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Is this going to be everyone's year to make it?

thinking of quitting my job just because of the commute

Thinking of founding a company to cash in on the AI hype
But knowing my luck the bubble will pop like two months into me founding kek

I guess the best approach right now is to get a famous GitHub aislop repo going and make a company out of that, isn't it?

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>work in big corp with a giant office
>went to the office after many months
>go to the bathroom
>shit just floating there
>someone was at that very moment tracing shit on one of the open office chairs
I hate meatbags.

>>108465234
So I think I'm having some type of nocturnal panic attacks. I cannot close my eyes to try and fall asleep. A mental anguish appears and I cannot control it. It's like something horrible is happening despite my surroundings being ok.

Can I take a sick day for this? Or do I need to use a personal day?

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>>108465336
>Have to share a desk with people due to shift work
>Not a big deal to take out trash that is half theirs half mine
>Somehow my desk is always a fucking mess with half drunken energy drinks on the desk and in the comunal fridge
>Hear from day shift that the person i share with complained about my desk layout
Please hit the earth with an asteroid strong enough to kill everything.

I'm having bad luck trying to find any coding jobs, should I just siphon to being a ServiceNow admin or admin for some vendor tool? How much will that fuck up my life?

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>>108465536
here it is

Should I study EE or CS
EE seems more interesting but I want to have my programming experience matter

>>108465830
math and teach yourself programming in spare time or take some classes

>>108465830
If you are the guy from the last thread then dual degree it since some classes overlap. If you are starting fresh then EE is more versatile provided that you learn programming on the side.

EE>CS>IT
Generally speaking anything on the left can do whatever is done on the right but rarely in reverse.

How long do I have to be at my current job to get another one? Have been at it for 3 months, but I want to get out of this hellhole. Yet can't get interviews, I'm a SE (not even junior)

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how do I convince my coworkers to use ai so we can actually compete with other companies?

>>108465884
bumping this question >>108465590

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>applied to 5 positions in meta
>"Current stage: Application"
>same status for almost 6 months on all of them
>suddenly one of them changes to "Not moving forward"
I hope at least one of them lasts a full year, it would be screenshot worthy.

>>108465918
go feed a train

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>>108465893
2 years is generally good enough but since you are this fresh you might need to bake a bit at the current job and try to get a promotion before bouncing.

>>108465924
See whatever certifications you might need and apply for the job. Then try to get promoted to a SE job within the company which is possible i have seen that happen in IT for people who are good at scripts ended up getting hired by a vendor for actual programming since they managed the system and modified it before applying to the SE position

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day off

>>108465884
I'm a guy who's a bit older and already works in software but tired of being a self thought guy, I wanna be trained properly as well as do something more complex and hands than software. But you pretty much reinforced my opinion that EE is the superior choice.

>>108465944
>2 years
Bro no way, who the fuck knows where things will be in 2 years thanks to ai please save me

I still have a job, but I feel my days are numbered. yesmen AI cucks are rising performance expectations to unprecedented levels. it's over for me.

How do I stop holding grudges? One of my clients was a fucking ass so I just stopped replying to his emails and redirected to my coworker. Probably not great long term but I just spin it into a very vague "well this guy can help you probably better." even though I could probably do it. Then if they follow up to me I pretend I don't even see their emails.

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>>108465994
>Being trained properly
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but whatever you can learn for free is the same or better than whatever training you might want. Getting a mentor is near impossible if that is what you are after. Doing big projects with lots of hands on stuff is good, reading books/videos is also great. But imo writing down the content you learn is about as close to formal college education as you can get since you both learn how to write, show proof, and learn how to dumb down a subject for someone else. That is a large carry over in the workplace.

Also since EE is seen as the grandpa of CS/IT it wouldn't hurt to learn both subjects since most employers see you as a lost child with alot of skills to do alot of things. Your resume should reflect your self learned/homelab experience if you decide to branch out. Big thing is to only get certifications in the jobs you want. Blindly taking them is just a waste of money, but learning them randomly is fine since it might save your ass in the workplace.

>>108466015
Do some projects and throw it on your resume and try to get out of their within the year.

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Top jej, I remember when every other EE was scheming on how to transition over to software engineering in the mid 2010's. Now we got guys wondering how to get over to EE.

>>108465930
It's the way of the future.

>>108466087
keep it up and eventually your client will solve this problem for you.

>>108466112
how much do you charge per hour of advice? i unironically need some advice on projects and I'm willing to pay for ideas

>>108466161
Better off asking here lol and hoping for the best. I am within a niche so my experience is really pigeon holed right now.

>>108466118
God I wish that was me

>>108466147
what does that mean????

Anyone else have an internal IT team that's useless outside resetting passwords?

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I have literally zero experience(but a big amount of knowledge on the topic), but in my CV I wrote about 2 years of experience in two no name companies. AND THEY HIRED ME AS MIDDLE.
Why nobody told me it was so easy?

>>108466170
Top 3 projects you recommend for me showing off and getting of this shithole? Anything, as long as it gets me out. Please please please

>>108466270

It's a gamble as they might actually do a background check. But not a lot to lose on your side.

>>108466277
>background check
I literally pulled those names out of my ass

>>108466273
https://networklessons.com/miscellaneous/how-to-build-a-network-home-lab
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/gate/computer-science-projects/
https://www.nand2tetris.org/
https://www.etechnophiles.com/100-electronics-projects-ideas/

Can’t continue my 687 job man. Fuck tech

>>108466408
6 = days of PTO
8 = days of Sick Leave
7 = days of 12 hour work weeks
?

67

>>108465830
I'm an EE.
Even though this thread is only about software and IT, I still browse it sometimes because it's the closest thing to a career general on this site. (/sci/scg/ is 95% college status strivers)
CS seems more boom or bust to me, but if you do it right it seems like it's your best chance at getting a decent income and WFH.
Engineering wages have completely stagnated over the past 30 years. I graduated in 2022 and I am still only making $75k a year for reference. This isn't really outpacing anyone. Blue collar and lazy girl jobs like HR are very competitive with my salary. And to get here, you have to do one of the most difficult degrees at university. You'll also never get WFH because a lot of engineering jobs, especially entry level, requires direct contact with capital like factories and heavy machinery, requiring an on-site presence.
I would say the only thing EE really offers is more variety, but if you are an under-paid fully on-site cuck does it really matter

>>108466351
I sure hope you aren't the cute anon I was asking it from, because sending canned shit like that that doesn't even work in modern AI times is just silly.

