ditch systemd asap
>>108445053how
I am working on it I am used to gnome so using a new de and a new init is a bit of a learning curve I tried runit but starting and adding services to boot seems overly complicated openrc is much better but I am still having some issues using my encrypted disks on new a new de I have tried xfce and mate I prefer xfce so far I am a noob I have been using archinstall with gnome for about a year and before that pop os so I am used to systemd and gnome and it has made me retarded
>>108445076services are bloat
>>108445085I used my laptop as a samba server for my smart TVs so I need samba to run at boot and to be reliable I have got it running easy enough on openrc runit was just a fat pain in the ass I just want a different de now though I might try one of those minimal window managers or something the laptop I only used for torrents, samba, web browsing and light programming
>>108445076>I tried runit but starting and adding services to boot seems overly complicatedmaking a symlink is complicated?
>>108445112For me yes I don't know the commands and I ask ai and it just tells me a load of shit so I check wikis but they aren't helping eitherI am overwhelmed by this shit
>>108445053Stop this retarded behaviour you fucking dumbfucks, you do not even understand the technology. Systemd hatred is a microsoft psyop to weaken linux adoption and cause infighting. More than 90 percent of you retards latch on to the hatred to appear knowledgeable when you know jack shit. Kill yourself
GNU/Trisquel will provide a cleanup script, the same way they do for the kernel to create Linux-libre. SystemLibre.
>>108445076try dinit, its service manager works almost the same way as systemd, most of the time you just need to replace "systemctl" with "dinitctl" in your commands kek>>108445105>I used my laptop as a samba serverone of my laptops is used as a samba and jellyfin server. samba was pretty straightforward, my distro (Artix) has packages for all the inits it supports for samba so you just need to install it and enable the service. for jellyfin there's jellyfin-runit on the AUR to add the service files. I'm on dinit so I had to look but there's one on the Artix forums so I just had to copy-paste it into a file and enable it
>>108445190Yes I have installed artix I am on the weekly community version with xlibre it is fine so far I will probs swap to stable dinit if the commands are almost identical
>>108445076hahahahahahahahahahahahahahajust give upthis is beyond you nowonce you go gnome, you can't come backgnome makes you retarded and there is no way to fix yourselfyou are a gnomie nowebussy won
>>108445213sudo dinitctl enable [service] to enable a servicesudo dinitctl disable [service] to disable itsudo dinitctl restart [service] to restartdinitctl list to see a list of running servicessame commands without sudo for user services that shouldn't run as root (like pipewire/wireplumber)that's it for the basics
>>108445278Nice ty
Remember back when SystemD was first forced into every distro under the sun? Remember how some people said this was a bad idea (for many reasons) and you called us conspiracy theorists?You made your own bed.
>>108445213Is artix alright compared to normgroid arch?
>>108445323other than different inits and not supporting shit with systemd dependencies it really doesn't feel different than Archalso you can install it the Arch way but there's a GUI installer too
>>108445053>to preserve ai readinessdo you think the jeets think that readiness means ability to read or that it's ready to be used kek?
>>108445053SystemD really is a Microsoft nest right now. The schizos were right and this was a trojan horse to the Linux community the whole time.
>>108445158Haven't seen anything in systemd that may need cleaning up. But I disagree with parts of the systemd documentation referring to GNU/Linux as a "Linux system".https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.htmlAlthough the FSDG only states that propaganda terms aught to be avoided in discussions and public statements from the distro.
>>108445053yeah I'd also close your slop PR
>>108445076>runit but starting and adding services to bootReally? Runit seems like the simplest and most easy to understand init system of all. Its manual is so refreshingly easy to read. Although I suppose manuals are a no-go for zoomers and younger.>>108445125Feed the manual to the AI and it should be good to go. Even search.brave.com's AI is giving good answers about runit in my experience.>>108445085Knower.>>108445213Good choices.
