It's not a kitty, but doggy is good too.

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>my WMP library decided now is the time to reset itself
>deleting all the metadata for the hundreds of songs it actively refused to imprint onto them
>and with the "find album info" function dead I can't easily re-label them
dammit

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Help me out MS Office bros.
Installed Office Home recently and when typing in word it does this weird motion blur or judder type effect, hard to describe but it's annoying as hell and it perceptually slows down my typing. How can I disable this shit and have it be normal? as it would be in notepad or any text editor.
Also does the whole thing of having to sign in every 30 days to validate your license if you're primarily signed out apply for Office Home or just 365?

>>108451622
Office 2003 is a bit old these days. Office 2010 is the oldest one that you can easily still activate.

>>108451694
I'm using the latest one, I just used that image as a throwback

>>108451725
If you activate with Ohook via MAS you don't really need to think about that kind of shit because it just stays activated forever.

>>108451622
Setup a vm and reinstall it, backup the vm in a tar before running office. Once you run out of days save your docs outside the vm, delete it and extract the backup to start over again. Use virtual printing, msxps doc writer or print to pdf to get around any issues you have with unsupported drivers.

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>>108451616
>Try Musicbee's Album Info Function
>better in some ways, worse in others
Yes I know of mp3tag. No, I don't like it, even more confusing to deal with. I just wished Musicbee synced with WMP's libraries

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>Send laptop for repair (manufacturer warranty)
>Specifically tell them not to update it to Win11
>They agree to not update it to Win11
>Receive laptop back
>They updated it to Win11.

AAAAAAARRRGGHHH.
Can I go back? Should I just pirate 10 Pro or are they only supporting that for a year? I don't use a local account and do use some microslop features like the game bar and store

>>108451336
this dog (who was not your friend) has been dead for 20+ years

>>108452818
commercial esu supports 22h2 w10 until october 2028
iot ltsc 2021 supports 21h2 w10 until january 2032

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>>108452818

>>108452818
advice going forward, always either remove the drive or put in a blank filler drive for warranty repairs. it was standard practice at my previous job. NEVER trust them not to do random shit; sometimes they'll even just outright wipe it.

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I love Windows!

>>108453070
this game was waaay too stressful for kid me

>>108452909
Thank you! Which one do people generally go for if you still want regular updates but don't want to deal with Windows 11 and how shit it is? I doubt Win11 is usable even by 2028 honestly. After 10 support ends it might honestly be time to try linux because I don't see how 11 can be turned around.

My only concern is all the latest drivers for my Laptop or Win11 based. The WIn10 ones are super old

>>108452923
kek

>>108452946
I expected them to wipe it, they always do. But when I make sure beforehand not to update the OS and they tell me they won't, man it's shitty receiving this back. I didn't have a blank ssd unfortunately.

I've given linux mint a legit try for a few months but it's not for me, what's the easiest way to make a USB stick for installing W10? I heard Ventoy was untrustworthy due to alleged chinese influence and not being fully open source.

>>108453179
considering your use it's probably better to change edition to enterprise and enable esu
in october 2028 check mydigitallife forums and install bypassesu to use ltsc updates until jan 2032

>>108452643
I found MP3tag confusing too but believe me anon it's worth learning it.

>>108453843
rufus

Ventoy got canceled? wtf is this world

>>108453973
presumably he's on linux, i don't believe rufus is available on linux

>>108453977
It's not, and I am.

should I allow Defender inbound and outbound traffic or is that some botnet shit. I don't want it to upload samples and I don't trust it even though I hve that off in local policy editor

>>108453843
Installing Linux on Windows is easy as fuck but installing Windows on Linux is a kind of tricky, one time I was stuck at setup part because Windows 11 couldnt detect drivers so I had to use another computer to installing drivers and drag those driver files on my USB, eventually it started working. As for Ventoy, I've used it to reinstall Windows 11 and didnt have any problems with it.

Oh man. What a headache installing windows 10 ltsc on a thinkpad was. But very worth it. Sitting at 13% ram usage during idle instead of 30%.
Learned that a fresh install essentially broke all the laptop functionality, had to install the entire thinkvantage lenovo package and got my touchpad, fingerprint, scanner, mic, and camera working again.

But my sleep function is still busted, won't turn on after I put it to sleep. Any idea what could be wrong? I already turned over power sleep and it won't wake up after going to sleep.

>>108453843
What Ventoy went through was just focused racist bullying because of the zxutils drama focusing on a malicious chinese dev.

>>108455268
Yeah that's how it is. Next time you do something like this you should probably run a DISM command to extract all the OEM drivers into a folder so you can just install them all back again after getting IoT LTSC installed.

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Should I use SDIO to install/update my drivers?

>>108456466
You can if you want. It's great if you need a networking driver that you can't find manually.

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>>108451336
I just want to thank the person who maintains this thread and the pasta, as it is continuously updated with new information.

I think it's one of the best guides on /g/ right now.

>>108456954
It's legit one of the main reasons why I don't mind using Windows these days because it's so easy to actually reign in.

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>>108456954
/fwt/ runs /g/

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>>108456993
trufax

>>108456116
Yellow fingers typed this post.

>>108451336
>>108452824
That dog was euthanised by the photographer after it bit his baby daughter in the face. It was not a friendly dog for a friendly thread.

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So my internet died yesterday. I riced my win11 to look like win7. Had to hotspot from my phone for somethings rest were downloaded on my phone and then copied over. Pain. Pretty happy with the result. Let me know if u know of any better ricing tech to make it feel more sovlful.
[spoiler]Yes I know that's a vista wallpaper. Im going to be sad when winblows eventually updates and ruins my rice.[/spoiler]

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>>108457539
spoiler didnt work :(

>>108452824
>>108457448
tf r u guys on about

>>108457539
shit that vista wallpaper is nice, i might steal it for some of my stuff just because i like it

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>>108458177
Here you go anon. I have a few stock windows wallpapers from 7 and vista. If u want i can upload them to catbox when my internet gets fixed.

