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Yes saar I builted my PC with Nvidia JeetForce 5080 graphics device and Cow Dung Ultra 270k processor how you know?

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, destroying game art direction with AI slop etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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bought a 9070xt
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>>108491534
>paying more than $250 for a gfx card
Retard.
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>>108491562
i sold my old one for 500 bux so it cost like ~ 250 bux
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FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5
FSR ML FG > DLSS FG
FSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray Reconstruction
FSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance Cache
Crimson Desert > RE9 Requiem
Nvidiot cope below
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>>108491585
>Crimson desert
Better on Nvidia.
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>>108491621
DLSS is sabatoged to look worse than fsr 2 in that game so no
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>>108491673
Fixed in 1.01.02.
https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/22565118/
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>>108491621
Why are you even replying to obvious bait?
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>108491914
>b-but it's f-fixed!!!
The cry of the nvidijeet. WEBM related is what DLSS 4 and 4.5 looks like on CP 2077 still never fixed and never will be
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>1748129492227912.webm
The poorfag cope is real.
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>>108491955
>it keeps going
Oh... Oh no no no no... LMAO.
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>>108491940
My 5090 mogs your entire rig you poor rock licking jeet, I have access to Nvidia AMD and Intel software, everything your computer does, mine does much better
If FSR was better, we'd use it, because Nvidia users can choose. amdpoors can't.
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>>108491955
>>108491965
KEK how butthurt you have to be? I'm literally on NEETbux and can afford a 4090...
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>>108491969
Why are you replying to obvious bait?
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if you search "gaming pc" on facebook marketplace you can literally find clueless normies selling their unused gaming pcs for 1/2 the price of what the RAM inside of them is worth
remember that not everyone follows tech news and component prices, go and exploit this while you can
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Nvidia xisters why does this keep happening. It's burning worse than my neo vagina after a bad dilation session! This is triggering my dysphoria so bad I think I'm gonna fucking KILL MYSELF
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>>108492090
now he can watch his airflow
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>>108492087
I've been flipping RAM for months now...
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>>108491527
When will prices drop??
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It just keeps happening...

https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-rx-9070-xt-nitro-hits-fifth-burned-power-cable-report
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>>108492109
shit amdbro, what is this?
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>>108492109
>>108492111
Lol AMD can do burning connectors too, Nvidia ain't got shit on us!
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You guys are literally arguing over which company makes better pcie add-in graphics boards
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>>108492129
I'm just fucking with the AMD retard, I don't even care. Nvidia is just as shit as a company.
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>>108492131
>Nvidia is just as shit as a company.
This.
I buy Nvidia crap because AMD doesn't have anything like CUDA, DLSS or 4090 / 5090.
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I looked at 140ppi+ screens exclusively for so long now anything below looks horrendous
either you ppimaxx your monitor or buy a tv and place it further away
those 5k 180hz asus monitors looking actually viable now
samsung 5k,6k dropping soon
sure it's ips slop but atleast it's crisp
seems I always was a resolutionfag after all
5k oleds coming out will be an easy buy, they will probably be 165-180hz too guessing
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>>108492169
Get a 24inch 4k monitor if you want real ppi, 140 is still shit.
>inb4 muh 60hz
You dont need more, stop being a fpsfag
https://japannext.fr/en/products/deskwork-monitor-23-8-4k-uhd
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>>108492192
muh 60hz
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$3500 for a prebuilt with a 5090.
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>>108492201
Cheaper than the GPU itself!
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>>108492201
>>108492210
At this point just buy a gayming laptop
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>>108492201
That's a good deal.
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Anyone did ARM PC build recently?
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>>108491565
>my old one for 500 bux so it cost like ~ 250 bux
So you bought it for 750 bucks...
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4.5 framegen is literally too good to not use now. idk what voodoo black magic they did but the latency has been reduced a LOT
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>>108492192
4k 24" is alot lower than 27" 5k
just saying 140ppi because that is what I use most (other than a phone)
and things below look real bad

>>inb4 muh 60hz
>You dont need more, stop being a fpsfag
literally need more, 60hz feels horrendous even operating around on

>>108492201
I looked at those in /my country/ here too when looking around for prebuilt 5090s and actually some are decently priced considering the price of 5090s now
lemme check.....
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>>108492324
imagine if they fused reflex 2 alongside it, man i would hate to be one of those retards that boughted a RDNA 4 GPU
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss-4-5-dynamic-multi-frame-generation-6x-mode-released/
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>>108492357
>requires nvidia app
skip
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What should I look for when it comes to an ssd? And should I get a heat sink? Is the Corsair MP600 elite gonna give me problems?
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>>108492357
new framegen model is out, less latency, less artifacts proper hub rescaling
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i hope anyone who buys an nvidia gpu dies in a car crash where they are stuck in the vehicle and burn to death after the gas tank ignites and engulfs their shitbox in flames, then i hope that during their funeral their disgusting ghoulified burnt corpse falls out of the casket and their mother also dies from choking on her vomit she attempts to expel upon seeing this
that's all
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>My PC occasionally will not power on unless I throw the switch on my PSU off and on
>I have no idea why
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>>108492388
I hope one day you realize nothing you do matters, there is no great karma and the universe is indifferent, there is no system you are just falling for the kool-aid of some retards looking to take advantage of people that have a hero-complex and believe they must save the world or fight against evil.
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>>108492324
>>108492356
>>108492357
>>108492381
What's the full version of the new Nvidia App? Self-update never works for me.
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>>108492403
Based. Hope that sad fuck realizes that one day.
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>>108492388
>i hope
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>>108492406
>https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss-4-5-dynamic-multi-frame-generation-6x-mode-released/