>>108445359Damn I didn't think of it this way. But what could the mean? Maybe it's because AIs should be able to use Linux, and they don't have a birthdate, so maybe this is humanist or something.
God, I'm sure glad I don't have to write bash scripts anymore!
>>108445135Saaaaaar.............????
>>108445076>filtered by runitYeah man, gg, just buy an iPad. Computers are out of your league.
>>108445859>SystemdalitKek, I will use that now
>>108445053the war was lost a long ago, way before I even joined the frayit's almost impossible to not use systemd now
>>108445579Uhhh... based Lennart?
>>108445053nah, im good. i know how to build systemd without userdb
>>108445954>it's almost impossible to not use systemd nowEh? It's as easy as installing Gentoo.
>>108445125Don't worry anon, you'll get there.Check out Void's docs on the matter:https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/services/index.html
it's like carding you to leave your house because you might visit the pornography store
I've only ever used openrc. Can someone unironically tell me what I've missed out on by not using systemd?
>>108445991Ok this is quite perfect way to put it
Everyone with a github account needs to make a PR like this. Don't let them just ram this through and get off scott-free
>>108445859>systemdalitkek
>>108445053xorg + dwm + st + initrc i will be using lfs (btw)
>>108445323you tell me
>>108446006openrc on Arch?howto plshelp!!!
>>108445991what if my house is a pornography store, and i have kids? should i card my kids to enter the house?
>>108445135Doesn't Poettering literally work for Microsoft?
>>108448066On Artix you can choose the iso with the init you want. Yes even openrc
>>108448066https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Migration
>>108448101>>108448119>>108448066>on Arch linux (btw)can't you read?
>>108448190can you? open the link and read, retard
>>108445053Yeah no. I'm not wrecking years of tweaks, settings custom configs, and everything to switch distros only for it not matter in a year when the Internet is completely locked down without your verification token. You go right ahead and do that and then come back here in a year and screech how you can access anything online because OS can't supply the required token.Have fun!
>>108445954I don't really get what's so special about systemd that people can't just switch to other inits. I use a lot of custom systemd services on my desktop, they mostly do nothing other than call my bash scripts that do everything else.
>>108445053So how do I rip systemd out of proxmox?
>>108448245Such an internet is not worth to "come back" to. Enjoy your digital prison together with all the normoids.
>>108445076>I am used to gnome so using a new de48 still works and is packaged in most non-systemd distros, whether that'll be the case further down the line though, idk.
I'm on MX Linux rubbing KDE Plasma and loving the ever living shit out of this experience. I left windows going a little over 2 years now and I'm in heaven. I learned about SystemD and immediately saw that the CIA was behind it and trying to push this current looming eventuation.
>>108448267fork it and name it "Proxless"in fact. ill make the logo
>>108445112yes it is actually. I've done it before, but, I definitely needed a tutorial to tell me what to do.
>>108444444
>>108448245Heeeey girls, it's me, Luca Bussyassi... Or bluca on github. Want to play?
>>108448509wasted get
>>108448091He left and started his own company
>>108445074Uhhh... I just modified the grub bootloader to have linux run a bash script as init. init="/myscript.sh"works for me, but you gotta call all the services in that script, including ttys
>>108448690Lol nice.
>>108445954I can ask claude how to switch of systemD in five minutes.I’ve already used it to switch off grub.
Poetternig
>>108445190dinit is also, last I checked, the fastest and least bloated. Feel free to correct me
>>108445337No archinstall = toy imitation OSNot sorryGui installers are worthless.user_configuration.json wins
>>108448260>I made stuff that does nothing and I don't understand, please help me!2-br0-dhcp.network[Match]Name=br0[Network]DHCP=ipv4MulticastDNS=yesNo ahavi needed.
[Match]Name=br0[Network]DHCP=ipv4MulticastDNS=yes
>>108449234> We replaced it guys! Just use a different init!> I totally forgot what an /etc/interfaces and a chrontab are guys, just run obsolete shit that everyone was too lazy to replace for the past 10 years!