>>108458540
ty

>>108457539
>Having F.lux installed
Doesn't Windows have this shit build in now?

When's the next release preview update for 25h2 LTSC? The current one gives me buggy dpi scaling.

>>108459180
no such thing as 25h2 ltsc, if you forced 25h2 it gives you gac updates

>>108459180
Anon the next LTSC will be based on 27H2.

do thinkpads not clamshell by default on windows or is something software-related outdated, like maybe thinkvantage or something? fedora at least switches to the external monitor when i shut the lid, but earlier today at work i had to dig into power options for the lid to do nothing so it doesn't sleep.

asked this earlier on /tpg/ but i figure it'd also be suited here since i'm not all too familiar with how 11 pro handles things.

>>108459308
On Windows you need to go into Control Panel power settings and tell it to do nothing when you close the lid, though naturally the screen will stay on when closed and might get hotter then usual.

>>108459308
Didn't Microsoft break sleeping in Windows 11?
Normally this should effect "new" PCs this is why I have my laptop set to Hibernation instead.

>>108459308
i believe the default lid-shutting behavior is sleep for battery and do nothing for powered but don't quote me on that. it should also duplicate to external monitors by default.

>>108459341
>though naturally the screen will stay on when closed and might get hotter then usual.
no it won't. you can pretty easily test that; the screen turns off the moment the lid gets low enough, it doesn't even have to be all the way down. the "do nothing" just sets it not to sleep.

>>108459343
they fixed some sleep bugs recently, as far as i know it works fine right now.

honestly though, unless you really have a strong need to do otherwise, my advice to most people is do a proper shutdown with fast startup disabled.

>>108459346
it duplicates, yea, but i wanted to sorta dock the laptop and just rely on the external monitor with my peripherals attached, which is when it went blank upon closing the lid and reopening sent me straight back to the lock screen. kinda miffed that it isn't as smooth like linux or mac in that regard

>>108451622
Open Office For Ya...!!!

>>108459416
it's supposed to be as long as you've changed the setting. if it's still sending you back to the lock screen despite that, it's probably a bug.

>>108459419
>Open Office For Ya...!!!
>Last release 2025
I didn't know it was still maintained last time I checked they stopped development for a while.

>>108459070
f.lux has a feature to make monitors dimmer when not using fullscreen apps with a keyboard shortcut. very useful when watching movie or playing vidya

>>108459291
>>108459304
Let me rephrase, whens the next update past 26200.8106?

>>108460054
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/author/windows-insider-program-team/
next month

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>>108460476
dam okay you have a nice day

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woke up to a bunch of password change emails, and I'm pretty sure I know how they got in (downloaded too many porn games, ran something that didn't quite look right but it was late and all my blood was in my lower brain, no one to blame but myself). ran malwarebytes on c: but it came up clean. it's possible it's on one of the other drives so I'll scan those too, but in the meantime is there a better tool than mb these days? or do attackers tend to just lift login credentials without leaving stuff behind now? I've already ended my sessions and signed out of anything important, but I don't want to log back in on the computer if they're just gonna pull it agian

>>108460900
it's a common practice that infostealers delete everything to avoid traces. those that leave processes running are usually botnets for crypto and other stuff.

If you still have those executables, you could try and scan them with your antivirus or better, use VirusTotal to see what kind of shit they bundled with it.

Unfortunately there's not a one size fits all solution when it comes to viruses, because they tend to tamper with files, registry, policies, cache, you name it, aside from malwarebytes, there's some one time scan tools from kaspersky and also eset iirc they should come in handy. Also pay attention to your running proceses and connections, you can use the sysinternals suite, procmon for the processes, TCPview for connections and autoruns for startup processes.

Unfortunately if you want full peace of mind, there's not other option than to clean install Windows

>>108461156
already deleted the files last night, which yeah in retrospect I should have held on to them, but oh well. noticed mb has a more intensive "deep scan" option these days, and I'm running that now and it's gotten a hit already, so I'll feel a bit better once that's done. I use bitwarden for all my passwords and signed out of my email and amazon accounts, so I think I'll be ok, but I'll definitely keep an eye on everything. the password changes were all for old accounts I didn't even remember making, like EA and ubisoft, and like, they can have them idgaf

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I deleted game bar and all the xbox bullshit, and now it screams at me every time I launch a video game.
Someone said it disappeared after a while for them, not for me.
How do I get rid of it.

>>108461894
Pretend it isn't there

>>108460900
grab sysinternals autoruns and run it, check anything under logon or scheduled tasks. if you can't verify that it's supposed to be there, disable it; if it's obviously not supposed to be there, delete it.

>>108461894
try this, someone mentioned it a few threads back https://aka.ms/GamingRepairTool

>>108461894
No, that's because games call a protocol that links to an "Windows App" {Microsoft's term} doesn't exist, the best way I know to not get it is to make a stub.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ms-gamingoverlay]
@="URL:ms-gamingoverlay Protocol"
"URL Protocol"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ms-gamingoverlay\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ms-gamingoverlay\shell\open]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ms-gamingoverlay\shell\open\command]
@="rundll32.exe ntdll.dll,RtlExitUserProcess"

This launches an instance of rundll32.exe and kills it at the same time, stupid but there isn't much to do here.

