>makes desktops obsolete
>turns laptops into desktops
>>108443544but, can it run Crysis?
>60hz refresh rate
>>108443549Your life is in crisis if you still play video games as an adult
>>108443549Nothing could ever run it properly anyway, it was always poorly optimized snownigger shit.
>>108443551>59.66666Hz
>>108443564>snowniggerCrytek is a german company>>108443560okay buddy
>>108443581>Crytek is a german companyYes.
>>108443544Hubs are a solution to an artificial problem
>>108443544Why dont they make one that also adds in multiple nvme slots in? I'd take one if it featured dual (or more) x4 nvme slots that you park in on top/bottom cover. One for storage and one for x4 eGPU. Then using USB 4.0 for bandwidth for full usage.
>>1084435992/3 of those ports are obsolete.Even then, plugging/unplugging one (1) cable is more comfy.
>>108443551? We use docks at the office I work at and they have no problem running 2 4k 120Hz monitors.
>>108443688You are lying. Internet neckbeards have collectively decided that Laptops Will Never Replace Desktops.
Docks can support higher framerates but you need to drop more shekels however.Also nothing beats a wired direct connection from pc to your screen.
>>108443698Laptops are overpriced trash that's fucked the moment a single component starts failing, are more prone to fan and heating issues, battery issues, can't easily replace the more expensive components etc...For gaming they're a scam that have been effectively replaced by gamepads that also bear the same issues but can be cheaper (steam deck) while boasting much more dedicated specs and support.For the really good shit=>Desktop, and phones eventually, at least in the EU where battery swap is returning.
>>108443688at my work it refuses to go over 60hz with 2 2k monitorsbut maybe they cheaped out on docks idk
>>108443762Why would they not lmao
>>108443673all of those ports are obsolete
Is that a display adapter?
>>108443560My life is actually freakin' awesome and I play video games.
>>108443673There's 5 ports there(DC, USB, LAN, S-Video, and Serial), and literally none of them are obsolete. Although the USB should be the newest spec and the LAN port probably is only gigabit at best.
>>108443544>VGA to USBCA daring synthesis
>>108443544>runs build on all cores>throttles immediately
>>108443754sure, lemme lug around a full tower desktop everywhere i go
>>108444172Stop using Sepples.
>>108444265No.
>>108444254just stop going places and live a sedentary life
>>108443981reddit
>>108443992Except all that can be done through the same USB now
>>108443673>more comfykill yourself troon
>>108444354zoomer
>>108444504yes, I'm younger than you, stronger than you, make more money than you, fuck better than you and haven't played the bing bing wahoos since I was 12
everyone itt was born after 2000
>>108444563I wish
>>108443551I have been using 60Hz monitors all my life and I don’t give a fuck about some extra Hz kys
>>108444668Why waste money on 60Hz? Use 30Hz
>>108444525You also haven't touched pussy since you were shat out of your mother's rotten womb
>just pipe ethernet, multiple displays, and multiple USB ports through a single usb-c connection, what could go wrong?Meanwhile docks don't have the bandwidth to support a headset without issues.
>>108444888ouch, hit a nerve unc?
>>108444888trips of truth
>>108444938What $5 docks are you buying
>>108445489NTA but I have an anker 777 dock with a few usb devices, ethernet, and 3 1440p monitors.On my work x1 carbon it can only do 1440p 60hz on all 3 when 2 or more are connected. Maybe a windows 11 issue idk.On my linux personal laptop it can do triple 1440p with two at 60hz and one at 120hz unstable, it flickers off then on every 30min or so. 60hz across the board is stable. It won't even display if I have more than one at >100hz.I use a thicker 3rd party tb4 cable and the other peripherals are more stable but still doesn't solve the refresh rate issue.It's a $300 dock btw.
>>108443992S-video seems like the worst of all worlds>Want max quality?Displayport or HDMI>Want max quality but still need it to be analog?Component>Want analog with the widest compatibility?CompositeS-video specifically ties you to a small subset of displays that probably already had composite-in anyway, while not even giving you the quality of component>>108444359>Except all that can be done through the same USB nowYou should never remove a port and say "You can do that through USB" if you're not gonna have one USB port per port removed. Also USB-C sucks ass for charging, give me a barrel jack
we had docking stations for at least 40 years at this point, anon
>>108444563>using being old as a flex.