>>108448267>>108448502I'm all for it, but would it really matter on servers if the age field exists? Would Plex or Jellyfin ask for your age during install?Doubt the underaged little shits would bother running a homelab anyway, all they know is fortnite tiktok and shitWith that said, might spend a weekend migrating my lxcs and vms to devuan but keep my host node as-is
>>108445312Who cares? You people should have made a replacement instead of relying on obsolete duct tape shoved into protest distributions run by grifters. Who's gonna sleep in what bed made by whom?
This is armageddon, btw. This happens to everything and everybody.6 7Pick one.
>>108445076why did you shit talk me back in 2013? why did you call me an incel for using openrc? why don't you suddenly like you dadddy government?
>>108445076I nearly told you "just install gentoo" unironically and I've just realized that is actually a decent learning curve. I think I just didn't notice how unusual the way I use computers has gotten. To the Gnome users, smartphone users, people who run non-free software, and everyone who thought "I just want to read my email":Good luck, you're going to need it.
>>108449319I probably should have just recommended converting to Orthodoxy than repeat the 6 7 meme. I felt reprimanded in doing so. The point remains. All of this is going away. They'll destroy it just to perturbate your resentment. People are going to take the mark of the beast for cigarettes.
>>108448040How long until it comes out he's a nonce? The most outspoken are usually guilty of it.
>>108448040>>108449370Is there anything this "nous" guy might be doing for the sight of others? Nobody else gets a "fellow kids" from this dude?
>>108449387No I don't get that vibe at all.
>>108449393Calling yourself "nous" in order to appear a certain way, publicly, is a predatory strategy, not a vibe.
>>108445053Install Gentoo
>>108445323I prefer Void. Void has a LOT of broken package but doesn't often break your system like Artix
>>108449387>>108449393>>108449398The ironic thing is that Orthodox Christianity, the religion where the "nous" comes from, suggest to beware people who do things for the sight of others, particularly when those things make them appear religious or faithful.
>>108446006Not getting rug pulled by having basic system behavior change all the time and then getting gaslit when you complain about it.OpenRC was what people actually wanted when they said sysvinit had issues.
>>108449408We'll I'm Protestant and have no idea what you're talking about.
>>108449429Read the Gospels even once, then. Should be the only part you even know. Who gives long greetings in the marketplace? Who prays and cries in the sight of others in public to appear pious?
>>108449435I think he's just another person who wants a working computer, he doesn't even show his face.
funny people are like how??? in this threadthere are so many fucking ways you can init services
>>108445859lost
what is even going on the OP pic, I don't get it?but anyway if it's about the age verification shit, then yeah I was already not cool with systemd but this is the final nail, I am now actively looking at getting away from this shit.these cunts don't understand there are always going to be alternatives.
>>108445076why does this post have so many replies
>>108445135Oh, I just avoid it because I hate Harry Poettering.
>>108449234Idk what you mean by that, on my screenshot I demonstrate port forwarding service for my VPN and other services that provide comfy UX for switching between wireguard VPN configs. I use this on my Bazzite gaming desktop. Idk what this has to do with DHCP or whatever you showcased. My VPN provider only supports port forwarding through natpmp. No idea what avahi is, but I heard that before for sure. Never used.
>>108450153a gnome user fails to comprehend symlinks
>>108448605>>108448091It gets worse, he started his own company whose sole purpose for existing just happens to be consulting on things like this so he can prove for companies that they are in compliance with the laws, etc. Conflict of interest much?https://tboteproject.com/git/hekate/microsoft-systemd-findings-public/src/branch/main/08-conflict-of-interest-analysis.md
>>108445053Artix Linux Masterrace reporting in
>>108450134>I am now actively looking at getting away from this shit.nosystemd dot org
>>108450586>I dont have to provide any ID on my W11 shit OSMicrosoft doesn't need your ID, they have telemetry in everything and they already know everything they need to know about you. If you think you've stopped the telemetry, install NetLimiter, change all permissions to "Ask" and come back to me after 24 hours of usage, if you haven't already switched to Linux by realizing how many things that you didn't know even exist STILL call home for who knows what reason.Windows users trying to throw stones from their glass house is top kek.