Is on the beta branch, you'll need to opt-in to beta releases to get the latest nvidia app that has the update.
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>>108492411
I am opt-in, checked in the app but the app doesn't show me a update.
Just tell me the full version under about in the app pls and I can get it from Nvidia archives.
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>>108492403
That goy is too full of microplastics and flouride to have any iq left arguing for the benefit of the next international mega corporation
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>>108492419
11.0.7.228
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>>108492419
nta but it literally just popped up like 10 seconds ago
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>>108492434
Thankies!<3
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Njudea is one with Israel
Jensen Huang was on epstien island
People who buy njudea cards are satanists and support child sacrifice to moloch
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>>108492362
Just use NvidiaProfileInspector.
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>>108492450
...or maybe I literally just don't care?
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>>108492450
How does this effect the frame rates I get in games?
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>>108492458
>>108492362
you still need a somewhat up to date nvidia driver and they all have performance degradation and bugs that are worse than last years driver
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>>108492510
While having DLSS support and still being faster than AMD? So...
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It's the same mentally ill people in these threads who all happen to own a Radeon card.
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>>108492517
nvidia driver has performance degradation and bugs that are worse than last years driver and amd driver on windows & linux
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>>108492521
>ask for handouts
>doesnt provide a crypto wallet address
his actions dont even make sense, probably why he thought saving $100 on a gpu was worth it
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>>108492526
>>108492517
You have to be giga retarded to use 2026 Nvidia drivers and 2025 Nvidia drivers are slower than AMD in 2026.
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>>108492526
>>108492532
My 4090 still runs faster than any current AMD GPU in games like Crimson Desert and I have DLSS support, even with 2026 drivers.
So...
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>>108492526
>9900X3D
Irrelevant benchmark.
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>>108492526
>>108492532
Lol and AMD still manages to be shittier
Amazing
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>>108492526
why is your latency so bad? I have 60.2ns with a 9700X, CL30/6000MT RAM and 4080 with up to date drivers
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>>108492560
It's obviously not (his) PC.
The nico nigger had to ask /pcbg/ to help tighten his garbage memory OC.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108455970/#108465021
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>>108492532
latest drivers are better than 576.88 from 2025 anon, you are falling for nicotroon propaganda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FJFcDmWWbw
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>>108492583
oh man, that nicotroon guy got absolutely fucked by the silicon lottery, or maybe he's just a retard
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>>108492592
>he's just a retard
The voltages and timings on that diarrhea points to this.
Dumb ass nigger thinks juicing up the Vsoc gives him a more stable OC.
And we all know this little shithead has all the time in the world to learn how to do this properly, or at least copy credible people's looser OCs,
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>>108492623
You're blinded by your hatred retard I hadn't even changed any timings from the EXPO and was just trying to raise frequency per buildzoids advice to raise vsoc for higher mclk. In my post even I said I thought it was probably something with timings
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why do you guys like fiddling with bios settings? It's literally the most boring useless shit I have ever done
did it once before and it was a total waste of time and just reverted back to stock
maybe my autism power level wasn't even that high to begin with
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>>108492658
No one takes you seriously, we don't want to fully read your diarrhea.
Memory timings are expressed in clock cycles. Higher memory speed means shorter cycles.
If you don't adjust the timings accordingly, there comes a point where the memory chip doesn't have enough time to finish a task before the next one starts.
You're getting errors because you don't understand this simple concept and needed someone with an NVIDIA card to clear this up for you.
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>>108492668
Yeah, you're a normie. Sorry.
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>>108492668
A stable memory overclock improves performance across almost every task on your PC (memory bandwidth and/or latency sensitive).
Whether those gains are worth it is down to personal preference.
Stability testing is a bitch though, it's better to loosen some timings for a daily system and have a separate benchmarking OC profile.
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>>108492668
Because it’s fun and feels good.
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is there a usecase for more than 8gb vram?
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>>108492878
play the latest aaa slop (none are good)
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>>108492878
Bandwidth.
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>Next up, is the 5th Gen RT core, and NVIDIA is chasing a 100% gen-over-gen increase in real-time Path Tracing performance over the current RTX 50-series "Blackwell" series.