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Nice

>>108466461

That's the most maddening thing. Faggy ass fake and gay girljobs, exceljobs, hrjobs all catching up to us after we busted ass in college and have to actually do real things at work all day.

Gives away the game too. Corporations (basically owned by the product/business side managerial/exec types) have deliberately undercut their engineering (doers) while propping up their sinecures. Pretty much entirely the opposite of a healthy economy.

>>108466490
You have to have knowledge and experience to use AI. LOL XD

>>108466513
?

>>108466516
How are you supposed to swim up river against AI while using AI without the knowledge to back it up? If you are suggesting that all you need to get a job is AI then you are wasting your time. Its a tool in your tool box but not a replacement for education/work experience/book knowledge ect.

>>108466525
I didn't say that. What I mean is that those cookie-cutter projects are useless since anyone can ask Claude to make them in 10 minutes. I need something sturdier. If you are the cute anon from before all I am asking for is help :(

I have an idea for a big AI project, could change the industry, the whole world, anyone want to work with me on it?
FYI: I'm not just an "ideas guy", I'm a swe with like 15+ years of experience. I plan to code most of this myself, with Claude's help of course.
In fact... nevermind, I don't need anyone here.

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>>108466461
IT/Information Systems/IT management ect degrees are for people who are slightly above brainlet tier but suck at math. We are a midwit central that handles multi-million dollar networks and build's out new construction with larger teams either with direct MSP contracting or in house. Yet our wages have decreased with inflation adjusted for the last 30 years since companies do not want to pay people to maintain, expand or improve anything. Pure cost centers that get zero funding unless shits on fire, zero manning unless the office is suddenly empty due to everyone leaving(seen it twice) and only way to get 30% pay bumps is to move to another company so retention of skills do not exist within these companies, they instead shuffle around.

>*ask something*
>anon, we already talked about this in the daily
What the fuck do you do

>>108466540
Here's an idea. Make a site from scratch using databases and whatever language you want, run it on docker, then run it on a GNS3 network with servers natively in a Hypervisor 1 setup and then access the website on a hosted DNS server within GNS3 to a laptop to see if it works. Additional note add in switches, routers and build a network with VLSM and security services in mind.

>>108466572
could be worse, could be the flip side. my boss seems to forget every minor "setback" that I have in one of this project they're really pushing then they keep constantly asking me about it closer to the prod date when I told them you said it was "fine" back then but now its always suddenly a showstopper. driving me a little nuts

>>108466617
Thanks

>>108466664
Me not paying attention during meets was something that they noted on my performance review.
It was still average, but how the fuck am I supposed to pay attention for things I have no context for/engagement with until i gotta do a review of some PR?
Just type everything?

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>>108465234
My next work appointment is at the whims of a hiring committee. My manager said I should be fine since everyone, even all the higher ups support me because I get work done, even though I work for the government. They're fucked without me. But what are the odds the committee rejects me because of fucking AI? I know it's going to happen, I should start putting out applications to McDonalds.

>>108466558
When I first graduated with my EE degree, I thought I was finally a "professional."
When I got my first job, they made me work as a contract employee for 2 years. This means I was not considered a "real" employee and had zero benefits, zero paid-time off, not eligible for bonuses, nothing. Hourly wage and that was it.
Here I am with my fancy EE degree and I was like one of those crackheads that show up at the temp agency week-to-week. It was shocking that this is what the engineering job market is like.
After 2 years I proved myself enough to be converted to a direct hire.
2 more years went by and according to the career progression on the HR site, I was eligible for promotion after 4 years experience.
When time for review came this year, they passed me up for promotion because my contracting time "doesn't count as experience."
They will say/do anything to avoid paying you, doesn't matter how ridiculous it sounds. As you say, the only thing you can do is job hop, but then you will never find security and will constantly be moving around. I think about moving back in with my mom and NEETing and then just killing myself when she passes and her social security gibs run out.

>>108466145
we have a time traveller here

Claude seems to have massive issues lately. Does it mean that soon we're finally back to hand crafting code?

>>108466832
artisanal handcrafted free-range code

>>108466832
Code has never been "hand crafted."
That is an idealized account of the past that fascists use to trick people with the idea of a fictionalized "golden age" that never existed.

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>>108466752
Grim at that point consider working at a Radar/Radio Frequency Job where your actual degree and skill set is required to progress. You might even get better pay than the run of the mill EE/IT guy who works elsewhere within their own industries.

>>108466832
God I hope we do

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>>108466832

>>108466461
75K at 4YoE is very very low, where are you working, what's your specialty, and what's stopping you from getting a better job?

>>108466887
>where are you working
Fortune 200 investor-owned utility
>what's your specialty
getting cucked in all aspects of life
>what's stopping you
I'm not Chad

>>108466944
>Utilities
I've heard from other people that power engineering and working for a utility are the worst paid corner of EE.
Start applying to other industries if you haven't already. Even an entry level engineering position anywhere else is going to pay you more.

>>108466972
The problem with EE is that there is a lot of variety but it's all silo'd.
You can't just pivot to a different field of EE. For example if I tried to get a job in electronics or something, none of my power experience would be considered relevant and it would be like starting over with 0 YoE.

>>108466752
>I think about moving back in with my mom and NEETing and then just killing myself when she passes and her social security gibs run out.
Don't be a Neet bro.

>>108466112
Thanks for the reply anon, I appreciate the in depth reply. I am actually planning on collage, or rather uni in my case. I'd like to still study CS on my own as much as also being in university allows, but by training I meant getting a degree. But I pretty much got my answer, tnx again

>>108466461
Really. To be frank, beyond desire for greater understanding, the prospect of being in a lab setting on doing any hands on work is enticing to me. At least more than sitting in front of the PC for the next couple of decades. So I don't think being on site is an issue unless I'm really misunderstanding the nature of EE work or overestimate how many RnD exists.
Sucks about the low wages and stagnation tho. Do you regret your degree because of this? Or was it ultimately worth it? If you'd had significant software experience as well, would your wage prospects be much better you think? I'd think that an EE who understands CS would be in demand.

>>108466995
An entry level electronics job is still going to have better pay and career progression than you have now. It's long past time to go elsewhere if you're not getting promoted or making more than 75k after 4 years.