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>>108462030
gave it a gander and there's nothing really that stands out to me too much. I recognize most things in here, and the stuff I don't also appears in an unrelated computer's results as well, so they're probably benign, including that not verified microsoft one for the old windows media player. the only maybe questionable one is that ms edge autolaunch since I don't see it in the unrelated computer's results, but it's also timestammped from back in october, and I know modern windows uses edge for shit under the hood so who knows. everything else appears to be normal microsoft office/windows junk or amd junk

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>>108461894

>>108462030
>>108462210
>>108462698
Nothing worked.
But this did work.

reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GameDVR /f /t REG_DWORD /v "AppCaptureEnabled" /d 0
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\GameConfigStore /f /t REG_DWORD /v "GameDVR_Enabled" /d 0

Thanks anyway

>>108462533
yeah looks fine to me

>>108462872
thanks for the info, i have this issue too

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>>108451336
I want to install Windows XP on an old thinkpad just to play old games, install the software i used as a kid, and rice it the way i riced. I do not intent to use Internet on it, but do want to use connect on my LAN.
How do you install XP these days? Microslop's official XP or some bootleg? What do you install to make XP usable in current year?

>>108463474
You can use the website os(dot)click to download an XP Professional ISO and then burn it to a CD to install it to a system. You can then update it properly using Legacy Update and use xp_activate32 to actually activate it.

ltsc 2024 is working alright for me, mainly using it for gaming, beats having to troubleshoot linux games 24/7 and modding is really easy now

>>108463627
I mean it's pretty much just 11 Enterprise with nothing much included and updates until mid 2030.

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yall updooting?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/march-26-2026-kb5079391-os-builds-26200-8116-and-26100-8116-preview-7c9e2275-b9ba-4068-aeb0-23da42b81d3b

>>108463762
I never install preview updates. I'll wait till patch tuesday as usual.

>>108463769
>I never install preview updates. I'll wait till patch tuesday as usual.
This.

>>108463762
I will because I'm INSANE

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ok so i am getting a new pc for the first time since 2014 (4790k)
i am currently using w10 ltsc iot
are there any real noticeable improvements to switching to w11 (i assume i can get it free like i did with w10 ltsc)
i mostly play games and do very little else that isnt officework

>>108467401
nothing that thousands of youtubers didn't cover already

>>108467401
There is, W11 is better for vidya in terms of input lag and responsiveness.
You don't necessarily perceive this if you have a high end computer but there's nothing wrong with 24h2 iot ltsc.
Just patch explorer menus and use the standard oosu10, gpedit and some firewall software.

>>108453070
this game filtered me in a good way

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>reboot W10 PC
>Hey we're forcibly installing W11 on your PC, no you can't cancel it.
>But you can keep using W10 while the 'upgrade' downloads :)
how do I cancel this shit? am I doomed?

>>108467802
>he's not using ltsc
point and laugh gentlemen

>>108467804
I use ltsc on new installs but I've had this computer for 10+ years and didn't want to bother/risk fucking stuff up
I am now paying for my laziness

Is it weird if my notebook starts lagging when I have a game opened and alt+tab? I dunno if it speaks of its performance, or if it's doing a good job to focus on the game rather than the tab. For example typing this right now there is a slight delay between my fingers on the keys and the letters on the screen. Additonally sometimes the game's BGM in the background sometimes lags too.

>>108467890
a bit. maybe the background stuff is lagging when the game is active too but the game itself isn't and only lags when it's in the background?

>>108467930
Yes, no game so far has lagged while playing it. And the background window can run youtube for music without issue so far.
I haven't tested with anything other than Warframe but at very least it loaded the mission faster than my brother on PS5.

>>108463474
I'd just install Integral Edition desu

>>108467890
>>108467936
is this on windows 11?

>>108468203
Yes. LTSC

>>108451336
Is Windows Blinds still fun to use?

That "cloning" Windows thing when you replace your SSD isn't the official solution, right? Because you need third-party software to do that.
What does Microsoft expect us to do when our SSD gets old and we want to replace it? Is the idea to reinstall Windows as if it were a brand-new PC, and import the old settings somehow?

>>108468837
Microsoft expects you to backup your files to another device (usb, ssd, phone, partition, cloud) and then restore it after you clean install to a new drive.

You can also do a "In-Place Upgrade". It keeps all your files but repairs/upgrades your Windows using the provided iso.
https://youtu.be/CAOwN68AInE

>>108468837
>What does Microsoft expect us to do when our SSD gets old and we want to replace it?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/transfer-your-files-and-settings-to-a-new-windows-pc-57b8d163-d80e-44fe-8247-62f7cf84a8ed

>>108468837
Back then there was a tool created for Windows 7 which was basically that, a cloning tool with a few caveats, iirc it still works in W10 but it's deprecated in W11.

For consumers MS pretty much just gives you Windows Backup, but it's not cloning, it's just saving data and settings on the cloud and then restore them, in theory sounds convenient but you just know it's another hook to use an MS account and sell you OneDrive

For enterprise there's also not a straightforward solution, most approaches are more advanced backup and restore solutions aimed at deployments at a larger scale, there are options but require researching to understand them.

At this point they probably don't want to make one because there's just too many tools already that use Windows' own APIs to create system images. Not to mention other options like clonezilla which are very fool-proof these days

reading the op, win10 ltsc sounds like it keeps getting windows updates? ive been using normal win10 for 5 years and manually turned off shit like defender and windows update. if i install ltsc will i have to manually turn that stuff off again? also i was reading about atlas os a while ago but i dont see that in the op anywhere i assume that shit sucks?

>>108469147
not updating ltsc defeats the purpose, it's just worse windows this way

>>108469147
yes it still does, it only gets monthly security updates and the occasionally out-of-band update, the difference between LTSC and regular 10 is that LTSC doesn't get feature updates.