>As for the traditional pure raster 3D graphics performance, it's predicted that "Rubin" will post modest generational gains, ranging between 30% to 35% SKU-to-SKU versus the current RTX 50-series. This would be banking on the IPC, clock speed, and energy-efficiency advances brought about by 3 nm and the new "Rubin" SM (streaming multiprocessor).
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>>108492947
>6080 will have less vram than the 4090
The new 1080Ti?
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>>108492947
>only 30% raster improvement
i have ai fatigue
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>>108492954
>The new 1080Ti?
Always was.
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>>108491527
>Yes saar I builted my PC with Nvidia JeetForce 5080 graphics device and Cow Dung Ultra 270k processor how you know?
How do you not get an insta temp ban for that?
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>>108492947
Hard to imagine NVIDIA increase the die size & memory capacity for the RTX 6080 in this market.
This memory market is a perfect excuse to keep the 6080 @ 16GB VRAM if Radeon follows along.
That card will probably cost nearly $2,000 if memory supplies don't improve.
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>>108492947
Seems fake
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>>108493006
>Seems fake
It probably is, none of the "reputable" leakers have said anything yet.
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>>108492828
I use my igpu and my memory sucks.
I have it at 6000 cl30 right now is there anything that would make the igpu run better?
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>>108492129
>You guys
There's one guy :
https://vocaroo.com/1cNaaihxvNC4
https://vocaroo.com/12B7YHnAYj16
https://vocaroo.com/1pweR7oU7bhR
https://vocaroo.com/13vv77kPdIQd
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>>108493002
They don't have a choice. It's about bandwidth not capacity. The 5080 is already eating up its bandwidth so the 6080 would presumably need more ram for bandwidth reasons. If they could sell the 6080 with 16gb of ram they would. Same goes for the 5070 if they could sell it with 8gb of ram they would. 5080 would het 12gb if it didn't shoot itself in the foot by doing so.
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>>108492129
>>108493045
Serious business.
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>>108493026
Overclocking it?
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>>108493026
The iGPU needs to access the system memory.
Higher memory bandwidth from the OC would improve gaming performance.
A Ryzen 8000G CPU can usually run 8000 MT/s speeds if the motherboard isn't your bottleneck.
The memory sticks might need active cooling at that speed because you'll most likely have to give it over 1.45V.

I don't know whether the performance gains are worth the hours/days spent stability testing.
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>>108492129
BRO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MY PCI-EXPRESS DEVICE IS BETTER THAN YOURS BECAUSE THE TSMC TRANSISTORS ARE ARRANGED A CERTAIN AWAY
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>>108493065
Wouldn't that make it more prone to errors? The problem I'm having has something to do with corrupted data I think. Its nit something thats noticeable when running the ram as system memory but when I use it for my igpu it comes out sporadically corrupted. Somebody suggested clearing the shader cache so I'll try that before I mess with any oc or timings.
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>>108493078
Im just using it for hardware acceleration.
I have a 5080 but I try and keep it idle while im just browsing the web and using light programs. The video playback sometimes corrupts under heavy decoding. Its not something that it should have a problem with but I think its the ram getting corrupted.
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>>108493126
playback should be fine in dedicated players like vlc or mpv. browsers are a different story. if it corrupts in mpc-hc you have a setup issue.
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>>108493126
>The video playback sometimes corrupts under heavy decoding
Did you manually tune the CPU and/or memory? Improper memory OC can affect the iGPU's stability.
There's quite a well known one where Buildzoid's tight tRAS recommendation was causing iGPU instabilities in Ryzen DDR5 CPUs.
I'd disable XMP/EXPO to check whether the playback corruptions are happening at stock memory settings.
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>>108492324
>>108492356
>>108492357
Just tried with Crimson Desert and I can't tell the difference in latency... I might actually leave it enabled.
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>>108493155
>>108493179
>tRAS
Yup, that sounds like the problem I'll try that out.
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>>108492411
>>108493198
Why do we buy AMD again?
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Has anyone in here tried the dynamic framegen yet?
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>>108493230
You posted a different thing.
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>>108493230
>dynamic framegen
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>>108493238
i choose wrong snip
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I just tried the new framegen and it looks ghosty and feels weird
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>>108493227
working drivers
sad the 4090 loses
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>>108493227
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What card should I get if I want to upgrade from 7090 GRE?
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>>108493279
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will UDNA save AMD gpus?
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>>108493272
>1% lows
>at 1080p
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>>108493272
>1080p 1%
retardo but what do you expect from amdrones
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Kita is shit
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>>108493295
you forgot
>4090
>hugely outdated benchmark
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>>108493289
Myth: amd will catch up to nvidia once they release a new gpu uarch with updated hardware
Fact: radeon gpus have reached their limit and cannot be improved any further
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>>108493306
he's hugely retarded
and also indian
and also lives in canada
and also a pedophile
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>>108492108
somewhat soon if it is believed that openai and other ai hyperscalers have been putting in intent to purchase and are now no longer going to follow through purchasing.
hardware stock should start normalizing again.
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>>108492108
Why would the prices drop
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>>108493340
This.
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>>108493309
Trvke: Intel will surpass AMD
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>>108493289
no but you'll still have to suffer fanboys spamming tech tuber slop everywhere for ~6 months post announcement.
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>>108493227
>we
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HOLY SHIT NEW GPU ANNOUNCEMENT FROM AMD

FUCK FUCK THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING FUCK

WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK FUCK YES

WE DID IT WE ARE SO FUCKING IN
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>>108493370
HOLY SHIT

This is it bros

This is how we win

Line 231

Line 238

we won
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>>108493382
ALso would it be worth it to trade my 7900 GRE for $340 towards a new 9070 XT?
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>>108493382
pradeep is getting promoted to tech lead with this code
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>>108492668
>why do you guys like fiddling with bios settings? It's literally the most boring useless shit I have ever done
old habbits. for intel cpu's they have figured out binning and base clock stuff to the point that the only thing you can do is lower voltage to stop it from overheating under load.
the 10 series was the last one you could actually get performance out of by overclocking because the 11 and on all run incredibly hot out of the box there's no more frequency to squeeze out of them.
memory is probably the last real thing you can get meaningful performance out of, you're not really getting anything significant out of OCing a gpu, you're already running everything at your monitor's max framerate as is with even a mid tier gpu, just undervolt it a bit if your temps suck and go about your gaming.
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>>108493227
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>>108493334
Yay

>>108493340
Look above

>>108493272
>>108493295
>>108493299

I hate fanboys so much it's unreal
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>>108493370
>>108493382
they're rebranding the name because its tainted from the counter strike bans
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>>108493227
SIKE
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>>108493389
Pls respond
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>>108493414
>I hate fanboys so much it's unreal
Same. I dislike AMD and Nvidia equally.
It's funny to see people cope about their favorite GPU manufacturer though, cherry picking retarded benchmarks, etc.
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>>108493306
Retardeons treat that benchmark as some kind of holy scripture.
That old benchmark only proves Nixxes and Insomniac were out of their depth with PC porting at the time.