>>108445489A more expensive dock isn't going to change the bandwidth limit of the USBC port, anon.
>>108443560i do play video games but that was a good one, good job anon
45W laptop 140W video io hub muh efficiency does it need special usb-c cable too
>>108443560>tfw I make more money than I know what to do with>tfw I own two houses and a condo, all paid for>tfw 3 cars, paid for>tfw still play video games a few times a week because they're funMy life is pretty great all things considered. I just enjoy video games. Same as I enjoy taking my boat out and sailing out to the ocean, or building things with my hands in my workshop. Or posting on the imageboard that I've been on since my early 20s for nostalgia. Your "stop liking what I don't like" attitude reeks of immature child.
>how much power you get, which ports work, usb speeds, how many monitors work is completely arbitrary and can't be known without trying your specific machine >costs more than an actual computer with the same iowhy are docks so shit?
>>108444676There are no 30hz monitors.
>>108444254you don't need all that power with you all the time, you do just fine without it when you use a laptop, but at home you have it if you need it
>>108445664I think usbc can handle headphones anon
>>108444157Could be useful to drive an old projector.
>>108444938>docks don't have the bandwidth to support a headset without issues.What are you talking about?Even uncompressed 16bit audio takes up very little bandwidth.You can easily have 16 bit audio out plus 32bit microphone together with 4K video (the one thing that does require a lot of bandwidth) and a bunch of other stuff.
>>108446893>>108446974You say that, but you've clearly not had to support corporate VOIP and encountered headsets miraculously working when plugged into a laptop directly while they had endless errors connected to the dock.>b-but the dock driversNothing else in the dock had issues.
>>108447030USB is USB.I have no idea what kind of garbage you use.
>>108443560
>>10844697416bit audio would be like 0.3% of the bandwidth of USB-C. That anon clearly is talking out of their ass, that's what they're talking about my dude.
>>108443754By the time things on your laptop fails it is probably time to get a new one anyway. If it fails before like 5 years it was shit and don't buy that brand anymore.I don't get how people have these constant issues with their hardware are people just throwing their laptops around like they're books or something? I know they're book shaped but you really should treat them nicer.
>>108443560it is yeah?
There is going to be very little need for a person to have a full on desktop soon.Hell, the average person doesn't even need a desktop or laptop in their personal lives as they can and DO most of their things through their phone.Honestly I think many people would be served perfectly fine if they could just dock their phone. In fact many phone producers are leaving money on the table not doing that. A college student would be perfectly served if they could just dock their phone and use it to do their work. Pretty much all other school kids too.The fact is that laptops and desktops as they are now are really becoming the form factors of people with increasingly more specific needs.
>>108444359Depends on what you want. Most people don't want to do everything through 1 port. I'm all about USB but I don't want my internet for example going through USB vs a native 10gig port.>>108444525I doubt all of that lmao. But I'll fuck you just in case to find out.>>108445560s-video would loved to still be used by retro enthusiasts, no computers or GPU were rockin component lol, some had composite, if you think s-video lowers your options you must be young it was on every gpu back in the day for a reason.
>>108447473You have to be a teenager to think this lmfao. Ain't a single grown ass person with a job doing any work on a phone. You do realize that most people who work use 2-3 monitors at minimum right? It's already a pain in the ass when your org gives you a not powerful enough laptop to work with.
>>108444938just use thunderbolt 5
>>108447507>if you think s-video lowers your options you must be young it was on every gpu back in the day for a reasonNot saying it's bad, just that it seems extremely situational today, you basically need to specifically want to use a TV where the best input available is S-videoI will admit that I'm retarded and forgot to mention VGA, specially since my second monitor (An LG W2243S) is right next to me connected via a DP-VGA adapter, but this ultimately means that for S-video to be the best choice you need>A GPU or laptop with S-video out, but no VGA out>A TV or monitor with S-video out, but no VGA or component in (You can convert VGA to component with no loss in image quality)That is all assuming you want to stay entirely within the analog domain, because for GPUs specifically, pretty much all the ones I've seen with S-video out can also do DVI out, and that can also be converted with no loss to HDMIAlso I'm assuming you want top video quality within a given setup, if you care about sovl and specifically want the sovlfulness of S-video, then this is all irrelevant
My display already has all those ports and charges my laptop.Even then I have a proper desktop.