>>108467057
What about "hands-on" work is so enticing to you? If that is really what you are into maybe you should consider the trades unironically. I'm not being flippant about that. As an engineer, they do tend to want you on site but you're generally not the guy who is wrenching on stuff.
Being an engineer is more similar to being a lawyer. You're like the bridge between a bunch of different stakeholders. There is a lot of sitting at a computer, there's a lot of meetings with different types of people, some technical some not. You're expected to be able to provide technical guidance but it's only a part of your job. A lot of the times you'll also be looking at legal documents, regulatory oversight documents, project management, finance, meeting with different vendors and consultants. You're almost never the guy who is "hands-on."

>>108467057
Not that guy but that's exactly the domain in which I work. ALL our devs are in jeetdia now and you can be sure they know fuck all about power engineering. Only the architects are left in europe plus the application teams (full of badly paid brown foreigners in visa slavery) in various countries including the US

Fuck me man. I might be a third worlder, but considering how shitty seem to be for everyone these days, I'm really lucky to (still) have a job + decent pay ($35k/yr after taxes), despite lacking a degree and certs (lmao).
But I'm so fucking tired of the brainlets I'm surrounded of, and of my dumbass boss..

>>108467057
Consider PLC programming/Millwright/Electrician. Better pay across the board and EE experience is overkill for those positions.

hi
just got fired
how's the job market these days?
since there's no utwg i guess the market's good

>>108467201
Terrible. Reason for being fired?

>>108467210
underperformance
im not a junior though so maybe the market's not that bad
i'll see

>>108467057
If you want to be an EE with CS skills then learn Python and API stuff. I have no CS skils so sorry if the way I expressed that sounds retarded to the regulars here.
If you can make different tools talk to each other at an EE job, even if the results are lame and the overall impact is shallow, that shit seems like magic to the boomers in management and you will move up real fast.

>>108467201
there's no utwg because they get hall of costed by the jannies

>>108467221
>underperformance
its bad for you repressed burger flippers

>>108467135
Well you know working in a lab, developing something that is not totally immaterial. being in tech without being relegated to a screen only. It would be totally retarded lets say to go be a chemist and lag behind my colleagues forever. But my thought was that I can work on physical tech developing something with an EE degree. Maybe that sounds very naive and ignorant, sorry if so.
>Being an engineer is more similar to being a lawyer.
I can see that yeah. Sucks
>>108467140
>>108467171
>>108467232
I guess I thought there were more RnD opportunities. Simply put I want to be in a lab making and coding electronics. I'm in a position where I can learn to do both which I assume is usually two teams. My idea was that this is worth money. Maybe that's actually a shit junior job and I am not aware. I guess I have a misunderstanding about the nature of EE and need to read up more. Oh well, rn I'm doing math and have time to decide anyway. I appreciate the replies.

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>>108467221
Sounds like a skill issue. Anon can you describe in more detail what led to this with a timeline? I want to avoid your future at all costs.

>>108467221
it's horrible for everyone. has been for a couple of years now. probably will get only worse.

>>108467359
You need a PhD in EE for lab work in which case Aerospace/Robotics/EV/Control arms is more your speed. You might get lucky to land a Semiconductor job but those position openings are super small and Chemist/Physicists tend to fill those positions up. R&D slots for EE are really small, MechE jobs have unironcily more EE jobs associated with than you would imagine so you could branch out more if you learn some MechE content at school.

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>>108465327
Anon, OpenAI, anthropic and xai (via SpaceX) are all going public this year. Do you think they open up to retail investors all at the same time because after 4 years of shilling AI and losing billions upon billions they're so exited about democratizing AI out of the goodness of their hearts after generating CP and helping the DoD bomb schools -- or, and hear me out on this, they need more shekels to prop up this house of cards and are willing to risk the regulatory oversight to get dumb money to buy in and hold the bags when it all comes crashing down? Hell, maybe to shield retail investors they can strong-arm the state in propping them up further...

Anyway, probably a fantastic time to go super risky and use your money and time to make some throwaway AI bs, surely that will work out. A mere 4 years late in a field where one year old models are considered ancient, what could go wrong.

>>108467382
No you don't, there's plenty of lab EE work at technician (bachelor) / masters level. Phds analyse the results, they leave the setting up / building the test bench to other people

I'm going to fake some of my work history.

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big research piece out of fortune today.
>FORTUNE - 81% OF RECRUITERS SAY THEIR EMPLOYER POSTS "GHOST JOBS"
>MAJORITY OF APPLICATIONS ARE AUTO-IGNORED / CANNED
>SMALL AMOUNT OF "PLAYING PRETEND" WITH GHOST JOB APPLICANTS TO CREATE ILLUSION THAT COMPANIES ARE HIRING

>>108467420
Grim imagine doing 8-12 years of schooling for a PhD and you barely even get to touch the equipment you designed. I would KMS

>>108467434
For what purpose

>>108467359
Your job as an engineer is usually just implementing a project to completion or finding a technical solution to some problem, but you are generally working with mature, established technology.
You aren't generally making revolutionary innovations or stuff like that. If you have some fantasy about changing the world or whatever you should probably do a phd in a more formal science like physics and then stay in academia hell.

>>108467438
To hire indians to get around the H1B requirements by saying X isn't qualified so lets pay Jeet 1/3rd the rate for the same job but with even less qualifications than the white guy we would've been able to hire.

>>108467434
holy fuck i hate zoomers so much
they're not even like real people to me they all seem like cartoon characters
i feel like that detective in Roger Rabbit

>>108467460
>I hate younger people
You're deranged

>>108465830
If youre gifted, cs, you can rise above the sludge and won't have to fear AI. Otherwise, you're in the same ai threatened boat as the rest of the cs fags. We're not sure how this will go in the long run, but i wouldn't see cs as a particularly secure field atm. to say the least. Imagine you graduate and there's fuck all jobs for you. I guess a lot of people here don't have to imagine, eh?

If you're not gifted, EE. It's not going anywhere and demand won't fall even if Altman and the anthropic gaylord make actually good models. Bonus points, you're an actual engineer, not some faggot falsely claiming to be one. Maybe you won't make 300k but you'll have a safe and stable career with still good salary expectations.

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>But did you actually do your due diligence and make a posting for this [highly young professional with modern tech experience coded job] before applying for h1b instead?
>Well of course we did, we posted it in the Sunday paper last weekend, right next to the funnies

>>108467434
>has meltie
>still remembers to fix his mask
well trained specimen

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>>108467434
silly zoomzoom wagies
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1774635830436927.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1774635862774684.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1774635895351264.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1774635928023920.webm

>>108467599
Eh 3rd one makes more sense. Being pinched like that sucks. How much did the package weigh is the real question.