>>108493389
It's a feel's bad upgrade. 9070 XT isn't +$300 better than the GRE.
You should've waited™ for the 9070 XT to begin with.
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next gen consoles $999 prediction
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>>108493448
Less than my GPU or monitor.
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>>108493448
>999$ american
Single mothers are going to have a heart attack this Christmas.
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>>108493448
This means the next cross-generation cycle will last even longer.
Games will be designed for the Series S & Switch 2 past 2030.
The phrase of the day is 'addressable market'.
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>>108493484
$999 is the premium version
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>>108493498
>The phrase of the day is 'addressable market'.
They figured that out with smartphones all the way back with angry birds.
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>>108493434
sure
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so 5080 and 5070ti are already discontinued
amd next gen supports dx13 while nvidia is still fiddling on dx12 gaytracing
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>>108493603
>me when I transition from just being extremely disingenuous to making shit up.
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>>108493603
>amd next gen supports dx13
what about current gen amd?
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>>108493658
best price to performance on the market and it'll age like wine on linux with open source devs doing all the hard work backporting new features to it
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>>108493658
current gen amd is feature complete.
opensil, 2nm, dx13, amd is doing next gen things while nvidia is last gen same as intel
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>>108493724
none of that will come to current gen amd? does that mean I got scammed out of $689?
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>>108493739
No, you bought what you paid for.
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Is it safe to buy Intel 14th gen nowadays? I know it's a dead platform, but I already have a 13400 on a Strix B760I board, and would like to get 14700 (non-K) for faster build times when coding.
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Disregard all Canadians including the resident AMD schizo fanboy

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific uses + your BUDGET & COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 7/9800X3D, 14600K
Budget: 12400, 225F, 7500F
Workstation: 270K
*New AM5 AGESA BIOS dropped. Update for better RAM refresh.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount iffy)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x64GB (high-end)

>STORAGE
Keep SSD firmware updated
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Save money buy Gen 4 SSD
HDD prices increased due to AI

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
Midrange: 5070
Budget 4k: 5070ti
-High-end: 5090
-AMD: 9070/xt

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
Ask before you spend $600+ on a monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Use Noctua/Akasa silicone pins for quieter case fan use
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>>108493833
Good to go with updates. Warranty is 5 years now anyways.
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>>108492357
>Highguard
Na-Nani!?
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>>108493833
buy the 14700k instead and undervolt it manually, it will be a good machine
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Is the Lancool 216 still a good pick in current year? I hate the ports location in the 217.
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>>108493921
Somehow, highguard returned.
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>>108493921
ashes of creation too
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>>108493921
New drivers?
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>>108493833
>I already have a 13400
you're set til the 18 series maybe longer.
we've been pretty walled out on hardware for the last 7+ years now, very few new instruction sets etc are worth upgrading your current working hardware for.
a decade ago you'd want to upgrade every 2-3 series like 4 series to 7 then to 9 or 10, but now if you have a 9900k you're probably still running everything just fine.
i still have an i9 10 series and haven't had a single issue yet. 10 core 20 thread @5ghz is more than enough power for anything i throw at it.
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>>108493921
the nvidia monopoly is so strong they're bringing back games that shut down
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>>108492592
still funny that AMD gave their biggest fan the worst cow dung silicon from the hyderabad factory
but even so i hope he gets a nice overclock going
after all framemogging is how you earn respect in /pcbg/
>>108493833
yes
would recommend applying these since it's an ASUS board:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108005927/#108007922
>>108493924
undervolting on B760 is possible but not ideal since you can't use the adaptive offset mode
with a VRM offset you're undervolting the whole VF curve with a static value, including the lowest 800mhz point
>>108494030
those extra E-cores really help for code compilation
which is what his goal is, faster build times
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>>108493942
216 is still good if it's spacious enough for your components and future GPU upgrades.
The front fans will run loud at stock speeds, you'll need to find a noise/performance sweet spot.
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>>108493921
>support for games even the devs gave up on

and AMD cannot even support cards released last year with new updates
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>>108491527
instead of buying new hardware, I spent 2 weeks optimizing inferencing in python (:
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>>108494044
>with a VRM offset you're undervolting the whole VF curve with a static value
that's totally fine, it's how we do it on amd, just don't get a crazy undervolt
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>>108494072
i don't know if curve optimizer applies across the whole range or only in boost but you don't use VRM offsets on AMD either
on zen 2 that was the only option and then it started clock stretching quickly since the "expected" and "actual" voltage differed too much
>just don't get a crazy undervolt
yeah you can probably still get 50mv or so, like i said it's possible, just not ideal

btw it would work on both a 14700 and 14700K
it's a motherboard feature so intel can't block it because you didn't pay the Z790 tax
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>>108494131
>because you didn't pay the Z790 tax
if you're not getting a Z board you should double check the VRM setup.
getting a high end cpu and trash motherboard means shit power delivery to the cpu and tons of performance left on the table.
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i hope the prices on pcs go up a lot more and stay up, eventually thirdies and browns won't be able to afford them and the internet culture will be reminiscent of the 90's/2000's again. I hope.
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can you even call yourself a pc guy if you're not running super tight tertiaries, secondaries, primaries and mem clocks while at same time overclocking gpu mem clocks by 16%?
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>>108494391
i can because i was so spoiled by b-die that the way ddr5 craps itself every time you touch anything that isn't trefi/tfrc/primaries made me give up on trying to fiddle with tertiaries/turn-arounds/etc.