>>108447628My point is that it's a nice additional port, give me ALL the options, give me DP, HDMI, DVI, VGA, S-Video, Composite, I want all of them always. I want to be able to do everything I need or want to do without having to do goofy work arounds or archaic options. I have 2 screens right next to me who have S-Video going to them and if I could directly do that off a modern system that'd be amazing. Just like I have 2 screens using VGA and a Screen using DP 2.1.
>>108447638Yeah built in monitor KVMs are pretty great. I wish it wasn't usually limited to less than your optional inputs though. I have 3 systems connected to my monitor but I have to use a usb switch on top of my KVM to access one of them.
What's a good cheap one?
My laptop overheats when I try to play multiple video games while also compiling my C++ project while watching twitch and youtube on extra monitors, no THANKS
>>108447473Samsung Dex isn't widespread for a reason anon, for office use you'll always end up with things like>Company needs Excel because they work with another company that uses some esoteric Excel-only formulas (No, they do not work with the Android version of Excel)>Company uses some ancient software where all the devs already died and it doesn't even work through Wine on a desktop running Linux, much less Android>This is all assuming a basic office job, all the same shit people bitch about in Linux applies here as well, unless you wanna count really cut down versions of Adobe shit and FL Studio>But this is all Android issues, if Appl-Apple making a desktop mode for iOS? The same apple that adds an M-series to the iPad yet still ships it with iOS? It's not happening>But I was talking about college students!In the specific scenario where you just need G-suite because you're studying something where your computer is just a glorified typewriter, yes, you sort of have a point. Although for the cost of a dock and peripherals, you could pick up a laptop and have your typing experience be way more pleasant.That being said, I did know a guy who took notes with a keyboard connected to his phone via a C-to-C cable>>108447648You know what? Valid point when it comes to screens. Although for laptops specifically it's a bit excessive. I'm not gonna go and say Apple's "Let's make all ports USB-C and rely on docks/dongles", but dedicating such a huge chunk of a laptop to ports less than 1% of users will use seems silly
>>108447721It's excessive for laptops but I personally don't mind. I want a portable powerhouse and always have. I'm never going to be using a laptop on my lap and hoping it's light and convenient and never have. My first laptop in ~2006 was like an 18" beast with a 7800 in it and all kinds of ports and shit I could use. I carried it around in a giant leather bag and took it to my friends to raid during BC and Wrath when I wasn't home.
>>108447746I think it's a bit too niche of a product, but if a company were to make one, I wouldn't complain. Might even pick one up if cheap enough
>>108447759I think the most common complaint about laptop from literally everyone is the lack of ports. I'm not saying a laptop necessarily needs what I was ranting about (but a desktop does) but they still need more than what they offer today. They took functionality away from us.
>>108447808Oh, 100% on board with more ports, I don't even like charging via USB. Imo the ideal (current) laptop port setup is>1 thunderbolt>3 or 4 USB A>DC jack>Either HDMI, or, preferably, DP>Ethernet>Full size SD card slot, where the car fully goes in>Headphone jack
>>108447898Addendum: VGA out and RS232 serial would also be good, but only for some jobs
>>108447898I actually don't mind USB charging but mostly because barrel plugs don't travel well and I hate having to worry about replacing a specific charger for a laptop. If a USB cable breaks you can just grab another one anywhere.
>>108447948I've seen laptops with both, and honestly, perfect setup. What I hate about USB C is that while it's reversible, jacks can go in literally any way, and they spin so you're not twisting the cable itself if you move (I've broken a few phone chargers this way). The benefit of both is that USB charging can act as a backup (Either temporarily or permanently if literally no one makes your laptop charger anymore)
>>108447551Where the fuck did I say work? I said personal lives and students. What you require for work is a more specific use case.With that being said you aren't going to be using your work issued devices for personal stuff and how much of most people's personal stuff requires more than what their phone can provide?
>>108447721>Samsung Dex isn't widespread for a reason anon.Because apple isn't doing it.You know that if apple made iPhones dockable it would be a far more widespread thing.