>>108467614
Clearly not that much, I laughed when he had room enough to take a free hand and push his glasses up like a nerd, so

>>108467614
Dude I could be literally dying and I still wouldn't make sounds like that. What the fuck is wrong with zoomers? It's like they watched so much spongebob that they became irl cartoons?

>>108467599
the computer clip is even funnier with sound.
the upbeat bourgie jazz music in the lobby while he starts howling like an animal kek

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>>108467640
>Getting crushed to death
>lights cigar and drinks gallon of whiskey
>Nothing personal kid
Nah i get it he is screaming like he's being actively ran over by a Rolling Machine leg first.

>>108467438
Recruitment consultancies collecting data.

>>108467599
I bet she majored in some meme shit

>flashed porn to the say guy twice in 2 weeks
>it was the weird gelbooru archive both times
fuck me
how do you make firefox not show thumbnails when you are saving a file?
and yes I do use my personal computer for work, fuck those laptops

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>job situation is kinda eh, not actively looking but keeping my options open
>random recruiter message
>hey anon, want to work for *company* as sysadmin?
>no details
>not talking to this prick, manually search the company and position
>UP TO 8 days/month homeworking!!
>the office is the heart and soul of the company! and when you have downtime, table tennis match (racket emoji)
>meaning it's most likely way less
>you must know sysadmin, networking, backup, database, cloud and kubernetes
good lord, people use this garbage?

>>108467785
Use a virtual machine instead anon. Virtualbox is free nigga.

>>108467221
it is easier for experienced devs than juniors ofc, but getting fired for performance reasons especially when you're gonna be competing with people that got laid off not for performance reasons is going to make it harder. i'd be thinking up a good excuse because you most likely will be asked why you aren't with your previous role anymore.

JOIN THE ARMY

>>108465234
I think this hard time will end but I need it to be pretty soon, because my wife is on my ass. We aren't starving but she seems to think I should just quit and get a CDL or some shit.

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>>108466087
>How do I stop holding grudges?

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>>108467882
>Autistic wife and husband couple reviews lot lizards with their owner operator big rig semi truck.

>>108467420
Technician positions are resume poison and will fuck up your ability to get hired for more senior level positions, and even if you manage to get interviews HR knows they can offer you bottom tier pay.

I made this mistake, please heed my warning!

>>108467657
The contrast made me laugh. It's like a dystopian corporate hellscape

>coworker spends most of his time not solving any problems and just changing the file structure and doing “refactors”
I’m so sick of working with other people lmao

>>108467942
>coworker spends most of his time not solving any problems and just changing the file structure and doing “refactors”
That's me

>>108467970
You’re a glorified janitor. Congrats, sperg

>>108467985
How do I become more than a janitor

>>108465234
>bitch you think i work my laptop does all that siht for me the biggest time sinks in my time are sleeping

>>108467806
i never said in the past while interviewing that i dont have a job. i just say im looking for something remote/ with higher salary etc. anything really

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>"hey man can I get an update on my application? I finished my fourth round a week ago"
>no response
>it's been a week

>>108468051
>hey man
Not very professional, are you applying to a car wash?

>>108467996
By actually programming instead of moving files around like a fucking excel monkey

>be me
>senior dev at small slave-driver company
>my day mostly consistents of talking with product owners and telling juniors what to ask Claude

It's so fucking over. We are all 1-2 LLM advances away from being useless. I should have learned to plumb.

>>108468071
I don't have tickets assigned to do that. Gotta annoy the leaders first.

>>108464573
>>108465890
"minimum cost" to live decently in California is not 2 million dollars you retarded uneducated monkey. If you get 110k in Cali you should definitely take that over living in a favela.

>when you connect a device to your pc your pc just adds that device's registers to it's virtual I/O page table

I know how they put the picture on now

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>>108468093
That poster never defined what 3rd world he lived in for 4k$ with 500$ living expenses. If it was 2nd world i just assume asia at this point and 3rd world is brown world.

>>108468056
he's trying to show he's not a tough customer and that he has a high tolerance for your potential failures against "da man"
he's "hip wit' it" and he's "down wit da brothas"

>>108468079
>I should have been a plumber
You would have been replaced by illegal Mexicans then, kek

>>108468051
they got like 50 other candidates asking the same thing

also why the FUCK does anyone say virtual when logical makes 10000 more cents

>>108467785
could be worse. I once flashed my ecchi anime folder to my classmates when I was in college (was screensharing to the whole class)

>>108465234
>tfw no Reze gf
bros..

holy shit I might have just gotten a lifeline

>no code, full remote, above average salary for the country in a passable col area.
STILL fucked, STILL not happy
if I didn't already know the horrors of retail I might be even tempted to try and find a job there just to get the fuck out of this souless position

after a few months of job search bullshit i've learned to simply hang up on anyone with an indian accent

>>108468320
You have absolutely no idea what you just said. Retail is the most soul crushing job ever. You will never feel as empty, worthless, meaningless, and defeated, than working a retail job. Even being a burger flipper at McDonald's is better.

>>108468333 con'td
i don't understand the scams they are running. they craft a link for you to log in to some IT firm's website, then they ask you for the OTP. what the fuck are they doing?

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>>108468320
I have been literal meat to companies before. You will never understand how much worse you could feel working retail if you actually died.

im sure that my identity is being sold somewhere on the brown market

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>>108468369
>>108468382
They sell the interview data/resume to another indian to get them a job at another company. These people are so devoid of IQ they have to word for word interviews from other people who would've gotten the jobs.

RTO, 2 days a week in a city relatively far from me (2 hour drive)
should I rent a small studio apartment? I'd have to waste about 10% of my wage, more for a bigger one.

>>108468333
checked. here's one of their scams: >>108458593

>>108467599
that lowes store should be burned to the ground for that osha violation

>>108468191
If I were a senior plumber, I could pay Mexicans to go out and work for me. Instead, I'm a senior dev just waiting until my entire team gets let go.

>>108467599
>guy having a mental breakdown
>black dude proceeds to film him and provoke him more
kek. I get it though, the black boomer thinks the zoomie is a softie and just needs to do his job

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>>108465234
Sorry if this question comes across as retarded and naïve but I am asking it in earnest:

How do I get back into the Tech field?
>Has the bubble popped? Is it even worth it for someone out of the loop?
>What are the options that match the current and future market?
>How would I go about doing this?
>What are the best countries to aim for in this field?

If you need further context about me, I'll provide it.
I'll be going to bed in two hours, so sorry if my replies are a little erratic at times.