However, now that 10 is EOL, regular 10 also only gets security updates through ESU

Atlas OS is very divisive, if you do light tasks and occasional gaming, then it might be ok, but in the end it's still a very stripped down Windows, you have to trust the reliability to a small team of devs

>>108469147
the whole point of using ltsc is to get updates until 2032. if you are actively avoiding updates then just keep doing whatever you're doing.

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>>108468235
holy fuck is that still a thing? I haven't heard that name in years

>>108469297
>AtlasOS
meh, shit by default since it uses 11 as the base, this NTLite guide on their forum with only registry keys and UI tweaks is much better if you're gayming or need to use Windows specific programs.
>https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/guide-optimized-image.2990/
11GB of storage, extremely low-latency in both audio and games, only downside is that it's security is wayyyy behind (May 2023), so I wouldn't recommend this one for anything other than games or browsing.

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Redpill me on picrel

>>108470088
Do you need that explained to you? It's pretty easy to understand.

>>108470088
good

>>108470088
The security cert on older drivers expire and Windows will only accept modern certs. This is already a deal on Nvidia where older cards don't work on Windows anymore and require custom drivers aka bootleg cert. AMD is the same. Linux doesnt have to deal with any of this.

>>108470101
At this point it feels like older Nvidia cards need to have their drivers installed via NVCleanstall.

>>108461894
Go to the xbox page on settings to untick everything overlay related

>>108470130
Already fixed it.
>>108462872

>>108470117
Yeah the package is bloated. You only need the wddm driver and audio driver which is like 200mb tops. The rest of the 1-2gb is just bloatware such as telemetry, GeForce app, and more.

>>108470101
to be fair, MS is very on edge since the crowdstrike incident, they realized they can't even trust security experts to keep the kernel secured, less so Nvidia and AMD

>>108470148
It's why I never use the "normal" way to install the drivers and just use NVCleanstall for all my Nvidia driver installing. It's just so much fucking lighter.

>>108470148
same thing with amd nowadays
>Radeon Software Slimmer
>remove everything except display driver and settings
>driver only install
>enjoy your minimal and functional GPU

>>108470155
Some cheat makers use bootleg drivers to load their exploits as the anti cheat is looking for suspicious executables and has no reason to poke a "trusted driver".

>>108470088
openrgb bros our time has come

>>108468174
What's the officiallest download page? There are a lot of Integral Edution ISOs on archive.org from different users, and crustywindo.ws does not even list/archive it.

my parents have a really old PC (like core 2 duo old), should I install 7 or 10 LTSC on it? they'll only use it for youtube and pinterest

>>108470788
Best you get that would still work fine is IoT LTSC 2021, or even 2019.

Is there a guide to switch from Linux to Windows
I'm 18 now and trying to switch my dads computer

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>>108471184
>I'm 18
...................

>>108451336
Is there any reason to use W10 LTSC instead of W10 LTSC IoT?

>>108471637
Not particularly. Using LTSC 2021 these days is exactly like using GAC 10 22H2 now the ESU is in effect.
You use IoT LTSC 2021 because you get an extra five years of support.

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>>108451336
Windows Update continues to download some Realtek driver that fucks up how things sound on my computer. I turned off the driver updates with Winhance but it still kept doing that. I had to resort to the old ways of completely killing off this service.
Is there a way to install security updates via update packs, like it was possible on Win 7? Simplix was great.

>>108471184
Father here: stop messing with my computer.

>>108471655
Go into Device Manager and find the HWID for the audio device that the Realtek driver keeps getting re-installed over and use group policy to disable driver updates specifically for it.
And yes you can download patch tuesday updates via Microsoft Update Catalog and run the .msi file that way to update.

>>108471637
the only difference is the licensing, they're identical otherwise

>>108472047
>Microsoft Update Catalog
Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7a89ZYcTo8
so what's your plan once windows becomes a thin client firmware?

>>108473073
My opinion is that I will not use it.

>>108470788
Might want to also consider 8.1 as well, especially as they overengineered the OS to run well on the very first Surface (Windows RT variant with an ARMv7-based Tegra 3 SoC) back then, and with the same common codebase - the desktop editions also carry these optimizations
Choose the Embedded Industry variant (preferably Enterprise), and have the OS fully updated first - https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1877891
For a browser - use Supermium (or if they want a Firefox-like, that r3dfox browser made by the eclipsetrannies), which should still support both 8.1 and 7
>unlike 7 with VxKex, I'm not sure whether there's an actively-developed forwards-compatibility solution for 8.1 as well, with 10+only applications
>pretty sure some of the legacy Windows lads checking this thread may give you a hint regarding that
Not sure about the full specs of that old PC, but at least have a cheap SSD as a boot device btw

>>108473085

>>108470579
Get it from zone94 if you're worried.
It's the successor to Black Edition btw.

>wake up pc with no keyboard
>login shows up with no osd keyboard
>plug in keyboard
>osd keyboard appears
what in retardation is happening

I hate this antimalware service executable so much it's unreal.

>>108473073
IoT LTSC 2024 has updates until 2035, I'm good.

>>108475182
Why? It takes up at most like 100/200MB. Is your computer ancient enough that you actually notice it?

I'd love to use sleep mode but my pc fans rev up for like 2 minutes until the bios remembers fan profiles exist and it goes back to normal

>>108475951
Does your BIOS have its own native fan profiles?

>>108475435
you won't be able to kick the can down the road forever. MS doesn't want you to use your computer as a PC and it will only become more painful to use it as such

>>108475939
The performance degradation while it runs is perceptible even with this new desktop I built this year, it's not a great experience at all.