I still tightened what little I could.
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>>108494454
I wish I could get 32gb b-dies, it would be so much fun tuning it, I have 64GB 16Gbit hynix CJRs, I have two kits even, only using one
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>>108494465
if you had ddr5 it would probably suck the passion out of ram tuning for you too
it's so ass
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>>108494391
>gpu mem clocks
k e k
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>>108494391
>ancient cpu
>not best gpu
>tuner
misaligned efforts
aka autism
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>>108494550
unironically the highest fps per cost setup ever made in the entire history of computers akshually
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>>108494569
>this baby gets 500fps
>monitor runs at 244hz
shiggydiggy
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>>108494454
hynix should do really good subtimings, no?
>>108494465
you can get 2x16 3200C14 for like $200 on ebay right now
yes it's not gonna be some ultra rare god bin but if you want B-die you can have it
>>108494550
aka based
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Recommend me good table that doesn’t wobble my screen
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>>108494654
DIY with a real wood tabletop and proper legs
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>>108493446
Exactly, I got 2 PCs one with AMD one with Nvidia,it literally doesn't matter
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My SN850X gets too hot despite having a built-in heatsink, but moving it to another slot on the motherboard is not possible. Is there a way of putting one of these mini fans near it, like hanging from the CPU cooler or something? Or can I remove its heatsink and use one with active cooling?
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>>108494747
thermalright hr-09 pro
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>>108494747
I don't know what would stop you from using a small fan on it
attach it with some fishing line or something idk
removing the built in heatsink however can be risky
thats why I never buy ssds with heat sinks, you can get a better one for like $5
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>>108494654
>>108494690
Find a good sewing machine table.
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>friend gets massive bonus payment
>builds absolute unit of a computer with a 5090
>keeps his old 1080p office monitor
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what kind of sorcery is this, how the fuck is the latency so good with FG now, this is probably even bigger than DLSS 4.5 and they somehow did not even announce it
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>>108494857
proof?
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>>108494857
Wouldn't use it for FPS games but it's good enough you can't tell, specially when playing something like Crimson Desert with a controller.
Compared to like 2 years ago when even trying it with something like Cyberpunk 2077 where you could instantly tell and would never willingly use it, it's hugely better.
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>>108495111
Daniel owen video https://youtu.be/iIvpt1CfKKI?si=c-DHWm7wx-pUq4BA&t=319 it literally goes from mid 45 pci latency with no FG to 40s 39s with mfg x4 but the retard did not even mention it
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Why can't I see the new mfg in my nvidia app
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>>108495135
the thing is that in cyberpunk it actually REDUCES PCL latency, even at low 20s using x6 it did not even increase, shit is definetly using a different version of reflex but the retard did not even notce it
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>>108494857
Why doesn't Dynamic frame generation work with Resident evil requiem?

>>108495147
You have to enable experimental mode in settings.
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>>108495153
Last time I tried it was just x2 and I used Nvidia FrameView and PLC latency increased like 20ms. But as I said, that was like 2 years ago and I could instantly tell. I can't tell anymore.
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>>108494857
>>108495141
Benchmark software has been known to give false numbers when testing fg.

>Fake frames
>fake pixels
>fake numbers.
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>>108495167
>PLC
PCL* derp
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>>108495163
>You have to enable experimental mode in settings.
What are the downsides
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>>108495174
It's literally software made to test it, tardo.
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>>108495180
Nothing. You just have more options.
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>>108495174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KdTajByXw

Check this, it actually fucking reduce latency daniel owen is a retard
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>>108495180
It's beta. It's not released yet, you can use it on your accord.
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Are nzxt cases and PSUs actually good? I don't care about le heckin evil subscription drama.
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>PCL:46.92ms
literally unplayable framegen lag
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I said about two months ago that, by April 1st, Sam Altman would be found dead from a ketamine overdose.
Close enough.
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>>108495581
too bad you can't od on ketamine by itself
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>>108491527
is that poop?
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Man, whoever said to avoid miniled monitors is a retard. The AOC I got has insanely good blacks with local dimming maxed it, it actually turns off backlight if needed. Haven't seen inky blacks like that since plasma TVs.
Only downside is that if the area has some minimal white text on top of black background, the white text will by pretty dark since the backlight is mostly off in that area. For example if you move the mouse cursor to a black part of the screen, the cursor will suddenly go darker. But that's an acceptable trade off.