>>108448077>You know that if apple made iPhones dockable it would be a far more widespread thingI literally said>Apple making a desktop mode for iOS? The same apple that adds an M-series to the iPad yet still ships it with iOS? It's not happening
>>108448046Anon, I need an even more powerful system when I'm not working, or doing personal work then I would ever need for normal work. No one is replacing their desktop with a phone lmfao. "Yeah man, I had a 5080 for rendering and a nice 9950x for processing but I decided all I really needed was a nice Samsung to handle everything"
>>108443992serial is arguable but s-video was never good, not even when it was still "relevant". vga or bust
>>108448140S-video is better than composite by a long shot, I do wish VGA was just THE standard for all displays because we'd be in a better world though. I always was pissed off that monitors used VGA and TVs always had at best S-video or Component.
>>108443560y'all faggots love to say things like this but never help anyone or tell them how to change their life
>>108443560You're the type of guy to say "Anime is for kids"
>>10844355160hz is unironically the best (non-gaming)120hz is best for gaming
>>108448236Lmao no. If that were true then phones would still be using 60hz screens and saving battery life.
>>108448179Weirdly enough, I did own a TV in like 2012 that had VGA-in, it was labeled "PC-in", which is what I used it for, but I'm surprised1-It wasn't more popular2-Shit like consoles and media players didn't include it (Does the PS2's VGA cable work outside PS2 Linux?)
>>108446848set it to 30hz in control panelotherwise you're wasting compute
>>108443544been hearing this for 15 years now, yet...
>>108448811It's just weird zoomers who grew up with a tablet and phone and don't know how to properly compute or do anything else.
>>108443544>VGAwat
>>108445560The TV I had growing up had S-video no composite 480 lines and S-Video SNES and PS2 cables were a huge upgrade over composite
>>108443544yes and no. while I use my MacBook with 2 external displays I wouldn't want a windows laptop for that because it would self immolate, so I just stick with my desktop for the most part
>>108448918Hey go to this thread >>12458384 and fucking explain that to the retards there.
>>108448947Sorry >>>/vr/12458384
>>108448955Sorry, dude. I grew up
>>108449004What does that even mean, lmfao
>>108443560You try to prove a half-valid a point but 90% of modern day """adults""" are two steps short of cattle, they ironically give a shit about fake AI stories and middle political smoke and mirrors. Shit's getting much worse than videogames. I'm not talking about some freshmen retards but morons in their mid 30's hooking up to some feels-good staged .garbage about getting rich and getting revenge on your awful step brother or whatever.
>>108447721>Samsung DeX isn't widespread for a reasonMeanwhile Google is literally making that a base feature of Android and soon enough every Android phone will have a full Linux shell and desktop mode.
>>108448099>Implying that all OEMs aren't already looking at ways to replace everything with ARM shit to compete with applel>Implying computers and phones won't be the same thing within the next 5 years
>>108443754>at least in the EU where battery swap is returning.any moment now, i swear
>>108449395they just mandated it for the switch 2
>>108449330They won't, retard
>>108443560That sounds like some "my laptop can't play games" cope. Nobody whines when adults enjoy any other narrative format like books, TV shows, movies or plays. Yet we never hear the end of it if when somebody likes games.
>>108443754>Laptops are overpriced trashEspecially now they're all trending toward all soldered RAM. Can't buy a laptop with less and then upgrade it later when you can afford it. And can't put in RAM you already have.
>>108449465Anyone who says shit like "I've grown up" or acts like they're better than people for not enjoying a simple hobby is probably in their early 20s and thinks they've figured it all out.The only thing that means your life isn't in crisis and you're a responsible adult is being responsible. If you pay your bills, and take care of all matters in your life in timely manner and are a respectable person, beyond that nothing else matters or dictates anything about adulthood at all.
>>108448476No. I'm using the hardware I have as intended. However I refuse to pay extra for hardware with capabilities I don't care about. It's that simple.
>>108443544>plug dock into laptop>only one display gets signal>unplug and plug in again>other display is on and mouse and keyboard turn on, but first monitor is now off>unplug and plug in again>only mouse and keyboard turn on>unplug and plug in again>both displays come on, but one is the wrong resolution>unplug and plug in again>both displays come on correctly, but no mouse>unplug mouse from dock and plug back in againGod bless USB docks.
>>108450198I have had similar trouble, turns out the USB-C connector on the captive cable of my Dell """business""" dock was just unreliable dogshit. I've since then gotten a monitor which has USB-C input and USB ports so I can connect shit directly to the monitor and using the cable that just came in the box I have never had a problem. Monitor always works, other USB ports (on the monitor) always work, charging of the connected device always works.