>>108476777
I have like a PC from 2017 and I barely notice it at all, so dunno what's up with yours.

>>108471184
Install from disk or USB using the media creation tool from Microsoft.
Your computer should ship with a windows license, unless you built it yourself.

What's a good image viewer for Windows that isn't the default? Is infraview still one of the better ones or is there other options these days?

>>108478031
Irfanview is still fine with plugins but I usually go for Nomacs Dev/Beta.

>>108478036
>Nomacs
Doesn't look half bad. I'll give it a try, thanks!

>>108478523
Does what I want it to do.

>>108478535
View images, I assume.

>>108451336
can someone point me in the right direction for windows 8.1 for my surface pro 5?

>>108479119
The site os(dot)click has the final 8.1 multi-edition ISO.

>>108479175
ty fren

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>>108479175
where is this being hosted? I have google fiber and its taking forever to download.

>>108479256
On their DLL server it seems. Guess it would be faster with a download manager like JDownloader2?

retarded question here, how safe is it to use shit like classic7 or project luna ? did somebody try to analyze their isos ? and is it safe to use the revert8plus tool or not ?

>>108481831
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>>108475182
Disable it in Group Policy, you'll be fine without it if you are experienced with where to go and where not to go on the web and what is likely to contain malware and what is very unlikely. Otherwise, consider sandboxing downloads and running Malwarebyte's Antimalware and whatever you wish.
Fucking Microslop won't put a CPU usage limit on the realtime scanner since Winhoes 10, maybe even 8. And it was a non-issue back with 7. Needing to hog a whole modern CPU to itself is ridiculous.
For me, it has never detected anything anyway this past decade. Waste of CPU on any machine, and massive waste of battery on laptops.

When setting up W10/11 IoT LTSC, disable Tamper Protection first then disable Defender Antivirus in Group Policy, do not install any updates as I think they made it harder to disable. damn stubborn corpo and their stupid slop.

>>108476778
Anyone who does more than just shitpost on social media will notice it. I imagine you're the same fag every time I see these retard replies.

>>108483056
>I imagine you're the same fag every time I see these retard replies.
If that makes you feel better, sure.

>>108482339
Don't bother with shit like that and just install IoT LTSC 2021/2024 and use tools like StartAllBack and OpenShell to get that 7/8.1 look you want. StartAllBack has a free activator like MAS.

>>108482339
>how safe is it to use shit like classic7 or project luna ?
unknown

>did somebody try to analyze their isos ?
all you can really do is analyze disk activity and network traffic after you install it, but if it only activates at a certain time that won't catch anything. nobody's going to do proper static analysis on an entire windows iso.

with that said, they're probably safe, people would probably complain more if they weren't, but nobody really knows for sure. it could even be targeted malware that only does anything if it thinks you're an intended target.

>>108483214
They do shit like disable updates and Defender to keep the theming looking proper, so there's that to consider too.

Nothing works quite as nicely as Windows, but I'm so sick of the slop, and the enjeetificaiton of modern Windows that I want to flee the ship... but there's no where to run. Aaaaaaaaaaaah guess I'm here forever.

>>108484194
Anon stop getting filtered you can easily make Windows your bitch.

>>108484215
Oh I know, I'm just concerned about the future direction, and there's no serious alternative.

>>108484689
Well the vice president of MS has pretty much said that there's going to be a "great reset" for 11 where they're not focusing on AI anymore because it's obvious no one is using Copilot and are actually doing things like adding the option to put the taskbar on the sides and top again, so 11's future doesn't seem too bad. Hell they're even trying to get local accounts in the OOBE easily made for normies again, though naturally there's pushback but he's trying.

what are the best passwords to use for useless logins that don't connect to the outside world?
pass, password, 123, etc

im on windows 10, should i enroll for this extended security updates or is it a botnet?

>>108485621
I use two words and two digits.

>>108485631
This. A passphrase of just two words would be find if it's not truly important.

>>108485626
If you wanna keep using GAC 10 then yes you need to activate ESU via MAS.

>>108485639
>GAC ESU MAS
i just wanna grill for god's sake...
can u explain whatever you just said again in english?

>>108485658
https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol#windows-10-esu-updates-%EF%B8%8F

>>108485662
hmm is this like the cool hacker way to get the ESU instead of doing it through the windows update?
i'll admit i am intrigued because i dont want to sign into microsoft, but my windows copy is legit otherwise

>>108485726
run it and have peace until oct 2028

>>108485726
It uses the actual legit way to get the updates but does it in a way that you don't need to be using an MS account to get them. After you run it you'll have updates on your Windows 10 machine until late 2028.

>>108485733
>>108485735
ty i got it i think, and wtf this gave office too or something? thats some crazy shit yo

>>108470088
How long should they remain supported you think?

>>108475435
Yes, because at no point has a company simply stopped support for a product even if they initially said otherwise.

>>108485839
You can activate the ESU, every Office from 2013 and every Windows since Vista.

>>108485884
very cool... at least until these trans devs hijack my pc u know, anyways thanks for all the help

>>108460900
This is why I always run my eroges in Sandboxie-Plus despite using trusted sites.

>>108467802
Should've just told your pc to only get updates for Windows 10 in Group Policy Editor.

I'm getting terrible performance on Win11 for general usage. Typing text in Notepad++ is laggy, right clicks take 1-2 seconds to respond, YouTube video player become unresponsive where the video can't be stopped/started, file copying takes longer than it should where it slows down to 30MB/s copying from a RAM drive to a HDD easily that does 150MB/s in Linux. I'm using a X99 motherboard (Gigabyte GA-X99M-Gaming 5) and it doesn't have official drivers for Win11 so I'm not sure if that's the reason.