Also this monitor has MBR which makes motion look fantastic (for an LCD panel anyway).
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>>108495748
aoc mbr is like 60hz tho
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Is this a good deal?
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>>108495984
yes
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>>108495748
Is it the Q27G40XMN or the Q27G3XMN?
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>>108495390
Some NZXT PSUs are quite highly rated in Hardware Buster/Cybenetics' review.
It makes sense for these case manufacturers to pay for higher-end PSU designs to protect their brand image.
Fractal's new Ion 3 PSUs are made by Seasonic.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
https://hwbusters.com/psus/who-really-makes-your-power-supply/

The case is personal preference. My friend has the H7 Flow, and he's happy with it.
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>>108496145
U27G4XM.

about the only thing I can't find is MBR Sync, so I either use MBR or Adaptive Sync.
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>>108492109
>>108492111
>>108492117
Welcome to the club lad,
Check your cables
NOW
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>>108496319
I'm happy for you.
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>>108496465
I'm too busy enjoying my 5090, but thanks.
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Looking to potentially upgrade a monitor. Ryzen 7900x
MSI MAG b650m Mortar
G skill trident 64gb ddr5-6000 cl30
Crucial mx 500 1tb (scratch drive)
Silicon power UD90 4tb
Acer predator bifrost 9070xt
Asus AP201
Seasonic focus gx 750w
Location: Canada
What monitor should I buy? Equal mix video editing, watching shit and playing vidya, currently have 2 144hz 1440p ips ultragears. Much prefer the 32” over 27” because how far back I set from my monitors so would want it to be 32”. Would only spend about 500 maple bucks
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>>108496542
Forgot to mention I will not buy an Asus monitor no matter how good it is or good a deal it may be
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>>108496542
for video editing you need it to be 4k, for gaming I always recommend ultrawide
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>>108496559
>I will not buy an Asus monitor
I was thinking of buying an Asus recently, why don't you want to buy from them?
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Should I throw away my boxes? I’ve had my PC for maybe 3-4+ years now. I’m thinking the only useful box to keep is my GPU box and stuff like my PSU, CPU Cooler, etc. can go.
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>>108496564
>for video editing you need it to be 4k
I have been editing for years on 1440p I don’t need 4k, the cost + how much harder it is to drive just isn’t worth it. Then you have to scale everything up too which I don’t like.
>for gaming I always recommend ultra wide
I have an ultra wide at my FIFO job I use half of the time and distinctly prefer a standard 16:9.

>>108496596
I simply hate Asus and their anti-consumer practices, their warranty and customer support is awful so I will never gamble a big ticket item with them, I’d sooner gamble on chinkshit
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>>108495748
is it actually as good as oled
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>>108496618
Keep the boxes for the parts you plan to resell.
If you need to RMA a component, they won't send back the original box.
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>nvidia was able to improve pathtraching performance another 20% but was not ready to ship it

Unironically RDNA4 is so shit nvidia is holding back

You could have been hitting 60 fps with pathtracing at 1440p with dlss performance on a 5060 ti
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>>108496749
AMD really is the reason everything sucks.
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Is this a good deal?
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>>108496778
That's a shitty looking PC case.
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>>108496778
emm bro
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>>108491527
Hello funny 4channers who live inside my puter, can you recommend a good PC around the $1.5k-2k range on this website, please? Prebuilts are made of individual PC parts and I have to make my choice based on that so that counts as a valid question for this thread, right? I've reluctantly decided to downgrade from Windows 7 to W11 but only because of college requirements
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/category/prebuilt-pcs/
Prebuilt PC reccos on other websites are also welcome!
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>>108496626
>is it actually as good as oled
I haven't used oleds before so I can't comment on that but it still has the IPS problems of non-uniform colors due to backlight bleed (one color is blu-ish, the other is orange-ish), and viewing angles are not perfect. But black levels are much better, and motion blur is reduced.

It's not as good as my old plasma screen or a CRT, but it really tries to reduce a lot of LCDs inherent faults. And it does not burn in like OLEDs which is a huge plus.

>>108496749
>Unironically RDNA4 is so shit nvidia is holding back
RDNA4 only shipped low/midrange cards overclocked up the wazoo. They were trying to make chiplet based flagships but had some problems with it, and decided to not waste extra resources and prioritise RDNA5 instead.
I mean if they made some insane 600mm2 flagship it probably would've been powerful, but it would not have been economical to waste silicon space on it when they make a lot more money on Zen chiplets.

I just hope they finally got chiplet gpus working so they can drop a bomb as big as zen 2 was with its separate IO and Compute chiplets.
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>>108496798
Prebuilt PC GML 99691
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>>108496798
Best deal right now.
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>>108496749
>You could have been hitting 60 fps with pathtracing at 1440p with dlss performance on a 5060 ti
Needs a lot more than 20% to hit your target but it's nice to see Nvidia fine wine tech will be in effect for plenty of time.
>>108496778
Don't understand how this is /pcbg/ but I'm going to guess no, go to a flea market or stop being poor
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>>108496815
actually it doesn't runtime is 13.3ms, to put this into prespective it means a jump from 59.2 fps in average to 75.76, a 20% increase in pathtraced runtime means around 40% increase in raster thats how much behind AMD is
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>>108496808
>>108496809
Ty for the reccos frens, I think I'll go with >>108496809! This is a load off my mind! I've been putting this off for so many years!
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>>108496969
Yeah, decent call. GPU value alone is like 60% of that prebuilt's price.
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>nvidia promotes thing
>it doesn't work the way it was advertised and is missing features/functionaility
>manuel, jacob, and sometimes tim have to play defense for the next 5 weeks
i bet the paycheck from nvidia is worth it tho
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>>108496749
its depressing to see that amd can't even beat nvidia operating at 80% of its performance
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I just accidentally scratched my monitor something fierce and might need to replace it.
Which of these sound good? Unfortunately my space is really limited so it has to be a 22" monitor
ViewSonic VS2247
Acer - EK220Q
ASUS - VP227HF