>>108446255Based anon enjoying his life to the fullest. Imagine skipping on video games because some self-proclaimed """adult""" has issues with them.
>>108446255If you feel the need to post this online, your life is probably in shambles and you're sniffing copious amounts of copium.
>>108447422>are people just throwing their laptops around like they're books or something? What kind of barbarian throws books around?
>>108447663Was Sepples invented to sell desktops?
>>108443544> blocks your path
>>108450462laptops were invented to sell PCs to normies
>>108450522"Normie" was invented by r*ddit tourists to avoid saying the "fag" in "normalfag".
>>108448907You'd be surprised how many displays in the corporate world are still VGA. You'd be surprised how many displays are available on the resale and salvage market that use VGA.
>>108451841You'd be surprised at how little desire most people have to put up with that obsolete shit, to the point where they just get a newer monitor with DP/HDMI support.
>>108446848maybe someone still uses bravo
>>108451949Ok kid, let the adults with jobs talk.
>>108452149>all employment consists of plugging vga cables all day
>>108443544had a brain fart and thought it was a tiny computer for a moment
>>108452157>cowshit retarded statement proving he has no clue what the conversation is even aboutDo not post again until you're old enough to have had even a single month of experience working in a corporate office.
>>108452157nta and all that, but lots of rack servers still use vga out, so most crash carts have vga.
>>108452224I miss the days when I thought "working in a corporate office" was a flex.
>>108453588it is not working unless you are paid could not care less about being known as being within corporation
>>108453588>flexDumb zoomer. All you're doing is showing you have no experience in the working world and are somehow proud of being stupid.
>>108453588It still is, and always will be. Most office work these days are so mundance and you're average earnings is higher than anyone busting their ass all day in a blue collar job.
>>108453588Oh but it still is....in India where he sits behind his VGA monitor sipping cow piss.
>>108450918>normalnormiethat doesn't make sense
ngl. for 12 euros it was pretty good.
>>108456961I have a similar one from Inland for my steamdeck.
>>108452157>tfw started in corporate job, a lot of projectors required VGA>laid off during recession, went to med school>VGA fucking EVERYWHERE on medical equipment that requires displays>start working as a doctor at a drug rehab>VGA everywhere I'm going to have to agree with that anon. VGA is still a very big part of the "working world". It's everywhere, from corporate jobs, to medical, to construction, to factories, even retail. Anywhere you need a connector that can be screwed in and not pulled/vibrated/shaken loose because the data on the display is critical to your job function, you'll see VGA.
>>108458199It's still like the most common way monitors are connected pretty much anywhere I've been. Even if the computers have hdmi they have vga and shit on them still or a GPU or a fucking converter attached.
>>108458199There's also the simpler answer of "It still works">You have a 720p projector that uses VGA and it still works?Why change it? You're not watching movies, you're showing powerpoint presentations>Medical equipment for displaying graphs and numbers and it still works?Why change it? It's graphs and numbers, it's more than legible>Computer where the person using it is just inputting patient data and it still works?Why change it? It's more than enough to display your program's interface, and things like color accuracy again, are unimportantScrews are a nice bonus, but they're not unique to VGA
>>108453765>>108456060>triggered wageslaves
>>108443560It's a tech demo not a vidya
>>108444525>Younger>StrongerOh to be ignorant again. Oh to be blissful once more.
>>108460021For 99% of people, growing old only fossilizes their views without granting them much additional knowledge.
>>108443544>VGAWhat century do you think this is?
>>108443551do you need more?
>>108460864One where you still have to connect your laptop to an older projector that's installed in a conference room.
>>108448282modern phones are ball and chain algo heroin drip feeders they farm people with though, of course they blast people with higher rates, it helps feed the addiction
>>108462387The higher rates don't matter for intaking short form content though. 30hz is fine for watching videos nonstop
>>108462409Yes but 30Hz won't drain the battery faster, which won't cause more charge cycles, which won't cause the phone to be useless right around the time it's out of warranty.
>>108463917It doesn't have to, the doomscrolling will handle that for you.
>>108447043Ask your favorite LLM about interrupt, bulk, and isochronous pipes, and stop being a fool