>>108486549
Go to the core isolation settings and disable memory integrity, under device security in Defender, and then restart.
This might fix your lagginess and bad performance.

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>>108486570
These are the only options I have.

>>108486600
Well that's just weird, it's like a main Windows 11 feature i.e. why those hardware requirements are in place.

>>108486609
I am using a version with TPM 2.0 bypassed so I don't if that is it as the CPU is old (5820K). Maybe I'll have to go to Win10 as it's getting unbearable.

>>108486652
On something so old, you should only use IoT LTSC 2024 if you wanna use 11.

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my main PC is not available to me right now, will i be able to use win10 on a 2000's Athlon 64 X2 6000+ ? i used to play Team Fortress 2 on it, but then again both windows and TF2 got way more bloated over the years

otherwise could i use win7 for this? i think theres tricks to get steam running on it

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>>108487573
This is my personal computer PC. While the CPU is much better than that Athlon, it's not great either.

>>108485621
The wi-fi password

is this iso for W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021 on internet archive gucci?

>>108487770
You could just download an official ISO from Microsoft, and if you want to customize it, use something like “Win11 creator”

>>108487770
check the hashes

>>108488282
>>108488283
i le checky wecky'd the friggin hasherino and its confirmed a heckin wholesome genuine iso!!!!!!!

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>>108487770
Why use an Archive ISO? Massgrave offers geniune IoT LTSC 2021 ISOs for download.

>>108486549
>it doesn't have official drivers for Win11 so I'm not sure if that's the reason
definite possibility

>>108486549
>>108489985
if it has windows 10 chipset drivers, try installing those. chipset drivers often fix a lot of weird bullshit.

>installing Windows 11 25h2 from flash drive burned with Rufus
>installation USB boots fine, pick drive, reach the point where the PC restarts automatically
>PC fails to boot (either normally or into recovery)
>check boot order
>HDD I'm actively in the process of installing it on doesn't even show up in the BIOS boot order as a bootable drive
>can't continue with the installation

I don't really know what else to try.

>>108491926
Let's go over a list.
>Did you install it in UEFI/GPT fashion?
>Is VMD/RST disabled in the BIOS?
>Did you take out the USB before restarting?
>Is the motherboard SATA mode set to AHCI?
>Is the BIOS in legacy mode by chance?

>>108483209
>StartAllBack has a free activator like MAS.
Oh that's interesting.

>>108491954
>Did you install it in UEFI/GPT fashion?
That's what I had the option in Rufus set to when I made the drive.
>Is VMD/RST disabled in the BIOS?
I have an AMD CPU, so I don't think I have a VMD setting. SVM mode is disabled, though.
I also don't see an RST setting anywhere.
It's an ASRock BIOS, for reference.
>Did you take out the USB before restarting?
It didn't give me a chance to, it restarted automatically as part of the install process. But also, even if I do, it just takes me to the BIOS because the supposed Windows 11 drive is not in the boot order, so it if can't boot to the USB, it boots nothing.
>Is the motherboard SATA mode set to AHCI?
Yes. Should it not be?
The only other option is RAID mode.
>Is the BIOS in legacy mode by chance?
The BIOS is UEFI and the CSM is disabled, so I don't think it's in legacy mode.

I can see the hard drive in the storage configuration menu, the BIOS just won't let me boot to it for some reason.

>>108492237
I'm guessing you made the Rufus USB with the requirement bypasses? Did you wipe this HDD with diskpart's clean command before installing to it?

>>108492331
>I'm guessing you made the Rufus USB with the requirement bypasses?
Correct.
>Did you wipe this HDD with diskpart's clean command before installing to it?
A very long time ago it was a Windows 7 OS drive (and still had the system and recovery partitions) but the primary partition was completely empty.
I just deleted the partitions on it to make the drive 100% unallocated space in the Windows 11 install window. Is that not sufficient?

Something else that's strange- I'm actually installing this as a second OS, because the actual objective is to do a fresh install of the main OS that's currently on a PNY 250 GB SSD, but I want to be sure that Windows 11 will successfully complete a fresh install on this hardware first (the current main OS was upgraded from Windows 10 a very long time ago).
The thing is, that SSD shows up in the boot order twice. At first I thought it was the main OS's primary and recovery partitions, but after booting to the second boot option for it, I was met with another "installing Windows" screen. However, after it automatically rebooted again, booting to that option just shows a Windows logo for a second and takes me back to POST, and now booting from the first option for that same 250 GB SSD (which has always been the one I'd select to actually get to the main OS) tells me that it can't boot because the BCD is screwed up.

In the past I've cloned disks with dd before finding out that doing so can also clone the disk identifiers and thus screw with an OS's ability to tell them apart. I don't believe I ever cloned the PNY drive onto the old Windows 7 drive, but could that be causing it to show up in the boot order with the same name as the PNY, even though the Storage Configuration section of the BIOS can successfully tell them apart?

>>108492398
>Is that not sufficient?
No it isn't, partition ghost data is still there even if you delete all the partitions in the disk select screen. Using diskpart's "clean" through a shift+f10 prompt removes all partitioning data making it truly wiped.

I dont like modern image viewer known as "photos" on Windows 11, is there a way I can return to classic image viewer they had in Windows 7?

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Any way to change the BitLocker setting from current data only to the entire disk without turning off BitLocker?

>>108493265
Nope. You gotta turn off Bitlocker and decrypt the drive completely, then re-encrypt but set it to the whole disk this time.

>>108493148
There's some registry edits you can make to bring it back, or you can use the tool WinAeroTweaker to automate it via a GUI.

