to convert between btrfs profiles but this one drive runs out of space when I start the conversion. Ideally without btrfs removing and readding it since that's slow as fuck.
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Bros, should I be worried?
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>>108394596
Worried of what? Your disk space?
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Which is the least mentally ill well-maintained linux distro? I don't want to hear about CIS-gendered nonsense, leadership councils, etc.
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>>108388771
>Use Linux only to end up using Windows in Linux
No.
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>>108394629
Any of them. Almost no distro includes politics in the OS. But if you want a distro which will never have this, then avoid anything developed by Americans and Europeans. Go for Deepin Linux and embrace the Chinese overlords.
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>>108394629
Nothing wrong with leadership councils. A distro without leadership is not a serious distro, it's a one-man hobby project.
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>>108394646
To be clear, I understand some people are tainted and you should not go near them because a nuclear bomb will go off but that's a people problem. Those people should never have been put in leadership in the first place.

A distro does need leaders though if you want it to go anywhere.
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>>108393452
>a couple of years ago
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>>108394646
It invites unserious people who in a normal world, would be shut out from any position of authority in a technical project.

picrel
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>>108394672
That's just a Debian problem though. There are distros with leadership councils that don't have this woke BS.
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>>108394629
LFS
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>>108394615
Must've fucked around with Fastfetch for too long to get the screenshot.
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>>108394661
SURELY a DE maintained by 3 people and a distro that gets updates only once every 2 years drastically changed since 2024.
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>>108394672
>pathologically anti-corporate distro full of pinkotroons
who could've anticipated this
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>>108384830
>Slackware is gentoo
How is Slackware gentoo?
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>>108389884
I found out my mistake, and I feel like such an idiot now. It's supposed to say 0 instead of MODKEY.
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>>108394989
Both are shit
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Is all of the built-in KDE software shit? I ditched Klipper yesterday and Spectacle today.
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>ffmpeg randomly uninstalled after updating KDE yesterday on Fedora
???
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>>108395178
Probably was a dep of something that no longer needs ffmpeg, or the package that needed ffmpeg is no longer a dep of the kde desktop meta package.
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>>108395178
Just wait until your sound stops working because the device itself will disappear as some ffmepg dependency removed the driver itself.
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>>108395217
>>108395230
>Probably was a dep of something that no longer needs ffmpeg
You know what, I forgot that I also uninstalled kdenlive yesterday before updating. That most likely uninstalled ffmpeg.
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What the fuck?
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>>108395270
What is this AI talking about
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>>108395270
>can't screenshot a rectangular region without the screenshot application
What is the issue?
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>>108395281
Best as I can tell, KDE 6 removed the backend for it.
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>>108384704
Why does KDE and Gnome give you a slew of options to change the Caps Lock key to but none of them let you bind it to an extra function key? I need a better prefix key for tmux. I've been using CTRL + space for a long time now but I've just realized how grating that is and it's starting to annoy me. My keyboard is a Logitech MX Keys Mini which is advertised as "programmable" but only function keys F4-F12 and the insert and delete keys are divertible by Solaar. I'm on Gayland so I can't use xmodmap either. Utterly ridiculous. What do?
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>>108395270
>KDE peasants finally catch a whiff of the unix philosophy
>they sperg out complaining about not having all of their precious bloat
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>>108392142
So happy you've found your distro.
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>>108395353
All that I fucking want is a screenshot tool that can do
>rectangular screenshots
>full screen screenshots
>any of the above after a delay
>any of the above, saved to clipboard and file
This should be ultra basic. It isn't.
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>>108395144
Dolphin, Gwenview, Okular, Kate and Spectacle are all goated
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>>108395471
And what does that have to do with managing your windows? You don't ask your dildo to also brew you coffee, do you? You have one tool for each job.
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>>108395349
I'd also like to add how hostile some prefix keys are. The default, C-b prevents you from going back a word. Some retard on Hacker News said C-/, that's even worse since now you can't undo. C-a is also one I've read, congratulations now you can't go to the beginning of the line. Do any of these people realize Readline/Emacs hotkeys? One of these days I'll have to get back into Emacs and so I don't have to deal with nonsense like this anymore.
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>>108395471
Spectacle does all of that. Why not just use Spectacle?
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>>108395349
>>108395483
Why doesn't tmux let you bind things to caps lock? Why does it have to be remapped using some third-party dogshit? It's the same as any other key, key code 58. If I were to try to implement and push this myself who would be stopping me?
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I like the new folder icons in Ubuntu 26.04, they stand out more in a nice way



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