>>108450863hahahahhaYOU will have STATE MANDATED ID verification in Linux before anyone ever does so with Mac or Windows the cope being that "they already know everything chud! they dont even need it lolol"kek
>>108445053Why
>>108450877>YOU will have STATE MANDATED ID verification in Linux before anyone ever does so with Mac or WindowsFirst of all, I'm not using SystemD, fag, and anyone can switch to a systemd-free distro at any time.Second, you know that how exactly? You think Microsoft and Apple won't comply to the law?Third, once Microcock implements this I'd love to see you switch to an alternative Windows distro. Oh wait... you can't. kek
>>108450877>the cope being that "they already know everythingExplain to me how they don't already know everything about you. Give me a tour of all the measures against telemetry you've taken.
>>108450962>dance for me monkeyhahahhahahahaha"no".Btw I do NOT have to provide STATE MANDATED ID to verify my age Linux fellah>>108450951dont worry. it will come to all distros. Suse, Arch, Debian, etc
>>108445053 hk m systemd |grep userdb/usr/share/zsh/site-functions/_userdbctldon't care userdb stuff doesn't even exist on my system.
hk m systemd |grep userdb/usr/share/zsh/site-functions/_userdbctl
>>108450996>Btw I do NOT have to provide STATE MANDATED ID to verify my age LinuxMe neither. The difference is that I will never have to, while once M$ implements this, you will, or you'll switch to the same OS as mine.>dance for me monkeyOK so you have done jack shit to stop telemetry, you don't even know how much telemetry there's left and what microcock knows about you, and when asked for an explanation you say it's the same ask being a dancing monkey. Wow you're truly a fag.>dont worry. it will come to all distros. Suse, Arch, Debian, etcKek says who? This is hilarious cope. Yes I am sure that that the thousands of BSDs and Linux distros will ALL comply because the normie linux user on 4chin said so. Please take the microcock out of your mouth and explain better your reasoning. And no this isn't me asking you to dance, it's me asking you to substantiate your pathetic bait that I'm so far entertaining just because it allows me to shit on M$ even more.
just vibe code your own init system
>>108445053why?
>>108450153all me
>>108445074Artix, Devuan, Gentoo, Alpine, MX Linux, antiX, Void. Pick your poison and stick with it. Be warned that Alpine and Void are trooned.
>>108452343all of those except Artix and Devuan are trooned. most of Linux is trooned at this point.
>>108449398or perhaps it's just his last name
>>108449408You are conflating compassion with tolerance.
>>108445053Why do microsoft employees have this much control over FOSS?
>>108445076I am the guy who made this post.It's all sorted now I installed void everything was pretty plain sailing.I am going to use Artix xlibre weekly build with runit on my gaming rig I am getting used to xfce it is quite good actually.
>>108452716EEE
>>108449142>No archinstall = toy imitation OSarchinstall is primitive compared to https://github.com/MasterGenotype/Deploytix...but I bet you've already submitted ID documents everywhere
>>108452305Based.
>>108452416Yeah, where you been, anons? Entire Linux industry is trooned. Windows too--and macos. And you know what else? The Thai sex industry
>>108448245>we will shut down infrastructure we don't understand or even have an idea of its reach unless you identify yourselfYou better not be sponging off my tax money
>>108449387>might be doing for the sight of others?In what 4th world english textbook is this taught as a phrase anyone uses in any country?
>>108448740>when you license your application with +N license, you preserve your freedom and render your project unsuitable for Enterprise takeover.
>You faggots used to laugh at me