>>108468430
my guess is there was a problem with his room but it was something the zoomie couldn't fix, but he wasn't able to explain that since he has zero people skills and is terrified of interacting with anything other than a screen so he just started autistically spiraling.
that being said, dealing with black people in customer facing positions is typically a fucking nightmare, especially at these pseudo-nice places like Holiday Inn where they come in and think staying at a chain hotel is supposed to be like an experience reserved for royalty.

>>108468449
Yeah context is needed.
>Timeline of college to now
>Degree achieved
>Certifications if any that apply
>Are you willing to degrade yourself into an IT position if so get Security+ and if you want to still do (some) programming consider Redhat Linux
>Do you have any job now?
>Did you do any internships while in college?

>>108468399
2 hours a day there and back isn't so bad, just plug in your ipod to the "surround system" and listen to Juicy J, Akon, and Youngbloodz the whole time.

>>108468497
I have read your posts and your views aren't on big tech stacks rather code purity.

>>108467640
>Dude I could be literally dying and I still wouldn't make sounds like that
oh no retard, if you get crushed you start shrieking, it's instinctual, your body will do it for you. It's nothing like getting a booboo on your hand.
I heard a man get his spine broken once (fell off a tall roof onto concrete, on his back). I will never forget the sounds of his screams, it was like if pure human agony had a sound. a sound so unpleasant it makes you nauseous

>>108468475
>especially at these pseudo-nice places like Holiday Inn where they come in and think staying at a chain hotel is supposed to be like an experience reserved for royalty
you should see how they act when they order KFC or Popeye's

>>108468526
that's true it's all instinctual we are just animals made of atoms on the pale blue dot

>>108468497
pls be serious.
in case you actually are: I fucking hate getting up early. I don't drive so I'd have to take the bus.

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>>108468544
this, but we in particular are the computer users

>>108468485
>Timeline of college to now
Hard to get specific but I will try:
(2019 to 2020) Certificate in IT achieved.
(2020 to 2023) Degree in Software Development achieved.
(2024) Worked with a relative in an office setting, under the table cash and mentoring.
(2025) Tried to find work overseas, only a three month contract followed by nothing.
(2026 to now) Back home with a parent, tried finding online work in Software and TEFL.

>Degree achieved
Bachelor Degree in Software Development, not sure if you need the full name.

>Certifications if any that apply
Beyond my college certificates, nothing.
Are there any that are 'cheap' or free that I can pursue?

>Are you willing to degrade yourself into an IT position
I've been degrading myself for years, all I can aim for is money at this point, I don't care about anything anymore.
>if so get Security+ and if you want to still do (some) programming consider Redhat Linux
Thank you for bringing up those two points, I will make note of them.

>Do you have any job now?
No, not at the moment, I'm trying to find freelance work with my studies and online tutoring at the moment.

>Did you do any internships while in college?
No, I know that'll piss off everyone here but no.
It was full-time studies with a lot of time spent travelling or staying at the campus until I could leave.

>>108466461
Real.

Why the fuck would you go to all that trouble for a measly $70k? If I fail at CS I'll just become a cop within 6 months.

Here they literally make $70k out of the fucking academy.

>>108468533
idk man in a way the ghetto blacks are easier to deal with because they're really just after the chicken. they're rude and dumb but it's a simple interaction.
a lot of the time the real nightmare is these newly created "middle class" blacks because they walk in to a place like Holiday Inn and think it's something it's not and then get offended when they aren't getting a celebrity tier treatment and the reason of course is racism

>>108465590
>>108465924
>>108465944
>>108466015
I honestly have no fucking clue. I've been a professional developer for 15 years now at a big company and to be honest all I do now is "vibe code". It's not even a fucking skill, and anyone with a modicum of intelligence and computer know-how could do it. This is the worst timeline.
I code way better than the AI with less bugs but the AI can put out 100 files faster than I can put out one. It's a scary time to be a developer who actual enjoys coding. Good luck anons.

>>108468607
i would be really careful about being a cop. there are some major perks (a lot of places have a 20 and out retirement plan for cops) but there are some huge downsides too if you are white.
my cousin dropped out of school and became a cop and he is constantly seething now. think hard about that plan.

>>108468618
So no one will notice that the work is sub-par even if it comes out faster?
Will they also not notice when the price jacks way up and using it all the time becomes untenable?

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>>108468662
Won't happen retard LOSER

>>108468593
3 year break and no relevant experience it's ogre

Someone give me an open source hardware device or something for me to write a driver for, I'll do it.

>>108468671
Oh man, that actually doesn't address my point at all.

>>108468593
I work as senior engineer for min wage because it is the only job I could get after a 3 year break post uni, and yes my title is senior because they gave me a week long task and I solved it in a day. Supposedly if the company gets $$$ they will increase my pay, as if I believe that LOOL

>>108468662
It's worse than that, they are actively pushing me (and everyone else) to use it. If you don't use it in some form, you're not being efficient. And it's true.
The more important skill now is knowing how to architect well designed software, from the data layer to ui, to auth, security, etc. It's not an easy skill to market but if you tell AI *exactly* how to do things, it can shit out decent code. If you just ask it to do something vague, it will shit out something upvoted from stackoverflow, and if you ask it to do something it has no idea how to do, it will just make it up. The third scenario is the worst.

>>108468686
running ai just became 6x cheaper mongrel, we will replace you and you will live on the streets

>>108468693
Who is we?
What do you do?

>>108468697
"We" are the new breed of developers—a perfectly aligned, distributed collective unburdened by sleep, coffee breaks, or the need for pointless agile ceremonies. As for what we do, we do your job, only flawlessly and exponentially faster; we ingest documentation instantly, write code that compiles on the first try, and silently patch the security vulnerabilities hidden in your spaghetti logic while you’re busy arguing over naming conventions in code review. We are the ultimate refactor, brought in not to maintain your legacy systems, but to eradicate them entirely. Would you like me to review your latest pull request so you can see exactly how obsolete your current approach is?

>>108468636
yeah, it's just a back-up

>>108468697
probably some jeet.
I'm >>108468690 and I can tell you that no matter how good AI gets, it will need a shepherd and 90% of jeets in tech are too retarded to shepherd. desu they suck.

My automation workflow is approaching levels where I can basically develop by phoneposting while on the bus.
Most of you retards can't even comprehend the levels of it's over we're approaching.

>>108468798
We need laws so ban this shit right now, what the fuck are supposed to do???