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>Search for something
>Indexing got turned off (I have no idea how)
>Click the blue "Turn indexing back on." text
>Instead of opening Indexing Options, it just brings up this tip
lmfao they're not even pretending to try anymore. Anyway I typically use Everything for searches, this was a one-off of actually using Windows default shit.

>>108492418
Cleaning with Diskpart seems to have allowed the installation to complete, so thank you.
HOWEVER,
>In the past I've cloned disks with dd before finding out that doing so can also clone the disk identifiers and thus screw with an OS's ability to tell them apart. I don't believe I ever cloned the PNY drive onto the old Windows 7 drive, but could that be causing it to show up in the boot order with the same name as the PNY, even though the Storage Configuration section of the BIOS can successfully tell them apart?
This seems to be the case. I have two "PNY 250 GB" boot options, one of them takes me to the installation with the broken BCD, and the other one takes me to the new Windows 11 installation. But if I open My Computer on the new installation, the C drive is very clearly not the PNY drive.
Thus, the BIOS thinks my 1 TB HDD has exactly the same name as my 250 GB SSD.

Is there any way to unfuck that? It doesn't appear to significantly break anything, but I'm sure it will be confusing again at some point in the future when I've forgotten this.

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>>108493286
It's so slow...

>>108493148
>I dont like modern image viewer known as "photos" on Windows 11, is there a way I can return to classic image viewer they had in Windows 7?
The problem is that it doesn't support modern formats.
https://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirror/restore_windows_photo_viewer_on_windows_10,1.html

I lost the challenge anons. After 1 month with Windows 11 I came back to loonix, I've tried this multiple times now and I always go back.
Loved win get and how stable it got though, the attempt at unifying the UI is welcomed also

>>108494122
if you run cmd as admin and type bcdedit /enum do you see anything with "PNY 250 GB"

if you do, it's just mislabeled in bcd and you can just update the descriptions. if you don't, it's your uefi reading some bullshit that got cloned onto the new drive and you'd probably have to figure out what is being read in order to change it.

>>108494438
Complete opposite for me. I try out linux at least once a year to see where things are at, and I return to windows in 1-2 days. It's still a horrible user experience.

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Does anyone know anything about fixing choppy/clippy/crackly audio on Windows 10 when the system is under high CPU usage? Im back on Windows for the first time in 5 or so years after using linux and this exact issue is what caused me to leave Windows in the first place. I've set my audio format to 44k CD quality and put on high performance mode and it still does it. It seems like it only does it when the CPU has to handle graphics for stuff like unsupported video codecs, the sound is otherwise fine when the GPU is being utilized.

>>108495154
First try testing configuring audio format to 48K, if it doesn't fix it then post hw specs and video specs as well (res, codecs) looks like your CPU is struggling but it shouldn't if it's a modern one

I'm getting a W11 bsod regularly. Will give full access to my computer to ChatGPT and see if it can debug the issue. Wish me luck!

>>108495544
im just gonna buy a usb sound card at this point its way too difficult to solve this from what ive seen online

>>108495706
big if tru

>>108494986
>Complete opposite for me. I try out linux at least once a year to see where things are at, and I return to windows in 1-2 days. It's still a horrible user experience.
Pretty much the Linux experience for most people, it's shit and still shit.
Let me share my expirence:
Cinnomen is shit, XFCE is shit, Gnome is fucking shit, Cosmic is just like gnome (that's not a complement), Budgie is shit, Elementary is shit, LxQT isn't good, KDE plasma is borderline bearable.
Ubuntu sucks on the desktop Fixing it requires more work than using fedora (on desktop).
Fedora is a fine middle ground but you have to do lot's of work to get is borderline bearable
Arch is a joke.
When you are done with the basics (god forbid all that is basic) then you see the absolute poverty of application support on Linux and the amount of paper cuts and move back to Windows.
You will never see any real progress on that platform till they go cold turkey and remove the CLI (bash) and go all graphical it would be finally clear to these developer the platform sucks.

>>108495706
Reporting back. Codex read all my windows logs, found the problem was because of the hybrid discrete/integrated GPU of my laptop shit crashing with the power saving modes. Gave me all the drivers to update and now works fine it seems.
The future is now

>>108496175
just make sure it doesn't delete system32, agents have been known to do shit like that. but yeah, if llms are good at one thing it's having generally useful info about windows error logs and crashes.

>>108494182
Shogane na...

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anons I've done something stupid, I wanted to reinforce the security of my win11 iot ltsc and created a non admin user, with the admin account not being used anymore... except I made a mistake and now my admin account is locked
is there a way to change the password easily on it using my normal user password?

>>108496057
My most recent test was Fedora 44 Beta KDE. I chose KDE because I cannot stand GNOME. Install is pretty straight forward (it defaults to using btrfs and puts partitions as subvolumes) and there isn't much to confuse a new user. I have an Intel Arc GPU and with Xe support in the kernel that 'just worked', but with lower performance on benchmarks than Windows. The problems begin when you go to use it. Codecs are a mess, there's conflicting information online whether you're supposed to use Flatpaks or rpmfusion, the latter works better, and the user has to find their way to the rpmfusion readme to get some commands to blindly copy/paste in the terminal [they've already lost 95% of normies at this point], then there's a few more packages to install to get video thumbnails generating correctly.

FOSS replacements like LibreOffice still suck, as does most of the crap that KDE includes. The Baloo indexer is slow and crap, but at least fractional scaling in wayland does seem to work well now. I never got around to fixing it, but my mouse appeared to lag subtly when it moved, despite the polling rate being sufficient. I wasn't particularly interested in fixing this, because I had no compulsion to stay.