My old monitor was a Viewsonic VA2212m-LED. I've heard a lot of good things about that Acer one, but I'm kinda interested in the ASUS
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>>108497266
Examples?
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>>108497309
today my nigga
they've been shilling dfg and 6x fg since january and it turns out it doesn't even work with vsync making it completely useless. now on twitter and the nvidia forums the reps have to make FAQs and reply to all the seethe
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>>108497319
People still use Vsync?
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>>108497343
just shut up retard
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>>108497266
seethe
>>108497319
>vsync
XD
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>>108497343
Running a game at a frame rate higher than your display's refresh rate has several downsides. The most obvious is "screen tearing," which occurs when a display receives a new frame from a game in the middle of refreshing. The top half of your screen will show one frame while the bottom half shows another.

A less-obvious problem is "microstuttering." When a display's refresh rate is lower than the game's frame rate (e.g., a display that renders at 60 Hz while the game renders at 70 FPS), the game will render a frame before the display is able to show it. Over time, the display and the game begin to drift away from each other, until eventually the game renders two frames in a row before the display is able to show you one. This results in a "microstutter" where the game looks like it's jumping forward a frame.

Many games have a setting called V-Sync to solve these problems.
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>>108497363
>he took their retarded bait
good luck
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>>108497365
V-Sync has one major downside; when the game is sleeping, it is not processing input from keyboards and mice, and those input events are queued up for processing on the next frame instead. This results in higher input latency (the amount of time between an input event and the time you see its effects on-screen).

This input latency added by V-Sync can be eliminated if you also enable both NVIDIA G-Sync/AMD Freesync and NVIDIA Reflex'/AMD Antilag 2. NVIDIA Reflex/AMD Antilag 2 is an option on many NVIDIA/AMD graphics cards that reduces input latency by inserting a sleep interval before input processing, meaning the game has more time to collect the latest input before rendering the next frame. Because the sleep interval that Reflex inserts is an estimate, it is possible that the game will miss a display refresh deadline (which would result in a stutter). But if you also have G-Sync/Freesync enabled (see above), your display will automatically adjust to match the effective frame rate, and you will not experience a stutter problem.

For all these reasons, its recommend enabling V-Sync, NVIDIA G-Sync/Freesync, and NVIDIA Reflex/AMD Antilag 2 all together when all three features are available. Please note that enabling all three settings will limit your frame rate to slightly below your monitor's refresh rate. This is by design, and is usually the smoothest-looking and lowest input latency settings combination.
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>>108496798 here, could I get another recco please? The desktop I was going to buy from microcenter can only be picked up from a store and there is no microcenter store in my state! Also all other places that are selling this computer are doing so for higher prices with worse specs, so...
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>>108497363
Yeah, you just use a variable refresh rate monitor for that. You don't need a software solution.
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>don't fall for retarded bait
>don't fall for retarded bait
>don't fall for retarded bait
>don't fall for retarded bait
>don't fall for retarded bait
it's SO hard
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>>108497409
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA, but I want to!
*gives a (You) to nV shill*
*gives a (You) to AMD shill*
Oof, now I'm fine.
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>Dynamic Framegen is bad. Why? I-it just is okay!
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i have hobbies spanning a wide variety of topics and i swear to fucking God every single one has the red v blue cargo tribal contingent
it really is just hard wired in our dna to pick a side and defend it
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>>108497406
Vsync is required for Gsync. FPS cap alone does nothing.
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>>108497319
When did Nvidia say that DFG would work with outdated tech like vsync?
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so amdrones are just running around with tearing and they have the audacity to complain about anything???????? lmao..
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>>108497447
Radeon users are like Democrats (cringe) and Nvidia is Republican (based)
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>>108497449
No it isn't?
VRR entirely replaces Vsync.
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DO NOT REPLY
HE IS RETARDED
DO NOT REPLY
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>>108497389
i can personally recommend this even though it’s 800 dollars more than when i purchased it for my sister a few months ago
it’s badass
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>AMDrones once again exposing themselves as being poorfags for complaining about not having a standard hardware feature that's been around for like 10 years.

It's time to buy a new monitor. Your 10-year-old BenQ 1440p IPS 60hz monitor isn't cutting it any more.
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the amount of misinformation in the pc space is actually impressive and what's funny is someone that reads this won't realize i am talking about them
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how brown coded do you have to be to not be able to afford a 250 dollar monitor
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>>108491527
Dear 4chan, I come to you today for advice. Please recommend a decent prebuilt desktop PC around the $1.8k-2.3k range. I've reluctantly decided to downgrade from my current Windows 7 PC to W11 due to college requirements