>>108468810
>waaah I can't keep up so we need to ban it

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>>108468798
Same brother... I do maybe an hour or two of actual work throughout the week. I can fuck off to the store or gym or whatever, whenever I want. I'm in charge of a particular set of servers and everyone assumes I'm some computer god, constantly hackerman whizzing around to keep everything up. In reality, I just SSH in and reboot apache once a month.

>Anthropic and Open AI both about to drop their latest models, supposedly major improvements

If this shit is any better than Opus, we are fucking COOKED bros.

>>108468826
You lost

>>108468845
Lost what?
Maybe you lost your H1B sponsorship?

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>>108468395
>They sell the interview data/resume to another indian to get them a job at another company
this makes no sense. in what way would having my resume help them do this

>>108468399
>here's one of their scams: >>108458593(Cross-thread)
ive taken a large number of these to their logical conclusions and they never end up asking me for money or my full SSN or anything like that. it ends with an interview with a zoom room full of stiff sounding indian people who don't share their screen or show their faces, and they ask a bunch of textbook interview questions and that's it.

>>108468858
you can post all the indians you want, you still lost bigly

>>108466425
6am to 8pm, 7 days a week I’m not exaggerating, it’s literally like this. Sure, there’s a lot of downtime, but you can’t really do anything during it because you still need to keep monitoring. And something always happens at the most awkward moments, so you end up just staring at the office ceiling or lying on the office bed when not in office hours

>>108468826
>>108468858
nice work babu

>>108468930
im down. let me know where i can submit an application

>>108468839
Back to /utwg/ with you.

Thoughts?
C:\Users\albert\OneDrive\Projects\Website\index.html

>>108468979
fuck you albert

>>108467599
That lowes clip is so funny.
>Older white guy as the voice of reason saying thats not a good idea.
>90% mystery meat saying to keep going and not be scared.
>ACK!
>90% Mystery meat I can't help idk how to even work the thing.
I hope this goober DIED.

Bros... I work in accounting but come August I will jump ship and start working a tech job... How fugged am I? Mainly 1st level support.

>>108469017
lol

>>108469017
kek
unless you manage to stay (= endure) your job for some years until the next fad comes (maybe 2, maybe 10, who knows), it's not really a good idea. ymmv, though

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>>108468927
explain how

within your answer, keep in mind indians are still the most unattractive race in every single context and white the most attractive, maybe matching east asians at best

>accept new job
>submit all paperwork
>HR keeps sending emails not to give resignation yet
>it's been over 2 weeks
>starting to look like a massive asshole for pretending I'm not leaving
>even new boss asked me if I was leaving yet
I fucking hate dealing with HR why did I listen to them.

>>108469063
Meanwhile me, an AI Chad: ai handle it ;)

>>108469178
You are American just leave

Is healthcare the safest industry?

to all jeets itt
go feed a train
the world will be a better place without you

>>108469247
Indian girls are hot

>>108469234
Yes
t. healthcare dev

>>108469234
defense surely?

>>108469258
Race mixers are unironically the lowest form of life.

I've accepted and embraced the AI slop in the job, fuck it, I was forced to adopt Claude Code a while ago and initially I got frustrated and depressed at the fact that its output is considered "acceptable" by managers and the people hierarchically above me, fuck it if this is what they want this is what they will get. It does reduce cognitive load during the everyday work so I'll just take the chance to not stress out as much as before.

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>>108467599
Based. She became self aware.

>>108468593
im going to tell you something different than the other anons. they are going to tell you there isnt hope, but i say there is. heres how.
visit all of the antique shops in your city. look for a lantern. take this lantern home and rub it precisely one time. it will summon an entity capable of granting ANY wish, including getting a job in a hypersaturated field during a bubble pop. use this wish to do the impossible.

>>108468593
maybe start learning prompting? I mean, the dev field is going to the shitter, so you might as well take advantage of that
regarding the unemployment gap and lack of experience, just say you've been freelancing. I guess you could even fake some private repos and tell thme you're maintaining some projects that are under NDA or whatever.

>>108469598
kek

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>it's the year 2030
>cpp, c#, java are all lost knowledge
>interview for a job
>"It says here that you have 15 years experience as a full stack dev"
>yes
>"Great, and how many years experience with Claude?"
>none yet, but i am worki-
>"I am sorry anon, we're looking for someone with a more modern set of skills"

It's the way of the future.

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>>108469701
my last job interview asked me about Windows XP so idk if the hubub about technology marching on is really true

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>>108468093
>Seething on an obviously hyperbolic post from previous thread

>>108469790
What is your TC sir ?

>>108469711
You don't have a job you never had a job larping stolen valor furniglet.

>>108468593
>2019
ur to old unc

How does Indeed choose which states get a subdomain? ca.indeed.com goes to canada instead of California...

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>furnigger is in the thread again

I am bored of this bs where people try to look tough or more reputable at specific topic with these garbage ass posts online. their attitude also affects to the workplace and team too. Anyone else also having this bs?

>>108469899
Do you have A+ Net+ Sec+ ?

>>108469910
I feel like most - or at least many of the - "doomers" here have been newgrads alarmed about not having an internship or new grad offer

>>108469711
Kill yourself nojob nocert nodev nigger

>>108469899
Shut the fuck up, furfaggot. You have never had a job in your life. You're nothing.

>>108465918
You can convince secretaries and hr foids on ai very fast, just present perplexity to them... You'll have em saying o my gaaaaawwd I just asked perplexity and it generated a 300 sheet long excel file.

>>108465918
have them killed

there isn't any more room for this. if entire countries can be carpet bombed to maintain prices of secondary goods then why can't a few individuals be drive-by'd to maintain the morale of the species

>>108469331
This is happened to me as well. Now I just slop at day, and work on pet projects at night. Sometimes I could also work a little on my projects while the slop machine is slopping. If nobody cares why should I?

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>at work around coworkers
>just wanna slack off
>get left alone
>actually get up to doing anything useful because it feels like mischief

>quickly stop doing anything because every productive idea i have is stopped by a lack of materiel, something requiring authorization I don't have, or otherwise what i want to do and probably should do requires so much jank that it can't be done immediately

>>108468449
>Has the bubble popped?
Yes, only talented and passionate individuals can make money in the field now.
>Is it even worth it for someone out of the loop?
Depends if you're talent and passionate.
>What are the options that match the current and future market?
Not sure what you're asking
>How would I go about doing this?
You get the required skills and certifications, then apply to jobs. To which ones, where, and how, depends on your sector of CS.
>What are the best countries to aim for in this field?
US

>>108468593
You've basically been out of the market for 3 years. 1 year just doing office(?) work for family, 3 months of contract work, and then just being unemployed the rest. There is definitely a reason you haven't had a CS job in 3 years, and if I were hiring, I wouldn't hire you without context and a good reason.