Why not stick with it? Nothing about the desktop linux experience improves my windows workflow. I have to give up both Excel and OneNote for shoddy or non-existent alternatives. While 2 of about 5 engineering programs run perfectly in linux (this is because they're often used for server usecases), I'd be tinkering trying to emulate the others. Even bash is a joke compared to powershell, so I'd probably bring that, along with Edge and VScode to linux. Perhaps the one thing I prefer is that GCC works well linux, but that's easy to mitigate with msys or even by using WSL just for that. Fedora (even the non-beta) will update significantly more than Windows too.

I'm a million times happier in Windows 11 with the parts I dislike tuned away in group policy.

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>>108453939
How bad is 11 though?
Is it worth trying to get used to or should I just stick to 10? I tried 11 a bit and it just feels bad desu.
I'll be honest, I've always used Windows 10 Home so some of that is confusing for me.

Is Pro dropping support in 2028 too?
So my only options are LTSC and Enterprise if I want Win10? What are the drawbacks of either? I assume LTSC will play awkwardly with an MS account which is why you recommend Enterprise. But didn't I see something about Enterprise not getting all the updates and being a bit behind?

Any help welcome bros

I'm always a late adopter. I moved to 11 from 10 barely 2 years ago. It's fine.

>>108497609
I've only been on 10 for about three years now. It'll be ages until I'm using 11 most likely.

>>108497538
>How bad is 11 though?
matter of opinion seems like. some people are adamant it runs like shit for them and is a laggy mess. i don't have those issues and i have like five devices running it, so i don't know what the difference is, i'm going to assume they're telling the truth. maybe i just don't notice lag as much.

11 does have some annoying shit in it. i use group policy to turn off onedrive, copilot, and search box web search, and i use a few to control windows update the way i want. it's usually enough to fix all the problems i have with windows other than a few annoyances with explorer that i just deal with.

>>108497538
if you want to remain on windows 10 long-term you should use ltsc iot enterprise 2021 because it lasts the longest; unless it directly affects your use case, you should not worry about anything else because support lifecycle is what actually matters.

if you don't, you should rip the band-aid off now and just use win11, either education if you don't mind upgrading every few years or latest ltsc iot if you want to upgrade as infrequently as possible.

>>108497538
If you want to stay on your 10 Pro install then just run MAS's ESU activation via TSForge and you'll be able to stay on it until late 2028. If you want to stay on it longer then that you'd need to re-install your Windows via IoT LTSC 2021 which'll get updates until late 2032 but reverts to 21H2 from 22H2 (which some programs don't like.)
Otherwise, 11 is mostly just okay, and is seemingly from the horizon going to get better with less AI shit. You'd just use 11 Enterprise or IoT LTSC 2024 and it'd be all good.

>fresh Windows 11 install (used Rufus to bypass all the requirements, but I'm pretty sure the PC met every requirement except that the Ryzen 7 CPU wasn't on the list of officially supported CPUs)
>install went fine
>activated fine
>works fine
>if I restart the PC, it gets stuck in a boot loop where it repeatedly fails to boot, then fails to enter automatic recovery/startup repair, then fails to boot again
>eventually boots, but feels like it has a 5% success rate
Anyone have any ideas? I doubt it's failing hardware, the previous OS didn't have any issues like this.
I haven't run Windows Update yet since the install, any chance updates fix whatever's going on?

>>108498422
Anon, run Windows Update and install the March 2026 cumulative update. Like right now.

>>108498444
I have to do it in a couple hours because Windows 11 apparently locks you out of PIN sign in for two hours if your PC reboots too many times.

>>108498468
Ayaa you aren't using a local account either?

>>108498563
Not my PC.
User wanted it tied to their Microsoft account.

>>108497722
>maybe i just don't notice lag as much
I was using it on a clean install and honestly it does seem just a step behind. Even just opening the context menu has a weird delay. Not massive but enough to where it's noticeable.
>>108497749
Thank you.
Are there any drawbacks to ltsc iot like device compatibility issues or the lack of frequent updates causing any performance problems? I would rather stay on 10 long term but I get they're pushing it to the bin quickly.
Would you say updates are needed on Win11 or is ltsc iot going to be fine?
>>108498095
I'm EU so I had extended support for 10 but now that they've updated my machine to 11 I'm not sure it'll apply if I revert back.
>but reverts to 21H2 from 22H2
Thanks that's very handy to know. Is that a major issue do you reckon?
Seems like I either have a short term solution in waiting till 2028 on Pro which sounds OK, going on to LTSC till 2032 but facing possible issues, or biting the bullet and going for 11.
Is 11 Pro OK or should I go for Enterprise? They all support an MS account, right? No weird restrictions?

Thank you bros, this truly is friendly windows thread
>april fools captcha
heh

>>108498838
If you're installing fresh you might as well just use 11 Enterprise (via the 11 Business ISO.)

>>108451336
i hated this fucking wallpaper as a kid
to hell with dogs

>>108452824
good

>Windows defender has found HackTool:Win32/AutoKMS
Massgrave fucked?

>>108498998
which method did you use? iirc sometimes it gets flagged

>>108498998
If you're using MAS via the standalone script then you need to disable Defender because it treats it as a virus as the hash of it has been flagged. This is why people say to use the irm command in an admin powershell because it scrambles the hash so Defender doesn't even notice.

>>108499013
It's been a a few years, but I was phoning it in and using the suggested/first method with powershell.
>>108499038
This is wayyyy after using MAS, I'm on Pro edu 22h2 and Every method to prevent windows updates and windows defender from re-enabling themselves is just reversed every time I restart. Somehow, it's still activated. God knows if that will be the case next restart.

>This year's april fools is the captcha turning into naming anime girls
okay that's kinda funny

>>108499063
You should probably just remove this KMS activation and re-activate using either HWID or TSForge. KMS activation is very much old school now.