>>108497524
Oh thank you, I'll try to find a link to that PC for that price and I'll keep it in mind as I accept more reccos!
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Fixed my PC by throwing in years older, mismatched DDR4 I had laying around.
For a week my PC was having numerous BSODs suddenly that I couldn't seem to troubleshoot no matter what, it was having massive slowdowns. So I did that, going from 16gb to 32gb, I didn't even think it would boot but it has been running as smooth as before and hasn't slowed down or bsod. Why did my PC stop being compatable with 16gb?
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>>108497575
used to do this with ddr3 ram and one day one of the sticks literally exploded in its socket
the machine kept working that one lane was just toast
had like 2 sticks of 8 GB, a 4 and a 2 and the 4 blew up
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>>108497540
i boughted one like this and use it alongside DLSDSR to play at 4k and i learned the hard way that display ports do not have enouhg bandwidth to support HDR mode above 144 fps at 4k
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>>108497589
thats what you get for not using hdmi
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Anons why are you so hellbent on shilling instead of helping you fellow Anons?
It's not like those corporations are paying you for this.
Why can't we simply get along?
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Bros is there such a thing as a simple coaxial to rj45 adapter?
I want to use this little Beryl router on my desk, but I don’t have an Ethernet port on the wall, only a coaxial outlet and this fucking router has no coaxial port.
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>>108497650
Search for Ethernet over Coaxial Converter
but that's slow as fuck.
Anon, please fix your shit.
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>>108497663
Damn really, is there no decent performing adapters,
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>>108497668
look for MoCA adapters
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>>108491527
What's a good CPU to pair with a 3060ti? I use my PC for a bunch of things but the heaviest use case would be gaming. Still, I don't usually play AAA stuff and I don't need ultra graphics or whatever, I also play at 1080p (but I DO prefer 144fps whenever possible)
I'd rather go AMD cause I don't want Intel shit rusting on me, I'm a 3rd world poorfag so the setup needs to last quite a while. To put it in perspective: I'm still running an i7 7700 and it started feeling slow just recently.
I'm gonna base the rest of the setup (mobo, ram, etc.) on the CPU, so don't worry about that, I just want something that's not gonna be a bottleneck for my GPU or be bottlenecked by it. Thanks anons.
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anyone else panic when their screen flickers or does a glitch
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Lads, where the fuck can I find a decent CRT monitor nowadays? I feel like if you are in europe you are just fucked regardless.
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>>108497673
Holy shit MoCA adapters are expensive, fuck that. Can buy a home router for cheaper.
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>>108497735
i mean the 7800x3d is the mid build standard at this point so id recommend that if you’re going amd
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>>108497748
they don't make that anymore
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>>108497584
Am I safe?
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im surprised nobody has come up with a CRT display emulation software or a corrective lens to put over your screen to emulate the effect of using a CRT considering the enthusiast market for such a thing
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>>108497797
shader glass
shader beam
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I got a good deal
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>>108497735
>I'm poor what do I pair with a poor GPU (in 2026)
An AMD class 600 from AM4/AM5 would do and you will not be "bottlenecked" by the loss of <10 FPS you might experience by not having the latest and greatest X3Ds. Even so, going AMD now with cost efficiency in mind is dum dum when the 250K Plus has come into the picture.
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>>108497832
doesnt show the price
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>>108497797
There are shaders that emulate the electron beam of a CRTand greatly reduce motion blur, you need a high refresh rate monitor (OLED preferably) iirc double the target framerate, so for example if you want to emulate a CRT at 60hz, you need at least a 120hz monitor.
Check it out https://testufo.com/crt, the shader is applied to the left part of the animation. It is VERY noticeable on my screen, I can see the text on the buoy perfectly fine, but it looks blurry as fuck without the shader.
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>>108497832
32 inches is fucking massive.
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>>108497875
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>>108497875
Yeah it might be a bit too big but we will see.

>>108497856
£579
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>>108497875
It's also got a mode where you set it to 27" and it only uses that much of the monitor
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>>108497305
They're all VA panels, I'd get either the ASUS or the Acer. ViewSonic appears to be a 75 Hz VA monitor, it will have the worst ghosting (slowest response time).
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>>108497897
Good deal for a 4K 32" OLED monitor.
27" 1440p 360 Hz QD-OLEDs used to cost that much.
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have you guys ever cloned a new boot drive? does it just werks or does it have annoying issues, I don't want to format but if I must I will?
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How fucked am I?
For the third cooler I’ve ever installed in my life, I chose a Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 and it was an incredible pain in the ass to get aligned properly because of the way the heat sinks are. I didn't lift it up, but I definitely slid it back and forth and maybe tilted it. I am picturing giant air bubbles underneath there now, but I finally got it screwed in properly.
I have no idea how to install the fans using these wire clips and the videos I see online all skip that process. There’s no good picture in the instructions but the side of the box seems to show that I need to stretch and bend them, but it seems like I’d have to stretch them quite a lot to match the picture. I’m going to bed a broken man and will try that tomorrow.
Oh, and I see these shrouds on the tops of each heatsink with the company branding on them in the image on the box and also in every video about the cooler I can see online, but they are definitely on my heat sinks or in the box and I have no idea if that’s just for the U version or if they’re missing and they’re important.
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>>108498271
remove it and install it again and do it right this time
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>>108498271
You can safely take your cooler off to inspect the thermal pastes spread coverage, then put the cooler back on and screw it down again without risk of air bubbles forming.

There really is no room for any air to be trapped there, if there is, it's micro bubbles in the paste that will get "cooked" out within a few heat cycles

As for fixing fans to your cooler, just ensure that the fans are as close to the fins as possible, and are blowing air through them. You are worrying too much, the season of the year will affect your CPU temps, the clips are probably shown in the manual how to install them correctly.
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>>108497897
That's a pretty good deal, yeah.
Tempted to get one myself, but I think it'd be too big for my desk.
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do i need a 5090?
i dont want to upgrade computers for a long time and can afford it but all the söytubers say its not worth it (while they have one in their system of course)
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>>108498420
If you have a 4k monitor and aren't poor go for it.
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