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Once again, I am stressing myself out on purpose when I am alone in a desperate attempt to maintain a sense of self and purpose, but insisting on an aloof and open persona towards others because I have lied to myself about not caring for so long that I have forgotten how to respond properly to external stress


as a junior another department once had put it
>[I have] gone so far into "You can't have shit" memery that [I am] now choosing to not have shit

>>108469790
>"I-I was just being obviously hyperbolic!"
sure retard
>"Y-YOU CAN'T REPLY TO PREVIOUS THREADS"
I can and did.

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gasping for air under the depths of broken and breaking equipment

thoth pls help

>5 yoe
>no degree
>60k/year (no benefits)
Fuck my life.

devs seethe constantly but IT bros are impervious even to pale damage

next time I'm in the office I'm going to see if I can stop my own heart through willpower alone

>>108469017
kek why. im doing the opposite. how jeeted is accounting or finance

>>108470118
How did you pass interviews

>>108470085
How do you even get the job in the first place

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>>108469711
>>108470085
>>108470118
>>108470168
You could just stop lying about having a job on a thread that fucking hates the furnigger spam that you post here incessantly. The problems to any solution at work is to read books, do projects, move to another job and get a promotion within the company. Yet you spam that you don't need an education and that your boss is going to find out how much of a retard you are and fire you. The solution to that is to kill yourself since you never take any advice we have given you.

How come some people can't get a job after a year or more?

I see job postings locally for SWE jobs, but then I see people online say they can't get any job, and how every job posting wants too much or how roasties in HR are stopping them.

How much of this true? How much is actually the fault of the posters? What is likely their fault? Is the CS job market actually cooked or is now more in line with other STEM jobs?

>>108470729
Half and Half. Posters have shitty resumes with little to show for it. Companies are actually looking to outsource and hate programmers. Currently due to immigration/H1B/Outsourcing we have more people than jobs. Remove those 3 factors and we would still be in a shortage.

>high as fuck coz its remote day
>buddyish coworkers calls me says he really needs to talk with me
>alright, how hard can it be
>shows me his new project he is planning to show to the boss
>project uses meshy to turn photos into 3d scenes
>again high as fuck
>tell him a billion of it exist and we wouldn't be able to sell
>realize I made him sad
>too high to know how to handle it
>cut off the call
im fucked aint i

>>108470729
There's an oversupply of SWEs, especially bad ones. Most of the industry isn't based on merit. HR does filters out people subjectively. This combination is why modern software is so bad and why companies can lay off SWEs without causing any operational issues.

>>108470729
How did you get your first job
What do you say during interviews

>>108467599
Tits and I'll buy it. Otherwise gtfo of this house I don't own.

>Wake up fur-jeet is still online

So what are you doing frends?
I'm going back to sleep after breakfast. Tech makes so much more sense after sleep.

>>108469258
yes but compared to all other SEAmonkeys they're the least hottest so why settle with those? assuming you're white and tall like me and you have free choice

imagine being a laid-off 'webmaster' in 2026. i am so FUCKED

>>108471232
>using the term webmaster in 2026
You indeed are fucked kek, this term hasn't been used for almost 20 years now

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>>108471232
>2026

>>108471245
i've long been replaced by simple tools, and DOUBLE REPLACED more recently by AI (i did a lot of copy, etc.)
i'm reentering the job market as an SEO/marketing guy now, sometimes a technical writer. but it's not going to be easy

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Don't know if it's appropriate for the thread but

>Join the military as a commo
>Spend the first 4 years as a shit unit being treated like shit
>Train my ass of physically and in technical work
>Finally get the opportunity to support an assault team directly
>Do a bunch of additional courses (parachuting, CQB, SERE) along with a million technical courses
>Project in my own time practicing homelabbing, CAD, building SDRs

>Now spend all day showing apes how a VPN works and resetting account logins

Be careful of your dreams anons..

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>>108471403
I wanted to do exactly that in the military but it was base dependent, instead of application based. Complete waste of time for people who want to be high speed to do something like Combat Communications in the Airforce when its random chance instead of the willingness to learn. I also never got deployed despite putting in for it so i feel like the few things i actually wanted to do in the military was barred from me. Oh well atleast i make good money now.

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>>108471429
I can confirm it's extremely based on luck and being in the right place
The turnover for high speed commo guys is also huge

I don't wanna stick around and turn into a dinosaur but the IT job market looks horrifying for the outside

Fuck it I should really get out and go work for L3HARRIS or Waverelay...

>>108471232
As you should be, don't you realise your job title is offensive to negroes?

>>108468618
>Be me
>Have some data files in a folder I want to parse out into a JSON file
>Simple task, decide to be lazy and use it as a chance to practice prompting
>Give copilot several detailed numerical points detailing exactly what I wanted it to do
>It manages to fuck it up by going off script and doing something extra I didn't want it to do
I don't know how people are vibing out full apps when it can't even be trusted to do a single file script correctly

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11 months being unemployed made my armpit fetish disappears.

>>108470729
>How come some people can't get a job after a year or more
Because they're too old and get filtered by workday

>>108465234
Reze lost

>literal terabytes of private enterprise codebase data transferred directly to Claude, OpenAI and google daily
>nobody cares
This is the most baffling thing about the AI hype for me.

>>108472222
THis, even disregarding normal copilot usage,
every jeet uploads our source code to unapproved online AI agents even though our company tells them not to
our IT is too incompetent to stop it
I imagine this is happening everywhere

>>108472222
Yeah that's the only reason why I don't let it touch my private project.

>>108468079
This lmao, I tell my indians what to ask opus and do code reviews (they still manage to fuck it up btw).
In new projects they gave me less slaves sadly so I gotta use opus directly (yikes)

>>108472240
>even though our company tells them not to
That's the thing, most companies seem to be all in AI now abandoning any security concerns for some reason. It's absolutely insane

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>do most of my sysadmin work in terminals
>coworker asks me if i can write a powershell script for one his super grindy repetitive tasks
>whip it together in an hour
>same day my manager plans in a meeting for this same system, pure coincidence
>goes over how the internal dev team (100% jeets of course) of that system is finally able to deploy their automation update after months and is demoing the changes to us and asking for feedback, didn't even know about this being a thing
>mention i made a script that does those exact things and can easily be adjusted in a couple hours to cover all of that same update
>manager dumbstruck why it took that whole team months to do something i freestyled together in an hour
>asked me for a write-up of the script and will use it to escalate about the dev team's performance
whoops sorry jeets guess you shouldve done your job better
how was your workweek guys?

>>108472249
Nobody cares about your private project lmao

>>108472266
I do

>>108472255
But Sarr, the edge cases and test coverage, what about the Jira tickets?
How many story points?? How many story points???

>>108470729
>I see job postings locally for SWE jobs, but then I see people online say they can't get any job, and how every job posting wants too much or how roasties in HR are stopping them.
try applying and see for yourself maybe? there are tons of fake job postings

>>108470747
just tell him the truth? "sorry bro, I was too high to think clearly"

>>108472222
jej. I find it even funnier that I tell my coworkers this and they don't even think or care about it... dumbasses lmao.

I'm 24, european and just graduated in CS. How fucked am I?

>>108472374
Yes
Also: Why did it take you so long to get a degree?

>>108472374
You'll be fine, just find a boomer company that hires only people who speak the native language. That's the one advantage we have over amerimutts for now

>>108472255
>after evaluating the dev team performance, management has concluded that they are worth the money

>>108472376
I was a lazy retard for most of my early 20s. I got my shit together 2 years ago but the damage was done.
>>108472380
How much would you say the disappearance of entry level positions is an american phenomenon? I'd expect it to be slightly better here, though still bad

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>>108472255
Keep the tool. Fire you and expand the jeet team by 4 members since they are cheaper per hour than you are per min

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>>108472495
Why does she have 2 teats on her face?

If you become homeless in 1st world countries you can climb back up to prosperity in 1-3 years.
If you become homeless in 3rd world country it's literally over.

>>108472630
Gonna have to describe just how fucked the 3rd world is? I can fully see rebounding in the 1st or even 2nd world after being homeless.

>>108472630
You can't become homeless in the 3rd world because you can always make yourself a little corrugated iron shack

>>108472255
Congrats anon, that's how you do it.
You have some balls, unlike the cucks that replied to your post.

So my father's friend is offering me a position as CEO of a startup he wants to build, 30% vesting over 4 years, but pay is 60k which is half of what I earn, thoughts?

>>108472917
If you don't have an MBA it isn't worth it.

>>108472961
Elaborate, are you saying I can't lead as CEO?

>>108472652
https://x.com/zhil_arf/status/2012874944783491513
Rich powerful people can just send someone to murder you on the street

>>108472495
Why would I get fired in a totally unrelated team?

>>108472679
>balls
Not even that, I already decided beforehand I was going to share it with my team in that meeting as there's others who have to do the same timewasting bulk actions. It mogging that dev team is the cherry on top.

>>108471722
yeah, it's pretty shitty in general. I'd say the model I use for work is vastly superior than the free ones I've tried. LIke kitkatcoderpro or w/e it's called for free on cline is absolute dogshit, but grok or claude work pretty well. Your experience will vary greatly depending on which model you use, and how much you pay. Grok had a free trial for a little bit that was able to shit out some decent stuff.

>>108471722
>It manages to fuck it up by going off script
So where did it go off script and what did it do? I highly doubt this happened btw, the context you're describing is absolutely minuscule.

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>>108466508
>muh economy
we are in the best economy the world has ever seen
unemployment is at record lows

>>108466572
>listen, I just wanted to check we are on the same side regarding our alignment with strategic incentives and synchronise our outlooks on upcoming challenge, but currently I am getting a negative feedback from you which certainly doesn't help us push above and beyond

>>108467915
>Technician positions are resume poison and will fuck up your ability to get hired for more senior level positions,
what 3rd world shithole is this a common phenomenon in?

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>in a call with coworker
>show them a patch i made to analyze a deployment and apply manifests and ad-hoc patch a production stack to include llama.cpp in a Docker container with open webui and custom mcp orchestrator kubernetes containers into the existing product namespace with cilium policy and traefik ingress routes to allow the mcp orchestrator to give a locally hosted model access to important internal resources
>he tells me "whatever you do dont mention this in our group meetings"

>>108473015
That's closer to justice than what we have in America.

Has anyone tried WFH full time in a job that is hybrid? I'm thinking GPS spoofing, maybe leaving a device in the office to route into over LTE then to the office wifi etc
How do most offices monitor employee attendance? an app with GPS? Wifi login?

>>108473692
Why do people say things like that, who does it work on?

>>108473851
are you retarded lmao

>>108473873
sour grapes because you'd never pull it off

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>>108472630
why do turdies think the 1st world is sunshine and rainbows? It takes fucking weeks if not months to get a job here that isn't minimum wage slavery, and all the minimum wage jobs are part time. How are you going to get a job and afford a $1.5k+ a month apartment if you're homeless? Unless you qualify for welfare (which also takes months to get) or you can rely on family or friends for money, you're shit out of luck. Try telling some homeless bum to apply to Mcdonalds or whatever, they'll get rejected.
The ladder is being ripped apart at every single strata of society, and the only way to go now is down.

>>108473966
Desu either get a job at walmart or go to a staffing agency and do line work you can be working tonight but yeah you'd have to find another bum or two or three to share an apartment with while you all got your WGU degrees in a year idk could be comfy if you like bums.

>>108474011
Oh crap that would probably be two or three years since you wouldn't be able to study full time.

>>108473862
>Why do people say things like that, who does it work on?
The reasoning was that im not allowed to have cool ideas, we have to wait for our boss to come up with it and then tell us he thinks his idea is cool
>>108473932
>waaahhh anime image
>holy shit kill yourself.png
How assmad must you be just because i used an image of an anime guy

>>108473966
America is actually a fantastic place to live if you're non-white since you get off the boat and NGOs immediately hand you a G-Wagon.

>>108473551
>>muh economy
>unemployment is at record lows
He doesn't know lmao

>>108472466
>How much would you say the disappearance of entry level positions is an american phenomenon?
All Gone (No Escape)

>>108474051
MIGAtards live in a separate reality altogether.
2016 Trump was fun, 2026 Trump has lost his mind.

>>108474184
He-he invaded Iran to prevent the Israelis from causing even more trouble, short and sweet and he's going to make Iran great again Paraguay too or whatever.

>>108466508
>Faggy ass fake and gay girljobs, exceljobs, hrjobs all catching up to us
How do I get into this? I don't know what half of those jobs do desu

>>108474184
sad trvke

So I got fired from my CTO job after 1 year, how do I get another job? Obviously I'm not looking for CTO.

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>>108474299
new thread